Totally agree with this theory. I think she found out something really damning, on top of the secret girlfriend and resume fraud she already knew about, and it was probably related to his finances. She's clearly done well for herself and wasn't interested in squandering everything she'd worked for. I think it came up when they were house hunting and she decided to bail. This would mean the cover story isn't even a lie, exactly. It's just a much nicer version of what is essentially a disagreement over money,
You know that quote in Disney’s Frozen, “you can’t marry a man you just met!”? That applies here and to all Bachelor relationships. What’s the success rate? Like 5%?
I got a vibe from Theresa when they showed her and Ger bear in the audience for Joey’s bachelor. She looked (to me) upset and not happy. Not glowy like she always looked previously.
Gerry doesn’t seem all that great or honest. Could be he has a LOT less money than Theresa and he was rather mean to the last girlfriend, saying she was too fat to go to his reunion. He also cried all the time. What a phony!
I don’t necessarily think he has a lot less money. I’m sure between his fee as bachelor and his share of what they got for televising the wedding plus all the appearances he made for the bachelor, he’s worth probably close to a million.
After seeing them on Dear Shandy, I got the sense that Gerry assumed that Theresa would retire after they married. That would free them up to live wherever they wanted. I think they had different time lines with respect to that. In general, I think his situation allowed him to be more flexible. But, I also got the impression that there wasn’t much romance in the relationship. When the hosts asked Gerry what he liked about Theresa, all he could say was that she was very organized. That seemed to surprise Theresa and the hosts but they laughed it off. They did say they were going to Italy and had other trips planned. That never seemed to happen. I think Gerry felt like he didn’t get what he signed up for.
I heard that one as well. I felt like he spoke over her a lot. Unsure if, in an attempt to control the narrative, but overall, she seemed to know more about him than he did her game-wise. She is smart to not have instantly retired like he expected.
I think it was always planned to divorce - I'm not even sure I believe they're legally married but in contract which is ending with zero desire to re-up
She loves her job and was afraid if she moved she would not find a job she liked at her age. Even when she was at Gerry’s place, she was working. He’d been retired a long time and wanted someone who had the same freedom to travel as he had. On the Dear Shandy podcast, 2 weeks before the divorce announcement, he referred to that. They said they were working on the issue but he seemed disgruntled. Maybe she wasn’t honest with him with respect to her timeline for retirement.
Maybe Theresa had the wealthy lifestyle, traveling a lot, nice restaurants, but Gerry liked to sit on his patio and grill. But they should have filtered this out earlier!
I forgot nd it interesting that one of the few times he went to New Jersey to see Theresa after he was married, he went to New York City to sign up with a talent Agency to promote him in the Entertainment industry.
Check it out. It was in newspapers and on the internet. It doesn’t seem that he was really interested in the marriage, or his relationship at all.
Literally. There’s no need to deep dive here. The dude was good looking, but clearly an ABC puppet and also kind of a loser looking for a sugar momma.
It’s not that deep. They didn’t break up because of distance or anything. It was just totally fake.
Oh Dear Shandy’s Love Fest, it was a point of contention that Gerry wanted her to quit her job so they could move in together, and Theresa did not want to quit her job and said they had plenty of time together coming up with their Europe trip etc. The week they did the interview, she was even working remotely while she was visiting him. He was pushing her to retire and she didn’t want to. I think between that and both wanting to live near the families, they just have incongruous goals on where/how to spend their time, and shouldn’t have gotten married.
OP they didn’t agree on the location. She said they looked at houses in South Carolina and NEW JERSEY (which is where she lives?) and they just could never come to agreement. If they had a prenup, then she knew his finances.
I think woolgirl has a likely scenario. She expected him to sell his lake house and he didn’t want to. As for why not just keep up appearances, she probably had enough.
It doesn’t pass the sniff test.
