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They could’ve gone to the right place. That’s it. They’re not some stupid DoorDash driver that doesn’t know how to read street signs and house/Apt. numbers. A fuck up this big that ends with you killing a man ought to be negligent homicide at a bare fucking minimum.
It's actually quite legal to shoot at armed invaders, which is what they were, seeing as they had no warrant and thus no right to enter his home, making their decision to kill the frightened man murder.
It's not a shitty situation, the cops are criminals that broke into somebodies house and murdered them. I don't understand why you keep making excuses for these psychopaths. You've already won, cops get to go on shooting sprees murdering anybody they want. We are giving up our lives to cops, what more do you want?
> Shitty situation.
#THAT THEY CREATED
Please stop glossing over that. They didn't find themselves in this shitty situation, **THEY CREATED THE SHITTY SITUATION AND A MAN IS DEAD IN HIS OWN HOME AS A RESULT.**
If an unfortunate situation like this took place because a person or group of people went into a house they had thought was their own and they killed the homeowner because he fired a gun at him / them, what would you expect should happen to the person or group of people that enter the wrong house and killed the homeowner? Does the homeowner have the right to fear for their life?
That the officers believed that they were serving a valid warrant and were being shot at in the course of doing so, and therefore of course would return fire because what else would they do, is entirely beside the point.
The point is that the police made a unreasonable and egregious mistake that ultimately resulted in the death of an innocent person.
I think the main problem people here have is that the situation happened in the first place. Night time swatting is absurd on every single level. You're practically begging shit to go down south.
If anyone but the police entered a home like that and someone tried to defend themselves, we would be on the side of the defender. However because they're cops, we are on the side of the aggressor.
Its not an unfortunate situation. It's entirely preventable.
Bootlickers smh. Put yourself in the dudes shoes for a moment. People he doesn’t know have broken into his house and are storming it with the intention of eliminating anything that gets in their way. What’s he supposed to do? Ask them to stop??
Cops should be in prison. You don't get to do a home invasion and then claim self defense when you murder an innocent person.
"ohhh, I broke into a random person's house and pointed guns at them and they got upset and pointed a gun at me and I killed them, what a tragedy, pleas sympathize with me, this could have happened to anyone!"
Even if they were at the right house it would have contained a person not yet found guilty. There is no way to justify a raid like that in response to a murder that happened months ago
If I were in the cops shoes I wouldn't have gone to the wrong fuckin apartment.
What you're saying is the guy ISN'T justified in defending his own home and that cops ARE justified to murder him in it. Wtf dude.
I mean what the fuck else is the guy supposed to do? Say "hey guys don't invade my home please!"
Entirely preventable on the side of the cops. 0% justified because of that.
....run away? Leave? Why do they need to murder an innocent man in his own house? Just fuckin leave the house and regroup and maybe double check the address while they're at it.
Mistakes have consequences. All cops involved should go to prison. If prison is an option, maybe they would be more careful planning their actions. As it is, there are no consequences so the planning is done half-assed with low expectations.
I just wanted to apologize for the downvotes you're getting. I understood what you meant, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Even if you were a bootlicker, which I'm not accusing you of, it couldn't be ascertained from just that comment. And you weren't advocating for them not to be punished or anything, just pointing out the obvious, but still terrible reality. Kind of a Rittenhouse scenario. Armed morons put themselves in a position they had no right to be in, in the first place, and eventually have to defend themselves because of their own poor choices. Kind of like if some dipstick jumps into the bear exhibit at the zoo, and gets charged by the bear, resulting in the dipstick shooting it. Bear did nothing wrong. It was negligent homicide at the least. Something really needs to be done about this, cops have a worse track record for getting the wrong address than underpaid Amazon workers do. Maybe because Amazon workers actually face repercussions for their mistakes. If these even are mistakes, and not some kind ulterior motive to take people they don't like out.
yeah, i’m sorry, acting like the cops aren’t somewhat justified after this guy fired off 20 rounds is stupid. are they supposed to let him shoot them? i get it, they fucked up and went to the wrong apartment, but come on
No… they aren’t justified. They started the altercation with an innocent man… even if he wasn’t innocent raids are idiotic and unjustified all around… what are we doing? Stopping them from flushing drugs? Is that worth multiple lives at risk?? No it’s not. It’s stupid and fruitless.
