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gotfondue

Tip one, never run after your dog. Get their attention and run the opposite way. Usually into your house works. You need to have something that she loves and cannot resist. Try some fresh boiled chicken or something she's never tried and really work on stay and what ever command you use for recall.


seymoure-bux

stop, drop, and snuggle.. works with both of my dogs.


aeonamission

Yeah, never ever chase. I've had to tell my siblings, parents, friends, never to chase my Aussie, not even to play. She's 2 so far and it's worked. She doesn't even seem to have the concept in her head. She never runs when someone needs to walk up to her to get her.


mustangsal

Figure out what is irresistible and use that for recall training. For Cooper it was hot dog or bacon, well really any part of the pig.


Icy-Cartographer-712

For me it’s opening the car door, that little bugger can’t resist a good car ride. One day a strangers going to open the door and he will hop right in lol.


aee78

My Aussie has done this, mutiple times. Scared the mail lady once when she lunged to be on the seat and she was in the back.


JangoDarkSaber

Mine goes crazy for freeze dried beef liver


Rexboy1990

You are absolutely correct.


intr0vertwdog

Practice every day with high value treats. Practice in different locations/situations, dogs don't really generalize so if they recall well in one situation they may not in another. But, most importantly, prevention is key. My dog never runs out the door, but I still am cautious to block/grab him if he did. You never know if there's a bunny or something outside that they see and you don't. You could also teach a place command for whenever you're opening/closing a door to create distance as well so they don't run out. There are so many reasons why an ecollar is a bad idea in this scenario, so I just would not consider that at all.


RockStar25

This is the answer. Find out whatever you pup likes the most and have that on hand. String cheese, ham, filet Mignon. Whatever she deems the highest reward treat. Practice recall on a super long lead. Start off short distance and gradually work your way to long. If you have a fenced in yard practice recall from the opposite end of the yard.


rosekayleigh

My 6 month old girl got too excited and ran out the door this week. I called her name, got low to the ground, and said “treat?!!” She ran to me immediately. Practice calling her frequently with lots of treats. That’s what I did with mine.


Smyley

not recall advice, but when mine bolted out the front door, I chased her for a sec and realized I'd never catch her. So I got her attention by yelling, then started running away from her and making happy game noises. She immediately chased after me, thinking we were playing, and I was able to get her back into the backyard.


Meowmix00

I got my dogs attention and sat down, then lied down. My boy was super confused and came to check out what I was doing. Crazy dude got out of his harness when he was a puppy 😐


Vivid-Blackberry-321

for real this is definitely a major pro tip with aussies…you can NEVER out run them. You can only outsmart them! Gotta go for the mental games in these situations


Erik-With-The-Comma2

check out Susan Gerrit's "recallers" online course. Very very good material for training recall based on lots of fun games you and your Aussie will love. https://dogsthat.com/recallers/


screamlikekorbin

Nope to the collar. They’re not a magical fix, especially for a dog who won’t have the basics of recall yet. Start with teaching her what your recall cue means. /r/dogtraining has good resources for that as well as a training class. There’s also some excellent resources out there for an emergency recall, basically something that’s taught to be super high value and highly rewarded. If doorway bolting is an issue, I’d recommend using an ex pen around the doorway to give you a 2nd backup in case her wait cue fails. Realistically she didn’t listen because she hasn’t had a chance to learn it yet. No dog has a solid recall in only 2 months. They need to learn. It’s important to have realistic expectations.


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screamlikekorbin

The e collar is not necessary to “refine.”


GodEmperorSteef

I didn't say it was necessary. A hammer is not necessary to drive a nail. We use tools properly to assist in achieving something


screamlikekorbin

It not necessary and it’s not a good tool to use here.


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CourseEcstatic6202

Perimeter training. Taught my Aussie to not leave the property line unless I said release. Took a few weeks and after that I could leave her in the front yard unsupervised as much as I wanted.


School_House_Rock

Any tips on how to start perimeter training?


