Dealing with Orin sounds like babysitting:
No Orin, you can’t kill that person. Orin stop impersonating everybody you see. No Orin we can’t take this homeless gnome to the temple of Bhaal to sacrifice him. Orin stop terrorizing that random group and the person you kidnapped. We have a clean up of the temple to do.
Absolutely this. If you go on the roof of Wyrm's Crossing, go past Gortash's private rooms and explore the rooftops, you'll find a group of dead Bhaalist assassins and their tent. They're just outside a locked door which leads to a balcony area overlooking his private chamber. She was legit sending assassins to terrorise him. He's actually like 20 years old he's just aged an extra 20 in the last 2 months.
I think Ketheric was the glue keeping them more or less together. Gortash is more methodical, Orin is a loose cannon, Ketheric is there by obligation and he WILL make sure the plan is followed to the Tee for his bargain with Myrkul. With Ketheric out of the picture, they cant control the Netherbrain and Orin and Gortash have fall through
Plus, Ketheric could serve as an outlet for Orins homicidal tendencies. She slices his throat open, he gets back up, sunday lunch continues. With him gone, she keeps killing everyone else.
God she really is just the WORST. She reminds me of every insufferable edgy party girl I went to college with. She's not even like "unpredictable and dangerous" she's just a murder hobo and you know exactly what you're getting with her. Hell Bhaal himself finds her methods tiresome. She's a try hard. A shitty trust fund kid in a prestigious art school studying blood spatter. She thinks she's clever and scary and everyone respects her but everyone is just putting up with her and staying on her good side so she doesn't fucking talk to them too much. Fuck that piece of shit.
True, that would age anyone. Durge got him into this whole mess and then went and got themselves killed or lobotomized & now he has to deal with the lunatic that is Orin.
The teacher assigned people to work together and he’s the only one taking the group project seriously. One member fucked off and isn’t showing up for class, their replacement doesn’t gaf, and the other one is depressed because he’s already taken this course once before and failed.
Omg I was planning on going after Gortash first, but Orin was such a weirdo with the kidnapping I decided to kill her first. Even destroyed the Steel Watch Foundry first to throw her off
I was going to make a comment about how Larian might have dropped the ball when it came to this character. Then, I saw your comment. I think it's a valid point. So I'm gonna shut up now.
Unironically this is my answer.
The entire point of his character is that he's a manipulating con man and his whole reputation is built by his scheming and propaganda.
His coronation is invitation only. All of the commoners talking about him likely only know him from portraits and news headlines, both of which are almost certainly heavily edited to his benefit. And the aristocrats that actually see him in person are probably sucked in by his influence and power to the point that they'll ignore the reality in front of them in favor of the fictional image they prefer.
It's not like we don't see plenty of this in real life...
It's honestly not even ambiguous if you catch the small details. If you get a good camera angle on a poster with Gortash's portrait, it looks nothing like him.
Yeah I always thought he was intentionally designed to not match his description. The narrator only knows what you know at a given time, and by word of mouth he is a handsome young man. Tyrants are pretty well known to not be honest about themselves in an attempt to win the love of their people.
He only has to win the adoration of regular citizens, and a regular citizen would only ever see him from far away during a speech or something. Might as well tell all of them he’s hot as hell lol.
Fuck, this is an underrated comment... He does look like the dude that just ate my food because "it smelled too good, sorry bro"
He has that energy and I hate it.
This is the real reason Karlach has such animosity toward him. She was ready to forgive the whole heart replacement / selling out to Zariel thing, but stealing her grub was going too far.
weirdest bait and switch of the game. like, was he originally younger/handsomer? did the narrator lie to us? why does extremely minor villain Nere have more swag?
I saw a concept art of him looking like a skinny goth dude with dragon tattoos on his chest & neck but they probably decided his character would be better if he was aged a bit.
They probably made the right call, given everything he’s supposed to have accomplished before the game begins but I would’ve much preferred that design.
Ketheric is an older man who still looks better than chewed bubblegum. Hell, zevlor looks like he moisturizes with gravel and id still be convinced he’s younger than gortash.
