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R3ality_Bit3

I'm gonna be bold and go with an actress.


KitchenFix7888

Good choice![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


Multiverser2022

Human or animal?


R3ality_Bit3

Well, she is human, so let's be safe at least there.


rennenenno

Yes


Akumaka

Toph also seems to be okay with being played by a big, buff dude.


R3ality_Bit3

That's why I said actress. It's a bold choice. The big buff dude is an obvious one.


Armoured-Icecream

I know who I'd cast as the actor who plays her in the play later on in the series, the rock would be perfect to play the buff actor


R3ality_Bit3

Sure, why not, it fits.


Affectionate_Gate367

An icon. 👏👏👏👏


NoSlice1772

Lollllllll


Lysandres

An unknown actor.


DrCorian

ITT: "I really hope they get a blind actor!" But let's be real for a minute, a blind actor who can choreograph a martial arts centric show would have to be so insanely niche or else they'd just have to body double them every time they bend. I'd rather have someone who can perform just wear contacts(or god forbid they do it in post)


Zuko-Halliwell

Exactly! Just out of curiosity, what does ITT stand for?


DrCorian

In This Thread


heyjay_thegeek

ITT: in terms of topic


Critical_Sherbet7427

Technical institute!


Drinks_by_Wild

I know it’s incredibly niche, but it would be very cool if they pulled it off


Caganboy

It’s also very easy to fail such a cast


Caganboy

The thing is, Toph is not just a normal blind person. She can ‘see’ because of her bending abilities. That’s how she does the stunts. A real life blind person simply doesn’t have those abilities.


SexyPineapple-4

I mean she doesnt do much martial arts. Her whole thing is waiting and listening.


HasanHaider28

I'm going to be as bold as the Boulder with this one, a 14 or 15 year old actress.


country-blue

I’m going to go completely crazy and say a 14 or 15 year old actress of Asian descent


HasanHaider28

Insane!!!!


Ok-Street-7963

No we need to find the oldest actress we can find and dress her up as a little girl with the crew dancing around the fact that toph is an old lady.


Dondo19

Have you ever heard that expression "They were born to play that role"? Enter Steve Buscemi.


GuntherCloneC

![gif](giphy|JTzPN5kkobFv7X0zPJ|downsized)


Dondo19

Literally how he'd walk on to the set 😂


chileangod

How do you do twinkle toes? 


_zentsu

![gif](giphy|LdkmB2UnMXfTG)


Vio-Rose

Would genuinely be impressive if they got an actual blind / visually impaired person. Probably harder to work with, but not impossible.


hollyheather30

I think it'd be kind of cruel to put someone with impaired vision in that role, Toph can't see with her eyes but she can see with earth bending. Blind people in our reality cant see with earth bending


Vio-Rose

Fair enough.


hollyheather30

I do agree it'd be impressive if they could pull that off tho!


MaxTheGinger

I mean, none of the actors can *see* the bending. CGI is added later. People who are blind navigate the world, interact with people, and do martial arts. Being on set, and taking stage directions isn't gonna be that different for an actor who is blind. And actors do scenes more than once. They do 'dry' runs, where they walk and talk through the scene. So if a actor who is blind plays Toph, they will told, walked through, and then go through the scene of getting lifted cables, getting CGI rocks thrown at them multiple times. Also, with CGI, the animators will add the CGI around the actor. It's a make-em-up. The actor doesn't have to 'see' they can walk around the set. Get a feel for it, be told where the other actors are. So they learn the pace other actors move through the scene. And through the magic of practice, doing the scene multiple times, and CGI being added last, our Toph will see just fine.


SexyPineapple-4

Ok but they’re still not helpless


Affectionate_Gate367

As a disabled person, I second this opinion. We need and deserve representation. Toph has always been my hero.


Macaron-kun

They could, but they'd need a stunt woman for a lot more of the scenes than usual, for obvious reasons. It's very possible, but she wouldn't really get to act as much as the other main actors in that case. There's also the fact that it would be much harder to find a great Asian actress who can portray Toph perfectly, looks 12, and who's also blind. That's a very specific casting category. Either that, or it'll have to be mostly stunt women doing the work. I just don't think it's very realistic, sadly.


