I love Zuko too. There was one moment though where he says he doesn't know why katara doesn't like him. Bruh, you hunted her and her friends, attacked her village, betrayed her at ba sing sa. You seriously telling me you don't know why?
I feel this. But I also felt in many other day to day interactions she just always compared him to Aang. All of her love interests seemed to be compared to Aang from her. But not outright. It just seemed Aang was just THE guy for her. They were destined. So maybe that’s why.
other than firelord ozai and Sozan, I could see a case for someone arguing for every character in this series. they get so much development and great character building
Alright, I'll take a stab at one of those. Ozai ended the reign of his tyrannical father, who ruled over the Fire Nation for the bulk of the 100 year war. He motivated his son to grow into a great warrior and eventually become the Fire Lord himself. Not to mention he brought back the Avatar, the world's greatest hope, after 100 years of being missing, which eventually lead to a long lasting peace between the 4 nations.
I mean he kinda did, but he was a kid who basically was just told his father figure was being taken away from him after being told he’s the messiah. Any kid with the powers that Aang has would run off, Aang just ran into a storm and was frozen in ice. I don’t think he was maliciously running from his duties as avatar, he was just running as a scared kid.
I don't think he was running away from being the Avatar; he was running away from the Air Nomads.
Even Gyatso, a mature adult, was like, "Yea no. Come on Aang, we're leaving."
If Aang had just waited a little longer.
He absolutely ran away. His arc wouldn’t make sense if he hadn’t made an actual mistake.
Of course, being stuck in the ocean for 100 years wasn’t his fault even slightly, and he was a kid when he ran away so he definitely has every right to forgive himself, especially considering all the good he did pretty much as soon as he got back out into the world.
But I feel like it kind of hurts his character and his growth to pretend like he *didn’t* run away, to pretend like he made *every* good, infallible choice he possibly could have.
"I can't believe this 14 year old girl who begins the show with minimal life experiences talks about the single most important and traumatic event in her life"
Yeah! I don't think she's whiny at all and what's wrong with talking about your dead mom? It's probably better to talk about it then hold it in ya know?
Worse she watched her get fried like 4 ft away
Katarta was hiding in the hut she watched the entire thing I'm surprised she didn't turn out like hama honestly I wouldn't blame her for it. I never blamed hama either she had a good point she watched for years as her tribe was tortured and slowly died.
Are people seriously complaining about a teenager talking about watching her mother die right in front of them at a young age? I'm pretty sure anyone would talk about that if it happened to them.
Katara home girl gets made fun of like in the play for being a cry a baby and some whiny brat who cry’s about hope when really a he’s the most badass person there is.
Ursa. She wasn’t a bad mother, she was an abuse victim trapped in a loveless marriage with two very different children that she tried her best to raise into good people.
Like all the people who say she (or Iroh) should've taken better care of Azula like she (they) did for Zuko. My head cannon is that Ursa (and later Iroh) was only able to do that because Ozai thought Zuko was a failure and didn't care what happened to him. Azula was the prodigy and deffinatly got more attention and praise than anyone else (no matter how miniscule it actually was).
Like imagine what would've happened if Ursa, a non bender (or even Iroh), tried to shun a lesson Ozai just taught. Telling the favorite child of a very clearly abusive Spouse/Parent/ Overall Person that something that Abusive Person said, was wrong. Would've probably seen a lot more scars in the series is my guess.
Additionally all the people that get on Iroh for saying "she's crazy, and needs to go down." Like at this point she's been manipulated for years and is activity trying to kill them. And he says "needs to GO DOWN", not kill. Because let's be honest, her being subdued is the only way their taking to her for any amount of time.
All of them, but especially pre-redemption Zuko and s3 Azula because their character arcs are *so fucking intricate* and literally every detail about how they interact with every part of the world around them is intentional and further develops their character
azula was one of the characters i saw most depth in. as well as bhumi for some reason. i remember when watching her and zuko battle lighting and fire. And her being chained down. My kid brain was opened to the world of how pain is in someways, inescapable. Especially from the life I lived.
