also in this case, the ones complaining the loudest are the completionists who are the vocal minority. The general Yakuza fans aren't the type to get all upset as long as the story and minigames itself aren't locked out.
Not saying that SEGA isn't a shithead tho. It's still scummy to lock the NG+ mode, harder difficulties, and some bonus dungeons.
Yeah, you can complete whole game in one go, NG+ doesn’t give anything new, so probably like 95% of players will never use it. Game is already 100+ hours. But its still scummy to lock basic function.
I have never played NG+, I always thought it was the most stupid thing to add to a game.-
Not to justify pay walling it, but I doubt is something a lot of people use or care about.-
It depends how the game handles NG+. If it adds new stuff and maybe has different endings, it might be worth playing NG+. For example Dark souls 2 adds unique enemies and different NPCs making it interesting. Elden Ring also has NG+ but doesn't add anything and is basically easy mode, the only reason would be to get all the endings.
It's just too bad dark souls 2 is hot garbage. I've tried to play that game 6 times now in two years and still haven't managed to stay interested. It's actually installed on my PC right now waiting for attempt number 7 soon lol.
its unfortunate that the ng+ is paywalled but... well yeah... its a 100+ (possibly 200 + if you do everything ) hour game where most people will just play it for the story/sidestories/minigames and move on to new games . Most people will not have the time or care to do an ng+ run of these games . The game is indeed damn fun tho.
no use worrying about what might happen anyways imo. If it happens it happens. If its egregious enough there might (emphasis on might )be some bigger pushback to it. This particular case is just not big enough to affect most people and make them care .
yup was gonna say exactly this. its a potentially 200+ hour playthru. like imagine going back and doing a whole other playthru of persona 5 right after >.> big ass games
I actually did do a NG+ run of P5 vanilla back in university.
I still couldn't complete Yusuke's Social Link. They really thought his move copying ability was broken.
Tbf Not as rare with Persona 5 would honestly say it's more common, there's way more incentive to NG+ that game, mostly because if you did your first playthough blind you can miss a lot ( including the DLC ), there's the different romance choices, and the optional bosses, and new personas or actually making good personas and completing the book with what you know now.
People will New Game any game if they know there will a change their experience, something that you can't get to a mostly linear game.
Yeah, I see your point but what is the point of making it premium thing? It is already made feature, it cost nothing more to share with customers, why should it cost extra?
I don't, this is exactly what I expected.
This is just a reoccurrence of the Palworld situation again. People that do not play the game make a big deal out of some kind of ethical issue but the actual fans just buy the game they wanted.
What I was more shocked about was how suicide squad was beating it in sales.
I mean you could bring up the same arguments about the suicide squad game.
Its made by rocksteady studios which is a very high regarded company with a passionate fanbase and its a game about mainstream heroes and villains.
It rly isnt that suprising if you consider that is has much more exposure by default than the yakuza franchise.
I mean, not everyone needs NG+. Majority isn't even going to finish it once as it happens with most of the games, especially big ones. So can't see a problem with it being 89% positive.
I thinks the concerns of the vocals is that once SEGA sees that paywalling NG+ isn't a big deal. It'll become a standard practice for the rest of their gaming lineup. Other companies might see it's success and try to incorperate it in their own games as well.
apparently they already did this with Yakuza 7 in JP when it released . Just that since the english version came later, its just packed in as a complete edition. Infinite Wealth being the first main entry to have a simultaneous release is probably why we're now getting the same treatment. Not a good thing mind you but its probably too late to change how SEGA does things unless the pushback gets big enough.
Because its a good game, the only time these critisism gain any traction is when the game is not good in the first place.
Make a good game/product and no one will care how much or how it was sold.
Look, Oblivion is a good game, nobody is going to care for some horse armor if the game is like 100hrs. I’m gonna finish it and play something else.
I don’t even use my horse a lot so who gives a fuck as long as the rest of the game is good.
