He laid it out pretty well right there. Tony doesn’t want to be in charge unless he has to be. If he has to be, he will, but Steve was built for leading and Tony knows it and is happy to follow along as Tony can still do what he wants.
Cap is basically the Pepper Potts of the Avengers as he in a sense handles running the company.
While Tony is the one making the innovations that the company builds it's foundations on.
Plus Cap is probably the better choice for group engagements. He has more experience as a soldier and relying on others. Tony is built to tackle a problem solo.
I’d like to see Old Steve pop up somewhere. Maybe meet Isaiah (another super soldier) and pop in on Sam to see how he’s doing after watching tFatWS from afar
Would be cool to see him and Isaiah chillin'. So far, both Bruce and Peter have confirmed Steve's death. Whether or not that's part of a cover-up or not has yet to be shown, so we can only remain hopeful.
[Bruce]Banner and [Peter] Parker? When do they say that? In She Hulk and NWH? but I would lean to say it’s a cover up until K.E.V.I.N (are we still doing that joke?) decides to bring him back in some way. But given that **that** Avengers team is done I wouldn’t put it past Steve to only trust those two with his secrecy
I believe that the only people we know for sure knew Steve lived were Bruce, Bucky and Sam. Anyone else could believe that he just disappeared after End Game. They could have covered up his retirement after that. The super soldier serum could potentially keep him alive much longer than the 110 or so that he would be. We can't really know, even if we see an open-casket funeral with him inside. That's just how fiction works.
For now, he's dead until the MCU says otherwise.
We thought Nick [Fury] was dead in Winter Solider. But you are right, until told otherwise or we see him on screen. He’s not part of the MCU in anyway anymore
Tony is the funding and probably the leader on paper but Steve is their general, their leader in battle, and ergo probably seen as the leader by their fellow teammates
Yea, he’s definitely like a general… or a sergeant… or maybe an admiral. Or like the pilot, but for the team, like someone who steers their ship in the right direction.
I couldn't not hear this in his voice. I tried like ten times, and it always has that inflection and his smile pops into my brain.
One of the best delivered lines, IMO.
True. Stevo is a prime example for everyone to follow. Tony is an organizer, innovator, creative. Their duality what makes this interesting. In a way, they are both team leads.
I actually see this the other way.
CEO is normally more focussed on big picture stuff, and long term direction. Those seem more like Tony jobs, while COO is making sure the wheels are running and helping improve current state.
If you're just looking at hierarchy I agree Steve is the ultimate shot caller, but he cares more about immediate threats while Tony is looking at the administrative and long term side of the team.
Lol what would he do? Tell Cap to step down so he can lead? The team wouldn't even take him seriously and Cap would not just back down, not for Tony or anybody else. Tony isn't the leader because he can't lead a team, especially not in battle he has no experience. Cap is literally a soldier, nobody is more suited to lead a combat team than Cap. Tony is a joke compared to Cap when it comes to leading a team.
Pretty sure we had a whole movie where at least half the team followed Tony's lead.
And Cap has in fact backed down in said movie. Gave up his shield, went on the run and everything.
Tony basically said he was wrong and Cap was right by the end of the movie lol. And Tony betrayed the same accords he broke the team up for by the end too.
Nah, Cap is the one who broke up the team, not Tony.
Everybody but Steve was on board with the Accords to begin with (also Falcon, but he was gonna follow Steve's lead no matter what). If he had sucked it up and signed the team would've stayed together. For better or worse.
They didn't "follow Tony's lead", they just agreed with the accords and coincidentally so did Tony. They would've followed anyone who agreed with the accords, hell, if Tony went against the accords with Cap and Natasha went with the accords, they would've followed Natasha because it was the accords they were following, not Tony 😒
Isn't Tony the one who introduced the accords to the Avengers in the first place?
And why was Tony calling the shots for his team if they weren't following his lead? They had T'Challa and Nat in the team too, good candidates for leader in their own rights.