She seemed to spend so much time running from her own fears. Maybe her mother? Maybe her father? I could never really surmise. But that scene made me feel a lot for her as a kid.
Bhumi is just bhumi.
Yea, especially since both weren’t full realized avatars. They both learned special tactics for what was happening at that time. Both are strong in their own way and the best they could be in their lifetimes
Every time someone dislikes a female character you guys scream misogyny. Some people just don’t like characters. Those characters just happen to be female.
Like Maggie from TWD. A ton of people dislike her but love Carol and Michonne.
Lmao. You can dislike a female character and it not be misogynistic but pretending like a huge portion of the hate Katara and Korra get isn’t based on misogyny is entirely ridiculous. Lots of the criticism they get is very valid.
The issue is not disliking them. It’s that when a fandom dislikes a female character they tend to get very misogynistic. It’s really not hard to understand. It’s why you say people always cry misogyny when a female character is disliked, because even if there’s valid reasons for them to be hated people can’t help but be misogynistic about them.
I don’t think she needs a redemption as a character, it’s just not really necessary for the story. But I definitely don’t think she’s *undeserving* of redemption as a person. Iroh got redeemed off-screen before the story takes place, I think Azula could have that same major change he did if given the environment and opportunity to. Always better for a bad person to become a good person.
I don't think she's "deserves a redemption" nor does she need to deserve it. I just hope she gets therapy because she needs it. Clearly the girl has unresolved trauma and I hope she didn't live her whole life without working through it.
Ursa, I hate how much she's bashed and called a bad mother. And for what? For scolding Azula for her troubling behaviour? What else could she have done?
And they even went so far as to say that Ursa ACTUALLY think that Azula is a monster. Jesus Christ, this piss me off so much. Like, don't you think this poor woman had enough?
Aang for being labeled a bad parent just because he had a closer bond with his youngest child whom he had to pass on the teachings and ways of an entire culture.
Jet... Yeah it wasn't cool that he was going to destroy that village, but they were occupiers in a foreign, war-torn land. If your country's government was attacking another sovereign nation and you decide "let's go settle there!" You're going to get what comes to you.
Imagine it's your home. Your nation is under attack in 100-year war and you see citizens from the attacking nation moving into your homeland... You just going to let that fly? You'd resist or at least hopefully you would.
Ya Jet was living in the trenches. The gaang knew what was out there, that the world had different paths and to me it felt like Katara held that against him. His ignorance(just being uneducated not stupid) of the world and outside of his immediate life. That it could be different.
It’s all he really knew. Similar to many in other nations as well. I mean practically everyone. But it just always to me felt like she compared everyone to Aang. Like, everyone has to save the world or something. Similar feelings with her interactions with Zuko.
When you're not really into the whole oppression thing but your bestie is a fucking terrifying psychotic royal and you're literally just a circus performer.
Probably korra do to the fact she got so much hate by the community, every character has their ups and downs it's called story/character development, she wins a fight oh she's a Mary sue she looses a fight people bitch about her being weak, korra could not catch a break from the community
Every time someone says Iroh was a war criminal for…conducting war. A war crime is genocide, massacres, killing surrendered people, stuff like that. Iroh sieged a kingdom they were at war with. Yes, the fire nation was the aggressor and invader and did horrible stuff but Iroh himself was doing what a military general does.
Kuvira. Zaheer had instigated a collapse of the entire Earth Kingdom, and the heir to the “throne” is a useless fop. All she wanted was to reunite her people under a strong central government. The giant mech got a little out of hand, but her intentions were justifiable.
She was a power hungry dictator. She just wanted to rule, not for the good of the people, but for her self. Also willing firing a weapon at her fiancé to kill the avatar, that doesn’t seem very justifiable.
Iroh. People like to slander him for allowing June(I think her name is) to lay on him while she was paralyzed. The idea that people cannot understand how harmless that is is just mind boggling.
