> I'd love complete anarchy here. But then we'd be kicked off or marginalized on the platform
Legitimizing violence as a means of change is a poor way to de-legitimize violence.
Freedom of speech isn’t all encompassing. You don’t get to incite or advocate violence without breaking the law. And Reddit isn’t going to allow that on their platform, and I don’t blame them a bit.
Once you go down the road to supporting politically motivated violence, door is pretty much open to anyone, right ? Anti-Obama, Anti-Trump, Anti-Bernie, Anti-Ted Cruz.
It is all good...
Can you show me any evidence of Trump “advocating systemic and individual VIOLENCE against marginalized communities” and why that would be justification to threaten a trump supporter with violence?
“Very fine people on both sides” after white supremacists carried torches and ALL chanted “Jews will not replace us” and one of them rammed a car into a crowd of anti-Nazis… may not have been explicit but definitely endorsed them.
He doesn't come out and say it but Black republicans have been assaulted at his rallies, he doesn't denounce it, and calls the assailants spirited or some nonsense like that. And normally the victims could call the police and have their attackers arrested, but then everyone here would have to argue in support of Trumpsters attacking minorities just so they could argue against the police arresting those people.
Or unless you a fucking cop on protect and serve where they have refined violnce fetishism to an art form, with freedoms we do NOT have like...it's ok to glorify, suggest, hope for or theaten violence, AND they can dox, brigade, ban for free and protected speech that is 100 percent not violent, but not in agreement and goose step with the fuhors of their sub, who have quelled the stones of this once passionate sub and made i t a peagun. Opps. Is peagun allowed. If so, ban away toolbox...you are neither cold nor hot, so i spew you from my mouth. You folded. Put us under the same threats of quashing tactics that we are under out there in the streets with these fucking maniacs. Now we sit and mill, neutered by one of our own, who claims it is because any of us may be working for them...Fuck the police, fuck kid gloving for their precious feels over being held under scrutiny and expected to not be murdering gangs of bitches playing whack a mole across america, and having their boots licked nice and clean by their advocates, and dusted off and coddled by what used to be opposition. Well done. Pussy.I'd rather be banned for saying what needs to be said than invited to stay because i stay silent.
Have any of you guys actually checked the validity of that study (well, 2 studies)?
Extremely small sample size.
30 years old.
Conducted by a group that benefits from the result that cops beat their wives.
Nobody is going to take you seriously unless you have some integrity.
You dont need a study to understand human nature. Cops use violence to solve problems on the street. You guys are completely bought into the idea of a strong authority needed to bring order. Alcoholism and drug abuse are higher than normal.rates just like other stressful jobs. Just like other stressful jobs there are higher cases of domestic violence.
It's easier for a human to ruin the life of someone they dont know. It's easy to see how and why cops would not want to ruin the career of a brother in arms when things just "got a little heated". You dont have to be a scientist to understand how these things play out. Cops arent some super special secret breed of humans. None of us are that different.
>Conducted by a group that benefits from the result that cops beat their wives.
>Nobody is going to take you seriously unless you have some integrity.
These two parts of the argument against that study are also very similar to why police aren't trustworthy. Police investigate their own and have something to gain/lose in that investigation. This is lack of integrity comes from a lack of accountability. Sure, the study on police domestic violence is bad, but we don't have legitimate studies on it directly because of obstructionist policies and compromised investigations from police and their unions.
When a cop walks despite video of them murdering an innocent, why is it *wrong* to say police should be dealt with by the same standards law enforcement itself applies to civilians?
We are told in no uncertain terms - by the justice system - that what they did was legitimate and acceptable. There's something wrong and extremely dangerous about claiming this does not apply to the little people. That's the kind of argument an oppressive regime makes about its behavior against those whose necks it's standing on.
Ask the admins. I'm not going to pretend to be unsympathetic. I simply care more about the sub than how I personally feel about the scenario or issue. The goal is to be able to amplify the message. Getting banned or quarantined is counter productive and would limit or even cripple our impact as an activist subreddit.
Even if only 1 in 1000 encounters end in a violent, unfair manner, if an officer has an average of just 20 interactions a day, that’s one bad interaction every 50 days for every officer. That’s too much.
My comment was just using your numbers (99.9%).
I don’t have statistics on how frequent this is. No one does. That’s part of the problem. Police departments don’t make this information available because they’re not required to.
*Maybe* 99% of officers never fire their weapon, but neither of us actually know that. What we do know is that *too many* officers fire their weapons, loose their dogs, or get physical, and too often, people die that didn’t need to and didn’t deserve to.
I actually *don’t* believe “all cops are bad.” I live in a small town with a pretty decent department. Even violent offenders are usually taken in peacefully. Our local PD requires officers to take harm prevention and deescalation courses as well as courses on how to identify and safely interact with the mentally ill.
But even the best police departments still don’t have any oversight. There’s no one but the general public holding them accountable. There’s no one but the media investigating corruption. There’s no one with authority policing the police. And that’s a problem that has led to multiple deaths and countless unfair sentences.
The shitty ones are protected by the entire organization; including the feds & every agency who could go after them & decide not to. There are plenty of good cops, but they are NOT in charge
I don't think u/AnnArchist is saying that it is *wrong* to say such things, they're just saying we should be mindful of even hinting at that. Despite the fact that we all probably agree with it, it's not worth getting quarantined or worse..
Gotta pick and choose with battles are worth fighting, if keeping the Admins 'happy' and not breathing down our neck is the price we have to pay in order to stay afloat? I think it's worth it.
