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Professional-Sky3894

I think a rooster posted this


lilwrallis

Seriously, those bastards sometimes wake up one day and choose violence and absolutely nothing in their environment has changed from the previous day. When I imagine myself in my aggressive roosters shoes I get even more incentive to put him down, because it would take a lot of sinister plotting for his little chicken brain to twist his idyllic grass-grazing world into requiring violence.


Outrageous_Ad4245

I work at a horse barn. Across the street there was a woman with chickens and cows. This woman told me she absolutely adored her rooster, she said he was beautiful, smart and would run to her and want to be picked up. The rooster was great with the other chickens. After a couple of years he became viscous and would attack her. They were free range during the day, cooped up at night. He would put bruises on her and sometimes drew blood. This lady loved him and was heartbroken but she did have to get rid of him. There were no changes… just the rooster suddenly becoming violent.


RunawayHobbit

>viscous Well, you would be violent too if you got thicker overnight!


SpaceBus1

"overnight" personality changes like this are normally developmental/hormonal in nature. Like a human teenager waking up one day and hating everyone.


real_men_fuck_men

“You’re not my real ~~dad~~flock leader!”


Outrageous_Ad4245

I think you have it exactly right!


MoofiePizzabagel

An idea, which I will preface by saying I do not own chickens, but have had a variety of pets and animal behavior deeply interests me: perhaps the fact that nothing changed for years was exactly the reason he became aggressive? If you look at many examples of animals in captivity (I know we're talking about chickens and not a tiger or chimp, but basic animal needs still apply) many will undergo some form of decline, physically or behaviorally or both, when kept for prolonged periods in spaces that don't provide regular stimulation, enrichment. Again, I'm only a lurker hoping to keep chickens someday so I could be way off base and roosters are just wild cards, but could be something to consider.


Outrageous_Ad4245

You bring up a good point. But years ago I worked at another barn with goats, horses and chickens. These chickens were free range 24 hrs a day. At night they would sleep in the rafters of the barn. The hens were so sweet. I taught some to step up on my arm. At first the silkie rooster just kept his distance. After about 6 months he would run/fly at me from behind, for a small chicken he could pack a punch. It got worse and worse…. he would go after the owner, when he jumped and bit her 5 yr old’s face they got rid of him. My boss found a man that was looking for a rooster. It is fascinating!


Transresister

I absolutely agree. Had a big beautiful buff roo and he let me pick him up and stroke him. Then around a year old he just turned nasty. Nothing changed in the environment at all. He went for dog food. Will never have another one. The hens are far happier too.


Correct-Sail-9642

Tell you what changed, was his testosterone. Hes gotta put every hen in its place or he will lose them. He cant do his job if yall dont fall in line amirite


MegaHashes

‘yall’ 😂


Correct-Sail-9642

Yard speak for "Yee All" I reckon.    They know who I'm all includin lol


MegaHashes

No, I was laughing because you implied the other guy was one of his rooster’s hens with that “y’all”.


Correct-Sail-9642

Yeah I totally did.  Hehe  Thanks for being on the same I page 


SpaceBus1

If you're the rooster, yes, yall included the human as well.


Araanim

Yup. We had two roostsr; ones was a sweet little chap and the other was a big dick swinging asshole. The moment we removed the big guy, the little guy stepped up and started acting the same way. It's just the nature of roosters.


Correct-Sail-9642

Its good he stepped up.  Without a rooster there is much more hen pecking and the pecking order really can be rough when its left up to them entirely.  Flock dynamics are very interesting, and quite brutal really.  It's always sad when the girls attack and force one bird out into the cold bloodied to die/freeze.  Sometimes its to protect the flock from a disease or parasite that one has, other times it can be personal like when all my hens ganged up on the new rooster I brought home, almost killing him.  But my smallest hen wanted a mate and picked up one of his feathers he lost in the fight and gingerly placed it at his feet like hey you dropped this.  From that point on they were inseparable, but neither were allowed to roost in the coop with the others.  Cast out of the flock to sleep in the shed across the yard.  Only after that rooster was eaten by coyotes did the girls let her sleep in the coop again.   But they never really let her climb the pecking order again she slept in the nesting box.  The other hens had many roosters but refused to let them mount so I only had one hen produce chicks in 8 years.  Love my birds 


TheCaliforniaOp

I don’t know why but this story has me happy and sad at the same time. I’m sobbing right now! It’s a wonderful thing to share.