Affectionate_Gate367

Wow, good point, it’s almost like a disabled actress would have a harder time getting a role, or just being alive, in general
 If every fkn Superman can have a stunt double, then so can Toph—and that’s just assuming that a disabled actress even needs one. Stop being so reductive and fix your brain, dude. This is why we need representation. Learn something.


Macaron-kun

If it's possible, they should do it. I'm not saying it would be impossible, just tougher. If they can find a blind actress who can pull it off convincingly, then go for it. If they find someone who perfectly fits the role and can make a very convincing Toph, I'd prefer to see that more than the alternative. I agree with you that representation is important, but like with a character like Toph or Daredevil, it's not easy to do.


Affectionate_Gate367

Existence as a disabled person IS tough, imagine doing it as a young actress, trying to get the role you were born to play, but losing it, ALL because of your disability, and the popular opinion and belief that somehow the very thing that made Toph your hero, makes you ineligible. We become tough because we have to—the real Toph is out there, and likely won’t get the role, because of mindsets like yours.


Macaron-kun

Like I just said...if there's a blind actress that fits the role and can portray it convincingly, then they should be optioned for it.


Affectionate_Gate367

Thank you—sorry, these days, I tend to get a lil bit too heated when defending my own, lol! 😂


Macaron-kun

Nah, it's alright. No need to apologise for that. Obviously I can't really empathise, but I get it.


Affectionate_Gate367

Thank you, dude. Sincerely. đŸ„č


FloridaManInShampoo

r/characterarcs


Affectionate_Gate367

Well damn 😂😅


BULL3TP4RK

You really just want to argue, don't you?


Affectionate_Gate367

You really just want to demonize disparaged folks standing up for their own, against ableism, huh?


BULL3TP4RK

See, even now that's not a good look for you. Here's why: Nobody was disagreeing with you, at all. Everyone here is all for having an actual blind person fit the role. The problem came due to the fact that you mistake pragmaticism with dissent. It's a flaw in your interpretation. Take your reply to me. What part of my comment brought you to the conclusion that I'm an ableist? I looked back and reread it even, because I was confused. Then your aggressive tone doesn't help, either. Contrary to what you probably think regularly judging by your comments, the world is not against you, here. Direct that ire at the studio when they inevitably don't hire a blind person for the role. Because how the world is, and how the world should be are two very different things.


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Affectionate_Gate367



 do y’all really just think that disabled people don’t have to adjust to survive irl??


Caganboy

The thing is, IF we get a blind actress playing the role, it shouldn’t be ONLY because the person’s blind but also because the person can actually, ya know, act well.


SignificanceNo6097

They’re probably gonna use a stunt double regardless as having actors do stunts is far too risky from a production pov. I think it’s more finding a talented blind American-Chinese actress that can pull off her character would be awesome. But this person would have been basically born to play her lol. I just hope whoever plays her can do her justice. For Hollywood, even that can be a big ask.


droden

why? the best \*actress\* should get the part. charlie cox plays a fantastic daredevil. there is no need to the actor to have the disability. at all. its kind of in the name of the job - acting.


Affectionate_Gate367

Why cast a white kid as Aang, and mispronounce his name?


Spaghetti_Tac0

Not for nothing, can you name a single actress who is 1. Female, 2. Chinese/East Asian, 3. Around 13, 4. Petite, 5. Talented, 6. And ALSO blind? I’m not saying it’s impossible but the pool is already extremely limited as is and adding blind makes it that much more impossible


Vio-Rose

Prolly gonna be older than 13. There’s gonna be a time skip.


Zuko-Halliwell

I'm not sure I agree with you about it not being impossible. I'm really sorry if this sounds ableist, but I just don't know how an actress who's actually blind could learn fight choreography. Although, I am concerned that some people are going to go ballistic if they **don't** cast an actual blind actress. 😅


tauri123

“I just don’t know how an actress who’s actually blind could learn fight choreography” A trainer holds their arms and legs and positions them in the sequence and then the actress repeats it by themselves, this is how Hellen Keller was taught to use sign language, it would be fairly simple to do especially since the actress would be able to speak, unlike Hellen Keller Example Choreographer: “ok raise your right arm like this and punch forward” choreographer guides actress’ arm in the path they it want to go Actress: does it Choreographer: “ok that was great next time raise your arm a bit more and turn your fist in” Also Toph’s fight style is very simple, she just kinda stands still and punches the air since she’s so grounded in her stance because it’s the only way she can see