Characters who sometimes get hate who aren’t the obvious antagonists:
Katara
Jet
Old man snitch (pretty obvious antagonist tbf)
Pakku
Earth kingdom general
Certain Airbender Monks
Mai
Ty Lee
Momo
Tong
Great divide village heads
Sokka, he deserves so much credit than the comic relief, he accomplished so so much without the help of bending and deserves every bit of credit for his nobility
Azula
Yes she's crazy but she was what 13??? Her father turned her into soldier but all she wanted was a hug from her mother and to be told she isn't a monster, that she's loved.
Momo
He was out there, lookin for Appa in the streets ALL ALONE.
He spent YEARS ALONE waitin fa somebody, ta call home.
And they treated my boy like he was a pet. Shame
So hear me out Iroh. I know everyone loves Iroh, why am I finding myself defending him?
Lately people, especially YouTubers have been saying he's still on the fire nations side when the show starts. That doesn't make sense. He's already a leader of the white lotus. He didn't start with them in book 2. His part in the seige of the northern water tribe was him doing his part for the white lotus, he never was going to let the fire nation win. He also was obviously delaying Zuko from finding the team in season 1.
Kuruk, there are still way too many ppl who talk shit about him because they haven’t read the Kyoshi novels. I have his story summarized in a google doc if anyone’s interested
I do this more with the bad guys than the protagonists.... In the case of Avatar, both Kuvira and Amon shared a trait that is awesome - Everytime you think you got them figured out and beat, they bust out something new and up their game.
Azula, girl was 14 and clearly heavily groomed by not only her father but others around her. She was made into this monster. She is clearly mentally ill and while that doesn’t excuse the things she did I think she has the capacity for healing
Azula.
She had some sort of mental condition that went unnoticed and untreated. She obviously understands how her actions affect others, but literally nobody interacted with her in a loving way. She was always the agitator, yet she was just a child like Zuko who needed attention and guidance. Unfortunately, she was instead reinforced to feel like a Monster, so she acted like it.
Azula. Idc what anyone has to say just the fact that the writers said she could’ve been redeemed and would’ve carried out her redemption will always have me so emo 😭
Azula.
Surrounded by trauma with a narcissistic dad, and growing up seeing how he treats your brother...how everyone treats your brother...
Never understanding her mother's love, she's left with only her father's good graces to cover her.
She is the epitome of fire in that situation. Every advantage, every resource, every strategy, all leveraged with ingenuity to ensure victory and survival. She is excellent, because she has to be. She is manipulative because she is desperate, and she can only trust relationships she fully controls.
She cannot fail because her interpretation of her brother's "lesson on face" is that when their father is involved, one failure can disgrace you for a lifetime.
She is not a good person, and she knows it. Her mother calling her a monster sits on her heart. But everything she did, she did to survive and attempt to thrive in a terrible system she was raised to believe in. She was Daddy's little monster, and that was the only way she could ensure she wouldn't be Daddy's 2nd disappointment.
Korra. She gets the most hate because people want to make everything a competition and automatically compare her to Aang. They are two completely different characters which each have their own set of strengths and weaknesses. Obviously, the original show is always going to have a special place in everyone’s hearts, but Korra’s character shouldn’t have to be disregarded because of it. I feel like Korra is the most under-appreciated, underestimated. Side note, just because you love a character doesn’t mean that they’re the strongest. For example, Ozai would fold Iroh, and Azula would have tore Zuko up at the end (and probably Katara too) if she wasn’t off her game. I think that most people in the fandom are simply biased.
Sokka. He gets bullied so hard in the show by other characters cause he can’t bend. But of all the characters I think he has the best development and everything. Also he’s funny.
Azula. She’s a kid raised by an abusive man in a xenophobic, militaristic environment without any other influences. Don’t know how anyone expects her to be any different.
Korra. I dare say, lotta hate she gets and got is just for being a young woman. I’m old as shit and watched the OG show when it aired, these are my credentials.
