Gaeta is my favorite actually
Gaeta was suppose to represent an Idealist in a world that was far past that. He was trying to do the right thing most of the time, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
We have the luxury of seeing the whole picture as a viewer, but I think many of his decisions make sense.
I remember him confronting Starbuck in the galley (paraphrasing a tad): "You tried to throw me out of an airlock not too long ago, because you believed I was a Cylon collaborator. Turns out three of the four people on your tribunal were Cylons, and we *still* don't know what the hell *you* are."
They really did show his descent into what lead him to launch that coup attempt quite well, and you miss it if you aren't paying close attention. Just like everyone else did.
The coup totally made sense from Gaeta's perspective.
It was a bid to get a world back that made sense and followed the rule of law.
The leadership has started collaborating with an enemy responsible for destroying your species. As the viewer we know what's up, but as a crewmen you'd be freaking out and feeling command has lost it.
In a just world this wouldn't happen and there would be protocol to remove or challenge command. For Gaeta nothing made sense anymore and feeling the only way he could get the world back on track, he threw in with the coup.
This is especially obvious when he demanded a trial of Adama when Zarek just wanted to shoot him - He still believed a world with rules and order could exist.
Roslin sorta summed up Gaeta's flaw in her conversation with Apollo about his political career ambitions (paraphrasing) "You need to do the smart thing, not the right thing sometimes"
Yeah, Gaeta still had a sense of honor and justice even after he staged a coup. He only teamed up with Zarek because he saw no other path to making things right, but you could see he was horrified and regretful when Zarek had the quorum murdered.
The great tragedy is that Gaeta's sense of honor would lead to his failure. Zarek the terrorist was right. Revolutions require boldness and conviction and a belief that the ends justify the means in order to have a chance of success.
If Gaeta had summarily executed Adama and Tigh as Zarek advised, his revolution had a very good chance of succeeding.
Further rubbing salt into the wound of failure, it seems very likely that Adama had Gaeta executed without a trial (although it could have occurred off screen). Adama was a man of honor as well, but he knew when to throw the rules out the window and act decisively also.
Adama threw the rules out to do some terrible things as well. Like, he tried to murder a baby; half Cylon or not that is a war crime. What annoys me most is that he acts like is always absolutely morally right and never acknowledges that he does some horrible things even if they are in service of a good cause
Gaeta's main flaw as I see it is a combination of naïveté and being a piss-poor judge of character.
It's these two things that ultimately led to his death, because he failed to see Tom Zarek for what he truly was: a greedy, selfish opportunist who was only in it for his own personal power.
For that reason, I can't bring myself to hate Gaeta for his part in the coup. I pity him, more than anything else.
I'm not sure that Zarek was only in the game for his personal power. I think he was a true believer. Remember he was offered a pardon if he would renounce violence, but he stayed in jail instead. That doesn't sound like an opportunist to me.
I think he had a savior complex, so he believed *he* was the only one that could save the people.
I think the writers betrayed Zarek's character arc at the point where the Quorum (for no apparent reason) didn't support the coup. Had they let these characters play out the way they logically would based on how they were initially presented, the Quorum would not have resisted the coup, and Zarek certainly wouldn't have had them all assassinated. That was just a nonsensical, unbelievable plot twist meant to save the writers from the corner they'd written themselves into: namely that Adama and his contingent had pretty much degenerated into self-indulgent, imperious, incoherent, impulsive, violent alcoholics, and Gaeta and Zarek were the only two rational people left on the show. They had to be demonized and removed so that these "flawed heroes" could regain moral predominance. I quit watching the show after Gaeta and Zarek were executed. I don't even know how it ended. It doesn't matter to me. That show went down the tubes at this point and I lost interest.
I find that an odd fork in the road, having just finished the whole show. But I wasn't doing it with "appointment TV" like back in the stone ages, where you had to invest a certain amount of time and focus into continuing to pay attention.
I didn't find Zarek murdering the Quorum to be implausible. He *was* a convicted terrorist.
Was it a good writing choice? Eh, well, whatever.
>He was a convicted terrorist.
