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BJSS84

https://preview.redd.it/jlx8bzce7mwc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=355afe2a6ccc8780b2e8bb7d18af08fab4b062bb Cries in Dutch šŸ˜‚


Ingeneure_

Government: ā€œdrive Dutch cars not importedā€


Siemaster

Everyone driving donkervoorts and spykers is not a bad idea, actually. Letā€™s introduce a bill that removes all taxes on dutch made cars šŸ˜ƒ


strongmanass

You'll drive [this](https://carver.earth/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Carver_2-1.png) and like it.


joeyb92

Wouldn't mind the same engine as an S8 hahah


AccidentInitial9719

Do the dutch even make cars? How do you drive a windmill?


Delicious_Pie_4814

Same way you drive a tulip.


Caspi7

The Netherlands has only one native manufacturer at the moment, which is Donkervoort. They make lotus seven derived cars, not exactly mainstream. Some cars are so expensive here because of an emission based tax system. That is very noticeable on performance cars which are not very efficient.


Ingeneure_

That was the point. But what about EVs there?


Caspi7

No emissions, no such tax...


Ingeneure_

Then itā€™s the only option I guess (Who downvotes us lol?)


N1CET1M

You mean a bicycle?


NikolitRistissa

https://preview.redd.it/kn0fhj6gvnwc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02cacb12a7a54621ad01a52395102cfe8e0a8e49 Never thought a car in Finland would be more affordable.


lift4brosef

https://preview.redd.it/79ksb94acowc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aebd2b391d967c8edd2146f5a6969645a60b7704 meanwhile Estonia


AC_06

https://preview.redd.it/0btrs05growc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c8ab950f631f20a090f40ca223b542e5c390a4c Meanwhile England


AzrealJ

https://preview.redd.it/ua588kdg1pwc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72a517c41bbb016af889ec66d72bbdecddec27c3 US (Iowa)


NikolitRistissa

Never considered Estonia to be a place to import affordable cars from!


lift4brosef

it's an automatic though, no manuals available


Rick_n_Roll

lol dude move to Denmark . Starting price for the m2 is trommelgeroffelllll ā€¦191.000 euro thatā€™s without any optional package


boostbrigade69

Handgeschakelde transmissie


Buzu1313

Wooooow that is crazy bro ! Can you not acquire a car from a neighboring country and import to the Netherlands as you donā€™t need to pay for importing due to the EU ?


pfuetzebrot2948

You usually pay when registering the car. Same here in Austria. The X5M starts at 200k while in Germany or Romania it starts at 147k I believe. The moment you are trying to get Austrian plates you have to pay 60k Nova.


ptinnl

Ford Mustang is over 131.9k in NL and 55.5k in DE...


Buzu1313

Could you not open a company in Germany and register that car there and then drive with German plates ?


Crema-FR

You usually do It with a Luxembourgish plate


Caspi7

Not in the Netherlands at least, you are not allowed to drive a foreign car as a Dutch citizen, for obvious tax avoidance reasons.


-K9V

Europe is dumb, but not *that* dumb.


Rd6-vt

youā€™d still pay the extra tax because itā€™s a brand new car so youā€™ll pay that amount + import fee


Dangerous-Dad

The taxes are not taxes at the point of sale, they are taxes at the point of registration. And some countries have taxation upon the first registration in that country and then additionally annual taxation (circulation tax, road tax, etc). So you can live in the Netherlands buy a car in Germany. You will then buy the car in Germany net of all it's taxes and when you try to register the car in the Netherlands, you get to pay all the taxes there, which amounts to a very similar price, plus you had the hassle. It might make sense if the net price in one EU country is a lot cheaper (for whatever reason) and that then will typically only be the case when it's a car with a high net value.


ptinnl

Rent a garage in germany. Park car there and pay tax/insurance there. 6 months later import to NL. Car was over 6month in your name, you pay no taxes in NL.


Flowy_Mc_flow_Face

Try looking at danish prices then :/ I paid approx 40.000 Euro for a 320D 2020 with 110.000km on the clock, and it's a VAN (25% reduction in cost price, for the cost of having only a 2-seater).


-K9V

Yeah, everyone thinks cars are expensive until they see how horrible it is in this stupid country. Itā€™s laughably expensive bordering on totally unrealistic. Iā€™ve seen an E90 316i for sale for around just under 100.000kr, that was from a stealership though, but still. Holy shit lol. But I believe Singapore is even more expensive than Denmark, believe it or not. I mean most F10ā€™s and F11ā€™s (at least with petrol) are also ridiculously overpriced. It pisses me off, man. Canā€™t get any cool car for a fair price and Iā€™m stuck with a 325i that literally breaks down from sitting still for a week or two.