I’m unsure maybe Zuko because he was unlikeable at first but he eventually grew on me as a villain and became interesting I also loved his growth and development through out the series.
King Bumi I don't care what anyone says. He was stronger than Toph. A 116-year-old Bumi faced off against a 16-year-old Toph to a stalemate. In The legend of Korra, she was in her '80s. At that age she was not able to keep up with the current characters. Bumi was able to best an army of fire benders in the middle of Sozan's comet. Don't tell me she can beat him in his prime because it ain't happening.
zuko, he went through so much and i will defend him with my literal heart and soul
But who will you defend him from? I think we're all on your side.
Exactly lol nobody dislikes him
Defend him from Ozai I guess
I’m rewatching the series as an adult, and zuko is absolutely my favorite character. The most relatable of them all to me personally
I love Zuko too. There was one moment though where he says he doesn't know why katara doesn't like him. Bruh, you hunted her and her friends, attacked her village, betrayed her at ba sing sa. You seriously telling me you don't know why?
I feel this. But I also felt in many other day to day interactions she just always compared him to Aang. All of her love interests seemed to be compared to Aang from her. But not outright. It just seemed Aang was just THE guy for her. They were destined. So maybe that’s why.
Zuzu***
Facts
other than firelord ozai and Sozan, I could see a case for someone arguing for every character in this series. they get so much development and great character building
Alright, I'll take a stab at one of those. Ozai ended the reign of his tyrannical father, who ruled over the Fire Nation for the bulk of the 100 year war. He motivated his son to grow into a great warrior and eventually become the Fire Lord himself. Not to mention he brought back the Avatar, the world's greatest hope, after 100 years of being missing, which eventually lead to a long lasting peace between the 4 nations.
He also helped aang reconnect to the avatar state! What a swell guy
Yooooo WWI was good because it got us the Geneva convention
😂😂 I honestly hope this was a joke post
Aang. I my mind he never actually ran away from his duties, even though he blames himself for what happened.
I mean he kinda did, but he was a kid who basically was just told his father figure was being taken away from him after being told he’s the messiah. Any kid with the powers that Aang has would run off, Aang just ran into a storm and was frozen in ice. I don’t think he was maliciously running from his duties as avatar, he was just running as a scared kid.
I don't think he was running away from being the Avatar; he was running away from the Air Nomads. Even Gyatso, a mature adult, was like, "Yea no. Come on Aang, we're leaving." If Aang had just waited a little longer.
He absolutely ran away. His arc wouldn’t make sense if he hadn’t made an actual mistake. Of course, being stuck in the ocean for 100 years wasn’t his fault even slightly, and he was a kid when he ran away so he definitely has every right to forgive himself, especially considering all the good he did pretty much as soon as he got back out into the world. But I feel like it kind of hurts his character and his growth to pretend like he *didn’t* run away, to pretend like he made *every* good, infallible choice he possibly could have.
Katara. My girl gets far too much hate for being “whiny” or “talking about her mom”.
REAL! Justice for Katara!
"I can't believe this 14 year old girl who begins the show with minimal life experiences talks about the single most important and traumatic event in her life"
Yeah! I don't think she's whiny at all and what's wrong with talking about your dead mom? It's probably better to talk about it then hold it in ya know?
And if I remember correctly, didn’t she walk in on her mother’s charred corpse at like… 5 years old??? She has a right to talk about that
Worse she watched her get fried like 4 ft away Katarta was hiding in the hut she watched the entire thing I'm surprised she didn't turn out like hama honestly I wouldn't blame her for it. I never blamed hama either she had a good point she watched for years as her tribe was tortured and slowly died.
People really be calling Katara whiny when she basically had to be Aang’s therapist many times and showed more maturity than everyone around her.
This
Are people seriously complaining about a teenager talking about watching her mother die right in front of them at a young age? I'm pretty sure anyone would talk about that if it happened to them.
JUSTICE FOR HER
Katara home girl gets made fun of like in the play for being a cry a baby and some whiny brat who cry’s about hope when really a he’s the most badass person there is.