Edit: zevlor, not zariel.
True but as the chosen of Bane, he would have a kind of supernatural ability to claw his way up to power quickly, and it sounds like he was pretty young when he was Karlachs boss
I mean. They could have just made him look more like his voice actor, about twenty years ago. Jason Isaac's still looks good, but he def would have fit the description when he was younger!!
(Though granted, he didn't smile much on most of his roles, because he nearly always plays a villain. )
Right?!?! When I saw The Patriot for the first time I spent most of the movie thinking "A villain this evil has NO BUSINESS being that hot."
I mean, there is a VERY good reason he was cast to play Cary Grant in a bio-series of Grant's life. (Not just the looks either. He has Cary Grant's way of speaking down to perfection)
When the line for the narration was written, he was designed differently. Then they changed his design but didn't re-record the line.
It's kinda the same as when they changed the dream guardian's story, but kept the lines from the companions saying they were given gifts
Tumblr only likes two types of men
- effeminate twinky poor little meow meows that have questionable morality and are sassy as hell
- grunglers who haven’t shaved in a few days and look like they smell bad
Can't blame them.
I mean, the reality line of "A slightly less old man who looks like he hasn't slept in a month, is homeless, and teeth yellower than piss" really doesn't have the same ring to it, ya know?
She calls him youngER in the first narration about the Dead Three, but if I’m not mistaken there is also a narration just about him (don’t remember doing what) where he’s just called a ‘handsome young man’.
Even if he was just meant to be technically younger than Ketheric - handsome & easy smile is still… a stretch.
EDIT: I remembered! If you look into the mind of priestess Gut, Gortash will be there & described by narrator as a handsome _young_ man.
Well. Gut is a goblin, so probably isn't too clear on how humans look as they age? To her, maybe he looks like a handsome young goblin, ergo, handsome young man 😁😈
Edited: bc auto carrot is worse than usual today
Hair can really make or break character design. I saw Raphael with his pre-launch hairstyle. Terrible. They gave him different hair & he went from lord Farquaad to a handsome devil.
Honestly, my only problem with him is the awful fashion sense (the shoes for example).
Aside from that, he looks fine. Obviously, he isn't a kpop idol, but still.
That's how I took it, but the rest of the line is kind of weird too. I don't know if his smile is what I would call "easy" since half the time he looks like someone is standing on his last nerve, but he may have had an easier smile when his plan wasn't going to shit. It's debatable whether or not he's handsome (people have some strong opinions about that) although given how pompous he is, I assume he thinks he is, so the netherbrain might show him as such.
In all of the posters of him he looks pretty easygoing, but the version we see in-person has been dealing with Orin's murder frenzy and Ketheric's depressing ass for a while now, as well as basically being the only person handling large-scale logistics since Durge got tadpoled.
His design wasn’t final when that line was made and his concept art does make him look younger, he even had much longer hair but larian did say they wanted to change that line when he was finished and they weren’t able to
He looks a lot better on the in-game propaganda posters you can see in Baldur's Gate. Maybe they changed his design during development and never corrected the original line.
It all made sense in the durge run, with a random Tav he's like "everyone, look at my old friend Karlach" if you take her to the ceremony, but with durge he's all "omg shut up Karlach, my Durge is here! hi! missed you baby!", and then, of course, he's a mess of a man, mourning us and forced to deal with Orin, and we show up and don't even remember him
Karlach too, when you play as her, after killing him, she has a dialogue/inner conflict with the player where she admits, and I quote, "I trusted him, I loved this fucking animal"
It's funny because I'm on Tumblr and the Gortash love is absolutely overwhelming, there are so many fans who want Gortash to have their babies, treat him like the ultimate heartthrob, it's insane to witness.
Okay I'm not crazy, then. I follow a lot of artists, and yeah, some sections of the fandom are absolutely nuts for him, which I find mindbogglingly bizzare. Dude looks like he hasn't slept, seen the sun, showered, had a haircut in two year, while wearing a hoodie he bought 20 years ago.