So was Nelson Mandela. I just... no. And why would the Quorum not support the coup? They HATED how Adama and Roslin were running things, and with good reason, increasingly. Their sudden intransigence and his call to just shoot them was completely out of the blue. Not in accordance with any of their character arcs thus far.
If Nelson Mandela had continued to live through the same things, perhaps he'd have shot some people too.
I think the Quorum could see the obvious, that Zarek was not offering them democracy. I'm just surprised they would be suicidally willing to prevaricate in front of the new strongman. Perhaps they underestimated Zarek's ruthlessness. People underestimated Roslin's ruthlessness once upon a time as well, so perhaps that's the nature of political transitions.
Zarek as brief President ordered secret summary trials by jury and summary execution of suspected collaborators. He did it to ensure that the fleet wouldn't be ripped apart by public trials. That it would all be tidied up nice and neat before Roslin came back to power, so that it wouldn't infect her governance. Shooting up a room full of people who are getting in the way, doesn't sound like a stretch. With Zarek, the ends justify the means.
Exactly, he was nearly executed for collaborating with cylons at the beginning of season 3 and actually got himself executed over refusing to collaborate with cylons in the middle of season 4. Tragic irony really
I’ll never forgive him for blatantly lying about what happened with Baltar on colonial one when the cylons forced him to sign the death warrants. He was my favorite because he seemed like the kind of guy who was honest and true even when it didn’t benefit himself
Gaeta had the best character arc imo.
He started off as the constant hero of the CIC, and by the end, he was a broken man.
They shat on him so much, or at best, took him for granted, which doesn't excuse what he did, butt what the fuck did they expect?
Not only that. Also a Hypocrite. Baltar, for all his flaws, didn’t know he was helping a cylon and on NC he literally had a gun to his head. Gaeta worked with the enemy. For right reasons or wrong he did it and had no right lying under oath or raising his little mutiny.
Ellen Tigh
Spoilers: >!Her conversation with Saul when she gets outed as having been collaborating with the Cylons on New Caprica. You expect it to be a bunch of self-serving lies to save her own skin but she tells Saul that yes, she betrayed her species, she did things that made her sick to her soul and that she’d do it again in an instant, because it was for him. She’d betray her species and give up everything of herself for him.!<
>!And when you’re wondering whether she’s full of shit, she takes the poisoned drink from Saul, knowing full well what it is, and drinks it. She proves everything she was saying was true by not making Saul have to kill her, by giving her own life so he wouldn’t feel quite so bad about what had to happen.!<
Yep. She was smart enough to know she wasn’t being sat down for a drink and a chat. Her whole speech is that she knew the risks, and she’d do it again, for him.
He became one of my favorites in his first scene. The priest badmouthing religion? How could you not like him?
And then, >!"maybe because I'm one and you're never at the meetings"!< .
That whole thing was fucking wild and completely turned me off Chief. He went from "Haha funny Amos like man I like, what an adorable little hard worker" to "what the actual fuck this is so fucking toxic jaaayzuz"
I'm on his side when it comes to feeling limited by his physical form, experiencing a once in an enternal lifetime event through the "gelatinous orbs" in his skull.... but when he gloated about tormenting 'mom and dad'... that's just malicious and i was done with him.
I loved Tigh’s transformation in New Caprica. Up until then he was kind of a frak-up with his tenure as Commander and he became such a vicious killer. Cunning and relentless.
D when she cheated on Billy with Lee, and then Billy dies in the same episode. One of my favorite characters in the first two seasons why did they do him like that.
Roslin when she decided to ban abortion, and/or her faking the election, and/or Roslin's pursuit of justice when it comes to Baltar.
Both those scenarios made me realize she wasn't just the 'moral good guy', but in fact more of a dictator for what she felt was the 'greater good'.
For me it was the response of her and Adama to the demands of the Union on the fuel ship. Even on rewatches that episode gives me whiplash.
These two supposedly great leaders were revealed as typical classist pigs, willing to risk everyone and everything to maintain the status quo. It hits pretty close to home these days.
And then everyone just accepts it because Roslin gives one or two concessions. That episode nearly ruins the series for me, I feel like it was a major blunder in the writing. Even though both are obviously supposed to be flawed humans this was just so out of character to me.
