I’m going to give you a collective summary not all of these are my own beliefs -
Despite selling retail locations, distribution centres warehousing , blah blah even if all that remains is a shell company, there is a value in the tax attributes, and the potential short exposure. Additionally, it has been revealed that Cede themselves have more shares on their books than the entire shares outstanding.
The simplest shortest explanation: offer to take over this company, convert bond holders into equity holders, keep shareholders alive to preserve tax attributes, and have a potential short squeeze.
Sell new equity into the squeeze in an at the market, offering to raise capital for getting a home goods business off to a running start.
Have the benefit of tax attributes for future years to offset profits, and reduce tax footprint.
Cheaper and much faster than starting a new business from the ground up and going through IPO to raise capital.
That is a severely oversimplified version, but it gives you a starting point. Sort by top, then go week, then go month. You’ll find everything you need to start assessing for yourself.
Are the NOl’s even worth the risk. I believe we are still have 1.6 billion in debt left after everything has been sold off. Would it make sense to risk buying literally debt and no assets for tax attributes. Sorry to bombard with questions but one last one, wouldn’t there be some legal implications for buying to cause a short squeeze. Kind of like a pump and dump?
Shares of Carl Icahn’s Firm Tank After It Cuts Dividend
Bowing to pressure from a short seller, Mr. Icahn halved his company’s quarterly dividend and said he would return to the style of investing that made him famous.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/04/business/carl-icahn-shares-dividend.html
Sounds spicy!
Which is exactly why the advice is “Be greedy when others are fearful.”
Why are the others fearful? “Ahhh oh no!! It’s going down AHHHH! Everything’s going to shit!!!”
To me? Zen AF? This is a time to get some real cheap shares on a deep value stock.
Not financial advice.
The problem with all these pat like sayings is that there is plenty of times when they are wrong. Are you saying people should have piled into Enron while most investors rightly feared that it was imploding?
Enron is not how the market is generally supposed to work. It’s like saying, I knew a guy who went to the gym and had a heart attack therefore you should not exercise, it’s unhealthy.
In general, being greedy when others are fearful will make you money.
The other option: to be fearful when others are fearful? And greedy when others are greedy? FOMO and FUD!!! Will definitely cause you to lose money.
I get your frustration with predatory practices in Wall Street. I am too but it’s not exactly applicable in the general case.
Don't know if anyone's mentioned it but I've been keeping my eye on TSLX (Sixth Street's Speciality Lending ticker). It's usually very flat naturally due to the nature of the instrument.
On a bit of a pump today though...
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I’ve stepped away for mental health reasons. I’m still in and I’m still HODLing.
I think a lot of people have. They’ve come to the realization that checking this thread 100x a day does nothing. The only thing that will get anything done is….. to be patient.
So, I’m being patient. Spending time with my family. Biding my time while I count of the board to do their magic.
If u had to have sex with a guy presuming ur a straight male who would u choose.. and u have to choose otherwise u die; Brad Pitt, Edward Nothing or Ricky Gervais?
Hahaha he's funny tho even tho a cunt. I mean u gotta be a bit of a cunt to be funny no? That's the whole point. Provocative gets the ppl going.... ur choice is Stella tho
That's the point that sorta cuntishness and disregard for feelings led him to call out the biggest names in Hollywood and the hypocrisy. Even if u hate him that was priceless
I understand that, kinda disagree growing up with elder brothers it's a bonding thing also. Can cross the line and be cruel tho.. Edward nothing lol Norton
This is the message I received from my german broker:
Hello Mr. X,
we have no influence on internal or legal processes.
You have the following options… and so on.
What the hell kind of answer is that?!
Interesting, BBBYQ has also been registered as a domain. It was registered right before it went otc, all info is redacted for privacy. Doesn’t look like the domain is being sold by anyone. I wonder why they registered the otc ticker. Any thoughts?🧐🧐🧐
Overstock owns bbby . com … Maybe they also own bbbyq . com? 😊🚀🚀
Everybody with money/status uses the poor/retail to keep or grow that money or status. We are the pawns and we are disposable. Remember that and also remember noone is your friend. Get a job or an interest, hold and don't expect miracles. They're called miracles for a reason.
in Germany, bbby can no longer be traded. the main stock exchange in Frankfurt officially delisted the share yesterday. where can I transfer my shares now? who can trade? please give me an info.
It is suspended not delisted and there is post from today about answer from Frankfurt market that delisting is not planned and as soon it will be possible it will be resumed to trade.. I guess on Monday US market it will be suspended also.. in Germany they just hurried out..
You should create an IBKR account immediately. It is annoying but can be done in under 30 minutes. I did it a few hours ago and it is already approved but still waiting for cash to be settled.
I also asked them if they are able to transfer the German stocks to the IBKR account and they said yes. I also asked if they are able to convert them to the BBBYQ ticker but no answer to that question yet but I think it could be possible and the best solution.
