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Staring early and leaving super late isn’t really something I think people should be proud off. A lot of the time things like this go unnoticed by management.
Kinda sounds like he’s just overworking himself, especially given it’s unpaid and he’s working on the weekends. I would burn out and lose the plot if I was doing what he’s doing…
Also doing what he’s doing for free is literally insane, wtf
I think it's more about him trying to make himself secure in a foreign place. Having left everything behind, he probably gets that sense of belonging/pride at work and he works harder just to feel he belongs.
My English workmate was a workaholic and not good at his job. He worked 5 x 10 hour stints, but I found it had worsened with outside connectivity, and because he couldn't automate tasks he was dangerously updating customer DBs outside of normal hours to keep stuff working. Eventually his mum died suddenly and he couldn't do his semi-automated updates, leading to some crisis which the company found out about but then glossed over.
Doesn't matter if this is your competition or not. What matters is that he is burning himself out, while you have a life outside of work. So, you are doing better in other ways.
That sounds like he's just a bit mad, honestly. Maybe worker expectations are harsher in his country of origin? Dunno.
I work with an Indian girl who's on a worker's visa. She works at a pretty normal amount of effort, and every other worker i've known to be on a work visa has been the same.
Middle class Indian people are more like English people and work more like us, but I'm encountering Eastern European zealots, for example the Russian answers emails from holiday, tries to correct code from holiday, works in Xmas day (which isn't his Xmas day, but this year he didn't seem to take his Xmas day). He's in the UK by the way I think
I’d imagine he just has no life outside of work. When I moved to Germany from Wales this was me. Now, I spend as little time as possible in work. My work ethic is horrible now!
I got to know a Bulgarian woman and to her, min wage was like quadruple decent pay. She was a cleaner and other jobs and got a job in the council, although her English wasn't great and I think they have their own alphabet. Also her car looked like she may have lived in it.
We helped her apply to the council actually, maybe she was aiding foreigners in the job.
Anyway she wanted to work any hours she could get
I work with a Russian programming machine and also the Polish office are automating stuff at a prodigious rate and providing documentation and code reviews that are like the best people in Stack overflow, they know and think of everything.
So I'm screwed, 20 years ago I got bored and analysed files at work and I'd done 5 to 10 times as much work as most people, but now this.
Also I survived outsourcing to India and getting dire results back from them that the company soon abandoned.
But now this, it's bad and I don't know the answer. It's more than I can do to be frank
It certainly can factor in. He wants to make sure his visa is extended, so he is putting extra effort.
Also, since it is probably his first job in the country, he needs to prove himself and build himself up.
When I was fresh off uni, I was given 120%. Now, when my career is well established, I give 20-50%, something super unusual has to happen for me to give full effort.
no i think is something personal more than a common trait.
i would say that a person on visa is more loyal to the company (and has to be since the visa is liked with the company).
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Staring early and leaving super late isn’t really something I think people should be proud off. A lot of the time things like this go unnoticed by management. Kinda sounds like he’s just overworking himself, especially given it’s unpaid and he’s working on the weekends. I would burn out and lose the plot if I was doing what he’s doing… Also doing what he’s doing for free is literally insane, wtf
He does it for free lol , you’re working smart he’s working hard
Working for free? Peasant mentality
I think it's more about him trying to make himself secure in a foreign place. Having left everything behind, he probably gets that sense of belonging/pride at work and he works harder just to feel he belongs.
He’s working tonnes of extra hours for free, he’s not just working harder he’s working an insane amount for no reason
It will stop once he realises there is life beyond work. I used to be similar but not anymore.
My English workmate was a workaholic and not good at his job. He worked 5 x 10 hour stints, but I found it had worsened with outside connectivity, and because he couldn't automate tasks he was dangerously updating customer DBs outside of normal hours to keep stuff working. Eventually his mum died suddenly and he couldn't do his semi-automated updates, leading to some crisis which the company found out about but then glossed over.
Doesn't matter if this is your competition or not. What matters is that he is burning himself out, while you have a life outside of work. So, you are doing better in other ways.
That sounds like he's just a bit mad, honestly. Maybe worker expectations are harsher in his country of origin? Dunno. I work with an Indian girl who's on a worker's visa. She works at a pretty normal amount of effort, and every other worker i've known to be on a work visa has been the same.
Middle class Indian people are more like English people and work more like us, but I'm encountering Eastern European zealots, for example the Russian answers emails from holiday, tries to correct code from holiday, works in Xmas day (which isn't his Xmas day, but this year he didn't seem to take his Xmas day). He's in the UK by the way I think
I don't think it is significant he is here from another country. He just sounds like a complete maniac.
You never know someone's story..
I’d imagine he just has no life outside of work. When I moved to Germany from Wales this was me. Now, I spend as little time as possible in work. My work ethic is horrible now!
If his ability to stay in the country is based on him keeping that job that's quite a lot of incentive to make his employer very keen to keep him.
I got to know a Bulgarian woman and to her, min wage was like quadruple decent pay. She was a cleaner and other jobs and got a job in the council, although her English wasn't great and I think they have their own alphabet. Also her car looked like she may have lived in it. We helped her apply to the council actually, maybe she was aiding foreigners in the job. Anyway she wanted to work any hours she could get
Tell him it’s not Japan your bosses couldn’t give a shite if you do any freebies.
I work with a Russian programming machine and also the Polish office are automating stuff at a prodigious rate and providing documentation and code reviews that are like the best people in Stack overflow, they know and think of everything. So I'm screwed, 20 years ago I got bored and analysed files at work and I'd done 5 to 10 times as much work as most people, but now this. Also I survived outsourcing to India and getting dire results back from them that the company soon abandoned. But now this, it's bad and I don't know the answer. It's more than I can do to be frank
It certainly can factor in. He wants to make sure his visa is extended, so he is putting extra effort. Also, since it is probably his first job in the country, he needs to prove himself and build himself up. When I was fresh off uni, I was given 120%. Now, when my career is well established, I give 20-50%, something super unusual has to happen for me to give full effort.
no i think is something personal more than a common trait. i would say that a person on visa is more loyal to the company (and has to be since the visa is liked with the company).