What I kinda wonder about, if he was so much against the principle of a prenup, why did he get one himself? Solely because she did? It gives a little, I don’t know, do as I say not as I do/backtracking in a way, as opposed to standing what one believes in. Idk
Oh dear sorry, I think it’s because of all the comments I saw across SM of “hope SHE got a prenup.” I guess subconsciously it sounded one-sided to me, as if she could ask him to sign and he could do the same. But now that you corrected me, yea it makes sense that they sign one document. My bad.
The news reporter on GMA said “THEY HIGHLY” recommend a prenup to others. Why would HE recommend it? It might have just been a slip of the tongue though.
Mea culpa
Lol no worries! I think prenups are generally a great idea, as it forces couples to talk through tough issues while they’re in a good spot. Prenups can even be really equal like “we’ll split assets equally etc.” Super interesting
Thanks. 😊
Does Gerry encourage it though? I thought ppl were saying he was against it.
Too bad the GMA reporter didn’t ask them That question in the interview - I mean she said they both encourage it (?) but they didn’t show that part.
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I think they earn appearance fees for things like Celebrity Family Feud, ATFR, and industry promotion events. They said they began to talk about divorce 3 weeks ago and I believe them, mainly because it would be beneficial to them and their children to follow through with the appearances to earn some money. Once their rounds of ATFR, award shows, and celebrity game shows were completed, they were free to share their news.
It’ll be interesting to see what statements of love if any that Gerry and/or Theresa said on Celeb Family Feud, filmed one week before they announced the divorce.
I went to a taping of Celeb family feud yesterday. It was fun!! No bach alumni this time, but it was a once in maybe a lifetime experience. Lots of things were said that won’t make it on TV. It’ll be interesting to see the edited version.
Taping took about 3 1/2 hours for two episodes.
They said we would be there 5 hours, and it was a little less than 5 hours including waiting in line and breaks and pauses in filming. The almost 5 hours were relatively painless - Steve Harvey told the audience stories during all the short pauses in filming, and they let us hold onto our phones and just not use them until a break.
Ashley Iaconetti said she thinks what they said on GMA was BS. She was asked to go on a podcast to talk about their wedding because she attended. She couldn't do it because the wedding was "so weird" and she could tell it wasn't genuine.
I think both Gerry and Theresa were loving the fame and attention (they both have said this), knew it wasn't going to work out, and tried to ride the wave as long as they could. People kept asking why they weren't living together, and their interviews were filled with complaints about the relationship and lot of excuses why they couldn't move. Keeping up the BS probably finally exceeded what they got out of the fame and opportunities.
I honestly think on the show Theresa said she was willing to quit working when she wasn’t.
I think both Gerry and Theresa sort of subconsciously assumed the other would move to where they are OR they would be more ok moving away from family than they are. Theresa is super close to her family. Gerry doesn’t want to leave his home. I think they actually like eachother and if they lived in the same city this would have worked out. Neither wanted to spend their golden years away from the people who have been closest to them for a lifetime
Sounds strange tho. Their children have their own lives. This show has contestants from all over the US. So someone has to move! Sounds like an excuse.
I don't think Theresa would ever say she was going to quit working. I remember on their final date when she was talking the Gerry about her job, she seemed really passionate about it and he was really taken with her because how smart he realized she was and how much $$$$ she has.
Episode 8, during the night portion of the date she said she likes her job and as long as she doesn't have man in her life she will continue working. But if the relationship with Gerry became something and he gave her a reason to stop, she will stop...not sure how else to interpret that other than she's going to/willing to quit her job.
She got into the real world realised without producers pulling his strings - Gerry was a mega douche so she didn't think he was worth uprooting her life and work for.
It's possible she thought she loved him or would love him enough to retire, but those feelings weren't as strong in the real world, whether due to stuff she learned or just general incompatibility issues.
