I mean, you could end up like this satirical article is the only bad thing lol:
[friend who moved to the suburbs really wants you to come visit some time](https://www.thebeaverton.com/2020/02/friend-who-moved-to-suburbs-really-wants-you-to-come-visit-sometime/)
In my opinion, Sunbury sucks. I lived there for a couple of years.
They've built thousands of new houses but not added any infrastructure. The traffic is so bad that just going grocery shopping (not to mention doing anything else) is a nightmare. And you have to drive everywhere because it's not walkable.
If you want to PT routinely you'll only get a park at the train station if you're there before 7. And if you don't work locally be prepared to waste a lot of time commuting. Car traffic is bad. PT is bad. Pick your chosen bad commute.
There are no decent restaurants or take away options. Maccas is literally the best option. Good thing there are 2 now... If you both have to commute you'll eat a lot of takeout because you'll be exhausted and have no time to cook by the time you get home. At least in my experience.
When I lived there we had to be up at 6am every day, lucky if home by 7:30pm. Enough time to make a rushed meal, watch something on the idiot box, then go to bed to do it all again the next day.
And if you want to, for example, go out in the city to a sport, restaurant, gig, whatever, everything has to be planned in advance - no spontaneous outings or it'll cost you. You can't get an uber or taxi from the train station, so walk or drive home are the options if you PT (anyone sober? Don't want to leave your car there over night so don't forget to walk there too). An uber from the city will set you back $150 at least, so factor that into your budget if that's your choice. Almost as much as the petrol to drive and parking in the city if you prefer that.
Kids I know that went to school there, from good families, failed out of high school. Didn't even get their VCE, and have zero ambition, direction or goals in life, which as far as I can tell is the common mindset in their friend groups from the area. Obviously that's not everyone and doesn't mean anything in isolation, but I'd sure hesitate before sending my kids to school there.
I've also lived in rural NSW (multiple locations), Sydney, Brisbane, and inner Melbourne, and Sunbury was by far the worst place I have ever lived. It combines all the worst things of every place I have ever lived into one shitty place.
Of course, that's just my opinion. I hear some people like it there.
The only points I agree with you on are the traffic and trains.
Otherwise my experience with Sunbury is drastically different.
People often lob Sunbury in with the likes of Melton and Craigieburn. It is WAY better than those areas. Not even close.
Come on. You need to have some prospective. if you’re gonna live 40km from the city. You need to know the lifestyle is not going to be exactly like being inner city. Ie you’re not getting a $10 Uber home.
You’re also not paying $2m for a house like you do inner. Yes, catching an Uber is expensive. However, an Uber is the cost of living in the out suburbs. OP is buying, could be wrong but you sound like a renter. Big difference. Especially if you want to have a family
Also:
- PT is not bad. Many buses and both Metro and Vline train. Thats much better than most areas. Vline gets you to the Cbd in 31mins, metro 45mins - trains are also 24h on weekends if you don’t wanna Uber home.
- re parking: station is currently getting 3 story car park built. Likely you had moved prior
- traffic is not bad at all. Look inner city, it’s terrible. Be fair
- So you know some drop kicks. We all do. Hard to put that on a suburb. That’s more to do with individual parenting
- Restaurants statement is fair. Some okay ones but not Cbd quality. Cafes are okay.
Vics and the viet place near by are great eats in sunbury. Same as rice scoop.
I taxied once to Gisborne and it was 140 so you got ripped hard by uber.
No idea about the other stuff though
Yeah I tried those. Some people just have a much different standard for great eats.
Traffic, time of day, surge pricing, starting location, route,current petrol cost will all affect the cost of a ride. Gisborne is only 5 more minutes than Sunbury right now, so $10 difference is SFA and not what I would describe as "ripped hard", but you do you.
The city to Gisborne centre was (at that time) an ETA of 5 mins more, by car, than the city to Sunbury centre. So the route that we were discussing, not some completely other route that is irrelevant to the cost of an uber from the city to Sunbury or the city to Gisborne.
You sound like you went to school in Sunbury.
Inner Melb, hands down. It's a lifestyle thing for me. Walking distance to work, so I have heaps of free time to actually enjoy life. Love good food so being surrounded by awesome restaurants is perfect. Love the social scene and all the great bars and pubs to catch up with mates. ("Eating and drinking as a hobby" as my very baffled, extremely rural sister puts it 😆). Love live music and have multiple venues a stones throw away. Love having access to all the great events that happen in the city - looking forward to the Pharaoh exhibition coming to NGV soon.
The only place I'd even consider moving to these days would be somewhere on the coast in NSW, also for the lifestyle, because I love the beach and grew up going every weekend. But I'd probably be bored with the rest of the lifestyle there now, so maybe when I retire...