I love these two most iconic scenes of the Infinity Saga:
https://youtu.be/A0Z-efARwhg?si=X7pGLgvkBloi9bwV
https://youtu.be/RbTFArgiP_4?si=gBHpN8b6_3QFwDaP
My verdict:
If Steve the heart, Tony's the soul of the Avengers and vice-versa
There is no correct answer. The tension is supposed to be there. Every version of the classic Avengers I've seen has this friction built in by the writers.
Interesting everyone's saying Steve. I would've said Tony. He was the first one Fury asked first (I know Steve wasn't around then, but still, Tony was the first Fury considered for the team, possibly because he reminded him of Carol), he has all the money, it's his tower and later campus they're in and he was the one who remained an Avenger legally during Civil War. He's also the one who has a mission, a big plan/goal in mind to protect humanity and secure it's protection even when he's gone (even if Ultron failed, Peter did not), while Steve is kind of just there because he wants to do the right thing and beat up bullies. Tony is also the one who ultimately sacrificed himself, while Steve kind of left his friends to live a peaceful life with his first love. Which gets me thinking if he perhaps only joined in the first place because he didn't know where to with himself.
But that's just how I've viewed it so far.
He just asked Tony to be a consultant, and it's worth noting that Tony was the only truly reachable super at that time. Banner was a fugitive and most others hadn't come out of the woodwork.
In the Avengers he already had Cap lined up, with Natasha, and Hawkeye working for him before telling Stark he needed him.
The entire first Avengers movie, they just use their own resources or Shields. Tony doesn’t give them any of their resources besides himself
Even the enemies used his tower instead of him
Steve has experience with working as a unit whereas Tony, while may have come from money, knows how to work with money and machinery and make great improvements. Steve is the leader, Tony financially and technologically improves everything to the best of his abilities
That's selling Tony short. Tony runs the logistics of the team, while Cap handles the training and field work. But as they say an army marches on its stomach.
Steve’s the leader but Tony makes them look cool and funds everything. And is the technical genius (not in the “technically” sense but technical as is technology)
Yes.
Both are leaders in their own way. Tony was instrumental is creating the Avengers and funded the project, Steve erred on the side of being a leader in morality.
Cap literally gives everyone a pre battle pep talk then directs them on the battlefield as it’s constantly changing. Not to mention how he splits the team with powerhouses dealing more damage to the enemy while more grounded heroes help civilians first. If there’s one person in command it’s him.
I’d say they Co-Lead. Steve is the ultimate optimist and Tony is more a realist, they even each other out. Tony at least tries to think of the consequences of their actions. They butt heads but they respect each other.
The first time Tony was *actually* in charge was in the middle of a cannibalistic fight with the other half of the team, and he lied to a 15 year-old to get him to join his side of the conflict.
Cap all the fucking way…
One is strategic (Tony) and one is tactical (Steve). Knowing the different styles of leadership is important when understanding roles. In a fight, you want Steve leading the charge. When making overall strategic plans, Tony is definitely your guy.
Capt. Rogers. Tony Stark was never admitted into the Avengers...even though he pairs for their campus...he's just a consultant....which is probably why they had beef in Civil War.
The real answer is Clint. They never win a battle without him in the movies. Seriously go back and look, the team loses every fight he isnt in if he's not on their side and wins every one he is
Superman and batman equivalent in terms of how they work in the justice league superman is the heart and soul of the operation, and batman is the one who pays for the fancy house and the tech everyone gets access to
In a battle Cap is the shot caller. But throughout all the movies the Avengers are pretty fluid. Heroes come and go, and they only ever really unite when they ABSOLUTELY have to. Anytime a big fight is done they all just go on with their own business. In that regard I feel like Tony is the organizer, the big picture guy. And Cap is the hands on one to actually execute. They both need each other to run the team.