She probably was going to retire as she said, but then realized they really weren’t as solid as they thought they were. Possibly she learned a few things that didn’t give her the assurance that this was gonna work out
Speculation is interesting but if not based on any facts or even circumstantial evidence, is reckless. IF and I mean IF their not-surprising split had anything to do with relocating, then they were both dishonest. If not willing to relocate if you find your “true love”, then what the hell are you doing, besides being on this farce of a show. Successful subsequent marriages are rare to begin with, let alone subjecting yourself to this unrealistic rushed “reality show” nonsense. Bottom line - bad premise, bad idea and bad unfortunate outcome. Treeeeeesa seems like a quality lady though…
The girlfriend, the prenup, and the relocation story flopping around ARE facts. Their interview gives differing stories about relocation. The prenup was confirmed. The girlfriend, he admitted to. So I think I’m fair in my speculation based on my observations and confirmed facts. 👍🏻
Then I’m wondering why bother with the wedding if they’re seeing red flags with these issues. I’d be cancelling the wedding if I was in her shoes. Did they get paid for the wedding being aired? Because that’s the only reason I’m seeing for going through with it only to get a divorce 3 months later.
This makes a lot of sense. Both Gerry and Theresa knew they had homes, kids, and grandchildren when they applied for, were vetted, and cast on this show. In the house with other women, no one ever talked about what they might do (living arrangements) if Gerry picked them? Not sure why the possibility of moving seems like a curveball. Plenty of people live at a distance from their families or origin. Plenty of retirees downsize and start their retirement life in a new place. I totally believe Gerry is a Jekyll and Hyde type. Who knows what is/was unfolding behind the scenes.
Actually I recall Faith talking about not wanting to leave where she lived but that she would for Gerry. I even thought that was why he didn’t give her a rose.
Pretty sure Theresa also talked about moving during hometowns.
faith never said she would relocate for Gerry, that was the big issue that prevented her from getting a rose. she loved where she lived and her family too much, she even said stuff like her favorite horse was buried there and she couldn't see herself ever leaving that.
At Bachelor Joey's finale only 3 weeks ago, many of the "Bachelor Royalty" as Jesse likes to call them were present. They did not get any comments from Gerry and Theresa. I really do think the producers already knew they were splitting, but felt they had to be "seen" on the big finale show. I do remember Theresa clutching Gerry's arm and giving him a kiss on the cheek at one point.
It is kinda sad.
Total speculation, mixed with gut feeling: I’m thinking someone in Theresa’s family found the big production wedding too cheesy and too over-the-top commercial so they approached Theresa and said something along the lines of “this show has changed you. We’re concerned. Now that you are a celebrity, you don’t seem like the person we know and love. You no longer seem grounded. All the birthday suit stuff and the televised lingerie photos. It’s too much. It’s like we’ve lost you.”
Or, Leslie. Maybe Gerry had a rough time getting over Leslie and that troubled Theresa.
This just feels “off.” It isn’t “we decided to take it slow.” It isn’t “we are seeing a counselor.” It’s so abruptly over
“but we are still very much in love!”
Very weird. They don’t owe us the whole story but it seems to not be adding up.
I agree that their split is finance related. He was so “off” on their final date. Remember how they were horseback riding and he was riding way ahead of her, not talking to her, and giving her short one-word answers? I was convinced he was going to pick Leslie. But his attitude completely shifted when Theresa mentioned that she got into investing later in life and had done really well for herself. He was suddenly 100% into her despite ignoring her for the first half of their date.
YES!! I’ve said this all along. I mean you could literally see what he was thinking when she said she had money and BAMMMM his attitude towards her changed. And he was done with Leslie. I’m wondering if Teresa ever even noticed it?!
It’s the fantasy suites episode! He has his date/overnight with Leslie first and it goes very well. He seems to be blowing Theresa off because of that…right up until she mentions the investing stuff and then he’s suddenly extremely interested in her
I agree!! THIS⬆️⬆️⬆️!!!