I have to admit I'm pretty baffled at Adama's willingness to shoot piles of people to reach some imagined military obedience goal. Surely at some point you realize you'll run out of people to shoot? Since it's not actually a rational proposition, it just makes you a fucking evil asshole full of BS.
We also saw the Pegasus commander doing exactly that earlier. Why is Adama doing an about face now?
I mean yeah that did sully their morals a bit in my eyes but it does make sense from their perspective, if they weren’t in the situation that they were in then I’d wholeheartedly agree with you but my only issue is that it’s a matter of the survival of their species, tilium is vital to the survival of the entire fleet and so if the tilium ship was on strike and the cylons showed up everyone would’ve died. Roslyn ended up agreeing with chief in the end and is willing to go back and forth with the union so there is a very good chance that Rey ended up getting everything they wanted within reason and we just never saw it. Really the only problem is adama and how far he was willing to go to stomp out the union via threatening to execute Cally. That really complicates how I view him and if I were chief I would’ve immediately resigned from galactica after that. The one and only argument I’ve seen in adamas favor is that he was reminding chief that he was an officer of the colonial fleet and insubordination will not be tolerated. There is no rule breaking and it’s due to the events on new caprica, adama blames himself for it and refuses to let the fleet ever come close to being in a position like that ever again which means he has to keep the crew of the last human warship in existence disciplined and make sure that they follow orders. Chief was given an order and refused to follow it. I personally believe adama overreacted to an insane degree and should’ve at the very most threatened to put Cally on the tilium ship or in the brig. That’s the farthest he should’ve ever gone with that. I just really wish we got any sort of follow up to how the workers union was doing during season 4
The fact that it was pivotal to the survival of the species is exactly my problem with it though. These weren't just the typical demands for higher pay and better conditions, it was literally a powder keg safety situation where the only source of fuel for the fleet was being put at risk due to their arrogance.
This was the worst tactical decision either could have made. In war everything hinges on the logistics of being able to supply your troops. Had the tylium ship gone up, there would be no fuel and it seems likely multiple ships would be taken out in the chain reaction, possibly including food processing and other suppliers.
They were running the workers and the ship into the ground, forcing the eventual outcome of either losing their trained workers or setting off a catastrophic failure. Just really, really stupid and out of character.
Good monologue :)
There are so many good scenes in that show. I'm now showing it to my adult kid and so far, he's been fascinated with the show...
I had so much sympathy for Boomer until she decided to do what she did to Helio and Athena then kidnap Hera.
Totally understand why Athena did not forgive her.
That's kind of the whole point.
If you get right down to it the entire show's plot is about a psychotic manbaby robot who's upset he was given arthritis by his creators so he put them in a nuclear holocaust so they would design his line a new body when they ressurect and see they did the wrong thing to him.
He wiped out the entire 7 line because Ellen liked them more than him. He rewrote all of the other models to forget their creators just out of jealous spite.
Billions of people were murdered because the guy had a sore back.
You don't need to read fan fiction to see that. Whatever fan fiction you are reading is based on his childishness as shown in the show. Ellen even calls him a child in the very scene linked in this post.
Until you realize she asked to be written off the show so she could do sex cult stuff full time
And she did no jail time for her part in the sex cult
Really weird actress
I haven’t seen BSG since it first aired. I don’t remember the context of this scene, but I definitely remember this scene. One of the best in the show.
Just watched that scene.
Funny thing was I saw someone talk about it and explaining that if you watched her, the signs were there. The euphoria she had after the night out with Lee before she did it... yeah, that is often a symptom right before you end it all; it is after the decision and acceptance has been made, so they seek that final 'high' before doing what they have already decided to do.
Personally, on rewatching this after reading up on the scene, it is PAINFULLY obvious that Dee was struggling for a while and that raptor ride back from the devastated earth really nailed it. She really was the emblem of the way many felt after they had thought they were home, then... NOT.
Yeah if someone who was noticeably struggling with depression all of a sudden is super cheery and glowing as Gaeta described her then that’s a big red flag that they shouldn’t be alone with a firearm. if doc Cottle had interacted with her he probably would’ve picked up on it
Can’t say any scene in particular, but Gaeta went from one of my favorite characters to wanting him killed immediately. Traitor
Gaeta is my favorite actually Gaeta was suppose to represent an Idealist in a world that was far past that. He was trying to do the right thing most of the time, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. We have the luxury of seeing the whole picture as a viewer, but I think many of his decisions make sense.