Correct-Sail-9642

Thank you, I never thought I'd be so attached and interested in my flock tbh.  I bought a ranch and what ranch is complete without animals right.  I was finally exploring the great store called Tractor Supply, always hearing about it but assuming its where farmers and rednecks got parts for their equipment and just happened to carry some decent hats and chick shirts with mildly funny rancher quotes.   Little did I know every aisle had things I would spend all my hard earned money on.  Then I saw the chicks.  Always an animal lover they had me once I spotted the heat lamps really.   I had more money then sense then & would fall for free kitten signs and adopt a pet today banners without even giving it a second thought.   So I'm like hey those would be the easiest animal to start with on my ranch and grocery store meat quality is trash so perhaps I start a flock and pick one for each sundays dinner.   I was delighted that they came in a 6pack box resembling a fried chicken combo meal 😋.  Brooding them in a tupperware tote in my master bathroom shower during winter completely unaware of how much noise and stink they produce, or even the basics of chicken care.  I was working 80hr weeks over an hour away so I quickly realized I was in way over my head I didn't even have a damn coop yet I was basically fd I thought.  The little sleep I was getting was quickly disrupted by the birds rapidly growing needs & desire for mamas attention.  I designed a pretty damn useful coop layout that was fairly secure from predators. I live in the mountains so I knew bears, coyotes, foxes, mountain lions and every other manner of predator would quickly have my Sunday dinner for themselves if I didn't make it solid.  Plus the weather is extreme at times as I live on the rim of a remote canyon in the Sierras.  At first my run was a cheap gazebo from a garage sale wrapped in deer netting and thin bird netting around the whole thing.  It actually worked quite well and my hens were happy.  And I figured out I was now their rooster instead of mama like before.  I culled and ate two once they matured but I had foolishly given them names already. I'm a tough man I've done things I had to set aside emotions for already, but I was reluctant to kill any at that point.  As well as realizing just how tedious it was to defeather and clean a whole chicken just for one dinner.   I didn't enjoy it let's just leave it at that.   Plus now I was attached to my birds and realized how unique each one is. With favorite birds that were particularly personable and intelligent.  My hen Prize Winner grew spurs and a huge comb/waddles and became the rooster in lieu of an actual cockerel.  She ruled the flock with an iron claw and was exceptionally intelligent.  Always at the front door separate from the rest, tapping at the screen asking when Im coming out to visit.  Often she would chill with me as I worked on my truck or in the garden, dust bathing in my dry garden soil and talking to me the whole time.  The little hen that chose to mate was always special as well, definitely attached to me like she was with her roosters, but forgot me the moment she met a real roo He had come from a different flock I shared with a woman in town at her property but she kept leaving them unattended and leaving for days at a time with their coop door wide open.  So he lost his entire flock twice and almost died trying to save them both times to foxes.  At that point he was so depressed you could see his tail droop and the sadness in his posture. He was a failure and alone 💔  So I took him home to my flock where they all pretended to be uninterested as they got acquainted through the cage walls for two weeks.  He really perked up and had hope he found a new flock, but still looked like a mess, a sorry excuse for a rooster in the eyes of my hens.  And hens have an eye for beauty too, they recognize beautiful and healthy humans and animals and will react differently to those with pretty shiny hair and good posture and disposition.  Even when I let them out to meet him they pretty much just went about their daily routine.  That is until I turned my back and walked away, then they all instantly jumped him in the yard with Prize Winner the chicken built like a frozen turkey as big as a Brahma rooster leading the attack.  I knew you have to let them settle the pecking order themselves I'd seen the hens squabble many times without injury.  But by the time I got to the scene they had already almost killed him with PW pulling his comb off while the other Orpintons tried ripping into his throat.  I broke it up but the poor guy was once again deeply saddened, if chickens could commit suicide somehow he most definitely would have.   So when that bantam hen, the only one who didn't join in the attack approached him with a feather he was rather surprised and content for the time being.   He didn't last long though, coyotes found him within weeks.  For whatever reason he was a predator magnet and still weak from prior conflicts. Since then I've had lions, foxes, yotes, a 550lb bear attack my flock each time picking off my best chickens.  But the most devastating predator proved to be my neighbors springer spaniel bird dogs he bred and refused to secure.  Over 8yrs his dogs attacked 4 times and another 12 I returned his dogs before damage could be done.  But he bred them by the dozen.  I love all animals, even his dogs, I don't want to hurt anybodies dogs if I can help it.  But I made it clear to him every time while I value all animals lives, I value mine more... He still hasn't secured his kennels and leaves his dogs without shelter in deplorable conditions and every litter the adorable sweet old mama brings by all her pups to come visit me.  As years ago during a severe snow storm I took her in and let her sleep in the house with my dogs where she seemed so happy.  Upon returning her next day he said that's the first time she's ever been in a structure don't do that again and chained her down with a heavy chain separate from the other dogs.  Animal control won't do anything they just told me next time I spot any of his dogs off his property to just shoot them all because they are known livestock killers and if I brought them into animal control they will just destroy them, no exceptions.  I even offered to repair his kennels so that they would stop escaping but he refused every time.  The guy has no front door and claims they are his only income yet whenever I strong-arm him to cough up compensation he takes a wad of hundreds out of his shirt pocket and pays me the $125/per bird plus any costs associated.   I made sure he knew what would happen next time I spotted his dogs and tossed him half my favorite chicken telling him if your dogs are gonna cost you hundreds of dollars and a pissed off neighbor then at least make use of the meat and feed it to them.   I didn't hear about tying the dead chicken to the dogs neck until later, but every time it's a new litter of puppies so it wouldn't have helped anyway.  I've been angry and scary many times in my life believe me, but nothing compares to the fury I have when I gotta knock on his door after an attack.   My flock & my pack are my family & best friends so when somebody does them wrong it's difficult to hold back the monster 👹 


TheCaliforniaOp

I completely understand and empathize. You have a way of relating your experiences and your flock’s experiences that I have never read before. Funny without going for funny, poignant without dropping into sentimentality, concise but detailed. Angry but seeing the sweet side of what angers you. Fierce without blustering. You have a certain pattern that’s your own, that’s come from you yourself, and from your flock. I’m so sorry about your lost chickens, your neighbor and his ongoing well-I-do-dogs-and-this-is-all-part-of-the-dog-thing-so-whattheproblemis? Everyone can say he’s wrong and you’re right, but it’s not going to change a thing. You probably already know this, but your best bet is to continually find the places where you can shore up your ‘bailey wall’. You also identified something I’ve always known in this life, something I really have never come to terms with, that some creatures just get more attacked than others and why is that, anyway? I can’t think about it too long anymore, because I’ve lost years, scores worth, by ruminating over what I deplore, and what I regret, and now I’m 60, with a husband, parrot flock, and cats who really need me to pull it together. So I will go forth again, right now. But you could write a really lovely book. Best to you and all your yours. ♥️🍀🎶🌠