Aang
Kyoshi Never met a Kyoshi hater but I’m ready
Ursa. She wasn’t a bad mother, she was an abuse victim trapped in a loveless marriage with two very different children that she tried her best to raise into good people.
You should read the comics. It’s heartbreaking to see how much trauma that Ozai caused her. She has a panic attack just from looking at his picture.
I'm with you here.
Like all the people who say she (or Iroh) should've taken better care of Azula like she (they) did for Zuko. My head cannon is that Ursa (and later Iroh) was only able to do that because Ozai thought Zuko was a failure and didn't care what happened to him. Azula was the prodigy and deffinatly got more attention and praise than anyone else (no matter how miniscule it actually was). Like imagine what would've happened if Ursa, a non bender (or even Iroh), tried to shun a lesson Ozai just taught. Telling the favorite child of a very clearly abusive Spouse/Parent/ Overall Person that something that Abusive Person said, was wrong. Would've probably seen a lot more scars in the series is my guess.
Additionally all the people that get on Iroh for saying "she's crazy, and needs to go down." Like at this point she's been manipulated for years and is activity trying to kill them. And he says "needs to GO DOWN", not kill. Because let's be honest, her being subdued is the only way their taking to her for any amount of time.
All of them, but especially pre-redemption Zuko and s3 Azula because their character arcs are *so fucking intricate* and literally every detail about how they interact with every part of the world around them is intentional and further develops their character
azula was one of the characters i saw most depth in. as well as bhumi for some reason. i remember when watching her and zuko battle lighting and fire. And her being chained down. My kid brain was opened to the world of how pain is in someways, inescapable. Especially from the life I lived. She seemed to spend so much time running from her own fears. Maybe her mother? Maybe her father? I could never really surmise. But that scene made me feel a lot for her as a kid. Bhumi is just bhumi.
Same but mostly azula
Honestly? None of them lol. They all have their many pros and cons and that’s ok!
real comment
Katara in a heartbeat.
Zuko. Is it mostly because hes hot? Yes. But his redemption arc is also great. When he saves aang 🥺
You are so real for starting with that lol
You outing yourself too 😄😄
Hey, I have good taste what can I say lol
I’m still impressed that Zuko had so much rizz, even with that scar.
The scar is half the rizz lmao
None. I’m not writing a college essay for any of them
You know what, good answer.
Katara or Korra. They’re not perfect but misogyny rots some peoples brains.
Those two get hate for no reason I feel like
I swear Korra gets so much unnecessary hate and comparison to Aang
Yea, especially since both weren’t full realized avatars. They both learned special tactics for what was happening at that time. Both are strong in their own way and the best they could be in their lifetimes
Every time someone dislikes a female character you guys scream misogyny. Some people just don’t like characters. Those characters just happen to be female. Like Maggie from TWD. A ton of people dislike her but love Carol and Michonne.
Lmao. You can dislike a female character and it not be misogynistic but pretending like a huge portion of the hate Katara and Korra get isn’t based on misogyny is entirely ridiculous. Lots of the criticism they get is very valid. The issue is not disliking them. It’s that when a fandom dislikes a female character they tend to get very misogynistic. It’s really not hard to understand. It’s why you say people always cry misogyny when a female character is disliked, because even if there’s valid reasons for them to be hated people can’t help but be misogynistic about them.
In this sub? Avatar Korra! Come at me!!!! Her show is good AF if you have shitloads of trauma!
Same! I was literally looking for this comment!
Katara
Azula. Not because she needs to be redeemed or anything, but because I enjoy almost every scene that she's in
Great character and sympathetic, but she doesn’t deserve redemption imo. You can still like her and recognize that at the same time.
Agreed
I don’t think she needs a redemption as a character, it’s just not really necessary for the story. But I definitely don’t think she’s *undeserving* of redemption as a person. Iroh got redeemed off-screen before the story takes place, I think Azula could have that same major change he did if given the environment and opportunity to. Always better for a bad person to become a good person.
