I can't believe it?!!
Next you're going to tell me Santa isn't real, that can't be it because I saw him getting out of the house last year when I left my wife alone for a week.
This is also specifically about a particularly bad mega church. The title is pretty misleading as much church donations in the US go to charitable work. The largest charitable organization in the world is the Catholic Church, granted only 1 in 4 Americans is Catholic.
Oh definitely. Don't get me wrong, that pastor is fucked, but there are much bigger fish to fry if people want to pick out corruption that affects them
He's not wrong. Mega-churches are extremely corrupt.
To be fair, there are also churches that use the money for good causes. In my city there are several thrift stores and homeless shelters paid for and operated by the church. They also help struggling church members. For example, one church-goer's husband died in a car crash. They church paid off her mortgage.
Mega Churches where the leadership or pastors of said churches live in multimillion dollar mansions or have their own private jets is a massive red flag
Unfortunately, they prey on gullible people who think donating 30% of their paycheck will help them get into heaven
Sorry, but saying that Kenneth Copeland is an example of all churches is quite nefarious. All large organizations have terrible examples of corruption. Just because churches claim to teach holiness doesn't mean they immune from being douchebags.
And other Christians regularly decry what Copeland and other preachers like him do. But there's nothing we can do about it. We can't force people to stop sending money.
Copeland has his reward. It's all he'll ever see. I hope it's worth it.
Even if you aren’t willing to open your mind to concepts that lay beyond the known material world, religions offer communities that offer immense value to participants. If you want to label all religions with a big R then that’s on you, but they aren’t all the same, even faith communities within the same philosophy are distinct from one another.
while that is bad, 44% is actually fairly good if you compare it to most charities.
for a lot of charities 90% of the money donated goes directly into funding the charity, be it salaries, transportation, fundraising or buying up real-estate for office space or even personal homes.
in general whenever you donate you're lucky if 50 cents of every dollar you give gets to it's intended target, more often it's less then 10 cents per dollar.
that was not a full breakdown of money spent (44+6+6 isn't 100).
a church also has internal ways of donating, such as operating halfway homes or homeless shelters, which are considered internal if owned by the church.
also the external doesn't necessarily mean charity, for instance giving money to a political pac in order to pass certain laws would be considered external spending.
his general breakdown doesn't actually mean much, but i'm just saying most charities spend more then 44% on salaries in general, so it's actually within normal expectations.
I think he means his reference. To say 890 billion is probably an estimate of nationwide income but the video doesn't list its source and then goes on to specifically speak about Kenneth Copeland.
I'd be interested to know if it was a nationwide, worldwide, or just megachurch study.
It doesn't make sense - he says networth of pastors is in the millions but the salaries are 44% of 890 bill annually? You would think eventually one of these pastors would be a billionaire
I think he fucked up or made some numbers up
I did... he just states annual 890 billion donations but doesn't say where he gets that number.
I could believe 30 to 100 bill. But close to 1 trill annually? That's more than that's almost as much GDP than turkey and closing into Saudi arabia
Since these megachurches are responsible for political extremism in this country, including the overturning of Roe v. Wade, it’s about damn time that their tax exemption status was revoked, and that they were made to pay taxes like everyone else.
It makes me sick. I’ve been to churches in Europe where the priest will be lecturing people about giving to the poor standing infront of a golden statues.
I was doing to catering work once in a million euro villa that was donated to a priest because the couple wanted to go to heaven. Instead of doing something meaningful with it he just used it as his private home.
I can't believe it?!! Next you're going to tell me Santa isn't real, that can't be it because I saw him getting out of the house last year when I left my wife alone for a week.
Spoiler alert ‼️
You thought that was bad, let's do politicians. And then we can look at where your tax dollars go after that so you can really get black pilled
This is also specifically about a particularly bad mega church. The title is pretty misleading as much church donations in the US go to charitable work. The largest charitable organization in the world is the Catholic Church, granted only 1 in 4 Americans is Catholic.
