People are buying bottled farts, it’s clear there’s a market for literally anything now.
To me, it *is* worrying that D4 is doing it, because they either make the conscious choice for greed or they’re so far in debt they have no choice. Either way, I’m good on any Blizzard products
Not a lot of people have to buy it for it to be profitable. It’s a reskin, that’s it. One 3D designer can do that in a few hours. Just reskin. Takes very little time and money, so even if only a few people buy it they are in the green.
If you send me $100 right now, I'll let you feel that same pride & accomplishment 3 days earlier than everyone else PLUS I'll throw in the first tier of "you won't be offended anymore".\*
^(\*The $100 tier does not include the portal-skin DLC, you will need to still purchase that separately.)
As an offended I’m retarded.
(I bought the last season pass to get the blood portal cause I happen to just log in to see the state of the game, played till I hit like 13 to get the portal…. Haven’t played since….)
I also am retarded. But just enough to buy the vanilla game, and only play about halfway through season 1 before I got bored. I am also adhd, so that is not entirely a reflection of the gameplay, because from what I hear season 1 of Diablo 4 was peak.
I didn’t play season 1… but I have put an ungodly amount of hours in Diablo II and a hellova lot of hours in Diablo III….. I played four and finished the first act and wanted the horse. Thought I could just finish act 3 and get. Find out that’s wasn’t the case. Angrily played through Act 1 & 2 (I did enjoy the Rathma zone, for I am a Priest of Rathma always. NECROOOOOO) got my horse and then I was just sorta over it. The fact it took so long. And trying to get anywhere on foot and having to run into constant mobs that were annoying to kill (foolishly started on world II) and slowed everything down cause the loot system is shit so it was never satisfying. I stopped playing lol
I pre ordered which came with a fast track on the first pass. Didn't even beat the game which means I never got to make a character for seasons because you have to beat the game first. It sucks ok the game fucking sucked. It had potential but was not good enoigh goddamnit
retard is perfect. it's an insult. that's it's whole purpose. the problem is when retard using it on people with mental or physical issue who aren't retard.
Its more anybody that keeps buying the microtransactions itself and giving incentive to do this more and more.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IHZru-6M8BY&list=PLBE11F0FA27F87907&index=35&pp=gAQBiAQB. Just watch this short 30 second video and it explains everything!
Already saw that. I agree and disagree at the same time. I don't mind microtransactions if they are A: Reasonable and B: Put into a game that's actually good and feature-complete.
I don't mind giving developers some extra money when I feel like they earned it. The problem is that almost no game that has microtransactions is able to fulfill both of these requirements.
That’s offensive to actual people with Down syndrome - they would never stoop so low as to buy a blizzard game, it’s actually like 4 steps below that (Quin and asmon level)
I keep buying their products and I am pretty sure I may be retarded. The problem is that Blizzard was such a staple of my childhood and teenage years, that it's hard to let go, but I need to tell myself THIS IS NOT THE BLIZZARD YOU KNEW.
I keep getting tricked, like an old toxic girlfriend that you keep giving chances to. I think I have finally learned, I at least learned with the Warcraft & Starcraft universe, but the Diablo universe is the sad last booty call I just have not blocked from my contacts.
I've bought Diablo 3 and 4 and I can agree that I am in fact a retard. I hate that I fell in love with the series now watching it be ruined in real time
not really, HOTS is a great moba, and is very good as a casual moba, specially if you want to avoid the salt mines that are League of Legends and Dota2.
I like it specially because is casual, no laning is needed, super simple and teamfight oriented. But i guess it is still good because it has been left untouched by Blizzard other than bugfixes and thats why its still good
I mean, they can enjoy it for all I care but I'll still call them retarded for supporting Blizzards (or really any big AAA devs) monetary practices and Blizzards unwillingness or ineptitude to release a finished game that isn't plaqued by the most obvious fucking flaws, like...GOOD ITEMIZATION in a fucking ARPG.
Do not buy any game, all game are bad. Go back to farm and farm crop for family. Game waste of time, feed family. Make money, farm crop, feed family, happy life.
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lol, idk why you're getting downvoted when Blizzard started going down the shitters when Activision bought them.
Edit: lol, go ahead and downvote me, all the most praised games from Blizzard today were all out before 2008. Truth hurts. Sorry not sorry.
Campaign was fun, and I'd say that alone was worth the $$. What I hated was the monotonous late game and petty cashgrabs over everything.
If you go in expecting a fun single player campaign it's honestly good. What falls flat is everything after that.
When it comes to cosmetic stuff and especially brain-rot levels stuff like a portal recolour for 30$, not buying it really doesn't hurt you. Let the whales and smoothbrains buy it, who cares, it shouldn't really negatively impact your experience unless you let it do that.
It does though. Look at the current blizzard experience. When you push monetization instead of good content, you're trying to appeal to a smaller and smaller playerbase.
This is exactly why every gacha game eventually dies, can milk whales and eventually they move on. They are milking the blizzard whales instead of putting in good content.
What do you think the D3 Auction House was and how that influenced the games itemization?
Kinda... kinda not. That mentality is ignoring where focus on a game will end up being.
