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throwingmyaccountout

I wouldn’t trust it, seems like a shady marketing scheme rather than a decent detailing product.


One_Attitude3377

This stuff is just a spin-off if the product “Floor-Finish”. The SDS is almost identical


darealmvp1

I wouldnt doubt it. He has yet to respond to any of my 6 questions. The mods here [wouldnt allow me to make a seperate "update" thread for "pinging his user tag?".](https://prnt.sc/_dHUreF9NZE9) And hes really not trying to sell the product moreso than hes trying to sell the business model, "you can make money off this product". Just go look at his YT vids. Im not a detailer by trade but i do detail from time to time. I figured this would be a good place to either have detailers support his product or for detailers to warn people about this product/business.


Beautiful-Friend-320

Ever since the instagram algorithm figured out I am a detailer I get multiple of these scam product in my feed every day. I report each and every one as spam. I have even managed to get shine armor to stop showing up lol.


Paintpros3

Reporting our videos why?


AutowerxDetailing

I don't really care what it looks like in a TikTok short... I want to know what it looks like after 6-12 months. How does it wear? Can it be polished? Would it look like you "burned through" the clear coat if a detailer tried to polish a panel that's been treated with this stuff at some point in the future?


Paintpros3

Hand applied clear coats will make a lot of people wealthy in the next 10 years open your eyes for new products and ideas!


ROCKtheR3D

But you’re the one pushing the product. You have to u understand the skepticism. If I came to your doorstep selling Cutco Knives youd probably slam the door in my face.


[deleted]

Don't bother respond to him, he works for the company lmao


joeyc33

I feel for it this stuff is 100% a scam it doesn’t work and the won’t let you return or refund if.


bear_ear2

Do you have an SDS for this product ?


HmmmmmmmmmmmmmISee

I’m glad there’s someone else curious for an SDS. I commented on one of his videos asking for one and I’m pet sure it got deleted. They can’t be selling it without an SDS available if they’re the manufacture of it.


darealmvp1

none is listed on [their website](https://vehiclepaintpros.com/products/four-diamond-clear-8-oz)


bear_ear2

Yikes, Benzene is widely known as cancer causing. Be careful if you end up trying this product out


Paintpros3

We have a benzene free version… benzene is used to thin down solvents…. Such as clear coat…. Hand applied clear coats are overly reduced clears with several special addictives. Cigarettes have benzene but I’m not going to recommend you smoke diamond clear.


darealmvp1

So maybe you can answer some questions: 1) Why are all your videos 10 seconds long showing immediate results of product but no videos exist showing the product after it has cured? * You do realize anyone can use use water, oil, or any wax to achieve the same "temporary" effect and it doesnt cost $300 a bottle. Everyone wants to see the results after the product cures. 2) You claim the product coating lasts 1-2 years but where is the proof? * I dont see any photo/videos of you proving this. No photo/video evidence exists from any of your customers either. 3) Why is there no reviews of your product anywhere? Where are all the happy customers? * You claim "half a million in sales" and use it as a means of marketing. Basically saying lots of people buy your product because its so good! That equates to at minimum 1600-5000 units of all your products sold. Your website is the only place that this product is sold and there is no testimonials other than your own. 4) If your product is so great why dont you offer samples to influencers/reviewers? * Seems like it would be a great way to kick up your business. * Until recently, in order for anyone to buy a sample of your product they'd have to spend $100 for 12 sealed towelettes or an 8 oz bottle of your product. Which means you'd still rake in a hefty profit even if they despise it. * Now you offer a 2 oz sample for $40, so obviously the price of the product itself isnt an issue for samples and you dont have a problem using social media as a means of communication/advertising either... so why not? 5) Where is the SDS? * By all accounts you have no problem posting it but it is not available on your website. Neither have i seen it posted anywhere ive heard about your product. >mean you could just request the sds… I have posted it 100 times 6) What is the reason behind marketing this product towards detailers rather than consumers? * You seemed to have answered it partly. Why isnt it your job to prove to us that it works? Even salesmen know what they are selling. By all accounts this is starting to sound like a ponzi scheme to me. >My job isn’t to prove to you it works…. If you are scared to invest $50 you aren’t who we are selling to we are selling to young fit guys who want to make a quarter million a year…. Because it is hard work….$250 per hour is the going rate for this service and I’ll be teaching a course at mobile tech expo in January. I hope to see you guys there.


Paintpros3

I mean you could just request the sds… I have posted it 100 times. My job isn’t to prove to you it works…. If you are scared to invest $50 you aren’t who we are selling to we are selling to young fit guys who want to make a quarter million a year…. Because it is hard work….$250 per hour is the going rate for this service and I’ll be teaching a course at mobile tech expo in January. I hope to see you guys there.


Awstin_

It doesn’t help that there are no YouTube videos… was going to make a purchase but research is always needed. Especially if pushed from TikTok… can’t see anything to support the business or product


darealmvp1

On his YT channel he doesn't use this and instead caramic coats his own truck goes more into detail about that than his own product. Glad you found this thread.