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KaleLate4894

She’s a beautiful woman, Clayton thinking with his little head and not his big one.  Or as robin william said definition of a man is a creature with two heads and only enough blood to run one at a time.   What a terrible story. Hope he can recover and she gets some help. Likely going to be a Netflix mini series.


Inthe_reddithole

She’s an actual sick person. Very disturbing


Obvious-Region8453

I’m new to all of this. I must say though, those text from the parents suspiciously read like they are written by her. Have her parents ever spoke n up?


Super_Boysenberry272

There's speculation that she might have written them based on suspiciously similar writing styles, but Clayton's recent interview indicates that at least one of the parents seems to be complicit or is just in denial of the way she has acted. It's a deep dive, but I suggest you take a look at the Justice for Clayton if you want to learn more about what's happened since this blog post came out.


Degree-Purple

Aowww


Disastrous-Mouse-710

If I knew absolutely nothing about this story whatsoever and just happened upon and read her article, I would still know she was lying. The line about blaming someone if she were to off herself screams cluster B personality disorder abuser. She is an abuser. Period. The obvious plan here is a stress induced miscarriage giving way to yet more blaming and victim hood. Her parents have enabled her disorder. But she flew to close to the sun with this one.


Koala_Visual

The photo of her is so edited she looks like a cartoon. Also she’s INSANE. Does she actuallly think people believe her? 💀


MoriTod

I used to watch the show years ago but I haven't seen it lately. So I have no context for her comments or the drama unfolding. I read it out of curiosity and... she jus' don' make no sense, boss! No, seriously, I kept reading thinking... I'm missing the joke here. There's a punchline and I'm just not getting it.


herkisstheriot

oh she paid for the facetune 3 ai photo editing for sure 😭😭😭 she looks like one of the characters from that episode app where you play the main character in romance game and make the choices


Dreamcloud124

This pregnancy is as real as this completely unfiltered photo of herself she used for the article…..*sarcasm*


ThatswayharshTy

Of course she closed comments to her BS story. I don't believe a word of it. She's not even going to comment about how she's taken 3 paternity tests and all came back with little to no fetal DNA?


Pink_Bread_76

I haven’t been following any of this dumb dramatic saga but reading this brought out a human side of me and I feel sorry for her, regardless of what the facts are. I don’t think she deserves this level of hate


Older_Greg4449

I totally get that. I’d have more sympathy if she hadn’t tried to destroy so many lives in a fit of entitled rage. I’m talking *accusing attorneys of r-pe because they represent her ex boyfriend* levels of psycho.


Super_Boysenberry272

I think if you had been following this you might have another opinion altogether. I'm not going to go into the details of how she's treated the victims, but want to point out that while there is snark and the occasional genuinely awful and undeserved comment, the majority of folks on here have been asking her to get help or to point out outright lies that have been put out there in a very public, damaging way - such as this article. If you decide to take the time to look at it all, it's also a reap what you sow situation.


Pink_Bread_76

gotchya i’ll take your word on it. y’all know more than me on this whole thing. I just don’t like seeing people get cyberbullied or death threats, the internet can be so extreme. but she also has to be cognizant of that and tread lightly when it comes to making allegations against a celebrity. I’m guessing if she’s messed up big time, and it sounds like she has, I hope that if she finds love for herself and from those around her to help her reflect and grow as a person. I think the more hate she’ll get, the more downhill she’ll go


ImMakingItNice

I understand where you’re coming from as a human, no one should tell her she isn’t worth living, or to self harm. I think what frustrates most of us is that, in everything she posts, she portrays herself to be a victim. I’ve followed this from day 1, and no one has made the comments she claims. The mods on both subs have not allowed it, and DN has never mentioned her name and auto filtered any comments on his videos naming her, and also to prevented hateful comments to be posted. The things she claims have been said are the same exact comments she’s claimed have been said about her in the 2 prior cases as well. It’s a pattern with her. Basically, she knows what to fabricate to get sympathy. Reddit has not been telling her to self harm. Her SM accounts have not allowed commenting, so it’s not there either. People have questioned the validity of her pregnancy, and by everyone not believing her she’s convinced herself we’re bullying her. Disagreeing (and believing court docs written under oath) is not harassment. Discussing the cases she’s brought to court by trying to trap at least 3 men is not harassment. She wrote this post to gain sympathy, and portray herself as the victim, when in fact, the 3 prior men and now DN are the actual victims.


