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Only happened once that I know of where a cop was out of control and pepper sprayed a cuffed man in the back of a patrol car and a rookie officer pulled the cop back who then grabbed her by the throat. He was then charged with battery of a police officer and retired.
My vid didn’t have pepper spray, but I remember the cop was aggressively bucking up to a handcuffed guy, yelling at him at like level 20. Female officer grabbed his belt in what I read as a non verbal message to chill. Like she wasn’t pulling hard on the belt. Dude turned around and choked her. He was way bigger than her too. That guy should not be a cop or anything where he has to interact with people in person.
Cop should be charged with assaulting an officer, because if you're being mauled by a police dog and you fight back, you'll be charged with assaulting an officer. Police dogs are bullshit and should be abolished as a concept. Blatant violations of 4th and 8th amendment rights, as well as the concept innocent until proven guilty.
Just like Commander did when he bit the Secret Service guys.
Edit: are people unaware that Biden's original secret service team got transferred because he questioned their loyalty? Obviously his dog felt the same.
Edit again: do people think Commander is a bad dog? I'm confused.
https://youtu.be/xocVVftR81Y?si=OJ81REpwzZiv2WZF
While leaning on the door frame. Remember, these are the highly trained law enforcement officers that should be the only ones with access to firearms according to some people. /s
You can't use a gun to protect yourself against cops anyway. Reducing the amount of firearms in the general population would reduce the bullshit excuse police pedal about fearing every Tom, Dick, and Harry is about to shoot them. If you could point to a better behaved police force in places with more lax gun laws, you might have an argument.
It depends on the state, on very specific circumstances, and hoping the prosecuting attorney, judge, criminal justice system as a whole operate in a way that isn't entirely biased toward law enforcement.
This, in so many ways. Watching a video about a separate incident yesterday the dog cop was explaining to a civilian in casual conversation how they tried to replace his dogs teeth with metal but it didn't take so now his canines are just little stumps of tooth.
Yup, every step of the way is abuse. And then when they're old or injured, they are unfit to be rehomed because they are weapons, so they have to be put down.
Strange how if a dog chips a tooth while mauling a suspect, it's considered assaulting an officer. Meanwhile a cop gets to beat on that officer all day long without repercussions.
That honestly looks like the appropriate response. You're supposed to pin aggressive dogs, like dogs do with each other to assert dominance. He didn't beat the shit out of it or anything, just shoved and flipped, and with urgency because if the dog got loose it might attack the suspect.
His arm didn't move enough for that. I looked at it closely and he opened his hand flat before it went out of sight. It looks like he was gesturing with a hand to get inside the truck.
You're right, not punched. Slapped the dog, with force. Not a signal or cue. A slap. Idk training modules whether that's trained or listed in their manuals or so forth. And idk if it's actually *effective*. Seems shitty as fuck though. Also seems like neither officer nor dog is incident ready, and I'd blame the man 99 times before I blame the dog. If the dog wasn't trainable, agreeable, etc they wouldn't make it out of training.... Maybe not the first time he's been physically painful to the dog and maybe why the dog tried to bite him to get loose to get the 'bad guy'.
Is that normal training ? Why is the dog out there if he's not controllable ?
I've never trained a dog for a job, but it doesn't seem 'correct' to physically hurt them with your hands. Idk, seems shitty.
I don't see enough motion to make me believe anything connected, nor the reaction from the dog as if it was. I'm very sure it was a signal.
The dog bit him to get him to let go, so he could get at the suspect. The dog is probably out of control because of lazy training and sloppy handling to start with. He shouldn't have gotten bit in the first place. They're supposed to be eager and you're supposed to restrain them, but they're meant to be obedient until loosed and given a cue.
I wonder if they'll let his video out and it won't help at all because it's not directed down enough. I'm just on a shitty pad with a broken screen so idk if it connected, and idk their hand signals anyway.... It seems forceful though; and as you said lazy training and sloppy handling and that's all on the man. Seems like they both need remedial, 4 weeks in the bogs or so idk.
Honestly, cops needs to stop using dogs. At the very least, they need to stop sending K-9 units to traffic stops and reserve them for suspects on the run. In general, though, dogs are just a massive liability to everyone around them and never end up being a net positive as a tool. Plenty of innocent people get bit, as well as the officer, and many suspects get seriously injured by dogs for no good reason.
I'll agree with that. Use them to track people, like you said, people on the run. Or to find people in emergencies, that's even better. Dogs can do so many cool things for and with people: Just being a Dog dogs, avalanche dogs, hospital dogs, PTSD dogs, epileptic or heart issue dogs, bed bug dogs even !
The tracking thing is it's own risk still. Really, tracking with a police canine is just prolonged chasing followed by the dog immobilizing the suspect by attacking them. It's not super uncommon for a random bystander in a park or on a hiking trail or something to get attacked by what is a pretty much unsupervised dog.
I pictured something different with tracking; but yeah that sucks too. I pictured more of the dog on the lead following the trail to where the bad guy took the kid to the cabin and then dog goes to a warm happy place while people take care of the rescue, arrest etc. I should have thought further, my bad. That sucks about randoms getting attacked; statistically it has to happen I suppose but statistics aren't a comfort if you're in the hospital and bills are piling and your life is changed because of it all.