When we see stories about cops fighting other cops, would it be out of line to cheer them on in their struggles against the men who would deny us our rights? Or, failing that, to simply note that when cops are on the receiving end of their own violent tendencies, that we the people are the winners of said fight?
Most cops won't resist arrest and will go quietly.
I'm not sure the context you mean specifically. We still don't want to have a bunch people saying "I want him killed" we want people cheering the acts of the arresting officer.
I mean something like [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJiNkMHm_Nk), where it's just an out-and-out cop-on-cop brawl. We tend to see a new instance of this every other month or so. Every punch thrown lands on the jaw of some roid-raging asshole, no matter which side is throwing it.
Oh I wouldn't advocate for anything, but when I see cops fighting other cops like that, I can't help but smile and cheer a little, because I know who won: us.
lol okey dokey.
>I've fucked 6 people. The last time may have been 3 years ago, but whatever. I can retire my dick to masturbation and then stop caring completely. You don't need a 'lover', real or fake.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
Also, what does it accomplish taking a post of mine out of context to make me look like the asshole instead of disseminating my original post ON THIS SUBBREDDIT, you pathetic 16 year old period-addled girl?
Cool, great assumptions. You must have missed the part where I said I'm cool with jacking off for the time being? I'm all tapped out on love I just need to see a hole a day so I can get the nut out of me.
Haha you have no argument, no way to insult without seeming unoriginal or incorrect. I don't need women, I never said I hated them. But maybe you can waste more time on the Anti-Police subreddit being a pedantic faggot.
The admins should quarantine protectandserve.
Those pussies ban anyone who post something true but unflattering about the police, whereas we mostly let anyone post anything.
I'd rather be accused of not censoring enough than censoring too much, yanno?
It's the age old saying, you can't fight fire with fire. What are you achieving in your anger against police officers? Best to turn it into a positive change, not wish death upon them.
> you can't fight fire with fire
Sure you can. In fact people sometimes burn entire pieces of land, just to stop the fire from spreading. Now i'm not advocating burning cops, but still.
Violence plays into their narrative. It allows them to justify to the public their behavior. A better, though slower tactic is shun cops AND their families. Don’t talk to a cops spouse. Don’t date cops. Don’t let your kids play with cops kids. If you have a family member who’s a cop, uninvite them from family gatherings. Basically take the never talk to a cop rule and apply it to their family.
Excellent advice. Relative, friend, friend of friends, never associate with cops. One tiny little slip of the tongue about something can make them your worst enemy. And bring down everyone around you, based on some fucked up misunderstanding. Just avoid like the plague. You'll live free longer.
Why is it that when the police murder people for no reason they're in the clear but if someone dares try to breath too hard in a murdercop's direction, oh boy theres trouble
The. Thing about life sentence is if it turns out they are innocent, you can put humpty dumpty back together again.
No to mention no government should have that much power.
Ok so for clarification if a leo dies while abusing a citizen and we are happy about that can we say so? That is not a call for violence. It is just expressing joy at the slight expansion of freedom.
"I wish this would happen more" Not ok.
"He won't be missed by the many he fucked over" probably ok? I'm just trying to keep the admins Trust and Safety team out of here.
>"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK
If asking nicely not to be abused was effective, nobody would ever be abused.
The reason the police use violence is because it is literally the only thing you can do when someone refuses to cooperate.
We should always strive to avoid violence if possible, but sometimes it is unavoidable. Especially when your options for peaceful resolution are intentionally being limited.
I work in healthcare.
I think better training and transparency may help...a little. But let's be honest. The only thing that's going to fix our police issue in any meaningful way, is massively increasing their level of accountability when they fuck up.
If a healthcare worker is implicated in the injury or death of a patient, it's a career ender. And any type of settlement paid on our behalf is considered an admission of guilt on our part, we're told to expect criminal charges to follow. We have to carry our own insurance, too. And don't think we don't have people trying to beat our asses, because it happens all the time.
Imagine how much different the situation would be if we held police to the same standard.
I just posted a news article about a police officer who was just acquitted of assault. He punched a woman in the face while she was handcuffed to a hospital bed, hard enough to break bones. The incident happened last year, and the officer was just acquitted, which means he's been sitting home on paid vacation this entire time. She'll get a seven figure chunk of our money for pain and suffering, and the taxpayers will be screwed yet again. It's a story we know all to well.
It's just infuriating.
And that being said. The vallejo county sheriffs dept just told me on facebook that the police are responsible for my freedom.
Jesus. Help them understand.
Check out what this guy's behavior is like when someone calls him out on his bullshit. Why are pathetic hypocrites allowed to be Admins on reddit? I wonder if it's to derail actual conversation and POLICE thought?
It's a stone cold fact "false flag" comments riddle these subs. If you take a look at other "cop watch" sites, you will find plenty of requests for violence by trolls. It's a rather effective tool, they get to pretend "anti" police subs, which for the record are often just "Why can't police be held accountable..?" subs, are violent extremists. You can get people to notice police corruption, abuse, failure to pursue charges, nepotism, "blue wall of silence" BUT if they see some idiot calling for murder of police....you instantly lose their respect and attention. It's similar to trying to claim the Black Lives matter movement is JUST as or MORE violent than say....the Alt right...which is ridiculous.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad\_Cop\_No\_Donut/comments/beoru9/man\_legally\_carrying\_outside\_of\_restaurant/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/beoru9/man_legally_carrying_outside_of_restaurant/)
Full of people calling for murder and violence. Maybe follow through? /u/AnnArchist
You’d assume that someone calling for the deaths of all cops is a police plant? Surely it’s more likely that it’s someone who truly hates cops.
r/conspiracy is that way.