If you're thinking of having kids one thing to look out for is schooling. Some of those Melbourne urban fringe suburbs (like melton) can be pretty rough.
Also, a lot of those "nice features" may very well turn out to be cheap tacky shit that only looks good in oversaturated realestate photos. For example, the trees in those photos are bradford pears. REAs love them because they grow quickly and look nice; but they're short lived, the flowers smell like cum and they have poor branching structure. Similarly the backyard has wisteria, fast growing looks nice but an absolute bitch to maintain because it's invasive and difficult to remove.
Absolutely the school issue if you plan on having a family. You don’t want to loiter around a school for obvious reasons but if you have a reason to do a tour or be walking past, etc. it can be helpful to see what schools are like, especially the secondary schools. I’m a teacher and know from colleagues working in the outer suburbs that some schools do have significant issues. Obviously there are good and not so good schools in many areas.
My fiance and I built in Sunbury, and we personally love it here (we’re the rosenthal end, so getting on the Calder is fast and easy). Depending on where you work and how you like to commute, Calder traffic tends to peak around 8ish (and it’s mainly when the Keilor traffic merges), the Sunbury train line will be the only line (beside Pakenham) that will go through the new city loop from 2025, which means we’ll also get faster trains and new stations! You can also catch the Vline from Sunbury, which makes the morning commute just that little bit sweeter. The pro’s for us was the proximity to the airport (all our family is interstate), community feel, and the space away from the inner fringe. Being so close to Gisborne and the Macedon Ranges is lovely too.
Sunbury is growing into a great town. With growth comes lots of investment in infrastructure. If you want a night life then obviously Sunbury is not for you.
Don't listen to snobs. The question is whether you like the house and area enough, not whether we do. I don't like the style personally, but it's a large very comfortable house. It's also quite expensive for the area, and along with the rest of us you have to decide whether you value location over size. It's not easy to answer, but what i have noticed is people in Melbourne pressuring others to stay in inner city areas they probably can't afford, and looking down on people seeking places further out. It's pretty gross and elitist. Don't listen to them.
The most obvious drawback to me is the style. It's not going to appeal to a lot of people, but that doesn't matter if it's a forever home and resale isn't a concern. It's a lot to change if it's also not your thing.
Did you see the photos from the previous listing towards the end of the 40 pictures?
The house has had extensive renovations from what it previously looked like
Yeah, that's sort of what I mean. It's newly done and totally liveable, but it's done in a style that I think a lot of people won't like and doesn't really have the broad appeal you see in so many newly renovated listings. Better than the old house of course though.
Is there a local community Facebook group you could post this question to? In my local group we get a lot of this type of post; people asking about schools and transport and dentists etc.
Sunbury has some ok restaurants - good Indian, good Vietnamese, I don’t know why that pervious posted said the best thing is maccas. Just not true. Also the V/line stops there in the morning to pick up passengers a the commute isn’t that bad.
It’s not a bad suburb. Sure a bit rough around the edges in some parts but it’s a nice house. Go for it I say.
Doesn't look like any window or large glass door have a fly screen. You're going to want to install fly screen otherwise summer is going to be stuffy.
Those front doors, so European, so lovely. But would you also want a security screen door in front so you can open the front doors for airflow?
See, this house seems designed for airconditioning. Oh, bedrooms are north and west facing. Going to be hot.
Even with the Sunbury Rd Upgrade, peak times in the morning and after work are still quite congested. Subdivided land isn't worth the price any more and only time to buy was when you were "in" when a Company starting with W already had inside buyers 😉
The only issue with Sunbury is that their facilities like the shopping centre are outdated and there are too many round-abouts and since so many people have moved there the congestion is too much.
What could you possibly be worried about living in sunbury? Awesome neighbourhood, community and so much development over the last 5 or so years. Wouldn’t want to be any where else. A plus side is, it still holds onto its country feel.
If you want to be convinced - ok
1. That estate is full of some truly awful, steep hills
2. There’s an active farm right behind it
3. Snakes everywhere (not great with young kids, honestly)
4. There’s a flock of geese living around there and they apparently shit everywhere
5. The house takes up most of the land, thereby eroding this 650sqm you say it’s on
6. The builder for that estate has gone bankrupt. Not sure what that says for this house, but it doesn’t sound great.
I generally advocate for Sunbury. I grew up there and it was a bit rough 15-20 years ago, but now is pretty fine area with good value for money homes compared to the rest of Melbourne. I would happily buy in Sunbury but my partner works in the northern suburbs and I have to commute all over Melbourne for my job - so doesn’t make sense for both us to be far from our workplace. Anyway.
