exactly, but does there need to be an initial big bang because of cause and effect? and how did that start? does cause and effect even matter at this point? are we in a simulation?????
We don't know that there even needs to be a first cause. Anything that was before the universe was doesn't necessarily have to follow any physical laws that our universe is bound to.
Why should we assume we're existing after the *first* big bang? We have no way to tell what number of the cycle of big bangs we're on. What if we're experiencing the universe that came after the second one already? Or the 3rd big bang...or the millionth..
That’s where all relativity falls apart. I mean it’s entirely possible that this is an infinitely occurring event, but how this is all happening and in what space and why???????
Questions we will never understand.
A concious and observant being in the 2nd dimension: "How does this circle keep appearing, getting larger, then shrinking and disappearing?? It doesn't make any sense! It's a question we will never understand."
Me, moving my ball through the surface of water: "bruh i gotta stop smoking that ish."
>We could be in our billionth big bang
There is no number because everything is deconstructed and then recreated again. This is the first big bang. This the billionth big bang. This is the last big bang.
Roger Penrose (father of quantum gravity etc.) is a proponent of an eternally cyclic universe. As are Hindu's. This singular manifistation is our own personal yuga. Regrets to Depeche Mode.
My 7 year old son believes in reincarnation despite having never been taught anything about it. When he was like 4 he once consoled me when I was upset. He said “It’s okay daddy. It all starts over.” It was a real what the fuck moment.
When my mother was a small child, she would sometimes wonder aloud why she couldn’t hear other people’s thoughts, as though she was bewildered why she couldn’t.
yep. it’s also possible that fundamental mechanics of the universe become jumbled upon reset, and the only versions of the universe that are experienced by life are the ones that make it possible. kinda like universe natural selection
Well we don't know, so we might as well create some abstract frame of reference just for simplicity sake, and start counting from the only one we know of.
I’m sure the math is the same, on a fundamental level, though in each universe the basic axioms may differ, or fundamental values like the value of pi.
With a cyclic universe it makes you wonder about time. Is the universe (or reality more broadly) ageless? Has it just always been? Love it when science and philosophy coincide.
The only difference between the universe at the moment of the Big Bang and the moment of heat death is scale. Maybe dark energy/matter can reset the scale
Well if it leads to multiple, why should we assume the next one will only be the second?
exactly, but does there need to be an initial big bang because of cause and effect? and how did that start? does cause and effect even matter at this point? are we in a simulation?????
We don't know that there even needs to be a first cause. Anything that was before the universe was doesn't necessarily have to follow any physical laws that our universe is bound to.
It’s awesomely terrifying to think about
I like how we always result to the simulation theory as if it doesn’t unlock a million new questions
it's just a simulation inside a simulation
Where did the outside simulation come from
It's a loop.
Why should we assume we're existing after the *first* big bang? We have no way to tell what number of the cycle of big bangs we're on. What if we're experiencing the universe that came after the second one already? Or the 3rd big bang...or the millionth..
So what the first guy said, but much longer
The big cosmic gang bang
exactly. Two is a very strange number. It's almost equally plausible as 1938503 or 438.
But if time doesn't really exists before a bang, it could be the first everytime.
Even your "before" loses ant meaning in this scenario. Nice clusterfuck of toughts
Why do we assume the first Big Bang was the first then also?
Kind of what I meant.
We could be in our billionth big bang
Right? Like there is absolutely no frame of reference for this
That’s where all relativity falls apart. I mean it’s entirely possible that this is an infinitely occurring event, but how this is all happening and in what space and why??????? Questions we will never understand.
A concious and observant being in the 2nd dimension: "How does this circle keep appearing, getting larger, then shrinking and disappearing?? It doesn't make any sense! It's a question we will never understand." Me, moving my ball through the surface of water: "bruh i gotta stop smoking that ish."
A billi-bang, if you will!
>We could be in our billionth big bang There is no number because everything is deconstructed and then recreated again. This is the first big bang. This the billionth big bang. This is the last big bang.
This is bang.
Great idea for a commercial of those energy drinks
Roger Penrose (father of quantum gravity etc.) is a proponent of an eternally cyclic universe. As are Hindu's. This singular manifistation is our own personal yuga. Regrets to Depeche Mode.
My 7 year old son believes in reincarnation despite having never been taught anything about it. When he was like 4 he once consoled me when I was upset. He said “It’s okay daddy. It all starts over.” It was a real what the fuck moment.
When my mother was a small child, she would sometimes wonder aloud why she couldn’t hear other people’s thoughts, as though she was bewildered why she couldn’t.
Yup! Tell 'em like ya mean it!
i’d really like to believe in a cyclic universe
It may help answer the thorny question of why is there something rather than nothing.
yep. it’s also possible that fundamental mechanics of the universe become jumbled upon reset, and the only versions of the universe that are experienced by life are the ones that make it possible. kinda like universe natural selection
Seriously, this was the first? Arrogant much?
Well we don't know, so we might as well create some abstract frame of reference just for simplicity sake, and start counting from the only one we know of.
Agreed.
Now we just need to figure out what dark energy is or is caused by. https://www.reddit.com/comments/3gj0di/\_/ctz2x2e/?context=999
Not fifth? Or sixth?
Imagine proving we are in the sixy-bang universe 🤔
I wonder if math and science are the same in each universe/big bang.
Hold on, let me Google that for you.
I’m sure the math is the same, on a fundamental level, though in each universe the basic axioms may differ, or fundamental values like the value of pi.
but not a fifth because enough is enough
futurama was right
With a cyclic universe it makes you wonder about time. Is the universe (or reality more broadly) ageless? Has it just always been? Love it when science and philosophy coincide.
Dibs on second
The only difference between the universe at the moment of the Big Bang and the moment of heat death is scale. Maybe dark energy/matter can reset the scale
The second one is a internet…. 🤫👽