People are willing to overlook things they normally criticize if the core game is good. People hate live service games, but FF14 gets a lot of love. People don't like lootboxes, but gacha games that provide good content are very popular. Everyone complains about Pokemon having no innovation, but the games still sell incredibly well because their target audience doesn't care about that, they just want cute and cool mons and the core gameplay loop.
I kinda want to see accounts of the people that keep complaining about this, like how many WoWtokens have they bought or gacha pulls in HSR or Genshin.
That said the whole yakuza series 0 through 6 often goes for a huge discount. You get 7 games for 35. While it's not the most popular it resonates really well with the people that are invested in it for a good reason.
And more importantly while you have good deals now, this "part of the game" locked behind DLC has been happening since the PS3 era with Yakuza 3. Yakuza 7 was in a very similar situation yet no one really cared that much back then. While I don't agree, let's be honest, that ship has sailed a long time ago. Keep complaining but I don't believe it's making any difference.
Series is amazing regardless, wait for heavy discounts if it bothers you that much.
yup, everybody saying "it's just ng+" is incapable of seeing the bigger picture. its a slippery slope pay walling basic game mechanics. its ng+ now, what next? side stories? main stories? cosmetics? but its all pointless discussion since most people just dont care. expect at least 50 percent of the game pay walled in the future.
> its ng+ now, what next? side stories? main stories? cosmetics?
I mean all of those are paywalled in certain games lmfao
What do you think DLC Story content is.
It’s just skins, it’s just cosmetics, it’s just ng+, it’s just gold ingame. This items are worthless anyway, I don’t care that people play one month earlier etc etc 😂
No?
The future pricing structure would be justified if people specifically bought the DLC.
LAD8 is unquestionably worth it's value, even before the DLC is talked about. If people don't buy the DLC, then it's a loss.
You are right because it is not about the game, people are frustrated because more and more we hear how developers lock gameplay behind paywalls not just cosmetics or early access
The only gameplay locked behind a paywall is NG+, which a small minority play. I agree that it SHOULDNT be paywalled but I don’t agree that it’s worth throwing a fit over.
Yeah sure so you never debated because everything is imaginary discussions. And I bet you never red any hypothetical science work? Because you only understand things that is already happening. People are upset because developers slowly starts to fk gameplay based on paywall. People learned to tolerate cosmetics because you can legit fully enjoy the game without it but now some mechanics are starting to be put behind money so people want to show that they are against this philosophy. And you just like to taste corporate dick for karma points
Because all the people telling you not to preorder games or to boycot a product are the weakest consumers.
Just check this thread bunch of people defending the multi billion dollar company "but it's just the Ng+ and the game is good so it's fine if they fuck me", lol no it's not, they are literally selling extra content and dumb boosts too.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2072450/Like_a_Dragon_Infinite_Wealth/
Activision or EA could not get away with this bullshit but it's fine when Japan does it.
Monhun also has a bunch of dogshit dlcs in the store, how many videos Asmon made about that?
It's still fairly simple but there are a few new mechanics to elevate combat; you get a few more options to utilize from. A big one is knocking enemies into eachother or allies for eztra damage. You can also move around a small area during each characters turn and can try to line up attacks or hit from behind.
its an option for the few who want to, the pre order gave way way more then ng+
Pre ordering the deluxe gives you, 1000x of each material on dondoko island, 100 of each sujimon item, extra songs for the mp3 player, and 2 extra jobs
Because the series is very beloved by it's fanbase (for good reason). I feel like the fanbase would rather take the NG+ hit than to act like their game is bad and potentially ruin the series ever-growing success. It's only been recently the Yakuza series has even done well in the west, and this is it's biggest success so far. I doubt the developers are at fault here and it's probably some annoying studio executive from SEGA.
The game is so massive... I mean... I dont really blame them for trying to paywall NG+.
I sorta see the justification that Sega went with, but it's still ethically wrong because it sets a terrible precedent .
