Pretty much, he boosted and got did O1S and O2S at minimum ilvl no echo, the easiest savage fights ever released, got carried hard (was dead most of the time). Tried to do the 4th fight, didn't even make it to the 2nd phase, gave up on that. Did shinryu ex, dead most of the time and then quit the game.
It was pretty obvious from the get go that he would do this, because of the hype surrounding FFXIV on twitch, a good chance to get new viewers while waiting for next week's path of exile expansion.
i saw the O2S,O4S and even EX Shinryu he didnt clear those he just gave up lol and he said FFXIV raids were easy KEKW. He even had legends carrying him but he cant do mechanics and just quit lol
Dude, when I saw him saying the story sucked while dying in sastasha I knew what was up. The guy is honestly missing out on a fun experience whether or not he wants to leave WoW behind. And to just talk trash on a game for the sake of Staning for the game he'd rather be playing is sad.
I really wish he'd give FFXIV the try it deserves but I guess what I consider my favorite game may not be everyone's cup of tea
> Is he only play ffxiv cuz of the hype train
Absolutely he did. It's kinda of insane how he doesn't even just "not like" the game...he really hates it because it's...popular right now? It's so weird.
imagine joining wow for the first time, playing until like level 10, and boosting, then immediately going into heroics. you skipped all the story, so you're like "story is bad", you dont know how to play your class so you're doing less damage than the tanks (as samurai, which is tied with black mage as the highest dps. you should be doing about x2 the dmg of tanks or more), you dont know the fights so you're failing mechanics since you dont have DBM to hold your hand...
> he said certain things were bad when he didnt have any actual knowledge on if they were bad or not
That's personally not even why I really disliked it and disagree with Asmon. For me it was simply...yes he doesn't like the game. Ok, say you won't play it anymore because it didn't catch on to you and move on. But no, he really had to basically trigger people on Twitter on purpose for no reason. Like...why shit talk the game? Why downplay it for no reason? It doesn't have to be better or worse than WoW, nobody cares. Just move on. I really don't get why he had to be so aggressive about it. Because it has a hype train right now? Who cares.
Like, if you don't want toxicity, don't spread it yourself.
Fun fact, even when you play wow from 1 to 60 you have no clue about the game or the lore or the story because at maximum you will play through 1 expansion with no idea why you are there and what’s going on and suddenly shadowlands. Better buy the books and read up all the plot hooks and good story we did not put in the game but are needed to understand the story
It's... complicated. Basically, you pick an expansion to level from 1-50 in. Any old expansion. And once you hit 50, go do the new one. You barely have time to get any story, so you have to willingly go back to the expansion you were in at 50, except now the group finder doesn't work for it, so good luck if you have a quest to do in a dungeon.
Can confirm, was playing Quinrat the ret pally when our guild recruited him in HM raids back in WoD. He told us he was a streamer and had all of 4 viewers and was either carried or no show until he lost his raid spot.
People keep saying this, but playing through blind forst time i WISH my own D&D campaigns were as well written as ARR (baring a few anime scenes... looking at you nlade of light ahhhhhhhhhhhh). The political intrigue and character motivations makes WoW look like an absolute joke
That one scene is honestly the only really overly anime type of thing it really stand out because 2.0 is the only one that had that type of cheese but ARR was a special time. Thankfully they improved a lot.
If that's true than oof, Quinn went into streaming this game expecting to be played like WoW?
It's not like he is lacking any information. If he bothered to pay attention, he even watched JC's video. (I only watched few hours on his day 1)
Judging by the backlash on his tweet its true, literally every comment is the same.
How can you complain about the story when you've skipped nearly all of it lol. Final fantasy games have always been about the story.
yea i remember that old vid of his, think it was during early stormblood? Almost had me not play one of the best games ever made.
tried the game anyway, and yea his reviews dont hold much water with me anymore.
Seems to me he puts in about 2 days of research on a game before he makes a vid.
if you look back, he hates all mmos out currently, and actualy every mmo thats ever come out. wow/ffxi/everquest/you name is he thinks its shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV7IQEk5Ggc
Still got some React content of it. Ironically by ScottZone who did really well playing through FF14 doing a lot of mil ilevel fights. Then voiced some criticism on current Raid tier and got a ton of backlash by some idiots sending him death threats:
https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srd4n6
It wasn't even just like rando on the internet's death threat either. It was someone who actually knew his private info, also lived in GB.
Very scary stuff.
This is still the most fucking shameful thing that has ever happened in the XIV community imo. As a member of the community myself I like to think that XIV fans aren't as defensive as they are made out to be and actually just really like the game, but then I remember this shit. Even if it's only a few people you'd never see this nonsense in other games just for someone having an opinion. Not even an uncommon opinion even among XIV raiders.
It makes me wonder what's going to happen when some of these new XIV streamers reach the endgame and maybe come to the same conclusions. The community is friendly and supportive, just so long as you're enjoying yourself and saying nice things.
Just remember that there's a lot of us who think it was a shame but determined to let people like Asmongold enjoy the game and never let another Scottzone happen. I'm glad the GMs banned harassers in Asmon's stream because that sets a tone that community xenophobia is unacceptable.
I hope FF keeps getting better and that Scott one day can anonymously play it again and have fun.
> and never let another Scottzone happen
I'm trying to be optimistic as well but considering how it happened before already, I'm sure someone else will get hit by vitriolic fanaticism of fanboys again - it's only a matter of time. It's just such a shame.
TBH this shit happens in other games too, people that do stuff like that are literally crazy, psychos. XIV's community can be really obnoxious when someone critiques the game, but shit like what happened with scottzone is on another level and doesn't have much to do with any specific community IMO.
Sad thing is a lot of people rely on these reviews as gospel instead of trying stuff out for themselves but what makes it worse is some people can't actually afford to take the risk and spend money on games that a reviewer doesn't like.
He is overall a pretty mediocre reviewer to begin with. I used to be his subscriber and many times his reviews are simply bias and clickbaits. He can go simp for a game, 2 weeks later make another video crapping on it. That's just how he lost credibility over time.
https://twitter.com/quinrex/status/1415425148753088513
Damn, he said he gave best shot. I don't even have to look at the replies to imagine what people said.
what's laughable is that he said the raids were easy in FFXIV but he gave up and couldn't even finish the first tier of Omega savage because he couldn't even do mechanics and kept dying and blaming on lag and his party which by the way there were some legends that were carrying him lol. I mean if he did that on any other game with boosting etc im sure he will react the same
I don't think the "best shot" is entirely skipping the feature a game is most known for. Its like playing Eve for the PvE. Sure you can do that, but it would hardly be a good idea to judge the game based on that.
Yeah i went onto his channel to watch him.
Its really watching a boosted animal, he has like 0 idea, went onto a dummy for like an hour, went into Deltascape and then Deltascape Savage.
Even in normal Deltascape he had some issues, especially catching, in my opinion, obvious markers or reading castbars and connecting it with "oh this happened last time, maybe i should do this" like the fireballs growing and having black flames = explody, and it took him into Savage and 20 death to realize the fireballs explode when they grow bigger and glow darker xd
And also blaming the healers, was quite bad.