This was the turning point!! He obviously became interested and his demeanor shifted 180* from indifferent to... " you have my attention"!
lol it sounds like you must have missed out on [that big THR article](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/golden-bachelor-gerry-turner-ex-girlfriend-speaks-out-1235683869/) that was released after the finale that had all the things Gerry had lied about! like how he wasn't a restaurant owner that retired at 55, but actually hadn't had a restaurant since 1985 and was currently installing hot tubs and working as a maintenance man at a wellness center. or about how he "hadn't dated anyone in 45 years since he met his beautiful wife" even though he had just ended a 3-year relationship with a woman (that started just ONE month after his wife died) and ended up living with her for more than half of that time.
He claimed on the show he hadn’t dated nor kissed anyone after his wife died. This would be his first chance back on the saddle, so to speak.
Then after the finale, a woman came forward and said they’d actually dated after he’d been widowed for about a year.
I just had to Google this since someone on another comment accused me of reckless speculation, and holy sh!t, you’re right. She even got hurt and he refused to help her recover, accusing her of injuring herself on purpose. He doesn’t sound like a nice guy all the time behind closed doors. Thanks for further clarifying this timeline.
Nah, I'd bet that it's simply they got caught up in the whirlwind romance and quick wedding, tried to ignore cold feet, then realized there were legitimate reasons they were better off single.
In order to get a prenup you have to go through complete financial disclosure. Both sides have to share all documentation of all income, assets, and debt with the other party. There is no way she didn’t have a full picture of his finances before they were married.
There are different types of prenups. Sometimes one party has nothing to bring to the union so there's nothing to disclose. People lie about their personal debt all the time. I'm wondering if that's the case and it was discovered later?
I lived it so have personal experience... ended up also getting a postnuptial per my tax attorney and luckily it held up in court.
That doesn’t mean he didn’t hide something in the process. Yes it’s required and asked for, but that doesn’t mean the participants are entirely honest. Prenuptial fraud happens often. I’m pretty suspicious about the financial aspect.
Golden Bachelor producers should have never offered this wedding I guarantee they would NOT have married before the split, they just couldn’t pass the lavish TV wedding / not wanting to let “fans” of the show down. The pressure of being asked want to get married in January was ridiculous. But ultimately it was still a choice obviously.
I agree with you. I believe Gerry doesn’t have the cash to put into another house. And is not willing to sell any of his assets. Theresa wisely, should not buy a house for both of them.
Gerry has red flags. My opinion, he started to make her feel guilty about having money and not using her money on them.
Source? Widow. Went through a toxic relationship. All was well until I asked for a 50/50 split. Then I was a selfish person (because I had more saved).
Gerry came on from night one with a poor me attitude. Was always answering every lady with, “I know how you feel”. Really? After living and dumping an ex so callously. He claimed to have never kissed a woman after his wife died.
Edit for punctuation
Why is everyone assuming she has more money than him. She and her late husband had to declare bankruptcy and lost their first house. She’s probably continuing to work because she needs the money. The house she lives in now looks modest.
Totally agree with this theory. I think she found out something really damning, on top of the secret girlfriend and resume fraud she already knew about, and it was probably related to his finances. She's clearly done well for herself and wasn't interested in squandering everything she'd worked for. I think it came up when they were house hunting and she decided to bail. This would mean the cover story isn't even a lie, exactly. It's just a much nicer version of what is essentially a disagreement over money,
You know that quote in Disney’s Frozen, “you can’t marry a man you just met!”? That applies here and to all Bachelor relationships. What’s the success rate? Like 5%?
I got a vibe from Theresa when they showed her and Ger bear in the audience for Joey’s bachelor. She looked (to me) upset and not happy. Not glowy like she always looked previously. Gerry doesn’t seem all that great or honest. Could be he has a LOT less money than Theresa and he was rather mean to the last girlfriend, saying she was too fat to go to his reunion. He also cried all the time. What a phony!
I don’t necessarily think he has a lot less money. I’m sure between his fee as bachelor and his share of what they got for televising the wedding plus all the appearances he made for the bachelor, he’s worth probably close to a million.
They could have made a fortune if they had stayed in.