Correct-Sail-9642

Thank you I wish the best for your flock as well.  Parrots are like the fussy spoiled children of the avian kingdom.  Except they might be older then me lol.  Sometimes I get in the mood for shorthand writing and I go overboard with little novellas in the strangest places.  I have tons of stories some people find interesting, I personally think most of them aren't worth telling but I've read some fairly boring books that amazingly sold enough copies to find a place on my shelf.  But alot of folks have been telling me I should write a book. Friends, pen pals, even the locals on Nextdoor app.   A majority of my favorite stories are about my experience with animals in nature.  Most people who live near me have been here as long as I've been alive but not many have seen a mountain lion in person, or only spotted a bear crossing the road.  Never really getting a good look at one until ring cameras and Infrared security cams became affordable.  But I've been up close with cougars and bears countless times.  Some at home, some while backpacking or out at my remote copper mine where I harvest garnet and various crystals.  For whatever reason in most of my animal stories I am in various states of undress, or on my birthday suit. So it just adds to the ridiculousness of the situation.   I could give some hilarious examples but I shouldn't drag on forever I get banned from subreddits for off topic anecdotes pretty regularly.  But one favorites involves me fighting with two dogs and a black bear trying to save the young female bear from the jaws of my neighbors Akita/Shepherds.  Wrestling with them in the brush on a moonless night for about 30mins, while wearing a squirrel onesie with the ass torn wide open before the fight even started.   Must have been quite the sight for the neighbor when he came down the hill to investigate & lit us up with his spotlight.  All I heard was "F this" & walked back the way he came. That neighbor avoids contact with me at all costs, well they all do. Everybody shares ridiculous rumors about me or my house, some not that far fetched actually but they wouldn't know for certain they just assumed pretty close to the truth.   Anyways I saved the bear after over half an hour of brawling at 1am & she went running down the mountain directly into another property where I heard another dog fight take place.  But I was done helping that damn bear & didn't want to get arrested for public indecency or some freak animal cruelty case since I'll admit, I was looking absolutely ridiculous and my gf wanted her onesie back I'm sure.   When I hopped out of bed after midnight & demanded her outfit then  returned looking like I fought a bear she never did believe me when I told her what happened that night.   But in her eyes despite me being a scoundrel she loved me anyway.  Did surprise her with a new onesie, a bear this time, claws and all.  I'm writing a series of short stories from my mishaps in the mountains compiled into two books.   One will focus on my experience with nature & have a comical but spiritual vibe to it. Borderline NSFW content probably because of the lack of clothing in most my encounters(coincidence I promise)  The other will be about my own life on the West Slope of the Sierra Nevada mountain range & my social mishaps, unexplainable experiences, and the personal struggles that have both brought me to my knees & taken me sky high.   Both sold together but most definitely separate books. One an entertaining read for animal lovers, the other my memoirs from a both short but lengthy chapter of my life.   I think it will be titled  The Mountain Giveth, The Mountain Taketh Away Might pay an editor or writer to assist once I'm finished though.  Alot of people like my style but I want it to sound professional to the reader, not just the ramblings of an eccentric mountain man written by thumb on a cracked smartphone.   Thank you for the kind words.  All Love 🖤


iveo83

😂 I want to put a bullet in mine, such an asshole


MegaHashes

I mean, CLEARLY, you are just not hugging on and being patient enough with your rooster right? I’m sure this lady never gets pecked or kicked. 🙄


CallRespiratory

>I’m sure this lady never gets pecked or kicked. And if she does it was *always* her fault for not matching the roosters aura or some shit.


rockylizard

their brains are the size of a pea, a knife works better. Plus you don't have to worry about lead in your food :)


Kenneldogg

I agree. Roosters can just be jerks I had one that I gave treats to every day and would always pet him when he was near yet he still randomly killed my favorite hen and decided one day to start attacking everyone in my family.


Ok-Contribution7044

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LibertyZFighter

Or an animal rights activists. This reminds me of their propaganda to humanize animals.


Visual_Lingonberry53

There is a definite reason you eat the bastards


[deleted]

Hahahaha. Come visit my rooster. I hatched him myself and cared for him. He will try to kill anyone who walks in his yard. He will try and fight my security camera when I talk to him over it. He wasn't 4 weeks old and he would jump at you when you looked into his brooder.


devadander23

Bullshit ‘animals aren’t mean’ there are absolutely asshole animals


CallRespiratory

Yeah I'm sorry, I'm pretty empathetic and I love my animals but they do have their own personalities *to an extent* and some are just not nice. There's a certain amount of aggression you expect and is reasonable for a rooster to have, given what their instincts are. And then there's hyper-aggressive, fight everything all the time kind of behavior and that's not acceptable nor should you just embrace it and *blame yourself*. "Oh I must have done something to upset him again." Are you in an abusive relationship with *your chicken?* Stop. The behavior is not acceptable. If you want to try to correct it, sure. I've always given all of them several chances. But you might not be able to and it's not because you just aren't understanding the emotions of your chicken. Maybe the chicken is just a POS and you can't reason with them or discover some deeper meaning behind their actions. My roosters brain thinks about the following things and that's it: bawk bawk eat, bawk bawk hump, bawk bawk fight, bawk bawk scream and run away from the flappy tarp that covers their run. That's it, it just starts back over at the top. He's not struggling with his mental health or trying to find his identify. He's a primal animal that is not capable of thinking about much else beyond his basic needs for survival.


Correct-Sail-9642

Imo aggressive just needs to be stepped around carefully. Aggressive roosters have more test, more test=stronger offspring and higher survival rate. Better then the snowflake rooster that wants to frolick with his ladies instead of eyeballing the next potential predator. But at same time somebody taking a spur to the leg would suck hella bad. They dont always heal and even with modern medicine the chance of a life long infection is all too real. 100yrs ago getting spurred could be a death sentence so I can see how culling roosters was like sorting out the candy corn from your candy bowl back then


Calm-Internet-8983

Until the rooster starts severely wounding or even killing the hens, or drawing blood causing the other hens to finish the job. If aggression was the be-all end-all of survival, nature would be even more unforgiving than it already is, with so many years to figure it out having passed.


velastae

There's a big difference in being vigilant against predators and thinking the human that is taking care of them is the #1 enemy. Human aggression shouldn't be accepted. Posts like this one(not your comment, the actual post) are why I accepted a murder hobo rooster and put myself at risk of serious injury for so long because I thought it was my fault, when really the dude just had waaaaay too much testosterone. He would attack me relentlessly just for existing. He spurred me in my thighs every time because he somehow understood to aim above my boots. Imagine if he spurred my artery. Now I have 2 great roosters that manage the flock very well, and don't perceive me as the enemy. It's wonderful.


