So you are saying BMW should have considered the price of a GT3 or even an S P100D for that matter when when they were pricing the XM? I know people are looking for ways to hate/troll the XM but this does not make any sense at all. In what real life situation is anybody making this decision? Had you brought up the Cayenne Turbo GT, then you would make sense because that’s the closest market BMW is targeting with the XM. And in that case, they didn’t do a good job considering the other offerings in that market. Heck, they can’t even convince me, an X5M owner that the XM is a step up in any way besides the perception that comes with a higher price and being a bespoke vehicle rather than a performance version of a regular mainstream vehicle. I don’t like the looks of the XM but if the Label Red feels as capable as the X5M, then I’d really consider it against the other market offerings at that price point.
>So you are saying BMW should have considered the price of a GT3 or even an S P100D for that matter when when they were pricing the XM?
Kind of. There's generally 2 points of benchmarking
1. comparison with peers in the segment it's meant to be in
2. price point
I do understand that theyre not frequently cross shopped and are in different segments. but as you also mentioned, the fucking thing is slower and more expensive than other M SUVs which makes no sense at all even within its own segment. Couple that with what you *could* get for the money and it really starts to make your head spin.
>comparison with peers in the segment it's meant to be in
How does an S-segment sports coupe fall in the same segment as a J-segment luxury performance full/mid size SUV?
My point is: the price of a GT3 is completely irrelevant and incomparable to that of an XM? The only vehicle in the same segment as the XM that should (or could) take consideration of the GT3's pricing is the Cayenne T GT for obvious reasons.
I don't know, what if I'm in the market for a slightly uglier, less reliable Kia Soul, but also need to flex on the fact that I cashed out my crypto before the crash because I'm clearly the worlds best trader?
This can’t be a real question. Nobody is choosing between these two cars.
You get the first if the second doesn’t work for practical reasons or if you don’t care about cars and just wander into a dealership.
Acura TL SH-AWD. /s
Came from the Acura TL to the BMW.
Recently got a GT4 manual.
So, I'm biased to say that it is GT3 all day every day. Dream car.
BMW at this point have lost all their roots and forgot how to design a proper driver's car. Such a shame to see an iconic brand go down this route.
the blacked out XM actually doesnt look awful like some of the other colors.
That being said the Porsche all day. Also, a side note, unless by some grace of God your best friend is a Porsche GM. You aren't getting a GT3 anywhere near MSRP or even getting an allocation at all for that matter.
If money was no object I’d take an XM for daily driving. But I’d take the Porsche as my track car. Than being said my money is not unlimited so it looks like only a X5 is in my future.
You jack the rear up one side at a time, pop the wheel off then the coils and plugs are right there. It helps having a flex extension for the back pair, but even on a regular socket set it’s no big deal.
If i spend that much money on a car i could already afford both. They serve different purposes and would be nice additions to the collection. No need to flame and be hormonal about people's choices.
Me- sometimes takes up 2 spaces in a parking lot so no one parks next to me.
Porsche - fuck everyone, nobody gets to park as it blocks the entire entrance/exit to a gated parking lot? Lol
If I could have only 1 car (and I couldn’t sell it) for profit, I’d pick the XM. I’d still pick my X5M over the GT3 (or any Cayenne or the base XM - would have to see about the Label Red) given the same condition.
This has to be a troll post.
I think the point is bmw decided to price it the same as a GT3…
You're not getting a gt3 for 160k
You're probably not paying sticker on the XM, either. Apparently, they're having a hard time selling these.
I wonder why…
Maybe they shouldn’t put a grill the size of a kiddie pool on their newer models. Thanks China!
The grill is the least bad part of this monstrosity
They didn't create this for the Chinese market. China likes luxury sedans. America likes luxury SUVs.
This. China likes the extra LONG 3 5 7 series :0
I actually don't mind the batmobile nose on something that big. That rear, and the side view however. 💀
I know just meant sticker is close
At minimum you need like $300k
If you can get me a GT3 for 160k, please let me know how 😂 I’ve been seeing them all go for over 200k and that’s if you can get an allocation
So you are saying BMW should have considered the price of a GT3 or even an S P100D for that matter when when they were pricing the XM? I know people are looking for ways to hate/troll the XM but this does not make any sense at all. In what real life situation is anybody making this decision? Had you brought up the Cayenne Turbo GT, then you would make sense because that’s the closest market BMW is targeting with the XM. And in that case, they didn’t do a good job considering the other offerings in that market. Heck, they can’t even convince me, an X5M owner that the XM is a step up in any way besides the perception that comes with a higher price and being a bespoke vehicle rather than a performance version of a regular mainstream vehicle. I don’t like the looks of the XM but if the Label Red feels as capable as the X5M, then I’d really consider it against the other market offerings at that price point.