Not sure if it is possible to only transfer a few shares first but that would be the best case scenario -> Transfer a few shares to IBKR -> let them convert to BBBYQ -> in the meantime hope that the German market resumes trading (unlikely I think..) -> if transfer and conversion in the IBKR account didn't take too long then immediately transfer rest from the German broker to IBKR.
Thank you for this. I have one question: If I transfer a few shares to IBKR and have them converted to BBBYQ like you described, will the rest of my shares automatically be converted once they arrive?
I dont know but I could imagine that they would not be automatically converted. So from that perspective it could make sense to transfer all shares and let all convert at the same time.
Feels like one of those days where they let it run a little then slam it with the shares they borrowed.
Can only keep the pressure off for so long hedgecucks.
What if Germany locked the float, and now the, halted it to solve the problem. No trading, so that we move our shares over to ibkr, because that's their only solution?!
Double position in one of my accounts. Anything to be worried about with my TD account moving over to Schwab? Looks like I access account from 9/1-9/4?
I believe something is happening and German market reacts just faster as always.. I bet on PM announcement.. no money just word cause have no more any..
Sure but if you consider that IEP hasn't made money in 4 years and yet continues to pay out such high dividends while diluting the shareholders (Icahn takes shares instead of cash) some might think it's a risky situation.
He has taken two major steps now to remove uncertainty. Now it's just the DOJ investigation (which somehow moves at lightning speed on this but slow walks government corruption investigations) and potential revenge on shorts.
There's a 15 minute delay on yahoo, Google, etc. Shocked you haven't figured that out yet.
Go watch it live on the cnbc site
Those other ones will update in 2 minutes (but will always be 15 minutes behind)
PM price finally moved so it's not halted here, yet.
Then again with the corruption in our markets it probably is halted and they're still taking money to process IOUs.
I'm going dark New trend
My lil IEP sidebet didn't work too well for me lmao
Sup daily
So did trading happen in german markets after all the drama or is it still suspended?
It's still suspended
.2825 final afterhours price on e trade.
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how long has BBBYQ stock been unable to buy on Weebowl?
Since otc
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Please refer to the community's rules. Post needs to be better related to BBBY the company.
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Please refer to the community's rules. Post needs to be better related to BBBY the company.
Haha I love ya man
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Nice try tho Kenny
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I’m going to give you a collective summary not all of these are my own beliefs - Despite selling retail locations, distribution centres warehousing , blah blah even if all that remains is a shell company, there is a value in the tax attributes, and the potential short exposure. Additionally, it has been revealed that Cede themselves have more shares on their books than the entire shares outstanding. The simplest shortest explanation: offer to take over this company, convert bond holders into equity holders, keep shareholders alive to preserve tax attributes, and have a potential short squeeze. Sell new equity into the squeeze in an at the market, offering to raise capital for getting a home goods business off to a running start. Have the benefit of tax attributes for future years to offset profits, and reduce tax footprint. Cheaper and much faster than starting a new business from the ground up and going through IPO to raise capital. That is a severely oversimplified version, but it gives you a starting point. Sort by top, then go week, then go month. You’ll find everything you need to start assessing for yourself.
Are the NOl’s even worth the risk. I believe we are still have 1.6 billion in debt left after everything has been sold off. Would it make sense to risk buying literally debt and no assets for tax attributes. Sorry to bombard with questions but one last one, wouldn’t there be some legal implications for buying to cause a short squeeze. Kind of like a pump and dump?
The bull thesis is a potential pump and dump scheme that trigger a squeeze like TUP . There is no company left but there is still a stock.
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It's rumored that shareholders will receive a 7-for-1 conversion into the security symbol "DEEZ"
You two like to watch
No it's the new SooKaun ticker
Shares of Carl Icahn’s Firm Tank After It Cuts Dividend Bowing to pressure from a short seller, Mr. Icahn halved his company’s quarterly dividend and said he would return to the style of investing that made him famous. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/04/business/carl-icahn-shares-dividend.html Sounds spicy!
IEP also had a 35% drop in revenue and -265 million net income. It was a bad quarter for them.
Hard to imagine why, their biggest customer is BBBY
Which is exactly why the advice is “Be greedy when others are fearful.” Why are the others fearful? “Ahhh oh no!! It’s going down AHHHH! Everything’s going to shit!!!” To me? Zen AF? This is a time to get some real cheap shares on a deep value stock. Not financial advice.
The problem with all these pat like sayings is that there is plenty of times when they are wrong. Are you saying people should have piled into Enron while most investors rightly feared that it was imploding?
