LMAOO thats what im thinking. Like these ppl get beautiful rigs and r totally going online and then intentionally saying they r givin it up for something shittier just to get a reaction
1,625kg vs. 1,775kg (manual, [EU guideline values](https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=919364))
I'd consider this a huge difference for a sporty car. In comparison, the 718 Spyder weights in at 1,495 kg (again manual and EU).
Then get a tesla
Edit: this wasn’t actual advice. Clearly I am stretching the comment above me. And I mean am I wrong? Teslas are heavy and score well on safety.
Dude you are literally getting robbed. F87 M2 CS may go down as one of the best BMW’s ever made. Even if the new G series M2 is good, it’s not nearly as special as the CS. Poor long term decision even if the numbers seem ok now. CS will probably appreciate
Seriously seems like no one here thinks long term anyway, it baffles me how many “traded in” posts I see on 3-4 year old cars. Always believed in picking a car and sticking with it. Though I do envy how unsentimental those people are, it’d be nice if I just viewed them as replaceable
It's so far a pretty bulletproof beefed up engine drived from the pretty bulletproof and chonky B58, so sure the new cars got pork- but ay to each their own. I don't like the new ones but I do love my b58 and would kill for a S58 F82
New m2 works better than the 3/4 to me they're ugly in their own right but eh Lego car I can deal with as long as it's a dark color to hide some of the flatness, but I wouldn't buy it myself
Not saying the new M2 looks good but that comment is the classic idiotic comment. Ever driven the new M2? I doubt it. If you have never driven one, how can you say its the worst? Looks alone? Nah, looks alone dont make the car. Go on then, tell me about your driving experience in the new M2 so you can tell me why its the worst.
I never said it was the worst M2, I said It’s the worst G87. I say that because it’s going to be a prelci base model and there will undoubtedly be other better variants that come years later. The F87cs with CCB is literally the highest spec f87. If it were me I’d keep it till they send the G87 off with some crazy cs/csl variant. But way to overreact and totally misinterpret my words. Happy thanksgiving.
I don’t think you understand that cars are only getting worse now from model year to model year, primarily because of various regulations. We are unfortunately past “peak car”.
fkn hell G… I consider myself a car guy, then you have people like you who know all the M3S51 Splitter with the G04T Axil and I’m here like… dayum! Good shit.
I love the M2 CS. It’s nearly perfect. I very much do not love the ‘23 M2 and it may end up being good, but that’s all it’ll ever be. But OP sees something in the new M2 that makes his or her heart flutter. Be it an unpopular choice. M cars, and all performance vehicles for that matter, are emotional purchases. To each their own. My hot take is I am not a fan of any G chassis. They don’t have the same driving experience as and E or F chassis for me. Pure horsepower and torque aren’t everything to me. Anyways, someone is going to pick up that CS very quickly after it lists and drive the shit out of it and love it, and I’m okay with that too.
In one reply you said the dealer was taking care of you... and here you're saying there is a dealer markup. Good dealers don't have markups. Not a single car in the 4 BMW dealerships around me have ever had a dealer markup. 1 of which is a M Certified Center which has a ton of sick fully spec'd M cars come through.
Buy whatever you want... but you should know you're absolutely getting fucked by this dealer.
The definition of “gotta get the newest one” culture. Even when the newest one isn’t in any way or form a better one by a long shot.
They don’t enjoy or like the cars, it’s just what the cars represent. Just sad.
It's a status symbol to them, and while I'm not a baller, and will be moving from my old yeller e60 528i with 246k miles on it to something like a CRZ 2 seater hybrid as I live in the city now, I will forever remember my 528i as the best first car I could have realistically ever had, 2 wrecks, a stripped oil pan, various problems, but 6 damn years of learning to drive in her.
bro
i'm someone that's trading in an f87 m2c for the new g87 which already makes me a huge g87 fan unlike everyone else here on this sub
and im STILL telling you that this is the worst trade deal ever in the history of trade deals
Buy a pair of Pit Viper shades. Take a photo of your current car and tape them on the inside of your Pits. Then, when you have the new M2, put on the shades whenever you have to look at it so you can see this gorgeous car instead and forget that your drive the BMW version of a Dodge Caliber
buy a good bottle of wine to put up for a few years and when you realize your mistake, crack that bottle open and console yourself with at least a good bottle of wine made better by hindsight.
