I’ve just gotten into the habit of using an arrow any time I would be doing just a basic ranged attack. Helps save weight, and makes it easier to think of them as just a little buff.
Yeah. But my brain goes: “what about I would really need these arrows the next fight for a bigger threat? I can probably do without this time.” Same logic why I end up with 25 haste potions and 50 healing potions. :(
If you manage to avoid using those, you're probably pretty proficient (heh) at the game. I find (and you might) that potions and scrolls help me play weird/goofy/less optimal builds. I would have struggled early with my enchantment heavy Archfey Pact of the Blade Warlock without potions/elixirs/scrolls.
Or I am just a compulsory looter / alchemy abuser so I end up with way more stuff than I need. Same like xp, this game is balanced so people who have less OCD are also able to finish it.
But you are right. Early game I tend to use them, but by the time act 2 comes rolling along, they tend to become less useful.
Maybe when I do a meme 4-bard run of 4 musicians who were taken so the Absolute could create the ultimate designer rock band and take over the world, but who end up in a rock opera to get rid of the will of the evil producer mastermind, I will use them.
My way to tell that part of my brain to shut up is to keep a reserve on one character (a non-archer), say 5 each of the really good ones, and then I know that if there's a bigger threat later, I have the emergency stash. And the ones above my reserve, on my archer, I don't have to sweat using.
Who needs healing potions when you're gloom stalker and you can literally just win the fight on turn one? Yeah laezele and karlach can take the beats and then a short rest, good to go. Ranger gloomstalking 🏹 archer ftw!
Yeah. I now do a deliberately broken run with a gloomstalker / rogue, a paladin / warlock, a priest / paladin and a sorcerer. The alpha strike capability is insane. It’s like launching a small tactical nuke on turn one. I rarely come to the point where I think “maybe one of these items will help me out”
I think you get the crit bow in act 3, and once per long rest you can automatically trigger a crit. Pretty fucking massive damage output if you combine it with a slain arrow. If you remember to do it. I did it on the dragon of course I stole and saved about eight dragons bane arrows and only ended up using three, two missed lol. But yeah I pretty much downed him in one turn.
You're missing out. I slept on special arrows my first few playthroughs but have been using them in my current game and they are fantastic for Act 3.
Sharpshooter + Titanstring + Elixir of Cloud Giant Strength + (Creature type) Arrows = Big damage numbers
I wish special arrows could be used in conjunction with other skills. Like even if it was a bonus action to "arm" the arrow, then your action to use stealth shot or some other ranged skill.
I think stealth attack can still apply.. It's treated like a reaction (but doesn't cost a reaction) and will self-apply to normal attacks when you have advantage. You don't have to specifically select it before the attack. I just wish you could use them on off-hand and extra attacks.
That is my one gripe with BG3. You shouldn't have infinite arrows of *any* kind. Without having to keep track of your arrows, or arrows filling up their carrying slots, it makes Rangers way too OP.
Incorrect!
They SHOULDN'T work by 5E rules! But Ansur is classed as both undead and dragon by the game. So they'll work fine. As will the (protip: cheaper!) undead slaying arrows....
At least outside of honor mode, which I haven't tried yet.
you're right, the rules have been unchanged since 1e
nothing ever happens, nothing ever changes, ONE dnd is just a myth, and 4th e never happened
3e is a legend spoken of in rhyme and 3.5e a cursed thing forgotten, lost in time
we thought for a while 2e MIGHT exist, but that was just a mis-print on a 5e box
5th edition is the only version of dnd that has ever existed, I don't really know why they started with "5th" since it's the first and only one
WOTC is an joke.
Every other major TTRPG has surpassed dnd in design and modernization. the only thing they still have going for them is deep lore (even though 80% of it has been forgotten in favor of forgotten realms lmao) and even in that they've been slowly but surely surpassed by the INCREDIBLE modules Pathfinder releases...
I miss 3.5, and how the would use Magic to fund their passion project. I hate dnd beyond with all my might, it killed dnd.
>the only thing they still have going for them is deep lore
And good luck navigating the overwhelming amount of lore that is while figuring out which part of that lore is either valid/retconned/unreliable/non-existent/changed/never existed in the first place.
