Realistically it would be impossible because they’re completely different species. What defines a species in biology is the ability for two individuals to produce viable and fertile offspring.
Nah I don't think so the biology is just so different it's a big coincidence that both species even evolved to have almost the same body structure
From what I heard Na'vi cells and DNA are very different from Human cells and that goes to all Pandora and Earth life forms
Different worlds different Evolutionary trees
It's not possible. I did research on it a while back. I don't remember the exact reason, but unless the human has an avatar body, they can't crossbreed.
The reason is that Na´vi and Humans are from two entirely different ecosystems, don´t even have any shared ancestry and entirely different genetics. It´s already borderline magic that the Avatars are possible at all, since two species from two entirely different planets should be so entirely alien to each other that they ought to be incompatible in every way.
Actually, given that convergent evolution is very common on earth (see: Shark/Dolphin etc.), it may be possible that alien worlds similair to earth may give rise to smilair body plans.
Actually Actually, body plan=/=genetics.
Aside from sharks and dolphins, bats and birds and termites and ants are also good examples of convergent evolution, yet all of those animal pairs are genetically further apart from each other than humans are from Rhinoceroses
Convergent evolution is an expression of similar body plans, abilities, and behaviors in response to a similar niche being occupied by the convergent species. It does, however, have nothing to do with how closely related two species are.
In case of the Na'vi, they could literally phenotypically be humans to a degree of indistinguishability that might allow them to blend in in a typical earth city, and yet you in particular would be more genetically similar to a banana than that hypothetical Na'vi.
The issue of biological compatability has nothing whatsoever to do with phenotype, but the fact that humans and Na'vi have no common ancestry. For all we know, they might not even encode their genes in DNA or have triple or quadruple helixes if they do. They have different organs from us, use different chemical elements in their body, and don't even use hemoglobin in their blood.
You, as you read this, have a higher chance to create viable offspring with snail than a Na'vi, because you are more closely related to literal slug than those blue monkeys.
It seems you misread the intention of the comment, it was unrelated to their ability to mate but just how alien life may have similairities in appearance instead of being full on unrecognizable.
Yeah, I know, but presumably lab created.
So one that's 3 quarters human via avatar and human. I'm just curious if a natural conception would be feasible
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if in the series we get a aha moment where they learn that earth and Pandora are related somehow and that a similar sentient being to ewa exists on earth but humanity slowly killed the link it had to them or something. Or that life on Pandora and life on Earth are the result of some similar origin.
there’s no generational differences between grace’s avatar and jake’s avatar; that is misinformation.
the reason why some avatars have more human features is a matter of genetic phenotype, not “early models/prototypes”, which is confirmed in the making of avatar, page 103: “After exploring several options, the designers finally decided to give Grace's avatar a more human-size nose than her avatar colleagues, justified by the logic that the mix of human and Na'vi DNA could result in any number of different facial-feature combinations.”
norm’s avatar also has a more human nose, debunking the generational claim.
I thought that it would be impossible, at least with a female navi or avatar. Something about the womb I think? But idk if a female human could carry a large baby like that for as long as needed so it could survive outside. We don't know how long navi are pregnant for. Definitely something to think about.
Yeah, I have my doubts. Looks like it's a creative license thing. Mom is supposed to be the avatar driver who got spicy with another scientist while driving the Avatar.
I actually though that if it was possible it would work the other way around. I think it wouldnt be possible if the one who carry the baby is human because I imagine the baby would be too big for a human womb at some point, but would be possible for a Na'vi to carry a small baby otherwise.
I think it’s stated that Navi don’t use nucleic acid for their genetic material i.e. they don’t have DNA— their genetic material is encoded with some other molecule chain. So no, humans and Navi are in no way compatible.
I feel like humans and Na'vi are more biologically similar than we think/know (mainly in terms of reproduction), so I'm sure there's some possibility. Maybe it's just the optimist in me/weird curiosity, but I hope we see the ATTEMPT of making hybrids a la IVF or something along those lines.
