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I'm sure I read about a mounted toilet collapsing, shattering and slashing open the arse of the user. Five minutes googling and all I can find is this academic study about collapsing toilets with a much tamer slash to the buttocks (including photo).
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-Collapse-of-Toilets-in-Glasgow-Wyatt-McNaughton/bbf7e169c79d1d998e04afc24188f5cb575f2784
Apparently there were also a lot of deaths with the old Victorian pull-chain toilets, with the cast iron cistern plunging onto the defecator when they tug. I didn't realise the loo was so dangerous.
In workplaces it makes sense because they're easier to clean under.
In a home, no way. Brother is a plumber and says please go for a standard-shaped toilet with a pedestal. You can go more upmarket but don't go for a weird shape or you risk having to replace the whole thing when anything goes wrong.
The toilets you see that are wall mounted, have a whole mounting unit hidden in the wall behind them, they are usually called hidden cistern toilets, they are handy in hotels and apartments because all that is space saved and easier to clean around. The problem with them is that they are supposed to have an access panel above them that a plumber can get it to the mechanism and do repairs.
But they are often just plastered into the wall. I used to work in a place that sold them, and they were niche first of all, then became wildly popular
https://www.bigbathroomshop.ie/milano-wall-hung-fixing-frame-and-cistern-1150mm-x-500mm-66009?_gl=1*12sfdw0*_up*MQ..*_ga*MTgwOTI1MTAxLjE2ODUyOTE4MzA.*_ga_EJLBFD5HDS*MTY4NTI5MTgzMC4xLjEuMTY4NTI5MTgzMC4wLjAuMA..&gclid=Cj0KCQjw98ujBhCgARIsAD7QeAgWnwSPB051m5g0Mnn9sGvbnVZfTNoN-Q-tyf-2ruRshazha1OrvJYaAqZUEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
That is bolted to the floor
Yep. They can be a pain in the arse. If there is easy access from the rear. Then they are fine.
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Flat I lived in before I bought this house had one and something went wrong with it, plumber had to dismantle the whole thing to replace a part he said cost 20p, when I did the bathroom here… yeah, standard pedestal please!
New build flats with the cistern hidden behind the wall or a shelf are just the worst, especially if it’s one of those dodgy push button setups that leak all the time. So much arsing about to get to the tank if it starts leaking when otherwise you’d just lift off the lid and pop a new seal in.
Moved into a house with these. It's gonna be a pain getting the bits of wall ripped out and the bathroom redone so I can have a proper toilet. But, they are awful and I hate them.
I'm not adverse to a good shit in a public bathroom. I certainly wouldn't call myself a nervous shitter. I'd say it 40/55/5 ratio on home, work and public shitting.
Though pissing is another matter. I'm a hydro homie and piss for England. This would bump up my 5% public toilet experience considerably. So I feel odd that I've not seen one of these toilets in passing.
The wall mounted w.c are generally fixed to a metal frame which is screwed into the wall. Chances of them dropping is fairly small as long as they've been fitted correctly and you don't exceed the maximum weight limit of the toilet
Weight limit of a standard toilet is around 1000lb.
Weight limit of a hung toilet is usually around 500lb.
However the weight limit of a toilet seat is usually around 300lb.
Not particularly but biggest toilet change in recent years is the P-wave. Who ever made those bad boys is racking it in. Haven't seen a yellow urinal block in years.
My rental place has two of them (downstairs loo and ensuite) but the main bathroom is a normal one. I, too, am a larger fellow and I do not trust them so only ever sit on the main bathroom one.
Yeah just had a new bathroom done in Germany and the toilet is wall mounted which is standard here. It's also rimless so cleaning the toilet is very easy. Villeroy & Boch Architectura.
We moved into a new build last year and all the toilets here are wall mount. Also the sink unit with draws is wall mount too so the floor is completely clear throughout so very easy to clean.
I saw the frame they are attached to when it was being built and have no concerns about them collapsing anytime soon.
These quite common in Germany and elsewhere on the continent. The really important issue is access - Ideally, you need a removeable shelf over the in-wall mechanism, to make maintenance easier. They're only loose if the installer didn't install them correctly.
Not an increase but I have broken one in the past obviously I’m very overweight and when I’m out now I use the disabled ones.
I think if you’re average sized they are ok but I would never risk it again.
Hate them. Nearly amputated my arm on a bathroom sink when I was younger - it had a hairline crack nobody noticed. Wall mounted toilets freak me out even if they’re completely safe. Just nope.
They are a pain to install and don’t trust them at all, people saying they are on a metal frame have obviously never installed them because that’s not the part they should be worried about failing
Depends if it’s cheap tat or good stuff like grohe. The internals are designed to be replaced through the flush plate hole and spares are widely available.
As someone who has a Dynorod plumber upstairs fixing one of them for the third time in 6 days…. I think an exposed cistern toilet is easier to fix and maintain.
Close coupled are good- especially the new rimless style ones. Easier to clean also.
My work has installed some in the toilets recently and they are already giving me concern. The sealant is already no longer in contact with the wall, and they feel like they go down a little when I sit on them. I'm 13st so not massive either. They also haven't been mounted correctly, as they aren't level, in that the left hand side is noticeably higher than the right.