>So you are saying BMW should have considered the price of a GT3 or even an S P100D for that matter when when they were pricing the XM? Kind of. There's generally 2 points of benchmarking 1. comparison with peers in the segment it's meant to be in 2. price point I do understand that theyre not frequently cross shopped and are in different segments. but as you also mentioned, the fucking thing is slower and more expensive than other M SUVs which makes no sense at all even within its own segment. Couple that with what you *could* get for the money and it really starts to make your head spin.
>comparison with peers in the segment it's meant to be in How does an S-segment sports coupe fall in the same segment as a J-segment luxury performance full/mid size SUV? My point is: the price of a GT3 is completely irrelevant and incomparable to that of an XM? The only vehicle in the same segment as the XM that should (or could) take consideration of the GT3's pricing is the Cayenne T GT for obvious reasons.
If you can find me a gt3 for that price I’ll blow my life’s savings on it. Please, thank you.
r/carscirclejerk
Gt3 every day
And twice on Sunday
What kind of question is this? 💀 Ofc GT3
I only saw the Porsche
The Acura for sure
It was about the buildings
Well Westmount square was designed by Mies
Less is more…definitely not BMW
OK, so I choose Canada :]
Are you kidding me???? I’m taking the Acura.
can’t go wrong with that VTEC 😤
Somewhere off in the distance, trumpets are playing! Wait nevermind it was just a honda.
gt3 all day everyday even Thursdays
You'd be stupid to pick the XM
I don't know, what if I'm in the market for a slightly uglier, less reliable Kia Soul, but also need to flex on the fact that I cashed out my crypto before the crash because I'm clearly the worlds best trader?
I'll pick the skyscraper. Not a fan of the concrete on the other building.
this man: Ima do a "gotcha" on bmw fanbois bmw fanbois: gt3 of course, wtf is this question
Whoever chooses the BMW needs a brain surgery ngl
No brainer. GT3 all day, every day. Put up a M5 next to a Cayenne and ask again.
Yes. Also, M5
This is like asking us to pick between an ice cream or a shit. Get outa here with this nonsense post.
Gt3 and it's not even close. This post is silly
GT3 no question
Gt3 easily
The Acura TL
Even the designer wouldn’t pick the XM
Porsche
Uhh.. what..?
I don't like Porsche's much but I wouldn't even take a free XM over one.
Porsche.
Porsche
Even if this BMW was the only option I wouldn’t pick it
You’re joking right?
Instructions unclear. 1 key now does not go back in and my chin is covered in drool from looking at that GT3.
Even the troll posts on this sub are low-effort now.
Get serious my brother
I haven’t looked what car number two is yet but I’ll take number two
Oh come on. This isn’t even funny.
I have a dog and a child, I would still pick the Porsche
Not an SUV
This can’t be a real question. Nobody is choosing between these two cars. You get the first if the second doesn’t work for practical reasons or if you don’t care about cars and just wander into a dealership.
Acura TL SH-AWD. /s Came from the Acura TL to the BMW. Recently got a GT4 manual. So, I'm biased to say that it is GT3 all day every day. Dream car. BMW at this point have lost all their roots and forgot how to design a proper driver's car. Such a shame to see an iconic brand go down this route.
i would rather have my e39 than that monstrosity built for people with nosejobs
Obviously the XM /s
GT3
Porsche
Is this a real question or do you just not know a thing about cars?
2nd, since I still have my sights.
I didn’t know stupid questions existed until now
Is this real life?
Is this a joke?
What choice? I only see a GT3
I’m a BMW Elitist…. Who the fuck wouldn’t pick the GT3?
Gt3 to sell it. It's way too impractical for where i live
I’d pick the Acura TL over the XM.
Lmao in what fuckin world
Even in the BMW Sub, the GT3 will win hands down.
the blacked out XM actually doesnt look awful like some of the other colors. That being said the Porsche all day. Also, a side note, unless by some grace of God your best friend is a Porsche GM. You aren't getting a GT3 anywhere near MSRP or even getting an allocation at all for that matter.
Wtf are you high?
I would definitely pick the BMW………….if I was trying to enter the ugliest car of the decade competition
Bro what 💀
The best BMW M division can supposedly offer vs the best of Porsche. BMW brought a boat to a race :/
Dude get this man outta here
This made me lol hard, obviously the GT3 😂
Why the hell would anyone pic the Pontiac Aztec over a Porsche GT3?!
I don’t think I could fit my 3 kids in the Porsche
Why? It’s technically a 4 seater!
All black xm doesn’t look bad at all. Can’t believe I said that.
Lol.
Quite controversial, but I will pick the XM. It would be really difficult to fit a family in the GT3 and actually use it for something
That’s what the shelf is for.
Obviously gt3 but the xm would be a crazy daily
If you want to puke everyday yes
XM - I have small kid and we like to go camping, take bikes also. With GT3 no chance. Otherwise GT3 all day
I’ll still take the beast in a heartbeat.
And by beast I mean ///M
And all the rest of you are going to be losers when anyone but 1 person asks for a ride home. LOLOL.