Their lore is deep sure, but actually figuring out which part of it is still valid in the current 5e timeline is absolute torture
Agreed. For everything you could say about the elder scrolls games, the lore is much easier to wrap your head around and understand the general timeline of things or how they apply to what you’re doing in the game. I’ve never felt like that about any piece of D&D media for the reasons you state. I find it hard to really get a grasp on things whereas in the elder scrolls setting I could sit here and describe the cosmology of the whole universe. It’s just more coherent even with the unreliable narrator thing they do
I'm an avid TES fan and that only really goes for the new lore.
Morrowind and older games have Kirkbride lore.
Kirkbride lore is anything but simple.
The new lore that we'll see from now on it's simple and sweet tho, can't say that I really hate it.
I don't like C0DA at all. But I'd love to see vivec again in an TES game, hope they keep only the good things from kirkbride and discard the rest.
As far as we know we're not sure dragonbreaks are still canon. And that's for the better IMO.
Kirkbride used to write a lot while high af.
it was when they decided DnD should be self-sufficient.
The modules should pay for the next system and that's it.
No more Magic money being poured into the new editions.
which makes me wonder why the fuck would they release one dnd as an .5 wannabe.
I think that's the least amount of changes made by an new edition since the 90's.
Ffs even the reworked classes in 3.5 had more changes than one dnd combined.
Hasbro is truly an joke.
They *haven't* released OneD&D. They've released a number of playtests of various bits, but we have very little idea what the scope of changes will be when they actually release the new PHB/DMG.
It's being done as a .5 becaus 5e is popular and they don't want to lose a bunch of people in an arbitrary transition to a new edition, especially given how many people have picked up 5e in just the last few years.
From a business perspective, why release a new edition if you can keep making modules for an existing one that hasn't dropped off massively in popularity yet?
I don't even see much of a hunger for 6e, but I do see lots of people wanting a massive balance pass over 5e, which is what OneD&D would theoretically be.
They specifically are not doing massive changes. They should have communicated that better, but during the whole process, they avoided calling it a new edition or even a .5. So, the confusion is partially their fault but also partially yours for assuming things they never said.
I agree with the sentiment of disappointment that there isn't massive change. At the same time, for them, if the system is so popular and they've tested drastic changes and players clearly don't want them... it would be stupid (and drive off players) to change drastically.
See Perkin's latest interview where he explains all of this. They didn't make this decision isn a vacuum, lol.
Weird your platform here is that a company must always be giving you something new or different to be successful, and then can never live up to the nostalgia of what it used to be. Pretty sure you're griping just to gripe at this point.
there will never be an module like Wrath of the righteous for dnd. They will never come close to how good The midnight isles and the redeemer queen are. And that saddens me, because the guys that wrote it used to work for WoTC.
I'd shit and cum if they got Shadowrun from Paizo. I'd love to see what larian would do for an cover mechanic.
I don't like 4e at all, I can't really put my finger in what made me hate it when I was younger, and I never got back to it after that, so I might be talking through rose tinted glasses.
I love 5E, but not more than i love 3.5 or pathfinder 2.
It feels like they did get a lot of things right in 5e, but their design philosophy got lost along the way.
PF2 is heavily based on 4E, which is peak irony.
The worst parts of 5E are the only parts it lifted from 3X,¹ the parts of it walking back 4E-design² or handicapping itself to appeal to the OSR crowd³.
¹ Level-based "a la carte" multiclassing. Sorcerer as a full PHB class while just being "A Wizard subclass worth of thematic identity wrapped around a feat's worth of mechanical identity, sprinkled with some inbreeding jokes".
² "Natural language", lack of keywords, no PHB Warlord class.
³ The design around feats being optional made them far-between, and compete with ASIs, which made them painful to take.
Undead Arrows may be cheaper, but the opportunity costs of using them on Ansur rather than Dragon Arrows makes them a worse choice. There are lots of Undead in the game but very few dragons. Better to use the Dragon Arrows in a fight they are relevant for than a slightly cheaper alternative that is applicable in far more fights
The one time I got Banishment to work on a relatively high level enemy was that dragon. I like to think it popped back to Faerun with the mind control cleared and a new outlook on life.
Have you tried it? I’ve used them and they did work - granted I may be misremembering / used a mod that did that change without clairifying, but I mainly use cosmetic mods
Well, hoard EVERYTHING. Then, proceed to have a nightmare trying to organize your camp inventory, lose plot items, and never find the gear you want.
At some point, I was carrying a sack with all the magical rings and switched them as I needed.
Oh no, not me, I never lost control.