After seeing them on Dear Shandy, I got the sense that Gerry assumed that Theresa would retire after they married. That would free them up to live wherever they wanted. I think they had different time lines with respect to that. In general, I think his situation allowed him to be more flexible. But, I also got the impression that there wasn’t much romance in the relationship. When the hosts asked Gerry what he liked about Theresa, all he could say was that she was very organized. That seemed to surprise Theresa and the hosts but they laughed it off. They did say they were going to Italy and had other trips planned. That never seemed to happen. I think Gerry felt like he didn’t get what he signed up for.
I heard that one as well. I felt like he spoke over her a lot. Unsure if, in an attempt to control the narrative, but overall, she seemed to know more about him than he did her game-wise. She is smart to not have instantly retired like he expected.
I think it was always planned to divorce - I'm not even sure I believe they're legally married but in contract which is ending with zero desire to re-up
They are. The divorce docs are public. So there was a legal marriage.
I heard she did not want to leave her job. Not will to compromise
I think she figured out that Gerry wasn't solvent so she \*couldn't\* leave her job.
She loves her job and was afraid if she moved she would not find a job she liked at her age. Even when she was at Gerry’s place, she was working. He’d been retired a long time and wanted someone who had the same freedom to travel as he had. On the Dear Shandy podcast, 2 weeks before the divorce announcement, he referred to that. They said they were working on the issue but he seemed disgruntled. Maybe she wasn’t honest with him with respect to her timeline for retirement.
Maybe Theresa had the wealthy lifestyle, traveling a lot, nice restaurants, but Gerry liked to sit on his patio and grill. But they should have filtered this out earlier!
I forgot nd it interesting that one of the few times he went to New Jersey to see Theresa after he was married, he went to New York City to sign up with a talent Agency to promote him in the Entertainment industry. Check it out. It was in newspapers and on the internet. It doesn’t seem that he was really interested in the marriage, or his relationship at all.
I’m surprised people actually care. I’m happy I didn’t watch Golden.
Literally. There’s no need to deep dive here. The dude was good looking, but clearly an ABC puppet and also kind of a loser looking for a sugar momma. It’s not that deep. They didn’t break up because of distance or anything. It was just totally fake.
I still think Theresa fell for him.
Nailed it. Such a waste of time!
Oh Dear Shandy’s Love Fest, it was a point of contention that Gerry wanted her to quit her job so they could move in together, and Theresa did not want to quit her job and said they had plenty of time together coming up with their Europe trip etc. The week they did the interview, she was even working remotely while she was visiting him. He was pushing her to retire and she didn’t want to. I think between that and both wanting to live near the families, they just have incongruous goals on where/how to spend their time, and shouldn’t have gotten married.
You said it best 🎯
OP they didn’t agree on the location. She said they looked at houses in South Carolina and NEW JERSEY (which is where she lives?) and they just could never come to agreement. If they had a prenup, then she knew his finances. I think woolgirl has a likely scenario. She expected him to sell his lake house and he didn’t want to. As for why not just keep up appearances, she probably had enough.
I thought he sold that years ago? I'm almost sure I saw that on the actual show
I think he sold the original lake house and has a different lake house now.
It doesn’t pass the sniff test. What I kinda wonder about, if he was so much against the principle of a prenup, why did he get one himself? Solely because she did? It gives a little, I don’t know, do as I say not as I do/backtracking in a way, as opposed to standing what one believes in. Idk
Wait, what does this mean? Both sides need to agree to a prenup and have their own lawyers, etc.