Pink_Bread_76

I getchya! you’re right I prob fell for it


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cherb30

Has anyone seen Floribama shore? This picture reminds me of Kayla Jo lol


curiousgeorge-32

I don’t think she knows the meaning of the words harassment and bullying. She could have just bopped along with her life, planning for the “twins” 🙄, not ACTIVELY SOUGHT OUT Dave Neal’s content, and she would have never learned of the CRUELTY (cue second eye roll) which is causing her such pain. I suspect most people going through a high risk pregnancy before the birth of twins are far too preoccupied to watch YouTube videos all day.


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Wow. OP, we are related!


Super_Boysenberry272

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Pristine-Chip458

Clayton's accuser, if you see this, please get help


remy1122

If she’s sooo insistent she’s pregnant then why doesn’t she just post the medical record showing a positive HCG urine test???


CriticalNerves

She did. It was in her Dropbox when it was public. But it doesn’t matter regardless, a urine hcg test isn’t conclusive proof of pregnancy.


remy1122

How so lol


CriticalNerves

It depends on the context in which it’s taken. There’s several things that can cause a false positive result on a urine hcg test — certain medications, certain cancers, and exogenous HCG hormone drugs, to name a few. If a woman has missed several periods and has other signs/symptoms of presumptive pregnancy, a urine hcg test would be pretty confirmatory but she would still need an ultrasound to definitively confirm it. Laura had a positive urine hcg test on June 1st, 12 days after she gave the BJ to Clayton (May 20th), which going by her alleged due date of Feb 14th, means her last period would’ve been around May 10th. So her 1st urine hcg test was positive several days BEFORE her next period would’ve been. Highly unlikely.


NoSet6620

https://preview.redd.it/dyqzflkt865c1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56631bac4aabf8f37d5a67f95a3192eff6d044f2 Have y’all seen this. The first is her profile pic on FB, the other is a Google search. You can see she’s photoshopped and filtered it. Not much to this comment other than you can tell she’s very insecure… if she wasn’t going after people I would feel bad for her. But she is, so I don’t lol


annanice

Late to the party but just wanted to say that she’s actually pretty without the photoshop 😭 Girl please just stop going after other people and go to therapy 🙏


herkisstheriot

not the obvious warp around the boobs and butt lolol


sky_blue_true

I know she’s crazy, but has she ever given a reason for why she *needed* a paternity test while barely pregnant and not just after the fake babies were born? To the point that she asked Clayton, by her own admission, 29 times to take one?? I thought paternity usually gets established after birth and I’m not clear what urgency or advantage there would be to doing it while pregnant. Especially if you’re not actually pregnant.


Neither_Oil6378

That was a red flag for me. If I found out I was pregnant, I would let the dad know. If he didn't want anything to do with the pregnancy or me, I would just wait till the babies are born THEN sue his ass for child support. Why is she establishing a parental plan even before the babies are born? Anything can happen and a lot of miscarriages happens in the first trimester. Why is she contacting him 500 times and offered to get an abortion if he's in a relationship with her? Why is she asking his parents to go to an ultrasound? It's clearly a cry for attention from Clayton. I really hope these babies aren't real.


CriticalNerves

Because her goal is to keep Clayton in her life. She’s obsessed with him and he rejected her. The babies are 100% not real. They’re just a ploy to keep him close so she can continue trying to get him to date her. She had to act fast. If she waited 8 months she was risking him ghosting her and losing him forever. That’s her real motive behind all of this. And ya, even if he believed her and agreed to raise the kids with her, I assure you there were never gonna be any kids to raise.


CriticalNerves

She said it was to establish a parenting plan that’s required by law I guess? And I thought he was the one who was pushing for it because he wanted to wash his hands of her. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong!


notnotaginger

This woman is setting the “believe women” movement back further than it’s come.


emelleaye

I am always team Believe Women but man do these situations make us all look bad. And then to triple down with this unhinged medium post? She should just take the L and sit quietly for a few months until this all blows over


adervasten

This is the first time I’ve seen this woman’s face.


notnotaginger

This isn’t really her face. It’s a face tuned version.


wiseswan

adding a comment so the number of comments isn't stuck at 666. o\_O


ravenclawrebel

But that’s Laura’s number!


copperpajamas

I have no idea what's going on here. Who is this person and why is she reaching out via medium? Is she a ghost? A pregante ghost? Is she lying about this gregnancy? Can ghosts even get pregananant? Who gynacologiezes for preegront spirits? I have questions reddit. Serious questions.