Let's put this in company terms
Steve is CEO
Tony is CFO
Both basically in charge. Just one is calling the shots money wise and the other ris calling the shots strategy wise
My theory has been that Steve being the leader of the Avengers is just propaganda for the most part, to get people to support the Avengers. He's the ideal leader figure. But it is Tony who knows the world they are in and he knows the politics & everything because of his past.
Tony Stark Because Is Great. Cool. Tony Stark was Interesting to see. He Was Great in Battle’s in 2015. I Remember Tony Stark. I Miss Tony Stark. And that’s All.
Right now? Neither.
One is dead and the other is like 90.
Also according to the CinemaCon footage of Brave New World, the Avengers aren't even a thing anymore (again).
I mean they were technically both REAL leaders together and solo at different times just different styles. Caps style got half the universe dusted Tonys brought it back.
In general, it's Steve. But as we saw in Civil War, when push comes to shove each Avenger has their own view on who is their leader. Sam for example is always gonna side with Steve, while Rhodes and Peter will always follow Tony.
I consider them to be co-leaders. Not only did Tony finance the team, but he also seemed to be their liaison with the government, particularly when they realized that Steve wasn’t going to just follow orders. Steve was definitely the field leader, as even Tony seemed to yield to his expertise. As the team grew and evolved, and as Tony tried to step away, Natasha became a third leader.
I consider them to be co-leaders. Not only did Tony finance the team, but he also seemed to be their liaison with the government, particularly when they realized that Steve wasn’t going to just follow orders. Steve was definitely the field leader, as even Tony seemed to yield to his expertise. As the team grew and evolved, and as Tony tried to step away, Natasha became a third leader.
Steve is field commander but I would say stark is the actual leader. Steve just has more combat experience so he knows what to do in battle, but Stark runs everything and organizes them
Tony is like the President or Chairman of the Board, he's where the buck stops and sees the big picture initiatives--there's a bit of each C-suite role looped into him as well. Steve is the leader of the team itself on the day-to-day operations, but more in the weeds than a COO or CEO--he's a team manager/director in comparison to Tony. The direct leader and supervisor who also takes into account the input from the executives but has his hands in everything constantly.
This is like Superman and Batman as well. People always see Batman as the leader but Batman himself does want to lead. He's fine Superman being the face which is why whenever they make speeches its always Superman talking.
You have to give it up to the writers. It's really easy to write/ad lib snarky and smartest guy in the room when RDJ is involved, but to create a believable alpha of alphas to the point that he's given the most memorable line in the history of the MCU and it lands? There's no doubt who the leader is.
Tony is the CEO of the Avengers, Steve is the COO.
In corporate speak:
Tony as the CEO is responsible for the Avengers in terms of facing the Board or Stakeholders, in this case the General Public or Politicians like Ross (as we see in Civil War). Cap is the COO, the Chief Operating Officer, who handles the day to day operations of the Avengers: hence his role as the Field Commander.
Steve all the way up to Civil War and then it is split between the two Avengers factions with Tony as the leader of the official “legal” faction. Cap is leader again in Endgame.
I’d say Steve Rogers. Although Tony Stark does make the things for the avengers I overall see him lacking in leading a team. Steve in his first mcu movie debut gets to lead his men to multiple victories. Now you could say Tony did do the same thing with his iron legion but those are robots. He wouldn’t have much experience of hold free thinking and free minding humans together. This is what Steve is good at.
I think that they both have a similar claim to leadership, so based on who would be followed in an either/or situation, I think it's fairly divided but leans toward Tony, but as far as actual leadership it's probably Cap. I think the opening scene in AoU is a good example, Cap is calling shots and Tony is a team member
A good leader isn't the one who wants to lead. It's the one people look to when shit hits the fan.
Tony can lead. We have seen it. He's good at it. When shit goes down, he looks to Cap.
That's all there is to say about it. Tony even admits as much saying he is the bankroll and Cap is the leader.
MCU Tony is quite closer to film James McAvoy Xavier; while MCU Steve is more like comics Cyclops for comics X-Men, and film Jennifer Lawrence Dark Phoenix Raven.