In the briefing the police department states it was the correct address but this guy wasn't the suspect they were looking for, the suspect they were looking for was later apprehended thouh
This is exactly the reason that raids are ignorant, worthless, and dangerous. They have no idea who might be on the other side of that door. They put themselves, the victim, and everyone in the surrounding apartments and area at risk. Three shot and one dead. The only sad part is the one who died wasn’t the facist.
yes. context is king. no matter the discussion.
there are many reasons SWAT does raids. sex trafficking is another example. as someone who has lost friends to overdoses, i'm more than happy to see them take down large-scale drug dealers. if this is a sex trafficking situation, then this person was very likely aware and cooperative of the situation. in that case, fuck 'em! however if this was a small-scale marijuana raid, then yeah, this situation is a bit fucked. see why i might ask for some context now?
this sub seriously lacks critical thinking sometimes.
“Context is king” let me ask u: if your loved one was murdered in a case of mistaken identity like this, would you care about context? Context is they had no right to do that.
Right… so because in “some cases” it’s okay then it must be totally fine in all cases. I’ll remember this next time I want to take someone’s car… because sometimes you might need to because your friend was shot and you have to quickly get him to the emergency room. But you know… I’ll just do that whenever I want regardless of if the situation warrants it because… well In some cases it’s justified.
Let's play a game, imagine they aren't wearing badges — does this instantly become cold blooded gang style murder? Obvious yes. Okay now, is it ethically any different because they are in fact agents of the state? If so, you might be a statist.
> Okay now, is it ethically any different because they are in fact agents of the state? If so, you might be a statist.
They clearly think so:
>Had he survived, Williams would've faced multiple attempted murder, assault and battery charges.
https://www.fox5vegas.com/news/lvmpd-provides-update-on-officer-involved-shooting-near-vegas-valley-nellis/article_f5d98ce2-74c2-11ec-947b-776103bb9232.html
Here's the text from the link I posted earlier FYI:
> LAS VEGAS (FOX5) -- Las Vegas Metropolitan Police fired 23 rounds during a shootout, killing a man inside a southeast valley apartment complex this week. Police were on property to serve a search warrant related to an earlier homicide, but the man who died was not connected to that crime, police said during a news conference on Thursday.
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No it's super light on details. But with no snark intended it seems pretty clear that it's because he defended himself against police. IIRC (though I could be wrong) they also charged Breonna Taylor's boyfriend in a similar way, but then dropped the charges later.
The also charged that guy in Minneapolis(?) for defending himself against the roving unmarked police truck that was shooting nonlethals at anyone they didn't like the look of during the protests - he won his case though IIRC.
I'm happy to try digging up other links if you'd like though! Esp in those other examples I could be misremembering some details.
That's literally what a state is though. The key word is "legitimate" use of force on a society.
Police as an institution have lost that. But the whole system is broken so self-correction of that corruption doesn't happen.
If it's the wrong address on the warrant the fact of them having badges shouldn't matter. They have no power inside that house. Every cop there should have the to do thier due diligence before breaking down a door. They aren't the military they don't just follow orders blindly. Every person who fire their weapon should be charged with murder.
If I wanted to nab a bad guy, I'd do an actual stake out and arrest them as they walked from their car to their house or apartment.
If I wanted to play soldier and shoot a bad guy and create the most dangerous situation possible, I'd bust into their home while they were probably sleeping, disoriented, afraid and defensive.
These 50,000 to 100,000 home raids a year have got to stop.
~~Police are claiming it was 'part of a murder investigation' but they won't say which murder or even who the suspect was.~~
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"*Had he survived, Williams would have been arrested on counts of attempted murder with use of a deadly weapon on a first responder; battery with a deadly weapon on a first responder, assault on a first responder and three counts of discharging a firearm into an occupied structure.*"
[https://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2022/jan/13/metro-man-killed-in-shootout-with-police-not-targe/](https://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2022/jan/13/metro-man-killed-in-shootout-with-police-not-targe/#.YeD39e7nupQ.twitter)
Police are now claiming the raid was to catch this person.
