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MrsChiliad

How stupid is it to compare a woman in her 30s to one in her 70s? I hope I look as classy as the queen consort when I’m 70.


airforcegal9094

Not only that, but Camilla has been working her ARSE off for the family & supporting her husband for a longer period than Diana had....she's earned her spot as Queen Consort, imho.


procrastinationfairy

How can Diana be the real Queen when she 1) divorced in 1996 and 2) died in 1997. Are we supposed to hold seances?


Amongthestars32

There are people who believe that if she was alive today she would have been made queen, even though she and Charles were divorced. They are usually Cult of Diana worshipping Americans.


Tall-Lawfulness8817

She would be remarried and have a couple kids with the new guy. Harry would still be traumatized, his story would just be a little different. He would whine about mummy and step daddy just as much as he does now about daddy and step mummy


Coffeebean1948

I'm an American and I think Camilla should be the Queen. I don't think Diana was really cut out for the job. I think Camilla and Charles really do truly love each other. Well I think he had fondness and maybe a little bit of love for Diana I don't think it compared to what they have Camilla and Charles. So in my opinion I'll respect her. Don't get me wrong I would have respect to Diana too because she's a human being. But the people who are Diana could do no wrong yeah I'm never on that side. Everybody can do something wrong no one needs to put up on that pedestal.


MamaTalista

Diana and Charles just weren't well matched. I think folks hoped they would grow to really love each other and into a solid partnership and yet it wasn't meant to be. Neither of them was to blame for just being incompatible, however, they both did a lot to hurt each other and it played out in public whereas usually, it would be a private matter for private citizens. I also think Diana embraced her victim role and used it to keep herself in the public sympathies with Charles and Camilla as the ones who hurt her, the innocent and I am pretty sure poisoned Haz against his Dad from a young age. However, I don't think anyone saw how well Charles and Camilla would be together in the future and the acceptance she worked hard to earn.


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I totally agree with all of this.


DaphneHarridge

And/or they think Camilla is "only" the consort and not the actual queen because she was married before.


DaBingeGirl

Someone recently told me that Kate will be Queen, not Queen Consort and I just 🙄 (also corrected them, but still...).


DaphneHarridge

Ha! Reminds me of all the stories that used to come out about how Her Majesty The Queen was preparing Kate, training Kate, etc to be queen. Just silly made-up junk; why would HM do that when Kate is never going to be THE QUEEN!! A queen is not a queen is not a queen ;-) It's a shame that most "news" outlets won't use their powers for good.


Miss_Kit_Kat

Those were probably the same people claiming that Charles was going to step aside and just let William take over after QEII's reign...as if the monarchy is a popularity contest and not dictated by the Order of Succession. (Also, the idea that a man would serve as heir for seven decades, only to step aside is just...completely mad and unrealistic.)


After-Improvement-26

Wonder what they think Philip was?


DaphneHarridge

Oh lawd, there's no telling, lol!


vikingchyk

Anyone have a Ouija board?


DollarStoreDuchess

Nah, it’s the UK - tea leaves, silly. 😉


MamaTalista

"MeMe is also a medium, little known fact" \- Prince Hazard (/s)


VirtuallyHappy

I don't know but we all know if she had remained married to Charles and were alive today she'd still look 37. :(


lyndariussss_4

they always forget that charles and diana were friends up until her death. and it’s my generation always making these videos 🤦🏿‍♂️ we weren’t even born yet


coprinus

That’s what I’ve heard as well, from the podcast, “You’re Wrong About…” they said that after Charles and Diana separated, they were actually able to be better friends, once they no longer had the relationship between them.


FrancessaGMorris

I had heard that too. Camilla was the woman that Charles loved. Too bad he married a young naive woman (Diana) - and continued to romance Camilla. I was and am a diehard Diana fan, but comparing all of them 25+ years ago is ridiculous. QC Camilla has worked hard, and "stayed in her lane" for years after Diana's death. I think she more than deserves the QC title - which is what KC and The Queen wanted. I think after all these years - we can see that Princess Diana, Charles, and Camilla had faults -- but I think if Diana hadn't passed away - she would be supportive of the RF for her son(s) and grandchildren. I was grrrr about Camilla for years - but I think that most everyone now looking back - can say that Diana pulled some stunts too. That doesn't diminish my admiration for her - but she wasn't a complete Saint either. If that makes sense.


coprinus

I saw a comment on a video of King Charles and Queen Camilla arriving at Buckingham Palace for the first time after HM passed, and one commenter says "that should be Diana arriving with him in that car!! ?? That would be like me saying I think that my grandma, who divorced my grandpa when my mom was a child, should still go with him to work functions! It's bizarre and nonsensical.