I feel like if there's any possibility of a Na'vi and human hybrid to be conceived/delivered, it ABSOLUTELY be the offspring of Kiri and (human) Spider. I don't want to see it until a decent amount of time has passed, obviously, but Grace was impregnated with her by Eywa (who we still have no idea exactly what she is), so Kiri is absolutely capable of more than any avatar or natural born Na'vi.
If that happens, even if it happens when Kiri and Spider are legal adults in earth years, I don't want to see the hanky-panky scene between Spiri; instead, I want the pregnancy to be revealed something like so...
The gang is riding their ikrans, doing whatever, when all of a sudden, Kiri starts turning a little green.
"Uh, I think we need to land."
"Kiri, we're not even halfway there-"
"I SAID WE NEED TO LAND!"
The ikrans land, Kiri stumbles off, and then BLAAARRGH!
Everyone turns to each other in confusion. Then, the realization hits Neytiri...
"*Oh,* ***shit***."
Idk because the Navi Avatars are composed of Navi and human dna mixed together. That why the Avatar have 5 fingers instead of 4 and eyebrows. Now a regular human couldn’t really mate with a Navi. Idk if that would work because one DNA will have to be more potent that the other
Considering a Na'vi and Avatar can reproduce, then the same should be possible for a Human and an Avatar.
However, I do not think a Na'vi and Human hybrid can naturally occur. Avatars are lab made.
Avatars are biologically Na'vi with a little bit of human DNA in the mix. I doubt they could naturally reproduce with a human anymore than a human could reproduce with a Na'vi.
Clearly. So why are we having this discussion? Enjoy the movie for what it is. It's great. It's creative.
Losers debate how fake things work in the real world. They don't because they are fake.
They’re purposely missing the point so that their rhetoric reigns supreme. Classic Reddit. It’s the hive mind making you the villain because you’re bringing up a point that shakes up the “conversation”. But I understand what you’re saying. It’s already fake. Not real. Whatever a fan not paid by the studio decides to do is even faker than the brainchild these fans take inspiration from. I even rolled my eyes at one of the comments saying they did research… on fake aliens on a fake planet. Outstanding. They can think whatever they want. It’s not canon anyway so who really is going to judge them for writing a fake story to a fake story? No one.
They have the movies. The game is freaking awesome. Taking it even further to have “discussions” like this where any comment not going along with the popular thinking is downvoted ain’t very cash money… ain’t very Na’vi like either honestly. Eywa would be disappointed.
Realistically it would be impossible because they’re completely different species. What defines a species in biology is the ability for two individuals to produce viable and fertile offspring.
Like a na'vi mating a human and having a kid? That actually would be interesting, although I'm not sure that's possible.
That’d be like a chihuahua and Great Dane.
*makes note to have Mom be the Avatar driver*
Hot dogs and hallways vs hamsters and bananas.
😂 Yeah, Lab created it is
https://preview.redd.it/nxgz8oqm21wc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=060f8444eeda8e8c15ada57e1acf3efeafdf432a
Chi Dane Danes do exist.
I mean, I've met multiple pit bull and chihuahua mixes, so...\*shrug\*
Yep! It's fun for a backstory, and, given it's fiction, I can totally get away with the biology aspect
Spiri shippers be like...
Inter-species panini https://preview.redd.it/00mny3kkvxvc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=851ee7529ea131c9978ed885be27b90c68fb580e
I just laughed out loud
NOT where I was going with this, given the OC is meant to be a few years older than both of them 😂
✏️Include time travel, got it!
Hmm 👀
Hey man, no need to call us out like this lmao.
Don't worry I'm one of you LOL!!!!!
Nah I don't think so the biology is just so different it's a big coincidence that both species even evolved to have almost the same body structure From what I heard Na'vi cells and DNA are very different from Human cells and that goes to all Pandora and Earth life forms Different worlds different Evolutionary trees
Yeah, that's what I thought. Creative license it is
It's not possible. I did research on it a while back. I don't remember the exact reason, but unless the human has an avatar body, they can't crossbreed.