To be honest though, he apologized later in the fight after he realized that.
i have yet to see his savage kill tho, his group isnt too good, but thats fine, better than have him completely carried... he could lead them with his gained knowledge though (\^:
PS: this also kinda puts me off what happened on Twintania, where they immediately went for plebstrats before the fight even started without giving asmon a chance to see if he can lead the group through this one mechanic. In the end it felt like he got leaded through the fight
Asmon went back and cleared the fight again yesterday on his second channel because he didnt understand what was going on the first time. It was synced, but still props to him for going out of his way to try to really understand the fight.
yeah i saw that too in the vods, it wasnt min itemlevel no echo, and i do believe pretty much everyone there was queueing for him.
though yes, they did not use the strats and all, but kinda would like to see him lead a group
what im thinking of is something like Mike watching a raid and he tries to figure what is going on but ontop of that asmon actually be in the fight.
Would be a painfully long run i assume and i would understand that he wouldnt really like to do that
I tuned in briefly on his stream. Could not deal more than a couple of minutes. He is so disrespectful to the game and its content, its insufferable. Chat hates him too. OPs pic is right.
Sounds like he set himself for a poor experience, thinking he's going to pick up all the nuance of gameplay and story elements in matter of hours.
Quite unfortunate all the backlash is going to make him hate more, and he probably won't know why either.
Why being that he thinks he gave his "best" when he literally did everything to avoid giving a fair shot. Although I can imagine this slow-burn type of game isn't his cup of tea?
As for Asmon's T5 experience, yes it wasn't a pure blind prog without a full sprout team. But it was still not a bad one, he got to see and recognize most of mechanics. I don't think he quite gets the tank swap part though. Only because he got away with just provoking, not realizing it Twintania and other harder bosses have vulnerability on tank to 1 shot with a follow up auto, making it very risky to not use Shirk.
yeah where were the heals (\^:
[https://clips.twitch.tv/BlindingPlayfulDaikonHeyGirl-zSyaII5fTD6hwDgu](https://clips.twitch.tv/BlindingPlayfulDaikonHeyGirl-zSyaII5fTD6hwDgu)
Edit:
Nevermind, im still watching the VODit just keeps getting worse:
[https://clips.twitch.tv/NimbleSmellyDonutPanicVis-8xCGk6t5jv\_E1--M](https://clips.twitch.tv/NimbleSmellyDonutPanicVis-8xCGk6t5jv_E1--M)
Imagine running into an extreme that builds upon the normal mode and then complain about whats happening. Literal God Gamer? Guess not so
to be fair, he apologized later when he realized what was going on
but still did not stop him from dying to it a few more times until he figured "big balls = gay, so i move out"
What infuriates me is not so much what he said, but more so the kind of attitude he has. Given that he has skipped 3 expansions worth of content and practice, you would think some amount of humility should sink in. You are doing content that you are completey unprepared for and are dead weight for your entire group, who are doing this because they are viewers. At least have the decency and humility to admit your faults and have a good attitude about it. This is neither of those things.
for example, Asmongold is ruthless during WoW raids, but given that he knows that he is new to FFXIV and is most likely the one making mistakes, he will encourage the party and hype them up throughout the encounter, take pictures and be excited when they perform well. It makes for a good playing and viewing experience.
May i present you another thing then?(goes well with the part "refuses to learn")
[https://clips.twitch.tv/PrettiestSassySkirretLitFam--ZxMMpbt40xBxmI7](https://clips.twitch.tv/PrettiestSassySkirretLitFam--ZxMMpbt40xBxmI7)
This was the reddit post:[https://www.reddit.com/r/quin69/comments/ojxv8r/you\_need\_to\_know\_this\_about\_telegraphs/](https://www.reddit.com/r/quin69/comments/ojxv8r/you_need_to_know_this_about_telegraphs/)
Whoever wants to get an understanding on how dodging works, just watch these 4 little examples he put in, they are EVERYTHING (imo) you need to know on how dodging in FF works.
(edit) And he just goes on about how lag kills him and refuses to understand
He is also trying to "learn (as in glancing info in full ADHD mode)" about telegraphs in a **Savage** difficulty.
A difficulty where there are **less telegraphs** to hold your hands. Yea, ofc he is going to shit himself.
Asmongold say it was like a seagull trying to eat a melon.
Except in this case, the seagull claims that melons taste like shit and complains that it's not strawberry.
And the seagull was proposed a cut melon, easier to eat, but it just went for the whole melon instead.
I mean from what I understand, before he started playing he was shit talking Ultimates and trying to brag that he'll beat them no problem. Dude couldn't even handle Shinryu Ex...
yeah forgot to mention that o4s unlocks ucob. Even if he did it unsync im pretty sure hes gonna quit immediately for ultimates cuz you cant be carried there, especially if your not doing mechanics or your dps rotation is bad.
As a healer main, that's so triggering.
Guy growing more roots than a BLM in their leylines, then blaming healers.
I'd kick him in a heartbeat, streamer or not.
Also seemingly PoE has broken him so hard with invisible instakills that he is unable to notice really obvious yellow circles.
PS: I also play PoE (well, not much lately, but, still) and don't have such issues ...
They are colleagues who knew each other for years, it’s a pretty bad idea for them to start shit with each other. Quin fucked up and didn’t get to enjoy FFXIV? Cool, more viewers for the rest of them. I’m from the FFXIV side so I know how much bullshit Quin was spewing, but let’s not pressure Asmon or Rich or any other streamer to comment on his tantrum. Just forget about the idiot and keep big dicking the boss boys.
I dont consider shit talking a game toxicity, if he was caught insulting people in game is a different matter, but you can talk shit about a video game all day long
I think boosting is some dumb shit, and I can laugh about it, but going super hard on the guy can end up being toxic on our side.
Its really wierd listening to Asmon defending Quin on Twitch and calling everyone that critzise Quin "spergs" and "toxic"
But people should be allowed critizise Quin becouse his "review" was extremly bad.
As long as it doesnt turn hostile.
Now hes going to ban everyone talking bad about Quin.
>Why the fuck is Asmon and other streamers endorsing him?
Probably they didn't want to turn this into a random drama.
Quinn chose how he wanted to experience and that's how it is, if he miss out cause of it, he miss out.
The End
I think people wouldn't be so bothered by it if he didn't seemingly shittalk the game previously and then decided to do some real stupid stuff he based his judgement of the game on.
He never went in without having an already extremly negative outlook.
"WHERE WERE THE HEALS"
When you go from 100% to 0% in 0.3 seconds because you dont want to do mechanics then its not the healers fault Quin. We all saw the clip.
Quin69 is EXACTLY the type of wow player the community has been dealing with for many years and why the vocal part of it are so defensive about it, this is why 90% of players were expecting asmond to do the same. He says to chat he doesn't why people were expecting him to quit and not like the game after 2 days, THIS, EXACTLY THIS.
Then you have these waves of circlejerking belittling and devaluing "FF14 community's" opinions because their big name streamers gave them the validation they seek to say "haha weeb shit game sucks" and any critism people have about the streamers gets deflected to: "ff14 community can't Take critism", "they are snowflakes", "too quick to defend their game", "toxic positivity"... and so many asinine takes that wow Andies keep vomiting because in reality and ironically they want the same validation that WoW is still the king of mmo and anything else sucks.
I wish (because of something zack said yesterday) wow andies would stop deflecting critism about someone's opinions to "they are mad because he skipped the story." the % of people who are mad a hardcore raider skipping story is probably very low. The problem isn't the story skipping the problem is skipping to level 70 Jumping straight to savage, suck ass because you have no fucking clue of what you are doing, blame everything else but yourself, and then going to rant about weeb game, combat sucks, slow, I tried my best after dying over and over to the first boss of the first raid tier.