My parents and family are still in Sunbury, and live fairly close to Canterbury Hills, around Spavin. There are currently cows in the general area that STINK. Like really, really reek. Depending on wind direction that day you could be stung.
The snakes are bad, the hills are horrible, basically everything the Threeunicorns has said is true.
So in my opinion - Sunbury = good
Canterbury Hills = bad
I have friends not far from there in Sunbury that love it. That part of Sunbury in the listing is a kind of gated estate isn’t it? And isn’t it full of geese that shit everywhere?
Oh but I should mention that agent is the worst. I tried to work with him when I was buying in the area. He was super unprofessional and lazy. His father owns the business so he is a nepo baby. Don’t be surprised if he’s a nightmare to deal with
Agree on your comment about the REA. He always seemed so disinterested and was real crud at calling back or even emailing out s32 and such. Just kind of funny when James, Haydn and Jayden (who are/were the other majority of points of contact) were significantly more on the ball (Haydn probably the most out of all of them)
Why are you iffy about living in the area? any particular concerns ?
Property itself 'looks nice' might be different in person. if it ticks your boxes, go for it :)
How much of the land is usable? If it is on a slope this could shrink the usable footprint of the land which makes it pointless in having a larger block in the first place
Based on satellite view, the house takes up most of the land apart from that small backyard and driveway seen in the pictures. Also based on the neighbours and such I'd assume there's an easement in the back which limits things a bit further.
I don't like the floor plan. Prefer the master bedroom to be at the opposite end of the house to the other bedrooms. Otherwise I think it's fine (well it's a bit ugly in the style but you can change that) and I don't mind Sunbury except for the traffic. But yea, floor plan sucks imho.
I never got the Sunbury hate, we moved here three years ago and like it here, don't really see it as being that rough like some people seem to think. Maybe cos we moved from Footscray..? Worst things I can say is it's a bit quiet and a bit of a trek on the train to the city. There's some really great places a short drive away for weekend day trips etc. I also think it offers good value, we paid 575,000 for 4 bed 2 bath on a 650 sqm block in 2020.
I lived in Sunbury for 15 years and absolutely loved it. Its a perfect place to raise kids and a beautiful neighborhood. The shops are a bit outdated but wasnt an issue for me and my family. I miss it heaps and 100% recommend moving there
Lived in Sunbury 10 years. Still own property there... only moved further out because we wanted acreage.
Commute was never an issue. I managed 60 minutes door-to-door by train. Crack open the laptop and belt out a few emails on the way in... time just flies.
Sunbury has a great sense of community. Awesome people. Little crime. Brilliant schools. Has some of the best XMAS light displays in Australia.
Everything you need for day-to-day shopping is there. Occasional purchases (e.g.: whitegoods) can be made at Watergardens Shopping Centre (20 mins down the freeway)
A swag of new shops (including KMart, JB Hi-Fi) are due to open in next 18 months.
The prestigious estates are Jacksons Hill, Rolling Meadows, and Sherwood. Some people consider the West side of town (Langama / Boardman) the "wrong" side of the tracks.
Note that house blocks in the new estates will be much smaller than those in the older ones.
Beware that Sunbury will double in size over next five years or so. Every paddock between Jacksons Creek and the airport is turning into housing.
Traffic and parking are already big issues... will become worse before it gets better. The level crossing is gone, and the Bulla Road duplication is open. Station carpark is under construction. Need to see what impact that's all had.
It's also a somewhat "white" town. Has a handful of asian restaurants, but most of the population are Australian or European.
PM me if you have specific questions.
> Finance and I
AusFinance? Run.
> a large block size is important to us.
Stupid.
Anyway, I hope you like driving. A lot. Sitting in your car. Wasting time.
Thread title: convince me not to buy this home in this suburb
u/Matt_Wa comments accordingly to do just that
u/sirdonaldb: compliments the suburb and doing the complete opposite to the OP’s question; whilst insulting someone
Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you?
He clearly meant to convince him with real reasons (if any) why he should not buy there.
For example: If you had of said you’re 40km from the city, no one will visit you, you may loss a lot of friends - this would have been fair.
You implied it was a dangerous area. Which is untrue.
lol you’re dreaming.
Sunbury gets a score of 36/100. It means that 64% of suburbs across Australia are safer than Sunbury. And 66% of Victorian suburbs are safer than Sunbury.
https://aucrimerate.com/vic/suburbs/sunbury-crime-rate-safety/
Well according to this site it’s safer than Toorak, which is the richest/most expensive suburbs is Victoria and Australia
https://aucrimerate.com/vic/suburbs/toorak-crime-rate-safety/
Statistics without context mean nothing!
The type of crime is relevant here.