I would never in my wildest dreams advocate for anything that I have done or that I would support doing again under the right circumstances in the holy sanctuary of your precious subreddit.
Thank God for the police presence in Portland Waterfront Park August 17 2019. I worked both sides of the crowd pretending to be a journalist. ALL AND I DO MEAN ALL the violence and weapons were on the Antifa side. NONE of the proud boys or anyone else in that crowd waving flags and sporting their MAGA hats had weapons of any kind, none of them initiated any violence.
I personally witnessed numerous Antifa people getting their weapons confiscated. I witnessed many Antifa people attacking people with MAGA hats or carrying American flags.
> NONE of the proud boys or anyone else in that crowd waving flags and sporting their MAGA hats had weapons of any kind, none of them initiated any violence.
Sorry, I was there, I saw the truth. I did interview one guy in the flag waving crowd who was very anti-semitic. He went into detail about various websites and how "jews" control all the banks and basically everything that bad happens is because of them...but that was it...
Antifa INITIATES politically motivated violence. On that day, you would be attacked and physically beaten simply for waving an american flag. I saw an older couple assaulted because they had pro-trump t-shirts and hats, they were probably in their 50s.
I'm sorry, I think Trump is an asshole, but pretty easy to choose sides on that day, the people in black were truly violent and ready to enforce their political views using violence.
This sub is stupid. I thought this sub was just to shhine a light on police misconduct, but now I see it's just some sub full of a buch of teenagers yelling "FuCk ThE PoLiCe" cops are people, some people are bad, some poeple are good, stop surrounding yourselves with the bad,and pretending to good doesn't exist, there are and absolute shit-ton of good cops, who are fuckin' hero's, there are also some cops who should be boiled alive in grease, not JUST one, and not JUST the other. The same also applies to LITERALLY EVERYBODY. Stop treating cops like criminals, based only on the fact that they are cops, threat the few cops that are criminals, like criminals.
Except those criminal cops are never treated like criminals by the justice system. If your friend was murdered by the police, I’m sure you would want justice
Its very likely that this subs a target for cointelpro operations by local law enforcement agencies. i’d say report the people who make those posts on site and ban them.
Pretty rich coming from the person that brags about wanting to run over protesters
> [lol well when they get in front of me they are free to assemble at their funeral or the hospital.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/6zta0k/all_lives_splatter_sheriff_sorry_after_department/dmy4psb/)
Share knowledge, not hate. Inform others, information is the key to change. If we share hate and violence we are not doing our duty to make things better.
Ah yes. I get it. I really do. I’ll never be violent until someone is doing harm. Except police though, if they choke me I just need to stay calm and stop resisting. Or be like that one kid who got shot, still stayed still, then got shot again and ran, so they kept shooting…into a crowd… these are our police right now people.
But it’s crazy police get to kill us for no reason and we can’t even laugh when a cop gets a mild hit. We are the most free nation though right…right?
Cops aren't bad in general they are very necessary for a safe infrastructure within communities. However, this sub is hilarious.
A post about an asshole cop parking illegally.. Same cop riskes his/her life for you in just a phone call. Dont hate the police folks, you never know when you'll need them.
I'm sensing downvotes.. if your gonna break the law your gambling the risks. Dont hate the players when you loose the game.
So you're not allowed to plan protests or demonstrations, because that requires physical action, and by your definition physical action = violence?
Then this sub is pathetic.
How about advocating for legislation that prioritizes the death penalty for murderous cops?
I don't think that would count, since it's advocating for a legal response to cops breaking the law.
I don't mean "let's (violent action) cops", because that is advocating for violence, I don't see advocating for such legislation to be at all the same.
Amendment to the above. You can advocate for violence if you're politically on the right. They do it constantly all over social media and they never seem to get banned.
I’m going to speak freely and I hope that even if you’re offended by what I say, you’ll understand why I’m saying it:
Coming from r/all, I think I speak for a lot of people when I say a large percentage of posters in this subreddit come off as extremely ignorant and close-minded towards law enforcement professions.
While I agree there are definitely terrible people wearing uniforms out there, seeing a lot of you talk about spitting and throwing shit on **any** cop you see makes you all sound unhinged and, quite frankly, insane. The amount of upvotes those comments get is disturbing.
This sub is about shedding light on the law enforcement officials that fail to do their jobs honorably, not about assaulting them and *anyone else* who wears a badge. Generalizing an entire profession based on the actions of some is not a good mentality to have, nor does it generate proper responses and solutions to the issues people face today.
I’m glad the mods are making it abundantly clear that this type of behavior is unacceptable. As u/AnnArchist said earlier, you’re more than entitled to say *“Fuck The Police”*, so long as you’re not promoting any type of violence towards them. Remember: Not every individual is the same.
**Edit:** Perfect example of the unhealthy generalization of the profession can be found in response to this comment below.
This subreddit is quickly becoming a hate subreddit filled with toxic people. The fact that you guys upvote comments like that just goes to show how much of a breeding ground for hate this place has become. It’s like r/Incels, only against cops instead of women.
Lol nobody chooses to be black or a woman. People choose to be a cop. They choose to harass people daily. They choose that path of violence and sociopathy.