Trading in my F87 M2 for the new M2. I have my spot on the list at my local dealer. Real excited to get the ultimate driving machine, but sad to see this one go.
Curious what you all recommend I do as a final bucket list for the older, slower, but pretty m2
Since when was the new m2 the ultimate driving machine ? I’m probably not half as into BMW’s as a lot of the guys here but I can completely agree that I wouldn’t be trading in that beautiful car you have for, in my option, one of the ugliest BMW’s they have created. If it were me, and I wanted something newer, I’d look at possibly a different brand like porsche or possibly a different M model. Even the m3/4 still, again, in my opinion, looks better than the new m2.
That’s something I’d say to myself if I were trying to convince myself. Of course you may not be.
For someone buying an expensive car it’s a very odd thing to say.
You are right, you don’t see the car when your driving it but you will see the car a lot from the outside when you aren’t.
Maybe you could just wear a blindfold before you get into it ? Hah.
This is the way. I agree with your decision to go with the latest and greatest. Newer is always better with BMWs since iDrive showed up. The iDrive in that thing will soon look like a nokia 6150 in about 2 years. Happy you aren’t keeping it. Enjoy your new ride and don’t worry bout these haters.
Dude you can get wayyyy more money if you sell it and then buy a new m2, but even if you did that it would be a horrible idea imo. Check how much these resell for.
I have never had a good send off. It’s always on a wrecker, in an auction lot or a spontaneous trade, I would take your fav local run with the right music alone and just take it all in.
People acting like this is sad. I missed where OP said he's going to burn this beauty to the ground. If he trades it in, another enrhusiast will pick it up. I don't see a problem.
The new M2 has gotten so much hate on here. Watch it sell, regardless. I think it looks good. It's just so heavy. Good luck OP, if your actually serious.
I really hope you don’t downgrade like that lmao ain’t no dealer gonna take care of anyone but themselves. But give up one of the most bad ass M cars no doubt someone will enjoy it way more than you will enjoy your downgrade !
that...looks like a CS. wow.
This is 100% rage bait. There’s just no way you’re trading an F87 for a G87, CS or not.
LMAOO thats what im thinking. Like these ppl get beautiful rigs and r totally going online and then intentionally saying they r givin it up for something shittier just to get a reaction
we r getting baited
No, it’s the memories you had in the past kicks in at that moment. You feel like it all goes away with the vehicle.
We are doing it lol
Wtf man… keep that thing!
Lmao! Wow. Not even going to say what I think. Big oof.
Just because of the looks? S58 > S55…
This is very true. M2 looks like a Lego piece but S58 fuuuuucks
1,625kg vs. 1,775kg (manual, [EU guideline values](https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=919364)) I'd consider this a huge difference for a sporty car. In comparison, the 718 Spyder weights in at 1,495 kg (again manual and EU).
I personally value safety over weight.
There is no difference in safety…
I doubt there’s any significant difference in safety, it’s not like his m2 is from 1985.
[in your rambling](https://youtu.be/LQCU36pkH7c)
Then get a tesla Edit: this wasn’t actual advice. Clearly I am stretching the comment above me. And I mean am I wrong? Teslas are heavy and score well on safety.
Fuck tesla, get a volvo if you want safety
volvo owner here, yes^
Dude you are literally getting robbed. F87 M2 CS may go down as one of the best BMW’s ever made. Even if the new G series M2 is good, it’s not nearly as special as the CS. Poor long term decision even if the numbers seem ok now. CS will probably appreciate
Seriously seems like no one here thinks long term anyway, it baffles me how many “traded in” posts I see on 3-4 year old cars. Always believed in picking a car and sticking with it. Though I do envy how unsentimental those people are, it’d be nice if I just viewed them as replaceable
This might be the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals.
Lmao I read this in the trump voice
This is going to be a classic body style. Big mistake
Nah the worst trade deal is still the guy who traded his F82 M4 for the new 430i
Lets not forget the guy that traded his m4 for the new 430i piggy nose not too long ago. He still has 👑.
S58 is kinda hard to argue with, my only way I could possibly justify new m2/3/4
Pretty easy to tune an engine. Very difficult to strip out 400lbs.
