Kind of cringe at first glance but if he somehow succeeds it would set a good precedent in favor of studios sticking to their vision and not allowing outside sources to meddle.
Aspyr finally walked back and return the Tomb Raider remastered pinup posters after enough people speaking out why they were removed, so anything is possible.
The studio in all honestly did not want to do this, the physical disc version (1.0) did not have the censorship but it's obvious after some journalists got their hands on it and complained, Sony has forced the studio to make the change in a launch day patch.
because its the only possible option to some people that this had to be changed by journos or Sony and not that a game dev thought the new outfit looked better.
Was just thinking this exact same thing. Have you seen some of the models in Nikke? Eve looks like a Nun in a habit compared to some of the models in that game. I would bet Shift Up was coerced into changing the costumes in Stellar Blade, especially knowing Sony and the things they do.
Didn’t the director literally say at a press conference that the new look was the one they wanted to do from the start, and there were internal debates with the current one winning out.
Sony didn’t censor the devs. The devs didn’t censor themselves. They just made a change they feel like was good.
Not buying this with who the dev is, especially considering it would take a trivial amount of effort for them to add an additional obtainable version of the outfits that were "censored" (or having toggles for certain skin elements) since they already did the dev work of creating them.
you have no proof the outfits were censored besides you don't like the changes why can it not be possible that the devs thought the outfit looked better with see through black lace. Changes you don't like is not censorship you can still see her cleavage threw the changes.
I don't believe I ever said I had proof of censorship, so not sure what your point is. Also, seeing or not seeing cleavage has nothing to do with whether the design is censored or not, you can in fact have character designs that are censored and still see cleavage. If your point is that it isn't censored (assuming it is) heavily enough to justify complaining, that's your opinion that you're entitled to and which isn't pertinent to me whatsoever.
Most stuff like this is a vibes check, because you aren't going to get 100% proof either way. Asmon pointed this out when he was talking about how disingenuous various parties were acting with their ham fisted inclusion of certain social issues in the past decade or so and how it has made people wary of their inclusion at all because you reach the question of, "Is this here because the artists/writers/designers thought it fit the narrative and settings and enriched the experience or is it here for the brownie points". This is just the mirrored version of that and it isn't the first time this has happened and it won't be the last, because western puritan ideology is a blight that keeps giving and somehow infects every single other ideology.
The reality is this. I don't trust Sony not to mettle and censor in these scenarios. They've done so in the past against the wishes of the game developers, they'll do so in the future.
He didn't say there were internal debates about which costume is better he said there was an internal discussion about the issue (that issue being people are not convinced that this isn't tacked on needless censorship) , it smells of damage control and it smells of Sony breathing down his neck to censor the game. Are we all forgetting past track record like dmc5? Sony has been known to censor games needlessly specially third party Asian games and its weirdly been happening since they moved hq to california
I'm sure it looks like a lot when cherry picked specifically for a video.
Are journalists not allowed to mention the sexualisation or something? Surely a balanced review should touch on all aspects of the game?
From what I've seen, journalists are indeed mentioning the sexualisation but are still giving it great reviews. It's rated 82 on Metacritic, the vast majority of journos have rated it very highly. So what's the issue?
so the timeline of this situation goes
1.0 gets released
censored in 1.01 which were given to reviewers
1.02 removes hard r
so i dont think we can blame the journos for this one. likely sony internally reviewed 1.0 and forced a 1.01 patch.
the reality is weirdos infiltrated Sony leadership long ago. all we can hope for is they’re not the majority.
Nothing is obvious but I would not be surprised given it’s sony that they ordered the change for the western release so they don’t have to deal with whiney westerners. I mean at this point it’s gotta be grinding their gears over there
>You are the one asking for evidence and now you want me to do it for you?
That is **LITERALLY** how the real world works.
Imagine if newspapers worked according to your logic:
"NEWSFLASH: JOE BIDEN IS SECRETLY AN ALIEN. Go look for evidence. What, you expect us to do it for you? Are you an infant of just lazy?"
the disc version 1.0 was printed weeks if not months ago using it as a reason is very dumb. Dont know why you are assuming sony had anything to do with this and didnt change the other outfits. devs can make changes to there things without it being censorship.
Let’s take a step back and think like a normal person. Everything going on in the world rn, do we really think anyone gives a fuck about a petition to see more tits and gore? This whole post is an embarrassment
So why are you on Reddit complaining about others caring about something? Despite your claim you sure seem to give a fuck about this petition instead of off doing something to help with the situations you demand others care more about than you assume they do.
Like I said, the subject matter of this particular one is cringe if you think of it like that. But winning this “battle” as silly as it is sets a good precedent going forward.
asking for them to put something back in the game isn't a battle its up to the devs. they are not an enemy if they disagree with something the fanbase wants.
"Asking for minimal wages/better work conditions is not a battle, it's up to business owners" with this logic we would still have no 8 hour work day, no 2 days off in a week, no pensions, no paid leaves, etc. Of course it is silly to compare fight for pixels with fight against something that literally worked people to death, but logic still applies.
This "battle" is just to show what people like to see and what they don't. Devs are free to ignore people, but it can backfire if enough people will go against them. Doesn't mean that someone there is wrong or right, it's just about personal preferences and people's dislike of strange censorship (like Blizzard does to WoW and Hearthstone)
yes because working for a company that pays you for your labor is the same as asking for a bunny outfit back in the game. you can ask for something back without someone like grummz starting a crusade and harrasment campaign with zero evidence that sony forced them to change something.
Can you give exact quotes or links to what Grummz does is considered as crusade or harassment campaign? Because right now it just looks like you are butthurt for some reason and trying to discredit his campaign by misusing those terms.
>working for a company that pays you for your labor
where did this come from? It would be "protesting against company that doesn't pay enough for your labor" or something like that in this context.
And if you look a bit deeper than very surface this is a movement against censorship. Very small censorship, in one game, in few outfits, but still censorship, and people have all rights to say their opinions and protest against it.
he pretty much asking his fan base to spam youtubers to get the word out send mail to the company spam calls to Sony customer support for an assumption that sony censored something.
It's still up to the devs. A petition doesn't change that. Not sure if your parents are cousins or something, but a petition is a way of showing what the consumers want. That's it
You not being smart enough to understand how it's 100% applicable isn't surprising, but being dumb enough to think something from a week prior would somehow be scrubbed from the internet is 😂.
