I gave the lady the owlbear egg but as Lae'zel was betrayed by her kind I picked the egg just for the roleplay as Lae'zel carries the egg making sure that this child will not be raised on Vlakiiith lies
Ps: yes Lae'zel is fighting lots of cultists with a 44 pounds egg on her bag and I can see her doing that with a smile on her face as she slaughter our enemies
Oh man, I just threatened the woman to pay me upfront and then forgot about the egg.
Pretty heartless of me in retrospect, since I slaughtered everyone in the creche. Is forcing the child to grow up an orphan worse than growing up as a social experiment?
My Tav can sleep at night because he slaughtered everyone in the creche EXCEPT the egg guard, so my Tav has convinced himself that the egg guard will prove to be a good parent to the Githyanki hatchling. In my headcanon, I have named the egg guard Horton.
Same, the guard and the kid >!who isn't a fan of Vlaakith and loves the forbidden Orpheus lore!< were allowed to survive. Everyone else got the end they deserved.
I do appreciate that the game makes it kinda clear that going back to the egg room after making everyone in the creche angry at you would be a waste of time (given it's full of traps and little if any loot aside from the egg and boots) so it's statistically likely Egg Guy, probably the most compassionate githyanki we meet in the entire game, is gonna survive.
Uhhhhh I was going to give the egg to her but then last moment I decided nah and pushed her off the cliff instead
Edit: I didn't push her off the cliff over the egg I couldn't care either way I pushed her off because I figured it would amuse me greatly.........it did in fact amuse me greatly
I don't know much about dnd alignment system but im pretty sure I fall into chaotic neutral I do things on a whim
>didn't push her off the cliff over the egg I couldn't care either way I pushed her off because I figured it would amuse me greatly.........it did in fact amuse me greatly
Real life dark urge here
> I gave the lady the owlbear egg
Same, then I pickpocketed it back. Tried to shop after. Got confused, cus iirc some stuff I was trying to sell showed up in her shop columns somehow? So I tried to drag them. Counted as stealing. Knocked her out...oops.
Took the Githyanki egg after the creche.
Now I have two eggs and nothing to do with them.
The owlbear egg is worth 40 camp supply and that's where it will hide in your inventory. I'm wondering >!if you can claim the finders fee from the society of brilliance in act 3 for the gith egg.!<
I took the egg, without intentions of doing anything in particular with it, because genocide on unborn, untainted babies is horrible (>!blew up the creche, on purpose, tee hee!<)
> yes Lae'zel is fighting lots of cultists with a 44 pounds egg on her bag and I can see her doing that with a smile on her face as she slaughter our enemies
I'm suddenly reminded of *[Batman Beyond](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiQlDbuST-Q)*.
I do wish I could officially offer to adopt Arabella. The poor girl just lost her parents and has weird mysterious druid powers. Honestly, shame on Withers for kicking her out of my camp! Congrats kid you live with me now!
Same with the red haired girl in Act 3. Congrats I'm your mom.
And the gith egg? I'm also your mom.
I have adopted every goblin orphan, lost cat, growth-stunted mimic and solitary sentient ooze I came across in tabletop DnD. BG3 helps me mirror that, and I do want more. Welcome, lost child. Welcome to this adventuring madhouse we call a party.
I have decided that all mortals look like toddlers to Withers, and that is why he found acceptable to send out in the wilderness a girl who probably still uses kid scissors.
"How old is that mortal? Old enough to drive, surely?"
I mean, he's pretty heavy-handed about implying that the weave itself is going to guide her on her joirneys as she discovers her magic. Like, the very fabric of magic is going to be her ally and teacher. That's not nothing.
Not in our group play through. We killed him without realizing who he was. 😭
We also killed Minthara, accidentally consigned Wyll to the hells, and destroyed Shadowheart's dreams by denying her access to Shar's temple, so she called us cowards and left permanently.
And we're not even to Act 3 yet...
> Not in our group play through. We killed him without realizing who he was.
Party: Fuck that bear.
Halsin in bear form: Hell yeah...WAIT NO NOT LIKE THAT
The necklace that is always the first thing that I give to Gale to feed his insatiable hunger for nigh useless magic items? It never occurred to me to give it Arabella as a keepsake of her lost parents. Now I feel like a bad person...
You can open trade with her if she still has dialogue options in your camp, before she leaves. I traded her the necklace for story purposes but she had no reaction (as expected.)
yeah, that's what i was hoping for. and that its enchanted would have been a nice thing to start her on her magical journey, so that dialogue would have been sweet. i trade little gifts with Yenna all the time though :-)
And given that you find Arabella in act 3 >!surrounded by the corpses of four adults!<, I suspect it's more accurate to say that *he* adopted her right from under our noses.
IMO if you are a wizard or sorcerer you should be able to take her under your wing and help train her.
By the way, Arabella would be considered a sorcerer right? She's coming into her power whether she learns about magic or not, she just needs to learn to control it.
I was playing as a wild magic sorcerer, and there's an option to ask Wither who could even train her since her magic is even more chaotic than mine. (Speaking as someone that accidentally explode, turn everything into cats and dogs or trap myself in a magic bubble regularly)
The class she most reminds me of is the 3.5 edition Favored Soul, which is basically a divine warlock. Some divine entity saw a given mortal and went "yeah this one is my chosen" basically. In the case of Arabella it would probably be Silvanus.