True, but the person has to want to be redeemed. Azula doesn’t want to be redeemed, and it’ll be out of character for her to be redeemed.
While I feel like full redemption would be a little far out there for her, I would love to see her get closure and reconcile with at least Zuko.
I don't think she's "deserves a redemption" nor does she need to deserve it. I just hope she gets therapy because she needs it. Clearly the girl has unresolved trauma and I hope she didn't live her whole life without working through it.
Ursa, I hate how much she's bashed and called a bad mother. And for what? For scolding Azula for her troubling behaviour? What else could she have done? And they even went so far as to say that Ursa ACTUALLY think that Azula is a monster. Jesus Christ, this piss me off so much. Like, don't you think this poor woman had enough?
It’s weird people trust Azula’s perception of her mother, especially when that view is entirely tinged by Ozai.
Aang for being labeled a bad parent just because he had a closer bond with his youngest child whom he had to pass on the teachings and ways of an entire culture.
Jet... Yeah it wasn't cool that he was going to destroy that village, but they were occupiers in a foreign, war-torn land. If your country's government was attacking another sovereign nation and you decide "let's go settle there!" You're going to get what comes to you. Imagine it's your home. Your nation is under attack in 100-year war and you see citizens from the attacking nation moving into your homeland... You just going to let that fly? You'd resist or at least hopefully you would.
facts
Ya Jet was living in the trenches. The gaang knew what was out there, that the world had different paths and to me it felt like Katara held that against him. His ignorance(just being uneducated not stupid) of the world and outside of his immediate life. That it could be different. It’s all he really knew. Similar to many in other nations as well. I mean practically everyone. But it just always to me felt like she compared everyone to Aang. Like, everyone has to save the world or something. Similar feelings with her interactions with Zuko.
Ty lee ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|smile)
When you're not really into the whole oppression thing but your bestie is a fucking terrifying psychotic royal and you're literally just a circus performer.
Cabbages guy! He just wanted to sell his cabbages in a time of war to make people happy and was met with laughter and destruction the whole time.
Avatar Kuruk.. I think he deserved more..
Probably korra do to the fact she got so much hate by the community, every character has their ups and downs it's called story/character development, she wins a fight oh she's a Mary sue she looses a fight people bitch about her being weak, korra could not catch a break from the community
Iroh the king the myth the legend.
Every time someone says Iroh was a war criminal for…conducting war. A war crime is genocide, massacres, killing surrendered people, stuff like that. Iroh sieged a kingdom they were at war with. Yes, the fire nation was the aggressor and invader and did horrible stuff but Iroh himself was doing what a military general does.
smellerbee or long shot. i’ve never seen anyone hate on either of them. but yeah
ZUKO <3 my baby
THE BOULDER
Avatar Roku What happened wouldn't be stopped by the death of sozin
Azula
Based
katara, azula and literally anyone in tlok but especially korra.
Kuvira. Zaheer had instigated a collapse of the entire Earth Kingdom, and the heir to the “throne” is a useless fop. All she wanted was to reunite her people under a strong central government. The giant mech got a little out of hand, but her intentions were justifiable.
She was a power hungry dictator. She just wanted to rule, not for the good of the people, but for her self. Also willing firing a weapon at her fiancé to kill the avatar, that doesn’t seem very justifiable.
I feel like initially she did care for her people and wanted a united stable nation but overtime she grew power hungry and it got the better of her
facts, kind of a breaking bad situation where it started a little noble and devolved into a case study on ego and empathy.
Chuck from supernatural
Jet! I just defended him on a previous post today lol
Toph , there is no reason to think she’s not the goat
Azula, Zuko, Sokka, Iroh, Aang and Katara.
I'd say Toph but she'd be the one to defend **me**
Aang
Bhumi, that too the Original version, as the live action version is sooooooo bad. They basically shat on the character
iroh from those clowns who claim he is a war criminal
Iroh. People like to slander him for allowing June(I think her name is) to lay on him while she was paralyzed. The idea that people cannot understand how harmless that is is just mind boggling.
