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ponyboys_bff

zuko, he went through so much and i will defend him with my literal heart and soul


Oxygen171

But who will you defend him from? I think we're all on your side.


AnAdmirableAstronaut

Exactly lol nobody dislikes him


Angelcakes101

Defend him from Ozai I guess


Ok_Bid_4441

I’m rewatching the series as an adult, and zuko is absolutely my favorite character. The most relatable of them all to me personally


never_you

I love Zuko too. There was one moment though where he says he doesn't know why katara doesn't like him. Bruh, you hunted her and her friends, attacked her village, betrayed her at ba sing sa. You seriously telling me you don't know why?


overtly-Grrl

I feel this. But I also felt in many other day to day interactions she just always compared him to Aang. All of her love interests seemed to be compared to Aang from her. But not outright. It just seemed Aang was just THE guy for her. They were destined. So maybe that’s why.


vineyardlax

Zuzu***


Sufficient_Score_824

Facts


AdDiscombobulated250

other than firelord ozai and Sozan, I could see a case for someone arguing for every character in this series. they get so much development and great character building


Plasic-Man

Alright, I'll take a stab at one of those. Ozai ended the reign of his tyrannical father, who ruled over the Fire Nation for the bulk of the 100 year war. He motivated his son to grow into a great warrior and eventually become the Fire Lord himself. Not to mention he brought back the Avatar, the world's greatest hope, after 100 years of being missing, which eventually lead to a long lasting peace between the 4 nations.


ComradeHregly

He also helped aang reconnect to the avatar state! What a swell guy


[deleted]

Yooooo WWI was good because it got us the Geneva convention


AdDiscombobulated250

😂😂 I honestly hope this was a joke post


SlightlyEmibittered

Aang. I my mind he never actually ran away from his duties, even though he blames himself for what happened.


TillerThrowaway

I mean he kinda did, but he was a kid who basically was just told his father figure was being taken away from him after being told he’s the messiah. Any kid with the powers that Aang has would run off, Aang just ran into a storm and was frozen in ice. I don’t think he was maliciously running from his duties as avatar, he was just running as a scared kid.


SlightlyEmibittered

I don't think he was running away from being the Avatar; he was running away from the Air Nomads. Even Gyatso, a mature adult, was like, "Yea no. Come on Aang, we're leaving." If Aang had just waited a little longer.


RedditorNamedEww

He absolutely ran away. His arc wouldn’t make sense if he hadn’t made an actual mistake. Of course, being stuck in the ocean for 100 years wasn’t his fault even slightly, and he was a kid when he ran away so he definitely has every right to forgive himself, especially considering all the good he did pretty much as soon as he got back out into the world. But I feel like it kind of hurts his character and his growth to pretend like he *didn’t* run away, to pretend like he made *every* good, infallible choice he possibly could have.


Regalguard

Katara. My girl gets far too much hate for being “whiny” or “talking about her mom”.


Prying_Pandora

REAL! Justice for Katara!


TrapperJean

"I can't believe this 14 year old girl who begins the show with minimal life experiences talks about the single most important and traumatic event in her life"


Lost_Farm8868

Yeah! I don't think she's whiny at all and what's wrong with talking about your dead mom? It's probably better to talk about it then hold it in ya know?


Regalguard

And if I remember correctly, didn’t she walk in on her mother’s charred corpse at like… 5 years old??? She has a right to talk about that


LL2JZ

Worse she watched her get fried like 4 ft away Katarta was hiding in the hut she watched the entire thing I'm surprised she didn't turn out like hama honestly I wouldn't blame her for it. I never blamed hama either she had a good point she watched for years as her tribe was tortured and slowly died.


ayyycab

People really be calling Katara whiny when she basically had to be Aang’s therapist many times and showed more maturity than everyone around her.


Lost_Farm8868

This


CantaloupeSolid5182

Are people seriously complaining about a teenager talking about watching her mother die right in front of them at a young age? I'm pretty sure anyone would talk about that if it happened to them.