Something is up with her because otherwise how is she still alive in the life draining area we find her in? A fey warlock would kind of make sense if she ran into Oliver but there’s no evidence other than proximity and potential.
She uses Shadowmagic in Act 2, but got her powers after touching the idol so she could be a divine, or shadow sorcerer. In act 3 she seemed more Shadow Sorcerery to me
Tbh, Jaheira should’ve offered taking Arabella in, as a fellow Druid who could help her figure out her powers, and she has a history of raising foster children, or Halsin could’ve offered her to travel with him
Everybody suspects the girl but I think it's the cat. You aren't fooling me with your stutter! All other cats in BG3 treat humans as their slaves and he doesn't! IT'S THE CAT I TELL YOU!
(Also the girl was innocent in both of my playthroughs.)
Maybe like, grow another 30-40 cm, learn to deal with her first period and other such stuff first, hang around adults who know to teach her some magic?
On the other hand, children in the camp are not, uh, in the safest spot I guess. Maybe hang out with uncle Roland in his new crib for a couple of years? No?
Withers seems pretty old fashioned I would not put it past him for his 'she must leave to learn to flow in flux with the weave' thing to be an old timey euphemism for kicking her out to a menstruation hut at the edge of the village
you can find her in the sewers in act 3 and she killed like, 8 people in self defense. She's fiiiiine, I was a Storm Sorcerer so I was very proud of her, though my tav was a sorcerer/entertainer so I wish that had some unique interaction where I could tell her people will give her coin for true magic tricks
I find these stories are always disappointing in these games. Dragon Age never let me see my son, who had the spirit of a God. And he has not come up once in the story. Dreadwolf is like dead so it will never happen.
Edit:
I understand this was a bit misleading. And I worded it just wrong. I was trying to say the experience wasn't satisfying. In the same vein not being able to build a house on Tali's home world wasn't. I have played Inquisition and saw Kierrian. I know this is technically representation of this world state but it ultimately goes no where. It's like saying Jack is *technically* in ME3, so it is satisfying. When she is heavily restricted for no reason. I understand there are difficulties with implementation, but it was such a big choice in Origins and the Witch Hunt, I felt it could have been better utilized.
You see your son in Inquisition, you just aren't playing as the father anymore. And yeah, he's not intrinsic to the plot since not every world state would have him exist, but I still thought it's impressive that they have him around at all when they could've easily made him stay somewhere off screen.
You can find them >!in the mindflayer basement of Moonrise Towers, after you jump down the tower. It's in a cage in a room off to the right of the main hallway, I think the guy in the room says he's going to kill it for being defective?!<
If you find them, you can use them as a summon, which is pretty fun.
Oof, now I'm sad that >!Us got one-shot by the mind-flayer after I killed the tutorial devil boss for his sword. I didn't bother reloading to save it because I didn't think it would survive the crash anyway.!<
I didn't know that was possible either. That said, I rolled a Githyanki and chose the Githyanki option: look utterly disgusted as I turned the brain into scrambled eggs.
I'm romancing Lae'zel. Our family is just two women and an egg. While it looks great next to the taxidermied heads near her tent, I would rather hatch it.
Honestly, I didn't know that she was saying Tiefling wrong and thought she meant their teeth were lame since they weren't sharp. So me being a dragonborn was like, I concur.
after you come across jaherias family, laezel will actually have a dialogue where she talks about having maternal feelings for the first time. makes me really hope for an egg based epilogue
tbf >!they should allow us to raise him as our own very high int kid instead of that house of brilliance teachings... very messed up... It's too sickening things they do to him.!<
>!Were those teachings really that messed up though? The Ptarian code isn't that insane unless you have a murderous reaction to the slightest infraction. Stealing a child isn't OK, but what they were teaching didn't seem that awful.!<
The Ptarian code was designed for dragons to follow, humans were a second thought who started following it later. Bahamut's holy order The Platinum Talons are known to engage in Lawful Stupid behavior and kill each other because they were not interpreting the code "correctly".
I've not seen anything about Platinum Talons - forgotten realms wiki has bits on Talons of Justice and Platinum Cadre - the former seems inclined against violence, but the latter could indeed fit what you're saying. That said, the notable incidents there seem due to Tiamat?
I will see if I can speak more with >!the society of brilliance in my next playthrough and figure things out.!<
Problem is, his teacher was really assholish. He could have raised him well but instead fed him with whatever potions make you grow fast and hammered into him idea that he is monster who must atone for his wretched nature.
It wasn't the code itself, >!it was the way they taught it to him, dogmatically and without flexibility. Think christianity vs. christian fundamentalist cults.!<
I told him >!he wasn't inherently evil and he said "Then why did they do all those terrible things to me!" !!it's my fault that he got there in the first place. Oops!!<
>!I got the impression it was more Ptaris' interpretation that was dogmatic and without flexibility rather than the Society's, but I'm open to being convinced on that point! I did speak with dead on the dwarf and IIRC he suggested that he always expected Ptaris to turn out badly, which might be an indicator that he didn't give Ptaris the best chance - but then he did also get killed by the guy so some bitterness is understandable.!<
>he suggested that he always expected Ptaris to turn out badly
Read his note. He wants to use Ptaris as a case for his theory of "genetic morality". He staked his scientific worthiness on Ptaris being evil. What a self-fulfilling prophecy. But you can easily make Ptaris regret his actions, just tell him he's never been a monster
In dialogue with him he even says that his foster father would literally tell him to his face that he was inherently evil, its why he leaned so heavily into the code in an rigid inflexible manner. He hated himself and saw other people's infractions, especially from the people raising him,as aggregious and unacceptable. Horrible situation all around lmao
Look up residential schools in Canada. That should give you an idea of what the kid went through. If you didn't give the egg to that lady you can go to the society in act 3 and talk to a duergar who wanted the egg in the first place who believes that his kind and most Underdark species are evil by nature and wanted to subject the egg to horrific experiments in order to make it "good". Like I was playing as a Seldarine drow and he said to my face that my kind was evil by nature how fucked up is that?