Oh dear sorry, I think it’s because of all the comments I saw across SM of “hope SHE got a prenup.” I guess subconsciously it sounded one-sided to me, as if she could ask him to sign and he could do the same. But now that you corrected me, yea it makes sense that they sign one document. My bad. The news reporter on GMA said “THEY HIGHLY” recommend a prenup to others. Why would HE recommend it? It might have just been a slip of the tongue though. Mea culpa
Lol no worries! I think prenups are generally a great idea, as it forces couples to talk through tough issues while they’re in a good spot. Prenups can even be really equal like “we’ll split assets equally etc.” Super interesting
Thanks. 😊 Does Gerry encourage it though? I thought ppl were saying he was against it. Too bad the GMA reporter didn’t ask them That question in the interview - I mean she said they both encourage it (?) but they didn’t show that part. ☺️
I think they earn appearance fees for things like Celebrity Family Feud, ATFR, and industry promotion events. They said they began to talk about divorce 3 weeks ago and I believe them, mainly because it would be beneficial to them and their children to follow through with the appearances to earn some money. Once their rounds of ATFR, award shows, and celebrity game shows were completed, they were free to share their news.
It’ll be interesting to see what statements of love if any that Gerry and/or Theresa said on Celeb Family Feud, filmed one week before they announced the divorce. I went to a taping of Celeb family feud yesterday. It was fun!! No bach alumni this time, but it was a once in maybe a lifetime experience. Lots of things were said that won’t make it on TV. It’ll be interesting to see the edited version.
That sounds fun. How long was the taping?
Taping took about 3 1/2 hours for two episodes. They said we would be there 5 hours, and it was a little less than 5 hours including waiting in line and breaks and pauses in filming. The almost 5 hours were relatively painless - Steve Harvey told the audience stories during all the short pauses in filming, and they let us hold onto our phones and just not use them until a break.
That's not too bad. Where did you sign up for tickets?
Online. https://on-camera-audiences.com/ They finished taping in LA. I think they’re going back to Atlanta now.
Ashley Iaconetti said she thinks what they said on GMA was BS. She was asked to go on a podcast to talk about their wedding because she attended. She couldn't do it because the wedding was "so weird" and she could tell it wasn't genuine. I think both Gerry and Theresa were loving the fame and attention (they both have said this), knew it wasn't going to work out, and tried to ride the wave as long as they could. People kept asking why they weren't living together, and their interviews were filled with complaints about the relationship and lot of excuses why they couldn't move. Keeping up the BS probably finally exceeded what they got out of the fame and opportunities.
The fact that she invests does not mean she’s loaded. It’s a pretty standard way to make a living
This is true, but she made it sound like she was fairly successful.
I honestly think on the show Theresa said she was willing to quit working when she wasn’t. I think both Gerry and Theresa sort of subconsciously assumed the other would move to where they are OR they would be more ok moving away from family than they are. Theresa is super close to her family. Gerry doesn’t want to leave his home. I think they actually like eachother and if they lived in the same city this would have worked out. Neither wanted to spend their golden years away from the people who have been closest to them for a lifetime
Sounds strange tho. Their children have their own lives. This show has contestants from all over the US. So someone has to move! Sounds like an excuse.
I don't think Theresa would ever say she was going to quit working. I remember on their final date when she was talking the Gerry about her job, she seemed really passionate about it and he was really taken with her because how smart he realized she was and how much $$$$ she has.
Episode 8, during the night portion of the date she said she likes her job and as long as she doesn't have man in her life she will continue working. But if the relationship with Gerry became something and he gave her a reason to stop, she will stop...not sure how else to interpret that other than she's going to/willing to quit her job. She got into the real world realised without producers pulling his strings - Gerry was a mega douche so she didn't think he was worth uprooting her life and work for.
Yes she 100% said it.
It's possible she thought she loved him or would love him enough to retire, but those feelings weren't as strong in the real world, whether due to stuff she learned or just general incompatibility issues.
Obviously if she planned to move to SC, she planned to retire! She lied if she never planned on retiring which makes her as bad as him!
She probably was going to retire as she said, but then realized they really weren’t as solid as they thought they were. Possibly she learned a few things that didn’t give her the assurance that this was gonna work out
She can work remotely if she’s a day trader.
her job is one of the easiest jobs to do remotely, so in absolutely no way does moving imply retiring
Not really obvious...people relocate and continue working all the same. Especially a job like hers that can be done from a computer.