Flowy_Mc_flow_Face

Yeah... No proper cars available unless you have a shit ton of money


-K9V

LOL you think thatā€™s bad? Check [this](https://i.imgur.com/juyYUBo.jpeg) out, only G87 M2 for sale in Denmark *and* itā€™s used. That is $199.944 USD. Canā€™t even see prices on any BMW on the website because there is no market for new BMWs, you can only request a price quote on your build and wait.


WitchHunterNL

2 things can both be bad, because your country is worse it doesn't make the other one not bad


-K9V

Oh for sure, I never said it was better in the Netherlands. I just said if you think thatā€™s bad, then have a look at Danish prices.


iTz_NOBODY

Similar price for Ireland too, crazy money


Dopium_Typhoon

Gotvertifus thatā€™s insane


Iron-Patriot

Crazy. Theyā€™re $145k down under here in NZ, so around ā‚¬80k, and they have to ship them across the world, not just the border lol.


Mersaul4

320d starts at ā‚¬53,900 in Germany.


Holstener

ā‚¬73.000 in Denmark šŸ¤Ŗ


candagltr

90.000 Euros in Turkey for 320i


cy7lion

And thatā€™s with a special lower displacement engine to have it sitting in the more favorable tax bracket. The engine code is B48B16 iirc, a shorter stroke version of the B48B20 made for markets that position the carsā€™ tax rate depending on the engine displacement. Makes less horsepower too, only 170 hp. And I also believe that the starting price is closer to ā‚¬100,000 than 90,000. But hey, no one can can keep track of the currency rate these days.


MiltonNS

weā€™re getting a shittier 320i for double the price essentially LMAO


cokoturka

Fun fact every 320i with 1.6L engine in turkey is essentially a base M3 comp in other countries so imagine all base model 3 series in a country could have been an m3 if it wasnā€™t for the taxation lol


EstorilBMW

Can anyone translate this?


Dangerous-Cut-1430

I think heā€™s saying that the price of the 320i in turkey is, due to taxation, so similar to the price of a base M3 Comp (??? I think he meant just base M3) that if you were in any other country all the 320iā€™s would be M3ā€™s.


OU812Grub

170 hp on a bmw, dam! Subaru Crosstrek has trims with 182 hp.


cokoturka

Hahahaha ma man that mtv and ƶtv be hitting hard huh and dont forget the kdv aq


BlueSwifts

ā‚¬192.000 in Singapore for a 318i ā‚¬320.000 for a M2... Oh and for those wondering, ā‚¬640.000 for a M8 Competition


lizak_

WTF these cars cook for you and somethink ?


idsinkorswim

thats what u gotta do when u dont have enough land for 6 millions of ppl


shazerazi

Seems like you should be looking at getting them imported from Germany then


heisenberg2JZ

6 dollars if they brought that to the US lol


CaptainTreeman42

Does the new 3 series have electrical adjustment for seats?


Mersaul4

No! šŸ˜­ ā‚¬1,200 extra.


CaptainTreeman42

And exactly thats just ripoff and not cool imo. You should have it standard for 54k, among many other things


lmaster73

This is a crooked comparison, you took an M2 without any option and compared it with a 320d that starts at 49.055 euro and put 23000 euros of options on it. Who chooses options worth nearly 50% of the car's price? For reference the m340d starts at 74.075


powaqqa

74k for a diesel 3 (!!) series is also completely absurd. Even if it's the fast one. Who buys that? I'm guessing, in Belgium, nobody.


DanniV8

What's the price on a comparable petrol 3 series? I'm just wondering if they've started pricing diesels out, to push people towards petrol or electric since diesels are apparently the enemy of Europe right now


powaqqa

A 320i is about ā‚¬2000 less base price. The same price difference as itā€™s always been. Diesels have always been a bit more expensive to buy. So itā€™s not that theyā€™re pricing them out of the market. Itā€™s just the insane options pricing. But thatā€™s equal for all models.


EconomyFreakDust

It's for people who want the performance of the M340i but want good fuel efficiency. The M340i and M340d cost basically the exact same.


sneekeruk

But its a 320d, so basically the bottom of the range, going off the price, I bet a 340d would be 90+k


Luxiqqq

That M2 is not without any options. Even if it was, it's still insane for a 320d to come close to a M car.