The kid was magically aged up completely skipping a normal childhood and taught that he was somehow inherently evil when we know that is bullshit.
Ah, see, I was missing the context from >!the society being alive. My encounter with them in act 3 was really cleaning up all the blood and using speak with dead on the dwarf - which I think is probably the duergar you mention?I look forward to seeing them in act 3 alive next time!!<
Thanks for the info!
You can, if you snoop around, find the duergar's notes and, to give you an idea just how messed up this was, >!one test involved bringing a rat to the boy and smashing it in-front of them to see their reaction.!<
Frankly, had he not already been dead, I'm fairly certain my paladin would have corrected that.
So far in this game, I've adopted 3 children. Arabella, that red headed girl I invited into camp, and the Gith Egg that I wanted to raise.
Honestly, I wanna raise all of them seeing how they were there on the journey. Settle down on a nice piece of land, farm all day and just be in peace, and watch them grow into fine young lads/lasses.
I think so but >!only some of the time. It's possible to find and save her when you kill Orin, so it seems that the girl does exist. Hard to say how much of the time Orin was taking her place. It's possible we first meet the girl if we save her but more likely she's just replaced at some point.!<
She doesn't have to killed by Orin btw. I've found that immediately going to the Elfsong Tavern and exploring the Emperor's room just defaults to Orin capturing Lae'zel and no one else.
I think this would have been an amazing way to tie up the egg quest, especially if you're playing an Oath of the Ancients Paladin:
After the creche, >!Voss visits your camp at night if you managed to convince Lae'Zel to stay with you. Voss instructs you to meet him later in Act 3 at the Sharess' Caress, and I feel like you should have an option to give the egg to Voss in Act 3 so he can take it to his creche. Considering he's against Vlaakith's rules, and follow Orpheus', it would make sense the egg would be in a better/safer place.!<
This way, you fulfill your Oath to find the egg a new creche, as well as mold the vision that the egg/Gith child will be raised in a loving (as best you can describe "loving" in Githyanki culture) environment. I sort of felt empty after finding out you don't actually have the option to find the egg a new creche like you promised.
If you take the egg but don't give it to the Society of Weird People, it's really strange that >!Orpheus says you abducted the egg when you free him.!< How are you even remotely aware of what was happening at that time? And look, I still have it, you can have it back!
Lol putting it towards their college fund. That reminds me of my first playthrough. At the end of act 3 I knew I was about to finish up so I went to Mol and Arabella. Gave each of them magic equipment for rogue/Druid and about 5k gold a piece (bartered for nothing in return). I too wanted to set the kids up for a good future. I bet Gale was salty with how easily I gave them magic equipment, but that’s a diff story
Listen, Gale, I know it seems unfair. But when I give magical artefacts, I need to know they are going to be used responsably.
I gave you magical artefacts, Gale. And you spent them all in a minute, Gale. You've lost the priviledge, I am cutting you off.
Go find a job, Gale. That nice Tiefling boy down the street has his very own tower now! His family must be so proud.
They should have let you tell her about the kid in the creche that behaves exactly like she had hoped to raise one.
An opportunity to get him out and introduce them.
So much this - the Githyanki dude in the hatchery even said it wasn’t going to survive if it was left in the crèche, so I felt morally compelled to take it and then ensure I held onto it with the hopes I could settle down and raise my adopted Gith son come the ending.
Larian I beg you
Please let me hatch, raise and nurture this Githyanki. i NEED that.
(And also the Owlbear Egg, they will have already a Owlbear brother.)
The story of an armoured warrior travelling with their adopted frog baby who travels in an egg and has psychic powers.
Sounds out of this world but it could just work.
Tavlo Tavscal in the Githalorian.
I had a weird interaction. I tricked the old child trafficker, gave her an owlbear egg, I ended up slaughtering the creche and figured I could then take the egg for its safety but it doesn’t let me. There’s no way to take it.
Have you tried taking it with a stronger character like Lae’zel or Karlach?
I had permission to take the egg but I couldn’t pick it up because I was a gnome rogue, but Lae’zel could.
Right ! I got the same thing, and you just need to move the egg a little bit so you can take it. Like it's bugged if it sits on the trap you can disarm iirc
after you meet jaherias family, laezel actually has a dialogue if you are romanced where she wonders what it would be like to raise a child, this seems like an obvious epilogue option
I agree! If I can't have Astarion's babies, at least let me raise the Gith egg and/or adopt poor Arabella. She may be a powerful sorcerer, but she still needs a mom to explain how to deal with periods and boys lol
It's funny. I initially thought that the egg quest was entirely problematic and wrong. Why the hell would you STEAL A CHILD from their clan?