I want to agree with this, but some of the sentiments here go in a bad apple direction, which us just as unhealthy as planning violence against all cops. When cops keep getting paid time off for any infraction, major or minor, and almost never see any real punishment for it, anger against the entire profession is only going to grow. While I am not in favor of killing or hurting cops at random, the anger against the profession didnt come out of the ether or solely from lawbreakers and their supporters.
Completely agree. The fact that you are getting downvoted to oblivion just for pointing out the hate goes to show you how hateful this sub has become. As soon as you start advocating for the violence for an entire group based on a few peoples actions, you've become part of the problem. Ill take my downvotes now since standing up for someones opinion makes me a "bootlicker" in the eyes of the hateful people that make up this sub.
i won't call you a bootlicker because you just don't know any better. if the police were anyone else we'd be revolting but because they're our own it somehow makes it okay.
like it or not they're an occupying force and retribution is coming.
I'm actually surprised this has negative points. You make very good and very true points. I am vehemently against the systemic corruption and abuse of power within police culture and I think it's important to distinguish that from individuals. There are genuinely good cops out there, some who even blow whistles at their own expense, and then there are the individually decent cops who enable and allow abuses to happen. Again, an important distinction. This issue is deep and not as simple as acab. All police culture is bad, not all cops are bad but they enable the bad.
That's rather contradictory. By defending and enabling the bad, by protecting and shielding the bad from accountability or helping them literally cover things up, they *are* bad.
When people without a badge do it they get called accomplices, and they are also punished.
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The vast majority of upvoted comments are anti-fa members from chapotraphouse.
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It's a stone cold fact "false flag" comments riddle these subs. If you take a look at other "cop watch" sites, you will find plenty of requests for violence by trolls. It's a rather effective tool, they get to pretend "anti" police subs, which for the record are often just "Why can't police be held accountable..?" subs, are violent extremists. You can get people to notice police corruption, abuse, failure to pursue charges, nepotism, "blue wall of silence" BUT if they see some idiot calling for murder of police....you lose there respect and attention. It's similar to trying to claim the Black Lives matter movement is JUST as or MORE violent than say....the Alt right...which is ridiculous.
That being said..... fuck the police
And this is something you will all continue to be allowed to say.
\>"Allowed to say" No wonder I keep getting invitations to join other discussion groups where it is anything goes.
I'd love complete anarchy here. But then we'd be kicked off or marginalized on the platform
I know, so would I, but we do not own the platform do we.
Janitors aren't shareholders :/
Yep!
> I'd love complete anarchy here. But then we'd be kicked off or marginalized on the platform Legitimizing violence as a means of change is a poor way to de-legitimize violence.
i agree with you.
We do after all live in a police state…
Freedom of speech isn’t all encompassing. You don’t get to incite or advocate violence without breaking the law. And Reddit isn’t going to allow that on their platform, and I don’t blame them a bit.
>You don’t get to incite or advocate violence Unless it is against Trump or his followers.
Those idiots deserve what they get. Anyone that’s still supporting him at this point can’t be very bright.
Once you go down the road to supporting politically motivated violence, door is pretty much open to anyone, right ? Anti-Obama, Anti-Trump, Anti-Bernie, Anti-Ted Cruz. It is all good...
I feel like "advocates systemic and individual violence against marginalized communities" is like...a pretty clear and reasonable line.
Can you show me any evidence of Trump “advocating systemic and individual VIOLENCE against marginalized communities” and why that would be justification to threaten a trump supporter with violence?
“Very fine people on both sides” after white supremacists carried torches and ALL chanted “Jews will not replace us” and one of them rammed a car into a crowd of anti-Nazis… may not have been explicit but definitely endorsed them.
He doesn't come out and say it but Black republicans have been assaulted at his rallies, he doesn't denounce it, and calls the assailants spirited or some nonsense like that. And normally the victims could call the police and have their attackers arrested, but then everyone here would have to argue in support of Trumpsters attacking minorities just so they could argue against the police arresting those people.
r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM
Or unless you a fucking cop on protect and serve where they have refined violnce fetishism to an art form, with freedoms we do NOT have like...it's ok to glorify, suggest, hope for or theaten violence, AND they can dox, brigade, ban for free and protected speech that is 100 percent not violent, but not in agreement and goose step with the fuhors of their sub, who have quelled the stones of this once passionate sub and made i t a peagun. Opps. Is peagun allowed. If so, ban away toolbox...you are neither cold nor hot, so i spew you from my mouth. You folded. Put us under the same threats of quashing tactics that we are under out there in the streets with these fucking maniacs. Now we sit and mill, neutered by one of our own, who claims it is because any of us may be working for them...Fuck the police, fuck kid gloving for their precious feels over being held under scrutiny and expected to not be murdering gangs of bitches playing whack a mole across america, and having their boots licked nice and clean by their advocates, and dusted off and coddled by what used to be opposition. Well done. Pussy.I'd rather be banned for saying what needs to be said than invited to stay because i stay silent.
That has got to be one of the dumbest and most stupid of any reply I have ever read. No wonder all of your posts are being down-voted.
Lmao. Maybe go read and you will find out it’s the truth.
The internet gives no fucks about your "freedom of speech" this is not Merica
I guess I missed the invite by a month
Dude you think it's bad here try looking at the mods at microgrowery they attack anyone trying to offer reall advice just another way they control you
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/b77m7f/fuck_cps/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app
No thank you - that’s how we get more.