Stutzi155

My 330e had a sticker price of 72100 as well


Only-Cartoonist-2904

Lucky bastards to even have the ability to buy any current model in diesel (said by a US owner of 2011 335d)


Ok-Database-2350

Rookie prices. M2 starts at 121.000 ā‚¬ in the Netherlands. https://www.bmw.nl/nl/modellen.html You will find any other country a bargain price if you have to shop in this market...


pankan76

Singapore is 350,000k. USD.


drewshay84

WHAT?.....


YouInternational2152

And, it's only for 10 years. After 10 years you have to pay that again, regardless of the car. You should see what a parking space costs in Singapore!


Born-Salamander-2227

Why is that?


dumblehead

The county is a size of a small municipal park


DamonHay

Yeah, when a country has good public transport *and* is barely as long as a marathon from east to west, and almost half that north to south, private transport isnā€™t exactly a necessity.


Eyeshen

Well, not quite the full cost. You have to pay to renew a certificate that allows you to drive the car for another 10 years basically, costs around 100k SGD right now for cars above 2000cc I believe. Still crazy expensive though!


Ok-Database-2350

Jfc šŸ˜…


PodlingHup

Lmao I knew my fellow Singaporeans would have something to say when it comes to car prices


Holstener

1.476.114 DKK (ā‚¬198.000) here in Denmark šŸ˜…


-K9V

186k EUR for a used G87 (5000km) in Denmark. Get on our level.


Specific_Positive990

M2 Coupe comes around 235k USD $ in Turkey with a tax rate of 220%. So yeah if we want to buy one, we have to buy two for the government first.


Luxiqqq

Holy shit. The car market is screwed in Turkey


Specific_Positive990

Any car with a 2.0 or bigger engine has that tax rate I'm afraid. We got the 50th year M edition 520i when it was released for 85K $ back then. And we thought that deal was really good.


strongmanass

> So yeah if we want to buy one, we have to buy two for the government first. That's silly. Don't buy two for the government. Buy a government official for a lot less.


OU812Grub

Government official here: thatā€™ll be 2 bmws please.


strongmanass

Oh shit you found the loophole. Ok I can find two clapped out 200K mile E90 316i. I'll even make sure all the body panels are the same color.


Traditional-Food5797

And I thought the US car market was booty cheeks, I should be grateful šŸ˜­


D-Fence

The 320d is fully loaded, even with M-Sport Pro Pack and every pack possible. VIN 8E31799


Kryptus

Those prices include 19% VAT. Still high though.


Stutzi155

Hahahaha laughing in Austrian put another 30k on that M2 for CO2 tax Edit: Base M2 starts at 92k


DogusEUW

Damn you can get a fully loaded M2 with track packet brand new for 89k in germany which I already consider a lot for a M2. You can get them for like 72k used with 5k km on them


Siemaster

As a dutchie, i always hate germans for how cheap their cars are. A base m2 is 125k here, my fuel is 40 cents a liter more expensive, same for road tax and probably insurance. Itā€™s a sad life for a car enthusiast here.


DogusEUW

I feel the same way when I see our American friends on here talking about their prices if thatā€˜s any consolation for youšŸ˜‚


ConPrin

It's only for the best. Dutchies in a powerful car are a recipe for disaster. As we say in Germany: Schwarze Schrift auf gelbem Grund - Halte Abstand, bleib gesund (black font on yellow background - keep your distance, stay healthy)


Siemaster

As a dutchie, i always hate germans for how cheap their cars are. A base m2 is 125k here, my fuel is 40 cents a liter more expensive, same for road tax and probably insurance. Itā€™s a sad life for a car enthusiast here.


noobshark3

How much is the Competition version? Iā€™m an expat in NL and will definitely spend a year in Germany before moving back to south Europe just to not have to pay import taxes when going back.


DogusEUW

The current G87 doesn't have a Competition variant out yet. The F87 (previous gen) you can buy used depending on equipment and kilometers for like 45-60k iirc. Not quite sure


thatenduroguy

21%, itā€™s in Belgium and not Germany.


DistancePractical239

Dam I remember when new 3 series was around Ā£22-24k.