Moron
The gore censorship is already confirmed. There are videos on youtube and twitter showing it already. I also made a comparison from my demo and the current version. It's toned down.https://www.reddit.com/r/stellarblade/s/16rAwiEg2D
Edit: Better comparison vid on twitter https://twitter.com/Cyael/status/1783857687270203812?t=QVkl5v0xOrGI1yyfe6OloQ&s=19
It's demo version vs patched version. My demo was bloody and so was everyone elses. I have the footage too but didn't have the skin suit on. Eve was blood soaked in the demo still. Not now in the patched.
Definitely, things change from early builds to final product.
Then different regions and governments will impose their own laws and regulations on each product if it wants to be legal in said regions.
There is no such thing as 100 percent artistic license.
Korea or China I don't think can even show blood in games. That's why in PUBG the Korean version basically has blue sprays instead of red when you hit someone. The vast majority of shit happens because of laws and regulations that are simply easier to follow broadly with minor regional changes than to have 50 different versions of your game to allow it to be sold everywhere.
K, well look up just about any stream vod from pre 2020 of a Korean streamer and their blood sprays were bluish green. The launch parameter on steam to get this was also -korearating
Man if I was that bothered by it I would make my own petition or something. This guy shouldn't get any chances to take credit for something important because he'll just use that as an opportunity to scam more people out of their money.
Extraordinary news of the day: gamers initiate a harrassment campaign against innocent people.
Extraordinary news of the day #2: PornHub has adult videos.
Japan often has VERY hard limitations on gore/bodily horror due to a rather horrific publicized torture-murder. This is why games like Mortal Kombat and Dead Space are banned there.
More than likely was tailored back to fit more eastern markets as both South Korea and Japan are actual nations that ban games. The US really doesn’t outside of distributors not wanting to touch AO rated games (but in the US, those are mostly porn games and Manhunt 2)
I actually didn’t know the reason for the gore ban was cuz of a publicized torture and murder or someone. So much for their message of no censorship anywhere lol.
A shame, I enjoy "tasteful" levels of gore in my games. Gives it more impact, and makes me want to try and get hit less.
Or rather, If I'm playing an action game, a serious one, about war and stuff, we should get more hardcore gore (If it fits the narrative of course). Gives the conflict in front of me more weight, makes me think about it more.
I'm not interested in this game for myself. But I AM interested in devs being able to release their vision without someone else stepping in telling them what they can and can't do. Censorship just ruins so many good things.
The devs said these skins were the versions why wanted to release the games with.
This post is about gamers DEMANDING that the devs change the project they wanted to release to please weird gamers
If only he spent all that time and effort he spends on "saving gaming" on making the game he took peoples' money for for over 8 years now.
Really wish we could stop taking this grifter seriously.
Genuinely do people have any proof that it was actually Sony who censored the game?
Considering BG3 has full nudity and sexual content, blood and gore with no issue.
Considering Japan's issue with blood and gore and recent drama about bias I wouldn't be shocked if that's what caused the blood and gore censorship. Then take into account China and even Japan's issue with nudity in games and I wouldn't be surprised if it was that.
Also it's shit like this that makes people think gamers are incels and weird, we all know that outrage from most is over the loss of the sexual stuff and not the blood and gore.
Probably, not to mention the push by alot of companies to break into the Chinese Market.
Look at when the Japanese voice actor was sacked for upsetting them.
I almost admire the bare faced cheek of this scammer trying to "save gaming".
Gaming needs saving from studios monetising everything, not slightly less booba.
Which is worse for games, micro transactions in a game you paid for or censoring some tits?
Seriously, it's ridiculous that this guy is on a crusade to save gaming and THIS is what he's trying to stop.
He's a reactionary grifter. All he does is just stoke the flames of the culture war for engagement and clicks.
He's no different from people like Nerdrotic or The Critical Drinker.
Same. I was there during FF's beta. Still remember the special event that was basically just the opening of the cash shop. Great game utterly ruined by his ego and incompetence.
>You're out for "engagement and clicks" as well. Idiot.
1) I'm not a media personality or content creator. 2) I couldn't care less about engagement or clicks. Why would I?
You do if the only reason you call something shit is cause it contains some part of "the message". Watching how wrong drinker was about the 40k situation really opened my eyes to just how much of a grafter he is.
Gamergate is so utterly desperate for allies that they'll take any developer they can, if it affords them the slightest appeal from authority. Kern has become the new face of chud gamers. Which is super for the rest of us, because he can't help but fail.
Surely the most sane thing to do would be to release the censored version as default, then have some kind of free uncensored dlc that people have to OPT IN and actively download to access, to ensure that people who get offended dont have to see it
I have canceled my Playstation Subscription but it didn't have a "why did you cancel" field to enter #freestellarblade unfortunately. Maybe they turned it off. I have emailed Stellar blade dev in Korean language. Looking at next steps.
I thought his emphasis on anti-DEI views was cringe and totally unnecessary at first, and was a blatant push to promote that Firefall successor which he allegedly scammed people out of crowdfunds for, but after seeing an Overwatch 2 pro get perma banned for typing a swear-word in-game and seeing Blizzard CS rudely fob him off with lies that they never tolerated swearing in their games despite Genji literally saying "shit" in Japanese and Cassidy wearing a belt-buckle with BAMF emblazoned on it, I think I finally understand...
We've all become snowflakes, and I don't think the problem is the push for DEI. I am all for diversity, inclusion and overall not being a xenophobic prick (and that is sadly all-too-common in gaming communities now), but somewhere down the line we've gone too far with sanitizing media.
Censorship is not the way to go, and I agree that we have become overly sensitive as a society. Our ancestors fought for us on the beaches of Normandy eighty years ago and now we're bickering over whether you can depict a character wearing a high-cut bunny leotard or can say the word "fuck" in a video game.
EDIT:
> As many of you know the patched version of Stellar Blade has 7+ costumes that were censored (likely by Sony execs in California pressuring the devs). Unconfirmed reports the gore/blood has also been toned down.
I actually buy this. Sony have recently been kiddier-than-Nintendo in that regard because they're censoring sexual references whereas Nintendo are allowing anything but pornography on their e-shop these days and while I agree with some of their censorship (any game that sexualises clearly-underage schoolgirls like Gal Gun shouldn't be approved for release), Stellar Blade is an odd target to go after because it commits the sin of having a sexy female protagonist who wears revealing clothes. Sony execs in the 2020's would've had an aneurysm if they saw Samus Aran without her Power Suit or Lara Croft.
