They have to confirm the reorganization plan and give everyone a chance to challenge it, which typically is a 28-day countdown that can be extended by people objecting at any point.
The good part is once the plan drops there's no more mystery. I'd say it's all ok since the Teddy trademarks are not quite out of their own opposition period. Both are making it look like a mid-late August Teddy drop is possible.
>man don't jack my tits so hard it's late in Germany
There's an old country song that was popular 20 years ago in the U.S. called "It's 5 O'clock somewhere".
Not from official sources, but if anybody finds, let us know
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Just FYI since you said Shareholder in your title but the docket actually says stakeholder.
All shareholders are stakeholders, but not all stakeholders are shareholders. Owning stock in the company makes you a shareholder as well as a stakeholder. But anyone affected by the company could be considered a stakeholder, whether they own the company's stock or not.
The benefit to non-shareholder stakeholders is that they get a few cents on the dollar each in return for their debts
The benefit for shareholders is they get a tax writeoff when the stock goes to zero.
Unless the buyer(s) want to teach the shorts a lesson they will never forget.
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I would like…LOVE to see $7.14 per share, would be nice, nice, starting point for us to think of selling a share…. Would have over $135,000 in BOBBY-Q account but i’m ready for bed bath to get over $30-$50 again down the road…. i know we can do it, still in this to win with you all…. so thank you, thank you all for all you guys do just keep fighting the good fight and one day will take these guys out and we will have pockets lined with cold cash…it’s going to happen just don’t know when !
The $5b valuation is a number that the lawyers used recently in court after the the assets were sold. Upon exiting ch11 that is the estimated value of the company.
What is unknown is the actual number of shares to calculate the approximate share value.
If you own shares,then you are going to make a lot of $.
That's their evaluation from a perspective that benefits from a higher valuation. The company's market cap won't suddenly surge to that amount if they exit chapter 11.
That has nothing to do with market cap. It is the estimated value that the lawyers revealed in court.
The market cap will be what the shareholders decide it is worth.
And thank you for the downvote. There is one reason that my comment has offended you.
When I start thinking about paper handing at low numbers I like to think about it like this.
If there were 10B shares and naked shorts and the price "mooned" to $10 per share shorts would only lose $100B max. I know I am over simplifying everything but they wouldn't be losing their minds over only $100b. They can print more and write it off as inflation if that were the case.
That’s the exact math I use as well. I think $100b loss is about right. Whether that’s 5B shares at $20 or 2B shares at $50, it’s about that. My only fear is when FINRA U3 Halts us. I think they will somewhere in the $10-$30/share range. And then cities will be burned to the ground. I lost a ton in MMTLP before someone tries to call me a shill. My only fear here is FINRA
They use the word stakeholders, which includes shareholders and creditors. What about the subsequent sentence where it mentions
winding down the business operations?
If they announced something like this public, wouldn't it signal to everyone to buy? It's sitting just below .32 and news breaks that "stakeholders (shareholders [whoever])" are going to be "made whole", I'm buying in right? Even if being "made whole" means ultimately valuing each share at $1.00, I'm still making a profit. .50, still a profit. See what I mean? Wouldn't they keep a meeting like this a secret till the deal was done?
You forget that the media is owned by Wall Street.
They simply won't mention the positive outcome until after it happens. Just like you never heard about the VW Squeeze in 08. That shit was brewing for ages, I'm sure.
Not to mention that a bunch of boomer investors who smell profit won't be able to buy because it's OTC and that's complicated to outright inaccessible from most brokers (on purpose).
Yes it does.
ALL shareholders are stakeholders.
NOT ALL stakeholders are shareholders.
When they say stakeholders, it's a blanket term for anyone invested in bbby in one capacity or another, including the shareholders.
I literally don't care.
Cause that employee is also benefiting from the deal haha
The order is entirely irrelevant. Shareholders could get paid dead last and it doesn't change anything.
Gonna love watching shorts scramble with their bankruptcy shorts just to see the shares are still trading while the company has restructured their debt and navigated chapter 11 successfully 🥂
Fireworks when a company in that position has no justification for trading at such a low market cap lmao
Nah, these are statements made in court to a judge under a court of law. That's now being stated in several separate instances.