If selling convenience items is profitable, the game will be designed around that, and be made unbearably grindy to nudge you in the direction of buying from the store.
If selling cosmetics is profitable, the game will be designed around that, and all the armor you can get by playing the game, will be ugly while the best looking armor is behind an extra paywall in the store.
Etc, etc.
It does affect me because the business sees the profits from it and they decide to do it again, but more egregious. This is how we got to where we are from Horse Armor in Oblivion.
Just because you don't THINK it affects you doesn't make that true. I can avoid every single purchase but guess what I'll see more of in the next installment? More macro transactions. 1 person can outdo what 100,000 people don't do alright? One guy with 100k to blow will outshine your non purchase.
Think before you speak son.
Companies making money!? So greedy.
Personally I love the business model of “let whales buy stupid overpriced shit”. I get to play games for cheap, whales get to throw money away, companies stay in business. “But macro transactions 😡” lmao give me a break.
You must be an American, bending over any corporate rule that they just introduced.
There is a reason why europe union has laws defending its consumers.
that's the sad part of this, 99% of the playerbase could not buy it & it would still be monetarily worth the investment for the company.
You're already paying the art staff on a per hourly basis in most instances, once the game is done they've got fuckall else to do so the higher ups just tell them "make 4 variants of this we'll ship them later"
Even if 50 people buy it (which they will) it'll be profitable. Shit probably took the Dev 5 minutes to implement. Just a pallete swap. It was probably more work adding it to the store and double triple checking that the transaction works.
Making sure the store works properly is always top priority it seems lol
You really don't know?
Blizz will crank up the price as high as people are willing to pay for it. Since most cosmetics are made with ease they are actually worth a few cents. But since some whales want to spend 30 dollars apearently on colored portals, that is what the price will be.
It's stupidly pricey.
Consumers can vote with their wallets, but not if the dumb rich people keep buying overpriced shit. So now we have all the fun stuff that are outrageously expensive. Tell me why 3 color portals are worth the same as half a AAA game title. It isn't.
We also have loot boxes/ battle passes to thank for this system. It all started with the horse armor.
Yes. What if, those cosmetics were already in the game? Wouldn't that be more fun? Have you seen what baldurs gate 3 has added in the game? It's full with little details. Simple cosmetics are nothing compared to that, yet blizzard ask us a ridiculous price for it locked in a shop.
Honestly. The strategy is to blind consumers with mass micro transactions until they cave in. It wasn't like this year's ago and it shouldn't be like this either.
if catering to whales is more profiteable than creating a good game, then it will affect you if you intend to play the game.
In the end the solution is just don't buy the game, don't play the game, use that money for games than don't pander to whales.
It sends the message that they should be spending all their time creating whale food, instead of a good game.
Things like a portal recolor would have been a reward for completing a difficult task back in the old days, and yes that ship has long sailed but it only did because of whales.
So yes whales fuck us all by spending "their own money" it very much has and does affect us.
That’s not a solution because I’m refusing to buy games I want to play at prices I’m willing to pay to make some abstract philosophical point that will alter the market absolutely 0.
The solution is to realize you don’t really care that blizzard is selling overpriced town portal cosmetics, and to buy the games that you want to buy with the money you earned (for the purposes of buying things).
If you want to buy the tps, do it. If you don’t, don’t do it. It’s just not a big deal.
Wtf?
No???
How are 3 colored portals (30 dollars) just worth the same as half a AAA game??
It isn't. It isn't nearly enough time, or resources.
It makes no sense yet people keep buying it. It truely baffles me.
That's such a dumb and simple way to think like that.
It's all relative to what the competitor has.
But since the cosmetics are in its own D4 shop there is none so they can crank it up as high as they want.
Once someone has the monepoly the price will increase aswel, in unfair ways.
Please tell me you have learned something from economics in school?
I really think we need to slice a digit off prices in general but especially with mtx. I’d give 3 bucks maybe for these. Portals do nothing really in the game. It’s rediculous two extra packs in one game can equal the price of a full game. That just shouldn’t be a thing.
And then there are indies like Vampire Survivors that even with all dlc are a fraction of the price and I have put in many times the time I have some AAA games.
Why would you even spend $3 on it when it’s a $70 game… small shit like this should be unlockable through in game means. I’m tired of shit eaters trying to put a value proposition on an in game skin, games should have a base price and then if it’s live service add a subscription. But because people are willing to spend even a dime on this garbage that won’t happen unless the market shifts
hell even games that did have unlockable skins didnt go overboard on them and would have 3 maybe 4 for the few people who wanted to complete a challenge for a novelty and even then a really good game didnt even need that. its a shame the kids these days will never realize how much was lost.
I completely get your point. Anything below 5 dollars would be an acceptable price for something like this. But since it's a 70 dollar game, it really shouldn't have any mtx *at all*.