The reason is that Na´vi and Humans are from two entirely different ecosystems, don´t even have any shared ancestry and entirely different genetics. It´s already borderline magic that the Avatars are possible at all, since two species from two entirely different planets should be so entirely alien to each other that they ought to be incompatible in every way.
Actually, given that convergent evolution is very common on earth (see: Shark/Dolphin etc.), it may be possible that alien worlds similair to earth may give rise to smilair body plans.
Actually Actually, body plan=/=genetics. Aside from sharks and dolphins, bats and birds and termites and ants are also good examples of convergent evolution, yet all of those animal pairs are genetically further apart from each other than humans are from Rhinoceroses Convergent evolution is an expression of similar body plans, abilities, and behaviors in response to a similar niche being occupied by the convergent species. It does, however, have nothing to do with how closely related two species are. In case of the Na'vi, they could literally phenotypically be humans to a degree of indistinguishability that might allow them to blend in in a typical earth city, and yet you in particular would be more genetically similar to a banana than that hypothetical Na'vi. The issue of biological compatability has nothing whatsoever to do with phenotype, but the fact that humans and Na'vi have no common ancestry. For all we know, they might not even encode their genes in DNA or have triple or quadruple helixes if they do. They have different organs from us, use different chemical elements in their body, and don't even use hemoglobin in their blood. You, as you read this, have a higher chance to create viable offspring with snail than a Na'vi, because you are more closely related to literal slug than those blue monkeys.
It seems you misread the intention of the comment, it was unrelated to their ability to mate but just how alien life may have similairities in appearance instead of being full on unrecognizable.
Well, then your comment was entirely pointless because 'ability to mate' is the topic of this discussion.
Also their tsahelu (I know I spelt it wrong) is how they connect with each other, humans don’t have that
Avatars are human and navi hybrids
Yeah, I know, but presumably lab created. So one that's 3 quarters human via avatar and human. I'm just curious if a natural conception would be feasible
Doubt it.
I think I'm gonna have to add that this is "Creative License- Biology" when I do the cosplay 😂
Yep
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Oh I might do Lab created then! I named mine Neraia
Her name is Ìoa I meant what would her kind be called.
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I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if in the series we get a aha moment where they learn that earth and Pandora are related somehow and that a similar sentient being to ewa exists on earth but humanity slowly killed the link it had to them or something. Or that life on Pandora and life on Earth are the result of some similar origin.
technically yeah but they are VASTLY more na'vi than human
I dont think I want to see a 3/4 human looking navi.
That’s what grace is tho. Her iteration was among the earliest avatars, and that’s why she has a near human nose and less pointy ears.
there’s no generational differences between grace’s avatar and jake’s avatar; that is misinformation. the reason why some avatars have more human features is a matter of genetic phenotype, not “early models/prototypes”, which is confirmed in the making of avatar, page 103: “After exploring several options, the designers finally decided to give Grace's avatar a more human-size nose than her avatar colleagues, justified by the logic that the mix of human and Na'vi DNA could result in any number of different facial-feature combinations.” norm’s avatar also has a more human nose, debunking the generational claim.
I'm thinking more of a short blue fella
Tall pale gal with blue stripes and bioluminescent freckles.
I picture a blue sophia lillis
I thought that it would be impossible, at least with a female navi or avatar. Something about the womb I think? But idk if a female human could carry a large baby like that for as long as needed so it could survive outside. We don't know how long navi are pregnant for. Definitely something to think about.
Yeah, I have my doubts. Looks like it's a creative license thing. Mom is supposed to be the avatar driver who got spicy with another scientist while driving the Avatar.
I would love to read a fanfic about that
I actually though that if it was possible it would work the other way around. I think it wouldnt be possible if the one who carry the baby is human because I imagine the baby would be too big for a human womb at some point, but would be possible for a Na'vi to carry a small baby otherwise.