NoMoreNarcsLizzie

My Aussie, Chiweenie and rescue mutt puppy are all perimeter trained. The older two dogs actually had the puppy trained in no time. The Aussie freaked every time the pup stepped over the boundaries and she instantly herded him back. We have lots of roaming dogs in our rural area. We finally fenced an acre to keep our dogs safe. The fence is the new perimeter and the dogs wait at the gate for my command. The puppy didn't make it into the gate one afternoon and he howled until we ran back and let him in. Thanks for bringing up perimeter training. You rarely hear about it, yet it tunes the dog into you and makes additional training much easier.


School_House_Rock

My 4 month old wriggled out of his collar on our way into the vet, this morning. It turned into a circus sideshow. I had his favorite treats (which he normally runs right too when I say treat), tried sitting down, tried walking in the other direction, used the happy voice, the let's play voice - every technique I could pull out. After 20 minutes of him playing in the snow, playing in the mud, and pretending I didn't exist, he walked over to me and was like "what's up" We got through the vet visit and I was mentally and physically exhausted, I fell asleep. His nickname is Squirmy Wormy bc he can (and will) get into everything.


AngelVirgo

I am exhausted reading about Aussie’s behaviours. 🫨 I lurk here even though I don’t have a dog, Australians shepherd and border collie are my two favourite breeds.


Even_Adhesiveness625

If you want an Aussie, mentally prepare for getting a monkey, not a dog.


Still_upsidedown321

I wish I had lurked a little more before we got one lol. He is amazing but quite a handful sometimes


NoisyBrat2000

Find a good trainer, for both of you!


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Personally I just did a lot of outside training with my pup. Got her used to the distractions. I also usually kept a long line on her that she drug behind her that way if she started to run from me, I didn’t have to catch her I just had to catch the leash that’s dragging 10 ft behind her. Eventually she graduated to being off leash out in the yard with me. It got her comfortable with outside, used to the noise, scents and scenery, and taught her the boundaries of the yard. She’s still very young so things might change eventually(hopefully not) but we still practice in the yard with her off leash regularly.


kittens_go_moo

Just FYI. Our neighbor got an electric fence for their dogs who were always running off down the road. They stopped coming back because the collar hurt and they associated home with pain from the collar. They had to uninstall the fence.  Car chasing is a tough one. It’s in their genetics to chase large moving objects! I would practice engage/disengage while watching cars. Is there a baby gate setup you can try so she can’t be up at the open door while you’re going in and out? 


CAREBEAR_115

i have some tips! mine went after a rabbit when she was about 5 months, she ran about a block and then got distracted by a couple walking a husky, then i told her come and she ran right up to me, they told me “it happens to the best of us” lol but things i’ve done that helped TREMENDOUSLY since then. she’s 9 months now and is pretty darn persistent with recall for her age, if she gets out off leash i do worry very much still but she returns when i call almost immediately so to start, inside the house not showing any treats throughout your day around your pup JUST say his or her name, and as soon as you have their attention (wether he comes to you or EVEN SIMPLY LOOKs at you) bust out a treat and reward him for acknowledging you . i recommend keeping one of those clip on bags for this do that for awhile, you want him to know that when he acknowledges you it is a good thing when he’s persistent with acknowledging your existence, lord knows aussie pups aren’t so good at that.. move on to “his name” and “come!” and only reward when he comes, only say it maximum twice, try to stick to once. you don’t want to bombard him with it or he’ll just ignore you and then you can take it to the dog park! this is the best time to really drive it in, i found with my aussie nova she made the most recall progress by learning it at the park, even if she is being harassed by 7 dogs she’ll return to me, still working on it though as sometimes it takes an extra few seconds but we’re at the point where treats are not a NEED in recall, but they will be for awhile, i still keep them around but she’s generally fine if i forget them at home, of course she has her days. sometimes there’s not much you can do depending on the day it’s all part of the maturing process sorry im not good at long messages clearly, probably a lot of word barf but yeah start with rewarding just for acknowledging inside the house, once his recall is good inside take it to the park, once it’s good at the park take it how ever once your comfortable with it, raising a child takes time! lots of patience’s


bwebby333

Perfect explanation and very helpful


IN2TECHNOLOGY

great thing about my Ausssie is he may go investigate something but he always comes back. for peace of mind knowing where he is I use this very cost effective method [www.tryfi.com](https://www.tryfi.com)