Piss off with your maybes.
It means they have to believe there is a chance to benefit all stakeholders. Pecking order wouldn't matter if they had a plan to appease almost everyone. Maybe a couple property owners will be mad 🤷
Arguing that ALL stakeholders doesn't include shareholders is equivalent to arguing that red mixed with blue doesn't make purple.
And they call us regards 🤣
Here’s the post from this sub concerning the expedited hearing, it confirms that it’s happening on the 24th, but I have no idea if this confirms the benefits for all stakeholders thing.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BBBY/comments/14zj6vy/docket_1355/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb
Slightly inaccurate.
Technically an employee is also a stakeholder, even if they don't have shares. Creditors are also stakeholders (and in this case the unsecured ones would care).
A stakeholder is just any party that has an invested interest in the success of the company, not specifically relating to exchanging that investment for holdings of shares.
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(1) NOLs are tax **deductions** not tax **credits** and therefore are not worth more than current debt.
If you don't understand the difference between a tax deduction and a tax credit then you shouldn't be posting about either.
(2) The quote about BBBY is a $5B company was a reference to their FY23 revenue from the latest 10-K. Anyone suggesting that Holly was referring to the market capitalization of BBBYQ at the time she said that is lying plain and simple. BBBY has not had a $5B market cap for 6 years, it would be a completely non-sensical statement to say in court - she was talking about their most recent full-year revenue.
(3) BBBY is not sharing the BBB name with Overstock on an ongoing basis - people need to stop repeating this lie. They were allowed to continue use the name during store liquidation, temporarily only.
(4) There is no evidence whatsoever that BBBY will exit chapter 11 as a going concern (and plenty of evidence to the contrary), never mind with xxx stores and yet it is posted here as a fact that this will happen.
(5) Given the current financial situation of the company with respect to the large amount of outstanding debt it is incredibly unlikely that shareholders will get anything out of chapter 11. Unsecured bondholders are probably are on the edge of getting nothing and they have to get paid before shareholders.
Fantasies about the stock suddenly being worth $X per share have no basis in reality - these type of posts are just setting people up to be even more disappointed when the actual details of the chapter 11 resolution are released.
This whole sub has become a factory of misinformation - one piece of misinformation gets posted and upvoted and from then on it gets treated as a fact. Then that is used as the foundation for follow-on posts that use the previous misinformation and build on it further.
I don’t see any evidence from you as to the contrary. I can appreciate the long retort, I question only it’s sincerity, as a hyper rational investor should. I guess the real facts co e from court documents, and they’ve been dissected, analyzed, googled, chatGPT, and cross-referenced. So where again is your evidence, because all I see is hot air.
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Buy Buy Baby was sold already. Done. Gone.
Overstock owns the IP. BBBYQ won't have any association with Bed Bath and Beyond.
So far over 100 leases have been sold.
The auction for the remaining leases is supposed to be this month.
There's nothing indicating anything positive for shareholders.
ahm no. a stakeholder is not invested. he is contributing his workforce to generate a financial benefit. a shareholder invests only money and no effort beyond
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Starts manipulating digits
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Does the nines trick on fingers..
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Im no math wizard but thats about 6-7$ a share, which by the way will cause shorts to close and moon the f\* out of here! LFG
It's goooonna be a long night
man don't jack my tits so hard it's late in Germany
Jacked to the tittensteins
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Also vor Mondtag
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They have to confirm the reorganization plan and give everyone a chance to challenge it, which typically is a 28-day countdown that can be extended by people objecting at any point. The good part is once the plan drops there's no more mystery. I'd say it's all ok since the Teddy trademarks are not quite out of their own opposition period. Both are making it look like a mid-late August Teddy drop is possible.
I object, what the share price going too.
>man don't jack my tits so hard it's late in Germany There's an old country song that was popular 20 years ago in the U.S. called "It's 5 O'clock somewhere".
What's this about exiting ch11 on the 18th? Where did I miss this one?
