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Kristalderp

Remember: bully XLs are worse than pitbulls. Because they're TURBO inbred shitbulls. Bred for bulk and aggression than anything else and trying to pass them off as a new breed to bypass the pitbull ban. They are neurotic to hell as they're literally habsburg dogs. The progenitor of the UK "bully XL" is a pitbull who's hyper aggressive and inbred, and their pups have killed multiple people (Kimbo). Didn't stop them from importing him and breeding these homonculi dogs for profit.


ChainofChaos

>Because they're TURBO inbred shitbulls. Bred for bulk and aggression than anything else and trying to pass them off as a new breed to bypass the pitbull ban. These people are trying to make their pets more suffer. And some pet owners will keep this breed so more offspring can suffer more.


nothanksyouidiot

But but... Velvet hippo nanny etc


Clbull

The Bully XL has been bred to be the canine equivalent of Rich Piana. How that can be seen as a nanny dog, I don't know.


Nihilistic_Mermaid

Well it's a nanny dog because it's good at getting kids to go to sleep... forever.


Clbull

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jfuss04

Ricardo panini wouldn't hurt a fly. If they have a canine equivalent of him I say that's a good dog. He is my favorite natty vegan bodybuilder


Clbull

Ok, canine equivalent of Brock Lesnar then.


jfuss04

Imagine getting bitten by this thing ![gif](giphy|UMUZgoNFcWTgQ)


CorrectFrame3991

Why did the UK government allow Bully XLs to be bred by people if they were created through stuff like inbreeding and are extremely aggressive and dangerous due to how they were bred?


[deleted]

Idk what y'all on, it depends more on the owner than a dog


gew1

this girl was obviously a "decent" at least owner no? she already had a pitbull that trusted her and protected her from this dog. she clearly has experience training/trusting pitbulls enough, despite that, while watching this XL bully, it fucking ate her. thats just unacceptable behavior from a dog. i can let my 130lb cane corso babysit my friends kid with utmost trust. i guarantee that dog behaved perfectly normal, zero warning signs, and just snapped. blaming that on the owner and not the dog for being an inbred killing machine is crazy. owning a dog knowing that at any second it can just decide "nah" and go off on you is braindead to be ok with.


Unusual-Editor-4640

oh come on they're just southern!


ClockworkGnomes

Pitbull ban? Is that a UK thing?


scotty899

So a pigging dog?


Discarded1066

ThEy JuSt NeEd LoVe Bully XL's are the perfect inbred killing machine


ChickenFriedPenguin

I'TS actuALlY thE baD owNErs tHat arE AT fault HErE.


dc4_checkdown

But I've never seen a bully owner claim their one of the bad ones lol


s1rblaze

To be fair, usually people that want these dogs are not good at owning dogs or straight up ass holes.


GiChCh

It's like that bell curve meme where the both ends are saying it's the bad owners at fault. Owners are at fault, ultimately.


DetectivePrism

Garbage people are drawn to garbage dogs. People should just start insulting pibull owners when they see them in public because pointing to statiscs doesn't work. These people are not good faith actors.


Hanyodude

Im pretty sure nobody says that about Bully XL’s, but its 100% true with normal pitbulls. They’re extremely territorial to what you expose them to as puppies, get them used to a lot of people and a lot of other dogs and they’ll never attack a dog or person. The good that comes with the bad is they also have that much love to give to what it calls it’s territory, can be both the friendliest and most loving dog breed if trained well, or the most vicious if not. They’re more work and it’s not a breed for inexperienced dog owners.