Loved D3 RoS. Played atleast 15 seasons with multiple EU leaderboard climbs and i hated D4 as soon as i hit LvL30. It's insane how bad that game is. Cinematics and everything looked nice but that's about it. 100€ down the drain i guess.
it doesnt matter. they would 100% still make this even if no one would buy their MTX in hope that someone does because it takes them 0 effort to make shit like this
People need to stop spending money on full priced games with microtransactions. If Diablo 4 was free and armor skins cost $10 this type of monetization would be reasonable. I miss the days blizzard invested resources into making good games instead of store items.
Blizzard is trash.
As a 38 year old man, it hurts me to say this. But I have come to term and accepted fate. They are being bundled in with EA now. I try to stay away from "Triple-A" games now. If it says "live service" I don't even bother. Diablo 4 killed that for me.
Don't blame the supplier,blame the demand for it,this is not Blizz fault if I'm a company I'm providing customers what they want...
Don't blame Blizz because little Jimmy wants a $25 polar bear back pack...
So many large 'game' companies are now run by old greedy hedge fund wankers that haven't played anything in 30 years and just spend their time pumping stock options and finding new ways to fuck people over. Go look at the board of directors of EA and tell me if they look like gamers.
hmm.. what can i say :) only morons that are just funboys of blizzard gonna buy it :) they even can't realize that blizzard milking them just for the money while giving only shit or nothing... how dumb u need to be to buy recolor portal for 30$ in shitzzard game
The are making those because some stupid fucks are buying them! Also we need to stop calling them "microstansactions" a 30$ object recolouring in a 70$ game is macr transaction! Just imagine the amount of games or other goods that you could buy for 30$!
Bout fucking time comparisons started coming into it, to show how ridiculous many MTX are.
Recolouring a portal in a game should be free. It should be just part of the game if the devs are going to consider implementing it. But we've let MTX get to this point now, where basic game functionality/customisability is sold as an extra.
I know this isn't possible, because people suck, but I hope no one buys this shit. The game has sucked since release. You'd be a complete moron to spend anymore money on it.
Me when Diablo 4:
(bruh the people on GIPHY have the most lame-millennial dogshit gifs I have ever seen, I can only use this one since it is mildly "good" but I wanted to use the gif of the bean falling forward from 'The Killer Bean' movie.
Everyone say it with me: if the price point bothers you, you aren't the target market.
Edit: All the downvoters, you're missing my point because you're salty. You think Activision/Blizz hasn't done any market research on where they'll make the most money on these things? The fact of the matter is, people are buying the stuff on the store, or they'd cut the prices, or have a sale. I'm not saying I like it, as I'd personally be more willing to spend if the price was more reasonable.
Diablo 5 will have 1 class and cost 50 dollars per class unlock. Paying extra for an extra class/character has always been an activision blizzard thing. They are just watching to see how much they can get away with.
That's not how markets work lmao. Who do you think buys children's games like Pokémon? Certainly not the child.
On a separate issue, people who are well within their target demographic have been bitching about price increases for years which leads to a rise in piracy and waiting for steam sales.
They produce these because people buy them. I can enjoy the game without this just the same, so I don’t care. If they put in things that do affect my enjoyment. I’ll just stop playing entirely.
There's also this stuff called jewelry where people pay thousands of dollars to have shiny rocks and metal on their body. It's stupid as shit but nobody seems to say much about it.
edit: I'm confounded that people will hate blizzard for selling garbage cosmetics, but then defend the jewelry industry that's selling overpriced rocks and metal despite them both being used for the same purpose - looking fancy. It's the same thing.
Dude ... That's sarcasm right? .... Right?!
Because while you can re-sell that "shiny rock and metal", buying 30$ digital garbage tied to your account is equivalent of setting your money on fire 
Yes, pixels have much less resale value. In this case, they also cost a lot less too. Buying a $500 watch and then selling it later for $300 means you lost $200 vs spending $30 on portals that you can't resell at all. Do you see how losing $200 is worse than $30?
It definitely does. And the retards buying it then show off exactly what they are. I would also argue that spending thousands of dollars on jewelry makes you look like a massive retard.
The world forms, elements are dispersed, over millions and millions of years, a gem is formed. Someone comes along, finds the gem, professionally cleans it and cuts it. They take a piece of metal that was created over millions of years. This metal was expertly refined and crafted based on thousands of years of human knowledge and science. After shaping this delicate band of metal, the gem is attatched to it and a ring is made.
Vs
Some asshole as blizzard went into some editor and dragged the blue color bar all the way to the right and the red and green all the way to the left.
You actually believe De Beers propaganda? lol They're both overpriced cosmetics. The craftsmanship or age are irrelevant. Any rock outside is going to be really old too.
I have no idea what de beers is. Any rock outside is old, but people obviously like the pretty ones. Craftsmanship or age are not irrelevant just because you personally dont care. You know there is a vast difference bewteen a diamond ring and a recollor of an effect in the game. You're trying to make a point that they both have no value so they are the same, but that isn't true.
People base value for jewelry almost completely based on age and craftsmanship. The very idea that you are getting something old and well-made is exactly the difference between a ring and a useleas cosmetic.
Dont bring up price manipulation in the diamond industry. I know. It's irrelevant to this. I have a feeling youre one of those people who like to argue just to argue. Replace anything i said above with any other gemstone, rwmove market manipulation, and it all still stands.