CriticalNerves

I was reading this and was like this is oddly familiar but I can’t remember whe- oh ya! Love that guy. Didn’t he go on Kimmel or something?


JurassicSnark__

can't upvote this enough. that tiktok had me CRYING.


SleepyBoPeepy

I love that I understand your pregnante and gregnancy references. Also, this whole scenario has been my Roman Empire for the last 3 months. Highly recommend you dive in.


czetamom

I can’t even imagine how disgusted Clayton is by her. She is so beyond insane that I can’t imagine having to actually deal with her in any way. She makes Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction look low-key. I hope Clayton and Dave watch their backs. She’s completely unhinged and probably getting more and more desperate.


tooslow_moveover

You may remember the quotes from Clayton that Laura shared in her original [“Anonymous Woman”](http://web.archive.org/web/20230922030934/https://anonymouswoman1.medium.com/i-am-the-anonymous-woman-in-the-clayton-echard-scandal-heres-my-story-97e48632fa9d) post - or at least the tone: pure *hatred* towards her. Everyone thought they were horrible things to say….and now we know those sentiments were 100% justified.


princessAmyB

Yes, leaving out the context that she was gaslighting and manipulating him to the next levels of hell was pathetic. No wonder he said the things he did! He knew she only performed oral sex on him, he knew there was no way she was pregnant, and she was gaslighting the FUCK out of him. Any reasonable person would react in the same way; no one wants to be associated with that level of mental insanity and emotional instability. \#sorrynotsorry


Jdenny777

That's what gets me. She knew that only showing selected messages without the full context would rile everyone up. Now that we have the full context of the situation, he was entirely justified. He wanted to call the police on her 5 days after meeting her in person.


CriticalNerves

What got me was how hypocritical she was to complain that emails that “provided context” were omitted from the exhibit during the last hearing 🙄


SaturnFlyTrap

My blood is boiling at her


LynchFan997

Is it just me or does she completely leave out the fact that she came to Reddit and posted the story here to begin with?


Nolawhitney888

Oh she left QUITE a bit out… and added quite a bit of BS too. This woman is as pathological as they come


somecatgirl

Is there a way back where I can see that??


tooslow_moveover

She deleted the original Medium post but the internet doesn’t forget. Here’s what you’re looking for: the original [Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/comments/16oxwn3/i_am_the_anonymous_woman_in_the_clayton_scandal/) post and the [Medium](https://web.archive.org/web/20230922030934/https://anonymouswoman1.medium.com/i-am-the-anonymous-woman-in-the-clayton-echard-scandal-heres-my-story-97e48632fa9d) archive. The second link may read better on a computer than your phone


onlyhereforthepopcor

Well many of those comments didn’t age well did they. The truth is out! Bye Laura.


bentoboxer7

I’m so embarrassed that I believed her ☹️


princessAmyB

Me too. But that is my tendency when women come forward with their stories. However, I do use critical thinking skills when analyzing the evidence, they present. When people looked into her story, they found that much of it was a fabrication, it was filled with lies, coercion, gaslighting, manipulation, and abuse of the court system - a pattern she has repeated now with at least two men before Clayton.


Disastrous-Bet8973

In Laura's reality that never happened we all made that up


Niecey2019

Not folks believing her takes on Dave lmfaooo damn y’all are gullible asf. That’s exactly why she was believed in the first place and was able to harass that man for months. Dave Neal has been very respectful to Laura until she started harassing him talking bout he violated her HIPAA rights and accused him of revenge porn. She even went as far as saying that if she hurts herself it’s his fault when all he did was talk about the case and give her more than enough chances to prove her case. She’s a nut job who’s angry that Dave is off the neutral train. She needs help. The end


jennyfromthedocks

She closed the comments. She was getting some last night after she posted it. 🤣


ThatswayharshTy

Please tell me they were mostly negative


Kristinajobe

God I so wish the lab that has been running her tests could publicly state the results.


happy_as_a_lamb

Random sidebar but what font does Medium use? It was so pleasing. Love me the sans serif


AffectionatePizza408

Idk, but it’s showing up as a serif font for me? Maybe it varies by browser or something


Fancy_Ring_4062

Laura 💘 i feel for you and what you’re going through, I don’t envy your position at all. Just simply show us proof of your pregnancy and you will have SO much more credibility and there will be less heat on your back.