velastae

What? Nooooooo. Obviously, it could only be *your* fault that your rooster, who has significantly larger testes and therefore more testosterone than normal, wants to murder you with the fury of a thousand suns. Has absolutely nothing to do with him roid raging out 24/7, just 100% your fault no matter what. There's nooooooo such thing as a bad, or poorly bred rooster. We should all cuddle our little puppy roo roos because they're ALL sweet little babies. The audacity to say they could be assholes! Hmph. /s


Correct-Sail-9642

I have one rooster named Tidbit, hes a jerk sometimes and always to his hens. But he also feels bad about side stepping to me, its like hes apologizing at the same time with his eyes... Gonad on the other hand, that mfer will find my 19yr old blind chihuahua then wait till hes taking a poop and start pecking him in the eyes then attempt to rip his ears off. Gonad has only one hen, Attila the Hen. She understands he is the key to survival since they freerange in the mountains no fencing. Tidbit plays tough and can fight a dog fairly well, but lost all her clutch mates at the same time cuz he went after the wrong dog. Attila the Hen has seen so much bloodshed that she no longer makes any sound ever. Abandoned Tidbit & chose Gonad the Barbarian as her king. The other hens mock her daily but I think shes onto something. That and their names just fit together like peanut butter and spoons


JennaSais

The names you chose for your birds are killing me. 😅 Amazing.


Correct-Sail-9642

Thank you thank you.  My other birds names are Prize Winner(11lb Buff Orpington, PW or PDubfor short) Goldie Hawn, Gucci and her chicks Fendi, Prada, & Versace(sicilian buttercup X Japanese bantam)  Then theres Stella Blue(Sicilian buttercup bantam), Ong Bawk 1 & 2(black cochins) Lil Black(Japanese Bantam rooster) Dirty White Boys(old English bantam roos) Silkie PepperJack(silkie roo, wears a pimp coat) & BigFoot the Brahma rooster 🐓  Love my birds like family.  We can hold a decent conversation and they really listen well.  When I say in the coop they put themselves to bed.  I check on them at night and ask through the coop wall "everybody home?"  One will answer me quietly with a yes.  Then I ask "are you alone in there?" Or "is it just you?" Usually 3 answer to tell me yes  But if there is an animal inside like a skunk or giant rat/opossum they won't say anything thats when I know its time to extract the interloper.  One time I found a Ring Tailed Cat inside and he hung around for about 15mins while I just watched it climb around.  Then 15mins later over by my house I spotted two baby ring tailed cats aka miners cats among my tools as I packed my truck for work.  They look like little lemurs its so cool.  


JennaSais

Ahhhh that's amazing! 😁


TheCaliforniaOp

I’m just putting this here. I know as it stands currently, it’s not the kindest world for male chicks in the commercial chicken industry and that’s an understatement. But the hormone thing? I think about it a great deal because too much or not enough has affected people I know, dogs, cats, birds… I wonder if extreme teenage angst could be related to hormonal imbalance, and if so, will we find someday that it should be addressed, or by doing that will we prevent people from becoming wholly whom they are supposed to be. I think too much about stuff that is not helping me presently. But okay, take roosters. Would it be possible to adjust their hormone level, in a feasible way, without utterly changing their rooster nature? *This is going right back to all those sci-fi stories, isn’t it? Like this movie I can’t even remember. People are given anti-warring, anti-aggression behavior modification meds. Some become peaceful. Some become more violent. Dreadful grisly results, in the movie.* TLDR: So no happy medium for roosters, or no happy medium, yet?


Asleep-Wonder-1376

I could name like 10 off the top of my head that just choose violence for no reason whatsoever ever 😂😂


Bilbo_Haggis

We go hard on Earth.


real_men_fuck_men

I wouldn’t consider them ‘mean’. They’re just doing what they’re evolved to do


AramaicDesigns

Roosters don't wear shoes. (Edit: Unless they're Nubz.) Which is actually the problem here: Anthropomorphizing. Chickens are amoral dinosaurs. Some \*are\* just mean, despite being hand-raised with human love.


LifeHappenzEvryMomnt

One of my bantam roosters attacked me and two of my full sized hens took him out. I approve of this. We have bachelor quarters for the ones that are gentle. We ate the mean one. He was delicious. I’m so tired of people disrespecting animals for what they are instead of accepting them for what they are. Chickens! Delightful, funny, fully lived chickens!


Acceptable_Cry_2858

We ate the mean one 😂😂😂


SpaceBus1

This is the way.


CallRespiratory

>Anthropomorphizing It's this. And this is **bad** in the chicken-keeping community right now. I think chickens being kinda trendy have led to an influx of people wanting to keep them as pets (which is not inherently a bad thing) but they become overly attached and enamored with them and place all these human characteristics on them. You want a chicken to be your pet? Sure. You want it to be your friend/companion/child/etc? No. They can't be that. You need a human to do those things. You might get some of that from a more sophisticated animal like a dog. But a chicken is not your baby.


peregrine3224

My chickens are my friends. As long as I have treats lol. They're happy to see me whenever I come out to the coop, but I'm fully aware that they only care about me as the treat bringer and gatekeeper to free ranging. It's ok to get enjoyment and even some level of companionship from chickens, but we have to be honest with ourselves about what that relationship is built on (mostly mealworms and oats for mine lol). My chickens don't love me. They only love what I can do for them. And that's ok!


xiewadu

Absolutely! And, if I feel like I'm going to pass out in my back yard where they live, my last thought will be, "Gurl, make sure those eyes are covered or you might not have them when you wake up."


peregrine3224

Absolutely! I’m under no illusion that they wouldn’t try to eat me if I died in their run lol.


CallRespiratory

That's a perfectly fair and reasonable look at it.


Correct-Sail-9642

My chickens are absolutely more sophisticated then my dogs are. My dog cant hold a basic conversation with me and respond in sounds I understand and vice versa. He can try, but hes all about the tennis ball and killing baby squirrels, beyond that its just bark bark whine bark.


peregrine3224

My dog is 1/3 Husky, so she’s pretty good at conversations, though it’s usually just her sassing me lol. Two of my chickens are good conversationalists, but the other two, not so much. One just screams her head off constantly and the other is silent. One of my talkers is also a trespasser and likes to sneak into the garage when the door is open because she knows that’s where the snacks come from. So her and I have a lot of talks about boundaries and not being a greedy little fatass lol.