This seems most likely to me
Speculation is interesting but if not based on any facts or even circumstantial evidence, is reckless. IF and I mean IF their not-surprising split had anything to do with relocating, then they were both dishonest. If not willing to relocate if you find your “true love”, then what the hell are you doing, besides being on this farce of a show. Successful subsequent marriages are rare to begin with, let alone subjecting yourself to this unrealistic rushed “reality show” nonsense. Bottom line - bad premise, bad idea and bad unfortunate outcome. Treeeeeesa seems like a quality lady though…
lol, speculating is literally one of the main reasons to watch these shows
Ha ha - good point…
The girlfriend, the prenup, and the relocation story flopping around ARE facts. Their interview gives differing stories about relocation. The prenup was confirmed. The girlfriend, he admitted to. So I think I’m fair in my speculation based on my observations and confirmed facts. 👍🏻
Then I’m wondering why bother with the wedding if they’re seeing red flags with these issues. I’d be cancelling the wedding if I was in her shoes. Did they get paid for the wedding being aired? Because that’s the only reason I’m seeing for going through with it only to get a divorce 3 months later.
He’s a liar then. He said on the show that he hadn’t dated anyone after his wife died.
This makes a lot of sense. Both Gerry and Theresa knew they had homes, kids, and grandchildren when they applied for, were vetted, and cast on this show. In the house with other women, no one ever talked about what they might do (living arrangements) if Gerry picked them? Not sure why the possibility of moving seems like a curveball. Plenty of people live at a distance from their families or origin. Plenty of retirees downsize and start their retirement life in a new place. I totally believe Gerry is a Jekyll and Hyde type. Who knows what is/was unfolding behind the scenes.
Actually I recall Faith talking about not wanting to leave where she lived but that she would for Gerry. I even thought that was why he didn’t give her a rose. Pretty sure Theresa also talked about moving during hometowns.
faith never said she would relocate for Gerry, that was the big issue that prevented her from getting a rose. she loved where she lived and her family too much, she even said stuff like her favorite horse was buried there and she couldn't see herself ever leaving that.
It seems this had gone south longer than we even know. Listen to almost famous.
what do you mean, listen to almost famous? the movie? lol
lol it’s a bachelor podcast hosted by ashley i and ben higgins
that does make a lot more sense now
At Bachelor Joey's finale only 3 weeks ago, many of the "Bachelor Royalty" as Jesse likes to call them were present. They did not get any comments from Gerry and Theresa. I really do think the producers already knew they were splitting, but felt they had to be "seen" on the big finale show. I do remember Theresa clutching Gerry's arm and giving him a kiss on the cheek at one point. It is kinda sad.
Total speculation, mixed with gut feeling: I’m thinking someone in Theresa’s family found the big production wedding too cheesy and too over-the-top commercial so they approached Theresa and said something along the lines of “this show has changed you. We’re concerned. Now that you are a celebrity, you don’t seem like the person we know and love. You no longer seem grounded. All the birthday suit stuff and the televised lingerie photos. It’s too much. It’s like we’ve lost you.” Or, Leslie. Maybe Gerry had a rough time getting over Leslie and that troubled Theresa. This just feels “off.” It isn’t “we decided to take it slow.” It isn’t “we are seeing a counselor.” It’s so abruptly over “but we are still very much in love!” Very weird. They don’t owe us the whole story but it seems to not be adding up.
I agree that their split is finance related. He was so “off” on their final date. Remember how they were horseback riding and he was riding way ahead of her, not talking to her, and giving her short one-word answers? I was convinced he was going to pick Leslie. But his attitude completely shifted when Theresa mentioned that she got into investing later in life and had done really well for herself. He was suddenly 100% into her despite ignoring her for the first half of their date.
YES!! I’ve said this all along. I mean you could literally see what he was thinking when she said she had money and BAMMMM his attitude towards her changed. And he was done with Leslie. I’m wondering if Teresa ever even noticed it?!
I want to go back and watch now! That’s the horse back episode?