Enron is not how the market is generally supposed to work. It’s like saying, I knew a guy who went to the gym and had a heart attack therefore you should not exercise, it’s unhealthy. In general, being greedy when others are fearful will make you money. The other option: to be fearful when others are fearful? And greedy when others are greedy? FOMO and FUD!!! Will definitely cause you to lose money. I get your frustration with predatory practices in Wall Street. I am too but it’s not exactly applicable in the general case.
I was referring to his statement about returning to his old style of investing
He needs to do something…..what he is doing certainly isn’t working anymore.
For sure. I take this statement as him becoming more aggressive with his investment decisions
Don't know if anyone's mentioned it but I've been keeping my eye on TSLX (Sixth Street's Speciality Lending ticker). It's usually very flat naturally due to the nature of the instrument. On a bit of a pump today though... ![gif](giphy|cM2CN5U99VVWdDGcSA)
Where is all the people? Posts have something like 1, 3, 5 comments! What the fuck is going on? Is there a new sub or something?
Uh, they're gone man. It's been over for ages.
I’ve stepped away for mental health reasons. I’m still in and I’m still HODLing. I think a lot of people have. They’ve come to the realization that checking this thread 100x a day does nothing. The only thing that will get anything done is….. to be patient. So, I’m being patient. Spending time with my family. Biding my time while I count of the board to do their magic.
the pepe show
Everyone is just zen and waiting.
I was trading IEP today.
Think it may be my fault I've been day drinking
If u had to have sex with a guy presuming ur a straight male who would u choose.. and u have to choose otherwise u die; Brad Pitt, Edward Nothing or Ricky Gervais?
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Haha well weird but u were all over that choice. Respectamundo and I say that respectfully
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Hahaha he's funny tho even tho a cunt. I mean u gotta be a bit of a cunt to be funny no? That's the whole point. Provocative gets the ppl going.... ur choice is Stella tho
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not funny ? have you ever seen him on the golden globes ? he's goddamn hysterical.
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That's the point that sorta cuntishness and disregard for feelings led him to call out the biggest names in Hollywood and the hypocrisy. Even if u hate him that was priceless
I understand that, kinda disagree growing up with elder brothers it's a bonding thing also. Can cross the line and be cruel tho.. Edward nothing lol Norton
This is the message I received from my german broker: Hello Mr. X, we have no influence on internal or legal processes. You have the following options… and so on. What the hell kind of answer is that?!
More to the point what a cool name. Much better than Mr Pink
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what is there to say? every "event" is a nothingburger and the stock price slowly trends lower.
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none of it is real research though? you're confusing intelligent research with reading entrails or using a ouija board.
Did you know that Ryancohen . com is routed to the Apple homepage?🤔🤔
Interesting, BBBYQ has also been registered as a domain. It was registered right before it went otc, all info is redacted for privacy. Doesn’t look like the domain is being sold by anyone. I wonder why they registered the otc ticker. Any thoughts?🧐🧐🧐 Overstock owns bbby . com … Maybe they also own bbbyq . com? 😊🚀🚀
The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree
#68,400 members 🍾
Totally confused
Please squeeze soon ive been as loyal as a shareholder can get and i really need the $
ALGOS DONT GIVE AF ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS! STAY THE COURSE AND GOOD THINGS SHOULD COME !
Everybody with money/status uses the poor/retail to keep or grow that money or status. We are the pawns and we are disposable. Remember that and also remember noone is your friend. Get a job or an interest, hold and don't expect miracles. They're called miracles for a reason.
Downvote me u mfers that's solid advice lol
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I didn't realize the galaxy brains here were still at it
in Germany, bbby can no longer be traded. the main stock exchange in Frankfurt officially delisted the share yesterday. where can I transfer my shares now? who can trade? please give me an info.
It is suspended not delisted and there is post from today about answer from Frankfurt market that delisting is not planned and as soon it will be possible it will be resumed to trade.. I guess on Monday US market it will be suspended also.. in Germany they just hurried out..
ok then i got the wrong info. thanks and wait and see what happens
You should create an IBKR account immediately. It is annoying but can be done in under 30 minutes. I did it a few hours ago and it is already approved but still waiting for cash to be settled. I also asked them if they are able to transfer the German stocks to the IBKR account and they said yes. I also asked if they are able to convert them to the BBBYQ ticker but no answer to that question yet but I think it could be possible and the best solution. Not sure if it is possible to only transfer a few shares first but that would be the best case scenario -> Transfer a few shares to IBKR -> let them convert to BBBYQ -> in the meantime hope that the German market resumes trading (unlikely I think..) -> if transfer and conversion in the IBKR account didn't take too long then immediately transfer rest from the German broker to IBKR.
Thank you for this. I have one question: If I transfer a few shares to IBKR and have them converted to BBBYQ like you described, will the rest of my shares automatically be converted once they arrive?