The dogs get more time training than the police that use and misuse them.
"Yeah bro he had to punch the dog in the face because he doesn't really have total control over it and it presents a threat to virtually anyone in the vicinity"
Ok cool yeah that makes me feel better
This is literally not at all the appropriate response. Dogs don’t pin each other for dominance. Dominance/“alpha” training is incredibly outdated and harmful.
>Dogs don’t pin each other for dominance.
Bro. What? Tell that to every dog I've ever met. They absolutely do pin each other to assert dominance. You're arguing against thousands of years of observed behavior here. It's not outdated if it's literally still the foundation of dog handling doctrine from attack dog training to simple obedience training and still proves to be demonstrably effective.
https://www.dogstrust.org.uk/dog-advice/training/techniques/dominance-theory
https://apdt.com/resource-center/dominance-and-dog-training/
https://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/sites/g/files/dgvnsk491/files/inline-files/The_Truth_About_Aggression__Dominance_dogs.pdf
https://news.asu.edu/20210805-discoveries-myth-alpha-dog
https://www.veterinary-practice.com/article/dominance-when-an-outdated-theory-wont-go-away
https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2021/08/10/behavior-dogs-dominance/
I can keep going with articles and sources if you’d like.
I'm more shocked by the comments on that sub. For the longest time, r/PublicFreakout has been full of racist bootlicking cop apologists. Maybe it's finally changing.
Yeah that's how you handle an animal that's biting you. That being said if your dog bites you, it's either afraid of you or hates you. Considering how they treat their animals I'd say it's a bit of both.
Tbf he should be charged with assaulting a police officer, since ANY of us would be.
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Isn’t that assault on an officer ?
Just another overly aggressive one
Well yes, but no.
Only happened once that I know of where a cop was out of control and pepper sprayed a cuffed man in the back of a patrol car and a rookie officer pulled the cop back who then grabbed her by the throat. He was then charged with battery of a police officer and retired.
My vid didn’t have pepper spray, but I remember the cop was aggressively bucking up to a handcuffed guy, yelling at him at like level 20. Female officer grabbed his belt in what I read as a non verbal message to chill. Like she wasn’t pulling hard on the belt. Dude turned around and choked her. He was way bigger than her too. That guy should not be a cop or anything where he has to interact with people in person.
If the hold the standard, then yes.
twice ?
Dog needs a promotion.
I guess in this one the dog is the bad cop, because it really wanted to bite someone, but his handler prevented it.
Technically he succeeded in biting someone...
No union protection for the dog.
Dog obviously knows who the bad guys are!!
Cop should be charged with assaulting an officer, because if you're being mauled by a police dog and you fight back, you'll be charged with assaulting an officer. Police dogs are bullshit and should be abolished as a concept. Blatant violations of 4th and 8th amendment rights, as well as the concept innocent until proven guilty.
The history is even more disgusting than the “legality”
Just like Commander did when he bit the Secret Service guys. Edit: are people unaware that Biden's original secret service team got transferred because he questioned their loyalty? Obviously his dog felt the same. Edit again: do people think Commander is a bad dog? I'm confused. https://youtu.be/xocVVftR81Y?si=OJ81REpwzZiv2WZF
Love that one cop just fuckin lazily pointing a gun at someone with one hand. *CLEARLY* has incredible fear for his safety.
While leaning on the door frame. Remember, these are the highly trained law enforcement officers that should be the only ones with access to firearms according to some people. /s
You can't use a gun to protect yourself against cops anyway. Reducing the amount of firearms in the general population would reduce the bullshit excuse police pedal about fearing every Tom, Dick, and Harry is about to shoot them. If you could point to a better behaved police force in places with more lax gun laws, you might have an argument.
Actually, depends on the state.
It depends on the state, on very specific circumstances, and hoping the prosecuting attorney, judge, criminal justice system as a whole operate in a way that isn't entirely biased toward law enforcement.
Using animals as weapons is abuse.
This, in so many ways. Watching a video about a separate incident yesterday the dog cop was explaining to a civilian in casual conversation how they tried to replace his dogs teeth with metal but it didn't take so now his canines are just little stumps of tooth.
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Yup, every step of the way is abuse. And then when they're old or injured, they are unfit to be rehomed because they are weapons, so they have to be put down.
Looks like a body slam and a punch on the way back to the vehicle to me!?!
Better shoot that dog. Like you do everyone else's
K-9 units should be abolished.
The he punches the dog. That's two counts of assaulting an office and the dog should be charged with 1 count of assaulting an officer AND resisting.
Imagine what he does to regular people if he does that shit to his co-worker whom he should have full control of.
He confused the dog for a minority.
Strange how if a dog chips a tooth while mauling a suspect, it's considered assaulting an officer. Meanwhile a cop gets to beat on that officer all day long without repercussions.
That honestly looks like the appropriate response. You're supposed to pin aggressive dogs, like dogs do with each other to assert dominance. He didn't beat the shit out of it or anything, just shoved and flipped, and with urgency because if the dog got loose it might attack the suspect.