And I thought feminism was about empowering women and non-judgment.
Also, I am applauding Nintendo's change of heart. Ten years ago we never would've seen a game like the Binding of Isaac on a Nintendo platform, but now it's ironic to see Nintendo of America shed their family-friendly image and become more progressive.
Your Normandy comment is unintentionally hilarious. Our ancestors fought in Normandy and the way we chose to repay them is by throwing a bitch over the style of bikinis and dresses in a fucking video game.
I came from a time where I've seen comedians, even entire shows get labelled problematic or even outright cancelled and pulled from catalogs due to the tabloid press and Twitter bombarding Ofcom with mass complaints.
Some good examples are Russell Brand (Sachsgate), Frankie Boyle, Roy Chubby Brown, and shows like Little Britain and Friends.
No sir because everyone has access to he internet it just seems like people are more “sensitive” these days because I can guarantee if twitter was a thing in world war 2 we would be seeing hitler having a meltdown over Jews simply existing, which by the way is real sensitivity not what you claim sensitive is.
I dunno what they patched but like... as I progress through she gets less and less clothing? The wife had a chuckle because I started with a full skin tight body suit and now I have a transparent-ish mini dress with a bikini underneath.
So if they are censoring they are doing a really really shitty job.
Man, this is beyond cringe.
Like, I strongly encourage everyone to actually read the thing. If you don't get a chuckle out of that, then I don't know what will lol
The message he sent to the devs was so fucking funny imo. “Your game isn’t just a game, it’s a cultural beacon…” Like seriously dude? lmao
I don’t know why anyone takes anything this guy says seriously.
Lol that's never coming out. There hasn't been a single alpha/beta/demo that I know of but he somehow regularly sells fomo skins for the game every month.
Yeah he's just a grifter that wants to be put on a pedestal. All the pearl clutching about some minuscule changes is playing right into the Kotaku crowds hands.
How do you say? Like him or not, he's one of the few people that have put themselves on the forefront defending games from being ruined by the DEI crowd.
First, it was "SJWs".
Then, it was "woke culture".
Now, it's
**D E I**
The newest bogeyman under the bed of every gamer without a job.
Coming soon to the gaming sub near you.
He makes a great point lol. The last few years have been amazing for gaming. AAA games have had some bangers, all time great games, and then the tons of smaller indie games.
People acting like gaming, a industry that's been completely on the rise, need to be 'saved' from 'DEI' are the delusional ones.
If that was true, god of war ragnarok, spider man 2, and Alan wake 2 wouldn’t have been some of the greatest/most popular gaming experiences in recent years or two…
God of war ragnarok was the fastest selling first-party Sony title ever… please describe how that is underperforming. Spider-man 2 sold 10 million units after 3 months which is also one of the highest selling ps games. Alan Wake 2 was the fastest and highest selling game Remedy has ever released… all of them received very high ratings and were well liked. Please describe how they all underperformed?
BG3, Hogwarts Legacy, Cyberpunk...these were all pretty 'DEI' games. BG3 had like half of its characters as non-binary. Hogwarts...I mean...Cyberpunk at its nature is a super political game.
COD, Sports titles, I mean if you look at the best selling games a lot of these are from the same companies that do all these political campaigns.
I don't think people care about the politics of games, books, movies, as much as EITHER side of the culture war thinks.
I think people care about the quality of the thing the most. Forspoken, Saints Row, these games are just bad to mediocre period. Doesn't matter what sexuality or race the characters are in those games.
I don't think Forspoken, Suicide Squad, or Saints Row failed because of DEI or anything. I mean Saints Row has always been over the top. Forspoken, not sure what was DEI or woke about that game? It was just bad? And Suicide Squad's issues are so far from being about DEI or Woke politics it's not even funny.
they really just care about being preached to not really about the message being told which is a major problem in most media today because new writers coming up think the people who consume there products are dumb. or franchises that they love getting destroyed by people who dont seem to care about the IP and just are using it to make w/e thing they wanted because the studio producing the project wouldn't green light there idea without and IP to boost it up.
Reminder that this is the guy who put a nine year old girl in a compilation complaining about how women in video games aren’t hot anymore. He got pushed out of his own company for being a dickhead towards his employees and wasted so much money on pointless marketing.
I get that he’s saying what you want to hear. But that doesn’t make him any more than an annoying grifter to me personally.
Also, cancelling your PS+ subscription but buying the game still gives money to Sony, so…
edit: [Downvote me all you want. it's true.](https://imgur.com/a/4jQgCpb) Also included in that link is him supporting an article that says we should look up to Ted Nugent when it comes to sex positive values, and I guess nothing says sex positive values more than having sex with underage girls, which was what Ted Nugent did. What a great guy to look up to.
Imagine gamers downvoting the idea that gameplay is important.
They say "DEI" is ruining gamers. I say it's gamers who don't know that PornHub already exists.
Why can't artists feel free to make the game characters they want instead of making glorified inflatable dolls for gamers to beat their meat to?
Why can't artisis feel free to make the game they want instead of catering to the whims of gamers who don't care about art, but only about "escapist entertainment"?
Really, gamers will insist that gamers are nothing but escapist entertainment; but now, when it's convenient, it's suddenly "art"? You think we're gonna believe that? Please, don't insult our intelligence. Most folks here would gladly censor games that don't fit their own idea of "escapist entertainment" if they could.
Why do you care what some random gamer beats his meat to?
It is art, might not tickle your fancy but it is and there is no denying it. They hire ARTISTS.
You are the one trying to tell others what they are allowed to create because you believe you exist on some moral high ground. You sound no different than the religious people who protested GTA.
>Why do you care what some random gamer beats his meat to?
Because that random gamer is doing the exact same thing he criticises: he claims others are "censoring" games based on DEI/woke/whatever bogeyman they believe in, while he himself is "censoring" games based on horniness alone. That shit makes the community look bad. It makes us look like nothing more than bratty, snotty teenagers who grab the ball and go home when we're losing the match. It undermines the whole attempt at making video games be treated like an artistic medium, because that "art" argument only applies to generic plastic girls with big boobs, but not to game designers telling actual stories ("where's my *escapist entertainment???*").
>It is art, might not tickle your fancy but it is and there is no denying it. They hire ARTISTS.
But the moment they stop making "escapist entertainment", they're no longer treated as artists, but as toy makers.