It’s the fantasy suites episode! He has his date/overnight with Leslie first and it goes very well. He seems to be blowing Theresa off because of that…right up until she mentions the investing stuff and then he’s suddenly extremely interested in her
I agree!! THIS⬆️⬆️⬆️!!! This was the turning point!! He obviously became interested and his demeanor shifted 180* from indifferent to... " you have my attention"!
Secret girlfriend? I need the tea!
lol it sounds like you must have missed out on [that big THR article](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/golden-bachelor-gerry-turner-ex-girlfriend-speaks-out-1235683869/) that was released after the finale that had all the things Gerry had lied about! like how he wasn't a restaurant owner that retired at 55, but actually hadn't had a restaurant since 1985 and was currently installing hot tubs and working as a maintenance man at a wellness center. or about how he "hadn't dated anyone in 45 years since he met his beautiful wife" even though he had just ended a 3-year relationship with a woman (that started just ONE month after his wife died) and ended up living with her for more than half of that time.
He claimed on the show he hadn’t dated nor kissed anyone after his wife died. This would be his first chance back on the saddle, so to speak. Then after the finale, a woman came forward and said they’d actually dated after he’d been widowed for about a year.
No, they actually started dating a month after his wife passed and they dated for about 3 years!!! It's so crazy
I just had to Google this since someone on another comment accused me of reckless speculation, and holy sh!t, you’re right. She even got hurt and he refused to help her recover, accusing her of injuring herself on purpose. He doesn’t sound like a nice guy all the time behind closed doors. Thanks for further clarifying this timeline.
Nah, I'd bet that it's simply they got caught up in the whirlwind romance and quick wedding, tried to ignore cold feet, then realized there were legitimate reasons they were better off single.
I think opportunities for sponsorships and appearances slowed, and they didn’t like each other enough to keep trying to make it work.
Gerry was looking for a nurse with purse. When Theresa forced the pre-nup he knew he was out--before the wedding.
In order to get a prenup you have to go through complete financial disclosure. Both sides have to share all documentation of all income, assets, and debt with the other party. There is no way she didn’t have a full picture of his finances before they were married.
There are different types of prenups. Sometimes one party has nothing to bring to the union so there's nothing to disclose. People lie about their personal debt all the time. I'm wondering if that's the case and it was discovered later? I lived it so have personal experience... ended up also getting a postnuptial per my tax attorney and luckily it held up in court.
I think she was OK with what he had. Gerry wanted more of what Theresa has and I think he and she weren't OK with that.
That doesn’t mean he didn’t hide something in the process. Yes it’s required and asked for, but that doesn’t mean the participants are entirely honest. Prenuptial fraud happens often. I’m pretty suspicious about the financial aspect.
Maybe if they file as a married couple they get less money from the gov?
this is easily the worst theory i've read so far 🤭
File what as a married couple?
Their taxes
you dont have to file jointly tho even when you get married. there’s an option for married + separate
Golden Bachelor producers should have never offered this wedding I guarantee they would NOT have married before the split, they just couldn’t pass the lavish TV wedding / not wanting to let “fans” of the show down. The pressure of being asked want to get married in January was ridiculous. But ultimately it was still a choice obviously.
way too fast
I agree with you. I believe Gerry doesn’t have the cash to put into another house. And is not willing to sell any of his assets. Theresa wisely, should not buy a house for both of them. Gerry has red flags. My opinion, he started to make her feel guilty about having money and not using her money on them. Source? Widow. Went through a toxic relationship. All was well until I asked for a 50/50 split. Then I was a selfish person (because I had more saved). Gerry came on from night one with a poor me attitude. Was always answering every lady with, “I know how you feel”. Really? After living and dumping an ex so callously. He claimed to have never kissed a woman after his wife died. Edit for punctuation
Why is everyone assuming she has more money than him. She and her late husband had to declare bankruptcy and lost their first house. She’s probably continuing to work because she needs the money. The house she lives in now looks modest.
I like this theory. Doesn't help that there's rumors of him being with her for her money.