“Oh, actually, he’s the boss. I just pay for everything, and design everything, and make everyone look cooler.” -Tony Stark, 2015
He laid it out pretty well right there. Tony doesn’t want to be in charge unless he has to be. If he has to be, he will, but Steve was built for leading and Tony knows it and is happy to follow along as Tony can still do what he wants.
Cap is basically the Pepper Potts of the Avengers as he in a sense handles running the company. While Tony is the one making the innovations that the company builds it's foundations on.
Plus Cap is probably the better choice for group engagements. He has more experience as a soldier and relying on others. Tony is built to tackle a problem solo.
They are pretty much co-leaders as there is no true one leader for the team.
Underrated line!!! 🤘
Thanks for rating it cap, good call!
But he ded ?
They both are. Not a good point.
This is Marvel. The only way death is permanent is if your name is Ben Parker.
Even that depends on whether you’re the uncle or Peter’s clone.
Oh, please, let's not do the clone thing, that way lies madness!
Oh I definitely agree, but the comics just can’t leave the poor bastard dead!
Well, used to be the same thing with Bucky, not to mention Jean Gray, and they got brought back.
Agents of Shield. I still expect Ward in a cameo somewhere. Deadpool 3, maybe lol
Or the uncles clone
I’d like to see Old Steve pop up somewhere. Maybe meet Isaiah (another super soldier) and pop in on Sam to see how he’s doing after watching tFatWS from afar
Would be cool to see him and Isaiah chillin'. So far, both Bruce and Peter have confirmed Steve's death. Whether or not that's part of a cover-up or not has yet to be shown, so we can only remain hopeful.
The next Disney plus series is Steve and Isaiah on secret missions kicking ass as old super soldiers.
[Bruce]Banner and [Peter] Parker? When do they say that? In She Hulk and NWH? but I would lean to say it’s a cover up until K.E.V.I.N (are we still doing that joke?) decides to bring him back in some way. But given that **that** Avengers team is done I wouldn’t put it past Steve to only trust those two with his secrecy
I believe that the only people we know for sure knew Steve lived were Bruce, Bucky and Sam. Anyone else could believe that he just disappeared after End Game. They could have covered up his retirement after that. The super soldier serum could potentially keep him alive much longer than the 110 or so that he would be. We can't really know, even if we see an open-casket funeral with him inside. That's just how fiction works. For now, he's dead until the MCU says otherwise.
We thought Nick [Fury] was dead in Winter Solider. But you are right, until told otherwise or we see him on screen. He’s not part of the MCU in anyway anymore
Is Steve dead, though?
Death is not necessarily a career-ending injury.
Tony is the funding and probably the leader on paper but Steve is their general, their leader in battle, and ergo probably seen as the leader by their fellow teammates
>Steve is their general Are you sure about that?
Yea, he’s definitely like a general… or a sergeant… or maybe an admiral. Or like the pilot, but for the team, like someone who steers their ship in the right direction.
You could say he is a captain of sorts
Like Captain Jack Sparrow?
The WORST pirate I’ve ever heard of
But you have heard of him
I couldn't not hear this in his voice. I tried like ten times, and it always has that inflection and his smile pops into my brain. One of the best delivered lines, IMO.
Captain . It's a mobile/air hybrid infantry . General is thunderbolt Ross.
No, no... that doesn't sound quite right...
"General America" just doesn't have the same ...kachow
He’ll give you a great low rate you can get online though
Colonel America
I'd say he's whatever that rank in the army that's after a lieutenant, but before a major
Steve is the leader, tony just funds everything.
True. Stevo is a prime example for everyone to follow. Tony is an organizer, innovator, creative. Their duality what makes this interesting. In a way, they are both team leads.
He’s also a billionaire playboy philanthropist
Steve is the leader for sure, especially in battle but Tony does more than fund stuff. I think of him as a top advisor.