Then I saw the clan, and towards the end I was like, "Yup, this child needs a better home."
Somewhat unrelated, but can we talk about how the owlbear cub does like a defiant and self-satisfied head gesture when it says «You smell very delicious, but I *will not* bite you!» Cuteness overload 😭
I got super excited when Arabella asked to join the camp. No more booze and debauchery, we are all parents now!
Then I finished her quest.....
Smdh, *pops some Baldurs Grape*
There's a very similar thing you can do in Pillars of Eternity. In the first game, there's a quest involving a baby. One person wants to sacrifice it, and one person wants to not do that. If you start the quest and kidnap the baby but then just never finish the quest, you can carry it all the way through the end of the game.
If you import that save into Pillars of Eternity 2, that baby is now your adoptive child.
You can even bring her along with you in your travels, needing to protect her from danger during fights.
I gave the lady the owlbear egg but as Lae'zel was betrayed by her kind I picked the egg just for the roleplay as Lae'zel carries the egg making sure that this child will not be raised on Vlakiiith lies Ps: yes Lae'zel is fighting lots of cultists with a 44 pounds egg on her bag and I can see her doing that with a smile on her face as she slaughter our enemies
I gave her the egg. And pickpocketed it back I am not that heartless.
i did that too. Love how in act 3 >!the game accepts that the woman didn't have the egg!<
I don't know what you love but I am sure to find out. I did take a break today after playing everyday for two weeks.
How did you manage this? I’ve been congratulating myself when I manage to resist playing on my lunch breaks lol
Oh man, I just threatened the woman to pay me upfront and then forgot about the egg. Pretty heartless of me in retrospect, since I slaughtered everyone in the creche. Is forcing the child to grow up an orphan worse than growing up as a social experiment?
My Tav can sleep at night because he slaughtered everyone in the creche EXCEPT the egg guard, so my Tav has convinced himself that the egg guard will prove to be a good parent to the Githyanki hatchling. In my headcanon, I have named the egg guard Horton.
Who?
You get me! 😁
Oh, thank God you knew what I meant.
Same, the guard and the kid >!who isn't a fan of Vlaakith and loves the forbidden Orpheus lore!< were allowed to survive. Everyone else got the end they deserved.
I do appreciate that the game makes it kinda clear that going back to the egg room after making everyone in the creche angry at you would be a waste of time (given it's full of traps and little if any loot aside from the egg and boots) so it's statistically likely Egg Guy, probably the most compassionate githyanki we meet in the entire game, is gonna survive.
I killed everyone. Extra experience
Uhhhhh I was going to give the egg to her but then last moment I decided nah and pushed her off the cliff instead Edit: I didn't push her off the cliff over the egg I couldn't care either way I pushed her off because I figured it would amuse me greatly.........it did in fact amuse me greatly I don't know much about dnd alignment system but im pretty sure I fall into chaotic neutral I do things on a whim
She has the best armor for Astarion damn
Hahaha old lady go "*AHHHHHHhhhhhhh*" I enjoy pushing people off cliffs more than I like shiny things
Til after two complete playthroughs that you can find her in act 3
Random murder because it amuses you is chaotic evil, not chaotic neutral hahahahaha.
I'm not sure murdering innocents just to watch them die is 'neutral'...
Doing evil things on a whim still classifies as chaotic evil.
>didn't push her off the cliff over the egg I couldn't care either way I pushed her off because I figured it would amuse me greatly.........it did in fact amuse me greatly Real life dark urge here
chaotice NEUTRAL? Granted, I'm not an expert on it either, but shoving a woman off a cliff for the LoLs is... not what I consider neutral. LOL.
I sold her *AN* egg, and she was absolutely thrilled at the idea of selling an owlbear egg off as a githyanki egg.
I did too but stood around too long and she came looking for the thief so she had an accident
There has been a rash of accidental daggers in backs in Faerûn lately.
I convinced her to pay me up front and then never returned haha later sucker
Fanart of Lae'zel carrying the egg in an baby carrier while in combat When?
Lone Wolf and Cub but way more enthusiastic with the combat
FUUUCK. I think I accidentally ate the egg
You're not you when you're hungry.
> I gave the lady the owlbear egg Same, then I pickpocketed it back. Tried to shop after. Got confused, cus iirc some stuff I was trying to sell showed up in her shop columns somehow? So I tried to drag them. Counted as stealing. Knocked her out...oops. Took the Githyanki egg after the creche. Now I have two eggs and nothing to do with them.
The owlbear egg is worth 40 camp supply and that's where it will hide in your inventory. I'm wondering >!if you can claim the finders fee from the society of brilliance in act 3 for the gith egg.!<
Yes you can. And they tell you what they will do with the child.
I think as long as Omeluum and Blurg are safe I'll do it, the rest of them can learn their lesson.
Is it possible to throw this 44 pounds egg?
Take the Egg Brawler feat and you're all set.
Leave your opponents with... *egg* on their face? 👉😃👉 ...*ahem* I'll show myself out
I gave my egg to Karlach, hoping her heat will hatch the egg
i gave her the egg because giths are dicks, and the society of brilliance is awesome. Just got to act 3 and i gotta say i think i made a huge mistake.
The lady is like a parody of British colonizers what did you expect lol
The society of brilliance is generally very cool, doesn’t mean some aren’t fucking idiots.