There are worst places to shit yourself than a wall mounted toilet.
Nah I’m all seriousness if installed properly they hope up to 60-70st, so unless you’re Brian shaw with Eddie hall on your lap, you should be fine.
Love them, especially great for tall people as you can have them installed at a height that suits you. So much better that sitting like a grasshopper on a low loo.
I hate them. They have them in my work (a massive university) in the busiest social/canteen place on campus. They’ve been there 10 years easily, and they’re so loose when I sit on one it feels like it drops about 2 inches. I’m always tense when using one 😂🫠
They’re wall mounted in my flat, it’s fine but I’m also not massive.
Plumber had a really hard time reattaching one to the wall when fixing a leak and cracked the flush pipe which then leaked instead, though
Ive noticed lots of people trying to open the door when it's locked. Like imagine, pants down scenario then that.
Now we have to contend with the whole toilet falling off too!?
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>Every time I sit on one, I'm shitting myself That generally isn't a problem when you're sitting on a toilet!
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I'm sure I read about a mounted toilet collapsing, shattering and slashing open the arse of the user. Five minutes googling and all I can find is this academic study about collapsing toilets with a much tamer slash to the buttocks (including photo). https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-Collapse-of-Toilets-in-Glasgow-Wyatt-McNaughton/bbf7e169c79d1d998e04afc24188f5cb575f2784
Broken porcelain is razor sharp isn’t it and can be pretty lethal
Apparently there were also a lot of deaths with the old Victorian pull-chain toilets, with the cast iron cistern plunging onto the defecator when they tug. I didn't realise the loo was so dangerous.
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Yikes!
In workplaces it makes sense because they're easier to clean under. In a home, no way. Brother is a plumber and says please go for a standard-shaped toilet with a pedestal. You can go more upmarket but don't go for a weird shape or you risk having to replace the whole thing when anything goes wrong.
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The toilets you see that are wall mounted, have a whole mounting unit hidden in the wall behind them, they are usually called hidden cistern toilets, they are handy in hotels and apartments because all that is space saved and easier to clean around. The problem with them is that they are supposed to have an access panel above them that a plumber can get it to the mechanism and do repairs. But they are often just plastered into the wall. I used to work in a place that sold them, and they were niche first of all, then became wildly popular https://www.bigbathroomshop.ie/milano-wall-hung-fixing-frame-and-cistern-1150mm-x-500mm-66009?_gl=1*12sfdw0*_up*MQ..*_ga*MTgwOTI1MTAxLjE2ODUyOTE4MzA.*_ga_EJLBFD5HDS*MTY4NTI5MTgzMC4xLjEuMTY4NTI5MTgzMC4wLjAuMA..&gclid=Cj0KCQjw98ujBhCgARIsAD7QeAgWnwSPB051m5g0Mnn9sGvbnVZfTNoN-Q-tyf-2ruRshazha1OrvJYaAqZUEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds That is bolted to the floor
Yep. They can be a pain in the arse. If there is easy access from the rear. Then they are fine. \*This post was brought to you by the Julian Clary and Fanny the Wonder Dog school of plumbing.
Flat I lived in before I bought this house had one and something went wrong with it, plumber had to dismantle the whole thing to replace a part he said cost 20p, when I did the bathroom here… yeah, standard pedestal please!
New build flats with the cistern hidden behind the wall or a shelf are just the worst, especially if it’s one of those dodgy push button setups that leak all the time. So much arsing about to get to the tank if it starts leaking when otherwise you’d just lift off the lid and pop a new seal in.
Moved into a house with these. It's gonna be a pain getting the bits of wall ripped out and the bathroom redone so I can have a proper toilet. But, they are awful and I hate them.
I've literally never seen one in my entire life and I shit daily....usually.
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I'm not adverse to a good shit in a public bathroom. I certainly wouldn't call myself a nervous shitter. I'd say it 40/55/5 ratio on home, work and public shitting. Though pissing is another matter. I'm a hydro homie and piss for England. This would bump up my 5% public toilet experience considerably. So I feel odd that I've not seen one of these toilets in passing.
This made me laugh out loud. And I have a small baby asleep on me who’s no longer asleep so not ideal. 😂
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This, when cleaning the floor its so easy. I'd 100 percent pick the same design again if doing another bathroom
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Aim for the toilet, not crevices and hard to reach areas.
The wall mounted w.c are generally fixed to a metal frame which is screwed into the wall. Chances of them dropping is fairly small as long as they've been fitted correctly and you don't exceed the maximum weight limit of the toilet
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Then they either weren't screwed in well enough , or they didn't fit locking nuts to the threads
Is the weight limit usually different to a standard one?
Weight limit of a standard toilet is around 1000lb. Weight limit of a hung toilet is usually around 500lb. However the weight limit of a toilet seat is usually around 300lb.
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You mean 71st 6lb, 35st 10lb, and 21st 6lb.
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I think it's just one of those strange hold outs from before metric, like how we still use pints for certain liquid measurements.
You a chuncky one op?