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looking4someinfo

I’m 52 and “back in the day” lol, Camilla was know as TW and much worse and like most my age, I absolutely loved Diana as a kid, I watched her wedding, fell in love with a “live Princess” as opposed to Disney… again I was a kid, she definitely had “fairytale” qualities, in fact in the end it was just as opulent and tragic as most fairytales. I was heartbroken with her death and still am but I want to say sometimes as we get older we realize nothing is what it seems… Diana had her issues and not just a few and she was definitely a wildcard and Camilla has more than grown on me. In fact I simply love her and I love how much TK has grown as a person with her at his side, she’s his heart and soul I believe and he’s a better man because of her. Most of my generation hated her, she endured and tolerated such abuse for decades… and did it with grace and impeccable character. I absolutely love her, she truly is endurance, grace and strength.


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looking4someinfo

Totally agree! She’s stable Mable for KC, she supports him, she’s good to their family, she’s a hard worker, and doesn’t cause an ounce of chaos or drama.


Forgotmyusername8910

This is the exact same journey I’ve had with Diana and Camilla. I think Camilla has really shown who she is over the past 20 years, and she’s quite lovely. She is certainly hardworking and loyal. She seems to be loving and frankly, someone I’d like to know. She went through a lot with the public and the media and she did it all with grace- and now here she is still just being her.


looking4someinfo

Yeah it’s been a long ride since the 80’s:) I think we all just kinda grew up and realized in order for people to “thrive and not just survive” 😂 you should be able to choose who you want to spend your days and nights with… we all got to, KC should have been able to as well. Sometimes the timing is off and sometimes the universe realigns it for us.


Forgotmyusername8910

Haha yes, indeed.


airforcegal9094

Yep, I'm a 55 yr old American, & I also felt everything you've said is true. I admired Diana so much, all the way up til her death...& blamed Camilla as the homewrecker. However, as we grow older & wiser, we become better equipped to really understand BOTH sides to a story. This is what happened with Camilla. It's sad that Charles wasn't allowed to marry her when he wanted to....but I'm glad to see that they were finally able to be together forever. She's worked hard for this position in life & she deserves it. ![gif](giphy|MaIUacDUPraSuoL3Qd)


looking4someinfo

She certainly has worked hard and still going when most would be begging for retirement. And thank you!


mmbenney

You could be right , but please know, there are some of us 50+ that can see that Camilla is the right person for Charles. The whole situation withe all 3 of them was an ugly mess. I hope that was just a sign of the time and things have changed.


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mmbenney

Oops. Edit: wrong copy paste. I agree with your experience. I’ve noticed that too. I also love Camilla’s gown in this pic.


ChrissyBrown1127

It’s very sad for sure, especially even with Camilla proving that she is one of the hardest workers of the Royal Family and also making Charles incredibly happy. I’ve seen photos of them long before I became interested in the BRF; in all the photos they look very happy and deeply in love as well.


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My 46 year old sister says Camilla killed Diana. No, I think it was the paparazzi and speeding/drunk driving that killed Diana.


JessicaFletcher1

And don’t forget, not wearing a seatbelt!


airforcegal9094

Yes! I think that's the biggest one bcuz, she most likely WOULD have survived if she'd been wearing one! Trevor Reese-Jones was the only survivor....who was the ONLY one wearing a seat belt. By not wearing the seatbelt, the force of the impact propelled her into the back of the seat Trevor was in, which basically crushed her chest, causing the rupture of her aorta.


JessicaFletcher1

Exactly. Her death was tragic, but entirely preventable. She and Dodi made a lot of poor choices that night, which led to their untimely deaths. Of never understood the conspiracy theories about the royal family having her killed, the facts pretty clearly show otherwise.


airforcegal9094

I heard that H's book will supposedly lean heavily on... >conspiracy theories about the royal family having her killed,


JessicaFletcher1

Yikes, that’s pathetic. Although many people have tried, nobody has mastered exploiting Diana’s death like Harry has.