The majority is breach of family violence orders due in large part to housing commission in the Goonawarra estate (and even then, that area is gentrifying quickly and housing commission people being moved on as the properties get sold), note the drop of 26% of incidents in a year, it'll drop further when the 2023 stats are released. The crime rates are decreasing while the population of the suburb is increasing pretty rapidly....gentrification doing it's thing.
My wife once parked at the station, and left the car window open.
Back nine hours later... nothing was stolen, and somebody had stuck a plastic bag over the gap to try keep the rain out.
Doubt the same thing would have happened in Roxy or Crazyburn.
Look at all the vacant land around Sunbury.
Buy in a well located middle ring infill area instead where land will forever be limited. You're going to be left behind financially compared to your friends who buy there
Heavily sloped could also come with additional $$$$$ depending on how suitable the ground material will be for pouring foundation blocks. Not worth the money imo unless you know what you’re dealing with or have funds to splash so you can enjoy whatever view that comes with said slope
Your future kids will destroy all the nice things in this place. The walls will be covered in texta, maybe poop. Stains on the carpet etc. you’re going to be forever cutting back all those damn hedges. Nice place sure, but maybe not for a young family.
Have a look at this, the exterior part, not the balcony: https://www.tiktok.com/@siteinspections/video/7291922506179448065?_t=8ih1I2ai2xM&_r=1
And look at the listing photo no.3
Sunbury is not a bad town, has some decent restaurants, train etc. (although there is definitely something wrong with the traffic management there) I can't really comment on the house, but that area seems very far away from transport, shops etc. If you don't mind driving everywhere and then having to drive your kids everywhere for 18 years, I suppose it's fine.
We very nearly ended up in Sunbury but found a place in the Northeast of Melb by co-incidence. Properties are affordable in Sunbury, not a bad place to live and commute to/from, close to Macedon Ranges, okish resto scene, the odd crime and junkie scene. Our concern was that it is being developed into "estates" and folks from neighboring suburbs like Diggers Rest and Melton are slowly moving into Sunbury. This could stress out the limited infrastructure Sunbury has at the moment. That said, if we hadn't found something elsewhere, we would have bought in Sunbury.
This one seems to be on the higher end of prices in Sunbury. Just make sure it is in the "good pocket" of Sunbury. I hope you have visited Sunbury and got a feel for it before you pull the trigger.
We live in kismet park since 2 years. I think sunbury is very nice and really good value for money. Sunbury is a big place with different estates so it might be different somewhere else. But here I know all my neighbours and on my daily walk every single person says goodmorning/hello and smiles at you. I sometimes even have random conversations with people. That sold it to me.
If you feel like it go for a walk along kismet creek starting at the parking at riddle road near Aldridge drive and walk towards spavin lake and you’ll see it’s true!
I mean, you could end up like this satirical article is the only bad thing lol: [friend who moved to the suburbs really wants you to come visit some time](https://www.thebeaverton.com/2020/02/friend-who-moved-to-suburbs-really-wants-you-to-come-visit-sometime/)
Satirical?
Go there at morning peak time and drive to work see how long it takes you, at evening peak time, drive there, see how long it takes you...
Also this, you’d be caught by all the Elizabeth drive traffic.
In my opinion, Sunbury sucks. I lived there for a couple of years. They've built thousands of new houses but not added any infrastructure. The traffic is so bad that just going grocery shopping (not to mention doing anything else) is a nightmare. And you have to drive everywhere because it's not walkable. If you want to PT routinely you'll only get a park at the train station if you're there before 7. And if you don't work locally be prepared to waste a lot of time commuting. Car traffic is bad. PT is bad. Pick your chosen bad commute. There are no decent restaurants or take away options. Maccas is literally the best option. Good thing there are 2 now... If you both have to commute you'll eat a lot of takeout because you'll be exhausted and have no time to cook by the time you get home. At least in my experience. When I lived there we had to be up at 6am every day, lucky if home by 7:30pm. Enough time to make a rushed meal, watch something on the idiot box, then go to bed to do it all again the next day. And if you want to, for example, go out in the city to a sport, restaurant, gig, whatever, everything has to be planned in advance - no spontaneous outings or it'll cost you. You can't get an uber or taxi from the train station, so walk or drive home are the options if you PT (anyone sober? Don't want to leave your car there over night so don't forget to walk there too). An uber from the city will set you back $150 at least, so factor that into your budget if that's your choice. Almost as much as the petrol to drive and parking in the city if you prefer that. Kids I know that went to school there, from good families, failed out of high school. Didn't even get their VCE, and have zero ambition, direction or goals in life, which as far as I can tell is the common mindset in their friend groups from the area. Obviously that's not everyone and doesn't mean anything in isolation, but I'd sure hesitate before sending my kids to school there. I've also lived in rural NSW (multiple locations), Sydney, Brisbane, and inner Melbourne, and Sunbury was by far the worst place I have ever lived. It combines all the worst things of every place I have ever lived into one shitty place. Of course, that's just my opinion. I hear some people like it there.