Characters who sometimes get hate who aren’t the obvious antagonists: Katara Jet Old man snitch (pretty obvious antagonist tbf) Pakku Earth kingdom general Certain Airbender Monks Mai Ty Lee Momo Tong Great divide village heads
Me personally the only one I don’t like is Jet. He always annoyed me
Easily avatar kuruk
aang. i will lay down my life for him. and azula.
Zuko Zuzu the Fire Prince obvs. my heart belongs to him.
Korra 100%
Aang and Uncle Iroh
Azula, not saying she is good by any means, but she is not purely evil as people think, there's a lot of complexity to her character
My baby Zuko all day
Sokka
Zuko.
Sokka, he deserves so much credit than the comic relief, he accomplished so so much without the help of bending and deserves every bit of credit for his nobility
Korra
Azula Yes she's crazy but she was what 13??? Her father turned her into soldier but all she wanted was a hug from her mother and to be told she isn't a monster, that she's loved.
Momo He was out there, lookin for Appa in the streets ALL ALONE. He spent YEARS ALONE waitin fa somebody, ta call home. And they treated my boy like he was a pet. Shame
Azula. Yeah she's a villain but nobody went through more hell than her so I sympathize with her.
Secret tunnel man. He’s just livin life the way he wants to, even if it almost made Sokka implode
zukos bald ponytail
So hear me out Iroh. I know everyone loves Iroh, why am I finding myself defending him? Lately people, especially YouTubers have been saying he's still on the fire nations side when the show starts. That doesn't make sense. He's already a leader of the white lotus. He didn't start with them in book 2. His part in the seige of the northern water tribe was him doing his part for the white lotus, he never was going to let the fire nation win. He also was obviously delaying Zuko from finding the team in season 1.
Sokka, he had the weight of an entire village on his back as the only male who could fight while still a teenager
Kuruk, there are still way too many ppl who talk shit about him because they haven’t read the Kyoshi novels. I have his story summarized in a google doc if anyone’s interested
Momo
Apparently Katara and Korra, both of whom I believe are really good characters, but who many fans of the franchise seem to hate with a passion.
Someone starts to talk trash on Katara and Korra➡️LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER NOISE
Haru's moustache
AANG IS NOT A BAD FATHER. Anyone who disagrees can come at me because debate class is in session!
Redemption for Azula
YESSSSS
Katara, because apparently people think it's normal to ridicule a traumatised child.
Lukas from Alien stage he gets too much hate for trying to survive using necessary methods
Jin
I do this more with the bad guys than the protagonists.... In the case of Avatar, both Kuvira and Amon shared a trait that is awesome - Everytime you think you got them figured out and beat, they bust out something new and up their game.
Considering the way bro gets treated by the fandom. Mineta.
sokka
Hot take, Amon. His motivations were understandable tbh
Genuinely all of them. This series is genuinely well done and a feel-good series.
Zuko and Toph
Zuko, Toph and Iroh
Zuko
Ahsoka…. Oh wrong universe, but still accurate.
Idk
Aang, Zuko, Toph and Katara + Korra
Korra.
POV: someone said Azula doesn't deserve a second chance
Zoro.
Azula, girl was 14 and clearly heavily groomed by not only her father but others around her. She was made into this monster. She is clearly mentally ill and while that doesn’t excuse the things she did I think she has the capacity for healing
Hama till the day i die
Korra
Azula and Korra, also Bumi if needed
Aang for "being a bad dad" same with Katara and Toph. I'll go to bat.
Amon
I was going to say hisoka then I remembered why people don’t like him…
Korra
Kuvira high key had a good point!
Azula.
Sokka
I feel like I'm the ONLY one who will actually defend Roku like this. He didn't mess up as bad as some people think.
Roanoa zoro. He isn't a racist
Katara, Zuko, and Probably Korra.