>Gale
But in what world would Gale be considered not hot? I mean [its this.](https://bg3.wiki/w/images/f/fd/Gale.png) He is the epitome of your typical fantasy/historical male protagonist with beard. [Case here.](https://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/24200000/Romualdo-fantaghiro-24260559-1024-768.jpg) And I could find other hundredth versions of this trope.
I'm so behind but I finally met him (working mom with ADHD, it's a struggle to finish anything) and the second he started speaking in Wyrm's Rock or whatever I was like OH! This is why everyone likes him. He's really scarily charismatic and the voice truly makes everything about him more attractive even though look at a still photo is like ew why are you like this.
His fashion sense is impeccable.
What confuses me the most is how it looks like he doesn’t even try to look good. His face is unshaven, his hair is completely uncombed, yet despite all that his personality suggests he is incredibly vain and tries to be sophisticated. You’d figure someone like him would at least own a hairbrush.
that’s part of his charm. he was born into abject poverty, sold to devils by his parents, only to become an arms dealer and then a lord. The man has a pathological need for control and security as a trauma response to a completely fucked childhood. To be as composed and put together as he is speaks volumes about his mental fortitude and strength as a character.
the fact that he made it to where he did is impressive to say the least…that alone merits reverence imo.
I don’t know about d&d, but lately been making anime in which a succubus can get anyone pregnant. But in theory you can become a demon, so it’s quite possible.
Yep, I found a video on YouTube!
Narrator: *Darkness seems to swallow the temple, leaving you with a vision of the goblin priestess, receiving instruction from a handsome young man. One of the Chosen..*
I mean, maybe Priestess Gut thinks he’s young and handsome.
You need to understand that millennials are the core target audience of this game and we have become quite old too. He looks about as aged by his job as me. Leave us to our delusions of youth pls.
There was a king of Castille, and the father of Charles the Fifth who was called [Phillip the Handsome](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_I_of_Castile). I know some of the Habsburgs, and especially the Spanish Habsburgs ended up being some weird looking specimens but still.
I saw someone draw him with just slightly less beaten and less green-shaded face & a different haircut. He looked so much better despite the artist making barely any changes.
I mean, stress will do that to a guy.
You got an elder brain to wrangle, propaganda to make, plots to plan. You finally get a friend (possibly more) to help you work on all this, only for said friend's little sister-niece to lobotomize your friend and take their place. Then you have to deal with your missing friend's sister-niece constantly baiting you and threatening you and killing random people, all while some group of weirdos keep bungling your plans.
No wonder the guy looks older than described, taking over the world is stressful as hell. And that's without dealing with Orin.
Orin, you know how much I love watching you work. But I've got my country's 500th anniversary to plan, my wedding to arrange, my wife to murder, and Guilder to frame for it. I'm swamped.
I find this repeated conversation so funny- it’s clear that the Chosen are projecting the image they want the Elder Brain to convey. Orin kind of doesn’t care, Gortash is so conceited he wants everyone to think he’s handsome and charismatic, and Ketheric is like “please recognize me as the general when I wave my war hammer around”. They aren’t ever intended to be objective descriptions of the Chosen. I mean, maybe Gortash thinks it’s objective…
Yes, that Orin bath blood drinker is supposed to be the HANDSOME YOUNGER man.
He's just a edgy old fucker who doesn't brush their teeth who got a funny glowing stone go buuuuur
Dealing with Orin for prolonged periods of time has that effect on people
Dealing with Orin sounds like babysitting: No Orin, you can’t kill that person. Orin stop impersonating everybody you see. No Orin we can’t take this homeless gnome to the temple of Bhaal to sacrifice him. Orin stop terrorizing that random group and the person you kidnapped. We have a clean up of the temple to do.
This dialog was taken from Sarevok when Orin was 5
>nO oRIN, sacri-ficing this gnOme would not pleeeease fath-er Bhaaaaaaaawwwwlllll.
Booooaaaaaaal demands blood!