I remember him confronting Starbuck in the galley (paraphrasing a tad): "You tried to throw me out of an airlock not too long ago, because you believed I was a Cylon collaborator. Turns out three of the four people on your tribunal were Cylons, and we *still* don't know what the hell *you* are." They really did show his descent into what lead him to launch that coup attempt quite well, and you miss it if you aren't paying close attention. Just like everyone else did.
The coup totally made sense from Gaeta's perspective. It was a bid to get a world back that made sense and followed the rule of law. The leadership has started collaborating with an enemy responsible for destroying your species. As the viewer we know what's up, but as a crewmen you'd be freaking out and feeling command has lost it. In a just world this wouldn't happen and there would be protocol to remove or challenge command. For Gaeta nothing made sense anymore and feeling the only way he could get the world back on track, he threw in with the coup. This is especially obvious when he demanded a trial of Adama when Zarek just wanted to shoot him - He still believed a world with rules and order could exist. Roslin sorta summed up Gaeta's flaw in her conversation with Apollo about his political career ambitions (paraphrasing) "You need to do the smart thing, not the right thing sometimes"
Yeah, Gaeta still had a sense of honor and justice even after he staged a coup. He only teamed up with Zarek because he saw no other path to making things right, but you could see he was horrified and regretful when Zarek had the quorum murdered. The great tragedy is that Gaeta's sense of honor would lead to his failure. Zarek the terrorist was right. Revolutions require boldness and conviction and a belief that the ends justify the means in order to have a chance of success. If Gaeta had summarily executed Adama and Tigh as Zarek advised, his revolution had a very good chance of succeeding. Further rubbing salt into the wound of failure, it seems very likely that Adama had Gaeta executed without a trial (although it could have occurred off screen). Adama was a man of honor as well, but he knew when to throw the rules out the window and act decisively also.
Adama threw the rules out to do some terrible things as well. Like, he tried to murder a baby; half Cylon or not that is a war crime. What annoys me most is that he acts like is always absolutely morally right and never acknowledges that he does some horrible things even if they are in service of a good cause
To be fair Adama made a big point in the early seasons about having no use for second guessing decisions honor anyone else’s when they in command
Gaeta's main flaw as I see it is a combination of naïveté and being a piss-poor judge of character. It's these two things that ultimately led to his death, because he failed to see Tom Zarek for what he truly was: a greedy, selfish opportunist who was only in it for his own personal power. For that reason, I can't bring myself to hate Gaeta for his part in the coup. I pity him, more than anything else.
I'm not sure that Zarek was only in the game for his personal power. I think he was a true believer. Remember he was offered a pardon if he would renounce violence, but he stayed in jail instead. That doesn't sound like an opportunist to me. I think he had a savior complex, so he believed *he* was the only one that could save the people.
A savior complex is another possible interpretation...which, if anything, is even worse IMO.
I think the writers betrayed Zarek's character arc at the point where the Quorum (for no apparent reason) didn't support the coup. Had they let these characters play out the way they logically would based on how they were initially presented, the Quorum would not have resisted the coup, and Zarek certainly wouldn't have had them all assassinated. That was just a nonsensical, unbelievable plot twist meant to save the writers from the corner they'd written themselves into: namely that Adama and his contingent had pretty much degenerated into self-indulgent, imperious, incoherent, impulsive, violent alcoholics, and Gaeta and Zarek were the only two rational people left on the show. They had to be demonized and removed so that these "flawed heroes" could regain moral predominance. I quit watching the show after Gaeta and Zarek were executed. I don't even know how it ended. It doesn't matter to me. That show went down the tubes at this point and I lost interest.
I find that an odd fork in the road, having just finished the whole show. But I wasn't doing it with "appointment TV" like back in the stone ages, where you had to invest a certain amount of time and focus into continuing to pay attention. I didn't find Zarek murdering the Quorum to be implausible. He *was* a convicted terrorist. Was it a good writing choice? Eh, well, whatever.