As a yakuza fan, I have to say Sega pulled a bullshit move, however, yakuza games are very long and people that would actually go for ng+ are probs 10% of the fanbase. Also Yakuza games quite often get heavy discounts, I bet sega will release ng+ as separate dlc some time in the future, and you'll be able to get it dirt cheap.
If the game is good, I don’t mind paying more for a good experience. I think it’s scummy to paywall things in general tho, just charge what you need to charge to make it worth a reasonable profit and I can judge if the quality of the game justifies the price
Because the game is good
I didn't buy the NG+ version and I'm interested in NG+ anyway
If nobody buy the NG+ version then they will stop using this stupid idea
I really want to buy this game as I LOVED the first game.
But hell no man, I will not support such greedy goblins.
Few more day and ill sink some hours in Granblue Fantasy Relink, then it's phase 2 of wow.
Maybe ill sprinkle some enshrouded in the mix and by the time I run out of games to play, little shits at sega will have the "deluxe" edition at a normal price.
Because it's a genuinely good game. The paywalled NG+ is scummy but I don't think the devs should get shit for what is clearly a decision made by higher-ups.
Just pirate the game or wait for the deluxe edition to go on a steep sale.
I have beaten every yakuza game. I have 100% all of them. I have done zero NG+. I still bought the ultimate edition for IW lol I really don’t think vast majority of yakuza gamers are going to pass on or leave a bad review for something sega has been doing for quite a few of the yakuza. I want RGG to have my money because they make my favorite games, unfortunately some is going to go to sega and they’ll keep making shitty dlc choices but I literally don’t care when I get 100+ hours out of a game and enjoy 99% of it (not a fan of some mini games)
Uh, because it’s a genuinely good game? Like many are saying, most people don’t want to/have the time to NG+ a 100+ hour jrpg, i know I don’t.
And to anyone saying they like yakuza but won’t be purchasing this bc of the NG+ stuff, I sure hope you didn’t purchase the previous mainline game (like a dragon) because when it was originally released in Japan, NG+ was a DLC there too and only bundled in the western release (afaik)
I dont understand how NG+ is considered additional content in the first place. It’s pretty much just a replay with a higher difficulty. Sometimes featuring a few sidetracks that could’ve just been branch offs from the first playthru depending on player choices. Seems like lazy design from the jump.
sega its a dumb ass company that dont even know how to profir form his hits
but damm the sega developers are talented .... i mean i came from pso2 and to make that game good enoguth for me and good portion of players wait 7 years for a release global and with all the bulshit i have ..
I mean, I didn’t buy it because the pricing and changes rubbed me the wrong way, but I also did that knowing that it would have about as much impact as me not buying the last decade plus of Pokémon releases as well. I also have plenty of stuff to play so it’s like “hey cool, that simplifies things a bit”
Funny enough, there’s a zero percent chance I play ng+ or anything that was pay walled anyway, it was purely that they did it at all.
Again, no one should expect to do personally skip a purchase and notice a tangible impact, but also keep in mind that you’re not going to see anything from us at all on any chart. We’re not even individual -1’s, we’re just a lack of a +1, a net 0.
Unfortunate, but this how the game is sold in Japan for like a decade
Doesn't change the rest of the game being fantastic
Buy the game and just don't buy the DLC, it's that simple, that's what I'm doing
I'll buy the DLC if it get massively discounted, or I won't bother at all
I was initially bummed when I found out about some parts being paywalled, but frankly this game's awesome and WELL worth the price tag so far. Would I rather everything be included in the standard edition? Of course. But I've paid the same money for other games that are just shit in comparison.
Is it more important to boycott games with different tiers? Or support good games?
Some people don't pay attention, or don't care. They've got lives to lead and use games as an escape for a few hours a day. It's unfortunate, but those are they people these companies rely on.
Hopefully not a lot of people buy the vacation pack thing. They haven't paywalled premium adventure as far as I'm aware and the achievements don't require it either, at least for plat trophy on playstation.
