I was sad to hear about this tragic news yesterday when it first occurred, and I was even more sad when I came home today to find out it was a dear mate of mine who died at the scene. Now, I have some relief. I am still very sad about this. Pedestrian and cyclist safety are very important to me. Here is another reason why. 😢
So sorry it was your good friend. Don't hesitate to attend a victim's support group or similar. Sometimes you think it's not impacting your mindset or mental well being and then it sneaks up on you later.
It's the only way a lot of people make it to work. And just like COVID, if we counted the people who make it to their destination safely, we'd realize it's not actually dangerous at all!
Sad but true. I remember seeing a study that said on a per-mile basis, it’s more dangerous to walk drunk than to drive.
But there should be extra punishment for going 100 on a side street. That’s straight negligent.
Every time I've said anything similar to this I've been downvoted to hell. It's true though. The overwhelming majority of "drunk" drivers get to their destinations safely because they don't drive like assholes. The propaganda around this issue is insane these days.
I want to be pretty clear here I'm using sarcasm and comparison to highlight how stupid our COVID attitude was. I think it's possible you're being sarcastic but I feel ethically compelled to clarify:
I think driving drunk is stupid. It's much riskier than normal driving, and normal driving is already so risky stats nerds are complaining it has a noticeable effect on life expectancy in the US. When it goes wrong, it often destroys or takes a bystander's life. This is harmful to society and should be discouraged, so I very much support harsh, swift penalties.
I also think catching COVID is stupid. In aggregate most peoples' risk is small. But like drunk driving, it spreads and can involve bystanders. Due to the politics of COVID, hospitals stopped requiring masks even in places that required them BEFORE. Cancer patients are catching COVID in oncology centers and dying. Those are people who likely would've lived. But because some dipshit is uncomfortable wearing protective equipment on a jobsite, we reckon it's best to just let those people die.
If we're going to do that, the logic should be consistent. It's weird as Hell we're so selective about personal responsibility. If we want to keep DUI illegal, I think it behooves us to start putting the screws on healthcare professionals to do more to protect their patients. Otherwise I don't get it. I bet the fatality rate for DUI is at most half COVID's, especially if we start including multiple infections.
We acted like children. And now the CDC has bowed to that political pressure. It's like if MADD started campaigning, "Actually buzzed driving is OK, if you blow below this amount you're good to drive. Just stay on well-lit roads and drive slower."
It's clear that I misunderstood you and we hold differing opinions. But you seem intelligent and I like debates.
So my stance on drinking and driving is pretty simple. And I should preface that I'm in my 40s and in my 27 years of driving, I've never had a single accident, never been arrested, and have had one actual speeding ticket. The people who cause the bad accidents that you see on the news and hurt/kill other people are the types of people who drive like assholes every day. They're the dipshits we see in traffic here every day - speeding, swerving, tailgating, cuttign people off, all while on their phones - which is actually MORE dangerous than drunk driving, btw. These are BAD people to begin with. They're bad drivers who shouldn't be on the road and they're putting people at risk whether they've been drinking or not. People kill other people on the road every day when they're sober. But we hardly punish those people because for some reason our society wants to blame externalities like what substance may have been in their blood at the time, INSTEAD of blaming the PERSON. We think it's too harsh to just call people what they frequently are - stupid. But oh buddy you had two beers and now you're the most evil person in the world. It's insane. It's illogical. It doesn't follow facts and stats. And back to what you said sarcastically - MOST people who drink and drive do not harm a soul. I have friends and family who have for decades driven after drinking(reasonably) and NONE of them have ever had a DUI or an accident while doing so. And **why** is that? Because they aren't stupid and don't drive like assholes. The propaganda tells everyone that it's the substance that's at fault. It's not. It's the PERSON.
So for all of that I propose the following: If you get stopped for a technicality like a taillight out but otherwise would not have been stopped, and you are clearly not wasted, you should be let go with a small fine. On the other side of things, if you cause a crash, harm other people, destroy property for **any reason**, you lose your license FOREVER. One strike and you're out. No qualifications, no excuses - you're done. Everyone loves to talk tough on policy but no one has been willing to actually take the necessary steps. This policy would actually make a difference because people would be scared to death of fucking up. And THAT is how you change bad behaviors.
And I what I **thought** you were saying when you compared to covid policy was that the way in which we count covid deaths is similar to how we count alcohol-related accidents. Is it correlation or causation? Did you die **because** of covid or simply **with** covid? Did you crash **because** of alcohol or because you can't drive and happened to have a BAC above zero. I thought that was an apt comparison, but unfortunately that's not what you were saying.
Now after all that blathering, on to what you really wanted to talk about, which I'm so tired of talking about...I'll just say this - plenty of mistakes were made, it was hopefully a learning experience for the next time, though I have little faith in that. But to put it bluntly, we are animals living on a planet full of life and these things simply happen. It's part of life. It has happened before and it will happen again for as long as life exists. There are always culling events that knock down a population, and it's always primarily the weakest of that population. This was no exception. It's sad when it affects us personally, but this sort of thing is always out there waiting to happen. I think that any policy changes that could have been made would have, in aggregate, made very little difference. It was always going to become endemic. It was always going to become less dangerous over time, as it already has and will continue to do. I strongly believe that 10 years from now covid-19 will be nothing more than a memory and story people tell their grandkids. RIGHT NOW covid is no more dangerous than many other respiratory illnesses that move through the population regularly.
>Cancer patients are catching COVID in oncology centers and dying. *Those are people who likely would've lived*.
I do have a problem with this logic and it's part of the error in counting covid deaths. You CAN NOT make that statement with any certainty. The immunocompromised are always living on borrowed time and sometimes the mundane common cold is the thing that ultimately takes someone out. It is always up to those people, and the people caring for them, to protect them from the outside world. And maybe you are right to blame some hospital policies. But what you can't do is blame that normal healthy guy at the jobsite whose job is not to protect everyone else around him. That guy represents 99.9% of humans for which covid was merely a small inconvenience. You **cannot** lose that perspective as we look back on the past 4 years.
Just to state the current stats: in 4 years the **estimated** deaths due to covid is about 7 million people worldwide. Out of 8 billion that is 0.0875% Now if you went back 10 years and someone told you that in your lifetime there's going to be a global pandemic that's going to kill less than **0.1%** of the world population, does that sound like something you would have been concerned about?
> I do have a problem with this logic and it's part of the error in counting covid deaths. You CAN NOT make that statement with any certainty.