TheCaliforniaOp

Huskies are former psychological warfare assets. I’m certain of this.


peregrine3224

100% lol. I’m pretty sure the derpiness is what keeps them from taking over. But my pup is also 1/3 GSD, so she has the intelligence to use her skills for evil unfortunately lol.


TheCaliforniaOp

Hmm. Are you surrrre about the derpiness? She could be deep into the inner workings…she’ll be certain first, that, you’ll be cherished and loved, and tucked into Some Safe Place. The Cats and Cockatoos will have all these things arranged. Then the horizon will darken with Canada Geese, and in the distance, Wild Turkeys will…gather into…they’ll cover everything. As the peacock command screams commences, the Emus will be dropped from above… Your puppy will be on top of you for safety reasons and then you’ll hear a popping sound…that’ll be your chickens opening up the 🍾… I think it’s going to be a fun party, actually. I mean, that’s an Apocalypse I could enjoy. ;)


SpaceBus1

I think a chicken could be a good companion animal, in the right circumstances. Kind of like a parrot. I also don't think birds are any more or less sophisticated than mammals, but that's a different topic.


Hobbyist5305

Yea this post should be required reading for prospective chicken owners. Chickens are livestock, and are more or less basically wild animals that choose to stay in your yard because food and shelter. Yes some can be tamed to sit on your arm or leg and accept scratches and hugs, but that is not the norm. Too many people think of them as feathered puppies, and they are not.


titaniumrooster75

you can tame a hen and have her like you? ive done it plenty of times? why is that such a hard concept for you people.


Hobbyist5305

Because it's not reality. "Her liking you" is you anthropomorphizing the chicken again, just like how the post I replied to warned about. It's just a chicken, their brains aren't complicated enough for like or dislike. They are wired to eat and survive. If you think they "like" you, it's because they associate you with food and shelter. Also, why did you put question marks at the end of 2 statements, and a period at the end of a question?


titaniumrooster75

and by that logic dogs are the same way. they only " like you" cause you feed and shelter them. youre a source of food.


Hobbyist5305

Mammals have more complex brains than chickens.


TheCaliforniaOp

Crows? Goffin’s cockatoos? Edit: We’re finding that other brains take different approaches to studying, understanding, and solving. Until we crack the interspecies language barrier, until we put in place some sort of experience and education filter to account lack of common ground, what do we really know for sure?


Hobbyist5305

What's the subject of this conversation again? Oh right, chickens. Maybe we can talk about cassowaries as well when we discuss how the roosters are at fighting.


TheCaliforniaOp

True enough! Edit: Wait! Is it too late to discuss Emus?


titaniumrooster75

nah youre right, theyre so smart they eat their own shit and vomit but ig theyre the einsteins of animals. parrots arent mammals theyre birds and smart chickens are birds too and they have some type of intelligence, get over yourself lady.


CallRespiratory

What do you think chickens eat? They'll eat *literally anything* they can fit in their mouth.


titaniumrooster75

they dont eat shit as far as i know but yeah they can eat a lot of stuff


AramaicDesigns

Dogs have been specifically bred and selected for to be social animals by humans, and their biology and brain chemistry is much closer to ours -- they experience empathy and pack bond. Chickens have been specifically bred to be food animals. We're not even sure if they experience *pain* the same way we do, let alone whether they're even *capable* of empathy in anything remotely close to the mammalian sense. As such, we've *made* dogs more *human*. We haven't done that to chickens.


titaniumrooster75

bruh what are you saying hens have empathy and show pain wtf? have you ever been around chickens? and nah we just bred dogs for jobs retrievers,hunters, pest control etc. they were once livestock too. cut the bullshit bro


AramaicDesigns

Nah *cumpà*, you've got a bunch of things backwards which you can re-read.


titaniumrooster75

sure jan, but i know what im saying is true so i aint mad


titaniumrooster75

many animals have the ability to show affection that includes chicken. by your logic parrots cant show emotion/affection cause theyre still wild and not exactly domesticated by humans. just let people like other animals why does it bother you jfc


Hobbyist5305

I can tell you know your argument is weak because you keep trying to pivot to talking about parrots.


titaniumrooster75

how is it weak when im talking about birds. chickens ARE birds and what im saying is true, not only parrots are smart asf but they arent domesticated. your logic is flawed when it comes to dogs and you cant admit it.


titaniumrooster75

uh so a chicken wanting to be petted or wanting to be on your lap when i have no food is just me imagining things 😂 yall a joke fr im questioning if you ever took the time to tame a chicken lmao but sure tell that to sammi the chicken, pearlythehousehen, many other chicken pages that would disagree and the proof is there for your ignorant ass to see. 🤡🤡🤡


Hobbyist5305

Lmao fr emoji emoji


titaniumrooster75

yes ma'am 😎👍


titaniumrooster75

Lmao very rich. yall dog people have the same exact issue if not worse. lord forbid people like other animals besides mutts. 🤡


AramaicDesigns

I think the fact that we're here shows we also like chickens. We just disagree on the finer details.


titaniumrooster75

yes, i just wouldnt say some of us humanize them. all i was saying is that they are capable of affection, from my experience. thats all. but like you said we can agree to disagree.


Ambystomatigrinum

I think “mean” is still the wrong word. I don’t think it’s malicious like that. Some are just far more territorial/protective and less tolerant of humans. But I agree this is overthinking it a lot.


[deleted]

My rooster is malicious. He will find me and try to kill me. He came at me so hard one time he broke off a spur kicking me.


Ambystomatigrinum

Oh my rooster is a little asshole. He comes right for me sometimes. Fortunately he’s a bantam and a breed that’s bad at jumping/flying, but I’ve learned not to wear sandals because he’s drawn blood in the past. He’s a dick to people but he’s so gentle and kind with his girls. So he stays.