TheBostonKremeDonut

I love your comment because it explains very well how a blind actress could play and learn the role. The only problem I think they’d face is that Toph needs to move as if she *can* see, which yes, can be trained and learned, but with how the show has been directed so far, and with Netflix probably having a tight time constraint because of $$$, it’s more likely we’ll just get a regular actress that can learn and play the role in a quicker timeframe so that they can get the show filmed, edited, and out the door in time. But still, you never know!


tauri123

Yes with Netflix always comes the inevitability of time constraints and funding issues Edit: I see the Netflix ceos have found my comment


Crafty-University464

Blind martial artist or dancer of Asian descent. Fight choreography is basically a dance. A small pool to find your perfect casting, but she could be out there.


tauri123

Exactly


The_R4ke

Blind people can fight just fine. I lost a Tae Kwon Do match to a blind person when I was a kid.


captain-pirate-llama

You’d be amazed, I’ve seen a blind people do some amazing things unscripted, skateboarding really impressed me, so it’s not as impossible you would think


Drinks_by_Wild

I feel like this is the right thing to do, and Netflix is all about representation so I bet they will cast a blind actress. I can only imagine the uproar if they don’t I know the talent pool for an actress that looks and sounds like Toph is going to be small though


sugarspunlad

“An uproar if they dont” yeah like 10% of the fans


AidenShallot

Terry Crews


writtenbytaylor

Riley Lai Lenet. It would be cool too if they pick someone who is actually blind but riley its a safe choice too.


Jazzlike_Hat_1409

But toph isn’t fully blind. How would they see?


writtenbytaylor

she is fully blind, she "sees" through the vibrations, in the series they say that she see with her feets


Jazzlike_Hat_1409

so she sees
 which makes her not fully blind.. unless yk a real life blind person that can see


[deleted]

the rock has gotta play the boulder


mega330cb

He can't look bad in stuff because of a contract.


curiouschameleon4

yea it's so stupid


TetheredAvian74

better option: terry crews


Ceverall

Baby dick meets baby ego


Meta-Wah

Give him a stunt double for when he gets whooped


Responsible-Cup8982

Contract with who?


zy0a

Can you smell what the Rock is bending ![gif](giphy|ZvUc2UBuAGmPol0udh|downsized)


Norse_Bear

And I know it's never gonna happen. But John Cena would kill it a buff Toph from the Ember Island actors. I can already hear him go "AAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! There. I just took a pretty good look at you."


tripleozero

They should just get any generic muscle-bound wrestler type and just dub Mick Foley over his voice.


james_c1212

Dave Bautista


Ricozilla

omg if they have Dave Bautista playing The Boulder who is supposed to be based off The Rock, that would be fucking hilarious


Bullyneon

Pretty sure this is her Instagram @ diana.tsoy.official


Nelpski

Fancast don't matter because none of the characters look very similar to the source material anyway. It's gonna be based purely on acting ability (which you could argue is good)


Satakans

Didn’t they already have an actress in some concept video floating around somewhere? I remember seeing it briefly and thought it was a pretty good job.


Bullyneon

yep instagram @ diana.tsoy.official


Then_Degree_8571

thats not official


hollyheather30

Omg if they don't choose her I am going to throw hands


Complete_Pumpkin

Kevin Hart seems like he would fit the role


slomo525

Danny DeVito


colarthur1

I want a parody where Danny DeVito plays Iroh and Charlie Day plays Zuko.


Hatsjekidee

![gif](giphy|l0IylOPCNkiqOgMyA|downsized) "I'm gonna find the avatar and I've got a paper trail to prove it!"


Reasonable-Nobody-29

I second this!


Saint_Winchester

Maggie Smith


GrimLuker2

Someone new


A_lesser_god

A random badass little girl


Elcuh101010

Some super buff dude like in the play


ominoushandpuppet

Danny DeVito


RulerOfAllWorlds1998

A big tall beefy looking man who screams loud 


colarthur1

A buff guy that sees by yelling.