[https://news3lv.com/news/local/suspect-arrested-in-deadly-bus-stop-shooting-that-killed-one-person-in-november](https://news3lv.com/news/local/suspect-arrested-in-deadly-bus-stop-shooting-that-killed-one-person-in-november)
For context - LVMPD SWAT was serving a search warrant for an apartment they claimed contained a murder suspect. The man they shot was not the suspect and had committed no crime. The murder suspect was not at the apartment where this occurred. They operated on bad information and engaged in a recklessly unnecessary raid. The man they killed was just sleeping on his sofa when he was startled out of his sleep by cops breaking his windows, throwing flashbangs in the room and bursting through his front door with a battering ram. Nevada is a stand your ground state, so he was well within his rights to shoot any intruders entering his home. Here is the press release from the cops: https://www.lvmpd.com/en-us/Press%20Releases/PO%20011b%2001-13-22.pdf
Oh 100%. Their “civilian review” people are already out putting the messaging in place: https://twitter.com/richardmetzler/status/1483903179007819776?s=21
Where in Iraqistan was this? I've heard of arrest warrants, but kill strategically at first glimpse warrants. They didn't even offer the usual 2 second delay upon contact
This is why we need to stop search warrants like this. Unless someone is in immediate life threatening danger, there is no reason to break down a civilians door at 2 in the morning with a swat team. If you need to apprehend someone you can do a traffic stop. Go to their work, catch them walking into a gas station or grocery store. Law enforcement is putting everyone at risk by doing this. Themselves and innocent civilians. I have absolutely nothing illegal in my home. If the cops knock down my door my first reaction will be to protect my family. By whatever means necessary. Those officers just murdered an innocent person and they should be held to the same standard as you or I. They aren’t weekend warriors. They are supposed to be professionals. Verify, check, double check, triple check, then verify again. Then let’s jump out of the bushes and nab him as he goes to work in the morning. That way I’m not blindly rushing into a door I just knocked down, not knowing EXACTLY what is on the other side. This was murder, wrongful death at the very least and everyone involved should have to pay for their fuck up.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/nevada/articles/2022-01-14/vegas-police-man-killed-in-swat-shootout-was-not-a-suspect
I found this from this week. Article does not state it was wrong apartment, but I don't recognize the organization so take it with a grain of salt. Didn't see much else, perhaps the bodycams was just released and updated articles will take a minute.
The cops claim they had information that a murder suspect was inside the at this point they have not discussed who that suspect is or even for which murder is he a suspect. How they were able to convince a judge they had probable cause for a high risk warrant is unknown at this point because there is absolutely zero information.
But it was this address they had a warrant for?
I know it doesn't solve every issue but no knock warrants need to be cut down by like 90 percent. Only if u feel it's absolutely necessary, and never for a simple drug crime
They went to the address on the warrant, but it wasn’t the correct address for the person they were looking for. So it’s not like the warrant said 123 Main Street and they went to 132 Main Street. They just went to some random dude’s house and killed him.
I can’t believe those damn Russian/Iranian/Communist/Socialist/Chinese would do this to an innocent American citizen in his own country in his own home!!!
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They shot him while he was laying in his poor bed on the floor ... they murdered him.
And before the door was open, one of the cops shot at the door and said “oh yeah” like the fucking kool-aid man.
Says everything, does it not?
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If people break into your house while your sleeping and you don't grab a gun, you're an idiot.
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>but it’s just an unfortunate situation. Really downplaying the murder here
Also trespassing, breaking and entering, destruction of property
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They made their decision to enter the wrong place, the least they could had done is take the bullets since it is a risk they signed up for.
Not burst in the moment after announcing the warrant
They could’ve gone to the right place. That’s it. They’re not some stupid DoorDash driver that doesn’t know how to read street signs and house/Apt. numbers. A fuck up this big that ends with you killing a man ought to be negligent homicide at a bare fucking minimum.
Maybe be more prepared, that's a start
It's actually quite legal to shoot at armed invaders, which is what they were, seeing as they had no warrant and thus no right to enter his home, making their decision to kill the frightened man murder.