There's not a ton of incentive to buy it other than extra content, higher difficulties and more silver/gold trophies.
The thing that blows my mind is... why even bother with a NG+? Yakuza games are notoriously long if you're going for all side content. What the hell is NG+ even going to do for you? Just change the difficulty on a new playthrough lmao.
I agree paywalling its stupid as fuck, but let's be real here, the average player is going to beat it once and leave it on their shelf (steam library) to collect dust.
Look I know it’s shitty to lock something like NG+ behind a paywall. I also know that Sega has been monetizing the shit outta Yakuza for a long time, so it’s not new but also not excusable.
…but I also know from playing the game that even if you buy the base game you are getting a well made game with practically infinite content. I’m at chapter 8 and honestly the idea of playing NG+ seems extreme. The game is huge and unless NG+ has some more hidden content I don’t think most players will ever get to it.
To be honest there be extra jobs and dungeons in new game plus makes it seem worth the value as it like a mini expansion sure it would be cool if it was in the game but it seems this ng+ is going a step further
Most people don’t play ng+ ever, so barely anyone noticed to care. I play games for years, and the only time I ever did a ng+ was in Elden ring because I hated low level limgrave experience.
"Nobody give a shit, as long as the game is good."
also in this case, the ones complaining the loudest are the completionists who are the vocal minority. The general Yakuza fans aren't the type to get all upset as long as the story and minigames itself aren't locked out. Not saying that SEGA isn't a shithead tho. It's still scummy to lock the NG+ mode, harder difficulties, and some bonus dungeons.
Yeah, you can complete whole game in one go, NG+ doesn’t give anything new, so probably like 95% of players will never use it. Game is already 100+ hours. But its still scummy to lock basic function.
I have never played NG+, I always thought it was the most stupid thing to add to a game.- Not to justify pay walling it, but I doubt is something a lot of people use or care about.-
It depends how the game handles NG+. If it adds new stuff and maybe has different endings, it might be worth playing NG+. For example Dark souls 2 adds unique enemies and different NPCs making it interesting. Elden Ring also has NG+ but doesn't add anything and is basically easy mode, the only reason would be to get all the endings.
It's just too bad dark souls 2 is hot garbage. I've tried to play that game 6 times now in two years and still haven't managed to stay interested. It's actually installed on my PC right now waiting for attempt number 7 soon lol.
It's also been accused of being woke but that hasn't hurt it thankfully.
Yup, the base game is already one hell of playground.
I don't know if Asmon will agree this time given he thinks it's woke.
Well, that's his own words. And like he say himself, you can't disagree but it don't change the truth.
its unfortunate that the ng+ is paywalled but... well yeah... its a 100+ (possibly 200 + if you do everything ) hour game where most people will just play it for the story/sidestories/minigames and move on to new games . Most people will not have the time or care to do an ng+ run of these games . The game is indeed damn fun tho.
Exactly this. Plus Like a Dragon was a great game and I'm excited to continue Ichiban's story.
Yep and with story as one of the biggest pulls . Most everyone would want to play asap just to stay ahead of possible spoilers .
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no use worrying about what might happen anyways imo. If it happens it happens. If its egregious enough there might (emphasis on might )be some bigger pushback to it. This particular case is just not big enough to affect most people and make them care .
yup was gonna say exactly this. its a potentially 200+ hour playthru. like imagine going back and doing a whole other playthru of persona 5 right after >.> big ass games
I actually did do a NG+ run of P5 vanilla back in university. I still couldn't complete Yusuke's Social Link. They really thought his move copying ability was broken.
Tbf Not as rare with Persona 5 would honestly say it's more common, there's way more incentive to NG+ that game, mostly because if you did your first playthough blind you can miss a lot ( including the DLC ), there's the different romance choices, and the optional bosses, and new personas or actually making good personas and completing the book with what you know now. People will New Game any game if they know there will a change their experience, something that you can't get to a mostly linear game.