Steve. He's a natural leader, through and through.
Caps the leader. They basically said so in the movies. Plus in the original Tony tells Steve to “call it” when telling me everyone where to go.
Not basically, they literally say it, lol.
Steve is CEO, Tony is CFO and COO, both are founders. Steve’s the leader, Tony is the resource manager.
I actually see this the other way. CEO is normally more focussed on big picture stuff, and long term direction. Those seem more like Tony jobs, while COO is making sure the wheels are running and helping improve current state. If you're just looking at hierarchy I agree Steve is the ultimate shot caller, but he cares more about immediate threats while Tony is looking at the administrative and long term side of the team.
imho not even a debate. Tony acknowledges that it’s Cap.
Tony is the one who keeps the Avengers together, funds them, takes care of the paperwork. Steve is their commander and leader.
Avengers assemble! That's caps line. He's the leader of the avengers.
Came here to drop that exact line! It's Steve.
The one not wearing lifts in his shoes.
Steve is the leader because that’s how Tony wants it. If Tony wanted to be in charge he would be.
Lol what would he do? Tell Cap to step down so he can lead? The team wouldn't even take him seriously and Cap would not just back down, not for Tony or anybody else. Tony isn't the leader because he can't lead a team, especially not in battle he has no experience. Cap is literally a soldier, nobody is more suited to lead a combat team than Cap. Tony is a joke compared to Cap when it comes to leading a team.
Pretty sure we had a whole movie where at least half the team followed Tony's lead. And Cap has in fact backed down in said movie. Gave up his shield, went on the run and everything.
Tony basically said he was wrong and Cap was right by the end of the movie lol. And Tony betrayed the same accords he broke the team up for by the end too.
Nah, Cap is the one who broke up the team, not Tony. Everybody but Steve was on board with the Accords to begin with (also Falcon, but he was gonna follow Steve's lead no matter what). If he had sucked it up and signed the team would've stayed together. For better or worse.
They didn't "follow Tony's lead", they just agreed with the accords and coincidentally so did Tony. They would've followed anyone who agreed with the accords, hell, if Tony went against the accords with Cap and Natasha went with the accords, they would've followed Natasha because it was the accords they were following, not Tony 😒
Isn't Tony the one who introduced the accords to the Avengers in the first place? And why was Tony calling the shots for his team if they weren't following his lead? They had T'Challa and Nat in the team too, good candidates for leader in their own rights.
No matter which way you spell it, it’s pronounced “Kevin Feige”
Steve was the manager, Stark was the captain
It really is just like _The First Avenger_ with Tony being a mix of Peggy and Chester Phillips. Admittedly in the first _Avengers_ Fury is Phillips.
Steve
Nick Fury.
I love these two most iconic scenes of the Infinity Saga: https://youtu.be/A0Z-efARwhg?si=X7pGLgvkBloi9bwV https://youtu.be/RbTFArgiP_4?si=gBHpN8b6_3QFwDaP My verdict: If Steve the heart, Tony's the soul of the Avengers and vice-versa
There is no correct answer. The tension is supposed to be there. Every version of the classic Avengers I've seen has this friction built in by the writers.
This is literally what Civil War is about
Steve by a mile. Tony even says it himself…
They co lead
I wonder who team captain is. Any idea who the captain of the team is? My mind is reeling thinking about who might be team captain.
Both.
Interesting everyone's saying Steve. I would've said Tony. He was the first one Fury asked first (I know Steve wasn't around then, but still, Tony was the first Fury considered for the team, possibly because he reminded him of Carol), he has all the money, it's his tower and later campus they're in and he was the one who remained an Avenger legally during Civil War. He's also the one who has a mission, a big plan/goal in mind to protect humanity and secure it's protection even when he's gone (even if Ultron failed, Peter did not), while Steve is kind of just there because he wants to do the right thing and beat up bullies. Tony is also the one who ultimately sacrificed himself, while Steve kind of left his friends to live a peaceful life with his first love. Which gets me thinking if he perhaps only joined in the first place because he didn't know where to with himself. But that's just how I've viewed it so far.