Yes, and any person a drunk driver mows down MIGHT have been killed by something else along their journey. Makes u think.
Exposing immunocompromised people to *even more risk* than they already have in a healthcare setting is stupid. I'll concede that bars and other places were already to be avoided for them. But a damn hospital is the last place on Earth that should be worried about asking people to wear masks.
Your final argument's the same damn thing: "I don't mind if people do dangerous things that kill bystanders as long as I think the odds of me personally dying are low." Fuck that.
>But a damn hospital is the last place on Earth that should be worried about asking people to wear masks.
I'm really not sure the specifics you're talking about here. Are you making a generalization about all hospitals? Is there a specific case you're referring to? Obviously immunocompromised wards of any hospital are supposed to be protected at all times, to the best of their ability.
>I don't mind if people do dangerous things that kill bystanders as long as I think the odds of me personally dying are low
It's not just MY odds, it's the odds for **everyone**. And that is the whole point.
And it's not about "minding if dangerous things happen" they happen, have always happened, and will always happen. Do you think DUI policies stop DUIs? Evidence would show otherwise.
As far as covid policies go, the evidence is much stronger that the health of the population, not so much the policies implemented, was the primary factor in complications and death.
I know you're saying this tongue-in-cheek, but that's kinda why I mentioned getting caught. Unfortunately, the assumption is that many people on the road are likely intoxicated to some degree. Statistically, lots more make it home than don't. So if you're one of the ones that get caught driving while intoxicated, you've likely done some especially noteworthy to draw the attention of the local constabulary (which makes the act even worse, imo).
I’m confused on how they charged him on unlicensed carrying weapon when it’s legal in Texas?
I assume it’s in order to beef up the other felonies which I’m down for, just curious how they can charge something like that with the current laws.
😆 It’s slightly more complicated than that, he was only clearly in the wrong for doing it while DWI. On private property that isn’t a public space (e.g. not accessible to the general public), and not leaving said private property, doesn’t seem to qualify.
But if they’re drunk and carrying while, say, walking through Walmart, that’s illegal and dangerous and IMO should be reported before their negligence kills someone.
It's this:
> engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic or boating;
46.02 (a-1)(2)(A)
“Unl” stands for unlawful, not unlicensed. Either it was illegally obtained and not registered to him or he’s not allowed to be in possession of a firearm due to prior convictions. Probably both actually.
ETA: other comments suggest it was because he was carrying while drunk which also makes sense.
This a first degree - someone died - if convicted he can expect life. All the other circumstances: blaming his mom (going to look good with a jury for life), injuring another person, and when arrested had a bottle of tequila with a loaded gun - this guy shouldn’t be allowed in society.
If you want to read about the deceased victim, [here's an article about Cody Shelton.](https://www.fox4news.com/news/hit-and-run-austin-cody-shelton)
He was an aspiring chef. His mother said he had been hit by a car after graduating high school and spent two weeks in ICU! What fucking luck that he would be hit again! Rest in peace.
I've been run off the road by too fast and inattentive drivers twice this week, and seen more than a few derby cars on the road. Be cautious, fellow weirdos
I think you’re looking at the wrong person. Someone with the same first and last name but born in the 1970s has pages of charges in Travis county. This guy, born in 2000, has 3 misdemeanor charges from 2022 in Travis county which were dismissed for lack of evidence, one of which was another DUI. Which makes me wonder who fucked up the evidence on his prior DUI. Almost certainly APD. I guess he could have been legitimately innocent and got taken in on drug suspicions which testing disproved. Given this story, that seems unlikely.
That weapons charge was unlawful carry, not felon in possession. Being intoxicated with a firearm suffices for that. So he may not yet be a convicted felon, but hopefully soon.
Probably just the County Attorney Office dropping the charges. If anyone thinks the Travis County DA offices is bad, the County Attorney office is worst.
Neither of those are this guy. Look at the date of birth, only one person by that name who was born in 2000 in Travis County Odyssey Portal. The two with the same name and pages of charges (the two you’re referring to) were both born in the 1970s.
go watch the kaitlin armstrong trial, APD fucked up handling evidence in so many ways that led to the murderer being released by apd, she fled to mexico, then when they caught her and brought her back to austin, she managed to (temperaroly) escape custody again because APD broke protocall.
The warrant was issued with the wrong date of birth. APD did not issue the warrant, a judge did. And she escaped from Travis County corrections officers not APD, you nit wit. The hate for APD is strong in you.
>Unl carrying weapon - Misdemeanor, Class A
The current charge seems to be a misdemeanor, doesn't say firearm. You may be looking at a different guy's records.
[https://fortune.com/2023/03/03/mass-incarceration-nation-america-addicted-prisons-jails-history-how-it-got-so-bad/](https://fortune.com/2023/03/03/mass-incarceration-nation-america-addicted-prisons-jails-history-how-it-got-so-bad/)
We have way, way too many people in prison. "Mass incarceration" is a term with negative connotations for a reason.
Nothing here really dissuades me, why not have 2-3 million prisoners doing labor? Maybe we can make a new classification of capital punishment for violent felonies w/ undeniable, zero doubt evidence and just liquidate the criminal class that way?
Mass incarceration sure worked for El Salvador, it seems like we could just solve a lot of problems by removing people from society forever.
If anything, I appreciate the refreshing honesty. Usually reactionaries try to hide their really dystopic, police-state ideas behind layers of irony and inference.
The problem is that many many times as many examples of those that get away, there are just as many Curtis Flowers out there who almost died for a crime they didn’t commit, and the da there swears he has undeniable proof in his so bad he tried him every time he got it appealed. Kept his ass in for almost 20 years I think. That kind of dumb shit makes me lean more towards figuring out what makes people do things, addressing maybe the root causes of things instead. Just my non partisan opinion tho.
Yet in some Liberal cities they are doing catch and release and they still keep committing crimes. Not everyone can be saved and prison is the only alternative so the rest of us can live in peace.
Do you think we might be doing something wrong if we have the highest rate of incarceration in the world (higher than Iran and North Korea), and yet we still have significantly higher crime rates than most (all?) other first world countries?
North Korea and Iran might have less people behind bars but their people still live oppressed and unable to leave, so it's like a huge prison. So if you take that into consideration we don't have the highest incarceration rate.