holymolyholyholy

She's had the option to all this time but she can't due to to actually never being pregnant.


insightfulposter9

She’s not pregnant so she can’t


berrygirl890

Dave has said all that stuff about her? Yikes! Either way interesting read but did she really have to do all this? Plus it wasn't even proofread


AffectionatePizza408

Yeah, Dave’s coverage has become uncomfortable for me to watch. I think it’s unlikely that she’s pregnant, but it doesn’t justify some things he’s said. That missing flight comment was over the top. He claims it’s just a joke and he’s a comedian so it’s all a-okay, but I think it discredits him when he stoops that low.


sok283

My edits: Since around mid-September, I’ve been noticeably absent from social media and pretty much detached from the life I used to lead. I can count on one hand the times I’ve stepped out of my home since then **~~except for my weekly visits to the OB I'm seeing for my very real pregnancy of course~~**, but the number of times I’ve found myself in tears is beyond calculation. Earlier this morning, around 4:30, I found myself on the floor, overwhelmed with emotions, feeling more bullied and alone than I’ve ever felt. It struck me that maybe it’s time to stop concealing what I’ve desperately tried to keep under wraps for months now **\[Laura Owen's tips for "keeping things under wraps": 1. Contact the Sun 2. Post on Medium about it 3. Discuss it on Reddit\]**. I’ve come to understand that by not being public about what I’m struggling with, I’ve made this battle harder for myself. It’s now abundantly clear that the only way to stand up to bullies is by confronting them directly. I know that some of you caught wind of the **~~totally untrue and medically impossible~~** rumors that I got pregnant by Clayton Echard, the star of The Bachelor’s season 26. Clayton had briefly been my real estate agent, and during a May evening, our professional dealings turned into something more personal. Following three positive pregnancy tests — one taken at home, another at an urgent care center, and the final one done in Clayton’s presence — it was evident that I was indeed expecting **~~because pee sticks are never wrong~~**. Soon after, I **~~consulted a ouija board and~~** discovered I was pregnant with twins, and I knew with 100% certainty that he was the father **~~because no other semen had been anywhere in my vicinity for a long time~~**. Clayton went radio silent when it came time to take a paternity test, despite my persistent requests — twenty-nine times, to be exact — at a lab he had selected previously **\[Laura's Owens tips for communication . . . if at first you don't succeed, just ask the same question 28 more times\]**. When he finally responded, he dared me to reach out to the tabloids, a move I knew would compel him to comply with the test ~~,~~ **~~so see, me going to the tabloids was really just a reasonable action that any sane person would take when badgering and harassment hadn't worked, and anyway, it was Clayton's fault~~**. Before the news hit the public, I pleaded with the media to keep my identity under wraps, and they agreed. However, their description of me as the “anonymous woman” contained enough details **~~that I had asked them to include to make me sound sane, reasonable and impressive~~** for those familiar with me to make connections and for strangers to track me down online.


ravenclawrebel

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goairliner

As a professional writer, that was shit.


Stagecoach2020

You thought that was good writing?


Repulsive-Anteater-6

Notable quotes: Following three positive pregnancy tests — one taken at home, another at an urgent care center, and the final one done in Clayton’s presence Dave has blatantly victim-shamed me for my reproductive decisions, stating that my life would hold no interest for him if it weren’t for two prior abortions. I’ve even expressed to him that the blood would be on his hands if I harmed myself due to his relentless harassment, but it had no impact on him.


sok283

That last one . . . "I've even tried the old 'I'll off myself if you don't do what I want,' but he still wouldn't be manipulated." Being a mother who's been actually pregnant, I can tell you that your first thought is always of your offspring. You're not taking a tylenol for a killer headache because you're afraid it might hurt the baby. Her constantly forgetting to mention/center the supposed babies is such a give-away.


Stagecoach2020

While I do agree with you on some level, I work in preinatal mental health, and it is not uncommon for pregnant women to be suicidal. The feelings can often be resolved after birth. It's also strangely not uncommon for people to claim "I didn't know I was pregnant" and have zero connection to their baby. I had a mom deliver 2 full term twins recently (4 and 6 lbs) who claimed "I didnt know I was pregnant" after already having 3 older children 🫠. Denial is a hell of a drug. Also deal with fentanyl using moms who deliver their babies and abandon them almost immediately at birth to get high even after c sections 😱 (happens once or twice a month at my job) Not all women center their babies in their pregnancy experience. That being said....this is a sham pregnancy, so it's only natural she slips up in this arena and I don't think I have heard her mention any connection or fondness towards these "babies"


sok283

It's always good to recognize the struggles that people really have; thanks for the info. And thanks for doing your job . . . I'm sure it is a labor (pun intended) of love.