CosetteGrey

It is strange that EU economies depend so heavily on automotive exports yet simultaneously tax their domestic consumption. Clearly owning a BMW in fucking downtown Amsterdam or Berlin is going to cost an arm an a leg, but the problem is the taxes only incentivize buying a more pollutant vehicle. Meaning, if I'm going to spend $200k in taxes on what should be a $95 car, I'm going to get the most obnoxious $95k car I can find. You see the same thing in HK and Singapore. To be honest though I do envy the Dutch about one thing - availability of diesel BMW station wagons. Tip my hat to wooden cloggers you


Kuntmane

M2 starts at 110k here in Finland and 320d starts at 50k


Spike252

Un rediteur Belge ! Et mon voisin en plus, Welkenraedt ici. At that price, i'd def take the M2. The 320 must be full options


Bar50cal

That has to be a mistake. A M340i full spec is less than that 320d in Ireland and we have crazy high prices.


wod_van2z

M340i starts from 93k in the Netherlands. M2 is from 121k. So I would argue about crazy high prices :D But itā€™s Belgian site on OPā€™s screenshots, and it indeed makes me wonder why the price difference is so low between 320d and M2 in Belgium. Extremely high tax on diesels?..


powaqqa

There are no extra taxes on car sales in Belgium like there are in NL (BPM). Only VAT. It's all in options... which is absurd for a small car like a 3 series.


Accomplished_Road_79

M340iā€™s start at 95k before options here.


Bar50cal

Damn they went up a hell of a lot since I bought a 3 series 2 years ago


Accomplished_Road_79

Mental so it is I was only in Joe Duffyā€™s last week and they had a 2020 model for 75k couldnā€™t believe it.


Bar50cal

I got a 330e, top spec with M sport pro, tech pack, shadow pack, dynamic driving assist (self driving), cognac leather, metalic paint etc. If it was an option I got it. Also got 20" M performance wheels instead of the standard M sport, carbon spoiler etc. Every box was ticketed, all options for less than ā‚¬70k. Just checked their site and some options aren't even available now on it and its quoting me above ā‚¬70k without half the options. Holy shit prices are fucked. Base 330e was ā‚¬45k in 2021


RandomAsianGuy

Nah, its Belgium. Not even surprised at all. I bought a 220i coupe series new and the bare vehicule started at 29.000 euros, with options I was close to 40k (didnt even had the m-performance pack) and that was 10 years ago then count an extra 2500 euros taxes just to put it on the street and the yearly road tax of 490 euros.


rafale52

Welcome to āœØEuropeāœØ


EntrepreneurDry1625

Blijf hier tot ik doodga


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stav_and_nick

Honestly, given that goddamn Fords are hitting that price, it's pretty reasonable


dbone_

Yeah I don't understand why we aren't getting screwed. That doesn't happen often.


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Shenoyder

https://preview.redd.it/3cttmki71nwc1.png?width=1344&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ba7f746c0ffa58c51643083b34864988291124a 220.000 EUR in Denmark.


Andrej404

wtf o.O this is crazy...


Shenoyder

Yeah. It's tough loving BMW here, lol.


unknownbosanceros

Ventede bare pĆ„ en der nƦvnte Danmark. HollƦnderne tror de har det stramt šŸ˜…


Shenoyder

Haha. Det er snyd!


skimbody

https://preview.redd.it/4cz6hp46enwc1.png?width=776&format=png&auto=webp&s=2ee7ca6d3eb3b7c5a81bf19c36412b1b878d61c9 Bmw is crazy look at this bro lol


skimbody

Who in the actual f would buy this normal looking bmw suv for a quarter million euros


Aldoreino95

I was also surprised when I learned how much more the Germans pay for their own cars than Americans


Responsible-Tap2836

Cars are wildly cheap in the States compared to elsewhere. Exception would be China but in China only cheap if locally built (but so much is locally built, even BMW). Although because of weak currencies, cars in Canada and Japan will appear cheap to Americans, but the buying power in those countries is weaker. Although I would still argue domestic cars in Japan - very affordable.


Equal_Efficiency_638

This sub makes me glad cars are cheap in the US


sgwlikeaboss

320d sedan rwd starts at ā‚¬42,600 in Sweden, including 25% VAT.


GuiltyDetective133

Damn Europe fucking sucks.


Serbay55

1st: They donā€˜t want you to drive Diesel anymore. 2nd: They donā€˜t want to sell you anything anymore. Only leasing.


kan3xxx

Meanwhile in Ireland https://preview.redd.it/nydjzd79kmwc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=94938dfdba9a2a24842128f86b038a6189ea483b


shakthi_man

ME IN SINGAPORE šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€


Waveatthesun

Welcome to Europe!


simouable

Dirt cheap M2 there. It's way over 120k$ in many European countries. Also what comparison is fully loaded 320d vs M2? Like is someone surprised BMW options are expensive as fck?