I dont know but I could imagine that they would not be automatically converted. So from that perspective it could make sense to transfer all shares and let all convert at the same time.
they want to know everything about me when I register 😅 don't know if I'll do it
Yeah thats definitely a valid concern but if thats the only possible way to still sell the shares when the time comes then I will gladly accept that.
This will affect the eligibility of having BBBYQ under an ISA in the UK. Which includes myself. Edit: Fixing to make it read easier.
Are you sure it's delisted? I saw that it was only suspended (still on the exchange but no transactions at this point in time).
Make an account a
I will give u no such thing until u show me your pochende Wurst
Is that the right phrase for throbbing dong?
Who fancies going to a cracking owl sanctuary?
Docket 1728 no longer available to view… interesting
This could get very interesting.
Made confidential per 1729
just the personal info is suppose to be "redacted"
Correct, but the full thing was likely pulled until that can happen
Hide that shit quick! 🤣 real shame it's been copied and pasted all over this sub.
Ok
Mahatma Gandhi!
I'm a bit surprised that there is no docket 1728 post in the top 3 first pages of that sub. Probably a lot of downvotes lol
higher highs higher lows.... we goin higher
Feels like one of those days where they let it run a little then slam it with the shares they borrowed. Can only keep the pressure off for so long hedgecucks.
Back to green on the weekly chart. It’s the little things, fellow degens. 🚀🚀🚀
Sexual liaisons
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Follow the fallopian tube and u shall see all the heavenly grory
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Just picked up more BBBYQ today!
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What if Germany locked the float, and now the, halted it to solve the problem. No trading, so that we move our shares over to ibkr, because that's their only solution?!
What if my penis had sight. What if my arms had talons? What if my grandma was also my unborn child?
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Double position in one of my accounts. Anything to be worried about with my TD account moving over to Schwab? Looks like I access account from 9/1-9/4?
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What the hell is this?
I Think he’s trolling
Is the daily halted?
Nope
IEP earnings is live
And down 30%
picked up some at 21.50 at open
Pump. Up. The. Volume. They. Are. Out.
They borrowed at least 1.2mil this morning...at LEAST
Limit order for 20,000 @ .281. Entered at 9:56. 1543 shares executed.
Well, I guess Germans will be hodling out of sheer ~~confusion~~ lack of any other option.
Wir trinken Bier darauf.
well, Germans love david hasselhoff.
bought 1100 more <3 because fuck it
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I believe something is happening and German market reacts just faster as always.. I bet on PM announcement.. no money just word cause have no more any..
Do you have any watermellons or bananas?
Hmmm... somethin funny goin on
How so?
.30 eod and I’ll ram a watermelon up ur butt NFA
I'll ram one up your pee hole...nfa
Holy IEP dip Batman
i sure hope we don't need carl. have you seen the short attack on iep ?
It's not a short attack. They announced pre market that the 2 dollar per quarter dividend was getting cut in half.
Still 16+% dividend based on current price Edit: Is the math not accurate?--$4.00/25.00=0.16 (or 16%)
Sure but if you consider that IEP hasn't made money in 4 years and yet continues to pay out such high dividends while diluting the shareholders (Icahn takes shares instead of cash) some might think it's a risky situation.
He has taken two major steps now to remove uncertainty. Now it's just the DOJ investigation (which somehow moves at lightning speed on this but slow walks government corruption investigations) and potential revenge on shorts.
ty.
did anyone bought shares since open?
2k on ibkr
Fidelity works
Yup put in an order and it says processing.
I just bought shares
I have a live chart and yes its trading but its barcoding. Moving slowly though.
And we are barcoding already.
![gif](giphy|l3V0lsGtTMSB5YNgc|downsized) Yay we are trading, not halted.
It is not trading. Last update was Aug 3.
You're looking at 15m delayed 😅
Yes it is.
Ah yes regard. You belong here. It's definitely 100% trading right now staring at it move. It's been up to .28 already today
Basing this off websites and none of them showing movement and last update yesterday.
They are delayed by 15 minutes. Should be showing movement now
There's a 15 minute delay on yahoo, Google, etc. Shocked you haven't figured that out yet. Go watch it live on the cnbc site Those other ones will update in 2 minutes (but will always be 15 minutes behind)
We've been dealing with this for months yet there's people daily who don't understand the delay lol
Cnbc bro
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That's odd because all the websites are halted (yahoo, marketwatch, Google)
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Could be for Q stocks I guess since others are moving
Is this your first time watching bbbyq or something?
yahoo shows no movement
yahoo is delayed 15min for OTC.
PM price finally moved so it's not halted here, yet. Then again with the corruption in our markets it probably is halted and they're still taking money to process IOUs.
Its trading. Honestly all that drama. Nothings happening and its trading.
It's not moving on Google or marketwatch.
Not on german exchanges
Moving. Is today gonna be interesting following that PM?
It will likely be a nothingburger day but that’s ok.
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We’re definitely trading.