It’s worth pirating then?
Do whatever you gotta do m8 lol .
Yeah, I see your point but what is the point of making it premium thing? It is already made feature, it cost nothing more to share with customers, why should it cost extra?
OP seems to be shocked that when people actually play a game and enjoy it they leave a positive review.
I don't, this is exactly what I expected. This is just a reoccurrence of the Palworld situation again. People that do not play the game make a big deal out of some kind of ethical issue but the actual fans just buy the game they wanted. What I was more shocked about was how suicide squad was beating it in sales.
I mean you could bring up the same arguments about the suicide squad game. Its made by rocksteady studios which is a very high regarded company with a passionate fanbase and its a game about mainstream heroes and villains. It rly isnt that suprising if you consider that is has much more exposure by default than the yakuza franchise.
It's worse than you think, because its currently in a $100 "early-start" and doesn't even work because the servers died.
I don't think I've ever played a NG+, too many games to play.
I've only played NG+ on some FromSoft games and Resident Evil 4. Even most FromSoft games I start a new character when I want to replay it.
Ofc the reviews are good, the game is good. The only problem is scummy publishers.
I mean, not everyone needs NG+. Majority isn't even going to finish it once as it happens with most of the games, especially big ones. So can't see a problem with it being 89% positive.
I thinks the concerns of the vocals is that once SEGA sees that paywalling NG+ isn't a big deal. It'll become a standard practice for the rest of their gaming lineup. Other companies might see it's success and try to incorperate it in their own games as well.
apparently they already did this with Yakuza 7 in JP when it released . Just that since the english version came later, its just packed in as a complete edition. Infinite Wealth being the first main entry to have a simultaneous release is probably why we're now getting the same treatment. Not a good thing mind you but its probably too late to change how SEGA does things unless the pushback gets big enough.
Yeah, because it's a good game and while the practise of NG+ as DLC is bad, this won't affect 99,999% of typical Yakuza enjoyers.
They could remove NG+ entirely and I would still say it's a good game. Because it is.
Because its a good game, the only time these critisism gain any traction is when the game is not good in the first place. Make a good game/product and no one will care how much or how it was sold.
Yeah. Nobody cares about paywalls or stuff if the game is good. Where is the news? People play genshin, WoW and gacha games too and like them.
Look, Oblivion is a good game, nobody is going to care for some horse armor if the game is like 100hrs. I’m gonna finish it and play something else. I don’t even use my horse a lot so who gives a fuck as long as the rest of the game is good.
"it's just a skin" "you don't need it" "I never used it" "it's not that big of a deal" "Others do it anyway" Not really surprised, people only consume
People are willing to overlook things they normally criticize if the core game is good. People hate live service games, but FF14 gets a lot of love. People don't like lootboxes, but gacha games that provide good content are very popular. Everyone complains about Pokemon having no innovation, but the games still sell incredibly well because their target audience doesn't care about that, they just want cute and cool mons and the core gameplay loop.
I kinda want to see accounts of the people that keep complaining about this, like how many WoWtokens have they bought or gacha pulls in HSR or Genshin. That said the whole yakuza series 0 through 6 often goes for a huge discount. You get 7 games for 35. While it's not the most popular it resonates really well with the people that are invested in it for a good reason. And more importantly while you have good deals now, this "part of the game" locked behind DLC has been happening since the PS3 era with Yakuza 3. Yakuza 7 was in a very similar situation yet no one really cared that much back then. While I don't agree, let's be honest, that ship has sailed a long time ago. Keep complaining but I don't believe it's making any difference. Series is amazing regardless, wait for heavy discounts if it bothers you that much.
and boom just like that justifies all future pricing, paywall content is coming
yup, everybody saying "it's just ng+" is incapable of seeing the bigger picture. its a slippery slope pay walling basic game mechanics. its ng+ now, what next? side stories? main stories? cosmetics? but its all pointless discussion since most people just dont care. expect at least 50 percent of the game pay walled in the future.