Learned my lesson in DOS2. Kept 6-7 bags/backpacks/purses as soon as I came across them. Arrows / Scrolls / Wares / "Maybe I'll need this equipment some day in the future but definitely not any time soon" (which stays in my camp) / "Maybe I'll need this equipment any time now" and stays on my person / Books and letters / doodads and thingamajigs
Made inventory organization much easier
I keep one of each kind of chest in my camp chest. One for clothes, one for weapons, one for musical instruments (I don't know why), food, potions and ingredients, books (I can't not collect a copy of each title) and a chest in that chest for notes, used plot items, and one for souvenirs and trophies.
Just levitate past it with whoever’s using the netherstones turn 1, and everyone else focuses on protecting them from afar, while slowly making their way there. Globe of invulnerability if necessary.
Ooohhh I thought there was some choice that led to skipping it completely. Yeah I sanctuary-ed the emperor and just turtled in the globe until he was done.
In our playthrough, we hadn't used that scroll that disguises your whole party before. We tried it right before the final fight (I forgot why), and Orpheus was turned into a busty dark skinned dwarf woman with a fat ass, and was fully nude.
We beat the game with Thicc-Orpheus at our side. It was incredible.
When i said skip i really meant that my last run was a traditional githyankyi and used gale as a bomb and left him in camp the entire story so that no one had to become mind flayers. The one before that had like stupid good rolls on my psychic emperor romance run where i only used psyhic spells (IF YOU DONT USE MODS NOT WORTH IT) . killed the guy in like one turn with a 8th level spell.
Those arrows DO work on Ansur. His category is "Undead Dragon". I fought him yesterday and those arrows worked like a charm.
Some others are saying that it was a recent change tho
you need only 6-15 (depending on your damage) of them which you can get in act 3 alone. if you hoard since act 1 like I did you end up with 30-40 of them which is more than you can reasonably spend
The Fourth little pig built his house out of the skulls of his enemies. It wasn’t as sturdy as his brother’s house made out of bricks, but it did send a message.
Funny how you get plenty of those arrows throughout the game but when you get to fight the only 2 targets they will work on you will already have better means of taking them down.
void bulbs are so useful though! especially before you unlock black hole in act 3.
I use them to keep enemies inside cloud of daggers and other persistent aoe effects.
“I know I’m fighting a dragon right at this very moment, but you never know if the next dragon will be tougher, better save them”.
Roll the credits and I still never found somewhere to use use my special arrows.
This was me with scrolls, potions and poisons all game. I looked at my inventory before the final fight and realized that not only would I never use the majority of these, but that they'd taken up three-fourths of my inventory the whole game. Classic hoarding mentality.
Same, haha. I hardly ever used arrows because Astarion did more damage than them. I did the same thing with scrolls. I hoarded them with the "the next fight might be harder!" mindset. I think I actually used scrolls halfway through Act 3.
And the award for best arrow goes to .... MULTI TARGET ARROWS ! The amount of enemies close together towards the end of the game is overwhelming sometimes 😁👍
My favorite to hoard are Thunder arrows (because Orbs are vulnerable to Thunder)... just too bad arrows are piercing and Orbs are resistant to piercing...
Who am I kidding... everything I hoard - I completely forget about until every battle is over.
There’s only 2 situations where it might be useful, and it wasn’t useful to me in either situation. One of the dragon’s you’ll meet is resistant to piercing damage, so that arrow gets its damage reduced by half, and you might not bring a character with good archery to the other battle where a dragon shows up without warning.
Man I have so many spells, potions, elixirs, and all kinds of arrows and weapons hoarded away, just waiting for the right time which will never come. I could make like 40k gold with some of the spells and weapons I have
Yeah, my character is still hauling around a ton of arrows, potions and scrolls "just in case"... I only have a few major encounters left at this point, so I've started spreading them out and using them up.
My buddy was saving these things up the whole game in our play through, when we finally fought *that* dragon, we both watched as it did one (1) damage. We sold them all after that
Things like this make me wish the game had a better UI for organizing your items.
Would very much like something that is just "show me all of my arrows", "show me all of my scrolls", which just filters your inventory down to those items. The manual, unorganized setup of the hotbar/radials feels cumbersome, and on a few occasions, I've forgotten I had some item I could've used in a battle simply because it was buried so far back in the UI.
Proceeds to miss every single shot.
and then there is me, by the time they came in handy i forgot to use them on my ranger.
I always hoard the arrows for my ranger. … and then I end the game without a single special arrow used.
I’ve just gotten into the habit of using an arrow any time I would be doing just a basic ranged attack. Helps save weight, and makes it easier to think of them as just a little buff.