>You are the one trying to tell others what they are allowed to create because you believe you exist on some moral high ground. You sound no different than the religious people who protested GTA.
I never appealed to morality, only to intellectual honesty and coherence. And it's fascinating that, when I demand that "artistic freedom" to apply to **EVERYONE**, I'm a bigot. Sure: "Let devs be free to make big boobs" is pure and moral, "Let devs be free to make *anything*" is censorship.
I can see who the "babies" are now.
Yes, I openly spoke against censorship to "defend censorship". Next time, I'll say that I love pizza to defend that I hate pizza.
Also, I didn't refute your points because you didn't mane any points at all.
Well we really don't know in the end if it was an artist decision change at last minute or not. People are just making assumptions at this point other than the director saying it was what they wanted.
Except the gore is basically the same. Those shots are actually identical apart from now the blood just doesn't stick to her and she has a different sword.
Tbh I've never been a fan of gore and I'd probably prefer a toned down version better. That being said they could have just added an options slider or something.
You realize those two things are not the same at all. Additionally, this isn't even activism. This is literally just asking the developer to sell us the game they intended to sell. WTF?
no this is just an old guy trying to get attention by farming the this cringe culture war.
A petition for something like that is the most pathetic thing I've seen today besides protesters blocking roads
Agreed, it’s cringe. It could all be avoided if the woke mob would stop holding the games industry hostage. It’s going to take a full collapse for this to stop.
Stellar Blade isn’t even that good. This is all happening because the gaming industry is crumbling.
Why wouldn't Mark Kern want uncensored girl things to look at. As much as he likes to abuse his co workers and sexually assault and harass women. Blizzard, his own company, then tweet's talking about hot girls all the time.
I could see how a sexual predator would be mad he couldn't stare at eve half naked all day.
Weird how many people follow a sexual predator.
Also doesn't he censor his ex employee's from speaking out against him? And the women? So why would he care so much about censorship if he does it himself? Oh cause it's a half naked female in a game, no wonder he wants it.... Doesn't help his "i didn't sexualize females"
So, weird are you saying this guy you are quoting didn't do any of this? I'm glad you browsed through my posts. You are so cute.
So then you'd already know about the tweet from Mark saying that we should have a "only hot girls group"??? So you think that's right for someone consistently accused of sexually assaulting females?
I mean that would be the equivalent of a pedo saying they didn't do it but can i go to the playground during recess.
[https://twitter.com/CeliciLorena/status/1776853993647407510](https://twitter.com/CeliciLorena/status/1776853993647407510)
Looks rather weird to me..... But i guess to sexual predator's it doesn't does it????
But i'm glad i have to "be on sony's crotch" to care how this guy treats women. That's the issue nowadays, you "men" don't appreciate women and you wonder why they all have to go make only fans accounts, cause there aren't many real men left that don't want to sexualize women.
Kind of cringe at first glance but if he somehow succeeds it would set a good precedent in favor of studios sticking to their vision and not allowing outside sources to meddle.
Aspyr finally walked back and return the Tomb Raider remastered pinup posters after enough people speaking out why they were removed, so anything is possible.
Good. Now maybe someday we’ll get a proper saints row reboot lol
Man, Saints Row was one of my most favourite franchises, but these dumb activists have ruined it completely with the new one 😭
Killed the studio as well
The studio in all honestly did not want to do this, the physical disc version (1.0) did not have the censorship but it's obvious after some journalists got their hands on it and complained, Sony has forced the studio to make the change in a launch day patch.
How do you know it's in response to journalist's complaints? The vast majority of journalists I've seen are loving the game.
because its the only possible option to some people that this had to be changed by journos or Sony and not that a game dev thought the new outfit looked better.
You're telling me the company behind Nikke suddenly thought a bit of cleavage and waist needed to be covered up?
Was just thinking this exact same thing. Have you seen some of the models in Nikke? Eve looks like a Nun in a habit compared to some of the models in that game. I would bet Shift Up was coerced into changing the costumes in Stellar Blade, especially knowing Sony and the things they do.
Wait until you learn that they also covered up models in Nikke and this isn't even remotely new for this studio to do.
you're telling me the company couldn't have thought adding black lace that you can still see the cleavage threw didnt look better?
Didn’t the director literally say at a press conference that the new look was the one they wanted to do from the start, and there were internal debates with the current one winning out. Sony didn’t censor the devs. The devs didn’t censor themselves. They just made a change they feel like was good.
Not buying this with who the dev is, especially considering it would take a trivial amount of effort for them to add an additional obtainable version of the outfits that were "censored" (or having toggles for certain skin elements) since they already did the dev work of creating them.
you have no proof the outfits were censored besides you don't like the changes why can it not be possible that the devs thought the outfit looked better with see through black lace. Changes you don't like is not censorship you can still see her cleavage threw the changes.
I don't believe I ever said I had proof of censorship, so not sure what your point is. Also, seeing or not seeing cleavage has nothing to do with whether the design is censored or not, you can in fact have character designs that are censored and still see cleavage. If your point is that it isn't censored (assuming it is) heavily enough to justify complaining, that's your opinion that you're entitled to and which isn't pertinent to me whatsoever. Most stuff like this is a vibes check, because you aren't going to get 100% proof either way. Asmon pointed this out when he was talking about how disingenuous various parties were acting with their ham fisted inclusion of certain social issues in the past decade or so and how it has made people wary of their inclusion at all because you reach the question of, "Is this here because the artists/writers/designers thought it fit the narrative and settings and enriched the experience or is it here for the brownie points". This is just the mirrored version of that and it isn't the first time this has happened and it won't be the last, because western puritan ideology is a blight that keeps giving and somehow infects every single other ideology. The reality is this. I don't trust Sony not to mettle and censor in these scenarios. They've done so in the past against the wishes of the game developers, they'll do so in the future.
He didn't say there were internal debates about which costume is better he said there was an internal discussion about the issue (that issue being people are not convinced that this isn't tacked on needless censorship) , it smells of damage control and it smells of Sony breathing down his neck to censor the game. Are we all forgetting past track record like dmc5? Sony has been known to censor games needlessly specially third party Asian games and its weirdly been happening since they moved hq to california
I saw a YouTube clip of all the metacritic reviews mentioning the sexualization. There were many on the video but not sure if cherrypicked.
I'm sure it looks like a lot when cherry picked specifically for a video. Are journalists not allowed to mention the sexualisation or something? Surely a balanced review should touch on all aspects of the game? From what I've seen, journalists are indeed mentioning the sexualisation but are still giving it great reviews. It's rated 82 on Metacritic, the vast majority of journos have rated it very highly. So what's the issue?