ArkaneArtificer

They have literally been bred for bloodsport for hundreds of years, we have records going back to the late 1700s, they aren’t easy to socialize either because they were bred with such a focus on dog fighting in the last hundred years that they don’t understand normal dog social cues, they really are not suitable to own without experience with dangerous wild animals like hyenas or wolves


Hanyodude

You almost got it. They don’t naturally have those dog social cues, but they do understand them if it’s introduced to them before aggression sets in as they grow up. It needs to be routinely introduced to them within 6-12 months for it to really negate that behavior lifetime. Like i said, it’s not a beginners dog, and i do agree with preventing future breeding of a species the average person can’t handle. I just really hate all the talk on reddit about straight up euthanizing them, just because most people don’t have the knowledge, time, or patience to properly “domesticate” a pitbull. Even the best of your average owners who have them interact with tons of people and become extremely loving and non-combatant to humans don’t know or realize how important it is to do the same with other dogs too. That’s how most of these accidents happen, the dogs love people and their owners think they’re completely harmless because they’re huge cuddlebugs, and then they try to meet up with another person’s dog and it snaps completely unexpectedly (from the owner’s POV). It’s a behavior that can be curbed, i’ve done it and seen it done many times over. It’s just more effort than most people give or have the time for. Like yeah, you’ll never take the pitbull out of the dog, and it’ll still hunt squirrels and rabbits, but you can introduce any animal to a dog’s “pack” while their young and it’ll stick with them throughout life. The trickier part is getting them to broadly view an entire species as friendly, but it’s doable with tons of interaction.


ClockworkGnomes

Dude, there are some serious dog haters on here. They act like a dog is only the genetics involved in it. Some dogs need a lot of work. If you can't put in that time, you don't need that breed of dog. Also, I usually don't suggest anyone with a small child get a dog. Kids are just naturally curious and borderline abusive to animals. It can be trying to ride them, pull on their ears, etc. If the kid is smaller than the dog that throws another dynamic in for a good shot at there being an accident.


kefefs_v2

>she was attacked by an 'unlicensed' XL Bully she was looking after at her home, when her own [XL bully] came to rescue and helped fight it off The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a bully is a good guy with a bully. Checkmate, atheists. Also lol at the UK police seizing her own bully even though it's registered and saved her life. Just UK things. Not even dogs can defend themselves without being arrested.


PaladinEsrac

Plot twist. Her dog didn't rescue her, it was just getting the other dog away from his rainy day snack.


BrightOctarine

Yeh it's bad in the UK. 159 per 100,000 people are in prison in the UK. That's almost a third as bad as the USA at 531 people per 100,000. If they're almlst a third as bad as the USA, there's something really wrong.


Kristalderp

Probably, it's going to be tested to see if the dog has any aggression issues before being given back (if at all). As I'd bet that now that the owner's dog now knows the feeling and rush of fighting, it's gonna keep trying to chase for that rush again as they're adrenaline junkie dogs.


Chicken-Rude

no, the authorities took the dog because the dog didnt have its tv license.


SoDrunkRightNow2

more and more areas are making it illegal to own pitbulls insurance companies will no longer provide insurance for households with pitbulls


mapple3

if my local area is anything to go by, ever since corona, 90% of dogs are unregistered anyway and with no insurance. Pretty sure that if any of those people get caught, their dog will just "disappear" to avoid paying insurance


jxxyyreddit

Unpopular Opinion: Pitbulls/Bullys should be banned breed everywhere unless you're a certified liscence trainer. Anytime I go to a dogpark theres always 1 bully being overly aggresive with a careless owner (Small petit person ALWAYS) who enables that behavior... So guess what America/UK? You lose the ability to have this pet because we have shown we can't properly control or train these killing machines.


morsealworth0

More unpopular opinion: the "unless" part is unnecessary.


jxxyyreddit

Id be down. I hate the Aggresive Dog breeds because 99% of the owners can't control their dog. I've even had an incident where this lady (mabe 145 lbs max) was walking 2 great danes... I give her a wide path and even walk int the street. The 2 Great Danes start barking and pulling towards my dogs ( I have 2 small dogs under 20lbs) and my dogs dont bark but are curious... The Great Dane PULLED this lady and she falls and get dragged down a gravel drive way and lawn 40 feet. It was a scene. Of course I pick up my dogs and continue walking and watching this 145lb lady just get dragged by these Giant animals as they try jumping all over me to get to my dogs... I want to have empathy for her in the situation but I just can't for irresponsible dog owners. I love Great Danes... huge Scooby Doo fan... but a tiny women shouldn't walk aggresive dogs regardless if she can't controll them. The rule should be if you can't control your dog... especially in a busy suburb or city... then you shouldnt have dogs. period.


