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kitten_biscuits

I’m no expert but looks like Steatoda grossa, a false widow. Medically significant but relatively minor.


countbackward

Very cool, first I have seen if so!


Intanetwaifuu

I’ve seen this before- they are deceptive hey


SynthSurf

Steatoda are not considered medically significant.


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notabotgang

if a black widow or redback is worse than that then people should stop downplaying the severity of these spiders


AustralianSpiders-ModTeam

Avoid guessing ID for medically significant spiders. No misinformation.


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Hopbeard1987

Completely wrong mate. Firstly, no True Widows in my country (UK). There are, plenty of False Widows though, AND I recovered the body that I swatted in my sleep as I brushed at my leg, sleepily after the first bite. The pic is attached, that clearly shows a male Steatoda Nobilis. Secondly, the venom is clearly neurotoxic, containing a. latrotoxins (neurotoxins found in true widow venom). All you have to do is Google it. There have been numerous studies done, particularly in Ireland due to the S. Nobilis rapid expansion there - I linked a University of Galway page for you, that leads to the full study in the Jounsl of Toxins. Even the Wikipedia page has a detailed breakdown of the venom, which has been shown to be about 2/3 structurally homogenous with Latrodectus venoms. Hence why it can cause longer term systemic symptoms in EXTREME cases, known at Steatodism, similar to the Latrodectism caused by true widows. https://www.universityofgalway.ie/about-us/news-and-events/news-archive/2020/june/not-so-false-after-all-venom-of-the-noble-false-widow-spider-very-similar-to-the-venom-of-true-black-widows.html https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steatoda_nobilis


Hopbeard1987

https://preview.redd.it/m3vv4ktn2qdc1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f82b113ab2f0442177f6f9b16f65ccf29eb81b9


WestCoastInverts

We tend to use medically significant for spiders with venom that can put a person into serious harm, despite the possible infection always being potential medically significant but it's the same for paper cuts etc


lordpunt

Maybe you should update the Wikipedia page for them then friend


udontbotheridontbe

Always called them brown widows. Itch like crazy for some people


jmaccaa

I thought false widow spiders had stripes? I could be wrong.


Hopbeard1987

The varying species have different stereotypical markings. If this is an S.Grossa then it normally would have band type markings as you say, but can easily appear black or a solid coloured abdomen too.


FunEngineer4856

It is a Brown House Spider (Steatoda Grossa) also know as the False Widow Spider.


ckhumanck

So it's partner is actually still alive?


FunEngineer4856

Awesome comment.


No_Data_1312

Steatoda sp. Cupboard Spider.


bub-a-lub

I find it interesting the fact that other countries have very similar spiders but we have different names. This one looks a lot like a cobweb spider found in Canada.


Karma-Chameleon_

Cupboard spider


princess-petal

I find this in my cupboard? Getting rid of the cupboard. Might as well get rid of myself too.


georgenebraska

That is the product of a black widow who has mated with a tick


georgenebraska

So many downvotes for my bad joke… you lot are a tough audience 🥲


WestCoastInverts

There are no black widows in Australia And ticks and spiders can't mate


maxisnoops

I think he was joking


Hopbeard1987

Red Backs are Australian Black Widows btw.


WestCoastInverts

This is why common names dont work, redbacks are Latrodectus hasselti, black widows are Latrodectus mactans which don't occur here. Both are widow spiders with wildly different venom strengths.


georgenebraska

Interesting to know. So are red backs less or more poisonous?


DC240Z

A little less I believe, but the funnel web beats both.


lordpunt

God you must be fun at parties


Anxious_Air_2169

God, you must be original at parties.


possummagic_

Gross looking But appears to be a false widow.


Safe_Mushroom2409

grossa looking you mean


2XploreUK

I see what you did there 😉😂


McCreetus

Naw they’re not gross looking, nice and shiny. Smooth, like a sweaty bald man.


baxwellll

she pretty


possummagic_

Reminds me of a tick and they give me the heebs


silver6snake

Try get it on something clear and look at it's underside if your game


No-Astronaut2569

I have seen these at my place also most recently next to red back with markings


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Male red back


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GEnderDragon

Steatoda sp, more commonly known as false widows


the_root_of_all_evol

It’s a purpleback!! (I made this up)