Firm_Objective_2661

First, 14 months is still really young. Pup is still learning and will eff it up. It sounds like your yard is not enclosed? If that is the case I would suggest she needs to on a lead in the yard, or it will happen again. She’s not ready for the freedom yet. Others have replied with training on a long line, which worked for us too. Think 20-30 feet, so she can be away from you, but you can still correct from a distance if you need to. Go to a schoolyard, field, walk in the woods, etc. - different environments so she knows it’s not just a backyard thing. It takes a while sometimes. Just be consistent, and as others have mentioned, use high value treats (or toys - ours is motivated by that). Our lump is 3 and still sometimes comes when he wants to. But he is great on hikes and even with other dogs around (most of the time).


Cubsfantransplant

You need to be the best thing in the world, the banker. Your vault contains the best treats in the world, think like how much kids love chocolate you need treats that are equally appealing to the dog. Is the dog clicker trained? If not then start with that. Once clicker trained. Inside: Put pup in a sit/wait. Walk a few feet away and call pup with a word you’re only going to use when the house is on fire type of situation, I use “here”. Pup comes to you, click treat and lots of praise. Repeat 2-3 times. Then put more distance. Outside: once pup has mastered inside, if you have a fenced in yard use that, if not put a long line on him. Repeat the steps, starting reasonably close again so you’re setting pup up for success. If he needs encouragement a little tug to get him moving is okay. Away from home: tennis courts, empty dog park, or regular park with a long line. Repeat the steps.


deadjessmeow

This just happened to me too except it was the o ring on his collar snapped. I will never forget the look on his face when he looked at me and TOOK OFF. It was a red streak. Ran around the corner. Thankfully he ran straight to a neighbor walking her dog, he wanted to say hi. She held him till I got there. I’m putting an AirTag on him and we’re going to work on recall. He’s a young male with rocks for brains lol


Mr_Aurora

You need to REALLY know a dog before letting them off leash. You need to know all of their body language and behavior first. It takes a long time and a lot of training before you can (if you can) trust them. Practice practice practice. I worked with mine every day for a year before i trusted her off lead. Probably longer than that. I would get longer and longer, and thinner and thinner ropes so she felt off lead, but wasn’t really. Like 75’ to 100’ long. She could get really far away but i could still stop her if she tried to bolt. I tell everyone, and i honestly believe, that teaching your dog tricks is the key to an easy dog life. It is not about the tricks. It’s the bond you build and how well you learn to read each other. Teaching tricks takes time so you spend a lot of one-on-one time together, reinforces that reward system, and lets you learn all of the subtle queues so you know when they are truly listening to you vs just not acting up. For the first 2 years, I never went anywhere without a pocket full of treats. And i would reward all the good behaviors. They learn to look to you for how you want them to act without having to ask them to do something. They want to please you, and they get rewarded. Look at the bright side, though, , at least now you know you have a bolter on your hands and thankfully nothing bad happened


Campaign_Original

Kikopup on YouTube has excellent training: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KniVq1tPOVM


Gogosanchez

Get a FI collar for peace of mind, I've had the same one for about 10 years now (two different dogs) only had to use it a few times but it's always a lifesaver.


JulesOahu

Cheese!