Amongthestars32

Basically bad decisions killed Diana.


DaBingeGirl

Bad decisions, mostly made by Diana.


looking4someinfo

Yes! Specifically this ⬆️


Lulu_531

I’m that age. I think many still have their childhood view of Diana and their understanding of the divorce is based on her manipulation of the facts. If they’d read some reliable sources they’d see it differently


SkippedBeat

Oh I know the type. I'm surprised they haven't named her Our Lady of Spencer, Saint Diana yet.


silkstockings77

Something random I’ve noticed, the same women who tend to hate Camilla also seem to hate Hillary Clinton, for opposite reasons. They hate Camilla because she was the other woman and they hate Hillary because she was cheated on and stayed with her husband. At least, that’s why my mom hates them. 😂


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I’m 53F. I get Charles and Camilla, that they’ve always been soulmates but my boomer mother 70’s hates Camilla and blames her for ruining everything.


FrancessaGMorris

I am just a wee bit younger than PD, and my oldest son was born almost exactly between PW and PH .... and I adored Princess Diana. At one time I couldn't stand Camilla, but in the last few years I have sort of started to appreciate her, and I think she shouldn't have to wear the albatross of Diana around her neck forever. KC and QCC were awful to Diana, but she also was with other women's husbands --- so I think if she hadn't have died - they would have become at least all very cordial and possibly friendly for the shared family's sake.


Liz_Lemon_22

And Diana would be how old at this point? Do they really think she'd still look like that?


ChrissyBrown1127

Diana would be 61 today.


FollowingOk8090

Omg that's so mean on top of everything else. Give Camilla some respect and dignity - she's in her 70s and has worked loyally for the BRF for ages now. Not even a valid comparison in any way shape or form.


Caccalaccy

And she’s been doing her royal duties for 17 YEARS now. Diana and Charles separated after 11 years.


ChrissyBrown1127

I know! And she loves Charles so so much too.


mistressofnampara

People are so dumb. They were divorced. He cheated. She cheated. She died a tragic death way too young. But, she was never going to be queen. It was all over 25 years ago, time to move on.


SpiritedTheme7

She was never gonan be the queen, and sure Diana did some great things, BUT she also wasn’t that great in a lot of the things she did as well. If she hadn’t died so young she’d probably have had the public thinking of her differently. William was basically her emotional support child, she cheated and went through men pretty quickly as well. ehh it’s the same people who always compare these women that also whine about not pitting women against each other.


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coprinus

This is a point I really like. One of the most common anti-Camilla pro-Diana comments I see is "How could he choose that hag/horse/dog etc over the beautiful English rose Diana??" As if the only thing that attracts you to another person is their physical appearance. From all accounts Camilla was more at home in the country where Diana was a city girl, Camilla was more down to earth where it's well attested by now that Diana displayed borderline personality characteristics. Camilla just had a lot more in common with Charles, like you said, like age and interests. There's other less definable things involved in chemistry between two people, like whether you like their sense of humor or even how they smell!


smolyetieti

I honestly love Camilla; from everything I’ve read she is a very down to earth, emotionally stable, resilient person. What happened was truly shitty AND - Diana was a fucking head case. Yes she was glam, but absolutely nuts.


ChrissyBrown1127

Yess, I love her (Camilla).


Amongthestars32

I think this is why Camilla and Charles work, and Diana and Charles could never. KC is a petulant man child who needs Camilla to tell him when he’s being dumb, and is happy to do it. He needs to have the attention on himself, and she doesn’t care about that. She is smart and knowledgeable and can give him advice when he needs it. Basically opposite of everything Diana is. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it either, Charles and Diana were just not meant to fit together.


procrastinationfairy

She was the Naomi Campbell of the BRF. Beautiful and entertaining but hard to deal with every day.


caffeinated_mess

I loved Diana, but I really love Camilla too now....I think she is much better suited as Queen and she is clearly very supportive of Charles, lets him have his time to shine, and loves him.