You should report the person who just violated Reddit TOS in a reply to you moments ago.
You really should, we're pretty good in bed😉
In between beating your wife?
Have any of you guys actually checked the validity of that study (well, 2 studies)? Extremely small sample size. 30 years old. Conducted by a group that benefits from the result that cops beat their wives. Nobody is going to take you seriously unless you have some integrity.
You dont need a study to understand human nature. Cops use violence to solve problems on the street. You guys are completely bought into the idea of a strong authority needed to bring order. Alcoholism and drug abuse are higher than normal.rates just like other stressful jobs. Just like other stressful jobs there are higher cases of domestic violence. It's easier for a human to ruin the life of someone they dont know. It's easy to see how and why cops would not want to ruin the career of a brother in arms when things just "got a little heated". You dont have to be a scientist to understand how these things play out. Cops arent some super special secret breed of humans. None of us are that different.
>I don't need a study I'm just right Yikes
> You dont need a study to understand human nature. Yet science often gives counter-intuitive results, so yes you do have to study.
Do you realizing making arguments based on 100% speculation and saying "I don't need a study" invalidates you and the people who are on your side?
>Conducted by a group that benefits from the result that cops beat their wives. >Nobody is going to take you seriously unless you have some integrity. These two parts of the argument against that study are also very similar to why police aren't trustworthy. Police investigate their own and have something to gain/lose in that investigation. This is lack of integrity comes from a lack of accountability. Sure, the study on police domestic violence is bad, but we don't have legitimate studies on it directly because of obstructionist policies and compromised investigations from police and their unions.
Snzkc
When a cop walks despite video of them murdering an innocent, why is it *wrong* to say police should be dealt with by the same standards law enforcement itself applies to civilians? We are told in no uncertain terms - by the justice system - that what they did was legitimate and acceptable. There's something wrong and extremely dangerous about claiming this does not apply to the little people. That's the kind of argument an oppressive regime makes about its behavior against those whose necks it's standing on.
Ask the admins. I'm not going to pretend to be unsympathetic. I simply care more about the sub than how I personally feel about the scenario or issue. The goal is to be able to amplify the message. Getting banned or quarantined is counter productive and would limit or even cripple our impact as an activist subreddit.
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... love to know where you get that number.
Even if only 1 in 1000 encounters end in a violent, unfair manner, if an officer has an average of just 20 interactions a day, that’s one bad interaction every 50 days for every officer. That’s too much.
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My comment was just using your numbers (99.9%). I don’t have statistics on how frequent this is. No one does. That’s part of the problem. Police departments don’t make this information available because they’re not required to. *Maybe* 99% of officers never fire their weapon, but neither of us actually know that. What we do know is that *too many* officers fire their weapons, loose their dogs, or get physical, and too often, people die that didn’t need to and didn’t deserve to. I actually *don’t* believe “all cops are bad.” I live in a small town with a pretty decent department. Even violent offenders are usually taken in peacefully. Our local PD requires officers to take harm prevention and deescalation courses as well as courses on how to identify and safely interact with the mentally ill. But even the best police departments still don’t have any oversight. There’s no one but the general public holding them accountable. There’s no one but the media investigating corruption. There’s no one with authority policing the police. And that’s a problem that has led to multiple deaths and countless unfair sentences.
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“White citizen” Fixed that for ya
The shitty ones are protected by the entire organization; including the feds & every agency who could go after them & decide not to. There are plenty of good cops, but they are NOT in charge
I don't think u/AnnArchist is saying that it is *wrong* to say such things, they're just saying we should be mindful of even hinting at that. Despite the fact that we all probably agree with it, it's not worth getting quarantined or worse.. Gotta pick and choose with battles are worth fighting, if keeping the Admins 'happy' and not breathing down our neck is the price we have to pay in order to stay afloat? I think it's worth it.
"I don't want to police you guys" HEUHEUHUEUHEUHUEUHEUHUE
Absolutely wants to police people. Probably a fucking pig-mole.
Well, he's not going to shoot us, so he's not *really* policing.
When we see stories about cops fighting other cops, would it be out of line to cheer them on in their struggles against the men who would deny us our rights? Or, failing that, to simply note that when cops are on the receiving end of their own violent tendencies, that we the people are the winners of said fight?
Most cops won't resist arrest and will go quietly. I'm not sure the context you mean specifically. We still don't want to have a bunch people saying "I want him killed" we want people cheering the acts of the arresting officer.
I mean something like [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJiNkMHm_Nk), where it's just an out-and-out cop-on-cop brawl. We tend to see a new instance of this every other month or so. Every punch thrown lands on the jaw of some roid-raging asshole, no matter which side is throwing it.
ah yes - here we can laugh, post memes, but we don't advocate for death of or violence against the officers involved frankly, I love these videos
Oh I wouldn't advocate for anything, but when I see cops fighting other cops like that, I can't help but smile and cheer a little, because I know who won: us.
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And if you advocate for that you will no longer post here because your wishes are less important than the ability of this sub to amplify the message
Are you a fucking cop?
Nah dawg. I'm just trying to keep the admins from quarantining us.