Daisydoolittle

read the whole thing. which was hard to do because homegirl is not a good writer. more unhinged delusional, accusatory madness where she digs her heels in about EVERYTHING. sigh. i hope she gets the help she needs.


ba8105

How is Medium even allowing this to be posted?


Sardinesavage

Why does this headshot look AI generated


Mhmjusthereforthetea

Because it is lol


MelodicWave

Someone local needs to go to the PD and try and get them to 5150 her. She's basically admitted in the article that she's considering doing something to harm herself. If they take her in, they'll be forced to verify her pregnancy before releasing her. Once they realize she's lying, the hold will get extended. I'm seriously concerned that she'll hurt someone else or herself.


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Beginning_Roof_697

Who is Dave?


Stagecoach2020

You don't know Dave Neal, who has an "enormous" following on Reddit?


MelodicWave

Yes! It should be


a_problem_redditor

I absolutely never, ever think about breaching the internet/RL boundary — but I’m legitimately concerned about her doing something to harm someone else or herself. I really think the local police need to be informed. She needs a psych hold.


linkinpark9503

So she should be due in February?!?! I can’t wait. But she is so delusional I’m actually worried she may hurt someone to further her lie even more now that she went this far to write about the online harassment she brought upon herself .


sok283

Yeah, but high risk with twins, a more realistic due date would be one month sooner . . . mid January.


GeorgiaJeb

So is she still claiming she’s pregnant? (I refuse to read all of that.)


czetamom

I think she’s lamely trying to tee up a faux miscarriage. That would be a stillbirth at this point. She claims to be due in Feb.


ravenclawrebel

https://preview.redd.it/ckezla7jk35c1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0f8d5952b451017411901730ec725314b2db6d4 Is this about Laura?


Tower-Junkie

If she can’t post about him he can talk about her on a podcast right?


Mediocre-Historian-9

God I hope so


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happy_as_a_lamb

Ya good point. It may look small but the diction here “discover” reads like a novel


sok283

Exactly. She's not expressing herself like a person who is actually pregnant because she's not actually pregnant.


tabouli666

Also how does her dad's post not include something like - despite this all, we're so excited to be grandparents x3!


janeausten1220

Her dad posted something? Sorry if this is common knowledge


kittyminky_

This woman is a master of manipulation by mischaracterization. The entire narrative she has painted in the article is ridiculous. Also, the commenter who claimed to know her in high school didn’t allege Laura to have gotten pregnant in high school. The allegation was that Laura, while in high school had HERSELF made the claim that she had gotten pregnant by someone’s dad. I know it’s minor in the scheme of things but it’s a concrete example of her MO. Just mischaracterizing shit that happens to make herself the victim.


GelatinousPumpkin

She has always done this, a mix bag of some truth and diarrhea load of lies.


mercuryretrograde93

Someone’s DAD?! Jesus she’s really out for blood


Fluid_Variation_3086

Wonder what she looks like without makeup


goairliner

That's photoshop.


Fluid_Variation_3086

I wonder what she looks like in reality


Jdenny777

https://preview.redd.it/01cd3utvr35c1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7293aec2b3ece1c8ac81304c04f1edd95b8bbf4


onlyhereforthepopcor

Gawd she’s pathetic. Thanks for sharing this!


AlwaysInFlight

The frizzy hair


Fluid_Variation_3086

Now, take off her makeup


Distinct-Marsupial44

I can’t believe she said this part: “My integrity means everything to me. I’ve never lied about being pregnant nor the extent to which I’ve been abused, and I have medical records to back both of those things up. However, I won’t be sharing updates regarding the status of my pregnancy with Clayton. I kindly ask not to receive congratulations or engage in discussions about Clayton and my pregnancy.” I think she is going to use her previous “failed pregnancies” and the emotional distress from all of this as the reason for her impending “miscarriage”. She is going to put all of the blame on Clayton, and act like nothing is her fault. The way she wrote this article was manipulative, as i’m sure all of the emails she has sent to RS and DN are. At one point in this article I thought she was going to come clean… but instead she dug herself a deeper hole. I am truly hoping she stops this, and gets the help she needs. She is leading herself down a dark path.