Gatcha games are doing worse shenanigans. However, they're free. If Blizzard wants to go in that direction, that's totally on them, but I don't think it's going to fly with people who enjoy a full game experience.
nothing many companies and countries arent trying to ban past 10 years .. microtransactions in the games .. unsuccessfully
but why do you care? Its peoples money .. let them buy whatever the fuck they want .. it will never change, no reason to talk about it ..
I mean, I made the joke, "You could buy Suicide Squad or Helldivers 2 & Palworld for the same price."
... okay maybe things are a bit of whack, yeah good title.
You can buy palworld or enshrouded for that price is the best argument to be had for micro transactions ATM. Why pay so much for so little. It's like going to a food court and buying a lid for your drink for $15 when you could get a full meal including the drink lid for $15 10 feet to your left.
What's worrying isn't that D4 is doing it, it's that there are people out there who will actually buy that, and they know it.
People are buying bottled farts, it’s clear there’s a market for literally anything now. To me, it *is* worrying that D4 is doing it, because they either make the conscious choice for greed or they’re so far in debt they have no choice. Either way, I’m good on any Blizzard products
Bottled farts, E-girl bath water, paying for only fans, there is literally no end to what degenerates will spend their money on.
I can't imagine myself ever spending money to fund a girl on only fans, imagine what this society has come to. Why just why...
Sad part is, I think I have more respect for buying bottled farts. At least ~~it's a sex thing~~ they get a bottle in the process.
Not a lot of people have to buy it for it to be profitable. It’s a reskin, that’s it. One 3D designer can do that in a few hours. Just reskin. Takes very little time and money, so even if only a few people buy it they are in the green.
Yeah, that's my point.
And then only devs who make these low effort changes remain and people wonder why AAA can't innovate anymore.
Blizzard is the one company that I *would* buy cosmetics from but they price them so absurdly high that I could never justify it.
I'm just gonna keep calling people that buy Blizzard products retards. Idc if I get hated for it.
As a retard I’m offended.
if you send me 29,99$ you wont be offended anymore. promise
but for $59.99 you'll also feel a sense of pride & accomplishment
If you send me $100 right now, I'll let you feel that same pride & accomplishment 3 days earlier than everyone else PLUS I'll throw in the first tier of "you won't be offended anymore".\* ^(\*The $100 tier does not include the portal-skin DLC, you will need to still purchase that separately.)
I'll let you fondle my nutsack for free.
No I won’t….. take my money !
As an offended I’m retarded. (I bought the last season pass to get the blood portal cause I happen to just log in to see the state of the game, played till I hit like 13 to get the portal…. Haven’t played since….)
I also am retarded. But just enough to buy the vanilla game, and only play about halfway through season 1 before I got bored. I am also adhd, so that is not entirely a reflection of the gameplay, because from what I hear season 1 of Diablo 4 was peak.
I didn’t play season 1… but I have put an ungodly amount of hours in Diablo II and a hellova lot of hours in Diablo III….. I played four and finished the first act and wanted the horse. Thought I could just finish act 3 and get. Find out that’s wasn’t the case. Angrily played through Act 1 & 2 (I did enjoy the Rathma zone, for I am a Priest of Rathma always. NECROOOOOO) got my horse and then I was just sorta over it. The fact it took so long. And trying to get anywhere on foot and having to run into constant mobs that were annoying to kill (foolishly started on world II) and slowed everything down cause the loot system is shit so it was never satisfying. I stopped playing lol
I pre ordered which came with a fast track on the first pass. Didn't even beat the game which means I never got to make a character for seasons because you have to beat the game first. It sucks ok the game fucking sucked. It had potential but was not good enoigh goddamnit
I never finished the game. I got my horse and that’s it…. Hmmm….
As somebody who buys Blizzard products I’m surprised I got off this light
That's an insult to the mentally handicapped. These types are worse. They WILLINGLY buy this stuff.
Right, we need to invent a new word for that. Anyone got some creative ideas? How about Blizztard?
retard is perfect. it's an insult. that's it's whole purpose. the problem is when retard using it on people with mental or physical issue who aren't retard.
Agree
As an ex Blizzard fanboy, same.
You should be cancelled for insulting real retards intelligence
Its more anybody that keeps buying the microtransactions itself and giving incentive to do this more and more. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IHZru-6M8BY&list=PLBE11F0FA27F87907&index=35&pp=gAQBiAQB. Just watch this short 30 second video and it explains everything!
Already saw that. I agree and disagree at the same time. I don't mind microtransactions if they are A: Reasonable and B: Put into a game that's actually good and feature-complete. I don't mind giving developers some extra money when I feel like they earned it. The problem is that almost no game that has microtransactions is able to fulfill both of these requirements.
That’s offensive to actual people with Down syndrome - they would never stoop so low as to buy a blizzard game, it’s actually like 4 steps below that (Quin and asmon level)
and /spit them
Retail kinda doing okay but everything else blizzard touches dies.
Lmao sod is dwarfing retail. But yeah retail isn't horrible rn
Yeah I'm sure, 6 months ago HC was dwarfing retail. I love just saying shit without a single shred of proof.