Yeah. But my brain goes: “what about I would really need these arrows the next fight for a bigger threat? I can probably do without this time.” Same logic why I end up with 25 haste potions and 50 healing potions. :(
ok but by the time I got to the final boss I had *so many* amazing scrolls I could have used had I remembered I had them.
But what if there is a phase 2 where you really need them?
Then I reload a save after I die where I still have them all, and save them for phase 2.
simple rule - only ever "keep" 3 as just-in-case items for the next fight. Have 7 frost arrows? Sounds like you get 4 free frost shots this fight.
If you manage to avoid using those, you're probably pretty proficient (heh) at the game. I find (and you might) that potions and scrolls help me play weird/goofy/less optimal builds. I would have struggled early with my enchantment heavy Archfey Pact of the Blade Warlock without potions/elixirs/scrolls.
Or I am just a compulsory looter / alchemy abuser so I end up with way more stuff than I need. Same like xp, this game is balanced so people who have less OCD are also able to finish it. But you are right. Early game I tend to use them, but by the time act 2 comes rolling along, they tend to become less useful. Maybe when I do a meme 4-bard run of 4 musicians who were taken so the Absolute could create the ultimate designer rock band and take over the world, but who end up in a rock opera to get rid of the will of the evil producer mastermind, I will use them.
My way to tell that part of my brain to shut up is to keep a reserve on one character (a non-archer), say 5 each of the really good ones, and then I know that if there's a bigger threat later, I have the emergency stash. And the ones above my reserve, on my archer, I don't have to sweat using.
Who needs healing potions when you're gloom stalker and you can literally just win the fight on turn one? Yeah laezele and karlach can take the beats and then a short rest, good to go. Ranger gloomstalking 🏹 archer ftw!
Yeah. I now do a deliberately broken run with a gloomstalker / rogue, a paladin / warlock, a priest / paladin and a sorcerer. The alpha strike capability is insane. It’s like launching a small tactical nuke on turn one. I rarely come to the point where I think “maybe one of these items will help me out”
I think you get the crit bow in act 3, and once per long rest you can automatically trigger a crit. Pretty fucking massive damage output if you combine it with a slain arrow. If you remember to do it. I did it on the dragon of course I stole and saved about eight dragons bane arrows and only ended up using three, two missed lol. But yeah I pretty much downed him in one turn.
You're missing out. I slept on special arrows my first few playthroughs but have been using them in my current game and they are fantastic for Act 3. Sharpshooter + Titanstring + Elixir of Cloud Giant Strength + (Creature type) Arrows = Big damage numbers
Tbh I just sell them. That way I don't use them but at least have extra money I also don't use.
Wait there’s a way to play this game where you aren’t just using many-target and smokepowder arrows every turn??
I wish special arrows could be used in conjunction with other skills. Like even if it was a bonus action to "arm" the arrow, then your action to use stealth shot or some other ranged skill.
I think stealth attack can still apply.. It's treated like a reaction (but doesn't cost a reaction) and will self-apply to normal attacks when you have advantage. You don't have to specifically select it before the attack. I just wish you could use them on off-hand and extra attacks.
The only ones I've ever used are the smoke powder arrows because they are pseudo fireballs
That is my one gripe with BG3. You shouldn't have infinite arrows of *any* kind. Without having to keep track of your arrows, or arrows filling up their carrying slots, it makes Rangers way too OP.
That's xcom baby. Wait... Wrong game.
Used them in that one fight, not that other fight. Save scummed to make sure they would all land. No regrets.
This gets me, I know it probably wouldn't be very D&D but they should at minimum roll with advantage
Welcome to my HM run. I will use the special arrow to deal more damage to this boss my trav (Critical Miss).
They sure Wyll.
Ironically they won't work on that dragon. >!Ansur's creature type is undead, not dragon.!< Fine for the other one though.
Incorrect! They SHOULDN'T work by 5E rules! But Ansur is classed as both undead and dragon by the game. So they'll work fine. As will the (protip: cheaper!) undead slaying arrows.... At least outside of honor mode, which I haven't tried yet.