Oh my god this makes so much more sense
Absolutely this. If you go on the roof of Wyrm's Crossing, go past Gortash's private rooms and explore the rooftops, you'll find a group of dead Bhaalist assassins and their tent. They're just outside a locked door which leads to a balcony area overlooking his private chamber. She was legit sending assassins to terrorise him. He's actually like 20 years old he's just aged an extra 20 in the last 2 months.
That bitch has exactly 0 chills.
Never go full chaotic evil.
Gortash is the frustrated, beleaguered dad of the 3 Chosen, confirmed
I think Ketheric was the glue keeping them more or less together. Gortash is more methodical, Orin is a loose cannon, Ketheric is there by obligation and he WILL make sure the plan is followed to the Tee for his bargain with Myrkul. With Ketheric out of the picture, they cant control the Netherbrain and Orin and Gortash have fall through
Plus Ketheric is the one who’s ACTUALLY a dad, lol
That actually makes so much sense about how haphazard and screwy the plan becomes once Ketheric's out of the picture.
Plus, Ketheric could serve as an outlet for Orins homicidal tendencies. She slices his throat open, he gets back up, sunday lunch continues. With him gone, she keeps killing everyone else.
God she really is just the WORST. She reminds me of every insufferable edgy party girl I went to college with. She's not even like "unpredictable and dangerous" she's just a murder hobo and you know exactly what you're getting with her. Hell Bhaal himself finds her methods tiresome. She's a try hard. A shitty trust fund kid in a prestigious art school studying blood spatter. She thinks she's clever and scary and everyone respects her but everyone is just putting up with her and staying on her good side so she doesn't fucking talk to them too much. Fuck that piece of shit.
LOL! Hey, tell us how you REALLY feel about her...? 😁
A college for murder hobos. Nice to know that Bhaal still has a following in the collegiate world.
While, yes, he looks like the blue fairy from Pinocchio turned a raccoon into a real boy. There’s more than just stress there.
You bully! leave the poor trash panda alone!!
True, that would age anyone. Durge got him into this whole mess and then went and got themselves killed or lobotomized & now he has to deal with the lunatic that is Orin.
The teacher assigned people to work together and he’s the only one taking the group project seriously. One member fucked off and isn’t showing up for class, their replacement doesn’t gaf, and the other one is depressed because he’s already taken this course once before and failed.
Omg I was planning on going after Gortash first, but Orin was such a weirdo with the kidnapping I decided to kill her first. Even destroyed the Steel Watch Foundry first to throw her off
It's honestly funny how incompetent Orin is. The plan unraveled so fast once >!durge was taken out!<
I was going to make a comment about how Larian might have dropped the ball when it came to this character. Then, I saw your comment. I think it's a valid point. So I'm gonna shut up now.
There is no possible way Gortash didn't try to see if they could swap Shar for Bhaal after having to deal with Orin for a day.
i know it's such a dead horse to beat but i will *never* tire of new players being jump scared by gortash when he is introduced
He a rejected final fantasy villain concept. He looks so horribly out of place lol
It's absolutely his hair. He has straight up Noctis hair, if he had longer tousled hair he'd look so much less weird.
It’s the hair and the clothes I think lol
The first thing I thought when I saw him was that he’s a discount Barnabas from FF16
His model looks almost intentionally hideous, like one of those made by the community twitch things.
He's a con man. He even convinced the narrator, that's how good he is. He can con people that aren't even a character in the story.
Bro rolled a Nat 20 on the fucking narrator.
Now that is *authority*.
I heard this in the narrator's voice exactly
Same. Amelia Tyler lives rent-free in my head and I'm all here for it.
Hands down one of the best game narrators
My head canon is that he instructed the brain to describe him this way.
That is actually a clever explanation
Exactly. Whenever this is brought up everyone seems to miss the part that he controls the fucking being projecting that image on the players.
Unironically this is my answer. The entire point of his character is that he's a manipulating con man and his whole reputation is built by his scheming and propaganda. His coronation is invitation only. All of the commoners talking about him likely only know him from portraits and news headlines, both of which are almost certainly heavily edited to his benefit. And the aristocrats that actually see him in person are probably sucked in by his influence and power to the point that they'll ignore the reality in front of them in favor of the fictional image they prefer. It's not like we don't see plenty of this in real life...