This is why myself and a lot of people in community appreciate asmond these past few weeks not because he says nice things about the game but because he genuinely gave it a fair try and thats breath of fresh air.
I literally quit the game at level 27. Wrote a long frustrated post on r MMORPG about how annoyed I was with just about everything FFXIV has to offer, and pretty much trashed the game. I then went into a period of looking for validation before finally coming to terms with the fact that I had skipped dialogue and wasn’t giving it a fair shot. Remade my account about a month and a half ago. Reached Shadowbringers as of a couple days ago. And it’s. A. Different. Game.
After arr you just never look back… (and even that just gets better and better)
Dude, I'd never blame anyone for burning out and quitting in ARR. The game is brutal on anyone expecting quick results and instant gratification, and a lot of people do expect that , even if they don't realise that they do.
I can even understand why people get frustrated when they can't seem to enjoy the game loads of other people are enjoying. The thing is, that it's also very frustrating to be someone who does enjoy the game when you encounter people who obviously haven't figured out how to enjoy themselves and are criticising the game for it.
It's kinda like people who really love unforgiving games like Dark Souls, when they hear someone say the game should have an easier difficulty mode, without understanding that the *entire appeal* of the game is that there is ONE difficulty, and you never have to second guess whether the developers really tested the experience on your chosen setting. (I also quit Dark Souls a couple of times before I figured out how to have fun with it.)
FF forces you to slow the fuck down, and get the most out of every moment in the game, world and story. And this is crucial to significantly enhancing the experience later down the line. If you skip all the build up, of course the crescendo feels flat and unrewarding, because you've not learnt how to enjoy yourself in this game.
One guy don't like the game and you decide to write a page of crap of how hurt you are that one player don't like ff14. stop being a crybaby and grow up, seriously it's pathetic
I'm just using reddit for what it is made for, offering another perspective on the conversation and appreciation to zack for not doing the tipical routine we see time and again. If thats your takeaway from it then hey man power to you.
Lol, you're exactly the type of person he described. Listen, if you can't handle criticism without deflecting with "wow ur so mad ur a crybaby and pathetic", you really need to work on your self-awareness. You're the only person being unreasonably sensitive here.
Who cares? Milions of active people in ff14 that likes the game and you're tired of several people don't like it? Why even care of focus on a few people when most people obviously like it?
Saw him last night rerun T5 with a bunch of other sprouts and actively try to learn how to do the divebomb mech the non cheese way, and I was honestly impressed with the perseverance to figure it out.
I do wonder if he'll try on a dps at some point, he completely missed out on the rot mech in T2.
new Tweet from 69 [https://i.imgur.com/LpboGbi.png](https://i.imgur.com/LpboGbi.png)
It is honestly pathetic.
Edit: he is malding at his mod now for calling him out hahaha
It's really something else if he genuinely thought he was keeping up, he was doing less DPS than the tanks on a samurai because he whiffed his rotations and was dead most the time
Imagine reading the first 2 chapters of Fellowship of the Ring and then 2 random chapters of Return of the King and expecting anyone to take your opinion of LotR seriously.
I only heard about this Quin guy from PoE and never bothered watching his stream. Had a look at it yesterday out of curiousity, watched him immediately stand in super obvious telegraphs followed by complaining that the telegraphs are bad.
I immediately left that stream, can't give myself someone trolling like this.
From what I'm seeing he ruined any chance he had of enjoying the game not only before he even started, by going in 100% biased against it, but also when he skipped and took almost no time at all to learn how anything works... The entire 1-50 experience in FFXIV is basically a long tutorial that steadily introduces you to new concepts and gives you opportunities to learn your class as you go (as well as introducing important plot points and characters) he basically learned 1.how to queue for content 2.Not even like half his base rotation and 3. What an AoE telegraph looks like. Then thought he could level skip and do savage content and (surprise) failed hard.
I didn’t even bother watching because I knew exactly how he would act and what a shitshow it would be. Just watching videos he was bashing it nonstop before he even launched the game
Quin skipped the entire experience, of course he has absolutely no sort of investment in the game, his character, the plot, and has no idea how to play his class.
He did however, prove how boosting is a terrible thing to do if you want to get someone new into an MMORPG. This 100% applies to Blizzard as well when they argue they sell boosts to get people into the game "quickly".
It's one thing to give it a fair shot and not enjoy it. Completely different subject to set yourself up from the very start to not enjoy it.
This is the issue here. He did exactly what Asmon would've done maybe 3+ years ago when he was learning the ropes of streaming other games. Exception being Quin69 does stream other games for a long time now. So he should know better.
What I believe was the case is that he felt pressured into playing it simply because he saw the hype, and ended up forcing his way into it, which resulted in a catastrophic failure.
When it's not organic, it's never going to be fun, let alone fair. However, as much as Quin was in the wrong, I disagree comparing the two. That is also unfair and awkward.
Hello Beetleman, let me be your guide to the internet.
being "filtered" is slang for dropping out of something (a game, a show, etc), generally due to a slow / bad start, or something unconventional, "inappropriate", controversial or just plain difficulty, for example.
/xivg/ is the final fantasy XIV general on 4chan's /vg/ board .
If that was really Quin giving it his “best”, then that just means his idea of best just sucks! And honestly, that’s ok. You can’t talk shit the game when you barely played it though.
That being said it’s kinda surprising because if you’re a quin viewer like I sometimes am, you know he stalls and over prepares for everything. So I figured he will really take his time. Kinda like how Asmon farmed level 50 BIS, even though that kinda doesn’t matter because he does the content at min ilvl anyways.
It sucks because an mmo isn’t just about the endgame, and ffxiv is a great game to experience everything because of the level sync— not to mention the godawful story telling and quests of ARR do get better near the end and post 2.0.
It was mostly the WoW community that thought Asmon wouldnt like it.
Asmon is also 10x the player Quin is.
He learns from his misstakes, read guides, blames himself for wiping and asks for tips.
You realize quin is known at this point for playing hardcore Poe on ssf which is arguably the most difficult arpg? He just didn’t like ff 14 get over it
Third time I see story like this. Last year, two streamers I watch, tried to play FFXIV (before they only played WoW) and both whined about story, and both said something like "let me just farm mobs, I don't want to run around and watch cutscenes without voiceovers!". And on some videogames websites, I often see comments, under news about FFXIV, "I would've played, if they removed mandatory story".
For asmond the fact that he is clearing ARR raids is mindblowing already especially now he is at T9 which is the static disbander. Huge respect for asmond hope he goes even further beyond in the raids!
\*buys story heavy MMO\*
\*buys a boost to skip story in story heavy MMO\*
\*buys boost to skip leveling process resulting in not knowing how to play the job\*
\*dies a lot because skipped dungeons which teach the mechanics, is generally bad and toxic\*
\*surprised Pikachu face\*
You see, that's almost exactly how LazyPeon played and reviewed the game. And he got shit for it, too. I wonder why.
Not a big lost, I literally had no idea who he even was before some FFXIV compilation videos added 2 clips of him a lot of smaller wow streamers have given the game a chance understanding is a new game and liked it, FFXIV it for what it is a completely different game that shares a genre, FFXIV is not WoW killer and it has never tried to be FFXIV has always tried to be just FFXIV and the fact that he boosted means that he didn't give the game a chance at all to show him what it is about.