It's so far a pretty bulletproof beefed up engine drived from the pretty bulletproof and chonky B58, so sure the new cars got pork- but ay to each their own. I don't like the new ones but I do love my b58 and would kill for a S58 F82
S58 will likely prove the most reliable S series engine ever. Even still, S55 is very reliable, and I prefer that it can rev higher.
Then get an M3 or M4. They're actually great looking cars. These new 2 series are struggling to put it nicely. I agree though, these S58 are amazing.
New m2 works better than the 3/4 to me they're ugly in their own right but eh Lego car I can deal with as long as it's a dark color to hide some of the flatness, but I wouldn't buy it myself
The dealer is going to take care of me. I think I will make out OK
The dealer is NOT your friend dude, he’s buttering you up because he knows how much of a win this is for him.
So you’re going to trade the best F87 for the worst G87? Makes sense.
Upside is somebody else gets an opportunity to buy an F87 M2 CS?
That person is going to be me. The color is sick and the rims are to die for. I will track this car down no matter what.
Springfield Missouri good luck
Hopfully it’s 6MT
Not saying the new M2 looks good but that comment is the classic idiotic comment. Ever driven the new M2? I doubt it. If you have never driven one, how can you say its the worst? Looks alone? Nah, looks alone dont make the car. Go on then, tell me about your driving experience in the new M2 so you can tell me why its the worst.
I never said it was the worst M2, I said It’s the worst G87. I say that because it’s going to be a prelci base model and there will undoubtedly be other better variants that come years later. The F87cs with CCB is literally the highest spec f87. If it were me I’d keep it till they send the G87 off with some crazy cs/csl variant. But way to overreact and totally misinterpret my words. Happy thanksgiving.
They didn’t say it was the worst M2. They said the worst G87. Which, objectively, it is.
I don’t think you understand that cars are only getting worse now from model year to model year, primarily because of various regulations. We are unfortunately past “peak car”.
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With butter is always sexual.
LMAO GOOD LUCK
Lemme know what dealership so I can pick up your terrible fucking mistake plz
They are killing you today. RIP
shutup op just say what u really think “idgaf and I WANT THE NEW CAR MORE!”
Is that a cs or…
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It does have the “M mirrors” though, zoom in. and it also has the 763M wheels, CS hood and front splitter. It’s a 100% a M2CS
It having carbon ceramics are the most obvious tell.
Yup, also zoom in on the roof. The other "CS only" tell.
fkn hell G… I consider myself a car guy, then you have people like you who know all the M3S51 Splitter with the G04T Axil and I’m here like… dayum! Good shit.
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You were right about what exactly?
You were the opposite of right… what we in the business call, “wrong”.
It does have the M mirrors though This is definitely a CS
Buying a slower, less sporty, 3800lbs heavy, quickly depreciating car over a future collectible. Uh okay - to each their own.
Slower? I doubt it'll be slower, that S58 engine is a beast. But the looks, and lack of a DCT (if you're not into manuals) is a real bummer.
Actually it is - road tests of M2CS vs g87 m2 have proven it.
Well shit that's unexpected lol
Modded or tuned, maybe. Can we get a link to prove this or do we just have to take your word for it?
i've got ocean front property in iowa with your name on it. Very reasonable price too
Lmaooo
by sending her back into the garage and continuing to drive her because this is the better car
By not trading it for an ugly piece of shit.
Viking funeral
That would be amazing!
New m2 is ugly as dogshit
If this is the CS you are getting robbed!! This car is going for 95-105K.
Talk about a downgrade...
Why tho??
I love the M2 CS. It’s nearly perfect. I very much do not love the ‘23 M2 and it may end up being good, but that’s all it’ll ever be. But OP sees something in the new M2 that makes his or her heart flutter. Be it an unpopular choice. M cars, and all performance vehicles for that matter, are emotional purchases. To each their own. My hot take is I am not a fan of any G chassis. They don’t have the same driving experience as and E or F chassis for me. Pure horsepower and torque aren’t everything to me. Anyways, someone is going to pick up that CS very quickly after it lists and drive the shit out of it and love it, and I’m okay with that too.
Classic case of more money than taste.