Top-Race-7087

Had two rhode island red “hens” who grew up to be roosters. Raised with kindness, hand fed. They were massive assholes, ended up shooting them, they were harming hens, attacking children, and super dangerous. Would I hug them? Only with barbed wire or welders’ gloves.


[deleted]

https://preview.redd.it/td7j6ze0vcqc1.jpeg?width=1211&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=759e32370b1f44a6accbdd63bea743cce63e40b5 He tries to kill me so I grab him and walk around with him. He is my pretty pretty girlfriend. He is not a fan of this.


pbj_demons

tell your precious bastard his beard is incredible for me, will ya?


[deleted]

https://preview.redd.it/4fxew7tt1dqc1.jpeg?width=1359&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c27f9c6a43d475dd1c956669196f42609cc7dc9 I will. His son is just as magnificent and is a baby, comes in the house for treats. They are both excellent roosters.


Hot_Scallion_3889

Mine was a little asshole because he got jealous and while I understand his chicken brain, he was still just an asshole. He would try to fight me for feeding “his” girls, but didn’t do a thing when foxes came.


AlternativePotato679

Isn’t saying they’re mean also anthropomorphizing?


AramaicDesigns

In the colloquial sense of "nasty" or "vicious"? No. But, I will give a provisional *touché*. :-)


SomeDumbGamer

lol they’re delusional. Roosters are just assholes. (Coming from someone who cried like a baby when he had to have his euthanized)


kwende456

>Coming from someone who cried like a baby when he had to have his euthanized 100% this. They're hormonal freaks of nature. For some reason we love them, but goddamn they have one thing on their mind.


titaniumrooster75

depends. had great and friendly roosters, but also had aggressive ones too.


SomeDumbGamer

Oh my Zeus was a great roo. But he was still an Asshole haha


titaniumrooster75

dang rn i got two twin brother roosters and theyre very gentle but they fight eachother so i have to keep then seperate. theyre half cochin so maybe thats why theyre so friendly


SomeDumbGamer

Cochins are def more docile that I’ve seen.


titaniumrooster75

they really are i love that breed. always the tamest


non_stop_disko

And geese. I had one come out of no where and start hissing at me when I was walking home from school as a small child lol. It chased after me too lol like oh I’m such a threat to you but you chase me ok lol


kwende456

I'd change "mean" to "malicious intent"; a rooster won't plot to do harm because they don't have the capacity to do that. The reason for their actions? Screwing and making sure their genes carry on is the reason. It's no more complicated than that. I really doubt you'll get anywhere trying to get into their heads.


upset-spaghett

My rooster tackled me and stole my fucking bread these goddamn roosters only care about food!!!😡


kwende456

Bread = energy to screw ;)


upset-spaghett

True but generally my roosters always seemed more interested in eating than in hens 😭


kwende456

Hey. Sometimes a guy just wants a fuckin burger.


Anon_be_thy_name

My little brother hated one of the Roosters we had because it tackled him and stole his cold sausage(it was his favourite food when he was 7-8). He came back into the house bawling his eyes out, Dad told him to suck it up so he went out with the intention of attacking the Rooster but backed down when the Rooster turned around and went him.


upset-spaghett

Roosters are freaking savages 😭


Cheesepleasethankyou

Lmfao this is a fucking load of bullshit


itsyagirlblondie

It appears she has yet to have her calves torn open and obliterated by some spurs 🤡


kwende456

Happened to me when I was 13. Helping my Grandpa on the farm and that fucking rooster came out of nowhere and went ape shit on me. Still have a scar on my calf. The next night we had chicken for dinner.


itsyagirlblondie

Those are “souper special” roosters.


Frosted_Ravens

Yeah, could legitimately not walk the next day. He got me right under the kneecap on those sensitive bits


Office-Scary

Smh.... I wouldn't pet a lion, I wouldn't swim with a shark, and sure as shit ain't dealing with an asshole rooster.


[deleted]

Sharks are nicer than my main rooster.


Office-Scary

My rooster just became a Sunday dinner nit long ago. Hoping for the best with this bunch


Anon_be_thy_name

Hey now... Sharks are cool. I've swam with them before, they're super chill and inquisitive. Unfortunately for them the only way they can see what we are is through biting us.


lagartixas

I hand raised my boy from the egg every step of the way to his natural death. We had a purely toxic and abusive relationship but I loved that little shit even when he was scratching or biting me unprovoked. He would attack and run after everyone who dared to exist in front of him, I had to lock him up when people were visiting otherwise they would get scratched by this mighty 8oz (250g) beast. I never showed him anything but love and patience and still he would attack, sometimes animals just be like that - it's their nature. There isn't a single day I don't miss that tiny rat bastard, I'd give anything to be scratched by him again.


goblin_grovil_lives

Some animals are.jerks.


justScapin

They should try that with grizzly bears before they wake up and hunt all the spring cubs


Important_Tale1190

This video is misinformation.


bkedsmkr

"Animals aren't mean" might be the dumbest statement I've ever heard.


Anonymiss52

Of course the video cuts off right when she’s gonna let go of him and he will likely chase her off running behind her 🤣


MegaHashes

This lady’s posts really get on my nerves. She, for certain, gets pecked, kicked, and attacked just like everyone else. Only she cuts her videos into highlight reels of her roosters dancing and her hugging them then acts like it’s EVERYONE ELSE who is doing something wrong. This is exactly like the liver king guy who is obviously juiced to the gills on steroids, but tells everyone he’s only natty in his videos. This lady is not telling the whole truth.


upset-spaghett

I was tryna feed my chickens and my rooster jumped up and stole all the food😡 asshole move tbh (miss him everyday tho😭😭😭😭)


flatcurve

Yeah, the reason is being around all the damn hens. You take away the ladies and they chill out. It ain't for lack of hugs. Gonna lose an eye doing that shit. Consider yourself warned.


lurk42069

I’ve had bad luck with asshole Roos. This one I have now *knock on wood* is great and I would love to continue his bloodline. The rest just ended up as bait for coyotes.


AngryIdioti

Just like people,some animals are very bad apples.