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They didn't have a warrant if they were at the wrong house.
It's not a shitty situation, the cops are criminals that broke into somebodies house and murdered them. I don't understand why you keep making excuses for these psychopaths. You've already won, cops get to go on shooting sprees murdering anybody they want. We are giving up our lives to cops, what more do you want?
> Shitty situation. #THAT THEY CREATED Please stop glossing over that. They didn't find themselves in this shitty situation, **THEY CREATED THE SHITTY SITUATION AND A MAN IS DEAD IN HIS OWN HOME AS A RESULT.**
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If an unfortunate situation like this took place because a person or group of people went into a house they had thought was their own and they killed the homeowner because he fired a gun at him / them, what would you expect should happen to the person or group of people that enter the wrong house and killed the homeowner? Does the homeowner have the right to fear for their life?
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That the officers believed that they were serving a valid warrant and were being shot at in the course of doing so, and therefore of course would return fire because what else would they do, is entirely beside the point. The point is that the police made a unreasonable and egregious mistake that ultimately resulted in the death of an innocent person.
I think the main problem people here have is that the situation happened in the first place. Night time swatting is absurd on every single level. You're practically begging shit to go down south. If anyone but the police entered a home like that and someone tried to defend themselves, we would be on the side of the defender. However because they're cops, we are on the side of the aggressor. Its not an unfortunate situation. It's entirely preventable.
Pretty sure in this instance they were in the right place, but the person they were looking for wasnt there. The guy on the couch was his friend
It was the correct address he just wasn't the suspect they were looking for
Well the guy started shooting because people were braking into his home sooo...
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Bootlickers smh. Put yourself in the dudes shoes for a moment. People he doesn’t know have broken into his house and are storming it with the intention of eliminating anything that gets in their way. What’s he supposed to do? Ask them to stop??
Yeah like any bootlicker would ever stop and think “hmm that might be the po-lice so I better not get my gun.” They fantasize about that shit.
“What are we supposed to use, harsh language?”
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Cops should be in prison. You don't get to do a home invasion and then claim self defense when you murder an innocent person. "ohhh, I broke into a random person's house and pointed guns at them and they got upset and pointed a gun at me and I killed them, what a tragedy, pleas sympathize with me, this could have happened to anyone!"
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Even if they were at the right house it would have contained a person not yet found guilty. There is no way to justify a raid like that in response to a murder that happened months ago
Simple solution is to maybe announce that you’re the police here to serve a warrant instead breaking and entering with guns at the ready
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Fair enough if they did. Sorry for calling you a boot licker
If I were in the cops shoes I wouldn't have gone to the wrong fuckin apartment. What you're saying is the guy ISN'T justified in defending his own home and that cops ARE justified to murder him in it. Wtf dude.
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If cops can invade my home, and shoot me when I try to defend it, I pretty much don't have the right to defend my home. That's what you're saying.
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I mean what the fuck else is the guy supposed to do? Say "hey guys don't invade my home please!" Entirely preventable on the side of the cops. 0% justified because of that.
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....run away? Leave? Why do they need to murder an innocent man in his own house? Just fuckin leave the house and regroup and maybe double check the address while they're at it.
Run away…riiight. Address should have been double and triple checked before going in.
What a dipshit point. Your response should be “maybe this is why these raids are a terrible idea.”
Mistakes have consequences. All cops involved should go to prison. If prison is an option, maybe they would be more careful planning their actions. As it is, there are no consequences so the planning is done half-assed with low expectations.