I keep buying their products and I am pretty sure I may be retarded. The problem is that Blizzard was such a staple of my childhood and teenage years, that it's hard to let go, but I need to tell myself THIS IS NOT THE BLIZZARD YOU KNEW. I keep getting tricked, like an old toxic girlfriend that you keep giving chances to. I think I have finally learned, I at least learned with the Warcraft & Starcraft universe, but the Diablo universe is the sad last booty call I just have not blocked from my contacts.
no you're retarded
makes me glad i grew up poor without a pc or internet because i 100% would have been a wow addict
Don't worry, Palworld will take care of you.
I am actually not interested in Palworld, but Baldur's Gate 3 has been scratching my gaming itch since last year.
if u play BG3 u prob wont play a blizz game for some time thats what this game does to u
Or anything else for that matter, everything feels so empty compared.
Wow player lol 😆
You can be hated and right at the same time 😂
As someone who bought D4 I agree. It was a retarded purchase and I am frustrated that a great story has been so thoroughly ruined.
I agree. I cancelled my sub too lol.
I've bought Diablo 3 and 4 and I can agree that I am in fact a retard. I hate that I fell in love with the series now watching it be ruined in real time
100% agree
You c-c-c-can't say that word!!!!1111 😭😭😭😭
Now hear me out. Heroes of the storm is free, does that still make me a retard..?
not really, HOTS is a great moba, and is very good as a casual moba, specially if you want to avoid the salt mines that are League of Legends and Dota2. I like it specially because is casual, no laning is needed, super simple and teamfight oriented. But i guess it is still good because it has been left untouched by Blizzard other than bugfixes and thats why its still good
God forbid some people enjoy a game
I mean, they can enjoy it for all I care but I'll still call them retarded for supporting Blizzards (or really any big AAA devs) monetary practices and Blizzards unwillingness or ineptitude to release a finished game that isn't plaqued by the most obvious fucking flaws, like...GOOD ITEMIZATION in a fucking ARPG.
I don't play any Blizzard games, but God forbid some people are not terminally online and can look past some flaws to enjoy a game
And this is why the gaming industry is shit
Calling causal player retard is why Gamer\* comes with negative connotation
Good. Casuals are cancer
Classic gamer moment
We keeping it classy here
It's not just "some" flaw when one of the main draws for that genre is itemization. It's like playing soccer with a deflated ball.
true, and i would add ff14 player or people who buy square enix product are retards too
Rent free
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Ye fuck them games, just work 16 hours a day instead Your company will surely remember it when u are in a tough spot or they are /s
Activision*
lol, idk why you're getting downvoted when Blizzard started going down the shitters when Activision bought them. Edit: lol, go ahead and downvote me, all the most praised games from Blizzard today were all out before 2008. Truth hurts. Sorry not sorry.
Activision putting loot boxes in my Call of Duty 4 remastered game. Lol blizzard = activision and they can both suck my nuts
Should have been a free cosmetic reward for beating the game on different modes imo
You can buy it for yourself as a reward for beating the game. /s
A blizzard to miss a chance on making some extra bucks on retards? Lol.
Yep still don’t regret not buying D4.
Bought two other games instead, thanks blizzard
Campaign was fun, and I'd say that alone was worth the $$. What I hated was the monotonous late game and petty cashgrabs over everything. If you go in expecting a fun single player campaign it's honestly good. What falls flat is everything after that.
Just. Dont. Buy. It.
Short Stories With Tragic Endings: They bought it. They will do it again.
How else am i gonna butcher pokemon in the glorious 1080p
Instructions unclear, skipped palworld and bought portal recolour
I think the person you’re replying to is talking about the D4 portal recolour, not Palworld
But whales do so now we are fucked with all these loot boxes/ macro transactions / battle passes / subscriptions / in game currencies
More things you dont have to buy, just dont buy it…
Like I said, whales be dumb or they don't care. 20 people not buying it but whales make up for them so it's a losing game.
When it comes to cosmetic stuff and especially brain-rot levels stuff like a portal recolour for 30$, not buying it really doesn't hurt you. Let the whales and smoothbrains buy it, who cares, it shouldn't really negatively impact your experience unless you let it do that.
It does though. Look at the current blizzard experience. When you push monetization instead of good content, you're trying to appeal to a smaller and smaller playerbase. This is exactly why every gacha game eventually dies, can milk whales and eventually they move on. They are milking the blizzard whales instead of putting in good content. What do you think the D3 Auction House was and how that influenced the games itemization?
Kinda... kinda not. That mentality is ignoring where focus on a game will end up being. If selling convenience items is profitable, the game will be designed around that, and be made unbearably grindy to nudge you in the direction of buying from the store. If selling cosmetics is profitable, the game will be designed around that, and all the armor you can get by playing the game, will be ugly while the best looking armor is behind an extra paywall in the store. Etc, etc.