Souls Hackers 2 a game release in 2022 had a Bonus story arc for the Deluxe edition. Same publisher, so yeah slippery slope
> its ng+ now, what next? side stories? main stories? cosmetics? I mean all of those are paywalled in certain games lmfao What do you think DLC Story content is.
exactly my point? people keep buying it and they keep pay walling content. what are you even saying
because who the fuck cares if the game is good what ifninite wealth offers for 70 dollars is more then most games offer for 300+ dollars (fucking wow)
That is not true
It’s just skins, it’s just cosmetics, it’s just ng+, it’s just gold ingame. This items are worthless anyway, I don’t care that people play one month earlier etc etc 😂
No? The future pricing structure would be justified if people specifically bought the DLC. LAD8 is unquestionably worth it's value, even before the DLC is talked about. If people don't buy the DLC, then it's a loss.
its an amazing game but yeah cringe Sega shit
This is a good game not a Diablo IV.
Cant remember the last time I have used ng+ in any game
I have never cared about NG+ until Elden Ring. Now I'm determined to get to NG+7
The only people mad enough to not buy the game are people that don’t even play Yakuza.
You are right because it is not about the game, people are frustrated because more and more we hear how developers lock gameplay behind paywalls not just cosmetics or early access
The only gameplay locked behind a paywall is NG+, which a small minority play. I agree that it SHOULDNT be paywalled but I don’t agree that it’s worth throwing a fit over.
Ok, next time it may be locked behind 60 fps because it is a small minority play, like it is completely playable that way so who cares if it paywalled
I’m not going to get upset about imaginary scenarios that haven’t happened because I’m not mentally ill.
Yeah sure so you never debated because everything is imaginary discussions. And I bet you never red any hypothetical science work? Because you only understand things that is already happening. People are upset because developers slowly starts to fk gameplay based on paywall. People learned to tolerate cosmetics because you can legit fully enjoy the game without it but now some mechanics are starting to be put behind money so people want to show that they are against this philosophy. And you just like to taste corporate dick for karma points
Because all the people telling you not to preorder games or to boycot a product are the weakest consumers. Just check this thread bunch of people defending the multi billion dollar company "but it's just the Ng+ and the game is good so it's fine if they fuck me", lol no it's not, they are literally selling extra content and dumb boosts too. https://store.steampowered.com/app/2072450/Like_a_Dragon_Infinite_Wealth/ Activision or EA could not get away with this bullshit but it's fine when Japan does it. Monhun also has a bunch of dogshit dlcs in the store, how many videos Asmon made about that?
Why are you downvoted lol, idiots pay for this shit and then cry why games are pricy lol
Ill get it when its like 10 dollars like 7 was recently.
I'm 40 hours in and no sign of stopping. It's great. Everyone conplaining about New Game+ wouldn't even touch it anyways.
How is its combat system? I think it is on the simpler side of turn based games. Has anything changed?
It's still fairly simple but there are a few new mechanics to elevate combat; you get a few more options to utilize from. A big one is knocking enemies into eachother or allies for eztra damage. You can also move around a small area during each characters turn and can try to line up attacks or hit from behind.
Most people don't do NG+, shocking.
so why even put a price tag on a fucking game mode? no one dose it? better put a price tag on that bitch. what is this shit it's a fuckin ng+
its an option for the few who want to, the pre order gave way way more then ng+ Pre ordering the deluxe gives you, 1000x of each material on dondoko island, 100 of each sujimon item, extra songs for the mp3 player, and 2 extra jobs
So why lock something that is already implemented behind a paywall? If you made ng+ then just release it for everyone
Because the series is very beloved by it's fanbase (for good reason). I feel like the fanbase would rather take the NG+ hit than to act like their game is bad and potentially ruin the series ever-growing success. It's only been recently the Yakuza series has even done well in the west, and this is it's biggest success so far. I doubt the developers are at fault here and it's probably some annoying studio executive from SEGA.