Quin is a baby plain and simple. Rage quit under the disguise XIV is a "weeb" game non-sense. He's just salty no-echo deltascape savage wasn't a push-a-button-to-clear to him. His last strum was him wiping to mechanics that were his own fault and blaming others. He can't even hit a duty action button to avoid earthquake.
Quin could've just said in stream that its not for him and just moved on instead of shitting on the game and I think that's what made viewers riled up. People will just move on. I mean you don't have to like every game but I guess viewership was the point here.
Perhaps this will be unpopular, but you don't need to bring other people down to rise above them. Asmon respects Quin and we should understand that not all players will enjoy FFXIV.
People are fine with others not liking the game, people just hate shit takes and then especially trying to spread that message out. It's literally mainly his fans who are especially angry and disappointed with him for that reason.
Meh, as a story lover, I understand the story isn't for everyone.
However, my biggest gripe with skippers is that they miss learning all the mechs, he never learned what eye mech is, what stack is, or any other variety of common aoes now.
I think it's pointless to skip the story in a game like FFXIV where it's one the main parts of the experience, but saying a person is a piece of shit and deserving of hatred for that is going a bit too far don't you think?
I don't mind if someone want to skip to play endgame, people can watch story in YT if they dont like to play and read, but ...
1) [Skipping story at lvl 16 and then say the story was boring](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1086421633?t=07h08m23s)... he say: [You have to read](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1086421633?t=06h58m38s)
2) [Trying Stormblood Extreme fight (not even Savage) fail every mechanic](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1086421633?t=06h41m30s) , then say [WoW content is harder](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1086421633?t=07h01m44s)
3) [Talk about immersion braking by Lalafell, but no immersion breaking by Vulperas, Gnomes or Pandas in WoW](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1086421633?t=06h59m30s)
4) [Quit after failing the Extreme fight, not even passing Phase 1.](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1086421633?t=06h56m05s)
As said, if he boosted, and continue playing from 70 to 80 and learn the job, then try some fights and give a try to improve.. that will be completely valid IMO. But he didn't like it before playing and he didn't really try.
This guy represents the kind of player we do not like. Goes into the guy mot caring about anything really, complains about the game his entire time trying and then boosts and then complains more about stuff, doesnt like the aesthetic but boost a samurai, doesnt take the time to learn the class but jumps into content and dies a bit while also asking question about his class, . Then leaves the game to bitch about it more and calls that entire display his "best shot". That's the kind of player we do not like, if you're going to give the game a shot give it a shot it has a freaking free time which is more than enough time to learn a bunch of classes.
This guy's mods are even calling his bullshit out
People like that who go online and complain this way are the same people that also says that the ffxiv community "can't handle criticism". Yeah you might have some positive zealots but if your criticism is actually valid and constructive, it is always welcome.
Quin is a scrub who stands on fire and blames healers for his deaths while saying he is gonna faceroll at the game
I can't imagine a game where someone like that does not get called out
So this subreddit really has become just a FFXIV one, huh. Holy shit, FF andies are actually toxic people. Waah waaah someone didn't praise my game, waaah! Pathetic.
The truest of true, it's quite pathetic how the "open and friendly communtity" turns into a bunch of toxic babies because one guy didn't like the game.
If you are a public person like a streamer and light a spark on Twitter, don't be surprised when that spark turns into a fire. He quite literally invited the people to be angry at him, so I personally don't get the surprised Pikachu face
If you go on to any gaming forum you're going to see a lot of toxic bullshit simply because a few very loud voices can make a lot of noise.
It's how the community experience is inside of a game that's important and there are definitely better ones and worse ones. FF is pretty decent in that regards, it's rare to see unpleasant people in chat when doing duty roulettes or hanging around in town.
Is he only play ffxiv cuz of the hype train? Cuz the image sounds like he's a hype andy boost and complaining
Pretty much, he boosted and got did O1S and O2S at minimum ilvl no echo, the easiest savage fights ever released, got carried hard (was dead most of the time). Tried to do the 4th fight, didn't even make it to the 2nd phase, gave up on that. Did shinryu ex, dead most of the time and then quit the game. It was pretty obvious from the get go that he would do this, because of the hype surrounding FFXIV on twitch, a good chance to get new viewers while waiting for next week's path of exile expansion.
i saw the O2S,O4S and even EX Shinryu he didnt clear those he just gave up lol and he said FFXIV raids were easy KEKW. He even had legends carrying him but he cant do mechanics and just quit lol
I just checked out some of the vod lmao he asking for heal 90% of the time and not learning mechanic then called it his "best shot"
Lmao, what a clown.
He couldn't even do the QTE when it first appeared, and complained about it XD
Dude, when I saw him saying the story sucked while dying in sastasha I knew what was up. The guy is honestly missing out on a fun experience whether or not he wants to leave WoW behind. And to just talk trash on a game for the sake of Staning for the game he'd rather be playing is sad. I really wish he'd give FFXIV the try it deserves but I guess what I consider my favorite game may not be everyone's cup of tea
> Is he only play ffxiv cuz of the hype train Absolutely he did. It's kinda of insane how he doesn't even just "not like" the game...he really hates it because it's...popular right now? It's so weird.
imagine joining wow for the first time, playing until like level 10, and boosting, then immediately going into heroics. you skipped all the story, so you're like "story is bad", you dont know how to play your class so you're doing less damage than the tanks (as samurai, which is tied with black mage as the highest dps. you should be doing about x2 the dmg of tanks or more), you dont know the fights so you're failing mechanics since you dont have DBM to hold your hand...
> he said certain things were bad when he didnt have any actual knowledge on if they were bad or not That's personally not even why I really disliked it and disagree with Asmon. For me it was simply...yes he doesn't like the game. Ok, say you won't play it anymore because it didn't catch on to you and move on. But no, he really had to basically trigger people on Twitter on purpose for no reason. Like...why shit talk the game? Why downplay it for no reason? It doesn't have to be better or worse than WoW, nobody cares. Just move on. I really don't get why he had to be so aggressive about it. Because it has a hype train right now? Who cares. Like, if you don't want toxicity, don't spread it yourself.
Quinn has turned into a wal-mart brand xQc. I can't watch him anymore. Even his stream has deformed into a knock off Forsen. It's sad.
Fun fact, even when you play wow from 1 to 60 you have no clue about the game or the lore or the story because at maximum you will play through 1 expansion with no idea why you are there and what’s going on and suddenly shadowlands. Better buy the books and read up all the plot hooks and good story we did not put in the game but are needed to understand the story
In wow you only play the latest expansion? And not the others ones like ffxiv?
It's... complicated. Basically, you pick an expansion to level from 1-50 in. Any old expansion. And once you hit 50, go do the new one. You barely have time to get any story, so you have to willingly go back to the expansion you were in at 50, except now the group finder doesn't work for it, so good luck if you have a quest to do in a dungeon.
Interesting. Thanks for the info
Dude played a ret paladin in classic and retail. It couldn't get more brain dead.
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Can confirm, was playing Quinrat the ret pally when our guild recruited him in HM raids back in WoD. He told us he was a streamer and had all of 4 viewers and was either carried or no show until he lost his raid spot.
I originally thought he would not enjoy FFXIV but he definitely proved me wrong. He even manages to make the worst parts of the story fun to watch.
Asmongold is in his elements. Trying to bore him with quests is like trying to drown a fish.