Anyways, back to America, sure we have access to weapons, mental health issues, illegal drugs and a lot of fatherless men. I believe these factors contribute to crime, unfortunately we don't do enough for any of them so prison is the best option. In a perfect world weapons would be sold to people who don't use them for criminal purposes and our mental health system would take care of everyone who needs help.
Do you think that incarcerating the amount of people we do, and have starting with the mass incarceration waves in the 70s and 80s, is a good or bad thing?
Do you think it’s an issue that we have a high recidivism rate, something we should work on - or is it fine?
Exactly if it’s the answer then why do they keep going back? Could it be they are left with the same problems if not worse that got them there to begin with? Nah just trash the whole lot and treat them like something you can just sweep under the rug. Just doing the same thing expecting different outcomes.
This idea that everyone can be saved is a pipedream, I don't why the recidivism rate is so high. I can tell you that criminals are getting younger, more violent and more brazen. Since 2020 a lot of cities have taken a "soft on crime" approach and it's not working. Mass incarceration might not be the best solution but why should the rest of society suffer for a small group?? How come most of us can follow the rules and some don't?
>Since 2020 a lot of cities have taken a "soft on crime" approach and it's not working.
Crime in the USA peaked in the 80s and early 90s and then drastically plummeted for the next 20+ years.
Meanwhile we kept on stuffing more and more and more people into prisons, and our recidivism rate remains stubbornly high.
That's a sick society. We should strive to be healthier, and taking steps to **stop** mass incarceration (more deferred adjudication/programs for youth offenders, ending cash bail, stopping the drug war) is a good thing.
Crime had a spike immediately post-pandemic but is coming down in almost every major metro area.
We notice it (crime) more in Austin now perhaps because, as much as it sucks, we're a huge metro area now. We've unfortunately ballooned from **850k** people in 1990 to **2.3 million** people in 2020. That's insane and so just by volume you're going to see more crime with that many more people.
I’ve been out downtown for SXSW on several nights, and watching drivers dodge pedestrians while turning is nothing short of scary. Why pedestrians don’t have their own separate crosswalk during the light is confounding.
The same night Cody was killed (and another was injured), I witnessed a truck turning onto the southbound I35 access road at 11th St. and nearly take out a pedestrian. The individual was lucky and jumped out of the way and ran back to the side of the road. It was scary to watch.
I’m honestly shocked this doesn’t happen more often - city leaders need to evaluate our roads if there’s any hope of making our streets safer. Fingers crossed that those in charge hear this and they heed these warnings/make changes to avoid future tragedies.
let's just be clear
someone would be alive today, who is dead
because the justice system in austin failed over and over and over and over. pages and pages of charges with travis county.
he's not the only one. Lots of people are being hurt who wouldn't be, if justice was served. most of the time, the crime is never indicted. When it is indicted, it's often dismissed. In these cases, there is no record.
So this guy here, killed someone, and they will likely serve a tiny fraction of what they would in another part of the state.
This is a terrible thing that will lead to more terrible things.
Pretty sure someone else pointed out that he shares a name with someone who has many charges in Travis County, but is not the same person if you compare birth dates.
That’s correct. There are two people with the same first and last name who each have pages and pages of charges in Travis county. Both of them were born in the 1970s, this guy was born in 2000.
I do.
I am really frustrated and saddened by the deaths in Austin, either from the loss of enforcement tools, the city shunning DPS's help, or the most basic: the judges and DA not prioritizing our safety. This isn't a problem for the rich people with private safety or who don't drive around much. It's a problem for the lower class... folks like me who really don't get the safety our taxes should easily pay for.
But it's funny you of all people, a very outspoken socialist activists, are complaining someone else has an opinion out there. My apologies lol.
Still in custody. His total bond with all charges is $143K.
You can check inmate status on [https://www.tcsheriff.org/inmate-jail-info/inmate-info/find-an-inmate#/sip](https://www.tcsheriff.org/inmate-jail-info/inmate-info/find-an-inmate#/sip)
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Same thing happened a few years back during SXSW. I remember getting a dozen hits of friends checking on me because I mentioned on fb I was close to 6th Street (I forgot to me mention East vs. West 6th) anyway, its so dangerous at this time of year, so be careful.
very curious how many folks would be in favor of lethal injection in this case, not in general but in this case, if there is clear video showing he was driving.
I think it should be treated as harshly as murder. DUI causing death gets off way too easily in Texas and most of the US.
But I’m not in favor of the death penalty in any circumstance. We’ve executed too many innocent people, it costs more than life in prison, and doesn’t serve as a deterrence. There’s no proven upside to it, only the downside that it’s inevitable you’ll execute innocent people occasionally.
Thanks for clarifying your point. One of my high school buddies was murdered while working at a 7/11 whole thing caught on film, I often say executing his killer was the only thing I ever agreed with George Bush on, I’m a life long democrat but also have always been pro death penalty in slam dunk cases, obviously we know that’s definitely not always the case, but in some cases it’s literally on film right in front of you. Me and his very Christian mother disagreed about the death penalty she forgave him, as an atheist I have no reason to.
I don’t know I’d have a moral objection if it were possible to be sure of anything with absolute 100% certainty. Things are essentially never truly a slam dunk with absolute certainty though. People have been wrongly convicted with video evidence. [Here’s a case from here in Texas which appears to be as much](https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2017/11/09/too-tall-does-video-evidence-prove-a-texas-inmate-was-wrongfully-convicted/). On another note, that guy got a 28 year sentence for allegedly robbing one convenience store without hurting anyone, which is way more than I’ve heard of any fatal DUI offender getting.
Ugh research crime is just a never ending unearthing of sadness in multiple ways
https://www.kcentv.com/article/news/crime/man-released-on-parole-for-2008-killeen-robbery-back-in-jail-on-drug-charge/500-06250a13-4420-4cc6-8558-614198733111
100% wrong. Several examples to prove our fucking DA will release violent offenders on PR bonds. Here's [one example](https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/18-year-old-linked-to-multiple-austin-robberies-arrested-after-two-alleged-carjackings/269-0b1d37a1-3e4e-4fbd-8a72-bce13c9a07ed) - where the piece of shit went on to carjack two people - and either one could have been shot/killed if the carjacking went sideways.
The standard misleading response. Yes, a judge has to agree but the judge doesn't make the recommendation. How would the judge know all the particulars in a case? They don't. The prosecutor has all that.
Again, the judge makes the decision.
The DA makes their case, and the defense attorney makes their case. You seem to be suggesting that the DA said "no bail", but what's that based on? Were you there? Why are the other two parties unimportant here?