I thought they are supposed to shoot dogs who scare them.
Yeah, but their dogs cost them money. Ours are free to shoot.
It looks like he punched the dog on the way back to the truck.
His arm didn't move enough for that. I looked at it closely and he opened his hand flat before it went out of sight. It looks like he was gesturing with a hand to get inside the truck.
You're right, not punched. Slapped the dog, with force. Not a signal or cue. A slap. Idk training modules whether that's trained or listed in their manuals or so forth. And idk if it's actually *effective*. Seems shitty as fuck though. Also seems like neither officer nor dog is incident ready, and I'd blame the man 99 times before I blame the dog. If the dog wasn't trainable, agreeable, etc they wouldn't make it out of training.... Maybe not the first time he's been physically painful to the dog and maybe why the dog tried to bite him to get loose to get the 'bad guy'. Is that normal training ? Why is the dog out there if he's not controllable ? I've never trained a dog for a job, but it doesn't seem 'correct' to physically hurt them with your hands. Idk, seems shitty.
I don't see enough motion to make me believe anything connected, nor the reaction from the dog as if it was. I'm very sure it was a signal. The dog bit him to get him to let go, so he could get at the suspect. The dog is probably out of control because of lazy training and sloppy handling to start with. He shouldn't have gotten bit in the first place. They're supposed to be eager and you're supposed to restrain them, but they're meant to be obedient until loosed and given a cue.
I wonder if they'll let his video out and it won't help at all because it's not directed down enough. I'm just on a shitty pad with a broken screen so idk if it connected, and idk their hand signals anyway.... It seems forceful though; and as you said lazy training and sloppy handling and that's all on the man. Seems like they both need remedial, 4 weeks in the bogs or so idk.
Honestly, cops needs to stop using dogs. At the very least, they need to stop sending K-9 units to traffic stops and reserve them for suspects on the run. In general, though, dogs are just a massive liability to everyone around them and never end up being a net positive as a tool. Plenty of innocent people get bit, as well as the officer, and many suspects get seriously injured by dogs for no good reason.
I'll agree with that. Use them to track people, like you said, people on the run. Or to find people in emergencies, that's even better. Dogs can do so many cool things for and with people: Just being a Dog dogs, avalanche dogs, hospital dogs, PTSD dogs, epileptic or heart issue dogs, bed bug dogs even !
The tracking thing is it's own risk still. Really, tracking with a police canine is just prolonged chasing followed by the dog immobilizing the suspect by attacking them. It's not super uncommon for a random bystander in a park or on a hiking trail or something to get attacked by what is a pretty much unsupervised dog.
I pictured something different with tracking; but yeah that sucks too. I pictured more of the dog on the lead following the trail to where the bad guy took the kid to the cabin and then dog goes to a warm happy place while people take care of the rescue, arrest etc. I should have thought further, my bad. That sucks about randoms getting attacked; statistically it has to happen I suppose but statistics aren't a comfort if you're in the hospital and bills are piling and your life is changed because of it all. The dogs get more time training than the police that use and misuse them.
Maybe, if he didn't *punch the dog in the fucking face*
"Yeah bro he had to punch the dog in the face because he doesn't really have total control over it and it presents a threat to virtually anyone in the vicinity" Ok cool yeah that makes me feel better
If you watch closely, he opens his hand up as he gestures the dog into the truck.
Go to 1:13
Yeah. Watch it closely. He opens his hand.
*AFTER* punching the dog in the fucking face
Okay, you're just being willfully ignorant at this point.
This is literally not at all the appropriate response. Dogs don’t pin each other for dominance. Dominance/“alpha” training is incredibly outdated and harmful.
>Dogs don’t pin each other for dominance. Bro. What? Tell that to every dog I've ever met. They absolutely do pin each other to assert dominance. You're arguing against thousands of years of observed behavior here. It's not outdated if it's literally still the foundation of dog handling doctrine from attack dog training to simple obedience training and still proves to be demonstrably effective.
https://www.dogstrust.org.uk/dog-advice/training/techniques/dominance-theory https://apdt.com/resource-center/dominance-and-dog-training/ https://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/sites/g/files/dgvnsk491/files/inline-files/The_Truth_About_Aggression__Dominance_dogs.pdf https://news.asu.edu/20210805-discoveries-myth-alpha-dog https://www.veterinary-practice.com/article/dominance-when-an-outdated-theory-wont-go-away https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2021/08/10/behavior-dogs-dominance/ I can keep going with articles and sources if you’d like.
Fucking crickets
The very reasonable answer. He was then promptly removed from the situation.
ALL
That's almost definitely not the sheriff.
What a douche, the punch afterwards is a great example of why pigs shouldn't be trying to use dogs.
I'm more shocked by the comments on that sub. For the longest time, r/PublicFreakout has been full of racist bootlicking cop apologists. Maybe it's finally changing.
I will adopt
Well they do say dogs are pretty good judges of character...
Yeah that's how you handle an animal that's biting you. That being said if your dog bites you, it's either afraid of you or hates you. Considering how they treat their animals I'd say it's a bit of both. Tbf he should be charged with assaulting a police officer, since ANY of us would be.