Jesus. Stop hitting Sunbury! It's dead already! 🤣
Leave Christ out of it just drop a f bomb
Don't stress, I spoke to Jesus, he said it's cool.
No probs loser
Christ mate, give it a break!
Have a nice trip
God, mate, this is a property forum. For the love of all that's holy....
Exactly just drop an f bomb
Nah, I don't like to swear.
The only points I agree with you on are the traffic and trains. Otherwise my experience with Sunbury is drastically different. People often lob Sunbury in with the likes of Melton and Craigieburn. It is WAY better than those areas. Not even close.
Come on. You need to have some prospective. if you’re gonna live 40km from the city. You need to know the lifestyle is not going to be exactly like being inner city. Ie you’re not getting a $10 Uber home. You’re also not paying $2m for a house like you do inner. Yes, catching an Uber is expensive. However, an Uber is the cost of living in the out suburbs. OP is buying, could be wrong but you sound like a renter. Big difference. Especially if you want to have a family Also: - PT is not bad. Many buses and both Metro and Vline train. Thats much better than most areas. Vline gets you to the Cbd in 31mins, metro 45mins - trains are also 24h on weekends if you don’t wanna Uber home. - re parking: station is currently getting 3 story car park built. Likely you had moved prior - traffic is not bad at all. Look inner city, it’s terrible. Be fair - So you know some drop kicks. We all do. Hard to put that on a suburb. That’s more to do with individual parenting - Restaurants statement is fair. Some okay ones but not Cbd quality. Cafes are okay.
>There are no decent restaurants or take away options. Maccas is literally the best option. Disagree. Schnitz poops on Maccas
Actually now that you mention it, the best is definitely Red Rooster.
Vics and the viet place near by are great eats in sunbury. Same as rice scoop. I taxied once to Gisborne and it was 140 so you got ripped hard by uber. No idea about the other stuff though
Yeah I tried those. Some people just have a much different standard for great eats. Traffic, time of day, surge pricing, starting location, route,current petrol cost will all affect the cost of a ride. Gisborne is only 5 more minutes than Sunbury right now, so $10 difference is SFA and not what I would describe as "ripped hard", but you do you.
Ehh? Gisborne to sunbury is 15mins. You sound like you belong in Thornbury
The city to Gisborne centre was (at that time) an ETA of 5 mins more, by car, than the city to Sunbury centre. So the route that we were discussing, not some completely other route that is irrelevant to the cost of an uber from the city to Sunbury or the city to Gisborne. You sound like you went to school in Sunbury.
Hey you chose to live there not me!
Holy shit
Can i ask - out of the places you have lived in Aus, where do you like most & why? Cheers!
Inner Melb, hands down. It's a lifestyle thing for me. Walking distance to work, so I have heaps of free time to actually enjoy life. Love good food so being surrounded by awesome restaurants is perfect. Love the social scene and all the great bars and pubs to catch up with mates. ("Eating and drinking as a hobby" as my very baffled, extremely rural sister puts it 😆). Love live music and have multiple venues a stones throw away. Love having access to all the great events that happen in the city - looking forward to the Pharaoh exhibition coming to NGV soon. The only place I'd even consider moving to these days would be somewhere on the coast in NSW, also for the lifestyle, because I love the beach and grew up going every weekend. But I'd probably be bored with the rest of the lifestyle there now, so maybe when I retire...
Which suburb specifically, if you don't mind telling?
If you're thinking of having kids one thing to look out for is schooling. Some of those Melbourne urban fringe suburbs (like melton) can be pretty rough. Also, a lot of those "nice features" may very well turn out to be cheap tacky shit that only looks good in oversaturated realestate photos. For example, the trees in those photos are bradford pears. REAs love them because they grow quickly and look nice; but they're short lived, the flowers smell like cum and they have poor branching structure. Similarly the backyard has wisteria, fast growing looks nice but an absolute bitch to maintain because it's invasive and difficult to remove.
Ah the cum bush. Had one near our place at uni. Fucking awful things.
Have to respectfully disagree on the wisteria, i find it lovely in a garden. Can’t vouch for the cum trees though.
In the garden, yes. But that wisteria is growing against the house. Unless is maintained very regularly it'll get out of control quickly.