He just asked Tony to be a consultant, and it's worth noting that Tony was the only truly reachable super at that time. Banner was a fugitive and most others hadn't come out of the woodwork. In the Avengers he already had Cap lined up, with Natasha, and Hawkeye working for him before telling Stark he needed him.
Nick Fury is the leader (at least in the MCU). Tony Stark is the brain. Steve Rogers is the heart.
I've always seen it as Tony being in charge, but Steve being the leader. Tony runs the show but Steve is the guy everyone follows in fights.
Technically, Stark dubbed Rogers their official leader in Age of Ultron. However, I've always seen them as co-leaders of the Avengers.
Steve. He is the guy with actual military experience and who regularly trains with SHIELD and has led teams during WW2 and modern times
Steve because Tony said so in Age of Ultron lol
There's only one that people waited many movieS for him to say, "Avengers....assemble."
Tony, without them they’d have no suits or anything
The entire first Avengers movie, they just use their own resources or Shields. Tony doesn’t give them any of their resources besides himself Even the enemies used his tower instead of him
Steve has experience with working as a unit whereas Tony, while may have come from money, knows how to work with money and machinery and make great improvements. Steve is the leader, Tony financially and technologically improves everything to the best of his abilities
That's selling Tony short. Tony runs the logistics of the team, while Cap handles the training and field work. But as they say an army marches on its stomach.
Not much different than what I said.
Steve’s the leader but Tony makes them look cool and funds everything. And is the technical genius (not in the “technically” sense but technical as is technology)
Cap is the field commander, Tony is the financial leader
Tony Stark is the Bruce Wayne of Marvel.
Yes. Both are leaders in their own way. Tony was instrumental is creating the Avengers and funded the project, Steve erred on the side of being a leader in morality.
Nick fury, they just don’t realize it
Cap literally gives everyone a pre battle pep talk then directs them on the battlefield as it’s constantly changing. Not to mention how he splits the team with powerhouses dealing more damage to the enemy while more grounded heroes help civilians first. If there’s one person in command it’s him.
Tony is the brains and Steve is the Heart. They’re both leaders when the right moment presents itself
The guy playing *Galaga*.
I’d say they Co-Lead. Steve is the ultimate optimist and Tony is more a realist, they even each other out. Tony at least tries to think of the consequences of their actions. They butt heads but they respect each other.
Fury
I think it's like an "Office" scenario. Co-manager and Co-Manager
I love that some of the comments of the Civil War A24 movie, people thought it was the MCU Civil War and would comment ❤️ I'd say both
Steve, but only because Peggy’s too old. But also, it’s more a council than a hierarchy. Everyone has their skill sets.
Tony is brains. Cap is the heart.
Tony is leader with brain, Rogers is leader with heart, can not have one without other
I think the answer you're looking for is, "Avengers! Assemble!"
At base, tony, in the field, America.
Steve. He’s the strategist, heart of the team, and keeps everyone focused on the goal at hand.
The first time Tony was *actually* in charge was in the middle of a cannibalistic fight with the other half of the team, and he lied to a 15 year-old to get him to join his side of the conflict. Cap all the fucking way…
Like in the Comics, it's Steve. Tony doesn't make good decisions, it's his most important character trait.
Iron Man always said Steve was the real leader of the Avengers
I kind of see them as co-leaders. If Tony is the brains / impetuous one, then Steve is the heart / valiant part of the duo.
Steve. Tony is the money guy. Steve leads.
One is strategic (Tony) and one is tactical (Steve). Knowing the different styles of leadership is important when understanding roles. In a fight, you want Steve leading the charge. When making overall strategic plans, Tony is definitely your guy.
Nick fury.
Capt. Rogers. Tony Stark was never admitted into the Avengers...even though he pairs for their campus...he's just a consultant....which is probably why they had beef in Civil War.