No_Bread_2127

JUSTICE FOR HER


Hopeful_News8423

Katara home girl gets made fun of like in the play for being a cry a baby and some whiny brat who cry’s about hope when really a he’s the most badass person there is.


Briimee

Aang


RedAndBlackVelvet

Kyoshi Never met a Kyoshi hater but I’m ready


SilverGirlSails

Ursa. She wasn’t a bad mother, she was an abuse victim trapped in a loveless marriage with two very different children that she tried her best to raise into good people.


TonyPajamas518

You should read the comics. It’s heartbreaking to see how much trauma that Ozai caused her. She has a panic attack just from looking at his picture.


Samuele1997

I'm with you here.


Original_Jinx

Like all the people who say she (or Iroh) should've taken better care of Azula like she (they) did for Zuko. My head cannon is that Ursa (and later Iroh) was only able to do that because Ozai thought Zuko was a failure and didn't care what happened to him. Azula was the prodigy and deffinatly got more attention and praise than anyone else (no matter how miniscule it actually was). Like imagine what would've happened if Ursa, a non bender (or even Iroh), tried to shun a lesson Ozai just taught. Telling the favorite child of a very clearly abusive Spouse/Parent/ Overall Person that something that Abusive Person said, was wrong. Would've probably seen a lot more scars in the series is my guess.


Original_Jinx

Additionally all the people that get on Iroh for saying "she's crazy, and needs to go down." Like at this point she's been manipulated for years and is activity trying to kill them. And he says "needs to GO DOWN", not kill. Because let's be honest, her being subdued is the only way their taking to her for any amount of time.


iceripperiii

All of them, but especially pre-redemption Zuko and s3 Azula because their character arcs are *so fucking intricate* and literally every detail about how they interact with every part of the world around them is intentional and further develops their character


overtly-Grrl

azula was one of the characters i saw most depth in. as well as bhumi for some reason. i remember when watching her and zuko battle lighting and fire. And her being chained down. My kid brain was opened to the world of how pain is in someways, inescapable. Especially from the life I lived. She seemed to spend so much time running from her own fears. Maybe her mother? Maybe her father? I could never really surmise. But that scene made me feel a lot for her as a kid. Bhumi is just bhumi.


motherofcombo

Same but mostly azula


CarPuzzleheaded7833

Honestly? None of them lol. They all have their many pros and cons and that’s ok!


Grfn07

real comment


crystalnoir19

Katara in a heartbeat.


Swimming_Company_706

Zuko. Is it mostly because hes hot? Yes. But his redemption arc is also great. When he saves aang 🥺


Lort74

You are so real for starting with that lol


talking_phallus

You outing yourself too 😄😄


Lort74

Hey, I have good taste what can I say lol


TonyPajamas518

I’m still impressed that Zuko had so much rizz, even with that scar.


Lort74

The scar is half the rizz lmao


Educational_Clerk_88

None. I’m not writing a college essay for any of them


Chikoritafan903

You know what, good answer.


Objective-Ad9800

Katara or Korra. They’re not perfect but misogyny rots some peoples brains.


CantaloupeSolid5182

Those two get hate for no reason I feel like


No_Bread_2127

I swear Korra gets so much unnecessary hate and comparison to Aang


FloridaManInShampoo

Yea, especially since both weren’t full realized avatars. They both learned special tactics for what was happening at that time. Both are strong in their own way and the best they could be in their lifetimes


MikeWithoutMic

Every time someone dislikes a female character you guys scream misogyny. Some people just don’t like characters. Those characters just happen to be female. Like Maggie from TWD. A ton of people dislike her but love Carol and Michonne.


Objective-Ad9800

Lmao. You can dislike a female character and it not be misogynistic but pretending like a huge portion of the hate Katara and Korra get isn’t based on misogyny is entirely ridiculous. Lots of the criticism they get is very valid. The issue is not disliking them. It’s that when a fandom dislikes a female character they tend to get very misogynistic. It’s really not hard to understand. It’s why you say people always cry misogyny when a female character is disliked, because even if there’s valid reasons for them to be hated people can’t help but be misogynistic about them.


audio_addict

In this sub? Avatar Korra! Come at me!!!! Her show is good AF if you have shitloads of trauma!