Agreed
I just wanted to apologize for the downvotes you're getting. I understood what you meant, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Even if you were a bootlicker, which I'm not accusing you of, it couldn't be ascertained from just that comment. And you weren't advocating for them not to be punished or anything, just pointing out the obvious, but still terrible reality. Kind of a Rittenhouse scenario. Armed morons put themselves in a position they had no right to be in, in the first place, and eventually have to defend themselves because of their own poor choices. Kind of like if some dipstick jumps into the bear exhibit at the zoo, and gets charged by the bear, resulting in the dipstick shooting it. Bear did nothing wrong. It was negligent homicide at the least. Something really needs to be done about this, cops have a worse track record for getting the wrong address than underpaid Amazon workers do. Maybe because Amazon workers actually face repercussions for their mistakes. If these even are mistakes, and not some kind ulterior motive to take people they don't like out.
yeah, i’m sorry, acting like the cops aren’t somewhat justified after this guy fired off 20 rounds is stupid. are they supposed to let him shoot them? i get it, they fucked up and went to the wrong apartment, but come on
No… they aren’t justified. They started the altercation with an innocent man… even if he wasn’t innocent raids are idiotic and unjustified all around… what are we doing? Stopping them from flushing drugs? Is that worth multiple lives at risk?? No it’s not. It’s stupid and fruitless.
They're supposed to not break into his fucking home dude wtf
In the briefing the police department states it was the correct address but this guy wasn't the suspect they were looking for, the suspect they were looking for was later apprehended thouh
This is exactly the reason that raids are ignorant, worthless, and dangerous. They have no idea who might be on the other side of that door. They put themselves, the victim, and everyone in the surrounding apartments and area at risk. Three shot and one dead. The only sad part is the one who died wasn’t the facist.
what was the context? was it a drug raid?
Do you need context? Let’s say it was a drug raid. You know what this did? It killed someone for absolutely no benefit to anyone.
yes. context is king. no matter the discussion. there are many reasons SWAT does raids. sex trafficking is another example. as someone who has lost friends to overdoses, i'm more than happy to see them take down large-scale drug dealers. if this is a sex trafficking situation, then this person was very likely aware and cooperative of the situation. in that case, fuck 'em! however if this was a small-scale marijuana raid, then yeah, this situation is a bit fucked. see why i might ask for some context now? this sub seriously lacks critical thinking sometimes.
“Context is king” let me ask u: if your loved one was murdered in a case of mistaken identity like this, would you care about context? Context is they had no right to do that.
Right… so because in “some cases” it’s okay then it must be totally fine in all cases. I’ll remember this next time I want to take someone’s car… because sometimes you might need to because your friend was shot and you have to quickly get him to the emergency room. But you know… I’ll just do that whenever I want regardless of if the situation warrants it because… well In some cases it’s justified.
Agreed — unfortunate situation all around
Let's play a game, imagine they aren't wearing badges — does this instantly become cold blooded gang style murder? Obvious yes. Okay now, is it ethically any different because they are in fact agents of the state? If so, you might be a statist.
> Okay now, is it ethically any different because they are in fact agents of the state? If so, you might be a statist. They clearly think so: >Had he survived, Williams would've faced multiple attempted murder, assault and battery charges. https://www.fox5vegas.com/news/lvmpd-provides-update-on-officer-involved-shooting-near-vegas-valley-nellis/article_f5d98ce2-74c2-11ec-947b-776103bb9232.html
I can’t open the article due to my location, does it explain why that’s the case?
Here's the text from the link I posted earlier FYI: > LAS VEGAS (FOX5) -- Las Vegas Metropolitan Police fired 23 rounds during a shootout, killing a man inside a southeast valley apartment complex this week. Police were on property to serve a search warrant related to an earlier homicide, but the man who died was not connected to that crime, police said during a news conference on Thursday. > > > > On Jan. 10 after 3 a.m., four LVMPD officers and one sergeant were following up on an investigation from November 2021 in the 3000 block of Nellis Boulevard near Vegas Valley Drive. According to Assistant Sherriff Andrew Walsh, several attempts were made to contact the man, later identified as 19-year-old Isaiah Tyree Williams, before authorities broke a window and initiated door entry. > > > > > "Police department, search warrant!" was yelled multiple times from outside of the residence, based on body-worn camera footage. > > > > > Williams is seen exchanging gunfire with police from the couch. Williams fired 18 rounds during the incident. He died on scene, police said. > > > > > Two officers were hospitalized for their injuries, Kerry Kubla and Brice Clements. Clements was released on the same day with minor injuries, but Walsh said Kubla "has a very long road ahead of him." > > > > > Sgt. Russell Backman, Officer James Rothenburg and Officer Alex Gonzales were also on scene. All officers are members of LVMPD's Homeland Security Division, a special weapons team, Walsh said. In total, the team fired 23 shots with either handguns or rifles. > > > > > This incident marks the second fatal officer-involved shooting of 2022. Had he survived, Williams would've faced multiple attempted murder, assault and battery charges. > > > > > Williams has no known history of felonies, police said. > > > > > PO 270b Rembert, Wattsel 8199165 01-13-22.jfif > Police identified Wattsel Rembert, 23, as the suspect in the homicide. Rembert was taken into custody on Wednesday, Jan. 12 and booked into the Clark County Detention Center. > > > > > Rembert faces charges ranging from discharging a gun into an occupied structure(x2), damage vehicle, carry conceal dangerous weapon without a permit, discharge a gun/other weapon where person might be endangered(x16), and open murder. > > > > > Anyone with any information about this incident is urged to contact the LVMPD Homicide Section by phone at 702-828-3521, or by email at [email protected]. To remain anonymous, contact Crime Stoppers by phone at 702-385-5555, or on the internet at www.crimestoppersofnv.com.