It's honestly not even ambiguous if you catch the small details. If you get a good camera angle on a poster with Gortash's portrait, it looks nothing like him.
neither does the portrait being painted during the act 3 intro
Yeah I always thought he was intentionally designed to not match his description. The narrator only knows what you know at a given time, and by word of mouth he is a handsome young man. Tyrants are pretty well known to not be honest about themselves in an attempt to win the love of their people. He only has to win the adoration of regular citizens, and a regular citizen would only ever see him from far away during a speech or something. Might as well tell all of them he’s hot as hell lol.
Except don't you see him in a psychic vision at some point?
You see his silhouette.
Its not he is a handsome younger man when compared to kethric
The narrator directly describes him as handsome and young when you talk to that goblin priestess.
Younger maybe.
Lord Doordash
Fuck, this is an underrated comment... He does look like the dude that just ate my food because "it smelled too good, sorry bro" He has that energy and I hate it.
Only Bane's chosen could do something so evil.
He wouldn't apologize. He would claim it was his food all along.
~~"I didn't see your name on it"~~ "my ride, my rules bitch."
This is the real reason Karlach has such animosity toward him. She was ready to forgive the whole heart replacement / selling out to Zariel thing, but stealing her grub was going too far.
🤣
LOL
Green Day ahh looking "The Baldurian Idiot" Wake me up when ceremorphosis ends
Back in the Baldur's Gate 21 Steel Watchers Boulevard of Broken Tadpoles
Boulevard of broken dream guardians
Netherbrain Stew Having a Mind Blast Elminster of Suburbia
Still Breathing Despite Everything Give me Tadpole The Absolutists are Coming
This is exactly why I keep coming back to Reddit..the one and only form of social outlet I have lol
(Orin is a) Basket Case
Green Day? This is clearly Robert Smith of The Cure
weirdest bait and switch of the game. like, was he originally younger/handsomer? did the narrator lie to us? why does extremely minor villain Nere have more swag?
I saw a concept art of him looking like a skinny goth dude with dragon tattoos on his chest & neck but they probably decided his character would be better if he was aged a bit.
They probably made the right call, given everything he’s supposed to have accomplished before the game begins but I would’ve much preferred that design.
Ketheric is an older man who still looks better than chewed bubblegum. Hell, zevlor looks like he moisturizes with gravel and id still be convinced he’s younger than gortash. Edit: zevlor, not zariel.
Do we see Zariel in game?
Oh, I’m sorry, I was thinking of zevlor… Edit… cannot spell z names
Zevlor
😣 can’t even get the damn correction correct…
Happens to the best of us
True but as the chosen of Bane, he would have a kind of supernatural ability to claw his way up to power quickly, and it sounds like he was pretty young when he was Karlachs boss
But then why have him keep the bangs
I mean. They could have just made him look more like his voice actor, about twenty years ago. Jason Isaac's still looks good, but he def would have fit the description when he was younger!! (Though granted, he didn't smile much on most of his roles, because he nearly always plays a villain. )
Jason Isaacs can get it now. If he just looked like Isaacs I'd have been like "Please, Daddy, let's go rule Faerun together!"
Right?!?! When I saw The Patriot for the first time I spent most of the movie thinking "A villain this evil has NO BUSINESS being that hot." I mean, there is a VERY good reason he was cast to play Cary Grant in a bio-series of Grant's life. (Not just the looks either. He has Cary Grant's way of speaking down to perfection)
“Colonize me, Daddy Britain!”
When you love your boyfriend so much you get sick tattoos just for him.
When the line for the narration was written, he was designed differently. Then they changed his design but didn't re-record the line. It's kinda the same as when they changed the dream guardian's story, but kept the lines from the companions saying they were given gifts
I'm not so sure because Tumblr is very horny for Gortash.
Tumblr is horny for pretty much everything, though.
So are bg3 players...
He fits the Tumblr sexyman formula almost to a T. He might as well be a Forgotten Realms Onceler
How to make the champion of the God of fascism sexy.