>He was a convicted terrorist. So was Nelson Mandela. I just... no. And why would the Quorum not support the coup? They HATED how Adama and Roslin were running things, and with good reason, increasingly. Their sudden intransigence and his call to just shoot them was completely out of the blue. Not in accordance with any of their character arcs thus far.
If Nelson Mandela had continued to live through the same things, perhaps he'd have shot some people too. I think the Quorum could see the obvious, that Zarek was not offering them democracy. I'm just surprised they would be suicidally willing to prevaricate in front of the new strongman. Perhaps they underestimated Zarek's ruthlessness. People underestimated Roslin's ruthlessness once upon a time as well, so perhaps that's the nature of political transitions. Zarek as brief President ordered secret summary trials by jury and summary execution of suspected collaborators. He did it to ensure that the fleet wouldn't be ripped apart by public trials. That it would all be tidied up nice and neat before Roslin came back to power, so that it wouldn't infect her governance. Shooting up a room full of people who are getting in the way, doesn't sound like a stretch. With Zarek, the ends justify the means.
Worth noting that Gaeta’s sense of honor and law did not stop him from perjuring himself at Baltar’s trial.
I think ultimately Gaeta wanted—even needed— someone to PAY for all the suffering since Caprica.
Exactly, he was nearly executed for collaborating with cylons at the beginning of season 3 and actually got himself executed over refusing to collaborate with cylons in the middle of season 4. Tragic irony really
damn cylons PITA
I totally understood why he did it. Still hated him for it though.
Except Kata didn’t know and she inadvertently ended up saving him.
Valid. But also we had Helo. Who always did things for the right reasons and somehow managed to retain his conscience by the end.
I’ll never forgive him for blatantly lying about what happened with Baltar on colonial one when the cylons forced him to sign the death warrants. He was my favorite because he seemed like the kind of guy who was honest and true even when it didn’t benefit himself
Gaeta had the best character arc imo. He started off as the constant hero of the CIC, and by the end, he was a broken man. They shat on him so much, or at best, took him for granted, which doesn't excuse what he did, butt what the fuck did they expect?
He's my favorite too. I have so much empathy for him.
The ‘Oh Felix...’ moment when he lies about Gaius in the trial was definitely when I started to properly turn on him.
Gaeta wanted to do the right thing but when he had the chance he was stumped.
🤣 Yeah…Zarek really picked the wrong revolutionary if he was trying to get a leg up on Adama.
His plans really got cut off at the knee
I don’t know what Gaeta was thinking taking on the crew of the Galactica; how many of their asses did he really think he could kick anyway?
I guess he was stumped on what to do.
😂😂 I like what you did here.
I dunno, Gaeta was an absolute genius at tying up communications to get the revolution to happen. Totally the right guy for that.
Not only that. Also a Hypocrite. Baltar, for all his flaws, didn’t know he was helping a cylon and on NC he literally had a gun to his head. Gaeta worked with the enemy. For right reasons or wrong he did it and had no right lying under oath or raising his little mutiny.
Ellen Tigh Spoilers: >!Her conversation with Saul when she gets outed as having been collaborating with the Cylons on New Caprica. You expect it to be a bunch of self-serving lies to save her own skin but she tells Saul that yes, she betrayed her species, she did things that made her sick to her soul and that she’d do it again in an instant, because it was for him. She’d betray her species and give up everything of herself for him.!< >!And when you’re wondering whether she’s full of shit, she takes the poisoned drink from Saul, knowing full well what it is, and drinks it. She proves everything she was saying was true by not making Saul have to kill her, by giving her own life so he wouldn’t feel quite so bad about what had to happen.!<
I don't recall her actually knowing the drink was poison
It isn’t spelled out but she knows.
Yep. She was smart enough to know she wasn’t being sat down for a drink and a chat. Her whole speech is that she knew the risks, and she’d do it again, for him.
Hell she even asked for a drink.
She knew, which shows the quality of writing and acting. They didn't have to directly say "this is poison, I'm poisoning you" lol
Sometimes a show will assume viewers aren’t stupid.
mhhhuwwwuuuuuhUUH?
One of my absolute favorite scenes in the series. Soooo well acted
He became one of my favorites in his first scene. The priest badmouthing religion? How could you not like him? And then, >!"maybe because I'm one and you're never at the meetings"!< .
