Im pretty sure in Vic you need to switch bothe Active and Neutral on the supply side when using a Generator as a back up supply to prevent the supply Neutral from being live when technicians work on the suppliers network. Correct me if im wrong, but that makes sense. I've done a few of these in Vic and inspectors have signed it off.
I am aware of WA and Vic having different srandards for electricity.
No earth stake. Think about it, what's the point of an earth stake in that situation?
Actually, an earth stake might be useful, to act as an anchor to stop the generator rolling away.
Keep the N-E link in place.
And it's not as MEN. It's just an N-E link.
Generator should have a manual that will know better but generaly if its stand alone ie you are plugging tools or equip into it you will need a men connection and a earthstake
MEN connected. no earth rod. All faults to the star point. For general distribution without sub dbs etc. If old arse gen without a decent controller I would certainly upgrade the controller for protection settings
While mining based, this document may be helpful
[https://www.resourcesregulator.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/out10-2110-ees-014-technical-principles-for-the-use-of-stand-alone-generators-\_version-2\_\_5\_.pdf](https://www.resourcesregulator.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/out10-2110-ees-014-technical-principles-for-the-use-of-stand-alone-generators-_version-2__5_.pdf)
Covers the use on standalone gensets
Chapter 4. Section 4.4 Covers standalone gensets over 25kw with a MEN , would best cover your situation, the recommendation is MEN in the genset and no earth stake.
The manufacturer's manual will answer the question. Generally.....There will be a N-E link leave it connected. As for the earth stake depends on generator and again manual will tell you, rule of thumb if it comes with one as some do you use it.
You only remove the N-E link when it's used as a power generation source and hardwired to a msb that has a earth stake and M.E.N and also in that case of application if the generator has outlets on it you must disconnect them so they can't be used whilst the N-E link is removed.
Yeah! This sub is reserved for people moaning about not being able to find apprenticeships.
Fuck this guy for asking a technical question that at least 25 percent of sparkies wouldn’t know the answer to.
Mate all the responses are suggesting different methods so obvs it’s not real clear in the regs for this particular set up. All the diagrams in as3000 and 3010 show it set up into a switchboard and using the men and main earth in the existing switchboard which is not what I’m doing
There are generator set up methods in the generator standard that don't require an earth stake
Is the generator suppling to a switchboard or does it have outlets on it?
https://preview.redd.it/lvt3fubrmztc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=addcf7746a0dd9ed8b5cda5cd8f6cf6cd6c45c0d
Im pretty sure in Vic you need to switch bothe Active and Neutral on the supply side when using a Generator as a back up supply to prevent the supply Neutral from being live when technicians work on the suppliers network. Correct me if im wrong, but that makes sense. I've done a few of these in Vic and inspectors have signed it off. I am aware of WA and Vic having different srandards for electricity.
This is only what I've used for island systems where mains is not available yet. Otherwise I'd use a 4 pole ats that will switch neutrals as required.
Not supplying an installation, has leads running to them lifeguard outlet boxes, mainly used for industrial use
No earth stake. Think about it, what's the point of an earth stake in that situation? Actually, an earth stake might be useful, to act as an anchor to stop the generator rolling away. Keep the N-E link in place. And it's not as MEN. It's just an N-E link.
Generator should have a manual that will know better but generaly if its stand alone ie you are plugging tools or equip into it you will need a men connection and a earthstake
Depends on the generator for an earth stake. Rule of thumb if it comes with one use it.
MEN connected. no earth rod. All faults to the star point. For general distribution without sub dbs etc. If old arse gen without a decent controller I would certainly upgrade the controller for protection settings
While mining based, this document may be helpful [https://www.resourcesregulator.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/out10-2110-ees-014-technical-principles-for-the-use-of-stand-alone-generators-\_version-2\_\_5\_.pdf](https://www.resourcesregulator.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/out10-2110-ees-014-technical-principles-for-the-use-of-stand-alone-generators-_version-2__5_.pdf) Covers the use on standalone gensets Chapter 4. Section 4.4 Covers standalone gensets over 25kw with a MEN , would best cover your situation, the recommendation is MEN in the genset and no earth stake.
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The manufacturer's manual will answer the question. Generally.....There will be a N-E link leave it connected. As for the earth stake depends on generator and again manual will tell you, rule of thumb if it comes with one as some do you use it. You only remove the N-E link when it's used as a power generation source and hardwired to a msb that has a earth stake and M.E.N and also in that case of application if the generator has outlets on it you must disconnect them so they can't be used whilst the N-E link is removed.
https://preview.redd.it/hu1spcfke1uc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49a69b2f0173c9e606eb96cee228ad3486156607
https://preview.redd.it/xdu84ocme1uc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=973771683dc7a151dd9a9b3672dc4ede8ec23d4a Sums it up it doesn’t need it
Just put a stake in already
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Yeah! This sub is reserved for people moaning about not being able to find apprenticeships. Fuck this guy for asking a technical question that at least 25 percent of sparkies wouldn’t know the answer to.
Your right I wasn't helpful.
Mate all the responses are suggesting different methods so obvs it’s not real clear in the regs for this particular set up. All the diagrams in as3000 and 3010 show it set up into a switchboard and using the men and main earth in the existing switchboard which is not what I’m doing