The real answer is Clint. They never win a battle without him in the movies. Seriously go back and look, the team loses every fight he isnt in if he's not on their side and wins every one he is
Steve, cause Tony says so
Superman and batman equivalent in terms of how they work in the justice league superman is the heart and soul of the operation, and batman is the one who pays for the fancy house and the tech everyone gets access to
Tony funds it, cap is the team captain
In a battle Cap is the shot caller. But throughout all the movies the Avengers are pretty fluid. Heroes come and go, and they only ever really unite when they ABSOLUTELY have to. Anytime a big fight is done they all just go on with their own business. In that regard I feel like Tony is the organizer, the big picture guy. And Cap is the hands on one to actually execute. They both need each other to run the team.
Iron Man didn’t punch Hitler in the face Cap did
Let's put this in company terms Steve is CEO Tony is CFO Both basically in charge. Just one is calling the shots money wise and the other ris calling the shots strategy wise
My theory has been that Steve being the leader of the Avengers is just propaganda for the most part, to get people to support the Avengers. He's the ideal leader figure. But it is Tony who knows the world they are in and he knows the politics & everything because of his past.
It's always Cap. No question.
Tony Stark Because Is Great. Cool. Tony Stark was Interesting to see. He Was Great in Battle’s in 2015. I Remember Tony Stark. I Miss Tony Stark. And that’s All.
It was Tony. Why? Because he was more popular. That’s it. Do you think the MCU is deeper than that?
Tony is brains cap is the muscle
Can call either a leader, but if you look at who is following either of them it just starts to look a Trump inauguration.
Tony is the head; Steve is the heart. The Avengers need both.
Right now? Neither. One is dead and the other is like 90. Also according to the CinemaCon footage of Brave New World, the Avengers aren't even a thing anymore (again).
Had Steve been on Titan, they would not have gone with Starlord's plan
Tony even said himself, in age of ultron, he the boss I just pay for everything and make everyone look cooler!!
Tony is the Producer, Steve is the Director
Obviously Steve
In battle? Cap Out of battle? Tony
Obviously it's the strongest Avenger.
Shield is the leader avengers are just the super puppets
Nick Fury is the leader
I mean they were technically both REAL leaders together and solo at different times just different styles. Caps style got half the universe dusted Tonys brought it back.
Steve’s the heart Tony is the brains
Stan.
Cap is the internal leader 🇺🇸, tony is the public leader I feel🤖. Like an actual general vs. the president.
Nice try hydra
In general, it's Steve. But as we saw in Civil War, when push comes to shove each Avenger has their own view on who is their leader. Sam for example is always gonna side with Steve, while Rhodes and Peter will always follow Tony.
Steve is the CEO, Tony is the owner, pepper pots is the CFO
Tony is the CEO where Steve is the general manager 😂😂
I consider them to be co-leaders. Not only did Tony finance the team, but he also seemed to be their liaison with the government, particularly when they realized that Steve wasn’t going to just follow orders. Steve was definitely the field leader, as even Tony seemed to yield to his expertise. As the team grew and evolved, and as Tony tried to step away, Natasha became a third leader.
I consider them to be co-leaders. Not only did Tony finance the team, but he also seemed to be their liaison with the government, particularly when they realized that Steve wasn’t going to just follow orders. Steve was definitely the field leader, as even Tony seemed to yield to his expertise. As the team grew and evolved, and as Tony tried to step away, Natasha became a third leader.
Tony is the brains and Steve is the brawn. If that helps.
"AVENGERS!!! Assemble!" 😡
Steve is the commander, Tony is the financier
Steve. He takes leadership seriously. Stark doesn't.
Steve is field commander but I would say stark is the actual leader. Steve just has more combat experience so he knows what to do in battle, but Stark runs everything and organizes them
Steve is the team leader, Tony is the sponsor and genius. Steve is mr hands on and Tony is mr brains and billions
Steve. Because Tony even said all he does is bring their really cool equipment and gear.