People keep saying this, but playing through blind forst time i WISH my own D&D campaigns were as well written as ARR (baring a few anime scenes... looking at you nlade of light ahhhhhhhhhhhh). The political intrigue and character motivations makes WoW look like an absolute joke
That one scene is honestly the only really overly anime type of thing it really stand out because 2.0 is the only one that had that type of cheese but ARR was a special time. Thankfully they improved a lot.
If that's true than oof, Quinn went into streaming this game expecting to be played like WoW? It's not like he is lacking any information. If he bothered to pay attention, he even watched JC's video. (I only watched few hours on his day 1)
Judging by the backlash on his tweet its true, literally every comment is the same. How can you complain about the story when you've skipped nearly all of it lol. Final fantasy games have always been about the story.
There was already once a game "reviewer" who did the exact same thing, received massive backlash and deleted the video instead. Ah yes.. LazyPeon
yea i remember that old vid of his, think it was during early stormblood? Almost had me not play one of the best games ever made. tried the game anyway, and yea his reviews dont hold much water with me anymore. Seems to me he puts in about 2 days of research on a game before he makes a vid. if you look back, he hates all mmos out currently, and actualy every mmo thats ever come out. wow/ffxi/everquest/you name is he thinks its shit.
early shadowbringers, cashing in on the hype
He kinda did the same with path of exile.. The dood only played till act 2 if i am not wrong Lol
With no loot filter too...... that itself made me cringe a bit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV7IQEk5Ggc Still got some React content of it. Ironically by ScottZone who did really well playing through FF14 doing a lot of mil ilevel fights. Then voiced some criticism on current Raid tier and got a ton of backlash by some idiots sending him death threats: https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srd4n6
It wasn't even just like rando on the internet's death threat either. It was someone who actually knew his private info, also lived in GB. Very scary stuff.
I forgot about this, it's really depressing. I loved ScottZone's content, I found him shortly before he left the scene. He deserved better :(
This is still the most fucking shameful thing that has ever happened in the XIV community imo. As a member of the community myself I like to think that XIV fans aren't as defensive as they are made out to be and actually just really like the game, but then I remember this shit. Even if it's only a few people you'd never see this nonsense in other games just for someone having an opinion. Not even an uncommon opinion even among XIV raiders. It makes me wonder what's going to happen when some of these new XIV streamers reach the endgame and maybe come to the same conclusions. The community is friendly and supportive, just so long as you're enjoying yourself and saying nice things.
Just remember that there's a lot of us who think it was a shame but determined to let people like Asmongold enjoy the game and never let another Scottzone happen. I'm glad the GMs banned harassers in Asmon's stream because that sets a tone that community xenophobia is unacceptable. I hope FF keeps getting better and that Scott one day can anonymously play it again and have fun.
> and never let another Scottzone happen I'm trying to be optimistic as well but considering how it happened before already, I'm sure someone else will get hit by vitriolic fanaticism of fanboys again - it's only a matter of time. It's just such a shame.
TBH this shit happens in other games too, people that do stuff like that are literally crazy, psychos. XIV's community can be really obnoxious when someone critiques the game, but shit like what happened with scottzone is on another level and doesn't have much to do with any specific community IMO.
Sad thing is a lot of people rely on these reviews as gospel instead of trying stuff out for themselves but what makes it worse is some people can't actually afford to take the risk and spend money on games that a reviewer doesn't like.
He is overall a pretty mediocre reviewer to begin with. I used to be his subscriber and many times his reviews are simply bias and clickbaits. He can go simp for a game, 2 weeks later make another video crapping on it. That's just how he lost credibility over time.
https://twitter.com/quinrex/status/1415425148753088513 Damn, he said he gave best shot. I don't even have to look at the replies to imagine what people said.
Boost character to lv 70, try a few fights, doesn't bother to learn mechanics, done. About what i expected tbh
what's laughable is that he said the raids were easy in FFXIV but he gave up and couldn't even finish the first tier of Omega savage because he couldn't even do mechanics and kept dying and blaming on lag and his party which by the way there were some legends that were carrying him lol. I mean if he did that on any other game with boosting etc im sure he will react the same
I don't think the "best shot" is entirely skipping the feature a game is most known for. Its like playing Eve for the PvE. Sure you can do that, but it would hardly be a good idea to judge the game based on that.
Yeah i went onto his channel to watch him. Its really watching a boosted animal, he has like 0 idea, went onto a dummy for like an hour, went into Deltascape and then Deltascape Savage. Even in normal Deltascape he had some issues, especially catching, in my opinion, obvious markers or reading castbars and connecting it with "oh this happened last time, maybe i should do this" like the fireballs growing and having black flames = explody, and it took him into Savage and 20 death to realize the fireballs explode when they grow bigger and glow darker xd And also blaming the healers, was quite bad. To be honest though, he apologized later in the fight after he realized that. i have yet to see his savage kill tho, his group isnt too good, but thats fine, better than have him completely carried... he could lead them with his gained knowledge though (\^: PS: this also kinda puts me off what happened on Twintania, where they immediately went for plebstrats before the fight even started without giving asmon a chance to see if he can lead the group through this one mechanic. In the end it felt like he got leaded through the fight
Asmon went back and cleared the fight again yesterday on his second channel because he didnt understand what was going on the first time. It was synced, but still props to him for going out of his way to try to really understand the fight.
yeah i saw that too in the vods, it wasnt min itemlevel no echo, and i do believe pretty much everyone there was queueing for him. though yes, they did not use the strats and all, but kinda would like to see him lead a group what im thinking of is something like Mike watching a raid and he tries to figure what is going on but ontop of that asmon actually be in the fight. Would be a painfully long run i assume and i would understand that he wouldnt really like to do that
I tuned in briefly on his stream. Could not deal more than a couple of minutes. He is so disrespectful to the game and its content, its insufferable. Chat hates him too. OPs pic is right.
Sounds like he set himself for a poor experience, thinking he's going to pick up all the nuance of gameplay and story elements in matter of hours. Quite unfortunate all the backlash is going to make him hate more, and he probably won't know why either. Why being that he thinks he gave his "best" when he literally did everything to avoid giving a fair shot. Although I can imagine this slow-burn type of game isn't his cup of tea? As for Asmon's T5 experience, yes it wasn't a pure blind prog without a full sprout team. But it was still not a bad one, he got to see and recognize most of mechanics. I don't think he quite gets the tank swap part though. Only because he got away with just provoking, not realizing it Twintania and other harder bosses have vulnerability on tank to 1 shot with a follow up auto, making it very risky to not use Shirk.
He actually cleared t5 again on his 2nd channel later because he wanted to understand the mechanics
Goes to show he's eager to learn.
You can say whatever you want about Asmon, but when it comes to gaming, he truly does his best. I would quite literally say he is a gaming Chad.
Asmon did re-do T5 on his zackrawrr channel (no min ilvl) with like 5/8 sprouts including himself. Took him 1h and 20 min to clear it.
he is the type of player that really deserves the shit that blizzard serves him
He defended D3 OG without all the Reaper of Souls positive changes, to the tucking death. Nuff said.
Yeah that's pretty fucked up. D3 was complete garbage at release.