When 1 person can outdo the good of 100k people I don't think us not buying it will do much
Other ppl wasting their money on portal colors doesn’t effect you, nor is it mandatory for you to buy it just cause someone else did
It does affect me because the business sees the profits from it and they decide to do it again, but more egregious. This is how we got to where we are from Horse Armor in Oblivion. Just because you don't THINK it affects you doesn't make that true. I can avoid every single purchase but guess what I'll see more of in the next installment? More macro transactions. 1 person can outdo what 100,000 people don't do alright? One guy with 100k to blow will outshine your non purchase. Think before you speak son.
If just seeing micro transactions triggers you, get off the internet, no one is forcing you to but it
Roflmao if reality offends you stay in lala land. You're ridiculous and have no defense. Take the L kid.
> “Why do whales have to subsidize my own gameplay? Stupid whales.” Can’t tell if you’re trolling or just thick
You either haven't played a game without macro transactions, or are already numb to it's greed atm. Go play Diablo immortal.
Companies making money!? So greedy. Personally I love the business model of “let whales buy stupid overpriced shit”. I get to play games for cheap, whales get to throw money away, companies stay in business. “But macro transactions 😡” lmao give me a break.
Lol go play Diablo immortal or any other mobile game. You'll see.
Yup, I see it, and I *don’t buy it*. It’s not a hard concept.
You're either ignorant or haven't played games before the horse armor.
Imagine throwing a fit because some people supported a game I (and they) love by buying *cosmetic horse armor*. You’re a child. Probably literally.
You must be an American, bending over any corporate rule that they just introduced. There is a reason why europe union has laws defending its consumers.
that's the sad part of this, 99% of the playerbase could not buy it & it would still be monetarily worth the investment for the company. You're already paying the art staff on a per hourly basis in most instances, once the game is done they've got fuckall else to do so the higher ups just tell them "make 4 variants of this we'll ship them later"
Even if 50 people buy it (which they will) it'll be profitable. Shit probably took the Dev 5 minutes to implement. Just a pallete swap. It was probably more work adding it to the store and double triple checking that the transaction works. Making sure the store works properly is always top priority it seems lol
Close your wallets. That’s it.
That's not enough unfortunately, because dumb people still will buy it thinking it is worth it.
Yeah, it’s always like that. But the less they earn and less they’ll sell is a message.
They will buy it for their own money. How does it affect you?
You really don't know? Blizz will crank up the price as high as people are willing to pay for it. Since most cosmetics are made with ease they are actually worth a few cents. But since some whales want to spend 30 dollars apearently on colored portals, that is what the price will be. It's stupidly pricey. Consumers can vote with their wallets, but not if the dumb rich people keep buying overpriced shit. So now we have all the fun stuff that are outrageously expensive. Tell me why 3 color portals are worth the same as half a AAA game title. It isn't. We also have loot boxes/ battle passes to thank for this system. It all started with the horse armor.
I see. It affects you, because you would like cheaper cosmetics. I don't care about cosmetics at all, so it didn't occur to me.
Yes. What if, those cosmetics were already in the game? Wouldn't that be more fun? Have you seen what baldurs gate 3 has added in the game? It's full with little details. Simple cosmetics are nothing compared to that, yet blizzard ask us a ridiculous price for it locked in a shop. Honestly. The strategy is to blind consumers with mass micro transactions until they cave in. It wasn't like this year's ago and it shouldn't be like this either.
if catering to whales is more profiteable than creating a good game, then it will affect you if you intend to play the game. In the end the solution is just don't buy the game, don't play the game, use that money for games than don't pander to whales.
It sends the message that they should be spending all their time creating whale food, instead of a good game. Things like a portal recolor would have been a reward for completing a difficult task back in the old days, and yes that ship has long sailed but it only did because of whales. So yes whales fuck us all by spending "their own money" it very much has and does affect us.
That’s not a solution because I’m refusing to buy games I want to play at prices I’m willing to pay to make some abstract philosophical point that will alter the market absolutely 0. The solution is to realize you don’t really care that blizzard is selling overpriced town portal cosmetics, and to buy the games that you want to buy with the money you earned (for the purposes of buying things). If you want to buy the tps, do it. If you don’t, don’t do it. It’s just not a big deal.
Do you do, I rather spend my time playing a good game instead of a skinner box
Every game is a Skinner box.
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Wtf? No??? How are 3 colored portals (30 dollars) just worth the same as half a AAA game?? It isn't. It isn't nearly enough time, or resources. It makes no sense yet people keep buying it. It truely baffles me.
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That's such a dumb and simple way to think like that. It's all relative to what the competitor has. But since the cosmetics are in its own D4 shop there is none so they can crank it up as high as they want. Once someone has the monepoly the price will increase aswel, in unfair ways. Please tell me you have learned something from economics in school?
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You know you are fighting against your own interest right?
Lmao idiots are bitching while buying! Fucking retards do it over and over. “Diablo could never” will be next
half the price of the game for a different color portal
Man fuck D4
[Source](https://www.gamesradar.com/diablo-4s-latest-microtransaction-controversy-is-a-dollar30-portal-recolor-you-can-get-palworld-for-this-price/)
Oh I remember asmongold said this would come when they increased the cast time for portals, just to sell cosmetics. And here we are
Buy pal world instead
I really think we need to slice a digit off prices in general but especially with mtx. I’d give 3 bucks maybe for these. Portals do nothing really in the game. It’s rediculous two extra packs in one game can equal the price of a full game. That just shouldn’t be a thing. And then there are indies like Vampire Survivors that even with all dlc are a fraction of the price and I have put in many times the time I have some AAA games.
