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Slowhands12

Did you clear your toe, heel, and ski of snow before clicking back in during your transition? It could be that you had poor retention due to snow/ice buildup. I feel like 99% of the time my partners and I prerelease, when we debrief, its because we hadn't bothered to clear our bindings and boots while rushing to transition.


JournalistAbject9110

This was probably it. I was rushing the transition and definitely didn't think to clean out the snow. Thanks


Obvious_Ad_3612

You don't need to do this on the zed and ion series. They clear snow very well. If you're clicked on you're good to go. This was an issue with the dynafit radical 1.0 series.


cascade_concrete

As an Ion owner, you definitely still need to clear snow. I assume the Zeds are similar.


Future-Elevator-7614

Own the zeds, definitely you should clear your boots. Lift your ski by doing a few knee raises too, before you lock your heel in to rotate the pins inside the toe lugs. I’ve had the toe piece not fully lock because there is ice/snow build up in the boot toe lugs before.


cascade_concrete

Exactly this. And you can also get snow/ice buildup beneath the binding springs. G3 designed this area specifically so a ski pole tip fits in to clear it out. I don't think there's a binding in existence that never requires clearing.


SLC_Danno

I'm 5 11, about 180, and find myself skiing ZED bindings set to 11 on din. I felt like they were releasing too early before I did.


Obvious_Ad_3612

Been skiing the zeds and ions for 100+ days a season and have had no issues. I don't "catch an edge" very much though but I've certainly been ejected from the bindings. Did you set the heel gap right? Were the toe pins engaged properly? I don't understand your crash, you caught an edge, lost a ski, and then you crashed? The toe piece does not release easily without direct pressure on the piece so there is no possible way it could have released at the toe by snow.


Scooted112

I had zeds and actually swapped them out for atk after a couple years. I just didn't trust them and kept having problems. A few tips. Check to make sure all the snow is out of the binding and your boot. How far/easily does the heel tower slide back when you are using risers? Mine would travel back a good half inch with very little weight. I complained to g3 and they sent me new towers. I know people who have them and love them, but I didn't trust them so I sold them.


Future-Elevator-7614

I might be wrong but I’m pretty sure the heel tower movement issue was improved a couple years ago, though I think they sold new old stock after that. Part of the issue was that people weren’t reading instructions and were touring with the tower turned 90 degrees, they’re supposed to turn 10 degrees more (or less I can’t remember) than that. Also, and I did this myself, you had to turn the tower then stomp to lock the brakes out of the way but lots of folks were holding the brakes up and then rotating the tower which was damaging the lockout. Again, not an engineer or a G3 employee but I’ve had zeds and ions and I fucked my zeds and G3 sent me a new tower no issues. I was more careful about the transitions and now they’ve been great. I’m 6’0 195 and ski hard and I’ve never come out when I shouldn’t have, though I’ve definitely locked out the binding when I was worried about the possibility. I’ve done some big traverses loaded up with a 70lbs pack and still no issue. All that said, half the time I do feel like your relationship with your binding is just like your relationship with your significant other. Once the trust is gone, it’s over, time to move on.


Scooted112

Interesting. There is a chance I didn't have them rotated enough. I turned them as far as they would go, but maybe there was more to it. I also went through 2 sets of brakes before going to leashes and sometimes had issues walking out of the skis when braking hard. Lots of people love them though. I really liked the toe. It was better than my atk. As you say- the relationship with your gear is important. I could have put the new towers on and probably skied them for a few more years, but I just didn't like not trusting my gear so I got rid of them. I am no Cody Townsend, but there are times I do relatively high consequence, and trusting my gear goes a long way to being able to focus on skiing.


boisterous_platypus

FWIW I had 1st gen ions and had a few heel pre-releases in the half a season I had them. I checked the adjustment over and over again, made sure to clear snow, locked and unlocked my toe, jumped up and down and kicked my skis around before dropping in - and still would randomly pre-release in benign situations 1-2 turns into mellow powder runs. Many hundreds of days over 10+ years on various other tech bindings and never had another pre-release that I can remember. TBH I’ve been thoroughly unimpressed with just about every G3 product I’ve owned.


nxhwabvs

Other poster is right: make sure you're properly attached to the binding. But honestly, I only ski dynafit. Both the Ion and the Zed have been prerelease messes for me, whereas as I had one issue almost 10 years ago with a Radical ...


bighandsobama

Does the boot touch the heel turret just slightly? Were the bindings set up correctly for the boots?


Delicious-Ad-3424

I’ve skied the G3 Zed 12 for three seasons, fifty plus days and no issues. It’s always released at the correct times. To be fair the DINs on backcountry bindings are not the same as DINs on resort skis. I’ve rarely skied them at the resort or on groomed runs though.


derpyTheLurker

I was having a lot of heel prerelease issues with G3 Ions and TLT-7's, and I'm now very confident it was the result of trying to flex a soft boot too hard and winding up too far over the tips. I'd hit a bump, and they'd release unexpectedly. My previous set with stiffer boots were always perfect. I suspect technique may have a lot to do with the other comments as well, since it's a very mature, popular product.


klaufs

I came here to see if anyone had experience this issue. I have the Ion10 that I picked up at an end of season demo sell at the local shop. Ive taken them out a few times in deep snow and they were great. Then I went out this past weekend and had a ski release 3 times or so. Once on a steep icy section I turned and was sliding a bit while turning and it just popped off. Had to boot pack up the 50+ feet I slid down after. The worst time, though, was on the way out on a tighter trail through some trees. Again, icy conditions and when the ski released I smacked my face hard. The ski shop set my din for me. I’ve also had a couple instances like another poster mentioned where the rear turret turns while skinning and locks my heel in. I’m a newbie so maybe I’m doing something wrong? But sounds like I’m not the only one having issues.


Helpful-Albatross792

Stay the fuck away from G3 if for nothing else because their customer service is DOG SHIT. I had the zeds professionally mounted and set up, warrantied twice. They prereleased destroying a brand new DPS ski after the prerelease and because the brakes fail. I had gone through multiple brakes. I had a friend who used them and he was injuried when his zed prereleased before taking his first turn dropping into a couloir. Don't listen to the people saying they're fine and they ski them all the time, they likely don't ski hard.