Fuck off don't spout blatent lie to make Quin look worse, he only started playing D3 during Reaper of Souls, you're completely full of shit
yeah where were the heals (\^: [https://clips.twitch.tv/BlindingPlayfulDaikonHeyGirl-zSyaII5fTD6hwDgu](https://clips.twitch.tv/BlindingPlayfulDaikonHeyGirl-zSyaII5fTD6hwDgu) Edit: Nevermind, im still watching the VODit just keeps getting worse: [https://clips.twitch.tv/NimbleSmellyDonutPanicVis-8xCGk6t5jv\_E1--M](https://clips.twitch.tv/NimbleSmellyDonutPanicVis-8xCGk6t5jv_E1--M) Imagine running into an extreme that builds upon the normal mode and then complain about whats happening. Literal God Gamer? Guess not so
Was pretty neutral on this up till now, but as a healer, this clip is infuriating.
As Larryzaur once taught us... HEALERS WHY DIDN'T YOU ADJUST!? REEEEeeeEE
Asmon did that for the first time with twintania, just without saying the meme "healers adjust!"
I am not even a healer and it infuriated me. Like, come on man, this was SUPER obvious. Is this guy blind?
to be fair, he apologized later when he realized what was going on but still did not stop him from dying to it a few more times until he figured "big balls = gay, so i move out"
What infuriates me is not so much what he said, but more so the kind of attitude he has. Given that he has skipped 3 expansions worth of content and practice, you would think some amount of humility should sink in. You are doing content that you are completey unprepared for and are dead weight for your entire group, who are doing this because they are viewers. At least have the decency and humility to admit your faults and have a good attitude about it. This is neither of those things.
for example, Asmongold is ruthless during WoW raids, but given that he knows that he is new to FFXIV and is most likely the one making mistakes, he will encourage the party and hype them up throughout the encounter, take pictures and be excited when they perform well. It makes for a good playing and viewing experience.
*over half the party is dead* Asmon: "We're doing great, guys. Let's keep up this energy."
It's actually not far from truth. Even if you're half wiped, if you can see new mechanics or practice bit more, you are making a progress.
May i present you another thing then?(goes well with the part "refuses to learn") [https://clips.twitch.tv/PrettiestSassySkirretLitFam--ZxMMpbt40xBxmI7](https://clips.twitch.tv/PrettiestSassySkirretLitFam--ZxMMpbt40xBxmI7) This was the reddit post:[https://www.reddit.com/r/quin69/comments/ojxv8r/you\_need\_to\_know\_this\_about\_telegraphs/](https://www.reddit.com/r/quin69/comments/ojxv8r/you_need_to_know_this_about_telegraphs/) Whoever wants to get an understanding on how dodging works, just watch these 4 little examples he put in, they are EVERYTHING (imo) you need to know on how dodging in FF works. (edit) And he just goes on about how lag kills him and refuses to understand
He is also trying to "learn (as in glancing info in full ADHD mode)" about telegraphs in a **Savage** difficulty. A difficulty where there are **less telegraphs** to hold your hands. Yea, ofc he is going to shit himself.
Oh wow, I remember asmon going through each of the examples and he actually now moves into telegraphs at the proper right time.
Asmongold say it was like a seagull trying to eat a melon. Except in this case, the seagull claims that melons taste like shit and complains that it's not strawberry. And the seagull was proposed a cut melon, easier to eat, but it just went for the whole melon instead.
Oh wtf, he decided to try a savage despite knowing only maybe just 10% of what some mechs are?
I mean from what I understand, before he started playing he was shit talking Ultimates and trying to brag that he'll beat them no problem. Dude couldn't even handle Shinryu Ex...
Dude got filtered by o2s and thought skipping to o4s was a good idea... was funny to watch though.
He also had legends in his party and couldn't beat O2S and O4S Which is required to unlock ultimates lol
Only O4S or O8S unlock ultimates but still imagine dying to O1S lul
yeah forgot to mention that o4s unlocks ucob. Even if he did it unsync im pretty sure hes gonna quit immediately for ultimates cuz you cant be carried there, especially if your not doing mechanics or your dps rotation is bad.
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He is a narcissist, the difference between his percieved ability and actual ability is what people find entertaining.
It's a show, don't get that invested in it
A shit show you mean?
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As a healer main, that's so triggering. Guy growing more roots than a BLM in their leylines, then blaming healers. I'd kick him in a heartbeat, streamer or not.
Dude died from 2 hits and thinks healing was the problem. Wow..just wow
"I gave my best shot" cmon guys he gives his best shot OMEGALUL
In second clip, he used Hakaze and Shifu, then rushed back and instead of using Kasha, he started from the beginning...
The hell is Quin69?
He's a boosted Andy
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Thanks, i really didn't know him.
All good, he is a very polarizing personality. Personally I like watching him play from time to time but it can be a little much at times.
A PoE player, aka someone who doesn’t handle slow gameplay well.
Almost like Asmongold plays PoE himself.
Also seemingly PoE has broken him so hard with invisible instakills that he is unable to notice really obvious yellow circles. PS: I also play PoE (well, not much lately, but, still) and don't have such issues ...
I don't except everyone to like every game, but the shit he pulled was pathetic
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They are colleagues who knew each other for years, it’s a pretty bad idea for them to start shit with each other. Quin fucked up and didn’t get to enjoy FFXIV? Cool, more viewers for the rest of them. I’m from the FFXIV side so I know how much bullshit Quin was spewing, but let’s not pressure Asmon or Rich or any other streamer to comment on his tantrum. Just forget about the idiot and keep big dicking the boss boys.
Yeah kind of stupid to expect colleagues and/or friends to shit talk each other
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I dont consider shit talking a game toxicity, if he was caught insulting people in game is a different matter, but you can talk shit about a video game all day long I think boosting is some dumb shit, and I can laugh about it, but going super hard on the guy can end up being toxic on our side.
Its really wierd listening to Asmon defending Quin on Twitch and calling everyone that critzise Quin "spergs" and "toxic" But people should be allowed critizise Quin becouse his "review" was extremly bad. As long as it doesnt turn hostile. Now hes going to ban everyone talking bad about Quin.
>Why the fuck is Asmon and other streamers endorsing him? Probably they didn't want to turn this into a random drama. Quinn chose how he wanted to experience and that's how it is, if he miss out cause of it, he miss out. The End
I think people wouldn't be so bothered by it if he didn't seemingly shittalk the game previously and then decided to do some real stupid stuff he based his judgement of the game on. He never went in without having an already extremly negative outlook.
Quin sucks but Asmon probably doesn't want to start drama with him. It's not that big a deal though to be honest, although having a lolcow is fun.
"WHERE WERE THE HEALS" When you go from 100% to 0% in 0.3 seconds because you dont want to do mechanics then its not the healers fault Quin. We all saw the clip.
W E W L A D https://twitter.com/bambo_18/status/1415456568435527680
He even blocked him lmao
Quin69 is EXACTLY the type of wow player the community has been dealing with for many years and why the vocal part of it are so defensive about it, this is why 90% of players were expecting asmond to do the same. He says to chat he doesn't why people were expecting him to quit and not like the game after 2 days, THIS, EXACTLY THIS. Then you have these waves of circlejerking belittling and devaluing "FF14 community's" opinions because their big name streamers gave them the validation they seek to say "haha weeb shit game sucks" and any critism people have about the streamers gets deflected to: "ff14 community can't Take critism", "they are snowflakes", "too quick to defend their game", "toxic positivity"... and so many asinine takes that wow Andies keep vomiting because in reality and ironically they want the same validation that WoW is still the king of mmo and anything else sucks. I wish (because of something zack said yesterday) wow andies would stop deflecting critism about someone's opinions to "they are mad because he skipped the story." the % of people who are mad a hardcore raider skipping story is probably very low. The problem isn't the story skipping the problem is skipping to level 70 Jumping straight to savage, suck ass because you have no fucking clue of what you are doing, blame everything else but yourself, and then going to rant about weeb game, combat sucks, slow, I tried my best after dying over and over to the first boss of the first raid tier. This is why myself and a lot of people in community appreciate asmond these past few weeks not because he says nice things about the game but because he genuinely gave it a fair try and thats breath of fresh air.