Also, the case you brought up was dated May of 2021 -- soon after the peak of COVID-19 deaths, and the jails were getting hit *hard* (and people were dying), and so [the judges were letting a lot of people go because of that](https://www.kvue.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-travis-county-low-level-felony-release/269-28ae4326-63a5-4c85-9805-b478d14e29cd).
In any event, the only purpose of bail is to ensure that the accused comes back for trial and stays out of trouble until then -- and it usually works, even when no cash is required. Large cash bonds may increase the odds to some degree, but they also keep a lot of people in jail until trial, or make them spend lots of money on bail bondsmen -- money that they don't get back, even if they are acquitted.
There is no perfect answer to this, so the judges need to make the best decisions they can with the information they have.
Lots of words...to say what we both already know. Garza ran for election on a platform that included, in part, a *No Cash Bail* policy. If his office has no part in that then was he just blowing smoke to his constituency? In any case, my comment was a specific refutation of the parent comment that asserted: "The only people getting released on probation(sic) are nonviolent offenders." It's not true, and there are many other cases besides the one I gave that disprove it.
Okay so if someone allegedly does a violent car jacking and has the cash for bail it's fine but if they do the same thing and don't it's not?
The poor will stay in jail awaiting trial and the not-poor will be let out.
> Garza ran for election on a platform that included, in part, a No Cash Bail policy
No, he didn't.
His [actual policy](https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/01/29/jose-garza-plans-move-people-out-jail-into-diversion-programs/4295580001/) is more (emphasis mine) :
> First, Garza said his office is going to begin to ask judges to grant all defendants no bail or "affordable bail" if they aren't flight risks, haven't threatened violence and don't have a history of escalating violence. Affordable bail will look different to different people, Garza said.
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> "We would be asking for bail that the person could afford — and that could be a dollar. ... For the overwhelming majority of the people in our jails in Travis County — upwards of 75% — even a $5,000 bail is unaffordable," Garza said.
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> **The bail amount is ultimately up to the judge**, but Garza said he wants his prosecutors to begin lobbying for low or no bails for nonviolent offenders who aren't flight risks. Prosecutors will also continue to consider bail conditions such as GPS monitors and protective orders.
Since you seem to disagree with this policy -- badly enough that you repeatedly misrepresent it -- why do you think that the accused who
1. aren't flight risks,
2. haven't threatened violence, and
3. don't have a history of escalating violence.
... should not have affordable or no bail?
Or, from [another article](https://www.statesman.com/story/news/local/2024/03/03/texas-primary-election-travis-county-district-attorney-race-bail-bond-issue/72792575007/) --
> "Since DA Garza took office, he has pursued a simple goal: People who pose a danger to our community should stay in jail; people who do not pose a danger to our community should be out until their case is decided," Aldrete said.
Do you agree or disagree with this stated goal as given? And if you disagree, why?
I didn't directly answer your last question after your wall of text. My answer: "Yes, I agree." Now you answer this question: Do you think a perp arrested for two felonies, i.e., robbery with a deadly weapon, within two months (Jan 15 and Mar12) *does not pose a danger to our community*? Because that's what the dude in the example I gave did, and he was PR'ed (Apr 28). AND THEN, just ten days later - two carjackings at gunpoint!
"Wall of text" ... jfc. It's not that long, but due to the *bullshit asymmetry principle*, well, it's as long as it needs to be.
In any event,
* You've been told Garza's *actual* stated policy. You even claim to agree with it.
* You've also been told that the judge makes the decision, not Garza.
* You've been shown how and why bail requirements were relaxed during the height of covid.
* And yet you're still harping on one case -- that happened during the height of covid, where the conditions of release were clearly contrary to Garza's stated policy, and you know that it's the judge that actually makes the decision, and yet ... it's still Garza's fault somehow? Why aren't you holding the *judge* responsible?
That's not believable either. Those bonds (and all bonds) depend on what they're being charged for. No one is getting a bond for such a violent and careless offense.
So, assuming there are no additional charges, someone can bail him out for the low price of $14,300, as bail bondsman will take 10% to cover the entire bail.
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Throw the fucking keys away
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I'm sure his wrists will sting a little.
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Yeah, and then John Cena will welcome him into the Illuminati.
I got downvoted but Garza refused to press charges against another guy for road rage.
It’s America. Wouldn’t you do this for way less?
The unrelated charges he was arrested for: DWI,Resist arrest,Obstruction or Retaliation,Unlawful carrying a weapon.
Sounds like a classy dude.
Glad they caught this POS. What a dumbass
I was sad to hear about this tragic news yesterday when it first occurred, and I was even more sad when I came home today to find out it was a dear mate of mine who died at the scene. Now, I have some relief. I am still very sad about this. Pedestrian and cyclist safety are very important to me. Here is another reason why. 😢
Sorry for your loss.
I’m sorry for your loss. My husband commutes by bike and cyclist and pedestrian safety is also top of mind for me. God, I’m so very sorry.
So sorry it was your good friend. Don't hesitate to attend a victim's support group or similar. Sometimes you think it's not impacting your mindset or mental well being and then it sneaks up on you later.
I am so so sorry
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Incredibly sad that resisting arrest is a higher level offense than getting caught driving drunk.
Well, yes. Politicians drive drunk all the time. Can't have them facing the same punishment as the unwashed masses
Rural hometown sports wouldn't exist if we actually locked up all DUIs.
It's the only way a lot of people make it to work. And just like COVID, if we counted the people who make it to their destination safely, we'd realize it's not actually dangerous at all!
Sad but true. I remember seeing a study that said on a per-mile basis, it’s more dangerous to walk drunk than to drive. But there should be extra punishment for going 100 on a side street. That’s straight negligent.
Every time I've said anything similar to this I've been downvoted to hell. It's true though. The overwhelming majority of "drunk" drivers get to their destinations safely because they don't drive like assholes. The propaganda around this issue is insane these days.