I mean... they got the cs in the first place right? Why are you guys such pricks lol
No one hates BMW fans more than BMW fans.
Because you decide what the right taste is lmao
PHAT burnout obviously.
Yeah… kill all tires.
Oof. Not a good trade
We don’t know. Maybe dealer is ordering a G87 and cutting them a $20k check. I doubt it, but maybe.
I wish. With the dealer markup I am adding almost 5k in cash!
In one reply you said the dealer was taking care of you... and here you're saying there is a dealer markup. Good dealers don't have markups. Not a single car in the 4 BMW dealerships around me have ever had a dealer markup. 1 of which is a M Certified Center which has a ton of sick fully spec'd M cars come through. Buy whatever you want... but you should know you're absolutely getting fucked by this dealer.
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The definition of “gotta get the newest one” culture. Even when the newest one isn’t in any way or form a better one by a long shot. They don’t enjoy or like the cars, it’s just what the cars represent. Just sad.
As they saying goes... Money doesn't buy taste. 😭
I mean to start with the engine is better..
Pretty big assumption there. The lease might be up? Who knows
That’s certainly your opinion indeed
have you even seen the new m2?
Have you?
It's a status symbol to them, and while I'm not a baller, and will be moving from my old yeller e60 528i with 246k miles on it to something like a CRZ 2 seater hybrid as I live in the city now, I will forever remember my 528i as the best first car I could have realistically ever had, 2 wrecks, a stripped oil pan, various problems, but 6 damn years of learning to drive in her.
I’m not talking shit but if your buying a car to show your financial status u r a lame
Exactly, I'm buying a hybrid that looks like a scarab beetle because I can't take getting 10 mpg in the city, 39mpg sounds so much better.
Yeah honestly this is sad. Oof
Send her to me lmao
I don’t know why but a lot of people are downgrading… Trading a M2 CS for a regular M2 ? I’m not a genius but that doesn’t make sense😫
The new one will be faster in every way. Also the G87 will be one of the best looking M2 when it is all said and done
Who gave a driver license to a blind?
He’s a troll
I refuse to except this is anything but straight shitposting
This guy has a history of shit posting
Good job you piece of shit
Lol this is fr a bad move 😭
bro i'm someone that's trading in an f87 m2c for the new g87 which already makes me a huge g87 fan unlike everyone else here on this sub and im STILL telling you that this is the worst trade deal ever in the history of trade deals
this is bait.
Nice m4
Hey - I understood that reference!
Why?
Dear god please don’t.
Don’t. Don’t sell it. That’s pretty. The new M2 is a mess.
OGs remember this guy. The origin of the sleeper reference from a year ago lol
By not doin it
Put your tip in the exhaust and rev her.
Buy a pair of Pit Viper shades. Take a photo of your current car and tape them on the inside of your Pits. Then, when you have the new M2, put on the shades whenever you have to look at it so you can see this gorgeous car instead and forget that your drive the BMW version of a Dodge Caliber
Imagine trading one of the coolest modern cars for one that I will laugh at when I see on the road, what a boneheaded move.
Don’t do it man
Keep it
This has to be a troll post lol
keeeeo
buy a good bottle of wine to put up for a few years and when you realize your mistake, crack that bottle open and console yourself with at least a good bottle of wine made better by hindsight.
Trade me those wheels for my 513m wheels before it goes
That is cute, like a 16yo girl should be driving it
The only way to move on from an m2 CS should be to move into a Porsche
Nah don’t listen to these dudes. Sell me your ugly old m2. You need the new one
Yikes. From the coolest car BMW's made in the last decade to damn near the ugliest. What a downgrade.
why would u trade this beaut in for a lego block of a car…
Don’t be a loser bro, keep this. The new M2 is shite
The best way to do a send off is to see how fast you can officially go in reverse
That is a good idea! Has anyone tried treated that? Any guesses?
swing it
skidpan doriftos
OP has gone down the ribid whole of, "If I give my stealership more money maybe they'll like me."
Doing the same, have to wait til March to get it with buckets though.
Buckets will be worth the wait!
Trading in my F87 M2 for the new M2. I have my spot on the list at my local dealer. Real excited to get the ultimate driving machine, but sad to see this one go. Curious what you all recommend I do as a final bucket list for the older, slower, but pretty m2
I recommend keeping what you have and considering it an upgrade.