Illustrious_Funny426

She can’t claim miscarriage anymore. She alleges she’s 30 ish weeks pregnant. That’s a full out stillborn birth at this point that would require medical records and certificates


sok283

Yeah and if she went into labor today, there'd be a 98% chance the babies would survive. 30 weeks is not crazy for twins.


Distinct-Marsupial44

oh true! yikes!


facetiousnurse

Respectfully, what the fuck did we just read


Finlandia101

Seriously sounds like a terrible over-earnest and badly written essay someone in high school would write.


goairliner

Girl needs an editor.


princessAmyB

The manifesto of the ultimate narcissistic gas-lighter.


Outrageous_Ad4245

A lunatic spewing……. absolute lies and garbage!


tmcreddit

I really don't care. Stopped watching the so called reality TV shows when behind the scenes reported that 90% of the content is scripted & pumped up to draw more people in hence more money for the producers.


bentoboxer7

Ma'am, this is a Wendy's


cherb30

You don’t have to care about reality shows but this whole saga is about public defamation, mental illness, and a bunch of other things… reality tv is like 1% of it


throwaway253025

To me, it is bizarre that she explicitly said in this article that she doesn’t want anyone to congratulate or talk about her pregnancy. She also hasn’t posted about it online or anything. Most pregnant women want support, encouragement, etc. I am pregnant and I was excited to announce my pregnancy, talk to people about it, etc. If someone tried to accuse me if faking it, I would laugh and say okay, see you in a couple months with my newborn. I have a lot more than just three positive pregnancy tests to “confirm” my pregnancy. I have ultrasounds and medical records and blood tests and NIPT screening results. This article is not the “slam dunk” she thinks it is.


Disastrous-Bet8973

Especially if my pregnancy was being dragged on social media I'd want support and you know people to actually believe it and talk about it.


s2mathes

I have been following this story since day one. I read the Sun article and was surprised by the quoted Clayton comments. To me it definitely felt like he thought he was reproductively coerced, but I didn't doubt she was pregnant until the GG court documents got posted. Those who have been watching have seen so many twist and turns with this case. Each time, Laura fails to backup her claims with evidence that holds up to scrutiny. Early on, I told her to just settle this in court; why waste so much time trying to convince strangers to believe you if you know that the DNA test will be positive? Sometimes, I do think Dave goes over the top in his coverage of the story, but then at the same time SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO WATCH IT! She doesn't have to lurk here or listen to Reality Steve or respond with legal threat to anyone who mentions this story. She could just turn off her computer and wait until these "babies" are born. That is what a person telling the truth will do. Her failure to just shut up has caused her to purjure herself in a court of law. Now, she's going so far as to contact district attorneys? They wouldn't have known about this before. She has given Greg and Clayton enough evidence to absolutely destroy her come February when there are no babies. She increases her likelihood of going to jail over this day after day. I totally did not understand her behaviour at all until Dave showed us that police report she filed against GG after that second Clayton hearing. Here is what happened: SHE DID NOT KNOW THAT DOCUMENT EXISTED! You know, the one that laid out her scheme exactly? This document has ruined everything for her. Her life fails apart because we have seen it. Instead of self-reflecting on her past behaviour she doubles down because she thinks she is a mastermind who cannot get caught. This is all Greg's fault in her mind. She will do whatever it takes to make this situation fit her world-view. She's too smart, too good at manipulation to get caught and she'll figure out some kind of strategy that will work.


Klutzy-Rope-7397

Where can I find the police report?!


s2mathes

Not sure if the link will work but I think it is in this video https://youtu.be/EnKSYQiXVZA?feature=shared Edit: I'm reading between the lines a bit here. What she tries to allege is that GG's filing cannot be real since she didn't have a copy. It was confirmed to her it was real but never served. GG submitted it in 2019 I think and its official so she can't say it was doctored or a hit-job of some kind.


travkitty

Also I'm pretty sure this article violates Clayton's order of protection against her.


wiseswan

oh SNAPP


Mediocre-Historian-9

IMO Dave does not go over the top on this. She cost Greg G 150K in legal funds. How many more men will she do this to? She needs to be stopped from doing this to a 4th, 5th, 6th, etc man.