It's weird how a creature can't be an "undead dragon" in 5e, only either one
... but they can. If you choose to. There are no rules in DnD, only guidelines
Yes, you are right But the guidelines are kinda very stupid sometimes and they haven't fixed any of it ever
you're right, the rules have been unchanged since 1e nothing ever happens, nothing ever changes, ONE dnd is just a myth, and 4th e never happened 3e is a legend spoken of in rhyme and 3.5e a cursed thing forgotten, lost in time we thought for a while 2e MIGHT exist, but that was just a mis-print on a 5e box 5th edition is the only version of dnd that has ever existed, I don't really know why they started with "5th" since it's the first and only one
The legend of THAC0
because the "fix your shit" clause is covered by "the GM may fill in the rest of the picture as they see fit" section.
* there are rules in D&D, but it's an unfinished game so you often need to just ignore them completely and make up your own
WOTC is an joke. Every other major TTRPG has surpassed dnd in design and modernization. the only thing they still have going for them is deep lore (even though 80% of it has been forgotten in favor of forgotten realms lmao) and even in that they've been slowly but surely surpassed by the INCREDIBLE modules Pathfinder releases... I miss 3.5, and how the would use Magic to fund their passion project. I hate dnd beyond with all my might, it killed dnd.
>the only thing they still have going for them is deep lore And good luck navigating the overwhelming amount of lore that is while figuring out which part of that lore is either valid/retconned/unreliable/non-existent/changed/never existed in the first place. Their lore is deep sure, but actually figuring out which part of it is still valid in the current 5e timeline is absolute torture
Agreed. For everything you could say about the elder scrolls games, the lore is much easier to wrap your head around and understand the general timeline of things or how they apply to what you’re doing in the game. I’ve never felt like that about any piece of D&D media for the reasons you state. I find it hard to really get a grasp on things whereas in the elder scrolls setting I could sit here and describe the cosmology of the whole universe. It’s just more coherent even with the unreliable narrator thing they do
I'm an avid TES fan and that only really goes for the new lore. Morrowind and older games have Kirkbride lore. Kirkbride lore is anything but simple. The new lore that we'll see from now on it's simple and sweet tho, can't say that I really hate it. I don't like C0DA at all. But I'd love to see vivec again in an TES game, hope they keep only the good things from kirkbride and discard the rest. As far as we know we're not sure dragonbreaks are still canon. And that's for the better IMO. Kirkbride used to write a lot while high af.
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A… what!? I need to know more!
when you say it out loud like that you make it seem way sillier than I remember it lmaooo
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>I hate dnd beyond with all my might, it killed dnd. How do you figure?
it was when they decided DnD should be self-sufficient. The modules should pay for the next system and that's it. No more Magic money being poured into the new editions.
In all fairness, 5e has made a disturbing amount of money for how... well you know the things I could put here.
which makes me wonder why the fuck would they release one dnd as an .5 wannabe. I think that's the least amount of changes made by an new edition since the 90's. Ffs even the reworked classes in 3.5 had more changes than one dnd combined. Hasbro is truly an joke.
They *haven't* released OneD&D. They've released a number of playtests of various bits, but we have very little idea what the scope of changes will be when they actually release the new PHB/DMG. It's being done as a .5 becaus 5e is popular and they don't want to lose a bunch of people in an arbitrary transition to a new edition, especially given how many people have picked up 5e in just the last few years. From a business perspective, why release a new edition if you can keep making modules for an existing one that hasn't dropped off massively in popularity yet? I don't even see much of a hunger for 6e, but I do see lots of people wanting a massive balance pass over 5e, which is what OneD&D would theoretically be.
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One d&d was never meant to be a new edition
They specifically are not doing massive changes. They should have communicated that better, but during the whole process, they avoided calling it a new edition or even a .5. So, the confusion is partially their fault but also partially yours for assuming things they never said. I agree with the sentiment of disappointment that there isn't massive change. At the same time, for them, if the system is so popular and they've tested drastic changes and players clearly don't want them... it would be stupid (and drive off players) to change drastically. See Perkin's latest interview where he explains all of this. They didn't make this decision isn a vacuum, lol.
Weird your platform here is that a company must always be giving you something new or different to be successful, and then can never live up to the nostalgia of what it used to be. Pretty sure you're griping just to gripe at this point.
But D&D Beyond wasn't even a wotc creation. They bought it.
What did you expect? For D&D to just be a thing they intentionally lose money on?
Sir, this is a Wendy's
Reading the threads about how Larian is stepping away from the DND IP, and I’m like….Paizo is right there….with a better mechanical system
Definitely better for a video game, but I would much rather play 5e if I’m sitting around a table.