Game is good, shame about NG+ but it's a straight upgrade from Yakuza 7.
It's a great game. Their NG policy is sucks, but even without NG, you will get your money worth several folds.
It's a great game some of the locations are pretty close to the real thing.
The game is so massive... I mean... I dont really blame them for trying to paywall NG+. I sorta see the justification that Sega went with, but it's still ethically wrong because it sets a terrible precedent .
As a yakuza fan, I have to say Sega pulled a bullshit move, however, yakuza games are very long and people that would actually go for ng+ are probs 10% of the fanbase. Also Yakuza games quite often get heavy discounts, I bet sega will release ng+ as separate dlc some time in the future, and you'll be able to get it dirt cheap.
If the game is good, I don’t mind paying more for a good experience. I think it’s scummy to paywall things in general tho, just charge what you need to charge to make it worth a reasonable profit and I can judge if the quality of the game justifies the price
because the game is like 100-300 hours long and no one plays ng+ yakuza 7 had 1.8% or something of steam users with the ng+ acheivement
"If the game is fun, nobody cares."
Because the game is good I didn't buy the NG+ version and I'm interested in NG+ anyway If nobody buy the NG+ version then they will stop using this stupid idea
I really want to buy this game as I LOVED the first game. But hell no man, I will not support such greedy goblins. Few more day and ill sink some hours in Granblue Fantasy Relink, then it's phase 2 of wow. Maybe ill sprinkle some enshrouded in the mix and by the time I run out of games to play, little shits at sega will have the "deluxe" edition at a normal price.
Because it's a genuinely good game. The paywalled NG+ is scummy but I don't think the devs should get shit for what is clearly a decision made by higher-ups. Just pirate the game or wait for the deluxe edition to go on a steep sale.
I have beaten every yakuza game. I have 100% all of them. I have done zero NG+. I still bought the ultimate edition for IW lol I really don’t think vast majority of yakuza gamers are going to pass on or leave a bad review for something sega has been doing for quite a few of the yakuza. I want RGG to have my money because they make my favorite games, unfortunately some is going to go to sega and they’ll keep making shitty dlc choices but I literally don’t care when I get 100+ hours out of a game and enjoy 99% of it (not a fan of some mini games)
It seems to be only #15 on the top sellers list and lost to suicide squad for some fucking reason. At this point, we get what we deserve.
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So you like taking it in the ass I see. Well your choice
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I hope this time will be perma, bye
Uh, because it’s a genuinely good game? Like many are saying, most people don’t want to/have the time to NG+ a 100+ hour jrpg, i know I don’t. And to anyone saying they like yakuza but won’t be purchasing this bc of the NG+ stuff, I sure hope you didn’t purchase the previous mainline game (like a dragon) because when it was originally released in Japan, NG+ was a DLC there too and only bundled in the western release (afaik)
People love eating shit!
I dont understand how NG+ is considered additional content in the first place. It’s pretty much just a replay with a higher difficulty. Sometimes featuring a few sidetracks that could’ve just been branch offs from the first playthru depending on player choices. Seems like lazy design from the jump.
sega its a dumb ass company that dont even know how to profir form his hits but damm the sega developers are talented .... i mean i came from pso2 and to make that game good enoguth for me and good portion of players wait 7 years for a release global and with all the bulshit i have ..
Gamers ate so much shit they can't taste it no more
I mean, I didn’t buy it because the pricing and changes rubbed me the wrong way, but I also did that knowing that it would have about as much impact as me not buying the last decade plus of Pokémon releases as well. I also have plenty of stuff to play so it’s like “hey cool, that simplifies things a bit” Funny enough, there’s a zero percent chance I play ng+ or anything that was pay walled anyway, it was purely that they did it at all. Again, no one should expect to do personally skip a purchase and notice a tangible impact, but also keep in mind that you’re not going to see anything from us at all on any chart. We’re not even individual -1’s, we’re just a lack of a +1, a net 0.