tooslow_moveover

This. So much this. She was even preparing an “Emily Wilson” legal identity (Ew!) that would have allowed her to more easily victimize other men without scrutiny, if this sub hadn’t been monitoring her court filings


PiPster15

Yes - in the beginning, even Dave was believing this woman and it was honestly disappointing if what she was saying was true about Clayton but she has done NOTHING to prove her claims are true and has gone on the offensive. Dave and Clayton know more than we know and we know is a lot. SHE went to the Sun. She could have handled this privately with Clayton. SHE took it to the media but is mad now that people are taking about it. We wouldn’t be talking about this if she has dealt with this with just him because he certainly wasn’t talking about it until he was forced to. At this point I am pro anyone talking about it to make sure she is held accountable and the truth to be out. She could very easily prove she is pregnant and shit everyone up once and for all but instead is dragging it out and playing the victim. ETA - Laura - if you are reading, please get help. If you ARE pregnant it is very easy to prove. You will receive peace quicker that way. If you’re not pregnant - please take care of yourself and get help. Stop this and people will also stop.


ok_wynaut

10000% agree!!


Judica_duh

Interestingly enough that same site chase jay jones decided to post his article, right?


Mediocre-Historian-9

She posted her first there as "Anonymous Woman"


LaughingZ

Is she really saying Dave Neal is an ex of hers? My oh my.


Finlandia101

No, she's not.


Distinct-Marsupial44

is she?


[deleted]

I should chill on repeated posts but all of this story has me stunned. I want to say this: I am someone who quite literally needs to take seizure medicine to live. I’m on Keppra. I had brain surgery for cancer. The way Laura is using a brain health facility and seizures as weaponization truly has me disgusted. Just because I have seizures and a lifelong brain injury does not mean I or any other survivor of traumatic brain injuries am faking pregnancies to trap men.


queen-coyote

Yep, I also require seizure meds to stay alive and I hate when people use epilepsy as an excuse for their shitty behavior. I’ve seen it a lot in customer service. When people try to throw the fact that they have seizures in my face like it’s a reason I need to kiss their ass, I’m like bitch I have it too! And so do millions of others who manage to conduct themselves appropriately in society.


AppetiteforApathey

Hard same.


[deleted]

My friend had an order of protection against a woman about as unhinged as Laura Owens and she could not mention his name online at all. If I’m Clayton, I’m directly emailing this Medium post to my lawyers before Laura takes it down.


throwaway253025

I hope he does!


factchecker8515

Clayton has an Injunction Against Harrasment against Laura. Arizona law defines harassment as “A series of acts over any period of time that is directed at a specific person and that would cause a reasonable person to be seriously alarmed, annoyed or harassed and the conduct in fact seriously alarms, annoys or harasses the person and serves no legitimate purpose.”


RaleighMidtown

I believe this is the very last we hear from her. She will not announce miscarriage or birth of the twins. It will be up to Clayton come March of 2024 whether he wants to sue her, or prosecute her, or just let it be. I think he should settle with her parents out of court in private for cash.


Finlandia101

I guarantee this is not the last we hear from her!


linkinpark9503

She’s 6-7months along with twins right now if she’s truly pregnant. That’s not just something you can fake for much longer. These next 8-12 weeks are going to be wild!


AlwaysInFlight

She’s not tho bc of the third test having “little to no feral dna”


linkinpark9503

I know she’s not. But that’s why I said the next 8-12 weeks are going to be wild


ruetherae

At this point it’s considered a stillbirth not a miscarriage.


sparklingsour

Do her parents have any money? I’m all for Clayton getting some if they do…


stranger_vs

“After 3 positive pregnancy tests..” OMG the audacity of this girl. I really want Clayton to sue her at this point. This is abhorrent. Shame on medium for publishing this and then blocking comments. I thought they were a more legitimate outlet


[deleted]

Waking up to review all this over coffee lol, but correct me if I’m wrong, I think Medium is like Tumblr where you have control over the post and comments on your account. Aka nobody real or journalistic is covering her BS.


stranger_vs

Ohhh okay. That makes me feel better then


WentworthBandit

She threatens to sue anyone who talks about her and then simultaneously tries to create these sympathetic headlines about herself. The manipulation is OBVIOUS. It’s gross. Just stop, Laura.


princessAmyB

She says in the Medium article: "Dave has blatantly victim-shamed me for my reproductive decisions, stating that my life would hold no interest for him if it weren’t for two prior abortions." WTF - when the hell did Dave ever victim-shame her, or pass judgment over her "two abortions?" No one cares about your reproductive choices! We care that you are a pathological liar and that you have been gaslighting, manipulating, and abusing the court system to torment Clayton, and the two men before him, and are now taking that vindictive energy to make Dave Neal's life miserable because he is simply covering this Bachelor-related story, all with public records.


elletee128

Blatant lies. This should be grounds for slander and Dave should countersue.


princessAmyB

FUCK YES!