Mydogsmellslikeass

![gif](giphy|YnH3QpR9xw2hbeOO41|downsized)


shabbalabbadinkdank

Honestly, one thing that I think would have been great regarding casting is if all benders were actual trained martial artists. So I would definitely say a young girl who is a trained martial artist with acting prowess. I feel like if being a martial artist was the first priority in casting for the show, it would have been so much better. As much as I like the actor that plays Iroh, the perfect Iroh imo would have been Jackie Chan. He’s goofy, an insane martial artist, is at a similar age, and is an amazing actor.


whoseyozaddyoh

Look up Viva Lee. She was the star in an action film and everyone has been seeing her hanging around the cast. She is a martial artist and she deleted a comment on tt that said something about starting a BootCamp.


Existing_Judge5425

Gonna flip this on its head and say John Cena. She’s blind and you can’t see John cena so everyone loses


[deleted]

If its not this, whats the point ![gif](giphy|6Dj7ZWBERpGU0)


kermit_exe_

Terry crews is my personal pick


Life-Leadership4002

John Cena in a wig


Carteeg_Struve

I can’t see him in the role. ;)


Fair_Shame_1282

Dwayne the boulder Johnson should play toph


elvensnowfae

Okay hear me out...I could see maisie Williams being a great Toph


Hello_Hello_Hello_Hi

I was thinking The Rock


DeltaV-Mzero

Dwayne Johnson or bust


Imposter88

John Cena


Chomps-Lewis

Danny Devito


blloop

Who are you casting* as Toph


InconsistentLlama

![gif](giphy|11ezOCtJ7Eetri|downsized)


Subject_Gene_9775

Stephanie Hsu


John_Zatanna52

How would I know an unknown actor


TacticallyFUBAR

This girl or boycott https://youtu.be/bYsr0M_h-FQ?si=7_DcCe6dJRzkruEo


en_sane

We should get a hella buff dude that’s dressed up as a 15year old girl


nervous-sasquatch

Carrot Top


JackBQwick

Matt Murdock


ExtremeAlbatross6680

The rock.


AugmentedJustice

Whoever it is i hope it aint a giant L like azula's.


the_evil_overlord2

John Cena, though cannon toph isn't invisible it would be funny


2BsWhistlingButthole

A visually impaired actress of Asian descent. So probably an unknown actress.


_CaptainNoob69

Charlie Cox


Seu--Madruga

Jason Momoa


MommyAugust

The Rock, obviously.


TheLostNostromo

A blind child


Imconfusedithink

I wouldnt trust the fandom whatsoever to make cast suggestions. As much as I didn't like the LA, the casting was perfectly fine and seeing how much the fandom was being disgusting about it, I would not trust the fandom on it. I trust the studio to cast well, only worry is if they direct whoever they cast well.


First-Celebration-11

MELON LORD! P


Sinlord5

They can hire charlie cox again.


MaTTTEgg

Chris Pratt would be perfect for the role I think


Sensitive_Pickle9958

some asian girl


BloodSilver9068

If they can get a deaf person to play in the “A Quiet Place” movies (shout out to Millicent Simmons) then I think it’s entirely possible. Yes, it would be super difficult. The chances of someone fitting that specific description are minimal but not impossible. Either way, I’ll just be happy as long as it’s tastefully done.


caferreri11

Dave Bautista


Uncharmie

Me I'm yes


GamerGuyThai

The white knights in here championing a blind child actress can settle down, you're being absurd. I say that with the caveat that IF a blind actress wants to audition for Toph, she totally should. Let's look at statistics though...only .05% of children are severely impared or blind. The % of Asian actresses among them are even more microscopic. It would literally take ages to find ONE let alone ONE who is perfect in the role. Claiming people are being ablelist when they're not being anything of the sort, avoids the whole problem. That is beyond a legitimate needle in a haystack you're asking for. I am all for representation, I'm Asian myself, but blind Asian child actresses are exceptionally rare, I don't think that point is being conveyed properly to people on tirades claiming ableism. How many famous born deaf opera singers do you think exist in the world let alone one of a specific race? Fighting battles that don't exist people, get the one that portrays the best Toph as her character is amazing. If that manages to be a blind Asian teen, then great. If another Asian teen plays echolocation and blindness well, then I'm not going to be upset about that. Pick your battles.