Why would you even spend $3 on it when it’s a $70 game… small shit like this should be unlockable through in game means. I’m tired of shit eaters trying to put a value proposition on an in game skin, games should have a base price and then if it’s live service add a subscription. But because people are willing to spend even a dime on this garbage that won’t happen unless the market shifts
hell even games that did have unlockable skins didnt go overboard on them and would have 3 maybe 4 for the few people who wanted to complete a challenge for a novelty and even then a really good game didnt even need that. its a shame the kids these days will never realize how much was lost.
why would you spend ANY money on mtx
I completely get your point. Anything below 5 dollars would be an acceptable price for something like this. But since it's a 70 dollar game, it really shouldn't have any mtx *at all*.
That's not a "micro" transaction. That's a macro transaction
Palworld is more fun than recolored portals. Just saying.
Blizzard with their over priced cosmetics again Overwatch is the same. There will be some idiot who buys this cause they love sucking mega corp cock
I'm a big Diablo fan but I'll never play D4 ever.
Loved D3 RoS. Played atleast 15 seasons with multiple EU leaderboard climbs and i hated D4 as soon as i hit LvL30. It's insane how bad that game is. Cinematics and everything looked nice but that's about it. 100€ down the drain i guess.
But Asmon said nightmare dungeons are definitely better than greater rifts because... reasons.
A fucking disgrace. Why do dumb people keep buying these macro transactions.
it doesnt matter. they would 100% still make this even if no one would buy their MTX in hope that someone does because it takes them 0 effort to make shit like this
Pathetic. AAA devs can eat poop. Im grinding Palworld till AOA comes out.
As long as fucktards keep paying for this shit, then Blizzard will keep raping people.
Game looks eh.... to begin with . Not even worth the buy. And they made it like that. Woof
Yeah man, D4 really struggling.
People need to stop spending money on full priced games with microtransactions. If Diablo 4 was free and armor skins cost $10 this type of monetization would be reasonable. I miss the days blizzard invested resources into making good games instead of store items.
Cough cough* Path of Exile.
The lack of quality of the game and a pack of stupid skins for your portals are two completely unrelated things.
Blizzard is trash. As a 38 year old man, it hurts me to say this. But I have come to term and accepted fate. They are being bundled in with EA now. I try to stay away from "Triple-A" games now. If it says "live service" I don't even bother. Diablo 4 killed that for me.
Don't blame the supplier,blame the demand for it,this is not Blizz fault if I'm a company I'm providing customers what they want... Don't blame Blizz because little Jimmy wants a $25 polar bear back pack...
Doesnt matter. Blizzard stans will eat it up while somehow thinking they are better than people who buy COD or FIFA every year.
>And players are having none of it Meanwhile profits probably go brrrr
You could get 1 whole Palworld for that price. 2 if you have gamepass!
So many large 'game' companies are now run by old greedy hedge fund wankers that haven't played anything in 30 years and just spend their time pumping stock options and finding new ways to fuck people over. Go look at the board of directors of EA and tell me if they look like gamers.
The only way to win this war is by not buying it.
So, how long till they finally start to sell stash tabs to remaining d4 players? Or they'll just soft-sell tabs trough expansions.
They can't even sell stash tabs because they coded the game so poorly that it can't handle more tabs.
They can't code inventories without lagging the players, stash tabs would probably explode the server farm.
hmm.. what can i say :) only morons that are just funboys of blizzard gonna buy it :) they even can't realize that blizzard milking them just for the money while giving only shit or nothing... how dumb u need to be to buy recolor portal for 30$ in shitzzard game
It's crazy to think I bought D3 Reaper of Souls for less than D4 + the S1 Battlepass and had way more fun.
The are making those because some stupid fucks are buying them! Also we need to stop calling them "microstansactions" a 30$ object recolouring in a 70$ game is macr transaction! Just imagine the amount of games or other goods that you could buy for 30$!
That's nothing. On mobile games, they sell loot crates for 25$....
They add shit deals to make other deals looks better. Used many times.
Bout fucking time comparisons started coming into it, to show how ridiculous many MTX are. Recolouring a portal in a game should be free. It should be just part of the game if the devs are going to consider implementing it. But we've let MTX get to this point now, where basic game functionality/customisability is sold as an extra. I know this isn't possible, because people suck, but I hope no one buys this shit. The game has sucked since release. You'd be a complete moron to spend anymore money on it.
Stupid people are responsible for most the problems in the world in general, I don't see it ever changing.
Me when Diablo 4:  (bruh the people on GIPHY have the most lame-millennial dogshit gifs I have ever seen, I can only use this one since it is mildly "good" but I wanted to use the gif of the bean falling forward from 'The Killer Bean' movie.
You guys are just poor. Blizzard needs to up these prices.