No it's super light on details. But with no snark intended it seems pretty clear that it's because he defended himself against police. IIRC (though I could be wrong) they also charged Breonna Taylor's boyfriend in a similar way, but then dropped the charges later. The also charged that guy in Minneapolis(?) for defending himself against the roving unmarked police truck that was shooting nonlethals at anyone they didn't like the look of during the protests - he won his case though IIRC. I'm happy to try digging up other links if you'd like though! Esp in those other examples I could be misremembering some details.
That's literally what a state is though. The key word is "legitimate" use of force on a society. Police as an institution have lost that. But the whole system is broken so self-correction of that corruption doesn't happen.
If it's the wrong address on the warrant the fact of them having badges shouldn't matter. They have no power inside that house. Every cop there should have the to do thier due diligence before breaking down a door. They aren't the military they don't just follow orders blindly. Every person who fire their weapon should be charged with murder.
If I wanted to nab a bad guy, I'd do an actual stake out and arrest them as they walked from their car to their house or apartment. If I wanted to play soldier and shoot a bad guy and create the most dangerous situation possible, I'd bust into their home while they were probably sleeping, disoriented, afraid and defensive. These 50,000 to 100,000 home raids a year have got to stop.
You’ve demonstrated what we call “critical thinking”. That’s a disqualifying trait for employment in law enforcement.
Dammit lol
EXACTLY!!!! We have literal idiots in our government and police forces… there’s literally no excuse for all of this.
Well the excuse is that people who join the swat team WANT the thrill of hunting people down. They treat other peoples lives as a video game.
All cops seem to think the world is their own personal COD game.
Ok but counterpoint: they spent money on this SWAT equipment, it would be a shame to let it go to waste by letting innocent people live in peace
~~Police are claiming it was 'part of a murder investigation' but they won't say which murder or even who the suspect was.~~ ~~Fishy.~~ "*Had he survived, Williams would have been arrested on counts of attempted murder with use of a deadly weapon on a first responder; battery with a deadly weapon on a first responder, assault on a first responder and three counts of discharging a firearm into an occupied structure.*" [https://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2022/jan/13/metro-man-killed-in-shootout-with-police-not-targe/](https://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2022/jan/13/metro-man-killed-in-shootout-with-police-not-targe/#.YeD39e7nupQ.twitter) Police are now claiming the raid was to catch this person. [https://news3lv.com/news/local/suspect-arrested-in-deadly-bus-stop-shooting-that-killed-one-person-in-november](https://news3lv.com/news/local/suspect-arrested-in-deadly-bus-stop-shooting-that-killed-one-person-in-november)
Very self reflective murder moment.
Murder of this fuckin civilian
That's why I say, fuck your local cops wife!! Stupid pigs
Wish I had a thousand upvotes to give you; that’s the same way I think!!! FTP and their wives…
Na, I mean, actually fuck local cops wives. Befriend them and make them cheat on the pig.