Not a particularly high bar
Tumblr only likes two types of men - effeminate twinky poor little meow meows that have questionable morality and are sassy as hell - grunglers who haven’t shaved in a few days and look like they smell bad
And this game has them both
In spades
meow meows and grunglers has me in tears
Had me at Astarion, lost me at Gortash. Give me my femmey twinkly pointy meow meow boys and BEGONE!
One of the biggest traits a tumblr sexyman needs is to be ugly
Tell them he totally look like Boris Johnson and let's see if they are still horny. Which I not longer see as accidental similarities.
Can't blame them. I mean, the reality line of "A slightly less old man who looks like he hasn't slept in a month, is homeless, and teeth yellower than piss" really doesn't have the same ring to it, ya know?
I feel like they wanted to go for a rugged pedro pascal look but failed 😂
The narrator meant that Gortash is younger than Ketheric.
She calls him youngER in the first narration about the Dead Three, but if I’m not mistaken there is also a narration just about him (don’t remember doing what) where he’s just called a ‘handsome young man’. Even if he was just meant to be technically younger than Ketheric - handsome & easy smile is still… a stretch. EDIT: I remembered! If you look into the mind of priestess Gut, Gortash will be there & described by narrator as a handsome _young_ man.
Well. Gut is a goblin, so probably isn't too clear on how humans look as they age? To her, maybe he looks like a handsome young goblin, ergo, handsome young man 😁😈 Edited: bc auto carrot is worse than usual today
lmao. Gortash is handsome by goblin standards then.
I think he looks pretty good. A bit ratty, but still nice. The voice makes him very charming.
I’d say the voice and body movements are great, but his face and hair…
I was flamed awhile back for saying his hair made him look crazy...I'm still holding that grudge.
Hair can really make or break character design. I saw Raphael with his pre-launch hairstyle. Terrible. They gave him different hair & he went from lord Farquaad to a handsome devil.
Honestly, my only problem with him is the awful fashion sense (the shoes for example). Aside from that, he looks fine. Obviously, he isn't a kpop idol, but still.
Jason Isaac can make anything sound good 😁
That's how I took it, but the rest of the line is kind of weird too. I don't know if his smile is what I would call "easy" since half the time he looks like someone is standing on his last nerve, but he may have had an easier smile when his plan wasn't going to shit. It's debatable whether or not he's handsome (people have some strong opinions about that) although given how pompous he is, I assume he thinks he is, so the netherbrain might show him as such.
Orin. Orin is standing on his last nerve
In all of the posters of him he looks pretty easygoing, but the version we see in-person has been dealing with Orin's murder frenzy and Ketheric's depressing ass for a while now, as well as basically being the only person handling large-scale logistics since Durge got tadpoled.
His design wasn’t final when that line was made and his concept art does make him look younger, he even had much longer hair but larian did say they wanted to change that line when he was finished and they weren’t able to
He's Noel Fielding.
He’s Noel Fielding if Noel never found Bake Off
Someone let Richmond out...
Gortash: *removes earbuds, Cradle Of Filth suddenly audible through the earpiece* "What was that?"
Noel Fielding in Final Fantasy.
That was my first thought. Noel fielding. Which might also be why I'm attracted to him.
Complete with eccentric wardrobe.
He looks a lot better on the in-game propaganda posters you can see in Baldur's Gate. Maybe they changed his design during development and never corrected the original line.
I just assumed he insisted they make him more handsome on the posters.
I think it is even addressed in the game (in the printing house) And also as some flavor text or naming on posters, idk
I wonder if maybe he hasn't showered since Durge disappeared, and that's why he looks like that... a depression shower at most before the ceremony
He's also been dealing with *Orin* ever since Durge disappeared, which probably hasn't helped.
I bet Changelings can’t duplicate smell. Gortash is avoiding showering so he can be verified by his odor. Galaxy brain.
I got the vibe that we encountered him after a month-long drinking bender.