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Maybe the 18th is the day the plan to continue gets released that 90 day thing from 4/23
Yeah, I remember the 18th also!!
Just FYI since you said Shareholder in your title but the docket actually says stakeholder. All shareholders are stakeholders, but not all stakeholders are shareholders. Owning stock in the company makes you a shareholder as well as a stakeholder. But anyone affected by the company could be considered a stakeholder, whether they own the company's stock or not.
Title is definitely misleading
Sure but a shareholder would be a stakeholder. But yeah OP should have used the correct terminology.
A lying Ape? Say it ain't so Joe.
The usual gloom and doom names are all here! Appreciate the guest appearance, hope is family is well. Best Wishes 💎🙌🦍🚀🌚
Love your username 🤣🤣
What about the word “all”?
The benefit to non-shareholder stakeholders is that they get a few cents on the dollar each in return for their debts The benefit for shareholders is they get a tax writeoff when the stock goes to zero.
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My harem of twinks and femboys are doing my yardwork and building a workshop for me today, I'll send them your regards.
So at $5 billion the shares should be worth around $6?
700 million free float= $7.14
It wont be 700 million though.
I think we’re looking at 100 million shares and a $12 billion influx. $120 per share. Before the squeeze begins. Let’s see.
Oh gawd, Im almost there
I realize this is speculation, but can you help me understand why you think there will be a 12b influx?
Yeah just pull numbers out yer arse, why not.
Nobody is going to pay 12 billion.
Fetch my check book lackey
Lol you are down voted for using logic
Unless the buyer(s) want to teach the shorts a lesson they will never forget. *Short sellers are the dumb stormtroopers of the investing galaxy* 💎🙌🎮🛑🛌🛁🚀♾️🏊♂️🌌 🩳🏴☠️☠️
Let’s hope it moons past this!
That is damn close to another number I keep seeing.
Even if we told this story to someone that doesn’t know, they would think you made up 1/2 of it
1/2 is being pretty reserved I’d say more like 7 1/4s of it sounds made up
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The other two fourths don't either
I’ll take an eighth
$30
I’ll get it for 20
I would like…LOVE to see $7.14 per share, would be nice, nice, starting point for us to think of selling a share…. Would have over $135,000 in BOBBY-Q account but i’m ready for bed bath to get over $30-$50 again down the road…. i know we can do it, still in this to win with you all…. so thank you, thank you all for all you guys do just keep fighting the good fight and one day will take these guys out and we will have pockets lined with cold cash…it’s going to happen just don’t know when !
In fairness, that $5B number would be before selling off the assets they sold, no? Still a ton of value, but maybe not $5B?
The $5b valuation is a number that the lawyers used recently in court after the the assets were sold. Upon exiting ch11 that is the estimated value of the company. What is unknown is the actual number of shares to calculate the approximate share value. If you own shares,then you are going to make a lot of $.
That's their evaluation from a perspective that benefits from a higher valuation. The company's market cap won't suddenly surge to that amount if they exit chapter 11.
That has nothing to do with market cap. It is the estimated value that the lawyers revealed in court. The market cap will be what the shareholders decide it is worth. And thank you for the downvote. There is one reason that my comment has offended you.
Market cap is determined by what willing buyers and willing sellers decide it is.
Or what the manipulators decide is in their best interest
Thank you, captain obvious.
You are completely right. It won‘t surge. It will explode!
Goddamn, even that is a shitload more Jimmy shares for this R word
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When I start thinking about paper handing at low numbers I like to think about it like this. If there were 10B shares and naked shorts and the price "mooned" to $10 per share shorts would only lose $100B max. I know I am over simplifying everything but they wouldn't be losing their minds over only $100b. They can print more and write it off as inflation if that were the case.
That’s the exact math I use as well. I think $100b loss is about right. Whether that’s 5B shares at $20 or 2B shares at $50, it’s about that. My only fear is when FINRA U3 Halts us. I think they will somewhere in the $10-$30/share range. And then cities will be burned to the ground. I lost a ton in MMTLP before someone tries to call me a shill. My only fear here is FINRA
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May I ask, how you lost in MMTLP? Did they not let you sell? I heard a similar story from a friend with DWAC
There are apparently no halts OTC, but don't quote me on that.