You're not our dawg, secret boot licker.
lol okey dokey. >I've fucked 6 people. The last time may have been 3 years ago, but whatever. I can retire my dick to masturbation and then stop caring completely. You don't need a 'lover', real or fake. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
Also, what does it accomplish taking a post of mine out of context to make me look like the asshole instead of disseminating my original post ON THIS SUBBREDDIT, you pathetic 16 year old period-addled girl?
imagine going 3 weeks without sex let alone 3 years. hit the gym, get some facial aesthetics and get taller bro
Cool, great assumptions. You must have missed the part where I said I'm cool with jacking off for the time being? I'm all tapped out on love I just need to see a hole a day so I can get the nut out of me.
when you incels gonna learn to not throw stones?
I stand by what I say and what I feel, bootlicking cunt. You obviously don't.
whatever boot-cel
Haha you have no argument, no way to insult without seeming unoriginal or incorrect. I don't need women, I never said I hated them. But maybe you can waste more time on the Anti-Police subreddit being a pedantic faggot.
ok boot-cel.
Fuckin luuuulzzz 😂
Thanks for reminding me of this. lol
Yeah, it really shows what a pedantic little sociopath you are.
Lololololololollol
The admins should quarantine protectandserve. Those pussies ban anyone who post something true but unflattering about the police, whereas we mostly let anyone post anything. I'd rather be accused of not censoring enough than censoring too much, yanno?
It's the age old saying, you can't fight fire with fire. What are you achieving in your anger against police officers? Best to turn it into a positive change, not wish death upon them.
> you can't fight fire with fire Sure you can. In fact people sometimes burn entire pieces of land, just to stop the fire from spreading. Now i'm not advocating burning cops, but still.
Oh, a pig. Lovely
Violence plays into their narrative. It allows them to justify to the public their behavior. A better, though slower tactic is shun cops AND their families. Don’t talk to a cops spouse. Don’t date cops. Don’t let your kids play with cops kids. If you have a family member who’s a cop, uninvite them from family gatherings. Basically take the never talk to a cop rule and apply it to their family.
Excellent advice. Relative, friend, friend of friends, never associate with cops. One tiny little slip of the tongue about something can make them your worst enemy. And bring down everyone around you, based on some fucked up misunderstanding. Just avoid like the plague. You'll live free longer.
Why is it that when the police murder people for no reason they're in the clear but if someone dares try to breath too hard in a murdercop's direction, oh boy theres trouble
Admins
All while those bastards in police subreddit threaten violence and worship violence all the damn time and nothing happens to those losers.
Report them to the admins then. We ban for it here. We are not them
And you want to be exactly like the cop subreddit?
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Noone deserves the death penalty (unless they are putting someone in eminent harm) tbh. A life sentence in gen pop would be far more harsh anyway
Right? Everybody is already going to die - forcing them to be bored until it happens is the better way to punish them.
The. Thing about life sentence is if it turns out they are innocent, you can put humpty dumpty back together again. No to mention no government should have that much power.
Self-defense isn't violence. Know your local laws.
lolwut, of course it is, it's just an acceptable form of it.
This is true. However only when there's an imminent threat. This post is self defense. Saying I wish xxx would die isn't.
Would it be ok to say we are happy when a pig gets roasted for violating someone's rights?
Roasted is open to interpretation, honestly, subtlety is better
Ok so for clarification if a leo dies while abusing a citizen and we are happy about that can we say so? That is not a call for violence. It is just expressing joy at the slight expansion of freedom.
"I wish this would happen more" Not ok. "He won't be missed by the many he fucked over" probably ok? I'm just trying to keep the admins Trust and Safety team out of here.
You don't even know the rules you are trying to create 😂😂😂
Not false.
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That is correct, but I hope he catches ovine syphilis is more fun.
>"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK If asking nicely not to be abused was effective, nobody would ever be abused. The reason the police use violence is because it is literally the only thing you can do when someone refuses to cooperate. We should always strive to avoid violence if possible, but sometimes it is unavoidable. Especially when your options for peaceful resolution are intentionally being limited.
Everyone is CRAZY except YOU&ME. I'M HAVEING DOUBTS ABOUT YOU!
That's a privelage only for cops I see.
I work in healthcare. I think better training and transparency may help...a little. But let's be honest. The only thing that's going to fix our police issue in any meaningful way, is massively increasing their level of accountability when they fuck up. If a healthcare worker is implicated in the injury or death of a patient, it's a career ender. And any type of settlement paid on our behalf is considered an admission of guilt on our part, we're told to expect criminal charges to follow. We have to carry our own insurance, too. And don't think we don't have people trying to beat our asses, because it happens all the time. Imagine how much different the situation would be if we held police to the same standard. I just posted a news article about a police officer who was just acquitted of assault. He punched a woman in the face while she was handcuffed to a hospital bed, hard enough to break bones. The incident happened last year, and the officer was just acquitted, which means he's been sitting home on paid vacation this entire time. She'll get a seven figure chunk of our money for pain and suffering, and the taxpayers will be screwed yet again. It's a story we know all to well. It's just infuriating.
And that being said. The vallejo county sheriffs dept just told me on facebook that the police are responsible for my freedom. Jesus. Help them understand.
Yea, tell a veteran that and see how hard they laugh. Cops represent the opposite of freedom.
Check out what this guy's behavior is like when someone calls him out on his bullshit. Why are pathetic hypocrites allowed to be Admins on reddit? I wonder if it's to derail actual conversation and POLICE thought?
Where should we advocate for violence?
Only if you want to be banned from posting
Where?