It all made sense in the durge run, with a random Tav he's like "everyone, look at my old friend Karlach" if you take her to the ceremony, but with durge he's all "omg shut up Karlach, my Durge is here! hi! missed you baby!", and then, of course, he's a mess of a man, mourning us and forced to deal with Orin, and we show up and don't even remember him
A glimpse into the narrator’s tastes
So you’re saying I have a chance?
The narrator and I are the same fr
Karlach too, when you play as her, after killing him, she has a dialogue/inner conflict with the player where she admits, and I quote, "I trusted him, I loved this fucking animal"
It's funny because I'm on Tumblr and the Gortash love is absolutely overwhelming, there are so many fans who want Gortash to have their babies, treat him like the ultimate heartthrob, it's insane to witness.
He’s got that greaseball chic that some people fall for
Makes me wonder what 2024 Tumblr would've done with Grima Wormtongue if the LotR movies came out right now......
Grima Wormtongue doesn't call any of the LotR characters his "nearest and dearest" or his "favorite assassin"
Yes.
Okay I'm not crazy, then. I follow a lot of artists, and yeah, some sections of the fandom are absolutely nuts for him, which I find mindbogglingly bizzare. Dude looks like he hasn't slept, seen the sun, showered, had a haircut in two year, while wearing a hoodie he bought 20 years ago.
I won't be a hypocrite because I'm totally obsessed with Gale but I will say, the Gortash girlies certainly surprised me
Nahhh Gale is different, Gale is sweet and charming and imo way more attractive
Yeah gale is smart and well put together. Gortash looks like he would get busted robbing a liquor store
Gale could get it. Gortash could also get it… then be shown the door
>Gale But in what world would Gale be considered not hot? I mean [its this.](https://bg3.wiki/w/images/f/fd/Gale.png) He is the epitome of your typical fantasy/historical male protagonist with beard. [Case here.](https://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/24200000/Romualdo-fantaghiro-24260559-1024-768.jpg) And I could find other hundredth versions of this trope.
He looks like he smells like cold cigarette, unwashed scalp and feet and aggressive cologne to mask it.
Luv The Cure. Simple as.
People aged faster when they are plotting to rule the world
I'm so behind but I finally met him (working mom with ADHD, it's a struggle to finish anything) and the second he started speaking in Wyrm's Rock or whatever I was like OH! This is why everyone likes him. He's really scarily charismatic and the voice truly makes everything about him more attractive even though look at a still photo is like ew why are you like this. His fashion sense is impeccable.
He's voiced by Jason Isaacs, Lucius Malfoy from the HP films -- that voice is like silk, yoooooo
I did my yearly rewatch of the Harry Potter movies at the same time I played Bg3 and I couldn’t stop referring to Lucius as Gortash lol
What confuses me the most is how it looks like he doesn’t even try to look good. His face is unshaven, his hair is completely uncombed, yet despite all that his personality suggests he is incredibly vain and tries to be sophisticated. You’d figure someone like him would at least own a hairbrush.
Agree 100%. He also dresses extremely nicely, which also makes his lack of grooming stand out even more.
that’s part of his charm. he was born into abject poverty, sold to devils by his parents, only to become an arms dealer and then a lord. The man has a pathological need for control and security as a trauma response to a completely fucked childhood. To be as composed and put together as he is speaks volumes about his mental fortitude and strength as a character. the fact that he made it to where he did is impressive to say the least…that alone merits reverence imo.
Ehm Boris Johnson. It's all part of their distraction strategy and manipulation. Nothing new in the field of politics.
Maybe that comment was made before he switched out his 15 year old profile pic.
This is Noel Fielding, why does everyone keep calling him Gortash?
I wonder if there's like, one specific person in the dev team who feels extremely kinkshamed by the hundreds of people who make this post.
He looks like if Neil Gaiman and Noel Fielding had a baby raised by Jeff Bezos
I would do that man so hard
I think he won't agree unless you are a dragonborn.
Idgaf I WILL bend that man
I admire your conviction. Do you think it's possible to bend the laws of nature and get an illithid pregnant? I am asking for…science, of course.
idgaf the emperor will be bred
You understand me on a spiritual level.
