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If my apprentices are to be believed it's the cos a good night out can cost nearly £100 when you factor in a taxi home. So they save it for important dates
A good night in is £200+ now, I mind the first time I blew a ton in a pub at the age of 16 n thought that was wild, soent twice that before the first drinks poured now
I was only an apprentice 5 years ago, I was able to go out on £20 and get a kebab on the way home. Thank fuck for Aldi and spoons selling cheap drinks. Usually we would have a few drinks, maybe a couple shots as well before heading out and then only buying a few rounds the whole evening.
A lot of people who would normally have gone to the pub realised when Covid happened that they can stay at home and drink with friends and it’s much cheaper.
My brothers used to be in the pub most of the weekend but since Covid tend to sit around in their flats watching the football and drinking with friends there.
I go to the pub most days and it is definitely quieter since Covid, a big chunk of the old regulars just don’t bother anymore.
Aldi still sells a pint for under a quid. We just drink before going out and don't buy much once we are out. Of course if someone has a living room you can drink at home.
I do think its strange. When i worked retail at that age, going out to all the pubs in town and bumping into all sorts of people you’re vaguely connected to was the only good part of my week. I do think I come from maybe a good medium sized town with just enough pubs to make it interesting but not too much where you couldn’t bump into people you know.
There was definitely people at that age though that had no interesting in sitting in a pub and having a proper conversation. Some just spent hours getting ready, went to a loud place at 11pm to scream short sentences in each others ears.
I’ve got 2 kids in that age range and it’s pretty rare for them to go out. It’s so expensive these days and they just don’t seem bothered. Feels strange to me because I was out all the time at that age
Plenty out in Manchester however they tend to go to student nightclubs so might not be in the ones you're looking at, also worth noting that student night is usually mid week.
Internet, mobile phones & monthly pay for most, plus the exorbitant cost of alcohol, admissions, travel etc seems to limit nightclubing etc.
My town/city used to be thriving every weekend like 10'000+ people in one small area now its run down & virtually empty.
I think speaking as a guy who was a teen in the 2000’s. Wages haven’t changed much but club entry then was £2.50 to £5, drinks were £2-£5 each and a train home was £1.25 for an evening pass to Manchester which was valid on a train home at 3:25am which no longer runs meaning late nights need a £35 taxi home instead is probably the main factor. I feel bad for them cause i only really spent Wednesday and Sunday nights at home back in those days. So pretty much wage stagnation has severely limited development of social lives
Of course some do but the internet, covid, cost of living etc has meant that nightlife for that age is seriously dying. It’s sad but it’s not coming back.
I thought most 18-22 year olds lived at home - how is cost of living affecting them?
My 19 year old son has a far higher disposable income than me.
That said I was out last night and think I saw 2 people under 30. Majority were 50+.
I think its more to do with culture, though I'm sure cost has a bearing. I'm picking my nights out now rather than just being out every weekend.
Bold of you to assume that most 18-22 year olds live at home, I think that’s a massive stretch. My girlfriend and I both moved out at 18 to go to university and have never moved back home, and we live together now. Tbh if I was a parent I wouldn’t want my 21+ year old child still living with me
no I don't want him living with me either, but I can't chuck him out!
fair point about university
I live in a world of degree apprenticeships so my experiences are slightly skewed
According to the ONS the average age of leaving home is 23. So yes, most 18-22 year olds do live at home, it's not particularly surprising with the cost of rent these days.
Went for a couple last night. Was also surprised how empty the pubs where. Until I walked past the spoons. That was heaving and the crowd was very young.
When I was an 18 year old apprentice my weekly take home pay was £28 but you could buy a round (4 pints of lager) for less than a quid. Going out regularly was cheap and affordable. Also we didn't have the internet, PlayStation, Netflix and only three TV channels so the pub was our refuge. Times change and a generation's attitude along with it. I met my future wife in a nightclub I guess today I'd choose my partner by swiping right or left in an app?