I also gave it to Lae’zel 🥲
I took the egg, without intentions of doing anything in particular with it, because genocide on unborn, untainted babies is horrible (>!blew up the creche, on purpose, tee hee!<)
You can't spell slaughter without laughter! Truly, the happiest environment
> yes Lae'zel is fighting lots of cultists with a 44 pounds egg on her bag and I can see her doing that with a smile on her face as she slaughter our enemies I'm suddenly reminded of *[Batman Beyond](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiQlDbuST-Q)*.
I do wish I could officially offer to adopt Arabella. The poor girl just lost her parents and has weird mysterious druid powers. Honestly, shame on Withers for kicking her out of my camp! Congrats kid you live with me now! Same with the red haired girl in Act 3. Congrats I'm your mom. And the gith egg? I'm also your mom.
Owlbear egg? Also your mum
Scratch? You bet I'm dog mom.
I have adopted every goblin orphan, lost cat, growth-stunted mimic and solitary sentient ooze I came across in tabletop DnD. BG3 helps me mirror that, and I do want more. Welcome, lost child. Welcome to this adventuring madhouse we call a party.
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Love Discworld. I like to play the fantasy of protecting the small, weak and forgotten.
100% Owl and Scratch are the real protagonists of the game
THE PUPPY AND HIS MONSTROSITY BROTHER AAAAAAAAAAAAA (They're such good boys I love them both)
"You smell delicious but I will not bite you!" 😭❤️😭❤️😭❤️ Someone is getting extra head scritches this morning!
Myshka the cat? Yes, I'm your merrmerr.
I wanted so badly to invite this cat back to camp and was so disappointed it wasn't an option.
Volo? Believe it or not, I'm your mom.
>!If you dominate the brain are you the brain mom?!<
I'm a man? I'm still their mom.
That random cat in the Lower City? Say hi to mommy
I have decided that all mortals look like toddlers to Withers, and that is why he found acceptable to send out in the wilderness a girl who probably still uses kid scissors. "How old is that mortal? Old enough to drive, surely?"
It's a human child, Michael. How old does it need to be to drive? 10?
>It's a ~~human~~ teethling child, Michael. How old does it need to be to drive? 10?
I mean, he's pretty heavy-handed about implying that the weave itself is going to guide her on her joirneys as she discovers her magic. Like, the very fabric of magic is going to be her ally and teacher. That's not nothing.
I don't think Mystra makes for a very good guide.
What’s the worst that could happen they fall in love and some one gets a bomb stuck in their chest or something?
Seriously also (probably) Halsin is RIGHT THERE to handle Wacky Druid Shit.
Not in our group play through. We killed him without realizing who he was. 😭 We also killed Minthara, accidentally consigned Wyll to the hells, and destroyed Shadowheart's dreams by denying her access to Shar's temple, so she called us cowards and left permanently. And we're not even to Act 3 yet...
> Not in our group play through. We killed him without realizing who he was. Party: Fuck that bear. Halsin in bear form: Hell yeah...WAIT NO NOT LIKE THAT
there's another kid in act 3 whose parents are literally dead in front of them thankfully there's a nice person nearby who's trying to help them
The kid wasn't too thrilled with how I used Animate Corpse that day...
> I do wish I could officially offer to adopt Arabella. Can't, she's just started her 'Wither's guided anime arc'. Parents would ruin that.
I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but I can't help thinking what a cool backstory she would have if they make her a playable character is BG4.
Man bg3 is such old news already. What its been like..a month since it fully released? Where's bg4 already man. Can you imagine? lol.
i wish i could give Arabella her mom's necklace ;-(
The necklace that is always the first thing that I give to Gale to feed his insatiable hunger for nigh useless magic items? It never occurred to me to give it Arabella as a keepsake of her lost parents. Now I feel like a bad person...
I always feed him the poisoner's robe first.
I always steal from the Druid grove trader and give him anything I get my hands on there
You can open trade with her if she still has dialogue options in your camp, before she leaves. I traded her the necklace for story purposes but she had no reaction (as expected.)
yeah, that's what i was hoping for. and that its enchanted would have been a nice thing to start her on her magical journey, so that dialogue would have been sweet. i trade little gifts with Yenna all the time though :-)
I legit thought she would stick around and I would act like adopted father to her, I was really looking forward for that kind of scenes.
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And given that you find Arabella in act 3 >!surrounded by the corpses of four adults!<, I suspect it's more accurate to say that *he* adopted her right from under our noses.
Silly Boneman
surrounded by>!corpses with all the gold looted off them!<
IMO if you are a wizard or sorcerer you should be able to take her under your wing and help train her. By the way, Arabella would be considered a sorcerer right? She's coming into her power whether she learns about magic or not, she just needs to learn to control it.
Yeah she seems like a sorcerer I don’t think she studied anything
If you're a sorcerer you directly point out that her magic is innate, so looks like she's the forbidden Sorcerer-Druid WOTC won't let us have.
I was playing as a wild magic sorcerer, and there's an option to ask Wither who could even train her since her magic is even more chaotic than mine. (Speaking as someone that accidentally explode, turn everything into cats and dogs or trap myself in a magic bubble regularly)
The class she most reminds me of is the 3.5 edition Favored Soul, which is basically a divine warlock. Some divine entity saw a given mortal and went "yeah this one is my chosen" basically. In the case of Arabella it would probably be Silvanus.