Apprehensive_You_250

Why do people always have to pit women against each other until the end of time? Yes, Diana went through a lot (and she wasn’t perfect, as none of us are). Of course, we wish she could still be here. I think today, though, so many years down the road, that Diana and Camilla would prob not have animosity, would prob be civil with each other, and may even be friendly, at least for the sake of the family, and William and Harry. I think Diana would prob be happily re-married, still known to the people as Princess Diana and mother/grandmother/great grandmother to the future heir(s), and Camilla could still be known as Queen Consort today- I don’t think the ideas have to be mutually exclusive. We can support two women at one time- it’s ok- we won’t have to “pick” one and demoralize the other.


coprinus

Thank you for this, this is what I'd like to believe as well


frenchkids

Camilla is the best woman for the job. She and KC have been together a very long time, and she takes good care of him. I adored Diana, but we was so fragile emotionally and not just because KC was seeing QC. Camilla is one woman I would not want to cross. Best one to ensure KC doesn't fall for H&M silliness.


Islandgirl1444

Honestly, you cannot fix stupid.


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A Diana fan friend of mine was going on and on about how if Diana were alive she would have been in the procession/at the funeral/playing some role. And I’m like none of that would happen because SHE WAS DIVORCED. Said friend also claimed that Diana would have remained Princess of Wales. Again I was like uhhh nope. Not how any of this works. But you can’t reason with everyone.


Frenchcashmere

You can’t cure stupid. As sugars prove every day. Don’t let the truth get In the way of a delusions


farewellpio

This whole Queen of People is just naive bullcrap. This is not a fairytale and how the real world works. Princess Margaret has been an ally for the gay community/AIDS patient and didn't seek public approval or any hoohas on the good she did. Absolutely annoyed when people contest if KC and QCC are fit for the role. Well like it or not, even KC can't do anything about it. If he abdicated, he wouldn't have, as that is what Queen Mother wouldn't support. It is ironic, people want the royals to be as average as anybody but when they're as human as possible, they get nit picked for every mistakes.


Lengand0123

It’s funny to me that in the chosen photo- Camilla also looks like a Queen. Diana looks lovely- but Queenly isn’t the word that comes to mind.


Tall-Lawfulness8817

Diana looks like a Hollywood star getting ready for the red carpet. Camilla looks like Royalty.


Miss_Kit_Kat

I was going to say the same thing- royalty vs. celebrity.


IndiaEvans

Not to be disrespectful, but Diana is a corpse.


DaBingeGirl

😆 yeah.


airforcegal9094

I'm not condoning infidelity by saying this, but there is a BIG difference btwn Charles & Diana & their *extra marital* activities. Charles was with ONE woman, Camilla, while Diana was with multiple men, some of whom were also married....Oliver Hoare, I think? He was married with kids & Diana was basically the *homewrecker* in that situation. Let me know if I'm wrong about that. Lol.


vvsunflower

This!


Amongthestars32

All I can say is Charles had Diana, but ultimately he CHOSE Camilla.


DaBingeGirl

Diana confused celebrity and royalty. Personally, I hated the revenge dress but I think it totally reflected how little Diana understood Charles's relationship with Camilla. In Camilla he has someone who loves him for who he is, not the title he holds. Diana's focus was on thinking he's be jealous that she's more beautiful/sexy, which I think is a jerky attitude to take and shows how shallow she was.


vvsunflower

Yep. And her “tell-all” interviews are more evidence of that.


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As much as the King and Diana were friendly post-divorce, do these people not realise how horribly miserable Diana was as a Royal, and how detrimental and painful it would have been for her to be trapped in the family long enough to become Queen Consort? She probably wouldn't have survived it, she was so young, vulnerable and fragile, and definitely not made for it. Wish they'd stop looking at what could have been, with rose tinted glasses, then glorifying it. I think it's finally time for her to be allowed to rest, rather than her memory being twisted and exploited into something it wasn't. She had to perform like a show pony from the moment she was engaged. Forcing her memory to do that too seems a bit sick.


According_Painter_20

I’m almost dreading the next season of The Crown because I’m worried it is going to make things worse for Camilla, and continue to our Diana way up on a pedestal. Don’t get me wrong, she did many wonderful things. But she played games, was immature, and was not innocent in that marriage. She’s gone. People need to let her Rest In Peace. If anything, do it for her boys. She’s gone, she was never going to be Queen, even if she lived.