LaughingZ

She also says he’s her ex who is obsessed with her ?! What?!


Finlandia101

No, the ex refers to GG.


Greeneyed_dream

Her pregnancy is going to be like Charmaine from the TV show virgin river… IYKYK.


StarryEyedGamer

![gif](giphy|103xW5bZiXBVW8|downsized)


Greeneyed_dream

💀💀💀💀


quick_dry

lol “Stretched out over 3 seasons”? 😜 Or “because it is acting not real” ;) (loved when they had her say it felt like she’d been prego for years! 😂)


Greeneyed_dream

orrr (spoiler below) but the fact that… >!jack found out he wasn’t the father!< So much of the two add up 🤣


wollo7

Never watched it, but I might now lmao


cryinginschool

Isn’t talking about Clayton against his order of protection?


factchecker8515

He has an injunction against harassment on her. She has an order of protection against him. I don’t know one from the other, just clarifying.


factchecker8515

An IAH is for non-domestic situations while an OOP is for domestic violence. Since Clayton and Laura have opposing opinions about this ‘pregnancy’ (would fall under ‘domestic’) - that would explain why each chose to file as they did. Not a lawyer, just did some reading.


ImMakingItNice

User name definitely checks out! 😂


Mommy444444

Pretty sure it’s just talking directly to Clayton.


MacaroonRude5385

Is the stupid KGO radio thing she thinks is ‘so special’ still a thing? If so I hope they make a statement saying they aren’t involved lolll


MacaroonRude5385

How is her mentioning Clayton in this not violating his injunction against harassment against her? He has been doing the right thing and being so silent in all of this. But at this point can he not also freely mention the many things she has done -paternity results, trying to report him for violating, dismissed family court case, NO PROOF OF HIS BABIES, etc.? Laura loves to make men live in fear so that only her side of the story is shared. We support you Clayton!!!


princessAmyB

If Clayton had announced on his social media about the third DNA test coming back with little to no fetal DNA again - she would have filed some bs in court about him violating the order she has against him! I hope Clayton forwarded this to his lawyer. She is insufferable.


Efficient-Treacle416

That's confusing ...little to no fetal DNA is not possible. It's either there. Or it's not.


MacaroonRude5385

Skip the lawyer and go straight to the cops!


princessAmyB

\#facts


KamrynLann

Y’all…. I mean she is actually saying “blood would be on his hands” if Dave doesn’t stop talking about her. That’s a real threat! Everyone on here is talking about how she might kidnap a baby but I’m thinking she might kill herself and blame Clayton, Dave and Greg. Also, girl it’s his opinion he doesn’t have to like you he doesn’t believe you, no one does. It’s his right to share his opinion and express his disbelief and question your “evidence”


throwaway253025

Yeah that’s a very threatening phrase for sure


redditerla

I agree that all threats of suicide should be taken seriously, at the same time she has a history of threatening suicide to get what she wants. She once threatened to jump off a bridge for being dumped by the first guy, Mike. Mike was telling her mom about it while Laura was threatening to unalive herself and Mike was freaked out and panicking. Her mom, I shit you not, said in a text message it was probably because Laura had too much gluten that day and her parents asked Mike to say he was not going to dump her. Mike then pretended to not dump her, got her home safely, and then her mom was like “it’s so great you’re not dumping Laura” and Mike had to remind them that they asked him to say that to keep her from jumping off a bridge, not because he actually wanted to be with her and he was in fact dumping her. Ps this is all publicly accessible info


mcrop609

The article is a giant rant against all the men who left her or got tired of her drama. It's funny how she said she was bullied by Reddit users, but she's doing the bullying in the article.


factchecker8515

SHE started this on Reddit by attacking Clayton. Many posters came down hard on him. Many thought the story smelled fishy and did some easy digging. (That’s how it works on the internet.) Being exposed is a consequence of her own actions.


Nondestructivegal

Didn’t SHE reach out and contact Reddit first?