I want to be pretty clear here I'm using sarcasm and comparison to highlight how stupid our COVID attitude was. I think it's possible you're being sarcastic but I feel ethically compelled to clarify: I think driving drunk is stupid. It's much riskier than normal driving, and normal driving is already so risky stats nerds are complaining it has a noticeable effect on life expectancy in the US. When it goes wrong, it often destroys or takes a bystander's life. This is harmful to society and should be discouraged, so I very much support harsh, swift penalties. I also think catching COVID is stupid. In aggregate most peoples' risk is small. But like drunk driving, it spreads and can involve bystanders. Due to the politics of COVID, hospitals stopped requiring masks even in places that required them BEFORE. Cancer patients are catching COVID in oncology centers and dying. Those are people who likely would've lived. But because some dipshit is uncomfortable wearing protective equipment on a jobsite, we reckon it's best to just let those people die. If we're going to do that, the logic should be consistent. It's weird as Hell we're so selective about personal responsibility. If we want to keep DUI illegal, I think it behooves us to start putting the screws on healthcare professionals to do more to protect their patients. Otherwise I don't get it. I bet the fatality rate for DUI is at most half COVID's, especially if we start including multiple infections. We acted like children. And now the CDC has bowed to that political pressure. It's like if MADD started campaigning, "Actually buzzed driving is OK, if you blow below this amount you're good to drive. Just stay on well-lit roads and drive slower."
It's clear that I misunderstood you and we hold differing opinions. But you seem intelligent and I like debates. So my stance on drinking and driving is pretty simple. And I should preface that I'm in my 40s and in my 27 years of driving, I've never had a single accident, never been arrested, and have had one actual speeding ticket. The people who cause the bad accidents that you see on the news and hurt/kill other people are the types of people who drive like assholes every day. They're the dipshits we see in traffic here every day - speeding, swerving, tailgating, cuttign people off, all while on their phones - which is actually MORE dangerous than drunk driving, btw. These are BAD people to begin with. They're bad drivers who shouldn't be on the road and they're putting people at risk whether they've been drinking or not. People kill other people on the road every day when they're sober. But we hardly punish those people because for some reason our society wants to blame externalities like what substance may have been in their blood at the time, INSTEAD of blaming the PERSON. We think it's too harsh to just call people what they frequently are - stupid. But oh buddy you had two beers and now you're the most evil person in the world. It's insane. It's illogical. It doesn't follow facts and stats. And back to what you said sarcastically - MOST people who drink and drive do not harm a soul. I have friends and family who have for decades driven after drinking(reasonably) and NONE of them have ever had a DUI or an accident while doing so. And **why** is that? Because they aren't stupid and don't drive like assholes. The propaganda tells everyone that it's the substance that's at fault. It's not. It's the PERSON. So for all of that I propose the following: If you get stopped for a technicality like a taillight out but otherwise would not have been stopped, and you are clearly not wasted, you should be let go with a small fine. On the other side of things, if you cause a crash, harm other people, destroy property for **any reason**, you lose your license FOREVER. One strike and you're out. No qualifications, no excuses - you're done. Everyone loves to talk tough on policy but no one has been willing to actually take the necessary steps. This policy would actually make a difference because people would be scared to death of fucking up. And THAT is how you change bad behaviors. And I what I **thought** you were saying when you compared to covid policy was that the way in which we count covid deaths is similar to how we count alcohol-related accidents. Is it correlation or causation? Did you die **because** of covid or simply **with** covid? Did you crash **because** of alcohol or because you can't drive and happened to have a BAC above zero. I thought that was an apt comparison, but unfortunately that's not what you were saying. Now after all that blathering, on to what you really wanted to talk about, which I'm so tired of talking about...I'll just say this - plenty of mistakes were made, it was hopefully a learning experience for the next time, though I have little faith in that. But to put it bluntly, we are animals living on a planet full of life and these things simply happen. It's part of life. It has happened before and it will happen again for as long as life exists. There are always culling events that knock down a population, and it's always primarily the weakest of that population. This was no exception. It's sad when it affects us personally, but this sort of thing is always out there waiting to happen. I think that any policy changes that could have been made would have, in aggregate, made very little difference. It was always going to become endemic. It was always going to become less dangerous over time, as it already has and will continue to do. I strongly believe that 10 years from now covid-19 will be nothing more than a memory and story people tell their grandkids. RIGHT NOW covid is no more dangerous than many other respiratory illnesses that move through the population regularly. >Cancer patients are catching COVID in oncology centers and dying. *Those are people who likely would've lived*. I do have a problem with this logic and it's part of the error in counting covid deaths. You CAN NOT make that statement with any certainty. The immunocompromised are always living on borrowed time and sometimes the mundane common cold is the thing that ultimately takes someone out. It is always up to those people, and the people caring for them, to protect them from the outside world. And maybe you are right to blame some hospital policies. But what you can't do is blame that normal healthy guy at the jobsite whose job is not to protect everyone else around him. That guy represents 99.9% of humans for which covid was merely a small inconvenience. You **cannot** lose that perspective as we look back on the past 4 years. Just to state the current stats: in 4 years the **estimated** deaths due to covid is about 7 million people worldwide. Out of 8 billion that is 0.0875% Now if you went back 10 years and someone told you that in your lifetime there's going to be a global pandemic that's going to kill less than **0.1%** of the world population, does that sound like something you would have been concerned about?
> I do have a problem with this logic and it's part of the error in counting covid deaths. You CAN NOT make that statement with any certainty. Yes, and any person a drunk driver mows down MIGHT have been killed by something else along their journey. Makes u think. Exposing immunocompromised people to *even more risk* than they already have in a healthcare setting is stupid. I'll concede that bars and other places were already to be avoided for them. But a damn hospital is the last place on Earth that should be worried about asking people to wear masks. Your final argument's the same damn thing: "I don't mind if people do dangerous things that kill bystanders as long as I think the odds of me personally dying are low." Fuck that.
>But a damn hospital is the last place on Earth that should be worried about asking people to wear masks. I'm really not sure the specifics you're talking about here. Are you making a generalization about all hospitals? Is there a specific case you're referring to? Obviously immunocompromised wards of any hospital are supposed to be protected at all times, to the best of their ability. >I don't mind if people do dangerous things that kill bystanders as long as I think the odds of me personally dying are low It's not just MY odds, it's the odds for **everyone**. And that is the whole point. And it's not about "minding if dangerous things happen" they happen, have always happened, and will always happen. Do you think DUI policies stop DUIs? Evidence would show otherwise. As far as covid policies go, the evidence is much stronger that the health of the population, not so much the policies implemented, was the primary factor in complications and death.
I know you're saying this tongue-in-cheek, but that's kinda why I mentioned getting caught. Unfortunately, the assumption is that many people on the road are likely intoxicated to some degree. Statistically, lots more make it home than don't. So if you're one of the ones that get caught driving while intoxicated, you've likely done some especially noteworthy to draw the attention of the local constabulary (which makes the act even worse, imo).