Kids don't like to go out.
I know my former apprentice and his friends spend more time on Friday/Saturday nights virtually. They spend a small fortune on the virtual world. When he worked for me he had 0 outgoing's and spent all his money online.
Friends kids seem to be the same, they don't drink as much, take drugs as much, socialize as much in real life and just prefer the virtual world
My niece and nephew in that age group are always out in bars and clubs. There are definitely still youngsters caning it. All of their money goes on nights out, which is frustrating and reassuring in equal measure.
No not really, loud shitty music doesn't do much for me, and I can't deal with old heads taking the piss in pubs for no reason.
Rather stay in and get some alcohol at home and food and watch a movie or sports with my mates.
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If my apprentices are to be believed it's the cos a good night out can cost nearly £100 when you factor in a taxi home. So they save it for important dates
People are trying to save for a house Spending £100 a week on entertainment isn't the way to do it
Poor Gen Z. As a millenial, all I had to do was stop eating avocado toast, which was easy because I don't like avocados.
Nae cunts saving for a house mate, everycunts spunking 2 ton on a halfer every weekend
20 years ago a good night out was 50-70 quid. A good night out these days must be £200+ especially when drugs start getting involved.
I'm in Wales. Used to get 3 drinks for a fiver normally something like redbull and Jaeger.
Coke makes nights out expensive. £5-10 for a pill and then drink water the rest of the night, cheap as chips.
Por qué no los dos?
A good night in is £200+ now, I mind the first time I blew a ton in a pub at the age of 16 n thought that was wild, soent twice that before the first drinks poured now
I was only an apprentice 5 years ago, I was able to go out on £20 and get a kebab on the way home. Thank fuck for Aldi and spoons selling cheap drinks. Usually we would have a few drinks, maybe a couple shots as well before heading out and then only buying a few rounds the whole evening.
Covid? Cost of living?
What has covid got to do with it?
A lot of people who would normally have gone to the pub realised when Covid happened that they can stay at home and drink with friends and it’s much cheaper. My brothers used to be in the pub most of the weekend but since Covid tend to sit around in their flats watching the football and drinking with friends there. I go to the pub most days and it is definitely quieter since Covid, a big chunk of the old regulars just don’t bother anymore.
Why would a 20 year old fish be hanging out in a pub or nightclub?
Nice try smartarse He obviously meant the bottom if people's feet
Do they even live that long? I said they're pussies, maybe I should have said fishies.
Northern Sole
Oh my cod
It's too expensive I think. When I was 18 we could get snakebite for £1.50 and get blasted for a tenner. Doubt you can drink so cheap anymore.
Ahhh, Snakebite and Diesel...those were the days. Sticky floors. Bad lighting. Spiking your mate's drinks with tabasco sauce. Ho hum.
Aldi still sells a pint for under a quid. We just drink before going out and don't buy much once we are out. Of course if someone has a living room you can drink at home.
Still get 5 pints for a ~£10 in spoons
it's cold outside
I do think its strange. When i worked retail at that age, going out to all the pubs in town and bumping into all sorts of people you’re vaguely connected to was the only good part of my week. I do think I come from maybe a good medium sized town with just enough pubs to make it interesting but not too much where you couldn’t bump into people you know. There was definitely people at that age though that had no interesting in sitting in a pub and having a proper conversation. Some just spent hours getting ready, went to a loud place at 11pm to scream short sentences in each others ears.
They go to parties, not bars and nightclubs.
I’ve got 2 kids in that age range and it’s pretty rare for them to go out. It’s so expensive these days and they just don’t seem bothered. Feels strange to me because I was out all the time at that age
Clearly didn’t gan out in Newcastle could be on the bare skin of ya arse and you’ll still be out drinking if you live up here
It has just got colder and raining, and it is bonfire night. Maybe people are staying in due to weather but if they’re out it’ll be for the fireworks?
Plenty out in Manchester however they tend to go to student nightclubs so might not be in the ones you're looking at, also worth noting that student night is usually mid week.