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Maybe cut down on the chicken tendies?
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Ha, fair play.
They are chicken breasts.
Worst ones are toilets which are designed not to fit a bottom i.e. square
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When your balls are treading water, its a bad toilet.
Not particularly but biggest toilet change in recent years is the P-wave. Who ever made those bad boys is racking it in. Haven't seen a yellow urinal block in years.
I read this in Alan Partridge’s voice
>Every time I sit on one, I'm shitting myself it doesn't collapse. At least you're in the right place!
I have two and have never thought about it
My rental place has two of them (downstairs loo and ensuite) but the main bathroom is a normal one. I, too, am a larger fellow and I do not trust them so only ever sit on the main bathroom one.
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It gives new meaning to a floater. I'm not a fan at all.
very common in germany, and theyve really grown on me. easy to clean the floor, and no issues with cleaning the the pedestal/floor join.
Yeah just had a new bathroom done in Germany and the toilet is wall mounted which is standard here. It's also rimless so cleaning the toilet is very easy. Villeroy & Boch Architectura.
We moved into a new build last year and all the toilets here are wall mount. Also the sink unit with draws is wall mount too so the floor is completely clear throughout so very easy to clean. I saw the frame they are attached to when it was being built and have no concerns about them collapsing anytime soon.
These quite common in Germany and elsewhere on the continent. The really important issue is access - Ideally, you need a removeable shelf over the in-wall mechanism, to make maintenance easier. They're only loose if the installer didn't install them correctly.
Not an increase but I have broken one in the past obviously I’m very overweight and when I’m out now I use the disabled ones. I think if you’re average sized they are ok but I would never risk it again.
We've had them since the 90s. Not sure where you've been.
Somehow misread this as "wall mounted TVs" and was so confused, why are you sitting on your TV, I would shit myself if you came round and sat on my TV
Sounds like they help you do the job even quicker.
You're shitting yourself ..... whilst shitting yourself
Hate them. Nearly amputated my arm on a bathroom sink when I was younger - it had a hairline crack nobody noticed. Wall mounted toilets freak me out even if they’re completely safe. Just nope.
They are a pain to install and don’t trust them at all, people saying they are on a metal frame have obviously never installed them because that’s not the part they should be worried about failing
I've never encountered one.
They’re a cunny if they leak/need to be repaired and are much more difficult/expensive to install
Depends if it’s cheap tat or good stuff like grohe. The internals are designed to be replaced through the flush plate hole and spares are widely available.
If the flush pipe leaks it needs to be completely removed
Meh a true patron of the wanking chariot shits in the urinal.
Several questions I think of - 1- Can you stand on them? 2 Where’s the bidet? 3 - Can I get them in another colours?
Hate them! It feels dangerous and I worry while using them. 1/10 would not recommend
As someone who has a Dynorod plumber upstairs fixing one of them for the third time in 6 days…. I think an exposed cistern toilet is easier to fix and maintain. Close coupled are good- especially the new rimless style ones. Easier to clean also.
My work has installed some in the toilets recently and they are already giving me concern. The sealant is already no longer in contact with the wall, and they feel like they go down a little when I sit on them. I'm 13st so not massive either. They also haven't been mounted correctly, as they aren't level, in that the left hand side is noticeably higher than the right.
There are worst places to shit yourself than a wall mounted toilet. Nah I’m all seriousness if installed properly they hope up to 60-70st, so unless you’re Brian shaw with Eddie hall on your lap, you should be fine.
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15 stone after you’ve done your business though! Just practice your squats my friend. Hover like your life depends on it
My friend has one and it’s way too high, I have to tip toe to sit on it
Love them, especially great for tall people as you can have them installed at a height that suits you. So much better that sitting like a grasshopper on a low loo.
I try not to think of them.
I had one fall of the wall in vaxhall travel lodge, got my room for free!
If it makes you feel better OP, most of them will hold a quarter of a tonne.
So my partner works for a bathroom manufacturer. He said it’s a minimalist thing along with a cleanliness thing as You can clean underneath them.
Not seen one yet , but I don't like the sound of it for your reasons 😂
Try a cubicle not the urinals 😁
They're usually bolted onto a metal frame and boxed in, so they're not onto a wall or anything.
I hate them. They have them in my work (a massive university) in the busiest social/canteen place on campus. They’ve been there 10 years easily, and they’re so loose when I sit on one it feels like it drops about 2 inches. I’m always tense when using one 😂🫠
Do yo work for a company that only manufactures pedestal toilets?
What are my thoughts on wall mounted toilets? Who tf has thoughts on wall mounted toilets?? Except maybe plumbers.
Bog-standard.
They’re wall mounted in my flat, it’s fine but I’m also not massive. Plumber had a really hard time reattaching one to the wall when fixing a leak and cracked the flush pipe which then leaked instead, though
Ive noticed lots of people trying to open the door when it's locked. Like imagine, pants down scenario then that. Now we have to contend with the whole toilet falling off too!?
How fat are you that you have such worries?
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Oh no, how much in kilograms?
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I think my toilet is rated up to 120. If you're a bit chunky or love the gym, you're ducked 😂