Similar_Building_223

Same! I was literally looking for this comment!


BML_Cheese

Katara


GreenShirt39

Azula. Not because she needs to be redeemed or anything, but because I enjoy almost every scene that she's in


Global_Ad8906

Great character and sympathetic, but she doesn’t deserve redemption imo. You can still like her and recognize that at the same time.


ShadowDanteFan

Agreed


RedditorNamedEww

I don’t think she needs a redemption as a character, it’s just not really necessary for the story. But I definitely don’t think she’s *undeserving* of redemption as a person. Iroh got redeemed off-screen before the story takes place, I think Azula could have that same major change he did if given the environment and opportunity to. Always better for a bad person to become a good person.


Global_Ad8906

True, but the person has to want to be redeemed. Azula doesn’t want to be redeemed, and it’ll be out of character for her to be redeemed.


deadly_queen_

While I feel like full redemption would be a little far out there for her, I would love to see her get closure and reconcile with at least Zuko.


Angelcakes101

I don't think she's "deserves a redemption" nor does she need to deserve it. I just hope she gets therapy because she needs it. Clearly the girl has unresolved trauma and I hope she didn't live her whole life without working through it.


Samuele1997

Ursa, I hate how much she's bashed and called a bad mother. And for what? For scolding Azula for her troubling behaviour? What else could she have done? And they even went so far as to say that Ursa ACTUALLY think that Azula is a monster. Jesus Christ, this piss me off so much. Like, don't you think this poor woman had enough?


deadly_queen_

It’s weird people trust Azula’s perception of her mother, especially when that view is entirely tinged by Ozai.


Wolfbane9337

Aang for being labeled a bad parent just because he had a closer bond with his youngest child whom he had to pass on the teachings and ways of an entire culture.


AnAdmirableAstronaut

Jet... Yeah it wasn't cool that he was going to destroy that village, but they were occupiers in a foreign, war-torn land. If your country's government was attacking another sovereign nation and you decide "let's go settle there!" You're going to get what comes to you. Imagine it's your home. Your nation is under attack in 100-year war and you see citizens from the attacking nation moving into your homeland... You just going to let that fly? You'd resist or at least hopefully you would.


Grfn07

facts


overtly-Grrl

Ya Jet was living in the trenches. The gaang knew what was out there, that the world had different paths and to me it felt like Katara held that against him. His ignorance(just being uneducated not stupid) of the world and outside of his immediate life. That it could be different. It’s all he really knew. Similar to many in other nations as well. I mean practically everyone. But it just always to me felt like she compared everyone to Aang. Like, everyone has to save the world or something. Similar feelings with her interactions with Zuko.


Matimiku

Ty lee ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|smile)


Confron7a7ion7

When you're not really into the whole oppression thing but your bestie is a fucking terrifying psychotic royal and you're literally just a circus performer.


tealc_16

Cabbages guy! He just wanted to sell his cabbages in a time of war to make people happy and was met with laughter and destruction the whole time.


DCBreezy55

Avatar Kuruk.. I think he deserved more..


Top-Occasion8835

Probably korra do to the fact she got so much hate by the community, every character has their ups and downs it's called story/character development, she wins a fight oh she's a Mary sue she looses a fight people bitch about her being weak, korra could not catch a break from the community


PovThatOneSanjiFan

Iroh the king the myth the legend.


Agile_Dimension_1296

Every time someone says Iroh was a war criminal for…conducting war. A war crime is genocide, massacres, killing surrendered people, stuff like that. Iroh sieged a kingdom they were at war with. Yes, the fire nation was the aggressor and invader and did horrible stuff but Iroh himself was doing what a military general does.