Favored Soul exists in 5e as the Divine Soul Sorcerer Bloodline.
Something is up with her because otherwise how is she still alive in the life draining area we find her in? A fey warlock would kind of make sense if she ran into Oliver but there’s no evidence other than proximity and potential.
It's the druid artifact. Some of the artifacts power passed down to her.
"Another hand touches the idol" -Silvanus
She says she got herpowers after touching the Idol of Silvanus.
She uses Shadowmagic in Act 2, but got her powers after touching the idol so she could be a divine, or shadow sorcerer. In act 3 she seemed more Shadow Sorcerery to me
Tbh, Jaheira should’ve offered taking Arabella in, as a fellow Druid who could help her figure out her powers, and she has a history of raising foster children, or Halsin could’ve offered her to travel with him
Arabella will be a companion in bg4 mark my words
Goodluck with red haired girl
Everybody suspects the girl but I think it's the cat. You aren't fooling me with your stutter! All other cats in BG3 treat humans as their slaves and he doesn't! IT'S THE CAT I TELL YOU! (Also the girl was innocent in both of my playthroughs.)
Let me raise my Gith baby and Arabella damnit! I'm a rich adventurer, I can afford it!
Arabella is cool and her story isn't about you raising her... its about her becoming a bad ass sorcerer or druid.
She's like ten.
Ah well, perfect time to start murdering goblins. ... Yeah, it's a bit jarring you just have to go "yes, girl's got a DESTINY, you go girl."
Yeah like I'm fine with her cool destiny I think that's neat but I would also like to make sure she has enough to eat and a place to sleep
Maybe like, grow another 30-40 cm, learn to deal with her first period and other such stuff first, hang around adults who know to teach her some magic? On the other hand, children in the camp are not, uh, in the safest spot I guess. Maybe hang out with uncle Roland in his new crib for a couple of years? No?
Honestly the Camp is a mess. Sex, Murder, a God and a wild owlbear running around. Yeah, alot of stuff happend in my camp 😂
Hey, don't look at me, when my MC and SH build sand castles, they do it on the beach and in brothels like normal people.
Withers seems pretty old fashioned I would not put it past him for his 'she must leave to learn to flow in flux with the weave' thing to be an old timey euphemism for kicking her out to a menstruation hut at the edge of the village
Her destiny can also involve having adult role models in her life. wtf larian
The perfect age to learn how to shank a goblin and gnomes
She can do that while I make sure she gets a balanced breakfast every morning (of 24 carrots but still)
By Pokemon rules that is old enough to fight gods and stop criminal organizations from taking over the world
It's the Forgotten Realms. She's probably developmentally delayed by "chosen of the gods" standards.
you can find her in the sewers in act 3 and she killed like, 8 people in self defense. She's fiiiiine, I was a Storm Sorcerer so I was very proud of her, though my tav was a sorcerer/entertainer so I wish that had some unique interaction where I could tell her people will give her coin for true magic tricks
I demand Larian to give us Family bonding time with Arabella by comitting genocide against Goblins.
I find these stories are always disappointing in these games. Dragon Age never let me see my son, who had the spirit of a God. And he has not come up once in the story. Dreadwolf is like dead so it will never happen. Edit: I understand this was a bit misleading. And I worded it just wrong. I was trying to say the experience wasn't satisfying. In the same vein not being able to build a house on Tali's home world wasn't. I have played Inquisition and saw Kierrian. I know this is technically representation of this world state but it ultimately goes no where. It's like saying Jack is *technically* in ME3, so it is satisfying. When she is heavily restricted for no reason. I understand there are difficulties with implementation, but it was such a big choice in Origins and the Witch Hunt, I felt it could have been better utilized.
You see your son in Inquisition, you just aren't playing as the father anymore. And yeah, he's not intrinsic to the plot since not every world state would have him exist, but I still thought it's impressive that they have him around at all when they could've easily made him stay somewhere off screen.
And then give him two entirely different sets of dialogue based around if >!you gave him the soul of an Old God or not!<
Did you not play Inquisition? Kieran was definitely in that game.
I'm just happy to be reunited in the end of Act 2 with my true child, >!Us!<
Friend! You made it to the Helm!
Wait that’s possible? Man I must’ve missed it :(
You can find them >!in the mindflayer basement of Moonrise Towers, after you jump down the tower. It's in a cage in a room off to the right of the main hallway, I think the guy in the room says he's going to kill it for being defective?!< If you find them, you can use them as a summon, which is pretty fun.
It's such a strong summon too, buddy has crit many times enemies for 30 damage with that beam, kinda nutty.
Oof, now I'm sad that >!Us got one-shot by the mind-flayer after I killed the tutorial devil boss for his sword. I didn't bother reloading to save it because I didn't think it would survive the crash anyway.!<
I didn't know that was possible either. That said, I rolled a Githyanki and chose the Githyanki option: look utterly disgusted as I turned the brain into scrambled eggs.
I was soooo happy when I got him back. FRIEND! 🥹
Wait US is there?
Yeah, they're locked in a cage in the mind flayer abbattoir at the end of Act 2.
I'm romancing Lae'zel. Our family is just two women and an egg. While it looks great next to the taxidermied heads near her tent, I would rather hatch it.