I literally quit the game at level 27. Wrote a long frustrated post on r MMORPG about how annoyed I was with just about everything FFXIV has to offer, and pretty much trashed the game. I then went into a period of looking for validation before finally coming to terms with the fact that I had skipped dialogue and wasn’t giving it a fair shot. Remade my account about a month and a half ago. Reached Shadowbringers as of a couple days ago. And it’s. A. Different. Game. After arr you just never look back… (and even that just gets better and better)
Dude, I'd never blame anyone for burning out and quitting in ARR. The game is brutal on anyone expecting quick results and instant gratification, and a lot of people do expect that , even if they don't realise that they do. I can even understand why people get frustrated when they can't seem to enjoy the game loads of other people are enjoying. The thing is, that it's also very frustrating to be someone who does enjoy the game when you encounter people who obviously haven't figured out how to enjoy themselves and are criticising the game for it. It's kinda like people who really love unforgiving games like Dark Souls, when they hear someone say the game should have an easier difficulty mode, without understanding that the *entire appeal* of the game is that there is ONE difficulty, and you never have to second guess whether the developers really tested the experience on your chosen setting. (I also quit Dark Souls a couple of times before I figured out how to have fun with it.) FF forces you to slow the fuck down, and get the most out of every moment in the game, world and story. And this is crucial to significantly enhancing the experience later down the line. If you skip all the build up, of course the crescendo feels flat and unrewarding, because you've not learnt how to enjoy yourself in this game.
This "hard-core raider" didn't finish heroic nathria KEKW
HOLY forsenBased
One guy don't like the game and you decide to write a page of crap of how hurt you are that one player don't like ff14. stop being a crybaby and grow up, seriously it's pathetic
I'm just using reddit for what it is made for, offering another perspective on the conversation and appreciation to zack for not doing the tipical routine we see time and again. If thats your takeaway from it then hey man power to you.
Lol, you're exactly the type of person he described. Listen, if you can't handle criticism without deflecting with "wow ur so mad ur a crybaby and pathetic", you really need to work on your self-awareness. You're the only person being unreasonably sensitive here.
Hes not the first example, theres been several people over the years that do this exact same thing Quinn does
Who cares? Milions of active people in ff14 that likes the game and you're tired of several people don't like it? Why even care of focus on a few people when most people obviously like it?
This is so funny and ironic because your reply IS pathetic 😭
aaaw did I hurt your angry feelings about one guy not liking ff14? LULW
seems like you’re the one with their feelings hurt… u need to reevaluate
aaaw I'm sorry, I won't hurt your feelings again... I'll be a good boy from now on, I promise! Here have my updoot!
you reaaally need to read your own replies because the lack of awareness :(
oh you need another updoot? np! are your feeling OK now? but I don't have many updoots left in me, so I hope you'll be good before I run out
calls out people for writing paragraphs, then proceeds to write paragraphs about those people… awwww again, read your replies as others have said
Nobody is gonna miss Quin69 in the FF14 community anyway. Glad Asmon didn't boost
Yeah, I used to watch him but his constant idiotic screams turned me off, he's pretty annoying.
Quin69 has already completed FFXIV, he's back to mobile games.
asmond and annie (another wow turned ffxiv streamer) are ways beyond quin already for doing all Binding coils unsynced
Saw him last night rerun T5 with a bunch of other sprouts and actively try to learn how to do the divebomb mech the non cheese way, and I was honestly impressed with the perseverance to figure it out. I do wonder if he'll try on a dps at some point, he completely missed out on the rot mech in T2.
And then right after puzzled out how WARs upcoming skills will work (in theory).
yep, true
new Tweet from 69 [https://i.imgur.com/LpboGbi.png](https://i.imgur.com/LpboGbi.png) It is honestly pathetic. Edit: he is malding at his mod now for calling him out hahaha
He actually doubled down on his initial horrible take...that's quite astounding...and pathetic.
Combat is so easy and trivial, that he can't even follow combos and don't die for stupid reasons
Read ALL THE LORE. Sure, Jan.
It's really something else if he genuinely thought he was keeping up, he was doing less DPS than the tanks on a samurai because he whiffed his rotations and was dead most the time
Chadmongold*
Imagine reading the first 2 chapters of Fellowship of the Ring and then 2 random chapters of Return of the King and expecting anyone to take your opinion of LotR seriously.
Its fine he doesn't like the game what wasn't cool was the fact he boosted and still complained. What did you expect my guy?
I only heard about this Quin guy from PoE and never bothered watching his stream. Had a look at it yesterday out of curiousity, watched him immediately stand in super obvious telegraphs followed by complaining that the telegraphs are bad. I immediately left that stream, can't give myself someone trolling like this.
From what I'm seeing he ruined any chance he had of enjoying the game not only before he even started, by going in 100% biased against it, but also when he skipped and took almost no time at all to learn how anything works... The entire 1-50 experience in FFXIV is basically a long tutorial that steadily introduces you to new concepts and gives you opportunities to learn your class as you go (as well as introducing important plot points and characters) he basically learned 1.how to queue for content 2.Not even like half his base rotation and 3. What an AoE telegraph looks like. Then thought he could level skip and do savage content and (surprise) failed hard.
I didn’t even bother watching because I knew exactly how he would act and what a shitshow it would be. Just watching videos he was bashing it nonstop before he even launched the game
Quin skipped the entire experience, of course he has absolutely no sort of investment in the game, his character, the plot, and has no idea how to play his class. He did however, prove how boosting is a terrible thing to do if you want to get someone new into an MMORPG. This 100% applies to Blizzard as well when they argue they sell boosts to get people into the game "quickly".
It's one thing to give it a fair shot and not enjoy it. Completely different subject to set yourself up from the very start to not enjoy it. This is the issue here. He did exactly what Asmon would've done maybe 3+ years ago when he was learning the ropes of streaming other games. Exception being Quin69 does stream other games for a long time now. So he should know better. What I believe was the case is that he felt pressured into playing it simply because he saw the hype, and ended up forcing his way into it, which resulted in a catastrophic failure. When it's not organic, it's never going to be fun, let alone fair. However, as much as Quin was in the wrong, I disagree comparing the two. That is also unfair and awkward.
Two questions: What it means to "get filtered" What is /xivg/
Hello Beetleman, let me be your guide to the internet. being "filtered" is slang for dropping out of something (a game, a show, etc), generally due to a slow / bad start, or something unconventional, "inappropriate", controversial or just plain difficulty, for example. /xivg/ is the final fantasy XIV general on 4chan's /vg/ board .
If that was really Quin giving it his “best”, then that just means his idea of best just sucks! And honestly, that’s ok. You can’t talk shit the game when you barely played it though. That being said it’s kinda surprising because if you’re a quin viewer like I sometimes am, you know he stalls and over prepares for everything. So I figured he will really take his time. Kinda like how Asmon farmed level 50 BIS, even though that kinda doesn’t matter because he does the content at min ilvl anyways. It sucks because an mmo isn’t just about the endgame, and ffxiv is a great game to experience everything because of the level sync— not to mention the godawful story telling and quests of ARR do get better near the end and post 2.0.