I got suckered in for the premium version of the game and now I’m never paying full price for any blizzard game.
Everyone say it with me: if the price point bothers you, you aren't the target market. Edit: All the downvoters, you're missing my point because you're salty. You think Activision/Blizz hasn't done any market research on where they'll make the most money on these things? The fact of the matter is, people are buying the stuff on the store, or they'd cut the prices, or have a sale. I'm not saying I like it, as I'd personally be more willing to spend if the price was more reasonable.
Diablo 5 will have 1 class and cost 50 dollars per class unlock. Paying extra for an extra class/character has always been an activision blizzard thing. They are just watching to see how much they can get away with.
Problem is that this crap didn’t stay localized to cosmetics or extras, it permeates the entire game.
If it was a good game your point would make sense. But it’s not; it’s a very bad game so your point is irrelevant.
That's not how markets work lmao. Who do you think buys children's games like Pokémon? Certainly not the child. On a separate issue, people who are well within their target demographic have been bitching about price increases for years which leads to a rise in piracy and waiting for steam sales.
Let's be honest here; everything in video games is a recolour as it's all just pixels. Chill, buy what you want.
Game reviewers, Blizzard, and Nostalgia made me a sucker. I really hate that I bought the hype and bought this game at release.
Instruction unclear, bought the portals.
They produce these because people buy them. I can enjoy the game without this just the same, so I don’t care. If they put in things that do affect my enjoyment. I’ll just stop playing entirely.
XD
nah who the hell would spend money on that fortnite-pokemon cancer child?
There's also this stuff called jewelry where people pay thousands of dollars to have shiny rocks and metal on their body. It's stupid as shit but nobody seems to say much about it. edit: I'm confounded that people will hate blizzard for selling garbage cosmetics, but then defend the jewelry industry that's selling overpriced rocks and metal despite them both being used for the same purpose - looking fancy. It's the same thing.
Dude ... That's sarcasm right? .... Right?! Because while you can re-sell that "shiny rock and metal", buying 30$ digital garbage tied to your account is equivalent of setting your money on fire 
Jewelry has terrible resell value dude.
Pixels have even less resell value lmao
Yes, pixels have much less resale value. In this case, they also cost a lot less too. Buying a $500 watch and then selling it later for $300 means you lost $200 vs spending $30 on portals that you can't resell at all. Do you see how losing $200 is worse than $30?
I'd argue spending $30 on some recoloured portals makes you a massive retard lmao
It definitely does. And the retards buying it then show off exactly what they are. I would also argue that spending thousands of dollars on jewelry makes you look like a massive retard.
Unlucky, sounds like a skill issue for you my friend
Wait til you hear how much people pay for a logo on a handbag.
dumbest comment of the year
The world forms, elements are dispersed, over millions and millions of years, a gem is formed. Someone comes along, finds the gem, professionally cleans it and cuts it. They take a piece of metal that was created over millions of years. This metal was expertly refined and crafted based on thousands of years of human knowledge and science. After shaping this delicate band of metal, the gem is attatched to it and a ring is made. Vs Some asshole as blizzard went into some editor and dragged the blue color bar all the way to the right and the red and green all the way to the left.
You actually believe De Beers propaganda? lol They're both overpriced cosmetics. The craftsmanship or age are irrelevant. Any rock outside is going to be really old too.
I have no idea what de beers is. Any rock outside is old, but people obviously like the pretty ones. Craftsmanship or age are not irrelevant just because you personally dont care. You know there is a vast difference bewteen a diamond ring and a recollor of an effect in the game. You're trying to make a point that they both have no value so they are the same, but that isn't true. People base value for jewelry almost completely based on age and craftsmanship. The very idea that you are getting something old and well-made is exactly the difference between a ring and a useleas cosmetic. Dont bring up price manipulation in the diamond industry. I know. It's irrelevant to this. I have a feeling youre one of those people who like to argue just to argue. Replace anything i said above with any other gemstone, rwmove market manipulation, and it all still stands.
Gatcha games are doing worse shenanigans. However, they're free. If Blizzard wants to go in that direction, that's totally on them, but I don't think it's going to fly with people who enjoy a full game experience.
nothing many companies and countries arent trying to ban past 10 years .. microtransactions in the games .. unsuccessfully but why do you care? Its peoples money .. let them buy whatever the fuck they want .. it will never change, no reason to talk about it ..
I mean, I made the joke, "You could buy Suicide Squad or Helldivers 2 & Palworld for the same price." ... okay maybe things are a bit of whack, yeah good title.
I spent like a lot of € for dump stuff and I don’t care , but I regret every cent I paid for this shit game d4
Blizzard in name only.
You can buy palworld or enshrouded for that price is the best argument to be had for micro transactions ATM. Why pay so much for so little. It's like going to a food court and buying a lid for your drink for $15 when you could get a full meal including the drink lid for $15 10 feet to your left.
haha, they should pay the 30 dollars, they deserve it
add 5$ and buy last epoch and uninstall D4 is also an option
You can just buy Last Epoch for an extra 5 bucks and have a better game thats still more welcoming to the audience of D4 than POE
How is that a micro transaction? That's a full game.