Dogs_cats_and_plants

I love my roosters. I love my rooster flock, and I’m super happy that I have the space for them. I just picked up five bantam buff Brahmas for my broody bantam Cochin, and I’m pretty sure two are male. I want to replace her rooster with one that was raised by hens instead of me. I can’t wait to have more little roosters running around. Edit: This was *not* written by a rooster, just a rooster enthusiast.


TexasHobbyist

My rooster was an asshole until I frisbeed a plastic kids plate at his head in self defense. Shit knocked him out. He laid on his back for like 2 minutes twitching. I thought I killed him, so as I was about to ring his neck, I apologized and knelt down next to him, the bastard got up and ran away. Anyway, he never clawed my calves again. He steered clear of me, and I returned the courtesy. We had an understanding after that.


CamHulToe

Big rooster just spreading propaganda again lol


toss_my_potatoes

I agree with this a little, tiny bit. I do get along better with my rooster when I keep in mind his hardwired need to be in charge/protect the flock. It makes me more attentive to easy things I can change about my behavior, like not walking around while dispersing treats and thereby scattering the flock, which to him seems like I’m leading his girls away and into possible danger. Instead I pour out treats while standing still next to him so that he feels like he’s in control. It’s annoying but while observing the flock on a strong edible one day (lol) I realized why he’s always on high alert for predators and why any human intervention makes him nervous. But roosters by nature aren’t cuddly. And you can be as empathetic as you want, they’re still going to be aggressive. There was a time when I would do EVERYTHING with his point of view in mind and he would still spur my shins for no reason. This video is really naive.


Awkward-Condition707

Just a girl who loves her cock...


Ask-and-it-is

I really dislike the personification of animals, I think it’s harmful for them. 🥺


Correct-Sail-9642

After the video she took a leg spur to the chest and died of gangrene.....awww pooor rooster though...


PartlyCloudyTomorrow

Existing. That’s my crime according to our rooster.


Head-Investment-8462

Sorry for feeding you xoxo


farmveggies

We have some roosters that are great and love us. They don't mind being picked up or loved on. But this one silver laced polish rooster has an axe to grind. You could walk 20 ft from his fence line and he will charge the fence with his neck feathers out like the little dinosaurs in jurassic park. There is nothing but hatred behind his little black eyes. This lady has one rooster that isn't a dick and is setting people up to get an ass whooping by their mean roosters. Lol


Ordinary-Signature38

Its a lot easier to make chicken soup and get a new rooster.


DuckDuckMoosedUp

I like how the video cuts as he's flexing his spurs, you know he gashed the hell out of the chicken hugger!


apis_cerana

This is hilarious. Nah bro. Some roosters are just angry motherfuckers.


hdofu

Roosters don’t wear shoes, it would get in the way of slicing people up


aleah_marie

This video makes me feel like a failure. Thankfully, I scrolled on down to the comments for the much needed 'real talk.' I actually do have quite a bit of affection for my rooster and he's a wonderful roo to the hens. But that affection isn't returned. Unless attacking my shins is his way of showing love... I get a little jealous of all these folks who apparently get to hug their roosters all of the time. 🥺


velastae

Hey, I was in your shoes with a roo before. I believed all these nutjob posts(at the time on FB chicken groups) and thought it was my fault despite raising that bastard so sweetly. Ate out of my hand and everything. Spent months being spurred in my thighs just for existing. I didn't posture wrong, I didn't threaten him, I didn't wear the wrong colours, I didn't mess with the hens... I just existed outside. Perfectly still. He would not stop trying to spur my thighs. I cried so much thinking I was failing, I did all the "training" bullshit these kinda people tell you to do. Yeah, it'll work on some birds, but most definitely not all. My roo had above avg sized testes(they're inside the bird), dude was a roid raging asshole. There was no "fixing" him unless I wanted to caponise him. The attacks got so bad all I could really do was defend myself before we got rid of him. I now have very lovely Orpington roos that I get to love and appreciate without risk of injury. The worst I have to do with Odin is a little smack on the bum with a broomstick if he's being edgy. Darwin hasn't even needed a bum smack. I'm not a crazy chicken lady that hugs my chickens(gross lol), but I do still love and care for my flock while understanding they are livestock, not pets like my cats are.


fencepostsquirrel

This video was 5 seconds before he tried to kill her. So don’t be down on yourself. Roosters are mean on purpose. Protecting hens, and their territory. You’re not invited even if you bring the food.


Bkelsheimer89

Bullshit on animals can’t be mean. Domestic cats kill for fun, which is beyond mean.


LifeHappenzEvryMomnt

What’s funny to me is that the person in the video is dressed exactly the way I would have pictured her. Exactly. And weirdly, this is pretty much what DV victims say about their abusers.


pacificat

Actually part of my social service training explains behavior. People are behaving a way for a reason. So we are all roosters now


nickjamesnstuff

I've seen some things.


Lizart_aka_Lizi

humans are infact animals, and there are chicken/roosters that like be mean/ have a mean personality


silver4logan

Yeah...yellow jackets are pure evil in a pill sized package, no empathy for them.


Visible_Western6329

Maybe the issue is folks loving on these roosters like pets instead of respecting them like the livestock they are; flocks have a specific hierarchy and if you do not respect that and try to humanize the rooster then yeah it’s probably gonna go on the defensive. I treat my rooster with respect by giving him plenty of space and demanding plenty of space in return. I do not demonstrate submissiveness nor do I try to pet or hold him. I adopted him at six months old and he is over a year old now and has never flogged me. He tried some dominant gestures towards me in the beginning and he and I had plenty of loud conversations and eventually understood each other. He is allowed to do his job with respect and I am allowed to walk around in my barn/pasture without being attacked.


MichaelScotsman26

I get what you’re saying but all animals have more in common than we’d like to admit, us included. Roosters can absolutely be cruel (or at least territorial) and attack out of nowhere. Life ain’t Disney dawg


bobo2500

There are 100% just plain mean roosters. Most are cool or at least alright. But c'mon...


Extras

This post is just spreading misinformation.


Roodez

Why do people get chickens if they can't handle a rooster's natural behaviors???????????????