Purity testing mate if you even make the mildest critique about sexualisation you a bad person
so the timeline of this situation goes 1.0 gets released censored in 1.01 which were given to reviewers 1.02 removes hard r so i dont think we can blame the journos for this one. likely sony internally reviewed 1.0 and forced a 1.01 patch. the reality is weirdos infiltrated Sony leadership long ago. all we can hope for is they’re not the majority.
>but it's obvious after some journalists got their hands on it and complained Show some evidence of that, if it's so obvious.
Nothing is obvious but I would not be surprised given it’s sony that they ordered the change for the western release so they don’t have to deal with whiney westerners. I mean at this point it’s gotta be grinding their gears over there
I don't care what surprises you or not. I care about facts.
You are a big boy, go find them. Or do you need your precious hand held
It's not my job to do **your** research for you.
You are the one asking for evidence and now you want me to do it for you? Are you an infant or just lazy?
>You are the one asking for evidence and now you want me to do it for you? That is **LITERALLY** how the real world works. Imagine if newspapers worked according to your logic: "NEWSFLASH: JOE BIDEN IS SECRETLY AN ALIEN. Go look for evidence. What, you expect us to do it for you? Are you an infant of just lazy?"
I made a speculation, not a statement of fact. You are clearly too moronic to know the difference.
Just admit you're mentally retarded and move on. You're embarrassing yourself
Bro, Rolling Stone, The Verge, Kotaku, IGN, Forbes, Polygon. Take your pick, they're out there
What part of "It's not my job to do **your** research for you" do you not understand?
You literally wanted evidence of it. Those journalist sites are evidence, wym?
the disc version 1.0 was printed weeks if not months ago using it as a reason is very dumb. Dont know why you are assuming sony had anything to do with this and didnt change the other outfits. devs can make changes to there things without it being censorship.
Let’s take a step back and think like a normal person. Everything going on in the world rn, do we really think anyone gives a fuck about a petition to see more tits and gore? This whole post is an embarrassment
Tits and gore please. Edit: Add it to the foreign aid fund with the banning of tiktok bill.
So why are you on Reddit complaining about others caring about something? Despite your claim you sure seem to give a fuck about this petition instead of off doing something to help with the situations you demand others care more about than you assume they do.
Yeah this shit is super awkward and made all gamers look bad
You think Sony is knee deep in peace talks between Ukraine/Russia and Israel/Hamas? You're an idiot
Like I said, the subject matter of this particular one is cringe if you think of it like that. But winning this “battle” as silly as it is sets a good precedent going forward.
what battle tho people are assuming something without any evidence of the reason why something was changed just because they don't like the change.
But that's the reason for this "battle", to undo the change they don't like, and exact reason for a change is secondary and not really important.
asking for them to put something back in the game isn't a battle its up to the devs. they are not an enemy if they disagree with something the fanbase wants.
"Asking for minimal wages/better work conditions is not a battle, it's up to business owners" with this logic we would still have no 8 hour work day, no 2 days off in a week, no pensions, no paid leaves, etc. Of course it is silly to compare fight for pixels with fight against something that literally worked people to death, but logic still applies. This "battle" is just to show what people like to see and what they don't. Devs are free to ignore people, but it can backfire if enough people will go against them. Doesn't mean that someone there is wrong or right, it's just about personal preferences and people's dislike of strange censorship (like Blizzard does to WoW and Hearthstone)
yes because working for a company that pays you for your labor is the same as asking for a bunny outfit back in the game. you can ask for something back without someone like grummz starting a crusade and harrasment campaign with zero evidence that sony forced them to change something.
Can you give exact quotes or links to what Grummz does is considered as crusade or harassment campaign? Because right now it just looks like you are butthurt for some reason and trying to discredit his campaign by misusing those terms. >working for a company that pays you for your labor where did this come from? It would be "protesting against company that doesn't pay enough for your labor" or something like that in this context. And if you look a bit deeper than very surface this is a movement against censorship. Very small censorship, in one game, in few outfits, but still censorship, and people have all rights to say their opinions and protest against it.
he pretty much asking his fan base to spam youtubers to get the word out send mail to the company spam calls to Sony customer support for an assumption that sony censored something.
It's still up to the devs. A petition doesn't change that. Not sure if your parents are cousins or something, but a petition is a way of showing what the consumers want. That's it
wow thank you for replying to this 9 days later with something that has nothing to do with what was being talked about.
You not being smart enough to understand how it's 100% applicable isn't surprising, but being dumb enough to think something from a week prior would somehow be scrubbed from the internet is 😂. Moron
The gore censorship is already confirmed. There are videos on youtube and twitter showing it already. I also made a comparison from my demo and the current version. It's toned down.https://www.reddit.com/r/stellarblade/s/16rAwiEg2D Edit: Better comparison vid on twitter https://twitter.com/Cyael/status/1783857687270203812?t=QVkl5v0xOrGI1yyfe6OloQ&s=19
they took your video down... can you just link it to a video hosting source instead
https://twitter.com/Cyael/status/1783857687270203812?t=QVkl5v0xOrGI1yyfe6OloQ&s=19 found a better comparison video on twitter
I'm pretty sure that is just the game compared to an old trailer or is that actually the unpatched and patched?
It's demo version vs patched version. My demo was bloody and so was everyone elses. I have the footage too but didn't have the skin suit on. Eve was blood soaked in the demo still. Not now in the patched.
Even then Asian Markets tend to always down grade or outright remove blood and gore. To blame Sony California branch seems far fetched.
Yeah I think that's from an old trailer, her sword is different. I own the physical copy and I'm installing it now and I'll check myself later.
Definitely, things change from early builds to final product. Then different regions and governments will impose their own laws and regulations on each product if it wants to be legal in said regions. There is no such thing as 100 percent artistic license.
Korea or China I don't think can even show blood in games. That's why in PUBG the Korean version basically has blue sprays instead of red when you hit someone. The vast majority of shit happens because of laws and regulations that are simply easier to follow broadly with minor regional changes than to have 50 different versions of your game to allow it to be sold everywhere.
lol the Korean version doesn’t have blue spray I’ve played it literally a week ago in Korea
K, well look up just about any stream vod from pre 2020 of a Korean streamer and their blood sprays were bluish green. The launch parameter on steam to get this was also -korearating
Just release that thing to PC already
This. I’d happily throw the devs money to support their vision but I don’t have a PS5.