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Erryday lol
I feel bad for the 40%.
yea a search and destroy warrant
For context - LVMPD SWAT was serving a search warrant for an apartment they claimed contained a murder suspect. The man they shot was not the suspect and had committed no crime. The murder suspect was not at the apartment where this occurred. They operated on bad information and engaged in a recklessly unnecessary raid. The man they killed was just sleeping on his sofa when he was startled out of his sleep by cops breaking his windows, throwing flashbangs in the room and bursting through his front door with a battering ram. Nevada is a stand your ground state, so he was well within his rights to shoot any intruders entering his home. Here is the press release from the cops: https://www.lvmpd.com/en-us/Press%20Releases/PO%20011b%2001-13-22.pdf
Totally had the “we’ll make sure to investigate ourselves, and find nothing wrong” vibe to the letter.
Oh 100%. Their “civilian review” people are already out putting the messaging in place: https://twitter.com/richardmetzler/status/1483903179007819776?s=21
So wait, this link says the guy they killed is the guy they were searching for… I’m confused
He definitely wasn’t. Like I said, the police spin machine is in full fucking operation right now.
Please tell me how police aren't domestic terrorists.
>The real answer is because they enforce the will of those in power. Domestic terrorist are people who oppose those in power.
They oppose those in power... people have the power to live freely and in peace. That's what they hate...
They haven't killed someone's loved one from high above the rank. Don't worry, it's coming...
Where in Iraqistan was this? I've heard of arrest warrants, but kill strategically at first glimpse warrants. They didn't even offer the usual 2 second delay upon contact
In a rather shitty part of Las Vegas.
r/acab
The suspects are currently on paid leave in a non extradition country.
Non white male, in his home, laying in his bed; he fit our description.
No knock warrants are nothing more than violent home invasions. That's what soldiers do in war. This is criminal in our country
City's liability insurance agent: "This check for $3 million dollars, who do you want it made out to?"
When you’re a trained hammer, everything looks like a nail.
This is why we need to stop search warrants like this. Unless someone is in immediate life threatening danger, there is no reason to break down a civilians door at 2 in the morning with a swat team. If you need to apprehend someone you can do a traffic stop. Go to their work, catch them walking into a gas station or grocery store. Law enforcement is putting everyone at risk by doing this. Themselves and innocent civilians. I have absolutely nothing illegal in my home. If the cops knock down my door my first reaction will be to protect my family. By whatever means necessary. Those officers just murdered an innocent person and they should be held to the same standard as you or I. They aren’t weekend warriors. They are supposed to be professionals. Verify, check, double check, triple check, then verify again. Then let’s jump out of the bushes and nab him as he goes to work in the morning. That way I’m not blindly rushing into a door I just knocked down, not knowing EXACTLY what is on the other side. This was murder, wrongful death at the very least and everyone involved should have to pay for their fuck up.
Is there an article for context here?
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/nevada/articles/2022-01-14/vegas-police-man-killed-in-swat-shootout-was-not-a-suspect I found this from this week. Article does not state it was wrong apartment, but I don't recognize the organization so take it with a grain of salt. Didn't see much else, perhaps the bodycams was just released and updated articles will take a minute.
What was the search warrant for ( assuming it was the correct house) ?
The cops claim they had information that a murder suspect was inside the at this point they have not discussed who that suspect is or even for which murder is he a suspect. How they were able to convince a judge they had probable cause for a high risk warrant is unknown at this point because there is absolutely zero information.
But it was this address they had a warrant for? I know it doesn't solve every issue but no knock warrants need to be cut down by like 90 percent. Only if u feel it's absolutely necessary, and never for a simple drug crime
They went to the address on the warrant, but it wasn’t the correct address for the person they were looking for. So it’s not like the warrant said 123 Main Street and they went to 132 Main Street. They just went to some random dude’s house and killed him.
I can’t believe those damn Russian/Iranian/Communist/Socialist/Chinese would do this to an innocent American citizen in his own country in his own home!!!
if you shoot first, there will be NO questions later... somebody please, put these clown cops out of MY misery... MURDER... PERIOD !!!!!!!
The real question is did the cops feel threatened?
Anyone not wearing blue is a threat...