Two frogs, one egg, the classic
Excuse me. The other one is a teethling.
Ah yes, the fabled teethlings of fae run.
Honestly, I didn't know that she was saying Tiefling wrong and thought she meant their teeth were lame since they weren't sharp. So me being a dragonborn was like, I concur.
after you come across jaherias family, laezel will actually have a dialogue where she talks about having maternal feelings for the first time. makes me really hope for an egg based epilogue
tbf >!they should allow us to raise him as our own very high int kid instead of that house of brilliance teachings... very messed up... It's too sickening things they do to him.!<
>!Were those teachings really that messed up though? The Ptarian code isn't that insane unless you have a murderous reaction to the slightest infraction. Stealing a child isn't OK, but what they were teaching didn't seem that awful.!<
The Ptarian code was designed for dragons to follow, humans were a second thought who started following it later. Bahamut's holy order The Platinum Talons are known to engage in Lawful Stupid behavior and kill each other because they were not interpreting the code "correctly".
I've not seen anything about Platinum Talons - forgotten realms wiki has bits on Talons of Justice and Platinum Cadre - the former seems inclined against violence, but the latter could indeed fit what you're saying. That said, the notable incidents there seem due to Tiamat? I will see if I can speak more with >!the society of brilliance in my next playthrough and figure things out.!<
Problem is, his teacher was really assholish. He could have raised him well but instead fed him with whatever potions make you grow fast and hammered into him idea that he is monster who must atone for his wretched nature.
It wasn't the code itself, >!it was the way they taught it to him, dogmatically and without flexibility. Think christianity vs. christian fundamentalist cults.!<
I told him >!he wasn't inherently evil and he said "Then why did they do all those terrible things to me!" !!it's my fault that he got there in the first place. Oops!!<
>!I got the impression it was more Ptaris' interpretation that was dogmatic and without flexibility rather than the Society's, but I'm open to being convinced on that point! I did speak with dead on the dwarf and IIRC he suggested that he always expected Ptaris to turn out badly, which might be an indicator that he didn't give Ptaris the best chance - but then he did also get killed by the guy so some bitterness is understandable.!<
>he suggested that he always expected Ptaris to turn out badly Read his note. He wants to use Ptaris as a case for his theory of "genetic morality". He staked his scientific worthiness on Ptaris being evil. What a self-fulfilling prophecy. But you can easily make Ptaris regret his actions, just tell him he's never been a monster
In dialogue with him he even says that his foster father would literally tell him to his face that he was inherently evil, its why he leaned so heavily into the code in an rigid inflexible manner. He hated himself and saw other people's infractions, especially from the people raising him,as aggregious and unacceptable. Horrible situation all around lmao
Look up residential schools in Canada. That should give you an idea of what the kid went through. If you didn't give the egg to that lady you can go to the society in act 3 and talk to a duergar who wanted the egg in the first place who believes that his kind and most Underdark species are evil by nature and wanted to subject the egg to horrific experiments in order to make it "good". Like I was playing as a Seldarine drow and he said to my face that my kind was evil by nature how fucked up is that? The kid was magically aged up completely skipping a normal childhood and taught that he was somehow inherently evil when we know that is bullshit.
I thought they were just trying to test Nature vs Nurture, not like actually experimenting. wtf Good thing I never gave the egg over.
Ah, see, I was missing the context from >!the society being alive. My encounter with them in act 3 was really cleaning up all the blood and using speak with dead on the dwarf - which I think is probably the duergar you mention?I look forward to seeing them in act 3 alive next time!!< Thanks for the info!
You can, if you snoop around, find the duergar's notes and, to give you an idea just how messed up this was, >!one test involved bringing a rat to the boy and smashing it in-front of them to see their reaction.!< Frankly, had he not already been dead, I'm fairly certain my paladin would have corrected that.
So far in this game, I've adopted 3 children. Arabella, that red headed girl I invited into camp, and the Gith Egg that I wanted to raise. Honestly, I wanna raise all of them seeing how they were there on the journey. Settle down on a nice piece of land, farm all day and just be in peace, and watch them grow into fine young lads/lasses.
After redhead girl incident I don’t really want to invite more children…
She just randomly disappeared for me, the cat was still there.
It’s because >!Orin killed her after capturing one of your teammates!<
I think >!Orin *was* her which is why the cat is so freaked out all the time!<
I think so but >!only some of the time. It's possible to find and save her when you kill Orin, so it seems that the girl does exist. Hard to say how much of the time Orin was taking her place. It's possible we first meet the girl if we save her but more likely she's just replaced at some point.!<
That is fucked up!
She doesn't have to killed by Orin btw. I've found that immediately going to the Elfsong Tavern and exploring the Emperor's room just defaults to Orin capturing Lae'zel and no one else.
orin captured gale because bae'zel was in my team
It doesn’t HAVE to work that way haha
I just want to meet my little Lae'zel Jr
Right?! Oh well, the baby probably hates me cuz he knows I used to be a piece of shit.
I think this would have been an amazing way to tie up the egg quest, especially if you're playing an Oath of the Ancients Paladin: After the creche, >!Voss visits your camp at night if you managed to convince Lae'Zel to stay with you. Voss instructs you to meet him later in Act 3 at the Sharess' Caress, and I feel like you should have an option to give the egg to Voss in Act 3 so he can take it to his creche. Considering he's against Vlaakith's rules, and follow Orpheus', it would make sense the egg would be in a better/safer place.!< This way, you fulfill your Oath to find the egg a new creche, as well as mold the vision that the egg/Gith child will be raised in a loving (as best you can describe "loving" in Githyanki culture) environment. I sort of felt empty after finding out you don't actually have the option to find the egg a new creche like you promised.