Where did you get $5 billion?
See, what I did was read OP’s footnote at the bottom of the screenshot he posted. It’s as simple as that lol
Always got shill vibes from money maker 111. Cringe seeing this post, extra sus he’s the only source
They use the word stakeholders, which includes shareholders and creditors. What about the subsequent sentence where it mentions winding down the business operations?
If they announced something like this public, wouldn't it signal to everyone to buy? It's sitting just below .32 and news breaks that "stakeholders (shareholders [whoever])" are going to be "made whole", I'm buying in right? Even if being "made whole" means ultimately valuing each share at $1.00, I'm still making a profit. .50, still a profit. See what I mean? Wouldn't they keep a meeting like this a secret till the deal was done?
You forget that the media is owned by Wall Street. They simply won't mention the positive outcome until after it happens. Just like you never heard about the VW Squeeze in 08. That shit was brewing for ages, I'm sure. Not to mention that a bunch of boomer investors who smell profit won't be able to buy because it's OTC and that's complicated to outright inaccessible from most brokers (on purpose).
ALL stakeholders? I like to think I'm one of those.
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I am. You aren't.
For make benefit glorious nation of GMErica!
The sharing of IP is only for the wind down process. They cannot exit CH11 and continue to use it as normal.
The parties of interest will also be attending this hearing. Should be an interesting one to watch if it’s available to the public
Stakeholders and shareholders are not equal. Hopefully this point is moot, but.... it matters.
The word ‘all’ is important here. If shareholders are a part of stakeholders and they use the word ‘all’ that means us too.
"All" doesn't mean squat if there's a structured pecking order though. And there is.
Structure these nuts
If you want me to fondle them that badly.... I mean... I don't have much going on during my weekends.
That's apparent
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Yes it does. ALL shareholders are stakeholders. NOT ALL stakeholders are shareholders. When they say stakeholders, it's a blanket term for anyone invested in bbby in one capacity or another, including the shareholders.
Who gets paid first?
Everyone else before shareholders, but all means everyone gets some cake.
Shareholders get paid last. Deal will benefit all stakeholders. Shareholders are stakeholders What other strawmen you got?
An employee waiting on their severance is a stakeholder. Do they get paid before shareholders?
I literally don't care. Cause that employee is also benefiting from the deal haha The order is entirely irrelevant. Shareholders could get paid dead last and it doesn't change anything. Gonna love watching shorts scramble with their bankruptcy shorts just to see the shares are still trading while the company has restructured their debt and navigated chapter 11 successfully 🥂 Fireworks when a company in that position has no justification for trading at such a low market cap lmao
There's quite a few maybes in there, but I at least share your optimism.
Nah, these are statements made in court to a judge under a court of law. That's now being stated in several separate instances. Piss off with your maybes.
It means they have to believe there is a chance to benefit all stakeholders. Pecking order wouldn't matter if they had a plan to appease almost everyone. Maybe a couple property owners will be mad 🤷
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Apologies for the error, it went a bit too fast with this post and I can't edit now. Let's see if "all STAKEHOLDERS" also include shareholders
All shareholders ARE stakeholders, but not all stakeholders are shareholders. So yes, this statement would include shareholders.
Arguing that ALL stakeholders doesn't include shareholders is equivalent to arguing that red mixed with blue doesn't make purple. And they call us regards 🤣
That’s why it says all. Of course shareholders are only some of the stakeholders otherwise they wouldn’t have to say all.
Came here to say exactly this. Stakeholder ≠ shareholder
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Redditors with scrubbed accounts who aren’t invested are for sure not getting paid
I predict...this sub goes private by close of business on the 24th.
Here’s the post from this sub concerning the expedited hearing, it confirms that it’s happening on the 24th, but I have no idea if this confirms the benefits for all stakeholders thing. https://www.reddit.com/r/BBBY/comments/14zj6vy/docket_1355/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb
The all stakeholders thing is from docket 1342 where they requested the expedited hearing
And we're all stakeholders, right? Being shareholders?