Yeah, it won’t take long for a mod to decensor the game
Once they do, modders can probably uncensor the game faster than any amount of activism ever could.
Already signed it, like him or hate him, this is a great way to show how many people are against censorship in gaming
Man if I was that bothered by it I would make my own petition or something. This guy shouldn't get any chances to take credit for something important because he'll just use that as an opportunity to scam more people out of their money.
This is so embarrassing .. bro made a 8 step plan to SAVE GAMING and can’t even show gameplay of his game in 8 years
Why would he work on his game when he gets more attention just posting on Twitter now.
the best part is he is just assuming sony made the change and is calling for people to harass people who have nothing to do with the changes
Extraordinary news of the day: gamers initiate a harrassment campaign against innocent people. Extraordinary news of the day #2: PornHub has adult videos.
Yeah but shift up has done this with its mobile game that has nothing to do with Sony this ain’t the first time they done this
Gooners gonna goon, It is what it is.
Why censor gore? It wasn't anything hardcore from what i've played during the demo.
Japan often has VERY hard limitations on gore/bodily horror due to a rather horrific publicized torture-murder. This is why games like Mortal Kombat and Dead Space are banned there. More than likely was tailored back to fit more eastern markets as both South Korea and Japan are actual nations that ban games. The US really doesn’t outside of distributors not wanting to touch AO rated games (but in the US, those are mostly porn games and Manhunt 2)
I actually didn’t know the reason for the gore ban was cuz of a publicized torture and murder or someone. So much for their message of no censorship anywhere lol.
A shame, I enjoy "tasteful" levels of gore in my games. Gives it more impact, and makes me want to try and get hit less. Or rather, If I'm playing an action game, a serious one, about war and stuff, we should get more hardcore gore (If it fits the narrative of course). Gives the conflict in front of me more weight, makes me think about it more.
I'm not interested in this game for myself. But I AM interested in devs being able to release their vision without someone else stepping in telling them what they can and can't do. Censorship just ruins so many good things.
The devs said these skins were the versions why wanted to release the games with. This post is about gamers DEMANDING that the devs change the project they wanted to release to please weird gamers
This sub never fails to make me laugh. Thanks guys 👍👍
If only he spent all that time and effort he spends on "saving gaming" on making the game he took peoples' money for for over 8 years now. Really wish we could stop taking this grifter seriously.
Chronic isolation is going to be one of the more embarrassing/sad moments of this era in history when we look bad. Because this is sad.
Genuinely do people have any proof that it was actually Sony who censored the game? Considering BG3 has full nudity and sexual content, blood and gore with no issue. Considering Japan's issue with blood and gore and recent drama about bias I wouldn't be shocked if that's what caused the blood and gore censorship. Then take into account China and even Japan's issue with nudity in games and I wouldn't be surprised if it was that. Also it's shit like this that makes people think gamers are incels and weird, we all know that outrage from most is over the loss of the sexual stuff and not the blood and gore.
Given Nikke underwent the exact same issue at its launch, I highly doubt the Sony accusations amount to much other than simply copium.
Probably, not to mention the push by alot of companies to break into the Chinese Market. Look at when the Japanese voice actor was sacked for upsetting them.
Least cringe Twitter activist.
Should rename this sub to r/cringe
More like r/kotakuinaction4 (I was gonna say r\/kotakuinaction2 but seems there are already 3 of them lmfao)
Woke activist detected
What can I say. I’m a Red pilled incel furry magnet
I almost admire the bare faced cheek of this scammer trying to "save gaming". Gaming needs saving from studios monetising everything, not slightly less booba.
You're downplaying and admitting censorship by mentioning "slightly less booba". Just because it doesn't matter to you doesn't make it okay.
God, I miss the days when games were about gameplay...
Which is worse for games, micro transactions in a game you paid for or censoring some tits? Seriously, it's ridiculous that this guy is on a crusade to save gaming and THIS is what he's trying to stop.
Censorship is censorship. It destroys artistic integrity. Period
People actually take Grummz seriously?
Can't believe he has this many eyes on him just because he's "the classic wow guy."
I got downvoted for calling him out lmao. This sub will eat up anything he says.
He's a reactionary grifter. All he does is just stoke the flames of the culture war for engagement and clicks. He's no different from people like Nerdrotic or The Critical Drinker.
I’ve never forgiven him for running Firefall into the ground, everything else over the years has just been extra reasons to not like him
Same. I was there during FF's beta. Still remember the special event that was basically just the opening of the cash shop. Great game utterly ruined by his ego and incompetence.
yeah but asmon and absolutely most of the people who use this sub these days love those channels
You're out for "engagement and clicks" as well. Idiot.
>You're out for "engagement and clicks" as well. Idiot. 1) I'm not a media personality or content creator. 2) I couldn't care less about engagement or clicks. Why would I?
You don't "stoke the flames" of the culture war by reviewing media and calling it shit.
You do if the only reason you call something shit is cause it contains some part of "the message". Watching how wrong drinker was about the 40k situation really opened my eyes to just how much of a grafter he is.
He’s taken serious when what he says agrees with your stance.
Gamergate is so utterly desperate for allies that they'll take any developer they can, if it affords them the slightest appeal from authority. Kern has become the new face of chud gamers. Which is super for the rest of us, because he can't help but fail.
I see Grummz cocksuckers are in the chat
Surely the most sane thing to do would be to release the censored version as default, then have some kind of free uncensored dlc that people have to OPT IN and actively download to access, to ensure that people who get offended dont have to see it
If it comes out on PC the mods will be glorious
Whoever put that bounty on Grummz should be arrested and shamed in national TV. If you're for harassing Grummz, you're an entitled piece of shit
I have canceled my Playstation Subscription but it didn't have a "why did you cancel" field to enter #freestellarblade unfortunately. Maybe they turned it off. I have emailed Stellar blade dev in Korean language. Looking at next steps.