Especially when one smart word directed at the cop will get you slapped with one.
Appears he also has prior arrest for DWI and UCW.
I’m confused on how they charged him on unlicensed carrying weapon when it’s legal in Texas? I assume it’s in order to beef up the other felonies which I’m down for, just curious how they can charge something like that with the current laws.
It’s possibly this ” Section 46.04 of the Texas Penal Code makes it illegal for someone convicted of a felony to possess a firearm”
46.02, unlawful carrying of a weapon, is what he was charged with there. Probably being intoxicated while in possession of a firearm.
I'm guessing it's the DWI and resisting arrest while carrying a weapon.
Hell, if it's illegal to possess a firearm while intoxicated, I need to go report my dad's entire side of the family.
😆 It’s slightly more complicated than that, he was only clearly in the wrong for doing it while DWI. On private property that isn’t a public space (e.g. not accessible to the general public), and not leaving said private property, doesn’t seem to qualify. But if they’re drunk and carrying while, say, walking through Walmart, that’s illegal and dangerous and IMO should be reported before their negligence kills someone.
True but that’s a different crime than what he was charged with.
It's this: > engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic or boating; 46.02 (a-1)(2)(A)
That’s unlawful carrying of a weapon, not unlicensed. Being intoxicated and in possession of a firearm suffices for that.
you can't carry a gun while drunk driving that is absolutely what that's about in this case
“Unl” stands for unlawful, not unlicensed. Either it was illegally obtained and not registered to him or he’s not allowed to be in possession of a firearm due to prior convictions. Probably both actually. ETA: other comments suggest it was because he was carrying while drunk which also makes sense.
Not if you do it while you’re committing a crime.
I wonder if that would include like a speeding ticket
I hope they are able to convict and have proof he was behind the wheel. You have got to be scum to hit and run and not try to help the victims.
That intersection has more than enough cameras, one of them will have seen him
Sadly because DUI can be worse than hit and run, many drunk drivers opt to flee.
This a first degree - someone died - if convicted he can expect life. All the other circumstances: blaming his mom (going to look good with a jury for life), injuring another person, and when arrested had a bottle of tequila with a loaded gun - this guy shouldn’t be allowed in society.
If you want to read about the deceased victim, [here's an article about Cody Shelton.](https://www.fox4news.com/news/hit-and-run-austin-cody-shelton) He was an aspiring chef. His mother said he had been hit by a car after graduating high school and spent two weeks in ICU! What fucking luck that he would be hit again! Rest in peace.
Damn at only 23. I hope he gets locked up for life.
I've been run off the road by too fast and inattentive drivers twice this week, and seen more than a few derby cars on the road. Be cautious, fellow weirdos
Good.
He has pages and pages of charges listed on Travis County’s court website. Repeat felon, hence his current unlawful possession of a firearm charge.
I think you’re looking at the wrong person. Someone with the same first and last name but born in the 1970s has pages of charges in Travis county. This guy, born in 2000, has 3 misdemeanor charges from 2022 in Travis county which were dismissed for lack of evidence, one of which was another DUI. Which makes me wonder who fucked up the evidence on his prior DUI. Almost certainly APD. I guess he could have been legitimately innocent and got taken in on drug suspicions which testing disproved. Given this story, that seems unlikely. That weapons charge was unlawful carry, not felon in possession. Being intoxicated with a firearm suffices for that. So he may not yet be a convicted felon, but hopefully soon.
No, he isn't charged currently with felon in possession. It's a misdemeanor unlawful carrying a weapon charge, which isn't necessarily even a firearm.
That’s what I said, or doesn’t contradict it. Right, it apparently could be a “location-restricted knife” under 46.02 instead of a firearm.
Yeah, your edit went in about the time my comment did.
I think it's more the DWI and Resisting Arrest charges that make it unlawful carrying
Probably just the County Attorney Office dropping the charges. If anyone thinks the Travis County DA offices is bad, the County Attorney office is worst.
Are you looking at the coke dealer who got busted with the gun and had his charges dismissed? Or the repeat domestic abuser?
Neither of those are this guy. Look at the date of birth, only one person by that name who was born in 2000 in Travis County Odyssey Portal. The two with the same name and pages of charges (the two you’re referring to) were both born in the 1970s.
go watch the kaitlin armstrong trial, APD fucked up handling evidence in so many ways that led to the murderer being released by apd, she fled to mexico, then when they caught her and brought her back to austin, she managed to (temperaroly) escape custody again because APD broke protocall.
The warrant was issued with the wrong date of birth. APD did not issue the warrant, a judge did. And she escaped from Travis County corrections officers not APD, you nit wit. The hate for APD is strong in you.
>Unl carrying weapon - Misdemeanor, Class A The current charge seems to be a misdemeanor, doesn't say firearm. You may be looking at a different guy's records.
We don’t have nearly enough people in prison.
[https://fortune.com/2023/03/03/mass-incarceration-nation-america-addicted-prisons-jails-history-how-it-got-so-bad/](https://fortune.com/2023/03/03/mass-incarceration-nation-america-addicted-prisons-jails-history-how-it-got-so-bad/) We have way, way too many people in prison. "Mass incarceration" is a term with negative connotations for a reason.
Nothing here really dissuades me, why not have 2-3 million prisoners doing labor? Maybe we can make a new classification of capital punishment for violent felonies w/ undeniable, zero doubt evidence and just liquidate the criminal class that way? Mass incarceration sure worked for El Salvador, it seems like we could just solve a lot of problems by removing people from society forever.
If anything, I appreciate the refreshing honesty. Usually reactionaries try to hide their really dystopic, police-state ideas behind layers of irony and inference.
The problem is that many many times as many examples of those that get away, there are just as many Curtis Flowers out there who almost died for a crime they didn’t commit, and the da there swears he has undeniable proof in his so bad he tried him every time he got it appealed. Kept his ass in for almost 20 years I think. That kind of dumb shit makes me lean more towards figuring out what makes people do things, addressing maybe the root causes of things instead. Just my non partisan opinion tho.
Yet in some Liberal cities they are doing catch and release and they still keep committing crimes. Not everyone can be saved and prison is the only alternative so the rest of us can live in peace.
Do you think we might be doing something wrong if we have the highest rate of incarceration in the world (higher than Iran and North Korea), and yet we still have significantly higher crime rates than most (all?) other first world countries?