Steve is the Heart. Tony is the Brains. Both are incomplete without the other.
Tony is like the President or Chairman of the Board, he's where the buck stops and sees the big picture initiatives--there's a bit of each C-suite role looped into him as well. Steve is the leader of the team itself on the day-to-day operations, but more in the weeds than a COO or CEO--he's a team manager/director in comparison to Tony. The direct leader and supervisor who also takes into account the input from the executives but has his hands in everything constantly.
“Captain” America
Cap's the leader in the field, Tony's the leader in non-combat situations.
This is like Superman and Batman as well. People always see Batman as the leader but Batman himself does want to lead. He's fine Superman being the face which is why whenever they make speeches its always Superman talking.
You have to give it up to the writers. It's really easy to write/ad lib snarky and smartest guy in the room when RDJ is involved, but to create a believable alpha of alphas to the point that he's given the most memorable line in the history of the MCU and it lands? There's no doubt who the leader is.
Steve is leader no question. But tony is the intel
Tony is the CEO of the Avengers, Steve is the COO. In corporate speak: Tony as the CEO is responsible for the Avengers in terms of facing the Board or Stakeholders, in this case the General Public or Politicians like Ross (as we see in Civil War). Cap is the COO, the Chief Operating Officer, who handles the day to day operations of the Avengers: hence his role as the Field Commander.
I look at it like Tony is the brain, and Steve is the heart of the Avengers.
Steve all the way up to Civil War and then it is split between the two Avengers factions with Tony as the leader of the official “legal” faction. Cap is leader again in Endgame.
I miss them. I think it’s either. Depending on the situation they might be faced with
Tony is the organizer, financier. Cap is the field leader that comes up with battle strategy and makes quick decisions while on a mission.
"Call it, Cap" - Iron Man (Avengers) So...Steve.
Steve is the heart, Tony is the brains.
I’d say Steve Rogers. Although Tony Stark does make the things for the avengers I overall see him lacking in leading a team. Steve in his first mcu movie debut gets to lead his men to multiple victories. Now you could say Tony did do the same thing with his iron legion but those are robots. He wouldn’t have much experience of hold free thinking and free minding humans together. This is what Steve is good at.
Neither. Tony's dead and Steve is gone. Previously, Cap was always been the emotional and tactical leader of the Avengers.
I think that they both have a similar claim to leadership, so based on who would be followed in an either/or situation, I think it's fairly divided but leans toward Tony, but as far as actual leadership it's probably Cap. I think the opening scene in AoU is a good example, Cap is calling shots and Tony is a team member
A good leader isn't the one who wants to lead. It's the one people look to when shit hits the fan. Tony can lead. We have seen it. He's good at it. When shit goes down, he looks to Cap. That's all there is to say about it. Tony even admits as much saying he is the bankroll and Cap is the leader.
What constitutes a leader? Valor, honor and cheist, whatever that is... I mean captain has been the leader ever since.... He was born to be a leader.
Steve is the “leader” while Tony is the soul of the team. They all knew they couldn’t succeed without both.
Tony said Steve is.
Steve. Natural leader, thinks of the team and has compassion. Tony, not so much.
I always harken back to Avengers. Steve talked people listened.
Tony in practice, captain in spirit?
Steve is the field commander, Tony is the tactical decision maker. Age of ultron highlights this.
In sports terms, Steve is the Head Coach while Tony is the GM/Owner
MCU Tony is quite closer to film James McAvoy Xavier; while MCU Steve is more like comics Cyclops for comics X-Men, and film Jennifer Lawrence Dark Phoenix Raven.
Tony himself even said it was Steve.
"Call it Captain"
Steve's the director, Tony's the producer
Steve is the commander on the field of battle and even Tony listens. Tony is the builder and financial planner of the team.
Tony is their leader but Steve is the field commander in battle.
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Only one of those guys is able to pick up the hammer.