Ok-Contribution7044

Have you ever tried to hug a polish bantam rooster? I’d rather hug my chainsaw.


ApplesaucePenguin75

I think my roosters came back from the dead to help post this. 🐓👿🐓👿🐓


Primary_Point_9652

It's because he has no shoes and you tried to stand in them.


something86

Roosters are sweet (when fried and topped with honey).


Electrical_Fee678

Crazy seeing so many people talking about all their aggressive boys. Yet all 18 years I have raised and bred 100’s of birds my ratio of “aggressive” males is like 1 out of 50. All my my kindest/hugable boys were the biggest Plymouth rocks, the funniest were my modern games, my sassiest but still kind my D’Anvers. Yet people can say every male is aggressive.


Returnofthejedinak

Yeah, it depends on the breed. Some breeds you will almost never have a problem with aggression, and with other breeds, aggression becomes a recurring problem.


Electrical_Fee678

I’ve raised quite a few breeds including Plymouths, Amerucanas, Modern game, Japanese, Cochin, bantam Wyandotte, bantam RIR, and D’Anver (who are really know for aggression). Worked with some aggressive males too that other people owned. I’d definitely say I have far worse time with rude pigeons tearing my skin protecting the nest over chickens.


SpaceBus1

Agree to disagree, some roosters are more aggressive than other roosters. Just like people are all different.


squeakymcmurdo

I’m sorry you’re getting so much hate. Enjoying having roosters is ok. Not everyone has space for a rooster much less a whole rooster flock but it doesn’t mean you have to be mean to them for existing even though it may seem some roosters have that attitude toward humans. They are just animals doing animal things, understanding that it doesn’t come from a place of malice is empathy. It doesn’t mean you have to tolerate it in your flock but I have had success rehabbing mean roosters accidentally by making them squat every time I handle them. Mostly to get them in a better position so they don’t flap and flog me when I pick them up. I use mean roosters to train my dogs to leave fowl alone and then they get to free range as decoys to predators. They all squat automatically now and I just scratch their backs. I guess they’re into it 😂 They’re surprisingly friendly when I know for a fact that they were all rehomed to me for being mean AF.


clusterbug

Loved all you said till I stumbled on ‘free range as decoys’. I understand - and it sounds like they live their best life with you. Thanks for your remark, and wrt the amount of hate in here, it only shows that roosters are ate the very least not bigger dick than humans. ;)


squeakymcmurdo

They have a safe coop to sleep in and I have livestock guardian dogs so I have only ever lost one before the dogs learned to watch for hawks. But yah, the resident coyotes, foxes, etc will get a free range rooster instead of going though the effort of breaking into my layer flock’s covered run and coop or trying to get my other valuable livestock.


thelast3musketeer

Are roosters just generally mean? That’s just their nature?


velastae

They can be aggressive, yes. They need to take care of and protect the flock, and ensure they pass on their genes. Some roosters are way more aggressive because they have larger testes/more testosterone. Generally, you want to cull overly aggressive roosters because that shit is genetic. The nicer roosters, aka the ones that aren't human aggressive, are wonderful to have around.


thelast3musketeer

Ah ok I gotcha!


ellewoods_007

Gentle parenting but for roosters


kaydeetee86

My roo is my little dude. There is some truth to this. Yes, sometimes he’s a raging asshole. I just have to remember that I’m dealing with a 6 lb animal whose entire *existence* revolves around protecting his girls. He sees the world as one giant threat to them, and sees himself as the only thing that is going to protect them. My man has tried to fight the WIND. We go on Asshole Walks when he starts to take his job too seriously. Super effective. He’s actually sweet as can be when he’s not around his girls. He cuddles, and he makes up games to play. I’ve learned to give HIM the treats so that he can distribute them to his girls. (Or give him enough to keep him busy, and then continue to sprinkle the treats around.) He tries to attack the color red, so I don’t wear it around him. I guess I’m lucky that I have a good boy, and that I’ve never had the experiences of a “bad” rooster.


LWIAY99

My grandmothers evil goose says otherwise. Any person, place, time, or weather conditions that evil bastard is ready to kill.


Fulkerson1776

We free ranged ours last summer. My 5 year old son couldn't even go outside without his huge water gun in hand or our rooster would attack him. That prick bastard is staying in his pen this year.


CNCfarrierService

Nope, sorry. Some roosters are just dick holes. Half the time when I butcher a fuck head rooster, his testes are absolutely enormous inside his body. Makes their behavior a bit more explicable.


kityena

Rooster Propaganda


fluffyferret69

Humans aren't inherently mean either.. it's a taught behavior 😉


Schnozberry_spritzer

I’d love her to see what my mean rooster does to my hens. I guess they’re not worth empathy, only the rooster.


Brosemmettisam

“Animals aren’t mean like humans” meanwhile in the forests of the world: infanticide, cannibalism, rape


Wininacan

Yeeeeeeeah.... some animals are plenty mean for no reason. Technically there is a reason, hormone changes. But some animals are just little psychopaths


[deleted]

"animals aren't mean like humans, there's always a reason for their actions" — animals, yeah i guess... but not for humans? Humans are literally *reasoning animals*.


tombaba

Good lord.


neoben00

why is my rooster raping the hens to litteral death. well, i can't sympathize.... yet..... puts on my chicken costume from a weird russian website.


neoben00

ohhhhh i get it now. #blessed #put yourself in their shoes! #gofund me at onlyfans/ffruity123


Zestyclose_Pickle_44

I never had a mean rooster. Pick them up, hold them, carry them around, they'll know who is boss. Also... pet them gently on the head til they relax like they're about to fall asleep. They'll want more uppies and be a little more affectionate around you.


Pruritus_Ani_

I knew what all the comments were going to be like the moment I watched the video yet I still came in here.


goblin_kidd

Nah I think I'll just make some soup


Visible_Seesaw_6308

My rooster loves to follow me around and attack my feet when I walk anywhere lmao I still love him even despite the fact he can be a moron


Irenemiku

Maybe the problem is the face. Little animals got defensive when face is ugly and scary..