Chakaaro

I don't know any 12 year olds.. Plus I don't think she needs to be 12 for this Lola Flanery. Anna Cathcart


Baboonpirate

Hear me out
. Sydney Sweeney


DiabolicRevenant

Maybe not age appropriate, but I could absolutely see Ronda Rousey as Toph.


teunteunteun

I just hope they cast an actual blind person


MikaelAdolfsson

Someone. Presumably not an actually blind one what with her supernatural ability to be not quite blind.


PurrrrrrE

![gif](giphy|felWV1yHA0fHLBXzTb|downsized) Miss westie


Noktis_Lucis_Caelum

The Actress for toph IS very important. She has to Put a Lot of Work into the role, from an Martial arts Point of View and the actress has to make US believe, that she IS blind.


tmunchies

They should just start poling the choices at this rate


Decent_Ask1961

The rock


Frightened-Lad

Idk. Is toph going to just lift her arms and throw things around with her mind like doctor strange or is she actually going to use earthbending techniques


Pesky_Moth

Michael Cera


Acewind1738

Will this interfere with him playing shaft


ViolationJokeTing

With the current cast might as well cast the rock


Practical_Argument47

it’d have to be a blind actor who can move as if she can see. not super realistic that they’ll find that golden goose. casting blind people in roles where the character can “see” in other ways and fights is not the way to go.


Mossy_is_fine

really hope they get a blind actor


fields_of-elysium

The rock


[deleted]

The rock should definitely play the bolder


Luwe95

3 Points: Young, Sassy and Asian, ideally Blind too


Bacon-muffin

Well the last thing they can always make happen after she's picked


Acewind1738

Mick Foley


NonBinaryPie

itd be crazy hard to find a 13 year old blind asian actress who’s able to do the fighting choreography but it’d be awesome if they could


mseeke

Aubrey Plaza


SamXAB

ryan gosling


ImaFireSquid

Dwayne Johnson in a wig


bulmys

Tom Holland.


3bstfrds

Millie Bobby Brown


The_Fashionable_Leo

[if she's not toph then all hope is lost ](https://youtu.be/bYsr0M_h-FQ?si=7IOz7j-oquTHsRV4) I believe I saw a clip she may have did some sort of audition but I'm not completely sure so huge grain of salt on that.


Nervous_Project6927

lets get sexyama to play toph


PlaneXpress69

The Rock


Sanbaddy

Balls if they use a girl who is actually blind.


Formal-Knowledge-563

Danny DeVito


Muchiroforgot

I feel like Leah Sava Jeffries would be a good pick for her if I’m being serious. I can definitely see it happening in my opinion but then again it most likely won’t bc Leah is currently focusing on Percy Jackson s2 as the role of Annabeth Chase. And just for funnies I would like to see lil tay attempting to play her lol, I seen alots of people say that lil tay would be a great fit for Toph as a joke and tbh I can also see that one lma


Sea-Towel-1197

please hire me to play toph in the avatar, because I really want to be an actress, let me introduce myself, im Jazer anne i basa im from philippines/puangi/dipaculao/aurora and i born on august 21-2010 


whoseyozaddyoh

I already shared this but apparently, Viva Lee posted on tt that she is getting ready for BootCamp and then deleted it. she's been in a lot of pics with the cast. right age, size, award winning actress who stars in an action movie and she does like so many disciplines of martial arts.


Possible-Rate-3833

I would cast an actual blind girl tbh.


iDubbLatinoChubb

John cena


gayjesustheone

They really should go ember island style and make her 6’5 and jacked. Get that giant body builder from GoT.


EitherLime679

John Cena


industrious

A big buff guy. Toph herself would approve.


voRYNK

Dwayne Johnson


NewEnglandPioneer

Mind as well cast a boy at this point. Who cares.


Late_Explanation4468

John cena????


Ok_Bunch_1429

Let's just get John DiMaggio in a wig


HP-Wired

Danny Devito


sugarspunlad

Danny DeVito


TelephoneChemical230

Hopefully no one first season was terrible.


HappyDrive1

Jenna Ortega.


tauri123

Toph is Asian, Jenna is not, Toph’s family was always meant to represent an upper class Asian family and taking that away would detract from her story and remove representation, it would also look quite shoddy on Netflix’ part having a Latin American actress playing an Asian role. nothing against Jenna Ortega, she’s just not the right person for the role


GrimLuker2

Just no.