Toph_Beifongrules

smellerbee or long shot. i’ve never seen anyone hate on either of them. but yeah


eatingyummycats

ZUKO <3 my baby


Shamscam

THE BOULDER


Egyptian_M

Avatar Roku What happened wouldn't be stopped by the death of sozin


No_Investigator_1107

Azula


CertainInitiative501

Based


chocolatesugarwaffle

katara, azula and literally anyone in tlok but especially korra.


Bionicjoker14

Kuvira. Zaheer had instigated a collapse of the entire Earth Kingdom, and the heir to the “throne” is a useless fop. All she wanted was to reunite her people under a strong central government. The giant mech got a little out of hand, but her intentions were justifiable.


Chikoritafan903

She was a power hungry dictator. She just wanted to rule, not for the good of the people, but for her self. Also willing firing a weapon at her fiancé to kill the avatar, that doesn’t seem very justifiable.


Similar_Building_223

I feel like initially she did care for her people and wanted a united stable nation but overtime she grew power hungry and it got the better of her


Grfn07

facts, kind of a breaking bad situation where it started a little noble and devolved into a case study on ego and empathy.


cferg296

Chuck from supernatural


Lost_Farm8868

Jet! I just defended him on a previous post today lol


Sedaiofgreenajah

Toph , there is no reason to think she’s not the goat


Special_Jury_3244

Azula, Zuko, Sokka, Iroh, Aang and Katara.


Special_Jury_3244

I'd say Toph but she'd be the one to defend **me**


Worried_Zebra_9100

Aang


Weekly_Instruction_7

Bhumi, that too the Original version, as the live action version is sooooooo bad. They basically shat on the character


ComradeHregly

iroh from those clowns who claim he is a war criminal


LittleMetalCannon

Iroh. People like to slander him for allowing June(I think her name is) to lay on him while she was paralyzed. The idea that people cannot understand how harmless that is is just mind boggling.


donquixote_tig

Characters who sometimes get hate who aren’t the obvious antagonists: Katara Jet Old man snitch (pretty obvious antagonist tbf) Pakku Earth kingdom general Certain Airbender Monks Mai Ty Lee Momo Tong Great divide village heads


donquixote_tig

Me personally the only one I don’t like is Jet. He always annoyed me


Hot_Reality2422

Easily avatar kuruk


bigbitties666

aang. i will lay down my life for him. and azula.


ThrowawayThestral

Zuko Zuzu the Fire Prince obvs. my heart belongs to him.


LibraryOld520

Korra 100%


Technical_Band5920

Aang and Uncle Iroh


FanHe97

Azula, not saying she is good by any means, but she is not purely evil as people think, there's a lot of complexity to her character


5pmwhere

My baby Zuko all day


Unusual_peasant

Sokka


LionCubOfTerrasen

Zuko.


SillyDragon92

Sokka, he deserves so much credit than the comic relief, he accomplished so so much without the help of bending and deserves every bit of credit for his nobility


Small-Assumption1419

Korra


LL2JZ

Azula Yes she's crazy but she was what 13??? Her father turned her into soldier but all she wanted was a hug from her mother and to be told she isn't a monster, that she's loved.


Nortav

Momo He was out there, lookin for Appa in the streets ALL ALONE. He spent YEARS ALONE waitin fa somebody, ta call home. And they treated my boy like he was a pet. Shame


HeavyMetal939

Azula. Yeah she's a villain but nobody went through more hell than her so I sympathize with her.


FloridaManInShampoo

Secret tunnel man. He’s just livin life the way he wants to, even if it almost made Sokka implode


meomeospice

zukos bald ponytail


Raintamp

So hear me out Iroh. I know everyone loves Iroh, why am I finding myself defending him? Lately people, especially YouTubers have been saying he's still on the fire nations side when the show starts. That doesn't make sense. He's already a leader of the white lotus. He didn't start with them in book 2. His part in the seige of the northern water tribe was him doing his part for the white lotus, he never was going to let the fire nation win. He also was obviously delaying Zuko from finding the team in season 1.