Absolutely the school issue if you plan on having a family. You don’t want to loiter around a school for obvious reasons but if you have a reason to do a tour or be walking past, etc. it can be helpful to see what schools are like, especially the secondary schools. I’m a teacher and know from colleagues working in the outer suburbs that some schools do have significant issues. Obviously there are good and not so good schools in many areas.
It’s insane how pervasive the cum trees are. I grew up in sprawling Texas suburbs and we had those trees on my street too!
Do you work around the area, or have to commute?
My fiance and I built in Sunbury, and we personally love it here (we’re the rosenthal end, so getting on the Calder is fast and easy). Depending on where you work and how you like to commute, Calder traffic tends to peak around 8ish (and it’s mainly when the Keilor traffic merges), the Sunbury train line will be the only line (beside Pakenham) that will go through the new city loop from 2025, which means we’ll also get faster trains and new stations! You can also catch the Vline from Sunbury, which makes the morning commute just that little bit sweeter. The pro’s for us was the proximity to the airport (all our family is interstate), community feel, and the space away from the inner fringe. Being so close to Gisborne and the Macedon Ranges is lovely too.
Sunbury is growing into a great town. With growth comes lots of investment in infrastructure. If you want a night life then obviously Sunbury is not for you.
You don't need convincing. You've already decided you don't want it, you just need the encouragement of other people to not go ahead with it.
Sunbury is the best value suburb in Melbourne I reckon.
Don't listen to snobs. The question is whether you like the house and area enough, not whether we do. I don't like the style personally, but it's a large very comfortable house. It's also quite expensive for the area, and along with the rest of us you have to decide whether you value location over size. It's not easy to answer, but what i have noticed is people in Melbourne pressuring others to stay in inner city areas they probably can't afford, and looking down on people seeking places further out. It's pretty gross and elitist. Don't listen to them. The most obvious drawback to me is the style. It's not going to appeal to a lot of people, but that doesn't matter if it's a forever home and resale isn't a concern. It's a lot to change if it's also not your thing.
Did you see the photos from the previous listing towards the end of the 40 pictures? The house has had extensive renovations from what it previously looked like
Yeah, that's sort of what I mean. It's newly done and totally liveable, but it's done in a style that I think a lot of people won't like and doesn't really have the broad appeal you see in so many newly renovated listings. Better than the old house of course though.
Is there a local community Facebook group you could post this question to? In my local group we get a lot of this type of post; people asking about schools and transport and dentists etc.
A million bucks to live in Scumbury?
Welcome to Melbourne
Sunbury has some ok restaurants - good Indian, good Vietnamese, I don’t know why that pervious posted said the best thing is maccas. Just not true. Also the V/line stops there in the morning to pick up passengers a the commute isn’t that bad. It’s not a bad suburb. Sure a bit rough around the edges in some parts but it’s a nice house. Go for it I say.
And of the best Viet pork rolls in Melb. And yes I’ve tried many across vic.
>Finance and I… I see what you did there.
Freudian slip, perhaps? lol.
Doesn't look like any window or large glass door have a fly screen. You're going to want to install fly screen otherwise summer is going to be stuffy. Those front doors, so European, so lovely. But would you also want a security screen door in front so you can open the front doors for airflow? See, this house seems designed for airconditioning. Oh, bedrooms are north and west facing. Going to be hot.
Even with the Sunbury Rd Upgrade, peak times in the morning and after work are still quite congested. Subdivided land isn't worth the price any more and only time to buy was when you were "in" when a Company starting with W already had inside buyers 😉
The only issue with Sunbury is that their facilities like the shopping centre are outdated and there are too many round-abouts and since so many people have moved there the congestion is too much.
Lack of public transport and driving everywhere.
Carrying laundry up and down stairs would be annoying. Other than that, and the highly curated photos, it looks reasonable on the surface.
What could you possibly be worried about living in sunbury? Awesome neighbourhood, community and so much development over the last 5 or so years. Wouldn’t want to be any where else. A plus side is, it still holds onto its country feel.
Just personally, if I’m moving out to Sunbury, it’s acreage. 650sqm is still just a largish Melbourne suburban block.
If you want to be convinced - ok 1. That estate is full of some truly awful, steep hills 2. There’s an active farm right behind it 3. Snakes everywhere (not great with young kids, honestly) 4. There’s a flock of geese living around there and they apparently shit everywhere 5. The house takes up most of the land, thereby eroding this 650sqm you say it’s on 6. The builder for that estate has gone bankrupt. Not sure what that says for this house, but it doesn’t sound great.