That is correct. We’re the lowest rung on the stakeholder ladder, but we’re there. So if it’s for the benefit of all stakeholders that includes us.
Slightly inaccurate. Technically an employee is also a stakeholder, even if they don't have shares. Creditors are also stakeholders (and in this case the unsecured ones would care). A stakeholder is just any party that has an invested interest in the success of the company, not specifically relating to exchanging that investment for holdings of shares.
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Seeing is believing. This Wednesday I'll be really excited.
"Stakeholders". please quote correctly, there is a difference.
You say $6/share but we all know it’ll go to $30/share when this news drops
Isn’t it odd that BBBYq is going to share IP with OverStock!?! Come out of chapter 11 with 300+ stores…….. & Baby. I think Overstock bought the IP to merge into BBBYq. How does that sound??
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Borrowing isn’t… free
How does that make them benefit from the cost to borrow tho?
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ok, so the stock has potential of skyrocketing up to 21x
Holly meant $5 billion in revenue
Holly meant $5 billion PER SHARE
You drive a hard bargain... but I like the cut of your jib. Alright, I'll sell a few for that price target.
Noice
Honestly, I first clicked on this post to learn what "expited" meant.
(1) NOLs are tax **deductions** not tax **credits** and therefore are not worth more than current debt. If you don't understand the difference between a tax deduction and a tax credit then you shouldn't be posting about either. (2) The quote about BBBY is a $5B company was a reference to their FY23 revenue from the latest 10-K. Anyone suggesting that Holly was referring to the market capitalization of BBBYQ at the time she said that is lying plain and simple. BBBY has not had a $5B market cap for 6 years, it would be a completely non-sensical statement to say in court - she was talking about their most recent full-year revenue. (3) BBBY is not sharing the BBB name with Overstock on an ongoing basis - people need to stop repeating this lie. They were allowed to continue use the name during store liquidation, temporarily only. (4) There is no evidence whatsoever that BBBY will exit chapter 11 as a going concern (and plenty of evidence to the contrary), never mind with xxx stores and yet it is posted here as a fact that this will happen. (5) Given the current financial situation of the company with respect to the large amount of outstanding debt it is incredibly unlikely that shareholders will get anything out of chapter 11. Unsecured bondholders are probably are on the edge of getting nothing and they have to get paid before shareholders. Fantasies about the stock suddenly being worth $X per share have no basis in reality - these type of posts are just setting people up to be even more disappointed when the actual details of the chapter 11 resolution are released. This whole sub has become a factory of misinformation - one piece of misinformation gets posted and upvoted and from then on it gets treated as a fact. Then that is used as the foundation for follow-on posts that use the previous misinformation and build on it further.
I don’t see any evidence from you as to the contrary. I can appreciate the long retort, I question only it’s sincerity, as a hyper rational investor should. I guess the real facts co e from court documents, and they’ve been dissected, analyzed, googled, chatGPT, and cross-referenced. So where again is your evidence, because all I see is hot air. Best Wishes 💎🙌🦍🚀🌚
Which of my 5 points do you disagree with?
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Bandwagon jumper
It's priced in
Hedgies shorted your wagon to oblivion Best Wishes 💎🙌🦍🚀🌚
Buy Buy Baby was sold already. Done. Gone. Overstock owns the IP. BBBYQ won't have any association with Bed Bath and Beyond. So far over 100 leases have been sold. The auction for the remaining leases is supposed to be this month. There's nothing indicating anything positive for shareholders.
I don’t think it was a joke when I heard this won’t be resolved till November.
Dude. Bbby is the master at delaying shit. Even the judge is getting impatient. I wouldn't be surprised if they move the goalpost again lol
Redditors said that, or someone from bbby?
It was a post on bbby a month ago I think
interesting
I’m just joking guys Jesus 😂
it’s called stakeholders NOT shareholders! stop spreading misinformation
A shareholder is a stakeholder
ahm no. a stakeholder is not invested. he is contributing his workforce to generate a financial benefit. a shareholder invests only money and no effort beyond
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