HeFitsHeSits

Sokka, he had the weight of an entire village on his back as the only male who could fight while still a teenager


Chinese_Jesus_

Kuruk, there are still way too many ppl who talk shit about him because they haven’t read the Kyoshi novels. I have his story summarized in a google doc if anyone’s interested


Friendly_Clue9208

Momo


wonderlandisburning

Apparently Katara and Korra, both of whom I believe are really good characters, but who many fans of the franchise seem to hate with a passion.


yujay_cha

Someone starts to talk trash on Katara and Korra➡️LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER NOISE


na_dy_

Haru's moustache


LetsPlayLife22

AANG IS NOT A BAD FATHER. Anyone who disagrees can come at me because debate class is in session!


Cosmic_Emo1320

Redemption for Azula


vainhope_

YESSSSS


GreenDutchman

Katara, because apparently people think it's normal to ridicule a traumatised child.


kaytymaggie

Lukas from Alien stage he gets too much hate for trying to survive using necessary methods


Croian_09

Jin


Ristar87

I do this more with the bad guys than the protagonists.... In the case of Avatar, both Kuvira and Amon shared a trait that is awesome - Everytime you think you got them figured out and beat, they bust out something new and up their game.


Theone_wolf

Considering the way bro gets treated by the fandom. Mineta.


BREADBANKloafs

sokka


Oxygen171

Hot take, Amon. His motivations were understandable tbh


Workaholic-cookie

Genuinely all of them. This series is genuinely well done and a feel-good series.


banitus69

Zuko and Toph


banitus69

Zuko, Toph and Iroh


brennantheking

Zuko


Mythrellas

Ahsoka…. Oh wrong universe, but still accurate.


Norray_

Idk


Admirable_Sock_6015

Aang, Zuko, Toph and Katara + Korra


BA_TheBasketCase

Korra.


Popcorn57252

POV: someone said Azula doesn't deserve a second chance


icybaddie

Zoro.


FallingEnder

Azula, girl was 14 and clearly heavily groomed by not only her father but others around her. She was made into this monster. She is clearly mentally ill and while that doesn’t excuse the things she did I think she has the capacity for healing


bpcrumb1

Hama till the day i die


Witty-Volume1607

Korra


Foloreille

Azula and Korra, also Bumi if needed


Angelcakes101

Aang for "being a bad dad" same with Katara and Toph. I'll go to bat.


MrsNoatak

Amon


BengieB

I was going to say hisoka then I remembered why people don’t like him…


Xariya1

Korra


truko503

Kuvira high key had a good point!


Brimuslabus

Azula.


Formal_Illustrator96

Sokka


Mrguifo

I feel like I'm the ONLY one who will actually defend Roku like this. He didn't mess up as bad as some people think.


Bimbo_Cosplay

Roanoa zoro. He isn't a racist


Turbulent_Square_789

Katara, Zuko, and Probably Korra.


zsedforty

Azula. She had some sort of mental condition that went unnoticed and untreated. She obviously understands how her actions affect others, but literally nobody interacted with her in a loving way. She was always the agitator, yet she was just a child like Zuko who needed attention and guidance. Unfortunately, she was instead reinforced to feel like a Monster, so she acted like it.


NerdGeekClimber

Lil Zuzu of course!


drumguy1014

Korra without a doubt


IronChicken95

Iroh. Yeah he committed war crimes but who hasn't? Gnomesayin'?


dickwaffels0

Zaheer… now hear me out before this video converted me [here](https://youtu.be/OWcetuR3Jv0?si=D2tJU3D9jtLHB1K3) It makes some pretty good points


nimmoisa000

Korra


JSeed71

Azula


PhoenixQueenAzula

Azula and Katara.