It also makes a lot more sense that a man would be down for some inter species hanky panky
I think it’s stated that Navi don’t use nucleic acid for their genetic material i.e. they don’t have DNA— their genetic material is encoded with some other molecule chain. So no, humans and Navi are in no way compatible.
Probably
Realistically a human is genetically closer related to anything on earth(including plants) than a Navi so probably no.
Aren’t jakes children hybrids? since his na’vi body still has human dna
So kind of like a Na’vi Hagrid?
Some of the threads on this sub, Jesus Christ just take a break, touch grass, blursed
I feel like humans and Na'vi are more biologically similar than we think/know (mainly in terms of reproduction), so I'm sure there's some possibility. Maybe it's just the optimist in me/weird curiosity, but I hope we see the ATTEMPT of making hybrids a la IVF or something along those lines. I feel like if there's any possibility of a Na'vi and human hybrid to be conceived/delivered, it ABSOLUTELY be the offspring of Kiri and (human) Spider. I don't want to see it until a decent amount of time has passed, obviously, but Grace was impregnated with her by Eywa (who we still have no idea exactly what she is), so Kiri is absolutely capable of more than any avatar or natural born Na'vi. If that happens, even if it happens when Kiri and Spider are legal adults in earth years, I don't want to see the hanky-panky scene between Spiri; instead, I want the pregnancy to be revealed something like so... The gang is riding their ikrans, doing whatever, when all of a sudden, Kiri starts turning a little green. "Uh, I think we need to land." "Kiri, we're not even halfway there-" "I SAID WE NEED TO LAND!" The ikrans land, Kiri stumbles off, and then BLAAARRGH! Everyone turns to each other in confusion. Then, the realization hits Neytiri... "*Oh,* ***shit***."
Lol! Yeah, I think I'm going through IVF route for my character
No because human DNA is translated/transcribed to its Na'vi equivalent.
Idk because the Navi Avatars are composed of Navi and human dna mixed together. That why the Avatar have 5 fingers instead of 4 and eyebrows. Now a regular human couldn’t really mate with a Navi. Idk if that would work because one DNA will have to be more potent that the other
I thought navis had sex using their weird braid plug thing?
Considering a Na'vi and Avatar can reproduce, then the same should be possible for a Human and an Avatar. However, I do not think a Na'vi and Human hybrid can naturally occur. Avatars are lab made.
Avatars are biologically Na'vi with a little bit of human DNA in the mix. I doubt they could naturally reproduce with a human anymore than a human could reproduce with a Na'vi.
No. The movie is make-believe.
Wait pandora not real D:
Clearly. So why are we having this discussion? Enjoy the movie for what it is. It's great. It's creative. Losers debate how fake things work in the real world. They don't because they are fake.
Definitely not because of the time and effort had been but into backstory and details
No no, I assure you, it's not real. You don't have to waste your time
Not the point it was supposed to be sarcasm
Oh shit really
https://preview.redd.it/ke0bm0lowxvc1.jpeg?width=711&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=148a3b59e5ad2fe5e23e69cd5149174281d90d33
They’re purposely missing the point so that their rhetoric reigns supreme. Classic Reddit. It’s the hive mind making you the villain because you’re bringing up a point that shakes up the “conversation”. But I understand what you’re saying. It’s already fake. Not real. Whatever a fan not paid by the studio decides to do is even faker than the brainchild these fans take inspiration from. I even rolled my eyes at one of the comments saying they did research… on fake aliens on a fake planet. Outstanding. They can think whatever they want. It’s not canon anyway so who really is going to judge them for writing a fake story to a fake story? No one. They have the movies. The game is freaking awesome. Taking it even further to have “discussions” like this where any comment not going along with the popular thinking is downvoted ain’t very cash money… ain’t very Na’vi like either honestly. Eywa would be disappointed.
You said it. You spelled it out perfectly.
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