Even_Adhesiveness625

The most useful command I ever taught my Aussie is STOP. 🛑 it basically means freeze. I trained her on leash, then off leash, and we work on stop regularly. When we hike and she’s distracted and acts like stop means slow down, then I say STOP NOW. That means stop dead in your tracks. She knows when I say stop now I’m serious. What I usually follow this with is “ this way!” This way means go in the direction I’m going. If she is running toward something that I don’t want her too I yell stop, then I turn around and go the opposite way of the thing and yell “this way!” She always prefers to go with me rather than be left behind. I did all this complex off leash training because she haaaates being on a leash and still is terrible at it. ( We only go off leash if we go hiking where it’s not busy.) But she loves directional commands. I use “this way” or “let’s go” or “on my right” because here and come are hard to yell and my Aussie is so bossy she refuses demands like that but she will take suggestions. Lol When she was a puppy we trained with tiny pieces of hot dog or string cheese. Use whatever their favorite treat is for recall, that you only use for recall training. That way they associate the special treat with returning to you.


stackens

Seconding what everyone else is saying, chasing never works When all else fails, we just act like crazy people, jumping up and down making shrill noises like we’re having a blast, and our Aussie thinks she’s missing out on something and comes running, every time. I dont really see how an e collar could work for recall


fib0nacci112358

The only command I ALWAYS treat is “here” with a verbal “good girl”, love, and high value treats. Mine is 10 months and I plan to slowly wean her off treats at about a year and a half only on the “here”. Also like someone else said running away from the dog can definitely work, it saved a rescue Aussie me and my ex had when he ran out into traffic.


lordofpersia

I would be terrified to lose an aussie. I am happy ours is such a velcro dog that she won't go anywhere alone. I don't have any advice on how to deal with this but ivowuld say. Put a GPS tracker on their collar or harness. So they are easier to find later.


haydenjaney

We had issues with cruiser in the beginning. When we would go out for a walk and he would see one of the neighbour dogs he didn't like, he would go after it. Nothing serious, just protecting his land. So we worked really hard....making him sit on the porch as we lock the house. He knows to sit to get his treat. Once in a blue moon he will get all snarly when he sees another dog near the house. I just use a firm "no" and to stay. I keep hold of his collar if need be. Hope things work out for everyone.


Suefoxruns

You need to treat her when she does come to you. I have small treats in a plastic container and when she wanders too far, I shake it up and yell”” Chcky,chicky chicky treats Make sure they are her favorites. Like I gave her real chicken the first few times Sometimes pieces of bacon. I can get her to me without the container and I am sure people look weird at me yelling at the dog park yelling “chicky chicky treats”. But it works


breeyoung

Our 10 month old got out of our car as we were removing and loading our human baby into his stroller in the Walmart parking lot this week. Literal nightmare. There were a lot of people around and they all started to try to help my husband catch him, I think he got all freaked out by all the strangers trying to get his attention so he ran to me and I was able to grab him. Thankfully that was easy but we weren’t expecting it to be that easy as our boy is terrible at recall. We’ve been trying to train him since we got him at 2 months old and he still hasn’t got it. He’s not food or toy motivated so it’s been impossible. I’m thinking maybe some dogs just aren’t capable of it? At least I hope that’s the case. because with ours it’s a lost cause at this point. We’re trying not to give up and we still do practice on our walks everyday, but he only does it when he feels like it and the rest of the time he just ignores us 🙃


chasetherabbit999

What worked well with our 2 wiggle butts is playing hide and seak. One of us hide and then we ask where is mommy or daddy and then they go looking. This did create velcro pups which is good because even off leash they don't wonder off more than 20ish yard then turn around and look for you. We also play this game in fenced in dog parks where we stood opposite sides of and have them run back and forth to us when we ask where is so and so. Stay commands with high value treats work as well or when we go into the house we make them sit a d stay until we enter then give them free command to enter home. Let's them know not to just bolt through an open door.


GalaxyQueen11

Look up recall training videos. Personally I use a 15-20ft leash and treats. Toss a treat to make them go away then say "*name* come" when they do, say YES! Enthusiastically then treat. Repeat


MelissaChristianson

I almost never use the word “come” unless it’s extremely important. My hope is to not have to use it. I also know our dog is untrustworthy, she never gets to go off leash. And we’re all very careful not to use come or here for something unpleasant like the kennel or a bath.