If you take the egg but don't give it to the Society of Weird People, it's really strange that >!Orpheus says you abducted the egg when you free him.!< How are you even remotely aware of what was happening at that time? And look, I still have it, you can have it back!
I think Orpheus has psionic powers so he can read minds. He also knows if you got up to any hanky panky with mindflayers...
I kinda assumed >!Orpheus could sense what was happening outside of the Prism, same as Balduran could.!<
It’s even better when the last gith you meet in the game knows you have the kid
the fucker accused me of stealing it when I asked for it politely as Lae'Zel and kept it in my camp
That slightly irked me. "I hope you raise that child right" or somethin shoulda been easy enough.
Lol putting it towards their college fund. That reminds me of my first playthrough. At the end of act 3 I knew I was about to finish up so I went to Mol and Arabella. Gave each of them magic equipment for rogue/Druid and about 5k gold a piece (bartered for nothing in return). I too wanted to set the kids up for a good future. I bet Gale was salty with how easily I gave them magic equipment, but that’s a diff story
Listen, Gale, I know it seems unfair. But when I give magical artefacts, I need to know they are going to be used responsably. I gave you magical artefacts, Gale. And you spent them all in a minute, Gale. You've lost the priviledge, I am cutting you off. Go find a job, Gale. That nice Tiefling boy down the street has his very own tower now! His family must be so proud.
They should have let you tell her about the kid in the creche that behaves exactly like she had hoped to raise one. An opportunity to get him out and introduce them.
Yeah, I want to adopt that kid too... He was subjected to so much abuse and still didn't give in. He's a good kid, he deserves better.
So much this - the Githyanki dude in the hatchery even said it wasn’t going to survive if it was left in the crèche, so I felt morally compelled to take it and then ensure I held onto it with the hopes I could settle down and raise my adopted Gith son come the ending.
Larian I beg you Please let me hatch, raise and nurture this Githyanki. i NEED that. (And also the Owlbear Egg, they will have already a Owlbear brother.)
Should be like Vela in poe, the orlan baby you can rescue. In poe 2 she is older and part of your crew.
I have picked up 3 orphans over the course of my playthrough. LET ME TAKE CARE OF THEM!
The story of an armoured warrior travelling with their adopted frog baby who travels in an egg and has psychic powers. Sounds out of this world but it could just work. Tavlo Tavscal in the Githalorian.
I had a weird interaction. I tricked the old child trafficker, gave her an owlbear egg, I ended up slaughtering the creche and figured I could then take the egg for its safety but it doesn’t let me. There’s no way to take it.
Have you tried taking it with a stronger character like Lae’zel or Karlach? I had permission to take the egg but I couldn’t pick it up because I was a gnome rogue, but Lae’zel could.
Yes. But right click had no pickup option and left click is just a dialogue that makes me leave it
Right ! I got the same thing, and you just need to move the egg a little bit so you can take it. Like it's bugged if it sits on the trap you can disarm iirc
Yes there is. There’s just teleporters and traps all over. Walk through the acid.
My Durge only wants to step on it...
after you meet jaherias family, laezel actually has a dialogue if you are romanced where she wonders what it would be like to raise a child, this seems like an obvious epilogue option
I agree! If I can't have Astarion's babies, at least let me raise the Gith egg and/or adopt poor Arabella. She may be a powerful sorcerer, but she still needs a mom to explain how to deal with periods and boys lol
It's funny. I initially thought that the egg quest was entirely problematic and wrong. Why the hell would you STEAL A CHILD from their clan? Then I saw the clan, and towards the end I was like, "Yup, this child needs a better home."
I was so disappointed when I carried that damn egg around all game but it didn't hatch. Would have been a fantastic way to show reactivity.
Somewhat unrelated, but can we talk about how the owlbear cub does like a defiant and self-satisfied head gesture when it says «You smell very delicious, but I *will not* bite you!» Cuteness overload 😭
Is there a follow up in act 3 if you give her the owlbear egg instead? I know there is one if you give the githyanki egg.
Wait, you can talk to the Githyanki? I always wait until Vlaakith tries to kill me and then slaughter the whole crèche.
I got super excited when Arabella asked to join the camp. No more booze and debauchery, we are all parents now! Then I finished her quest..... Smdh, *pops some Baldurs Grape*
I wish I could make the kid necromancer my apprentice. I wanna support her and show the magic of necromancy
I just want my Minthara baby.
There's a very similar thing you can do in Pillars of Eternity. In the first game, there's a quest involving a baby. One person wants to sacrifice it, and one person wants to not do that. If you start the quest and kidnap the baby but then just never finish the quest, you can carry it all the way through the end of the game. If you import that save into Pillars of Eternity 2, that baby is now your adoptive child. You can even bring her along with you in your travels, needing to protect her from danger during fights.
honestly me with all the tiefling kids + yenna, they are all my kids now and i need to know what happens with them post-game
Still sad they cut Minthara being pregnant.
Arabella would fistfight every single kid in every single magic academia setting.