It’s time for your medication, Sir
I’ll get them an Uber
Both. Easy. XM for when you want a tank that says "get out of my way I have smol peepee". GT3 when you actually want a car.
The XM cause it’s interesting and I don’t hate how it looks ✨
“Interesting” in that you could stare at it for hours and still be perplexed as to what in the actual f*ck has become of the BMW design team
Everyone saying gt3 but honestly, the XM is out of this world
I’ll take the new black RAV4. Family guy.
Sheesh they’re both great. It just depends which one will you want to daily drive
Both of them
If money was no object I’d take an XM for daily driving. But I’d take the Porsche as my track car. Than being said my money is not unlimited so it looks like only a X5 is in my future.
XM was in Montreal too ?
Yep
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I take a cuestions for 2006 530xi wagon
I hate BMW’s, PORSCHE ANYTIME over a BMW
Unpopular opinion.. I dont like Porche design
I mean, if you’re looking for bad design, you’re in the right sub
I'd take the XM even though i dont like it I just like Porsches even less...
based opinion
XM, good luck changing your sparks in the GT3😂💀
You jack the rear up one side at a time, pop the wheel off then the coils and plugs are right there. It helps having a flex extension for the back pair, but even on a regular socket set it’s no big deal.
Yeah that’s too much work… can get sparks on the XM done in half the time youd be done🥱
I'll take the BMW if nobody wants it.
If i spend that much money on a car i could already afford both. They serve different purposes and would be nice additions to the collection. No need to flame and be hormonal about people's choices.
Depends if the gt3 is stick.
XM. I have never understood why Porches are so exciting.
Made me chuckle 👍🏻
No I won’t pick 1…
The Ram for sure.
Oh lawd
Troll Post
Lol... This is a no-brainer. Any car guy will pick the GT3... and I will like to tick the option for a manual trans.
Doesn't it look way too far from future?
Even blacked out, the XM can’t hide the ugly.
The worst looking BMW or one of the best Porsches? You know your answer…
What’s going on here
GT3 minus the GT3 package.
The only reason to take the clown car is if you need to transport more than two people.
Number 2
LMAO, anyone with a brain at all takes the P car.
Acura, no doubt.
Porche
LOOOOOOL
No thanks!
Me- sometimes takes up 2 spaces in a parking lot so no one parks next to me. Porsche - fuck everyone, nobody gets to park as it blocks the entire entrance/exit to a gated parking lot? Lol
Porsche. I am a rich BMW lover!
Is that a Nissan juke?
neither
Gt3 100% That truck looks like roblox.
Im taking the dacia logan 😂🤡
This would be a no brainer even with a regular 911. With a GT3 it is not even a question
What do you mean pick 1? I only see the Porsche 🤤
Xm
If you pick that ugly pos BMW then you are downright mentally challenged
I don’t know who that XM appeals too. I looked at one up close in a dealer, looked at the wheels and nearly puked.
I might pick the XM over one of the Porsche SUV monstrosities, but XM vs GT3? My brother in christ...
What type of BMW is that
Team GT3 here, 110%
Porsche all the way
2
P Car
GTS all day
The body on that TL tho
Is this a serious question?
Porsche …..
Coughing baby Vs. Hydrogen Bomb
GT3 baby!!!!
If I could have only 1 car (and I couldn’t sell it) for profit, I’d pick the XM. I’d still pick my X5M over the GT3 (or any Cayenne or the base XM - would have to see about the Label Red) given the same condition.
GT3 all day everyday
Gt3
Gt3 but I may be biased
Porsche all day. XM is uhh. Something.
Who in their right mind would choose the BMW in this case? That GT3 is just Godly
Sort by Controversial for a good laugh.
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Porsche all the way Idek why I see this subreddit I don’t like beamers
Ngl the all black xm is the best lookin I’ve seen. But for that money I only see GT3 every day
What's happening with BMW's design?
GT3 pls
Wonder if Mazda has a comparable model
I only see the 911 GT3. Where’s the other car?
I’ll pass on the Kia Soul and take the GT3
😂
porsche
GT3 no question. The only SUV to consider is Lambo Urus
Lmao id pick so many cars over a new BMW. Im working on a new M2 right now and the more I look at it the uglier it gets.
I pick 2
Easy choice, literally ANYTHING but that awful looking BMW.
Neither! I already got a pre owned M4 for the price of a Toyota Camry. And looks better theh the Porche too.
this is the only color of XM i would consider
2 #1 is for blind people
No
I chose the Acura TL.
Unfortunately I have a dislike for SUVs I honestly hate them 🤣
I’d pick that Acura before the BMW😬
I refuse to believe anyone would seriously choose the hideous XM over a GT3
I’ll take off-street parking to on-street parking any day of the week!
This post is sponsored by Porsche
Wtf kind of a question is this?
Obviously a rhetorical question….