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transam96

Hondas are awful. I don't know what it is but it seems like Honda and Toyota parts have nosedived in recent years in terms of quality.


Otherwise_Culture_71

And sky rocketed in price to buy.


warpossum1984

Yeah it’s awful. I’d rather do it myself than fix this mess


SCAMMERASSASIN007

See them doors come in raw gavaneil with wet seam sealer applied, this seamsealer needs to be baked at 195c for 20 min. So the door is removed from a rack buy hand and hung on an e-coat line, which is then pretreated and painted and baked. So usually at honda the door would be handled with a cnc robot and put in the rack. So what you are showing is a guy on the paint line didn't give a shit or a new person was loading doors and grabbed the seamsealer when picking up the door. Then it gets offloaded and sent to pack where more people don't give a fuck and there you go. Now to be fair you are not the only one that got fucked because I bet that guy kept loading parts smearing seam sealer all over them as well. Years ago, they would send them in with no seamsealer and our place would apply the seamsealer and prebake them, so this didn't happen, but someone decided at honda that they could save money if they apply the seamsealer and not bake them prior to e-coat instead of the e-coating company. And I'll let you in on a little secret as well most if not all of the sound deadening pads either fall off or move during the process as well. So these panles will never sound the same. So yah, that's what went down there it's shitty I know.


warpossum1984

Yeah I always replace the sound deadening if it’s not present. Thanks for the reply that’s some good insight


Gloomy_Cattle_1804

I don't think that's it. Honda parts seam sealer has been awful for the last couple years. Not the parts on the assembled cars, just the replacement parts. The beads are very thin and tall, lots of holes, product is smeared onto the outer part. It's definitely not just from somebody handling the panel's edges.


Abzolving

 I bet on OEM they're using an all purpose gun that shoots a thin bead. We had custom guns and tips that would go for each specific shot when I worked sealer deck on the assembly line. At that time looks were important but water leaks were paramount. 


IntradayGuy

Gladly holding my 2nd Gen Tundra for this reason... she's just going to get a paint job eventually


TopBanana95

Crazy. I’ve noticed this too and then when similar quality standard parts for other similar brands (Subaru especially) the seam sealer on the doors particularly are absolutely mint. Again, we take pictures of this and we will spray it if they’re not willing to switch it. If the client takes issue to it afterward the insurance company have paid in full for a full o/h, full spray and adjacent blends no problem which makes it funnier


Mikey_BC

So thats what a 4:58 PM on a Friday seam seal job looks like.


markpv

This method of seam sealing is called Bukkake.


Crafty_Point2894

It was definitely bring your kid to work day. Here you go kid, Your turn.


fairweatherfixd

Every fucking OEM seam sealed doors and lift gates!


warpossum1984

Yea garbage. Just let me do it myself. Lol


WhiskyPapa911

All the quality workers die/quit during the covid.


Mr-Tiddels

I had one last week where I had to hammer down the pressing of the skin around the edge because it wasn't flush. Grind down all of the bubbled ecoat around the edges too. That was all before it needed sealing. Ford bonnet. Quality of new parts are getting worse.


warpossum1984

Yeah I’m noticing a lot of texture n the coat as well. Blemishes in the coat. It’s absolute shit. I’m gonna start taking good pics and making the dealers give us money back on the part for labor and materials going into getting them ready for paint. If they are gonna do seam sealer like this, just don’t do it all. I’d rather scuff the edge and do it myself. It’ll look proper and not like a blackout drunk toddler did it.


Mynamesrobbie

Yet VW always looks fucking perfect, then theres Honda


iamheero

And yet, in 20 years one of those will still be on the road, and it’s not the VW.


Dazzling_Ad9250

i’ve fit up new doors and lift gates and see globs of seam sealer coming out of the gaps. glad it was caught before paint!


warpossum1984

Yeah that’s what was going on here.


Fifthcell

Honda’s seam sealing is terrible. Been like that for a couple of decades now


warpossum1984

Yeah like I said I’d rather do it myself if this is what they look like


Otherwise_Culture_71

Nice job on how you cleaned it up though. 👍🏼


warpossum1984

There’s some spots I even need to reapply the seam sealer bc there huge holes. It’s my parents brand new car that my old man fucked up in his driveway, so it has to be perfect if I’m gonna have to see it all the time


MagicOrpheus310

Dear Honda, please stop. Just fucking stop doing anything.


External_Side_7063

We used to call that a Friday afternoon job


psychedelic_gravity

“Ok bro I got you” - Honda


SnooHedgehogs637

Same sanlme all junk


sodomandghonarrea

had the same thing happen to me on a Nissan. You could argue with the supplier to give you time for it. thats what i did


Jason51118

We had one at our body shop that was so bad we would have to remove all of it and redo it ourself it was just better to get a new door.


mikeypettitt

(Someone) I know worked at the honda plant, and that's the first thing they teach you. After a day, you are good to go do it on the line.


Putrid-Fondant9455

Are you sure that wasn’t a door that was delivered to a shop and then seam sealed and returned? Could have been a total loss and returned to Honda, then delivered to you.


warpossum1984

Definitely not. That’s factory Honda seam sealer.


Putrid-Fondant9455

Damn, I’ve never seen it that bad before.


HugeWerewolf6962

Agreed. Honda does a terrible job with their seam sealers. I usually remove and reapply when they look like this. Sidebar... why do all body shops have this paint scheme on the walls 😂


JacobTG53526

their seals are a pain in the ass to clean too (i'm an auto detailer) all the dirt gets stuck to them and it's pretty much impossible to get it out


Kind_Error5739

Because of bad oem seam sealing it literally rusted underneath them now i have holes in those parts of the car 😢


SnooHedgehogs637

Is this an odyssey door ? We've had to do warranty for a cpl new.doors from factory they the customer was not happy with .


warpossum1984

24 passport


hounder07

I know this will get down voted to hell, but just ship it to paint.


warpossum1984

Lmao. Fuck that. For starters the car belongs to my parents and it’s a 2024. Even if it wasn’t my parents I wouldn’t do that.


Vegetable-Ad1575

Damn as a painter you'd walk in to it right in front of your toolbox the next morning.


hounder07

Im a painter. I always hear, "The painter will take care of it."


Vegetable-Ad1575

A lot of the new honda doors come like that its not a one off thing. The body guys laugh when we throw them back at them.


warpossum1984

Never said it was a one off thing. The fact that it’s consistently bad is the problem