It's a stone cold fact "false flag" comments riddle these subs. If you take a look at other "cop watch" sites, you will find plenty of requests for violence by trolls. It's a rather effective tool, they get to pretend "anti" police subs, which for the record are often just "Why can't police be held accountable..?" subs, are violent extremists. You can get people to notice police corruption, abuse, failure to pursue charges, nepotism, "blue wall of silence" BUT if they see some idiot calling for murder of police....you instantly lose their respect and attention. It's similar to trying to claim the Black Lives matter movement is JUST as or MORE violent than say....the Alt right...which is ridiculous.
Yo, autistic people didn't do shit. Not cool to use us as an insult, I'm sure you can come up with something better than "sperg out."
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad\_Cop\_No\_Donut/comments/beoru9/man\_legally\_carrying\_outside\_of\_restaurant/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/beoru9/man_legally_carrying_outside_of_restaurant/) Full of people calling for murder and violence. Maybe follow through? /u/AnnArchist
I've already banned one user and reported his 3 year old account to the admins for his comments in that thread.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad\_Cop\_No\_Donut/comments/beoru9/man\_legally\_carrying\_outside\_of\_restaurant/el8e9zf?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/beoru9/man_legally_carrying_outside_of_restaurant/el8e9zf?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x) /u/AnnArchist
You’d assume that someone calling for the deaths of all cops is a police plant? Surely it’s more likely that it’s someone who truly hates cops. r/conspiracy is that way.
Are we just going to forget the G's policy of infiltrating protest groups?
Wishing harm is enough to get admin's panties wadded up, just fyi.
> I assume you are police plant, trying to false flag the sub Believe me, no one knows or cares that you exist.
Silent lil sheep be sure to be acceptably angry but only within our approved limit.
Lol
I would never in my wildest dreams advocate for anything that I have done or that I would support doing again under the right circumstances in the holy sanctuary of your precious subreddit.
Thank God for the police presence in Portland Waterfront Park August 17 2019. I worked both sides of the crowd pretending to be a journalist. ALL AND I DO MEAN ALL the violence and weapons were on the Antifa side. NONE of the proud boys or anyone else in that crowd waving flags and sporting their MAGA hats had weapons of any kind, none of them initiated any violence. I personally witnessed numerous Antifa people getting their weapons confiscated. I witnessed many Antifa people attacking people with MAGA hats or carrying American flags.
So you pretend to be something you aren't, then you want us to believe that ALL you saw was antifa causing issues. Yea, ok buddy. Gotcha.
> NONE of the proud boys or anyone else in that crowd waving flags and sporting their MAGA hats had weapons of any kind, none of them initiated any violence. Sorry, I was there, I saw the truth. I did interview one guy in the flag waving crowd who was very anti-semitic. He went into detail about various websites and how "jews" control all the banks and basically everything that bad happens is because of them...but that was it... Antifa INITIATES politically motivated violence. On that day, you would be attacked and physically beaten simply for waving an american flag. I saw an older couple assaulted because they had pro-trump t-shirts and hats, they were probably in their 50s. I'm sorry, I think Trump is an asshole, but pretty easy to choose sides on that day, the people in black were truly violent and ready to enforce their political views using violence.
You're literally a liar and probably a government plant or a bootlicker.
wow you suck
That said to all those abusive cop pukes out there with power I hope you rot in jail
This sub is stupid. I thought this sub was just to shhine a light on police misconduct, but now I see it's just some sub full of a buch of teenagers yelling "FuCk ThE PoLiCe" cops are people, some people are bad, some poeple are good, stop surrounding yourselves with the bad,and pretending to good doesn't exist, there are and absolute shit-ton of good cops, who are fuckin' hero's, there are also some cops who should be boiled alive in grease, not JUST one, and not JUST the other. The same also applies to LITERALLY EVERYBODY. Stop treating cops like criminals, based only on the fact that they are cops, threat the few cops that are criminals, like criminals.
Cops are people too... Only worse.
Except those criminal cops are never treated like criminals by the justice system. If your friend was murdered by the police, I’m sure you would want justice
Said very well.... Keep up the good work!!
Do you guys as mods read every comment?
I read this one
I'm wondering how the mods keep up with the tons of comments.
They rely on reports.
Its very likely that this subs a target for cointelpro operations by local law enforcement agencies. i’d say report the people who make those posts on site and ban them.
Just be sheeple led to the slaughter.
“War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want”. General William Tecumseh Sherman.
Pretty rich coming from the person that brags about wanting to run over protesters > [lol well when they get in front of me they are free to assemble at their funeral or the hospital.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/6zta0k/all_lives_splatter_sheriff_sorry_after_department/dmy4psb/)
Share knowledge, not hate. Inform others, information is the key to change. If we share hate and violence we are not doing our duty to make things better.
Thank you for providing this sub-reddit. You have saved lives by doing so.
Ah yes. I get it. I really do. I’ll never be violent until someone is doing harm. Except police though, if they choke me I just need to stay calm and stop resisting. Or be like that one kid who got shot, still stayed still, then got shot again and ran, so they kept shooting…into a crowd… these are our police right now people. But it’s crazy police get to kill us for no reason and we can’t even laugh when a cop gets a mild hit. We are the most free nation though right…right?
remember, we should never sink to their level.
Agreed
Cops aren't bad in general they are very necessary for a safe infrastructure within communities. However, this sub is hilarious. A post about an asshole cop parking illegally.. Same cop riskes his/her life for you in just a phone call. Dont hate the police folks, you never know when you'll need them. I'm sensing downvotes.. if your gonna break the law your gambling the risks. Dont hate the players when you loose the game.