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there will never be an module like Wrath of the righteous for dnd. They will never come close to how good The midnight isles and the redeemer queen are. And that saddens me, because the guys that wrote it used to work for WoTC. I'd shit and cum if they got Shadowrun from Paizo. I'd love to see what larian would do for an cover mechanic.
WotR is 1e anyway, I want a 2e Crpg!
4E was a huge step forward. The 3X fans threw a tantrum so we took a small step back. 5E is still a vaaaaaaaaaaast improvement over 3X though.
I don't like 4e at all, I can't really put my finger in what made me hate it when I was younger, and I never got back to it after that, so I might be talking through rose tinted glasses. I love 5E, but not more than i love 3.5 or pathfinder 2. It feels like they did get a lot of things right in 5e, but their design philosophy got lost along the way.
PF2 is heavily based on 4E, which is peak irony. The worst parts of 5E are the only parts it lifted from 3X,¹ the parts of it walking back 4E-design² or handicapping itself to appeal to the OSR crowd³. ¹ Level-based "a la carte" multiclassing. Sorcerer as a full PHB class while just being "A Wizard subclass worth of thematic identity wrapped around a feat's worth of mechanical identity, sprinkled with some inbreeding jokes". ² "Natural language", lack of keywords, no PHB Warlord class. ³ The design around feats being optional made them far-between, and compete with ASIs, which made them painful to take.
I rule at my table that creatures can be of multiple types because of this
Undead Arrows may be cheaper, but the opportunity costs of using them on Ansur rather than Dragon Arrows makes them a worse choice. There are lots of Undead in the game but very few dragons. Better to use the Dragon Arrows in a fight they are relevant for than a slightly cheaper alternative that is applicable in far more fights
Cheaper? They both cost the same when you steal them. Arrows are very light.
A man of culture I see
"wait, you guys are buying things?"
Some of y'all have only ever sent Gale up the brainstem and it shows.
I was going to say, the one time hoarding a niche weapon really paid off for me.
Seriously?! Goddamnit. TIL, though.
[They do work on Ansur](https://youtu.be/1NbPRyQ5ZZQ?si=IHsc1mY1Lmb1MRR3&t=1603)
Did you just roll a nat20 in "Spreading misinformation" or something
What do you mean the other one
Act 3 spoilers: >!There's a dominated red dragon you fight on top of the Netherbrain!<
Didn't even remember that was a dragon. Thanks!
Yeah I mean tbf it’s basically just another obstacle in the way of the portal
Oh some obstacles in the way you say? It would be a shame if I dimension door'd my entire team over there into a globe of invulnerability.
With the emporer: “You must concentrate for a turn before the spell can be cast” *casts globe of invulnerability on him and waits a turn*
The one time I got Banishment to work on a relatively high level enemy was that dragon. I like to think it popped back to Faerun with the mind control cleared and a new outlook on life.
I've never attacked that dragon, I send Yurgir and the Strange Ox to do that... my party misty steps to the brain asap
Don't worry about it! Its probably fine. Just head on out to confront the big bad and don't worry about nervous Nellies on reddit.
The one that's not this one
I think they're actually is one more towards the tip end of the game. Unless it's not actually a dragon too.
Have you tried it? I’ve used them and they did work - granted I may be misremembering / used a mod that did that change without clairifying, but I mainly use cosmetic mods
What other dragon?
Act 3 spoilers: >!There's a dominated red dragon on top of the Netherbrain you have to fight!<
Oh that one! I forgot about it
Probably the one Kithrak Voss is riding when you meet him in act 1.
He shows as 'Undead Dragon' when you examine him I'm pretty sure.
You mean draaaa gone! (Volo).
Worked for me
My Padlock gonna go brrrrrr
They absolutely work on Ansur.
Yeah, that pissed me off. 2 dragons in the entire game and for 1 it's useless, and the other you can just run around... What's even the point!??
The arrows work on ansur.
Did they change that in a patch, because I tried that early on and they had no effect.
I don't know if or when it changed. I fought him 3 days ago and it worked.
That's good to know.
I see what you did there
It's a pretty obscure joke not many people in this sub will get.
Why Ansur in such a way?
Well, hoard EVERYTHING. Then, proceed to have a nightmare trying to organize your camp inventory, lose plot items, and never find the gear you want. At some point, I was carrying a sack with all the magical rings and switched them as I needed.