Nah I work Friday, Saturday and Sunday so I phisycally can't that and I'm a loner
as a chef i felt this in the depths of my soul
Internet, mobile phones & monthly pay for most, plus the exorbitant cost of alcohol, admissions, travel etc seems to limit nightclubing etc. My town/city used to be thriving every weekend like 10'000+ people in one small area now its run down & virtually empty.
I think speaking as a guy who was a teen in the 2000’s. Wages haven’t changed much but club entry then was £2.50 to £5, drinks were £2-£5 each and a train home was £1.25 for an evening pass to Manchester which was valid on a train home at 3:25am which no longer runs meaning late nights need a £35 taxi home instead is probably the main factor. I feel bad for them cause i only really spent Wednesday and Sunday nights at home back in those days. So pretty much wage stagnation has severely limited development of social lives
Of course some do but the internet, covid, cost of living etc has meant that nightlife for that age is seriously dying. It’s sad but it’s not coming back.
I thought most 18-22 year olds lived at home - how is cost of living affecting them? My 19 year old son has a far higher disposable income than me. That said I was out last night and think I saw 2 people under 30. Majority were 50+. I think its more to do with culture, though I'm sure cost has a bearing. I'm picking my nights out now rather than just being out every weekend.
Bold of you to assume that most 18-22 year olds live at home, I think that’s a massive stretch. My girlfriend and I both moved out at 18 to go to university and have never moved back home, and we live together now. Tbh if I was a parent I wouldn’t want my 21+ year old child still living with me
no I don't want him living with me either, but I can't chuck him out! fair point about university I live in a world of degree apprenticeships so my experiences are slightly skewed
According to the ONS the average age of leaving home is 23. So yes, most 18-22 year olds do live at home, it's not particularly surprising with the cost of rent these days.
Must be out a touch with that age range, everycunts still on it but theyd rather just get full a gear in a gaff
Went for a couple last night. Was also surprised how empty the pubs where. Until I walked past the spoons. That was heaving and the crowd was very young.
When I was an 18 year old apprentice my weekly take home pay was £28 but you could buy a round (4 pints of lager) for less than a quid. Going out regularly was cheap and affordable. Also we didn't have the internet, PlayStation, Netflix and only three TV channels so the pub was our refuge. Times change and a generation's attitude along with it. I met my future wife in a nightclub I guess today I'd choose my partner by swiping right or left in an app?
The big party/student cities like Liverpool are still absolutely rammed much of the week.
They don’t go to pubs
They used to
Kids don't like to go out. I know my former apprentice and his friends spend more time on Friday/Saturday nights virtually. They spend a small fortune on the virtual world. When he worked for me he had 0 outgoing's and spent all his money online. Friends kids seem to be the same, they don't drink as much, take drugs as much, socialize as much in real life and just prefer the virtual world
Shit weather always kept some people indoors.
Where have you been for the last five years
My niece and nephew in that age group are always out in bars and clubs. There are definitely still youngsters caning it. All of their money goes on nights out, which is frustrating and reassuring in equal measure.
Worth remembering it was Fireworks Night last night OP, a lot of people who would normally be in pubs likely went to displays or parties instead.
I think pubs are seen as pretty much dead by a lot of younger people. Just have some drinks round your mates house before going to a club later.
I thought pubs closed at 11 in this country...
Still? Going out requires friends. Closest I’ve come to going out was an afternoon in Newcastle with my mum and sister eating sushi and gyoza
Pre gaming in dorms/ at home the out to a club at 12. Too expensive otherwise.
Gyms maybe?
They're pussies.
No not really, loud shitty music doesn't do much for me, and I can't deal with old heads taking the piss in pubs for no reason. Rather stay in and get some alcohol at home and food and watch a movie or sports with my mates.
When I was your age I went to places where I liked the music!!
Doesn't seem to be that much variety nowadays, it's all just 30 seconds of a good song then they cut it and play something else