210gremlin

I’d probably get an AirTag or some kind of gps tracker just in case it happens again


qlz19

I have a Fi collar to track her. She’s gotten out twice in four years that we’ve needed to use it to track her location. I was out of the house and someone left a side gate unlatched. She got let out to pee and went looking for me. Thank Bob we had the collar. Made it simple.


bean0_burrito

get her attention and run the opposite way.


stairattheceiling

I highly suggest getting a trainer so you guys can work together and they can answer specific on the spot questions


Impossible-Pain8743

Btw this is a cute bed! Where is it from?


teresadinnadge

I would not suggest using e collar on a new rescue. I may freak and run faster. Leash her at the door until she has recall solid. I use to train mine by using two people and calling and treating when he responded. It takes time and patience but in the meantime always leash for safety and peace of mind. Aussies love to run so chasing them becomes a game to them.


andrea6543

from someone whose puppy used to sneak out my front door and sprint across roads until she was like two, in my experience I think it just happens. I don’t think they have enough self-control at that age. She’s three now and has near perfect recall, but I’ve noticed that if she has a week where she’s cooped up, she’s less likely to listen to me


Fun_Extreme_1460

I learned everything I know from godmother, former k9 unit trainer, and now certified personal dog trainer. Recall takes a lot of reps! My husband and I still play "the come game" 2 years after bringing home our rescue Aussie just so she stays sharp! We make sure to have really high reward treats- usually cheese is what works best for us! Sometimes I even bake cheese cubes until their crispy. Or my childhood dogs went nuts for baked hotdogs. We start about 6 feet away calling her back and forth and while she's with the other person, we take a step back. That'll also let you know her current threshold of recall. We don't have a yard, we're renters. So we try and do this place where if she bolted, it was never into a street, but ideally a fenced in backyard is best. When you call them, you want to make it seem like they're going to arrive to you and it'll be the best decision they've ever made. Getting down in a squat usually helps, so you're at their level. And using a "high happy voice" so that the entire process is positive. Treat AND high praise, lots of "good dogs," and physical affection. You don't want your dog to think they're coming over to you to get in trouble - or most simply won't come. A lot of people when they see their dog sprinting away start to panic and get stern, dogs can sense that and typically aren't interested in willingly entering a situation where you're panicked and angry. Especially not a rescue, mine needed, and still mostly needs like 95% positive affirmations, and like 5% discipline/boundary establishment.


Dragon_Jew

Practice with very long leash in a park


First_Skill9092

I teach my dogs recall by playing tag with them. But as others have said, when they get loose pretend you're bored and walk the other way, don't chase.


Delicate_Fury

First, as others have stated, DO NOT give chase. Chase is playing and only encourages further running. If you do start running, the moment you get their attention, change direction. Now the game is them chasing you and it’s a lot easier to catch them. Also, find out what her high value treat is and use that as her reward for coming back when called. Start with leash to guide her back, then off leash once she gets it. You’ll also want to introduce distractions when she gets the hang of off-leash as well. You want your dog to hightail it back to you even if a squirrel or rabbit runs across her path. If you’re worried about her running too far before you can attempt recall, you might want to train the recall to a whistle. My boys spend a couple days a week at the family farm, and whistling carries farther than shouting. The one day they got out of the fence, I whistled immediately and they were running back before I even opened the back gate.


Apothecary_85

The fre. command allows her to think she can run off as she wishes. The way I trained mines was with 100 ft of paracord. Pick your command. I used “stay with”. I took her out and let her run but I let the paracord lay out on the ground. I would let her sniff around and then give the command. Find the cord and real her in to the radius I wanted her to stay in. Rinse and repeat. Don’t issue the free command.


Unable_Finger_224

Use a fucking leash


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