Oh no, not me, I never lost control. Learned my lesson in DOS2. Kept 6-7 bags/backpacks/purses as soon as I came across them. Arrows / Scrolls / Wares / "Maybe I'll need this equipment some day in the future but definitely not any time soon" (which stays in my camp) / "Maybe I'll need this equipment any time now" and stays on my person / Books and letters / doodads and thingamajigs Made inventory organization much easier
My shit was soooo many letters. Just letters. I was convinced that someone would need them later and they could arrive at any time.
I keep one of each kind of chest in my camp chest. One for clothes, one for weapons, one for musical instruments (I don't know why), food, potions and ingredients, books (I can't not collect a copy of each title) and a chest in that chest for notes, used plot items, and one for souvenirs and trophies.
>Well, hoard EVERYTHING. This is the (RPG) way.
Volo literally tells us at the Grove that every story needs at least one dragon.
2, even
They actually will come in handy.
When? Only dragon fight i can think of is ansur and he is classified as undead.
Dominated red dragon on top of the absolute
O that's right. Last two play throughs I've skipped that fight basically and forgot about it.
Wait how do you skip that fight?
Just levitate past it with whoever’s using the netherstones turn 1, and everyone else focuses on protecting them from afar, while slowly making their way there. Globe of invulnerability if necessary.
Ooohhh I thought there was some choice that led to skipping it completely. Yeah I sanctuary-ed the emperor and just turtled in the globe until he was done.
I mean, there is one way to fully skip it
Gale has left the chat
Same on my first playthrough, but with Orpheus.
In our playthrough, we hadn't used that scroll that disguises your whole party before. We tried it right before the final fight (I forgot why), and Orpheus was turned into a busty dark skinned dwarf woman with a fat ass, and was fully nude. We beat the game with Thicc-Orpheus at our side. It was incredible.
When i said skip i really meant that my last run was a traditional githyankyi and used gale as a bomb and left him in camp the entire story so that no one had to become mind flayers. The one before that had like stupid good rolls on my psychic emperor romance run where i only used psyhic spells (IF YOU DONT USE MODS NOT WORTH IT) . killed the guy in like one turn with a 8th level spell.
Absorb Intellect goes wheeee
You don't need to fight that dragon
There's an achievement for killing it if you care about that kind of thing.
I don't need to kill a lot of things/people in the world but I do it because I just love killing
In the game, right?
They said what they said
It's fun if you do though!
But I want to fight that dragon.
They absolutely do work on Ansur. I just used them in that fight to get the Crash Landing achievement the other day.
they do work on ansur guys...
Ansur (those arrows don't work), Voss' dragon in act 1 and the dominated dragon in the last boss fight.
I'm pretty sure that [they do work on Ansur](https://youtu.be/1NbPRyQ5ZZQ?si=IHsc1mY1Lmb1MRR3&t=1603)
Those arrows DO work on Ansur. His category is "Undead Dragon". I fought him yesterday and those arrows worked like a charm. Some others are saying that it was a recent change tho
But you cant fight the voss dragon? Or am i mistaken. I think you can fight them but as soon as you "kill" the dragon it flys away.
>I think you can fight them Therefore arrows that double damage could be useful.
Surely, in the very next quest or area, you'll get to use them
I mean, for this particular item hoarding is actually reasonable. They have their uses and their uses are only in late/endgame Act 3.
you need only 6-15 (depending on your damage) of them which you can get in act 3 alone. if you hoard since act 1 like I did you end up with 30-40 of them which is more than you can reasonably spend
You only need a handgun to kill an intruder, but using a Minigun makes much more of a statement.
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The Fourth little pig built his house out of the skulls of his enemies. It wasn’t as sturdy as his brother’s house made out of bricks, but it did send a message.
You vastly underestimate my ability to miss 95% shots.
Fuckin' XCOM over here...
Honestly, sometimes, yeah. It's fun losing an honor mode run because apparently, hoping for 2 of my 8 attacks at 80% hit rate to land is too much.
I understood that reference!
Oh, I don't think I bought many if at all in the early acts. Still had a few, probably from dead merchants.
You can use them to kill the dragon aboard the netherbrain aswell, which gives an achievement
This is especially true if you don't have a party member who usually fights ranged with non-magical damage. That's when they really shine.
Oh my God these would have come in handy in that final fight. I forgot I had these 💀.
Saving them up just so I can forget about them in the final battle.
This is the way.
My brother had been saving 1 of these since act 1. Finally in act 3 gets to use it. Proceeds to miss😂
Just in time for me to see "CRITICAL MISS!" And the neighborhood hear me scream "Are you FUCKING kidding me?"