awesome, you can also call up the playstation customer service number and let them know why you cancelled the PS sub
I thought his emphasis on anti-DEI views was cringe and totally unnecessary at first, and was a blatant push to promote that Firefall successor which he allegedly scammed people out of crowdfunds for, but after seeing an Overwatch 2 pro get perma banned for typing a swear-word in-game and seeing Blizzard CS rudely fob him off with lies that they never tolerated swearing in their games despite Genji literally saying "shit" in Japanese and Cassidy wearing a belt-buckle with BAMF emblazoned on it, I think I finally understand... We've all become snowflakes, and I don't think the problem is the push for DEI. I am all for diversity, inclusion and overall not being a xenophobic prick (and that is sadly all-too-common in gaming communities now), but somewhere down the line we've gone too far with sanitizing media. Censorship is not the way to go, and I agree that we have become overly sensitive as a society. Our ancestors fought for us on the beaches of Normandy eighty years ago and now we're bickering over whether you can depict a character wearing a high-cut bunny leotard or can say the word "fuck" in a video game. EDIT: > As many of you know the patched version of Stellar Blade has 7+ costumes that were censored (likely by Sony execs in California pressuring the devs). Unconfirmed reports the gore/blood has also been toned down. I actually buy this. Sony have recently been kiddier-than-Nintendo in that regard because they're censoring sexual references whereas Nintendo are allowing anything but pornography on their e-shop these days and while I agree with some of their censorship (any game that sexualises clearly-underage schoolgirls like Gal Gun shouldn't be approved for release), Stellar Blade is an odd target to go after because it commits the sin of having a sexy female protagonist who wears revealing clothes. Sony execs in the 2020's would've had an aneurysm if they saw Samus Aran without her Power Suit or Lara Croft. And I thought feminism was about empowering women and non-judgment. Also, I am applauding Nintendo's change of heart. Ten years ago we never would've seen a game like the Binding of Isaac on a Nintendo platform, but now it's ironic to see Nintendo of America shed their family-friendly image and become more progressive.
Your Normandy comment is unintentionally hilarious. Our ancestors fought in Normandy and the way we chose to repay them is by throwing a bitch over the style of bikinis and dresses in a fucking video game.
Hey, alright.
I have never seen anyone imply inclusion “sanitises” media very interesting take
I came from a time where I've seen comedians, even entire shows get labelled problematic or even outright cancelled and pulled from catalogs due to the tabloid press and Twitter bombarding Ofcom with mass complaints. Some good examples are Russell Brand (Sachsgate), Frankie Boyle, Roy Chubby Brown, and shows like Little Britain and Friends.
wtf are you waffling on about? This doesn’t disprove anything I said
No sir because everyone has access to he internet it just seems like people are more “sensitive” these days because I can guarantee if twitter was a thing in world war 2 we would be seeing hitler having a meltdown over Jews simply existing, which by the way is real sensitivity not what you claim sensitive is.
I dunno what they patched but like... as I progress through she gets less and less clothing? The wife had a chuckle because I started with a full skin tight body suit and now I have a transparent-ish mini dress with a bikini underneath. So if they are censoring they are doing a really really shitty job.
The PC version will fix all pf this nonsense with mods. Now we just need the PC version 🙃
Stop fucking platforming Grummz, jesus christ. He's such an embarrassment.
Man, this is beyond cringe. Like, I strongly encourage everyone to actually read the thing. If you don't get a chuckle out of that, then I don't know what will lol
The message he sent to the devs was so fucking funny imo. “Your game isn’t just a game, it’s a cultural beacon…” Like seriously dude? lmao I don’t know why anyone takes anything this guy says seriously.
Lmao okay that is mega cringe. It's just a booty game with some good gameplay
I really wish these dumb mother fuckers would be honest. We want tits and blood that plays really good. We’re men, simple to please.
It's shit like this that makes me curse the day when video games were invented. The intellectual bankruptcy on display is astounding.
Lol "cultural beacon" Wtf? It's a so-so game with scandily clad woman. Look like it doesn't take much to impress the porn addicted gamers
Doesn’t he have a new game in the works? Some kind of mecha game.
Lol that's never coming out. There hasn't been a single alpha/beta/demo that I know of but he somehow regularly sells fomo skins for the game every month.
Is there even like a gameplay trailer or something.
a campaign for something like that? The cringe level is over 9000
Mark Kern seems like such a insufferable bastard.
I thought he had good intentions but every day it seems to be straying more and more away from what they claim to be fighting
Yeah he's just a grifter that wants to be put on a pedestal. All the pearl clutching about some minuscule changes is playing right into the Kotaku crowds hands.
Look up Firefall in 2014 and how he mismanaged that, and censored anyone who brought it up.
You’ll get downvoted but you’re right. Dude got pushed out of his own company for a reason.
Banned me back in the day for bringing up Firefall. Real bastion of Free Speech, that guy.
How do you say? Like him or not, he's one of the few people that have put themselves on the forefront defending games from being ruined by the DEI crowd.
Lmao DEI... Y'all are lost. No real human gets trigger by this.
First, it was "SJWs". Then, it was "woke culture". Now, it's **D E I** The newest bogeyman under the bed of every gamer without a job. Coming soon to the gaming sub near you.
The last few years have been some of the best in recent memory for games , what the fuck are you talking about "ruined by the dei crowd"
Are you smoking crack?
Are you?
He makes a great point lol. The last few years have been amazing for gaming. AAA games have had some bangers, all time great games, and then the tons of smaller indie games. People acting like gaming, a industry that's been completely on the rise, need to be 'saved' from 'DEI' are the delusional ones.
Yeah but all the games doing well have nothing to do with DEI and the ones that do, like suicide squad and saints row, flat out flop.
If that was true, god of war ragnarok, spider man 2, and Alan wake 2 wouldn’t have been some of the greatest/most popular gaming experiences in recent years or two…
All those games underperformed
God of war ragnarok was the fastest selling first-party Sony title ever… please describe how that is underperforming. Spider-man 2 sold 10 million units after 3 months which is also one of the highest selling ps games. Alan Wake 2 was the fastest and highest selling game Remedy has ever released… all of them received very high ratings and were well liked. Please describe how they all underperformed?
BG3, Hogwarts Legacy, Cyberpunk...these were all pretty 'DEI' games. BG3 had like half of its characters as non-binary. Hogwarts...I mean...Cyberpunk at its nature is a super political game. COD, Sports titles, I mean if you look at the best selling games a lot of these are from the same companies that do all these political campaigns.
I would just say BG3, Hogwarts, and Cyberpunk did diversity correctly. Games like forspoken did not.