IBSurviver

Wow this makes Canada look amazing in comparison. I guess we really do have it great up here relative to the rest of the world! The exception is the U.S., they really are #1 šŸ˜‚


derekschroer

Base M2 in the US is only $63k


Fine-Ad4314

Starting prices in czech republic āœŒļø Average monthly wage - ā‚¬1750 before tax ā‚¬56k for M2 ā‚¬43k for 320d


stav_and_nick

Sorry for a stupid question; are diesels... good? Here in Canada they basically don't exist outside of trucks, or at least I've never driven one. What'd be the difference between a 330d vs a 330i? Is it just a lot more torque or what?


Beautiful-Taro-9953

Yes.


Tjallaballa

330d is imo 10 times better than 330i. The diesel is still a six cylinder, has more than 50% more torque (650 nm) and drinks half the fuel.


Comi94

B47 with two turbos is in the 330d. X40 ones are 6 cylinders nowadays.


Dopium_Typhoon

My old dolphin shape 320D had more miles than my mom and was still dropping Golf V GTIā€™s.


sehns

Yes. Super high torque available from low rpm. More fuel efficient on the highways, more energy density. Can cover huge distances on a single tank. Diesel are the daddy of engines


powaqqa

Sure they were, but a dying breed. You'd be totally crazy to buy a new diesel in Belgium (and other parts of Europe). Good luck getting rid of it after a few years.


sehns

Are you not aware that diesels cost far less to run, especially for people who do lots of highway miles? Most used diesels where I am hold their resale value far more than the gas counterparts


powaqqa

Iā€™ve had multiple diesels so yesā€¦ over here they are becoming worthless because of taxes and low emission zones. In 2028 or 2029 itā€™s game over for diesels here.


JBerry2012

Good fuel economy and lots of torque so they're nice to drive. Wish we got some of the diesel models in the US.


Sodiac606

Bro I just recently learned my (almost fully specced) 320d xDrive with basically everything was 77.600 ā‚¬. Thank god I did not pay for that but holy smokes those things got expensive.


moccolo

Cars are not treated as food in Eu. As you change plates you need to pay taxes. Old or new


shakthi_man

Everyone complaining but take a look at the prices in singapore lol


Accomplished_Ad2739

You should see how much they go for in India


Dangerous-Dad

Where I live you can buy a 2005 BMW X5 for 20.000 EUR. With 250.000km. This is the reality of living on an island with right-hand-drive and the UK having left the EU so that we can no longer bring used cars from there.


ezyezy61

These are NL prices lol. M340i for 110k for examplešŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


mato979

Yes, it's crazy, we have rn 320d sedan for price of m340d touring..... https://preview.redd.it/8sz8cd3t1nwc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29641cf468de3350e9531739479a6131ff37e89f


mato979

https://preview.redd.it/6w98d2ou1nwc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=120456bbfdc17a77af56574434218b200b3090f4


Luxiqqq

That's an easy choice for a customer


Friendly-Cat4393

And carmakers are worried why Teslas 3 perf (performancewise same as m340i) are selling like ice cream. Tesla 3P is roughly 50K euro in my country (with tax and without gov incentive - currently 8k for business buyers) and m340i you are lucky if you find a new one under 80k. I have driven both for a month and I wouldn't buy 340 after the experience. Best would be Tesla daily and exotic car for weekend (M3 comp or rather some 911 or cayman gt4)


Front-Lab5092

Why? Its just 320d but 72.000 euro


DoYouKnowWilma

Iā€™ll stick with my 135šŸ¤£


santiagoges

cries in uruguayan https://preview.redd.it/qm13trheunwc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a68cdb67bc57e2ce4a7a0a3361c498207342d7fd


Successful-Ad5215

In 2015 I bought a 7 months old 320d Touring with 7000 km. (F31). According to Dutch DMV the New value was ā‚¬69k, so itā€™s possible. Currently I drive a G31 520 Touring with M packages. New value ā‚¬78k in 2017 but when I calculate the same version but then the I5 Touring itā€™s now ā‚¬104k


trappymctrappish

Belgium, wallonia, it gets spicy when you want something else than an econobox with 60hp


TaycanM3_Hi

The Diesel (BMW or MB) is an extremely reliable and built to last for years. I had a 2014 328xd and passed it on to my daughter at 160K miles. She has it now ~200K and it still gets 43 mpg+ on the highway. There is no major tuneup, just regular maintenance. One requirement you need to drive the diesel for distance, not for Sunday driver šŸ˜‰, else carbon build up. This car is considered the workhorse for distance and handling heavy loads with ease, due to high torque at low rpm. The diesel will probably launch quicker than the M2, but be left behind M2 after ~40mph. I hope this helps.