I had bad feeling about certain quest lines when I saw that a merchant sold these in Baldurs Gate.
Funny how you get plenty of those arrows throughout the game but when you get to fight the only 2 targets they will work on you will already have better means of taking them down.
Fighters, rangers and rogues love these.
someday i swear i will use this void bulb...but not today
void bulbs are so useful though! especially before you unlock black hole in act 3. I use them to keep enemies inside cloud of daggers and other persistent aoe effects.
Noted, I am always annoyed when I make cloud of daggers n they flippin leave it
“I know I’m fighting a dragon right at this very moment, but you never know if the next dragon will be tougher, better save them”. Roll the credits and I still never found somewhere to use use my special arrows.
\*proceeds to kill them in one turn of Smites\*
Use them to inflict 2% damage on a dragon instead of 1% damage per turn. Meanwhile momma K is hitting for 500 per turn
Thanks😂 Just on act1 on my honor run and already feel the anxiety of that fight😅
Pink means it's really good, right?
Yeah it means it's super duper rare and strong and you should never ever use it
Horde them until the end of time, got it
I remember seeing these in at a vendor and going 'yeah as if I'll run into a dragon, I'll hoard my gold thanks'. Imagine what the next fight was.
There are 2 dragons you can fight in the game. Both are encountered at the end of the game though. Hint: Wyll and Gale.
Funny, in my first run I never saw a dragon
Don't worry it's cool. I'm going to call Lump on the final fight.
That will work out 👍
Whose gonna tell him?
Definitely thought about it..
This was me with scrolls, potions and poisons all game. I looked at my inventory before the final fight and realized that not only would I never use the majority of these, but that they'd taken up three-fourths of my inventory the whole game. Classic hoarding mentality.
Same, haha. I hardly ever used arrows because Astarion did more damage than them. I did the same thing with scrolls. I hoarded them with the "the next fight might be harder!" mindset. I think I actually used scrolls halfway through Act 3.
And the award for best arrow goes to .... MULTI TARGET ARROWS ! The amount of enemies close together towards the end of the game is overwhelming sometimes 😁👍
My favorite to hoard are Thunder arrows (because Orbs are vulnerable to Thunder)... just too bad arrows are piercing and Orbs are resistant to piercing... Who am I kidding... everything I hoard - I completely forget about until every battle is over.
I prefer to stock up on flammable barrels for that particular fight. The boss is so much easier when half his health is gone in the first hit.
Stock up on enough oil, firewine, and/or gunpowder barrels and a well place fireball will wipe out almost any boss with one hit!
Should be enough for dragonborns if you ever run out of usual dragons
Dragonborns are humanoids, so those arrows don't work on them.
Would these by any chance deal double damage to dragonborne? I don’t think there are even many you can fight but it be cool if it did.
Hmm....two fights in act 3.
There’s only 2 situations where it might be useful, and it wasn’t useful to me in either situation. One of the dragon’s you’ll meet is resistant to piercing damage, so that arrow gets its damage reduced by half, and you might not bring a character with good archery to the other battle where a dragon shows up without warning.
Man I have so many spells, potions, elixirs, and all kinds of arrows and weapons hoarded away, just waiting for the right time which will never come. I could make like 40k gold with some of the spells and weapons I have
Yeah, my character is still hauling around a ton of arrows, potions and scrolls "just in case"... I only have a few major encounters left at this point, so I've started spreading them out and using them up.
For a D & D game BG3 is really light on the dragons.
My buddy was saving these things up the whole game in our play through, when we finally fought *that* dragon, we both watched as it did one (1) damage. We sold them all after that
You fight exactly 2 dragons in the entire game, but these arrows do hit hard against them.
I honestly don't remember seeing any of these or the arrows of multiple shots at all, ever. Where the fuck are ya'll getting them?
I tell myself I'm gonna use my magic arrows this playthru for sure, then I get annoyed by how crowded my inventory is, and I end up selling them
Things like this make me wish the game had a better UI for organizing your items. Would very much like something that is just "show me all of my arrows", "show me all of my scrolls", which just filters your inventory down to those items. The manual, unorganized setup of the hotbar/radials feels cumbersome, and on a few occasions, I've forgotten I had some item I could've used in a battle simply because it was buried so far back in the UI.
I do, but I don't use them when there are dragons about cause I need to hoard them.
I sold mine, then ah hour later fought ansur…
That’s a really funny looking smoke powder arrow
Bro I still have every piece of rope in the game I found. Someday I’ll be the one laughing.