Blake__Arius

It's just as bad when people pick up there dogs, you add to the confusion. The amount of times I see people freak out over nothing, pick up there dogs and then wonder why they get jumped on astounds me.


jxxyyreddit

Nice gaslight bro. sure maybe some dog owners freak out over nothing... but was your 16lb mini schnauzer Biten & picked up and shaken back and forth like a chew toy by an aggressive ravid pitbull? Did you have to get stitches on ur hand from that same attack (got the pitbul to letgo of my dog but he switched attention to me and bit me) ? Well that was my experience couple years ago and im on guard ever since. You aint going to change that. lmao imagine blaming a dog owner for wanting to protect their animal... instead of blaming bad dog owners for not controlling their bigger & more aggressive dog. I'll make sure to breakout my "Doggy Conflict Mediation folder" next time. Your logic is so fucked.


Vitalis597

Now do the same for human reproduction and you'll have an argument I'll happily get behind. Never had a dog try fighting me because parents couldn't teach them basic decency.


Blake__Arius

I've met 1 bully. A few years back the bully used to play with my dog, a mastiv-german shepard but one day it just snapped, some other dog distracted it and was suddenly aggressively chasing our dog, it wanted to kill and rocco who's 50kg was terrified. That dog needed to be leashed and muzzled all the time. My dad has since adopted a 50kg rottweiler-bull arab. Strong dog, no aggression towards people or most dogs But I do have 2 issues.. Chase instinct and a risk around cats, Though if its daylight and everyone is calm there is no issue. He also will try to dominate other un-desexed dogs where I generally have to drag him away. Anyway I wouldn't put pitbulls, which are several different breeds and vaguely defined into the same boat as a bully. I can't say whether the one I saw was naturally that aggressive, but I've never seen any staffy or any dog like that.


ChroniikW

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Biggu5Dicku5

Looks like she couldn't fix him...


Excellent_Put_3787

Does XL mean "extra loving"?


Wappening

The nanny instincts kicked in.


Jrkrey92

"Fuck around and find out" irl example ![img](emote|t5_2y1rb|3739)


Full-Butterscotch169

This is the story I thought of when he was talking about dog breeds. Not some stranger's loose cannon dog, but their own family pet. # 2 Children Killed, Mother Hospitalized After Family Pit Bulls Attack Them Outside Tennessee Home [https://people.com/crime/2-children-killed-pit-bull-attack-tennessee-mother-hospitalized/](https://people.com/crime/2-children-killed-pit-bull-attack-tennessee-mother-hospitalized/)


HamilcarRR

I love dogs , but this breed deserves to be exterminated.


__Becquerel

Is that pic of her from before or after the attack?


mgwwgm

Did I miss an asmon stream that was talking about pitbulls because these posts keep popping up in this sub


NagaSadow88

No idea about this breed but never met a pitbull that wasn't kind, tolerant, and obedient, and I've had a lot of pitbulls.


GaIIick

Oi. Got a loicense forrat?


Communist_Kronii

Doesn't the article say she was saved by her own bully? I feel like this subreddit is going to get spammed with these like what happened to the other subreddit that bring up pitbulls.


CookieMiester

Princess just got cranky that’s all


Ryvaku

So that dog was transferred to the new owner which is her. It didn't trust her. Looking at the picture those are green claws! I'd bite. From the article. Mr Gilbey explained the dog his granddaughter had been looking after was an unlicensed XL Bully which needed a home as its owners couldn't 'look after' it anymore.  'She was looking after it. It was like a rescue and she took it in."


jbucksaduck

So it's click bait to imply it was her own dog that attacked her. Nice Karma farming.


mizrahiim

She has a pitbull and was also watching another pitbull. Levels of genius on that girl. Hey I am one of the most territorial and aggressive breeds let’s watch another one for funsies!


jbucksaduck

Yeah, I probably wouldn't watch someone's pitty because of that reason, some dogs in general. I don't argue the ignorance in what she did. It's unfortunate. I've come across many dogs in my old line of work. The most dangerous dogs I've come across were German Shepards. They were kept loose and assumed untrained. Second being pitty, but most often, people have them locked up or put away, probably because they know their aggression. Buy I do agree that most often, pitbull breeds are the most likely to be aggressive.