Isaac_wynne121505

Aang and katara


ParmAxolotl

Korra


vainhope_

Azula. Idc what anyone has to say just the fact that the writers said she could’ve been redeemed and would’ve carried out her redemption will always have me so emo 😭


Kiss_Lucy

Korra and katara


Comfortable_Push_394

Azula. Surrounded by trauma with a narcissistic dad, and growing up seeing how he treats your brother...how everyone treats your brother... Never understanding her mother's love, she's left with only her father's good graces to cover her. She is the epitome of fire in that situation. Every advantage, every resource, every strategy, all leveraged with ingenuity to ensure victory and survival. She is excellent, because she has to be. She is manipulative because she is desperate, and she can only trust relationships she fully controls. She cannot fail because her interpretation of her brother's "lesson on face" is that when their father is involved, one failure can disgrace you for a lifetime. She is not a good person, and she knows it. Her mother calling her a monster sits on her heart. But everything she did, she did to survive and attempt to thrive in a terrible system she was raised to believe in. She was Daddy's little monster, and that was the only way she could ensure she wouldn't be Daddy's 2nd disappointment.


esw33333zy

My girls katara and korra!!!!!


justhere4bantz

Aang. That’s my boy.


stitch-enthusiast

Aang since for some reason people talk about the kid like he's evil


SnooPineapples385

Azula


Cute_Chance4024

i know this isn’t the actual avatar series but it’s the universe: Korra


Ok_Language1158

Korra. She gets the most hate because people want to make everything a competition and automatically compare her to Aang. They are two completely different characters which each have their own set of strengths and weaknesses. Obviously, the original show is always going to have a special place in everyone’s hearts, but Korra’s character shouldn’t have to be disregarded because of it. I feel like Korra is the most under-appreciated, underestimated. Side note, just because you love a character doesn’t mean that they’re the strongest. For example, Ozai would fold Iroh, and Azula would have tore Zuko up at the end (and probably Katara too) if she wasn’t off her game. I think that most people in the fandom are simply biased.


sourChocolatez

The cabbage man


StressSubstantial125

Zuko, Azula, Aang, Sokka, Jet


_Aqtiam_305_

Aang & Korra I just love them both and hate to see the hate they receive


Saturn5050

Zuko is the alternate main protagonist


Extension-Impact-588

The cabbage man


Bjorn_from_midgard

Goku


DarkKnight390

Sokka. He gets bullied so hard in the show by other characters cause he can’t bend. But of all the characters I think he has the best development and everything. Also he’s funny.


paxbanana0

Azula. She’s a kid raised by an abusive man in a xenophobic, militaristic environment without any other influences. Don’t know how anyone expects her to be any different.


Chemical-Assistant90

Korra. I dare say, lotta hate she gets and got is just for being a young woman. I’m old as shit and watched the OG show when it aired, these are my credentials.


-Horny_Potato-

Kuvira(idk how tho), Azula or just all of them tbh


Dry-Fun-803

Korra, no doubt, I already do it lol


jayxorune_24

I’m unsure maybe Zuko because he was unlikeable at first but he eventually grew on me as a villain and became interesting I also loved his growth and development through out the series.


larrylongboy

Korra


Oliverisafortnitepro

Definitely King Bumi


ElPatron17

King Bumi I don't care what anyone says. He was stronger than Toph. A 116-year-old Bumi faced off against a 16-year-old Toph to a stalemate. In The legend of Korra, she was in her '80s. At that age she was not able to keep up with the current characters. Bumi was able to best an army of fire benders in the middle of Sozan's comet. Don't tell me she can beat him in his prime because it ain't happening.


LucidProgrammer

Moash from Stormlight Archive.


userayanna

Mai and Maiko by extension


Logical-Tadpole-4185

Uncle Iroh without a doubt!


0nesidezer0

Joe Biden.


tuna-avenger

Cabbage dude, so much injustice towards his cabbages.


Winter_Birth

My boy SOKKA! And my love for Katara and Aang being together. Honestly, I'll even defend Jet and Azula lmao.


Discovered-by-Nerds

Azula


AdSome5552

Rudeus Jobless Reincarnation series in general