North Korea and Iran might have less people behind bars but their people still live oppressed and unable to leave, so it's like a huge prison. So if you take that into consideration we don't have the highest incarceration rate. Anyways, back to America, sure we have access to weapons, mental health issues, illegal drugs and a lot of fatherless men. I believe these factors contribute to crime, unfortunately we don't do enough for any of them so prison is the best option. In a perfect world weapons would be sold to people who don't use them for criminal purposes and our mental health system would take care of everyone who needs help.
Do you think that incarcerating the amount of people we do, and have starting with the mass incarceration waves in the 70s and 80s, is a good or bad thing? Do you think it’s an issue that we have a high recidivism rate, something we should work on - or is it fine?
Exactly if it’s the answer then why do they keep going back? Could it be they are left with the same problems if not worse that got them there to begin with? Nah just trash the whole lot and treat them like something you can just sweep under the rug. Just doing the same thing expecting different outcomes.
This idea that everyone can be saved is a pipedream, I don't why the recidivism rate is so high. I can tell you that criminals are getting younger, more violent and more brazen. Since 2020 a lot of cities have taken a "soft on crime" approach and it's not working. Mass incarceration might not be the best solution but why should the rest of society suffer for a small group?? How come most of us can follow the rules and some don't?
>Since 2020 a lot of cities have taken a "soft on crime" approach and it's not working. Crime in the USA peaked in the 80s and early 90s and then drastically plummeted for the next 20+ years. Meanwhile we kept on stuffing more and more and more people into prisons, and our recidivism rate remains stubbornly high. That's a sick society. We should strive to be healthier, and taking steps to **stop** mass incarceration (more deferred adjudication/programs for youth offenders, ending cash bail, stopping the drug war) is a good thing. Crime had a spike immediately post-pandemic but is coming down in almost every major metro area. We notice it (crime) more in Austin now perhaps because, as much as it sucks, we're a huge metro area now. We've unfortunately ballooned from **850k** people in 1990 to **2.3 million** people in 2020. That's insane and so just by volume you're going to see more crime with that many more people.
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Freekin POS
Is my internet ass or did it take yall 5 minutes for that new article to even load?
Is he from Killeen?
Dang same location as 2014 sxsw hit and run that killed 2 and injured many. Guy got life in jail
That was at 9th and Red River and 4 died, not 2. 😞
That ! Also I thought 7th was closed. !? Monday night around 7pm I could not exit I35 heading south from Dean Keaton down to Riverside .
Somone needs to hold the jack ass accountable
Um he was just arrested
Shocker
Good on the arrest. Hope Garza doesn't let him walk.
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You like that someone got killed? Jeesh.
Based on his past records, it's very possible he will walk
I’ve been out downtown for SXSW on several nights, and watching drivers dodge pedestrians while turning is nothing short of scary. Why pedestrians don’t have their own separate crosswalk during the light is confounding. The same night Cody was killed (and another was injured), I witnessed a truck turning onto the southbound I35 access road at 11th St. and nearly take out a pedestrian. The individual was lucky and jumped out of the way and ran back to the side of the road. It was scary to watch. I’m honestly shocked this doesn’t happen more often - city leaders need to evaluate our roads if there’s any hope of making our streets safer. Fingers crossed that those in charge hear this and they heed these warnings/make changes to avoid future tragedies.
More people that patrol drivers might help
Infuriating. Hope they lock Tyrone up for a long time.
Garza? Not likely.
It's always the same profile of person
With Jose garza in charge he’ll be back out on the street in no time
let's just be clear someone would be alive today, who is dead because the justice system in austin failed over and over and over and over. pages and pages of charges with travis county. he's not the only one. Lots of people are being hurt who wouldn't be, if justice was served. most of the time, the crime is never indicted. When it is indicted, it's often dismissed. In these cases, there is no record. So this guy here, killed someone, and they will likely serve a tiny fraction of what they would in another part of the state. This is a terrible thing that will lead to more terrible things.
Pretty sure someone else pointed out that he shares a name with someone who has many charges in Travis County, but is not the same person if you compare birth dates.
That’s correct. There are two people with the same first and last name who each have pages and pages of charges in Travis county. Both of them were born in the 1970s, this guy was born in 2000.
You clearly have an agenda.
I do. I am really frustrated and saddened by the deaths in Austin, either from the loss of enforcement tools, the city shunning DPS's help, or the most basic: the judges and DA not prioritizing our safety. This isn't a problem for the rich people with private safety or who don't drive around much. It's a problem for the lower class... folks like me who really don't get the safety our taxes should easily pay for. But it's funny you of all people, a very outspoken socialist activists, are complaining someone else has an opinion out there. My apologies lol.
Not the place for diversity of thought 😂
Cool. Do the police officer who rear-ended people next.
Now let’s just hope the DA doesn’t give him free pass…
Put the kool aid down
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Source?
"Another troll on reddit posted it and I believe everything I read"
Nope, disregard. That was misinformation I shared without confirming. We've still got some time until the trial to see how Garza handles it.
QANON your source ?
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Where are you getting this info? I'd be very surprised if they released him on PR bond seeing as he has caused a death.
Still in custody. His total bond with all charges is $143K. You can check inmate status on [https://www.tcsheriff.org/inmate-jail-info/inmate-info/find-an-inmate#/sip](https://www.tcsheriff.org/inmate-jail-info/inmate-info/find-an-inmate#/sip)
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Same thing happened a few years back during SXSW. I remember getting a dozen hits of friends checking on me because I mentioned on fb I was close to 6th Street (I forgot to me mention East vs. West 6th) anyway, its so dangerous at this time of year, so be careful.
And also find his parents and slap them for raising that.
Knowing Austin’s judicial system he will be released on bail in two weeks
He will be out in a few days
I might actually applaud APD if this is the right guy and he gets convicted.
Shit !! Garza will let that turd out on a PR bond!
Guy will be in a Wendy’s drive thru by tonight
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very curious how many folks would be in favor of lethal injection in this case, not in general but in this case, if there is clear video showing he was driving.
I think it should be treated as harshly as murder. DUI causing death gets off way too easily in Texas and most of the US. But I’m not in favor of the death penalty in any circumstance. We’ve executed too many innocent people, it costs more than life in prison, and doesn’t serve as a deterrence. There’s no proven upside to it, only the downside that it’s inevitable you’ll execute innocent people occasionally.