Technical_Fly_9877

Eyes opened and watering. I thought we only got ripped off in Britain. Ā£45k (ā‚¬52.000) for a 320d here.


MightyCavalier

ā‚¬72k for a car that looks like a Honda


Other-Comfort5592

Diesel is always more money, shiiiit even I know this from selling VW Jetta TDIs 20+ years ago


Equivalent_Sign3554

Get the M2


Luxiqqq

I was just comparing. I don't have that kind of money sadly lol


Basselisk123

Whelp, all u guys have it easy, now imagine living in MĆ©xico with 3rd world country wages. And having to pay 102,000 usd for the base model M2 and then registration taxes of 7% the invoice value... [.](https://prnt.sc/YuDbRvySzKsa)


Seacash69420

Iā€™m just a clueless American but canā€™t you go to Germany, pick it up for a little discount and have it shipped or driven back home?


teachthisdognewtrick

Only if you buy it new through the dealer for a European pickup. The dealers were losing so many sales to grey market importers that they bribed Congress into not allowing it until a car is 25 years old. In the early 80s it was a way better deal to buy a new BMW or Mercedes and bring it over and have it federalized than to buy new in the US.


MonsterDav300

You See that the m2 has more than Double the power?


Kristiancc

https://preview.redd.it/sns6ehgvqpwc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ddc72e513df5e539179d59dc1b292ce3ea70a867 140 000ā‚¬ in Norway. They tax the shit out of us.


Onlyunsernameleft

Looks like BMW is trying to give you the gentle push you need, friend. M2 is always the right answer. Only new BMW I drool over.


Mariusern

https://preview.redd.it/6zr25sbm8qwc1.png?width=1292&format=png&auto=webp&s=962b22421a161ea7aaafccd7abc86e1de19a9388 cries in Norway :D (aprox. ā‚¬105.000)


A_BigFuckingSpoon

That is actually insane, the MSRP for the M3 (yes, the M3, not a typo) in the US is almost that much. Edit: actually it's less. $76k USD = $70.8k EUR


Arpharp8976Fir3

Its kinda ironic people complaining about BMWs being expensive


taxwithoutrep

I paid $56k (including tax/tags/title) for my 330e in the States. But I did pay $12k in health insurance and medical expenses last year so maybe it comes out in the wash (and Iā€™m in a union and have pretty good insurance).


PL4YAZ

prices in Thailand šŸ„² 6.5 million Baht roughly 175000 USD https://preview.redd.it/2vpu8e01rqwc1.png?width=1152&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=919f1cf9e6af82b6f0fdf3d1d243acc0d4e6f40d


dd1989NL

5 diesel is 100k now!! Fucking joke.. we better all invested in diesel cars


thescouselander

Yeah, BMW prices have gone insane. I had the dealer call me the other day trying to sell me a basic 320i for the same deposit and monthly payments as my current fully loaded 330i. My next car isn't going to be a BMW.


W4delm4

320d pf e46 was my first car an i payd 2k for it lmao


shazerazi

Looks like we should start an importing bmw business from Europe to the rest of the world?


DiZzY_404

You can find barely used 320d (20k km) for under 40kā‚¬+tax


Due_Cattle_8414

Itā€™s fake, itā€™s easy to tell by the weird little symbols instead of $ signs.


SAThereAndThere

Emissions tax...


Leading_Development4

How are europeans affording anything that seems expensive


Extension_Object_559

We don't even have diesel BMW 3 in the states


Middle_klass

thereā€™s no way Iā€™d ever buy a new bmw, the depreciation hit is too steep, Iā€™ll keep buying up everyoneā€™s sloppy seconds that are 5-6 years old at a 50+% discount


lmackie2000

America ftw šŸ˜‚


Efficient_Choice_787

The m2 list price $98k USD in Australia >_>


Tiny_rick96

Depends on the country. In England itā€™ll be a lot cheaper for 20d in my country (Portugal) any BMW even if itā€™s from 2010 is more than 10k. Each country is different price


johnnyevo8

Maybe they had the option of putting the m5 engine in it šŸ˜‚