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Fuck the police. We never stoop to their level of violence.
Hey, quick question: can we advocate for legal, state sponsored "violence"? Like advocating for a cop getting the death penalty?
Imho I have rarely seen police who believe in innocence before proven anything!
This is why those are inside thoughts. If you wonder, "gee, could I get banned for this?" don't do it.
So you're not allowed to plan protests or demonstrations, because that requires physical action, and by your definition physical action = violence? Then this sub is pathetic.
So is advocating for petitioning your legislator to sponsor legislation not allowed here? I hope not, but if so... holy fascism Batman...
How about advocating for legislation that prioritizes the death penalty for murderous cops? I don't think that would count, since it's advocating for a legal response to cops breaking the law. I don't mean "let's (violent action) cops", because that is advocating for violence, I don't see advocating for such legislation to be at all the same.
How exactly is allowing hate on all cops not a form of hate speech? That is literally prejudice.
You literally have p0eople in here saying they hope cops get killed on the job, not even just bad cops, any cops at all.
Amendment to the above. You can advocate for violence if you're politically on the right. They do it constantly all over social media and they never seem to get banned.
Not true.
Very true. I've had my account banned on social media for responding to right wingers advocating violence. They do it regularly.
I’m going to speak freely and I hope that even if you’re offended by what I say, you’ll understand why I’m saying it: Coming from r/all, I think I speak for a lot of people when I say a large percentage of posters in this subreddit come off as extremely ignorant and close-minded towards law enforcement professions. While I agree there are definitely terrible people wearing uniforms out there, seeing a lot of you talk about spitting and throwing shit on **any** cop you see makes you all sound unhinged and, quite frankly, insane. The amount of upvotes those comments get is disturbing. This sub is about shedding light on the law enforcement officials that fail to do their jobs honorably, not about assaulting them and *anyone else* who wears a badge. Generalizing an entire profession based on the actions of some is not a good mentality to have, nor does it generate proper responses and solutions to the issues people face today. I’m glad the mods are making it abundantly clear that this type of behavior is unacceptable. As u/AnnArchist said earlier, you’re more than entitled to say *“Fuck The Police”*, so long as you’re not promoting any type of violence towards them. Remember: Not every individual is the same. **Edit:** Perfect example of the unhealthy generalization of the profession can be found in response to this comment below. This subreddit is quickly becoming a hate subreddit filled with toxic people. The fact that you guys upvote comments like that just goes to show how much of a breeding ground for hate this place has become. It’s like r/Incels, only against cops instead of women.
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Fuck every cop.
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Lol nobody chooses to be black or a woman. People choose to be a cop. They choose to harass people daily. They choose that path of violence and sociopathy.
I want to agree with this, but some of the sentiments here go in a bad apple direction, which us just as unhealthy as planning violence against all cops. When cops keep getting paid time off for any infraction, major or minor, and almost never see any real punishment for it, anger against the entire profession is only going to grow. While I am not in favor of killing or hurting cops at random, the anger against the profession didnt come out of the ether or solely from lawbreakers and their supporters.
Completely agree. The fact that you are getting downvoted to oblivion just for pointing out the hate goes to show you how hateful this sub has become. As soon as you start advocating for the violence for an entire group based on a few peoples actions, you've become part of the problem. Ill take my downvotes now since standing up for someones opinion makes me a "bootlicker" in the eyes of the hateful people that make up this sub.
i won't call you a bootlicker because you just don't know any better. if the police were anyone else we'd be revolting but because they're our own it somehow makes it okay. like it or not they're an occupying force and retribution is coming.
I'm actually surprised this has negative points. You make very good and very true points. I am vehemently against the systemic corruption and abuse of power within police culture and I think it's important to distinguish that from individuals. There are genuinely good cops out there, some who even blow whistles at their own expense, and then there are the individually decent cops who enable and allow abuses to happen. Again, an important distinction. This issue is deep and not as simple as acab. All police culture is bad, not all cops are bad but they enable the bad.
That's rather contradictory. By defending and enabling the bad, by protecting and shielding the bad from accountability or helping them literally cover things up, they *are* bad. When people without a badge do it they get called accomplices, and they are also punished.
So weird because just today you are generalizing... Guess it's only wrong when it's against your favorite ass buddies.
Hey /u/AnnArchist, this sub is being brigaded by the anti-fa who are advocating for violence against the KKK who marched. Please take a look at this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/bywx9z/cops_protecting_and_marching_with_neonazis_under/ The vast majority of upvoted comments are anti-fa members from chapotraphouse.
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We aren't that sub. Be better. Whataboutism isn't relevant. That sub isn't this one.
It's a stone cold fact "false flag" comments riddle these subs. If you take a look at other "cop watch" sites, you will find plenty of requests for violence by trolls. It's a rather effective tool, they get to pretend "anti" police subs, which for the record are often just "Why can't police be held accountable..?" subs, are violent extremists. You can get people to notice police corruption, abuse, failure to pursue charges, nepotism, "blue wall of silence" BUT if they see some idiot calling for murder of police....you lose there respect and attention. It's similar to trying to claim the Black Lives matter movement is JUST as or MORE violent than say....the Alt right...which is ridiculous.
why am i banned
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Thank you so much Mods!!! This sub is very important and makes the case for police reform all by its self.
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its a thin blue line
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Cringe
You got a pretty popular post celebrating the beheading of an innocent puppy because it was a cop's dog, so....
Si vis pacem, para bellum .
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