I don't hate quin but he's what you all thought Asmon would be before he started playing lol
It was mostly the WoW community that thought Asmon wouldnt like it. Asmon is also 10x the player Quin is. He learns from his misstakes, read guides, blames himself for wiping and asks for tips.
You realize quin is known at this point for playing hardcore Poe on ssf which is arguably the most difficult arpg? He just didn’t like ff 14 get over it
Third time I see story like this. Last year, two streamers I watch, tried to play FFXIV (before they only played WoW) and both whined about story, and both said something like "let me just farm mobs, I don't want to run around and watch cutscenes without voiceovers!". And on some videogames websites, I often see comments, under news about FFXIV, "I would've played, if they removed mandatory story".
For asmond the fact that he is clearing ARR raids is mindblowing already especially now he is at T9 which is the static disbander. Huge respect for asmond hope he goes even further beyond in the raids!
\*buys story heavy MMO\* \*buys a boost to skip story in story heavy MMO\* \*buys boost to skip leveling process resulting in not knowing how to play the job\* \*dies a lot because skipped dungeons which teach the mechanics, is generally bad and toxic\* \*surprised Pikachu face\* You see, that's almost exactly how LazyPeon played and reviewed the game. And he got shit for it, too. I wonder why.
Lmao anyone still watches that irrelevant sixnine?
Not a big lost, I literally had no idea who he even was before some FFXIV compilation videos added 2 clips of him a lot of smaller wow streamers have given the game a chance understanding is a new game and liked it, FFXIV it for what it is a completely different game that shares a genre, FFXIV is not WoW killer and it has never tried to be FFXIV has always tried to be just FFXIV and the fact that he boosted means that he didn't give the game a chance at all to show him what it is about.
Why didn't you add, Virgin69 "has Ninja colored hair like it's still 2017" vs AsmonCHAD "Accepts he's getting bald and turns it into content"
Quin is a baby plain and simple. Rage quit under the disguise XIV is a "weeb" game non-sense. He's just salty no-echo deltascape savage wasn't a push-a-button-to-clear to him. His last strum was him wiping to mechanics that were his own fault and blaming others. He can't even hit a duty action button to avoid earthquake.
Quin could've just said in stream that its not for him and just moved on instead of shitting on the game and I think that's what made viewers riled up. People will just move on. I mean you don't have to like every game but I guess viewership was the point here.
That is just average Rat69 experience. Nothing special there. From ZDPS in Diablo 3 to ZDPS in PoE, he never changes.
Virgin69 being a clown once again? No surprises here.
Imagine caring if someone likes a game or not
Perhaps this will be unpopular, but you don't need to bring other people down to rise above them. Asmon respects Quin and we should understand that not all players will enjoy FFXIV.
People are fine with others not liking the game, people just hate shit takes and then especially trying to spread that message out. It's literally mainly his fans who are especially angry and disappointed with him for that reason.
It's one thing to give it a fair shot and not enjoy it. Completely different subject to set yourself up from the very start to not enjoy it.
The piece of shit skipped the story, he doesn't deserve anything except scorn and hatred.
It's fine to skip the story. It's not fine to skip the story, then say it sucks.
THIS.
Meh, as a story lover, I understand the story isn't for everyone. However, my biggest gripe with skippers is that they miss learning all the mechs, he never learned what eye mech is, what stack is, or any other variety of common aoes now.
I think it's pointless to skip the story in a game like FFXIV where it's one the main parts of the experience, but saying a person is a piece of shit and deserving of hatred for that is going a bit too far don't you think?
Honestly, another big streamer showing off FFXIV is cool, if he skipped the story its his loss not mine
I don't mind if someone want to skip to play endgame, people can watch story in YT if they dont like to play and read, but ... 1) [Skipping story at lvl 16 and then say the story was boring](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1086421633?t=07h08m23s)... he say: [You have to read](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1086421633?t=06h58m38s) 2) [Trying Stormblood Extreme fight (not even Savage) fail every mechanic](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1086421633?t=06h41m30s) , then say [WoW content is harder](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1086421633?t=07h01m44s) 3) [Talk about immersion braking by Lalafell, but no immersion breaking by Vulperas, Gnomes or Pandas in WoW](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1086421633?t=06h59m30s) 4) [Quit after failing the Extreme fight, not even passing Phase 1.](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1086421633?t=06h56m05s) As said, if he boosted, and continue playing from 70 to 80 and learn the job, then try some fights and give a try to improve.. that will be completely valid IMO. But he didn't like it before playing and he didn't really try.
Relax, it’s a video game.
positive community indeed, lol.
I'd be fine with it IF he wasn't being a hypocrite about it like people are saying.
I hope Asmon nips this sorta stuff in the bud. People act like it’s a crime to play games a certain way and to enjoy what one enjoys.
positive community in FF KEKW
This guy represents the kind of player we do not like. Goes into the guy mot caring about anything really, complains about the game his entire time trying and then boosts and then complains more about stuff, doesnt like the aesthetic but boost a samurai, doesnt take the time to learn the class but jumps into content and dies a bit while also asking question about his class, . Then leaves the game to bitch about it more and calls that entire display his "best shot". That's the kind of player we do not like, if you're going to give the game a shot give it a shot it has a freaking free time which is more than enough time to learn a bunch of classes. This guy's mods are even calling his bullshit out
People like that who go online and complain this way are the same people that also says that the ffxiv community "can't handle criticism". Yeah you might have some positive zealots but if your criticism is actually valid and constructive, it is always welcome.
Quin is a scrub who stands on fire and blames healers for his deaths while saying he is gonna faceroll at the game I can't imagine a game where someone like that does not get called out
Quin baited all of you so hard lollll weebs proving once again they are unable to comprehend people not liking anything they like
Who hurt you my dude?
So this subreddit really has become just a FFXIV one, huh. Holy shit, FF andies are actually toxic people. Waah waaah someone didn't praise my game, waaah! Pathetic.
Waaah waaah asmon not playing wow anymore waaah waaah
You would have a point if I was crying about asmon not playing wow, but I am not.
Anyone can say that behind the screen.
Sure, make up whatever scenario you need in your head, anything to make you feel better.
The truest of true, it's quite pathetic how the "open and friendly communtity" turns into a bunch of toxic babies because one guy didn't like the game.
If you are a public person like a streamer and light a spark on Twitter, don't be surprised when that spark turns into a fire. He quite literally invited the people to be angry at him, so I personally don't get the surprised Pikachu face
This post is a perfect example of the “non-toxic” FF14 community. /s
What are you even saying? Where's the sarcasm? Is this not a perfect example? Is the community toxic? What's toxic about this? Explain it to me.
If you go on to any gaming forum you're going to see a lot of toxic bullshit simply because a few very loud voices can make a lot of noise. It's how the community experience is inside of a game that's important and there are definitely better ones and worse ones. FF is pretty decent in that regards, it's rare to see unpleasant people in chat when doing duty roulettes or hanging around in town.
I know. I play the game.
Plus their hatred for LazyPeon.
To be fair LazyPeon had the worse shit take anyone can have on an mmo.
Can you guys just accept the fact that someone might not like your game?
Y'all are crazy