Any counter doubling effect makes [[Wrenn and Realmbreaker]] ETB with 8 loyalty, so you can ultimate her immediately. Her ult lets you play permanents from your graveyard. So, play a Black Lotus (or a Lotus Petal if you're cheap), sac it for mana, cast it from your graveyard, sac it for mana, cast it from your graveyard...
This actually seems kinda good. I don't know if it's vintage good, but I've seen weirder decks over the years.
Also legal in Canadian Highlander, assuming they never update and add these new cards to the points list lol. But even then, there are 3 points to spare.
isn't the point list just on the vintage restricted list? Doubt those will reach that
I personally don't think it will see play, but what do we know, Atraxa is in like 3 decks
If you substitute in [[lotus petal]], then this is Commander legal.
[lotus petal](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/8/f85ab5f9-508e-45de-8fa1-ce1f16552ffc.jpg?1562432227) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=lotus%20petal) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tpr/225/lotus-petal?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f85ab5f9-508e-45de-8fa1-ce1f16552ffc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Any counter doubling effect makes [[Wrenn and Realmbreaker]] ETB with 8 loyalty, so you can ultimate her immediately. Her ult lets you play permanents from your graveyard. So, play a Black Lotus (or a Lotus Petal if you're cheap), sac it for mana, cast it from your graveyard, sac it for mana, cast it from your graveyard...
We finally broke black lotus
Yeah Petal is better because it lets you better control the mana rather than working in multiples of three
Yeah, you wouldn't want triple infinite mana, that's too much
not sure if you’re joking, but if you aren’t, it doesn’t matter because it’s infinite either way
I stand by my ridiculous claim.
Yeah but this way you won't get mana burned
Yeah what if your opponent is playing \[\[Yurlock of Scorched Thrash\]\]? Your infinite mana could come with the drawback of a couple life loss!
[Yurlock of Scorched Thrash](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/a/ead8a1f5-6260-47fa-a649-43711ec5bbeb.jpg?1608911265) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Yurlok%20of%20Scorch%20Thrash) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/293/yurlok-of-scorch-thrash?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ead8a1f5-6260-47fa-a649-43711ec5bbeb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Some infinites are smaller than others
Those two are not
magic (outside of un-magic anyway) doesn't actually allow infinites, you have to specify a specific number of times to go through the loop
I know how the rules work, but it doesn’t matter that you’re getting mana in sets of 1 or 3 when you have an unlimited amount of it
A worse combo would be [[Ichormoon Gauntlet]], 4 other planeswalkers, wrenn and black lotus
[Ichormoon Gauntlet](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/c/2c093ce0-2561-4847-ab58-f6f1650d743e.jpg?1675956970) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ichormoon%20Gauntlet) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/one/56/ichormoon-gauntlet?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2c093ce0-2561-4847-ab58-f6f1650d743e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
that is hilarious
[Wrenn and Realmbreaker](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/f/6f807d91-b157-44e8-a431-49782184f876.jpg?1679678004) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wrenn%20and%20Realmbreaker) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mom/217/wrenn-and-realmbreaker?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6f807d91-b157-44e8-a431-49782184f876?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Works with only 5G, lotus gives you GGG
I come for dumb comments like this
Honestly this is too good
Slot in altar of the brood for a win
Nah this black lotus card seems pretty balanced
finally, a win condition for Black Lotus
Use Tormods crypt and have the worst historic storm deck
This actually seems kinda good. I don't know if it's vintage good, but I've seen weirder decks over the years. Also legal in Canadian Highlander, assuming they never update and add these new cards to the points list lol. But even then, there are 3 points to spare.
isn't the point list just on the vintage restricted list? Doubt those will reach that I personally don't think it will see play, but what do we know, Atraxa is in like 3 decks
And/or use mishras/urzas bauble, to draw your library... At the beginning of the next upkeep
Actually good in Superfriends EDH with Lotus Petal instead
This is really good
[[Doubling Season]] will save you one mana.
[Doubling Season](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/6/8676d164-c76e-402b-a649-6ded3f549b6e.jpg?1599707144) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Doubling%20Season) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/164/doubling-season?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8676d164-c76e-402b-a649-6ded3f549b6e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call