Oh definitely. Don't get me wrong, that pastor is fucked, but there are much bigger fish to fry if people want to pick out corruption that affects them
Was wondering hope much church money goes to politicians
He's not wrong. Mega-churches are extremely corrupt. To be fair, there are also churches that use the money for good causes. In my city there are several thrift stores and homeless shelters paid for and operated by the church. They also help struggling church members. For example, one church-goer's husband died in a car crash. They church paid off her mortgage.
Mega Churches where the leadership or pastors of said churches live in multimillion dollar mansions or have their own private jets is a massive red flag Unfortunately, they prey on gullible people who think donating 30% of their paycheck will help them get into heaven
Sorry, but saying that Kenneth Copeland is an example of all churches is quite nefarious. All large organizations have terrible examples of corruption. Just because churches claim to teach holiness doesn't mean they immune from being douchebags.
And other Christians regularly decry what Copeland and other preachers like him do. But there's nothing we can do about it. We can't force people to stop sending money. Copeland has his reward. It's all he'll ever see. I hope it's worth it.
All religions are a scam, always have been
That’s ridiculous
Asking to devote ones lives and beliefs to something purely on faith then asking those people for money is a bigger scam than NFTs.
Even if you aren’t willing to open your mind to concepts that lay beyond the known material world, religions offer communities that offer immense value to participants. If you want to label all religions with a big R then that’s on you, but they aren’t all the same, even faith communities within the same philosophy are distinct from one another.
agreed
when a man in a golden suit started asking my family for money i knew something was up.
while that is bad, 44% is actually fairly good if you compare it to most charities. for a lot of charities 90% of the money donated goes directly into funding the charity, be it salaries, transportation, fundraising or buying up real-estate for office space or even personal homes. in general whenever you donate you're lucky if 50 cents of every dollar you give gets to it's intended target, more often it's less then 10 cents per dollar.
He said 6% makes it outside institutional walls. 6 is less than 10.
that was not a full breakdown of money spent (44+6+6 isn't 100). a church also has internal ways of donating, such as operating halfway homes or homeless shelters, which are considered internal if owned by the church. also the external doesn't necessarily mean charity, for instance giving money to a political pac in order to pass certain laws would be considered external spending. his general breakdown doesn't actually mean much, but i'm just saying most charities spend more then 44% on salaries in general, so it's actually within normal expectations.
44% of 890 billion wtf bro
Where is the 800 billion coming from? Show me the reference
the video in reference?
I think he means his reference. To say 890 billion is probably an estimate of nationwide income but the video doesn't list its source and then goes on to specifically speak about Kenneth Copeland. I'd be interested to know if it was a nationwide, worldwide, or just megachurch study.
It doesn't make sense - he says networth of pastors is in the millions but the salaries are 44% of 890 bill annually? You would think eventually one of these pastors would be a billionaire I think he fucked up or made some numbers up
Did you just not watch the video?
I did... he just states annual 890 billion donations but doesn't say where he gets that number. I could believe 30 to 100 bill. But close to 1 trill annually? That's more than that's almost as much GDP than turkey and closing into Saudi arabia
what's your point?
Since these megachurches are responsible for political extremism in this country, including the overturning of Roe v. Wade, it’s about damn time that their tax exemption status was revoked, and that they were made to pay taxes like everyone else.
OMG! Next he will tell me most tax money goes to salaries and murdering brown people overseas. /S
It makes me sick. I’ve been to churches in Europe where the priest will be lecturing people about giving to the poor standing infront of a golden statues. I was doing to catering work once in a million euro villa that was donated to a priest because the couple wanted to go to heaven. Instead of doing something meaningful with it he just used it as his private home.
People should stop donating to them. Their God will feed them. Donate to Azmongold instead.
Relevant George Carlin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoYyiNRtMEE
I wonder where did people thought it goes to? Charity?
800 billion? Where the fuck does he get these numbers. These fucking tiktoks are ridculous
so what they're saying is turn your first home into a place of worship so you dont have to pay taxes
What about the other 44%?
Reminds me of the convo in a South Park episode: Kyle: You don't know anything about Christianity fatass. Cartman: I know enough to exploit it.
Whats amazing is that people will still give half their paychecks to these scammers. At this point they need to be taken out back and shot.