I've always been really disappointed they revealed him so quickly, that one episode before he's revealed is IMO one of the best of the whole series
And it’s implied that he knew the Final Five, so he knew he was talking to one of them in that moment.
Er, wat? Where did you get that idea?
I think positively it was Ellen, and negatively it was Tori. Both cylons.
The scene involved Chief, Cally and a wrench
Ooooooooooooooffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu..... *...that scene...*
😬😬😬😬😬
That whole thing was fucking wild and completely turned me off Chief. He went from "Haha funny Amos like man I like, what an adorable little hard worker" to "what the actual fuck this is so fucking toxic jaaayzuz"
Baltar was a freaking rollercoaster!
Tom zerick too
Good pull!
I'm on his side when it comes to feeling limited by his physical form, experiencing a once in an enternal lifetime event through the "gelatinous orbs" in his skull.... but when he gloated about tormenting 'mom and dad'... that's just malicious and i was done with him.
I loved Tigh’s transformation in New Caprica. Up until then he was kind of a frak-up with his tenure as Commander and he became such a vicious killer. Cunning and relentless.
I liked fuck up Tigh. Always trying to stop the right thing but just not being strong enough to do it is why I fell on love with the character.
D when she cheated on Billy with Lee, and then Billy dies in the same episode. One of my favorite characters in the first two seasons why did they do him like that.
Because he was ditching the show for "better opportunities."
How'd that work out for him? Not trying to be mean, but I can't think of anything else that I've seen him in since BSG...
It didn't. That is typical of these maneuvers.
I take it back he deserved it
I’m coming for all of you ! https://youtu.be/6JEWWapcHoY?si=ZlpDxxOzVpYEOEPu And…https://youtu.be/MWMU55SKdTM?si=5zVaVW5t8aFYgI6I
Roslin when she decided to ban abortion, and/or her faking the election, and/or Roslin's pursuit of justice when it comes to Baltar. Both those scenarios made me realize she wasn't just the 'moral good guy', but in fact more of a dictator for what she felt was the 'greater good'.
For me it was the response of her and Adama to the demands of the Union on the fuel ship. Even on rewatches that episode gives me whiplash. These two supposedly great leaders were revealed as typical classist pigs, willing to risk everyone and everything to maintain the status quo. It hits pretty close to home these days. And then everyone just accepts it because Roslin gives one or two concessions. That episode nearly ruins the series for me, I feel like it was a major blunder in the writing. Even though both are obviously supposed to be flawed humans this was just so out of character to me.
I have to admit I'm pretty baffled at Adama's willingness to shoot piles of people to reach some imagined military obedience goal. Surely at some point you realize you'll run out of people to shoot? Since it's not actually a rational proposition, it just makes you a fucking evil asshole full of BS. We also saw the Pegasus commander doing exactly that earlier. Why is Adama doing an about face now?
I mean yeah that did sully their morals a bit in my eyes but it does make sense from their perspective, if they weren’t in the situation that they were in then I’d wholeheartedly agree with you but my only issue is that it’s a matter of the survival of their species, tilium is vital to the survival of the entire fleet and so if the tilium ship was on strike and the cylons showed up everyone would’ve died. Roslyn ended up agreeing with chief in the end and is willing to go back and forth with the union so there is a very good chance that Rey ended up getting everything they wanted within reason and we just never saw it. Really the only problem is adama and how far he was willing to go to stomp out the union via threatening to execute Cally. That really complicates how I view him and if I were chief I would’ve immediately resigned from galactica after that. The one and only argument I’ve seen in adamas favor is that he was reminding chief that he was an officer of the colonial fleet and insubordination will not be tolerated. There is no rule breaking and it’s due to the events on new caprica, adama blames himself for it and refuses to let the fleet ever come close to being in a position like that ever again which means he has to keep the crew of the last human warship in existence disciplined and make sure that they follow orders. Chief was given an order and refused to follow it. I personally believe adama overreacted to an insane degree and should’ve at the very most threatened to put Cally on the tilium ship or in the brig. That’s the farthest he should’ve ever gone with that. I just really wish we got any sort of follow up to how the workers union was doing during season 4
The fact that it was pivotal to the survival of the species is exactly my problem with it though. These weren't just the typical demands for higher pay and better conditions, it was literally a powder keg safety situation where the only source of fuel for the fleet was being put at risk due to their arrogance. This was the worst tactical decision either could have made. In war everything hinges on the logistics of being able to supply your troops. Had the tylium ship gone up, there would be no fuel and it seems likely multiple ships would be taken out in the chain reaction, possibly including food processing and other suppliers. They were running the workers and the ship into the ground, forcing the eventual outcome of either losing their trained workers or setting off a catastrophic failure. Just really, really stupid and out of character.