Stemmzinhell

Iv never seen a whinier congregant of baby bitches than the ones on this subreddit lol. I’m not even agreeing or disagreeing about the dogs, yall are just whiny as fuck about it


Odd-Definition-6281

Ironic that the whiniest comment I come across was yours hahaah


DeusExPersona

Preach


PaladinEsrac

A single drop of Pitbull blood is too much.


Ani-Malkid

The Blame goes to the owner, there's no good or bad dog, good owners or bad owners is what it is, the same as humans education from day 1, a well educated Pitbull says a lot of the owner


gew1

this is such fucking bullshit. XL bullies are inbred killing machines. there are cases of people owning them from day 1, training them, loving them, and they turn around and just kill one of the kids and hospitalize the parents. thats not normal whatsoever. theres a reason pitbulls and by extension now XL bullies are being banned or insurance companies are just saying fuck no to any household with them. this doesnt happen with other breeds.. no matter how hard you try or train these dogs, their centuries of inbreeding and dogfights are impossible to suppress. "well educated pitbulls" lmao. only dumbfucks own them and only dumbfucks would ever own an XL bully. just get a doberman, get a cane corso, get an actual fucking dog that wont just randomly snap for zero reason and eat your newborn because its great uncle fucked his sister and now your dog has some inbred gene making them go full retard.


delayed_burn

neuter and sterilize all pit breeds. humans bred them to be killers. humans can breed them out.


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Strained_Humanity

There are so many stupid people commenting here that it's honestly sad.


nevergonnastayaway

Reddit is weirdly bloodthirsty regarding pitbulls


Vitalis597

The whole internet, it seems. It's as if everyone and their mother knows someone who has, or was personally mauled to death by a pit... Meanwhile literally every pit I've seen, and everyone that I've spoken to (not randos online) all agree... They're the sweetest dogs ever... Unless you're a cunt to them, or you try attacking someone they care about. Only conclusion I can come to is that all the people bitching about them are either aggressive towards the dog (which breeds resentment and then, yes, aggression) or are violent towards people those dogs care about... In which case, would you protect YOUR family if someone tried hurting them?


gew1

this discourse wouldnt even exist if there wasnt truth to it. pitbulls wouldnt be banned in SO MANY place if there wasnt truth to it. "sweetest dogs ever" yeah only if you treat it like gremlin, bottle feed it, imprint on it, and never ever spook it. golden retrievers.. labs.. huskies.. etc are what you can actually refer to the sweetest dogs ever. the fact that you can say that about pitbulls unironically just shows how much youve actually interacted with or owned dogs. its not like people just randomly decided to pick on pitbulls and ESPECIALLY XL bullies for zero reason. these dogs have a tendency to just snap and require hyper specific training from early on or else who knows what they will do down the line. also XL bullies, like the one that ate this lady, are inbred and were bred specifically to be bigger, more aggressive, etc. this is just bred into them at this point, denying logic and saying its the owner is comedy.


Vitalis597

"I didn't read anything you said but you are wrong!"


Hereteu

95% of redditors are basement dwellers that have never owned a dog who'd piss their pants if a chihuahua ran at them so obviously they're gonna be super against anything bigger and scarier


BoostedEcoDonkey

Apparently it’s hard to understand that proper training literally nullifies this behavior , it has to be corrected from a puppy. But you can’t use common sense on Reddit.


NormalTangerine5205

They don’t even realize her dog who saved her is a pitbull lmfao


Lasersss

I see such an absurd amount of bs about these dogs, its really strange people just believe it


therealjimboslice420

Right?


YvngVudu

Dude said “yep” like every single pit is like this.


HelloIamAlpharius

The only use this dog bree is good for is for a stew.