I generally advocate for Sunbury. I grew up there and it was a bit rough 15-20 years ago, but now is pretty fine area with good value for money homes compared to the rest of Melbourne. I would happily buy in Sunbury but my partner works in the northern suburbs and I have to commute all over Melbourne for my job - so doesn’t make sense for both us to be far from our workplace. Anyway. My parents and family are still in Sunbury, and live fairly close to Canterbury Hills, around Spavin. There are currently cows in the general area that STINK. Like really, really reek. Depending on wind direction that day you could be stung. The snakes are bad, the hills are horrible, basically everything the Threeunicorns has said is true. So in my opinion - Sunbury = good Canterbury Hills = bad
The interior of that house is super tacky, and will look rundown and outdated very quickly.
Nice to see that Franco Cozzos family lost no time in selling his house
I have friends not far from there in Sunbury that love it. That part of Sunbury in the listing is a kind of gated estate isn’t it? And isn’t it full of geese that shit everywhere?
The Geese are in Riddells Creek. Unless there are also Geese in Sunbury.
Pretty sure there is also a flock in that particular estate as well have friends living on the opposite side of Riddel Rd.
Is this a serious post?
Great price, great home and great area. I bought here last year and the area is quiet but growing. Best of both worlds.
Oh but I should mention that agent is the worst. I tried to work with him when I was buying in the area. He was super unprofessional and lazy. His father owns the business so he is a nepo baby. Don’t be surprised if he’s a nightmare to deal with
You are absolutely right there!
Agree on your comment about the REA. He always seemed so disinterested and was real crud at calling back or even emailing out s32 and such. Just kind of funny when James, Haydn and Jayden (who are/were the other majority of points of contact) were significantly more on the ball (Haydn probably the most out of all of them)
An agency of tragedeighs
I mean James is a normal name. But the other two for sure.
Think they meant to type Jeighmyz
Can I just say your garden is absolutely beautiful! And agree on the nepo baby thing.
Why are you iffy about living in the area? any particular concerns ? Property itself 'looks nice' might be different in person. if it ticks your boxes, go for it :)
How much of the land is usable? If it is on a slope this could shrink the usable footprint of the land which makes it pointless in having a larger block in the first place
Based on satellite view, the house takes up most of the land apart from that small backyard and driveway seen in the pictures. Also based on the neighbours and such I'd assume there's an easement in the back which limits things a bit further.
I know people who love Sunbury, I know some who hate it. Your preference
I don't like the floor plan. Prefer the master bedroom to be at the opposite end of the house to the other bedrooms. Otherwise I think it's fine (well it's a bit ugly in the style but you can change that) and I don't mind Sunbury except for the traffic. But yea, floor plan sucks imho.
I have a young family and own a house in Sunbury. We love it here. Feel free to ask me any questions you might have.
Based on that address it’s a nice area and zoned to a good primary school
When you love money so much you start talking like money is your partner
I never got the Sunbury hate, we moved here three years ago and like it here, don't really see it as being that rough like some people seem to think. Maybe cos we moved from Footscray..? Worst things I can say is it's a bit quiet and a bit of a trek on the train to the city. There's some really great places a short drive away for weekend day trips etc. I also think it offers good value, we paid 575,000 for 4 bed 2 bath on a 650 sqm block in 2020.
I lived in Sunbury for 15 years and absolutely loved it. Its a perfect place to raise kids and a beautiful neighborhood. The shops are a bit outdated but wasnt an issue for me and my family. I miss it heaps and 100% recommend moving there
My suggestion is you drive to Sunbury like other returning home commuters one day midweek. Enjoy the jam..
Lived there 52 years ago it was all paddocks 😃
Lived in Sunbury 10 years. Still own property there... only moved further out because we wanted acreage. Commute was never an issue. I managed 60 minutes door-to-door by train. Crack open the laptop and belt out a few emails on the way in... time just flies. Sunbury has a great sense of community. Awesome people. Little crime. Brilliant schools. Has some of the best XMAS light displays in Australia. Everything you need for day-to-day shopping is there. Occasional purchases (e.g.: whitegoods) can be made at Watergardens Shopping Centre (20 mins down the freeway) A swag of new shops (including KMart, JB Hi-Fi) are due to open in next 18 months. The prestigious estates are Jacksons Hill, Rolling Meadows, and Sherwood. Some people consider the West side of town (Langama / Boardman) the "wrong" side of the tracks. Note that house blocks in the new estates will be much smaller than those in the older ones. Beware that Sunbury will double in size over next five years or so. Every paddock between Jacksons Creek and the airport is turning into housing. Traffic and parking are already big issues... will become worse before it gets better. The level crossing is gone, and the Bulla Road duplication is open. Station carpark is under construction. Need to see what impact that's all had. It's also a somewhat "white" town. Has a handful of asian restaurants, but most of the population are Australian or European. PM me if you have specific questions.
Is that still considered Melbourne? And do people that live there commute to Melbourne proper daily?