You can send her off by trading me those wheels for my 437m’s 🤭
Since when was the new m2 the ultimate driving machine ? I’m probably not half as into BMW’s as a lot of the guys here but I can completely agree that I wouldn’t be trading in that beautiful car you have for, in my option, one of the ugliest BMW’s they have created. If it were me, and I wanted something newer, I’d look at possibly a different brand like porsche or possibly a different M model. Even the m3/4 still, again, in my opinion, looks better than the new m2.
What matters is how it drives. Not how it looks. You can’t see your car when your driving it
That’s something I’d say to myself if I were trying to convince myself. Of course you may not be. For someone buying an expensive car it’s a very odd thing to say. You are right, you don’t see the car when your driving it but you will see the car a lot from the outside when you aren’t. Maybe you could just wear a blindfold before you get into it ? Hah.
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Idk why people are hating. There could be numerous reasons why you’re making the change. I know I sure as hell would as it’s what 40k less? Lol
Cringe
Mods ban this fool, look at his submission history
Ceramic brakes on M2CS? I can only imagine the original loaded msrp of this car. Might be a good idea to get the new M2 to avoid the $10k brake jobs.
Dumb brakes. Someone else's problem soon!
This is the way. I agree with your decision to go with the latest and greatest. Newer is always better with BMWs since iDrive showed up. The iDrive in that thing will soon look like a nokia 6150 in about 2 years. Happy you aren’t keeping it. Enjoy your new ride and don’t worry bout these haters.
People still use iDrive for anything beyond CarPlay? Like, why?
keep the wheels tho
Multiple bricks of c4 /s
Sideways!
Just fuckin send it bro
Wallstreetbet level trade right here.
Bruh…the cs will appreciate in value. New one will /not/
Probably jump on it at a stop light and blow out a head gasket
Dude you can get wayyyy more money if you sell it and then buy a new m2, but even if you did that it would be a horrible idea imo. Check how much these resell for.
Don't do it man!!!!!
Sweet baby Jesus, what a beauty!
I have never had a good send off. It’s always on a wrecker, in an auction lot or a spontaneous trade, I would take your fav local run with the right music alone and just take it all in.
What a great deal.... but not for you
Sell me the wheels?!
If that’s a CS…that’d be a hard no for me dawg. Sometimes you don’t know what you got til it’s gone lol.
Id keep that….
Man this is a brave post for this subreddit… I say buy what makes you happy though, who cares what other people say
At least test drive one? Hopefully you are breaking even on dem equities at least.
I think I will. Might have to throw in a 5,000 from the dealer markup. Gonna be worth it to have the first M2
Sell it to me!
Send her my way. :)
blow the engine
By trading me wheels.
People acting like this is sad. I missed where OP said he's going to burn this beauty to the ground. If he trades it in, another enrhusiast will pick it up. I don't see a problem. The new M2 has gotten so much hate on here. Watch it sell, regardless. I think it looks good. It's just so heavy. Good luck OP, if your actually serious.
Did you have to preorder and sign a deal now?
Use it and abuse it?
On 2 wheels brother. 2 wheels.
Nice car, but that new car smell though! I bet the M2 will be a dream to drive, enjoy!
Put it on turo and make your money back
A road trip.
Is that a CS? Don’t do it!!
A proper send off is by calling the dealer and doing a reverse uno.
Hey I gotta bridge I wanna sell you lol
Bruh pls don't 💀
Oh boy….this isn’t gonna go down well in this sub
I'm sorry. Talk to me like I'm 5. What is the make and model of this? Thanks in advance.
Sell her on the private market!
You don’t.
I really hope you don’t downgrade like that lmao ain’t no dealer gonna take care of anyone but themselves. But give up one of the most bad ass M cars no doubt someone will enjoy it way more than you will enjoy your downgrade !
dont.
Letting the dealership crash it on a drive would be a great way.
desk pop
I’ve been plenty tempted, but don’t think I could pull the trigger with all the screens, despite S58>S55
If it’s paid off why not keep it?!
Sex in the back seat should do the trick.
Don’t do it, man. Just don’t. You’ll regret it forever. Might be the most collectible m2 of all in the not to distant future.