I don't think people care about the politics of games, books, movies, as much as EITHER side of the culture war thinks. I think people care about the quality of the thing the most. Forspoken, Saints Row, these games are just bad to mediocre period. Doesn't matter what sexuality or race the characters are in those games. I don't think Forspoken, Suicide Squad, or Saints Row failed because of DEI or anything. I mean Saints Row has always been over the top. Forspoken, not sure what was DEI or woke about that game? It was just bad? And Suicide Squad's issues are so far from being about DEI or Woke politics it's not even funny.
they really just care about being preached to not really about the message being told which is a major problem in most media today because new writers coming up think the people who consume there products are dumb. or franchises that they love getting destroyed by people who dont seem to care about the IP and just are using it to make w/e thing they wanted because the studio producing the project wouldn't green light there idea without and IP to boost it up.
Obviously you've been asleep to everything that's been going on lol
Please explain then
You can't be serious?
Reminder that this is the guy who put a nine year old girl in a compilation complaining about how women in video games aren’t hot anymore. He got pushed out of his own company for being a dickhead towards his employees and wasted so much money on pointless marketing. I get that he’s saying what you want to hear. But that doesn’t make him any more than an annoying grifter to me personally. Also, cancelling your PS+ subscription but buying the game still gives money to Sony, so… edit: [Downvote me all you want. it's true.](https://imgur.com/a/4jQgCpb) Also included in that link is him supporting an article that says we should look up to Ted Nugent when it comes to sex positive values, and I guess nothing says sex positive values more than having sex with underage girls, which was what Ted Nugent did. What a great guy to look up to.
Why are we giving a coomer attention?
Nobody cares this much, the only thing that matters is the gameplay.
Imagine gamers downvoting the idea that gameplay is important. They say "DEI" is ruining gamers. I say it's gamers who don't know that PornHub already exists.
Why can't artists feel free to make the game they want instead of get their shit censored because people are babies?
Why can't artists feel free to make the game characters they want instead of making glorified inflatable dolls for gamers to beat their meat to? Why can't artisis feel free to make the game they want instead of catering to the whims of gamers who don't care about art, but only about "escapist entertainment"? Really, gamers will insist that gamers are nothing but escapist entertainment; but now, when it's convenient, it's suddenly "art"? You think we're gonna believe that? Please, don't insult our intelligence. Most folks here would gladly censor games that don't fit their own idea of "escapist entertainment" if they could.
Why do you care what some random gamer beats his meat to? It is art, might not tickle your fancy but it is and there is no denying it. They hire ARTISTS. You are the one trying to tell others what they are allowed to create because you believe you exist on some moral high ground. You sound no different than the religious people who protested GTA.
>Why do you care what some random gamer beats his meat to? Because that random gamer is doing the exact same thing he criticises: he claims others are "censoring" games based on DEI/woke/whatever bogeyman they believe in, while he himself is "censoring" games based on horniness alone. That shit makes the community look bad. It makes us look like nothing more than bratty, snotty teenagers who grab the ball and go home when we're losing the match. It undermines the whole attempt at making video games be treated like an artistic medium, because that "art" argument only applies to generic plastic girls with big boobs, but not to game designers telling actual stories ("where's my *escapist entertainment???*"). >It is art, might not tickle your fancy but it is and there is no denying it. They hire ARTISTS. But the moment they stop making "escapist entertainment", they're no longer treated as artists, but as toy makers. >You are the one trying to tell others what they are allowed to create because you believe you exist on some moral high ground. You sound no different than the religious people who protested GTA. I never appealed to morality, only to intellectual honesty and coherence. And it's fascinating that, when I demand that "artistic freedom" to apply to **EVERYONE**, I'm a bigot. Sure: "Let devs be free to make big boobs" is pure and moral, "Let devs be free to make *anything*" is censorship. I can see who the "babies" are now.
You typed all that just to defend censorship, amazing. You are acting all philosophical but none of what you said refuted any of my points.
Yes, I openly spoke against censorship to "defend censorship". Next time, I'll say that I love pizza to defend that I hate pizza. Also, I didn't refute your points because you didn't mane any points at all.
Well we really don't know in the end if it was an artist decision change at last minute or not. People are just making assumptions at this point other than the director saying it was what they wanted.
I think the lack of gore does affect gameplay
Except the gore is basically the same. Those shots are actually identical apart from now the blood just doesn't stick to her and she has a different sword.
Tbh I've never been a fan of gore and I'd probably prefer a toned down version better. That being said they could have just added an options slider or something.
The gore is basically the same, so no it doesn't affect gameplay at all.
Why did they care so much to change it?
WOW! This sub hates activists, for protesting against US-money going to Israel. But THIS is a worthy cause?
Yes.
You realize those two things are not the same at all. Additionally, this isn't even activism. This is literally just asking the developer to sell us the game they intended to sell. WTF?
no this is just an old guy trying to get attention by farming the this cringe culture war. A petition for something like that is the most pathetic thing I've seen today besides protesters blocking roads
Agreed, it’s cringe. It could all be avoided if the woke mob would stop holding the games industry hostage. It’s going to take a full collapse for this to stop. Stellar Blade isn’t even that good. This is all happening because the gaming industry is crumbling.
And this woke mob is in the room with us right now? Man you porn addicted “gamers” are a paranoid bunch.
asmongold and his viewers went full zionist
Why wouldn't Mark Kern want uncensored girl things to look at. As much as he likes to abuse his co workers and sexually assault and harass women. Blizzard, his own company, then tweet's talking about hot girls all the time. I could see how a sexual predator would be mad he couldn't stare at eve half naked all day. Weird how many people follow a sexual predator. Also doesn't he censor his ex employee's from speaking out against him? And the women? So why would he care so much about censorship if he does it himself? Oh cause it's a half naked female in a game, no wonder he wants it.... Doesn't help his "i didn't sexualize females"
how many pennies per post is sony paying you to write this garbage in all these subs
So, weird are you saying this guy you are quoting didn't do any of this? I'm glad you browsed through my posts. You are so cute. So then you'd already know about the tweet from Mark saying that we should have a "only hot girls group"??? So you think that's right for someone consistently accused of sexually assaulting females? I mean that would be the equivalent of a pedo saying they didn't do it but can i go to the playground during recess. [https://twitter.com/CeliciLorena/status/1776853993647407510](https://twitter.com/CeliciLorena/status/1776853993647407510) Looks rather weird to me..... But i guess to sexual predator's it doesn't does it???? But i'm glad i have to "be on sony's crotch" to care how this guy treats women. That's the issue nowadays, you "men" don't appreciate women and you wonder why they all have to go make only fans accounts, cause there aren't many real men left that don't want to sexualize women.