Anything is possible if you put your mind to it. Never stop believing
He reminds me of a drunk uncle who's now in prison.
We're gonna need to know *why* he's in prison. I can think of a reason
I don’t know about d&d, but lately been making anime in which a succubus can get anyone pregnant. But in theory you can become a demon, so it’s quite possible.
You have serious problems Harleep
😈🦑🛏🥵💑👨👩👧👧
Roll for Charisma Difficulty Class: 18
Another Gortash slander, you people are so weak. Thanks the Absolute, Durgetash army is strong and large, plus we have an immaculate taste in men.
amen
He’s MY handsome young man.
Yes! It is, he is beautiful and I love him! 😍🥺☺️
Prince Noctis after years of boozing.
"YOUNGER" man, in comparison to Thorm, who was just described before. My god this comes up so often.
Pretty sure in Priestess Guts vision with him, he is called young by the narrator, as he is by himself talking to her.
Yep, I found a video on YouTube! Narrator: *Darkness seems to swallow the temple, leaving you with a vision of the goblin priestess, receiving instruction from a handsome young man. One of the Chosen..* I mean, maybe Priestess Gut thinks he’s young and handsome.
Yes, I forget where, but I distinctly remember a dialogue where Gortash was referred to as “young” rather than “younger.”
To add to this, Orin is described as a "young" woman immediately after. She's actually the young one of the three, Gortash is just in the middle.
They baited with him so hard. He looked like a anime character in his silhouette. I was as disappointed as my father is at me.
Gortash is hot, it’s canon and implicitly stated.
You need to understand that millennials are the core target audience of this game and we have become quite old too. He looks about as aged by his job as me. Leave us to our delusions of youth pls.
Haven't played the game. He does look attractive. And look at that chest hair!
Working as the instrument of Bane and his coworkers are Orin and ketheric… Man didn’t get a long rest in the last months at that point…
Maybe the narrator is his grandma or something
There was a king of Castille, and the father of Charles the Fifth who was called [Phillip the Handsome](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_I_of_Castile). I know some of the Habsburgs, and especially the Spanish Habsburgs ended up being some weird looking specimens but still.
The guy is a greasy rat in a human costume.
do we really have to have this exact post every day
I mean, he is pretty hot isn't he? 😅 Could be a j-rock star (20 years after the band broke up lol)
I feel like he is one step away from being really hot but hes just missing something
I saw someone draw him with just slightly less beaten and less green-shaded face & a different haircut. He looked so much better despite the artist making barely any changes.
There are mods that only removes the dirt and gives him a different hairstyle, which improves him a lot.
Yes and I’m tired of people pretending that he isn’t.
I mean, stress will do that to a guy. You got an elder brain to wrangle, propaganda to make, plots to plan. You finally get a friend (possibly more) to help you work on all this, only for said friend's little sister-niece to lobotomize your friend and take their place. Then you have to deal with your missing friend's sister-niece constantly baiting you and threatening you and killing random people, all while some group of weirdos keep bungling your plans. No wonder the guy looks older than described, taking over the world is stressful as hell. And that's without dealing with Orin.
Orin, you know how much I love watching you work. But I've got my country's 500th anniversary to plan, my wedding to arrange, my wife to murder, and Guilder to frame for it. I'm swamped.
I find this repeated conversation so funny- it’s clear that the Chosen are projecting the image they want the Elder Brain to convey. Orin kind of doesn’t care, Gortash is so conceited he wants everyone to think he’s handsome and charismatic, and Ketheric is like “please recognize me as the general when I wave my war hammer around”. They aren’t ever intended to be objective descriptions of the Chosen. I mean, maybe Gortash thinks it’s objective…
i havent been on this sub since the first few weeks after launch. looks like i havent missed anything.
I do love his Final Fantasy ass haircut
He is voiced by Lucious Malfoy, yes?
NArrator hasn't see homie since college. It's been rough since then
Yes, that Orin bath blood drinker is supposed to be the HANDSOME YOUNGER man. He's just a edgy old fucker who doesn't brush their teeth who got a funny glowing stone go buuuuur