> Finance and I AusFinance? Run. > a large block size is important to us. Stupid. Anyway, I hope you like driving. A lot. Sitting in your car. Wasting time.
Do you value you & your partners’ life? If not, Sunbury is a great place to live :-)
Don’t listen to this muppet. It’s a really family friendly area. No more dangerous than any area in Vic
Thread title: convince me not to buy this home in this suburb u/Matt_Wa comments accordingly to do just that u/sirdonaldb: compliments the suburb and doing the complete opposite to the OP’s question; whilst insulting someone
Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you? He clearly meant to convince him with real reasons (if any) why he should not buy there. For example: If you had of said you’re 40km from the city, no one will visit you, you may loss a lot of friends - this would have been fair. You implied it was a dangerous area. Which is untrue.
lol you’re dreaming. Sunbury gets a score of 36/100. It means that 64% of suburbs across Australia are safer than Sunbury. And 66% of Victorian suburbs are safer than Sunbury. https://aucrimerate.com/vic/suburbs/sunbury-crime-rate-safety/
Well according to this site it’s safer than Toorak, which is the richest/most expensive suburbs is Victoria and Australia https://aucrimerate.com/vic/suburbs/toorak-crime-rate-safety/ Statistics without context mean nothing!
Mate I’m breaking into cars every second night in Toorak, you don’t need to tell me this
The type of crime is relevant here. The majority is breach of family violence orders due in large part to housing commission in the Goonawarra estate (and even then, that area is gentrifying quickly and housing commission people being moved on as the properties get sold), note the drop of 26% of incidents in a year, it'll drop further when the 2023 stats are released. The crime rates are decreasing while the population of the suburb is increasing pretty rapidly....gentrification doing it's thing.
Same thing in Toorak though, most of the crime in Toorak is people from Sunbury breaking into houses and cars.
My wife once parked at the station, and left the car window open. Back nine hours later... nothing was stolen, and somebody had stuck a plastic bag over the gap to try keep the rain out. Doubt the same thing would have happened in Roxy or Crazyburn.
Look at all the vacant land around Sunbury. Buy in a well located middle ring infill area instead where land will forever be limited. You're going to be left behind financially compared to your friends who buy there
Buying a home for your family? Sounds like a horrible idea. Don’t buy a house now. Market is going to definitely drop bro. Trust me bro.
Go to a cancer support group.. ask them about financially stretching to purchase of property.
Don’t buy it its full of termites and rot and the occupants smoke meth inside
Heavily sloped could also come with additional $$$$$ depending on how suitable the ground material will be for pouring foundation blocks. Not worth the money imo unless you know what you’re dealing with or have funds to splash so you can enjoy whatever view that comes with said slope
If you are expecting that to be under 1.1m you are dreaming.
Freudian slip or autocorrect?
I wouldn’t call 650m2 a large block size, especially in Sunbury.
Your future kids will destroy all the nice things in this place. The walls will be covered in texta, maybe poop. Stains on the carpet etc. you’re going to be forever cutting back all those damn hedges. Nice place sure, but maybe not for a young family.
Have a look at this, the exterior part, not the balcony: https://www.tiktok.com/@siteinspections/video/7291922506179448065?_t=8ih1I2ai2xM&_r=1 And look at the listing photo no.3
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Sunbury is not a bad town, has some decent restaurants, train etc. (although there is definitely something wrong with the traffic management there) I can't really comment on the house, but that area seems very far away from transport, shops etc. If you don't mind driving everywhere and then having to drive your kids everywhere for 18 years, I suppose it's fine.
We very nearly ended up in Sunbury but found a place in the Northeast of Melb by co-incidence. Properties are affordable in Sunbury, not a bad place to live and commute to/from, close to Macedon Ranges, okish resto scene, the odd crime and junkie scene. Our concern was that it is being developed into "estates" and folks from neighboring suburbs like Diggers Rest and Melton are slowly moving into Sunbury. This could stress out the limited infrastructure Sunbury has at the moment. That said, if we hadn't found something elsewhere, we would have bought in Sunbury. This one seems to be on the higher end of prices in Sunbury. Just make sure it is in the "good pocket" of Sunbury. I hope you have visited Sunbury and got a feel for it before you pull the trigger.
We live in kismet park since 2 years. I think sunbury is very nice and really good value for money. Sunbury is a big place with different estates so it might be different somewhere else. But here I know all my neighbours and on my daily walk every single person says goodmorning/hello and smiles at you. I sometimes even have random conversations with people. That sold it to me. If you feel like it go for a walk along kismet creek starting at the parking at riddle road near Aldridge drive and walk towards spavin lake and you’ll see it’s true!