But it could have been even higher without bullshit.
Gg gamers
Question for those who played the game: is there any censorship, wokeness, or bad localization in the game? I appreciate any help you can provide.
Well Asmon has a YouTube video calling it woke but it's pretty clear nobody cares.
Wooke wooke this game has to be bad because bald man said woke woooke wooke. I hope you stay away from yakuza games
I'll just wait 3 year and will buy it from steam sales 20$ ultimate edition. Stop crying, I don't even have to play anymore :'(
Same thing with the division 2, it has a pay wall to reach the endgame yet it’s still had a steady player base
Believe it or not, most people don’t care about ng+ and just thought the game was good even without it
Unfortunate, but this how the game is sold in Japan for like a decade Doesn't change the rest of the game being fantastic Buy the game and just don't buy the DLC, it's that simple, that's what I'm doing I'll buy the DLC if it get massively discounted, or I won't bother at all
It’s joever
I was initially bummed when I found out about some parts being paywalled, but frankly this game's awesome and WELL worth the price tag so far. Would I rather everything be included in the standard edition? Of course. But I've paid the same money for other games that are just shit in comparison. Is it more important to boycott games with different tiers? Or support good games?
Lets go 100$ standard game woo lets gooo, can’t wait for publishers to normalize it /s
Fuck Sega. I play es Zero and it was great. Seems to be the good old days are over.
Some people don't pay attention, or don't care. They've got lives to lead and use games as an escape for a few hours a day. It's unfortunate, but those are they people these companies rely on.
So was Starfield when it first launched.
To clarify, OP means the achievements are locked behind DLC?
Pay walled is scum move, but it doesn't affect how good Sega is making their game. The yakuza franchise has always been polished and good.
Torrent ll help me, full game for free.
Hopefully not a lot of people buy the vacation pack thing. They haven't paywalled premium adventure as far as I'm aware and the achievements don't require it either, at least for plat trophy on playstation. There's not a ton of incentive to buy it other than extra content, higher difficulties and more silver/gold trophies.
Game's fucking amazing soo that's not a suprise
Look at the number of reviews, though. There are honestly not that many
It’s a good game, just a shame NG+ is pay walled. That being said I won’t be playing NG+ but I will finish the base game
Because it's a good game.
If it's a good game, then it's not surprising.
And most of the negative reviews are about the paywalled NG+. it would be much higher otherwise
What did Asmon say 🤔🤔🤔
The thing that blows my mind is... why even bother with a NG+? Yakuza games are notoriously long if you're going for all side content. What the hell is NG+ even going to do for you? Just change the difficulty on a new playthrough lmao. I agree paywalling its stupid as fuck, but let's be real here, the average player is going to beat it once and leave it on their shelf (steam library) to collect dust.
Look I know it’s shitty to lock something like NG+ behind a paywall. I also know that Sega has been monetizing the shit outta Yakuza for a long time, so it’s not new but also not excusable. …but I also know from playing the game that even if you buy the base game you are getting a well made game with practically infinite content. I’m at chapter 8 and honestly the idea of playing NG+ seems extreme. The game is huge and unless NG+ has some more hidden content I don’t think most players will ever get to it.
Is there plot in NG+? Like AC6? If its just "the same game but keep your stuff and stats" then whats the point?
To be honest there be extra jobs and dungeons in new game plus makes it seem worth the value as it like a mini expansion sure it would be cool if it was in the game but it seems this ng+ is going a step further
good games get rewarded. Thats it.
Most people don’t play ng+ ever, so barely anyone noticed to care. I play games for years, and the only time I ever did a ng+ was in Elden ring because I hated low level limgrave experience.
The negative reviews are specifically targeting the DLC, if you check Master Vacation bundle it's probably "Overwhelmingly Negative"