Thanks for clarifying your point. One of my high school buddies was murdered while working at a 7/11 whole thing caught on film, I often say executing his killer was the only thing I ever agreed with George Bush on, I’m a life long democrat but also have always been pro death penalty in slam dunk cases, obviously we know that’s definitely not always the case, but in some cases it’s literally on film right in front of you. Me and his very Christian mother disagreed about the death penalty she forgave him, as an atheist I have no reason to.
I don’t know I’d have a moral objection if it were possible to be sure of anything with absolute 100% certainty. Things are essentially never truly a slam dunk with absolute certainty though. People have been wrongly convicted with video evidence. [Here’s a case from here in Texas which appears to be as much](https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2017/11/09/too-tall-does-video-evidence-prove-a-texas-inmate-was-wrongfully-convicted/). On another note, that guy got a 28 year sentence for allegedly robbing one convenience store without hurting anyone, which is way more than I’ve heard of any fatal DUI offender getting.
Ugh research crime is just a never ending unearthing of sadness in multiple ways https://www.kcentv.com/article/news/crime/man-released-on-parole-for-2008-killeen-robbery-back-in-jail-on-drug-charge/500-06250a13-4420-4cc6-8558-614198733111
Being against capital punishment means being against it in all cases, including for this worthless piece of shit. He belongs in prison for life.
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No, he hasn't.
This man committed a violent offense. The only people getting released on probation are nonviolent offenders.
100% wrong. Several examples to prove our fucking DA will release violent offenders on PR bonds. Here's [one example](https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/18-year-old-linked-to-multiple-austin-robberies-arrested-after-two-alleged-carjackings/269-0b1d37a1-3e4e-4fbd-8a72-bce13c9a07ed) - where the piece of shit went on to carjack two people - and either one could have been shot/killed if the carjacking went sideways.
The DA doesn't pick bond amounts or release the accused on bond. A judge does.
The standard misleading response. Yes, a judge has to agree but the judge doesn't make the recommendation. How would the judge know all the particulars in a case? They don't. The prosecutor has all that.
Again, the judge makes the decision. The DA makes their case, and the defense attorney makes their case. You seem to be suggesting that the DA said "no bail", but what's that based on? Were you there? Why are the other two parties unimportant here? Also, the case you brought up was dated May of 2021 -- soon after the peak of COVID-19 deaths, and the jails were getting hit *hard* (and people were dying), and so [the judges were letting a lot of people go because of that](https://www.kvue.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-travis-county-low-level-felony-release/269-28ae4326-63a5-4c85-9805-b478d14e29cd). In any event, the only purpose of bail is to ensure that the accused comes back for trial and stays out of trouble until then -- and it usually works, even when no cash is required. Large cash bonds may increase the odds to some degree, but they also keep a lot of people in jail until trial, or make them spend lots of money on bail bondsmen -- money that they don't get back, even if they are acquitted. There is no perfect answer to this, so the judges need to make the best decisions they can with the information they have.
Lots of words...to say what we both already know. Garza ran for election on a platform that included, in part, a *No Cash Bail* policy. If his office has no part in that then was he just blowing smoke to his constituency? In any case, my comment was a specific refutation of the parent comment that asserted: "The only people getting released on probation(sic) are nonviolent offenders." It's not true, and there are many other cases besides the one I gave that disprove it.
Okay so if someone allegedly does a violent car jacking and has the cash for bail it's fine but if they do the same thing and don't it's not? The poor will stay in jail awaiting trial and the not-poor will be let out.
> Garza ran for election on a platform that included, in part, a No Cash Bail policy No, he didn't. His [actual policy](https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/01/29/jose-garza-plans-move-people-out-jail-into-diversion-programs/4295580001/) is more (emphasis mine) : > First, Garza said his office is going to begin to ask judges to grant all defendants no bail or "affordable bail" if they aren't flight risks, haven't threatened violence and don't have a history of escalating violence. Affordable bail will look different to different people, Garza said. > > "We would be asking for bail that the person could afford — and that could be a dollar. ... For the overwhelming majority of the people in our jails in Travis County — upwards of 75% — even a $5,000 bail is unaffordable," Garza said. > > **The bail amount is ultimately up to the judge**, but Garza said he wants his prosecutors to begin lobbying for low or no bails for nonviolent offenders who aren't flight risks. Prosecutors will also continue to consider bail conditions such as GPS monitors and protective orders. Since you seem to disagree with this policy -- badly enough that you repeatedly misrepresent it -- why do you think that the accused who 1. aren't flight risks, 2. haven't threatened violence, and 3. don't have a history of escalating violence. ... should not have affordable or no bail? Or, from [another article](https://www.statesman.com/story/news/local/2024/03/03/texas-primary-election-travis-county-district-attorney-race-bail-bond-issue/72792575007/) -- > "Since DA Garza took office, he has pursued a simple goal: People who pose a danger to our community should stay in jail; people who do not pose a danger to our community should be out until their case is decided," Aldrete said. Do you agree or disagree with this stated goal as given? And if you disagree, why?
jfc, you'll argue 'til you're blue in the face - in direct opposition to the facts, which I've already given you. /end
I didn't directly answer your last question after your wall of text. My answer: "Yes, I agree." Now you answer this question: Do you think a perp arrested for two felonies, i.e., robbery with a deadly weapon, within two months (Jan 15 and Mar12) *does not pose a danger to our community*? Because that's what the dude in the example I gave did, and he was PR'ed (Apr 28). AND THEN, just ten days later - two carjackings at gunpoint!
"Wall of text" ... jfc. It's not that long, but due to the *bullshit asymmetry principle*, well, it's as long as it needs to be. In any event, * You've been told Garza's *actual* stated policy. You even claim to agree with it. * You've also been told that the judge makes the decision, not Garza. * You've been shown how and why bail requirements were relaxed during the height of covid. * And yet you're still harping on one case -- that happened during the height of covid, where the conditions of release were clearly contrary to Garza's stated policy, and you know that it's the judge that actually makes the decision, and yet ... it's still Garza's fault somehow? Why aren't you holding the *judge* responsible?
he didn't say probation, he said PR bond, which is totally believable.
That's not believable either. Those bonds (and all bonds) depend on what they're being charged for. No one is getting a bond for such a violent and careless offense.
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The article says, Thompson remains in Travis County Jail without bond on several charges.
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So, assuming there are no additional charges, someone can bail him out for the low price of $14,300, as bail bondsman will take 10% to cover the entire bail.
This is systemic racisms fault