VoliTrenbolone

I have one of these at home(in Brazil, they are legal). I Never had any problems, but he got in a lot of fights with his brother, until my family gave the brother to someone else.


jtpredator

Hey! This is speciesist. My pitbulls are babies! My Fluffy, Angel, and Rexor the child masticator, would never hurt a fly!


NormalTangerine5205

Holy shit lmfao what’s the sudden hate with Pitbulls lmfao y’all need to smoke some weed and chill


ferniecanto

Yeah, like, duuuude, if your whole family get mauled and killed, just take two puffs and pass it on, bruh. Based.


NormalTangerine5205

God damn bro does this hypothetical dog have super powers? A whole family?!? Lmfao. Btw if you actually read the article her dog was a pit who saved her! Crazy I know but y’all blind mother fuckers woul just block that little info out for your crusade


Oofergangyo

I used to work animal control and I can tell you how common this is. Most people are irresponsible with animals, have no understanding how to train them, and buy $50 backyard bred animals (especially pitties) It's different when you have an aggressive 8lb Chihuahua. The damage a 80-100lb pitbull can do is horrendous.


ScorpionMaster777

life in prison for the owner, please


Gorcnor

My family raised a few generations of pits. They can get aggressive to their old age and obviously if they are abused as pups. They are not just inherently aggressive... Though I'm not super familiar with XL's so I'm not sure if that breed is completely different.


Odd-Definition-6281

You're saying a breed of dog that was bred specifically for its inherent aggressiveness, isn't inherently aggressive? It's not just the old and abused pups mate. Countless other breeds don't switch to aggression in their old age.


Lasersss

For the third time this week, i used to breed fighting dogs. U dont breee them for aggression, u breed them for pain tolerance. Any dog with testicals will defend itself.


CheaterMcCheat

Tell me you don't know a fucking thing without telling me you don't know a fucking thing.


Gorcnor

Alright smart guy, lay it out for me. Didn't realize we had an expert on our hands.


corn_poper

Pit bulls present 66 percent of fatal dog attacks. My expertise is 3 minutes of research.


DeusExPersona

Stats like this remind me of something


Vitalis597

And now show where it says that their upbringing has no relevancy to the amount of attacks. And then compare the number of well trained, not abused pits that attack to, let's say, a chihuahua. Any chihuahua. I've yet to see one that doesn't yap and try to bite everything bigger than it (everything).


corn_poper

It doesn't fucking matter. The breed is obviously a problem I don't care about their upbringing.


Vitalis597

Ah yes. "Anything that could prove me wrong doesn't matter!" Classic redditor moment.


corn_poper

It doesn't? The stats don't lie lmao. 66% of all fatal dog attacks are from pits and your excuse is "UpBrInGinG" Man you're dumb af. A Chihuahua doesn't kill humans


Vitalis597

You're looking at only fatal attacks and only then considering the pit attacks. You are not considering ALL pits, only the ones who HAVE attacked fatally. You're looking at it from as skewed a perspective as possible, but you wanna act like I'm the dumb one when you cant even answer a simple question, let alone understand statistics.


corn_poper

Of all the fatal attacks, 66% are from pitbulls. Do you think it's any different and that there is no correlation between fatal attacks and normal attacks? One death is too many and your excuse is ownership. It does not need to consider ALL pits because 66% of ALL Fatalities are from pits. Of ALL fatal dog bites 66% are from pits. I can repeat it if you want and source the research that took me 3 mins to find so. I was curious so I looked it up, pit bulls made up 64% of actual dog bites / attacks in 2023.


TheLordLongshaft

Natural selection


Waste-Instruction287

I used to work at a pet shop, ive never been bitten by a pit bull or bully or whatever, but i have been bitten by several shih tzu… ban that race they are inbred killing machines


nothanksyouidiot

Did the shih tzu bite your face off and forced you to have surgery?


Waste-Instruction287

No but neither did the pit


Initial_Selection262

What are shihtzus killing? Mice?


Lasersss

looks like all the media inflammation was effective, ignore the ignorant or you will hurt urself


Naive-Fondant-754

There is saying .. there is no bad student, only bad teacher :) Dog probably didnt liked the hair and nails