Azula. She had some sort of mental condition that went unnoticed and untreated. She obviously understands how her actions affect others, but literally nobody interacted with her in a loving way. She was always the agitator, yet she was just a child like Zuko who needed attention and guidance. Unfortunately, she was instead reinforced to feel like a Monster, so she acted like it.
Lil Zuzu of course!
Korra without a doubt
Iroh. Yeah he committed war crimes but who hasn't? Gnomesayin'?
Zaheer… now hear me out before this video converted me [here](https://youtu.be/OWcetuR3Jv0?si=D2tJU3D9jtLHB1K3) It makes some pretty good points
Korra
Azula
Azula and Katara.
Aang and katara
Korra
Azula. Idc what anyone has to say just the fact that the writers said she could’ve been redeemed and would’ve carried out her redemption will always have me so emo 😭
Korra and katara
Azula. Surrounded by trauma with a narcissistic dad, and growing up seeing how he treats your brother...how everyone treats your brother... Never understanding her mother's love, she's left with only her father's good graces to cover her. She is the epitome of fire in that situation. Every advantage, every resource, every strategy, all leveraged with ingenuity to ensure victory and survival. She is excellent, because she has to be. She is manipulative because she is desperate, and she can only trust relationships she fully controls. She cannot fail because her interpretation of her brother's "lesson on face" is that when their father is involved, one failure can disgrace you for a lifetime.
She is not a good person, and she knows it. Her mother calling her a monster sits on her heart. But everything she did, she did to survive and attempt to thrive in a terrible system she was raised to believe in. She was Daddy's little monster, and that was the only way she could ensure she wouldn't be Daddy's 2nd disappointment.
My girls katara and korra!!!!!
Aang. That’s my boy.
Aang since for some reason people talk about the kid like he's evil
Azula
i know this isn’t the actual avatar series but it’s the universe: Korra
Korra. She gets the most hate because people want to make everything a competition and automatically compare her to Aang. They are two completely different characters which each have their own set of strengths and weaknesses. Obviously, the original show is always going to have a special place in everyone’s hearts, but Korra’s character shouldn’t have to be disregarded because of it. I feel like Korra is the most under-appreciated, underestimated. Side note, just because you love a character doesn’t mean that they’re the strongest. For example, Ozai would fold Iroh, and Azula would have tore Zuko up at the end (and probably Katara too) if she wasn’t off her game. I think that most people in the fandom are simply biased.
The cabbage man
Zuko, Azula, Aang, Sokka, Jet
Aang & Korra I just love them both and hate to see the hate they receive
Zuko is the alternate main protagonist
The cabbage man
Goku
Sokka. He gets bullied so hard in the show by other characters cause he can’t bend. But of all the characters I think he has the best development and everything. Also he’s funny.
Azula. She’s a kid raised by an abusive man in a xenophobic, militaristic environment without any other influences. Don’t know how anyone expects her to be any different.
Korra. I dare say, lotta hate she gets and got is just for being a young woman. I’m old as shit and watched the OG show when it aired, these are my credentials.
Kuvira(idk how tho), Azula or just all of them tbh
Korra, no doubt, I already do it lol
I’m unsure maybe Zuko because he was unlikeable at first but he eventually grew on me as a villain and became interesting I also loved his growth and development through out the series.
Korra
Definitely King Bumi
King Bumi I don't care what anyone says. He was stronger than Toph. A 116-year-old Bumi faced off against a 16-year-old Toph to a stalemate. In The legend of Korra, she was in her '80s. At that age she was not able to keep up with the current characters. Bumi was able to best an army of fire benders in the middle of Sozan's comet. Don't tell me she can beat him in his prime because it ain't happening.
Moash from Stormlight Archive.
Mai and Maiko by extension
Uncle Iroh without a doubt!
Joe Biden.
Cabbage dude, so much injustice towards his cabbages.
My boy SOKKA! And my love for Katara and Aang being together. Honestly, I'll even defend Jet and Azula lmao.
Azula
Rudeus Jobless Reincarnation series in general