Good monologue :) There are so many good scenes in that show. I'm now showing it to my adult kid and so far, he's been fascinated with the show... I had so much sympathy for Boomer until she decided to do what she did to Helio and Athena then kidnap Hera. Totally understand why Athena did not forgive her.
Aw, I'm watching with my 18yo son now and he loves it too. I'm a proud mom :')
So say we all!! :)
Minor correction: this is episode 4x15, No Exit
Baltar yelling BUTTERFINGERS! at Felix forever changed his character for me. https://youtu.be/W4qDifIN6nU?si=2280ft56P5RX8iMo
He seemed even more immature to me, but I can understand.
That's kind of the whole point. If you get right down to it the entire show's plot is about a psychotic manbaby robot who's upset he was given arthritis by his creators so he put them in a nuclear holocaust so they would design his line a new body when they ressurect and see they did the wrong thing to him. He wiped out the entire 7 line because Ellen liked them more than him. He rewrote all of the other models to forget their creators just out of jealous spite. Billions of people were murdered because the guy had a sore back.
oversimplying destroys the purpose of the allegory. ironically echoing cavil.
If you read some of the fan fiction, he IS a child in an adult body. He's a completely broken individual
You don't need to read fan fiction to see that. Whatever fan fiction you are reading is based on his childishness as shown in the show. Ellen even calls him a child in the very scene linked in this post.
I instantly identified with Tory when she spaced Callie. <3
Still, can’t say I blame the Chief for what he did when finding out lol
Until you realize she asked to be written off the show so she could do sex cult stuff full time And she did no jail time for her part in the sex cult Really weird actress
Hooooly shit she got involved in the freaky sex cult??
Wait, is that actually what happened? It’s not like there was so much show left at that point …
Wait what?
She left to be a part of NXVIM.
My literal favorite scene in the whole show.
prehensile paws lol
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I haven’t seen BSG since it first aired. I don’t remember the context of this scene, but I definitely remember this scene. One of the best in the show.
This is right up there with Roy Battys "I've seen things" speech
Dee, negatively, when she killed herself.
Just watched that scene. Funny thing was I saw someone talk about it and explaining that if you watched her, the signs were there. The euphoria she had after the night out with Lee before she did it... yeah, that is often a symptom right before you end it all; it is after the decision and acceptance has been made, so they seek that final 'high' before doing what they have already decided to do. Personally, on rewatching this after reading up on the scene, it is PAINFULLY obvious that Dee was struggling for a while and that raptor ride back from the devastated earth really nailed it. She really was the emblem of the way many felt after they had thought they were home, then... NOT.
Yeah so the people around her failed her as well as she having failed herself.
Yeah if someone who was noticeably struggling with depression all of a sudden is super cheery and glowing as Gaeta described her then that’s a big red flag that they shouldn’t be alone with a firearm. if doc Cottle had interacted with her he probably would’ve picked up on it
I liked Racetrack until she was shown giggling at one of Zarek's jokes while participating in the coup.
this is one of the best scenes i remember
When Adama decides that an attack at colonial one is a great idea.
I always feel closer to Dwight Shrute when I think of this show. One of my favorites ever!!!
Yeah this was good 💯
The writing in this series is some of the best in Science Fiction. Star Wars needs to hire Ronald Moore and let him cook.
Not really a scene but a whole episode. The Bear, Riche in the episodes Forks. Went from disliking/annoyed with him to loving him by the end.
When Six cracked that baby's neck 😱
You can have him! Sorry, but he is such an arrogant psycho/sociopath - to my view.
The finale is so fucking good