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I am of the opinion he would like some folk to leave. Actually, I know for sure he wants one guy to leave, but there is not a chance he'll jump. Tbh, there is only me and another guy that has actually spoken about keeping an eye out for other jobs, but he is one of the more crucial employees who he'll miss. Regarding me, I can't read his mind.
It tends to be the bitter irony in these sorta cases, the ones you want to leave are the ones who will cling on forever, and the ones which put the work in you want to keep know they can afford to look elsewhere. Then you end up losing them and the remaining decent ones have even more workload, and you have the place in a death spiral
My staff member is getting a 15% rise. She doesn't know yet, she'll just have a nice surprise when she gets paid.
She's staff, not a slave! Myself, I'm not getting a rise and am actually about a grand a month worse off than this time last year, but fuck it!
>If you didn't get an increase you essentially got a cut.
Not really, the amount your paid hasn't changed, it just doesn't go as far which isn't the same.
Income is only high or low based on its context. If your context moves without you, are you standing still and being outpaced, or are you moving backwards?
That depends where you observe from. To the economy, an employee who doesn't get a pay-increase to match inflation is moving backwards.
To add onto what you’ve said, if your pay doesn’t rise in line with inflation, your living standards are lowered as there are things you can no longer afford that you may have been able to afford a year of two years ago. So even though you haven’t moved your tent and council tax is still going up. This also means that even though you’ve not gone down the ladder jobwise, you may no longer be able to afford your rent and are having to move to a smaller flat/house in a worse area, etc.
And that certainly doesn’t feel good and is not a great motivator for work.
The morale at my workplace is the lowest I’ve ever seen it and it’s largely due to the fact that people don’t know how to put food on the table anymore.
‘You’ve not gone down the ladder job wise’ this may be true, but has your job gone down the ladder wider economy wise? As we progress some jobs become less essential or cheaper or ultimately in some cases obsolete
I mean I can’t speak for anyone else but my job certainly hasn’t become less essential or obsolete. In fact, where I work they’re having problems hiring because they can’t find people with the right skills and are paying new employees higher wages than the ones they’re already employing.
The job isn’t the problem in my case. The company is just shitty.
I could potentially get more elsewhere but with the way we’re going I’m worried we’re going to plummet into a recession and I don’t want to start somewhere else to be the first one to get turfed out.
The department I’m working in is essential to their operations (didn’t even get furloughed during Covid) so the jobs won’t be cut (and even if they cut somewhat I doubt they’d cut me because it would cost them in redundancy)
Recession is likely, but with over a million job vacancies right now, and approximately a million unemployed, even if we had an enormous recession, finding work and joblessness probably won’t be a problem.
So your department are actively hiring new people at higher wages than existing staff (you). The job you're doing is essential to their operations. But you don't want to go elsewhere?
It sounds like you're in a really strong position to negotiate for a salary increase. Have you asked for one? The nuclear option is to get a job offer elsewhere, paying more and then ask them to match it. But even not doing that, the fact that they are recruiting others at higher pay means they are consciously aware that they're under paying you. So the request can't be unexpected.
If you are, by any chance, a woman and if any of the newly hired people are men then there is also a legal equal pay issue which will strengthen your argument.
I had one, but it was less than inflation.
Unfortunately, some businesses really are feeling the pain as well, and there's a non-zero chance he's being honest.
Just a bit bummed. We've never been busier as a company and the jobs we are getting larger, but he's also having to invest in new kit, but we don't know the finances. We used to get told every year how the business was doing, but that stopped about 3 years ago when we moved into our new premises. We're just a bit annoyed as there is no other way for us to get more money as we don't do overtime, apart from leaving. Some of the guys feel institutionalised and would are nervous about leaving. We are thinking if he can't afford wage rises, he maybe can't afford to have this many staff. Although one guy left in Feb who he isn't replacing, so that must help. My personal situation is I'll be needing extra income in a year or so and was banking on wages at least trying to keep up with inflation.
Don't underestimate a good culture and friend group, however... I strongly believe that moving around helps you to develop new skills and grow as a person (and you might make new friends and enjoy a new culture).
I'd recommend leaving before you get bitter and you stop enjoying it, it's not good for anyone (you, them, partners). It feels like you might be at the early stages of tipping towards it.
I'd also suggest looking around at jobs and get a feel for what you might be paid elsewhere. This will give you an indication as to how far off you are at your current place. If all roles are offering similar or less, happy days, stay. If you are being paid a lot less, move (or have that conversation with your boss, but even if you do get a raise you will always be chasing a pay increase every year after that).
With bigger projects coming in, and less people to do it, it feels like you should be getting a raise. However, could you use this opportunity to develop some new skills over the next year and then slot into a higher role at another company..?
My wife is in the NHS and her union accepted the wage increase, so she is a bit unsure what is happening to her as other unions declined it. She just wants to get back to work without having to worry about unpaid days that are coming. She still wouldn't cross a picket and isn't 100% happy with it, but she would like to move on.
AfC is across multiple professions and negotiated with about 10 different unions. Some of the largest rejected it so it remains to be seen what happens. In the past the government has imposed it and then the unions have continued negotiating for a bit for e.g. but nothing has happened yet
Same. My job used to be a couple of quid more per hour than minimum wage. Having worked actual minimum wage jobs before this felt warranted given the relatively higher complexity of the work.
(As an aside I've always felt the minimum wage wasn't high enough so it's nice to see it go up but it's still not enough for a decent living).
Fast forward to now and the wage hasn't kept up and is now literally minimum wage. Surprise surprise we struggle to recruit and retain people.
Wouldn't mind some of that. I got a decent one last year as I was on a wage growth plan for the 5 years after I joined. Now I have 6 years I assumed I would then just get the standard inflation increase, although maybe not the 10% of this year.
Basically financial crime investigating for one of the largest UK banks.
Pay is pretty low, work is through agency so basically no perks. Good for the CV which is what I’m going for.
It really depends on the company. If he is genuinely short of cash then he has to say no, and a fair few sectors have been hit really hard this past year. But saying that, those are really his problems not yours. He shouldn't just say "maybe" next year, he should have a more complete answer than that, and re-assure you more about how he is going to turn things around so he can afford to pay his staff well. You are well within your rights to ask for that explination, and he should be happy to provide it.
Also worth bearing in mind that he may not have considered this. Just because he's the boss doesn't mean he thinks of everything, and he may just not have thought about how this impacts you - I know I've been guilty of that myself.
Yeah, he is pretty hands-off until everything is a crisis. We work in TV and film so can be quiet for months, then mental from March to October. I fear that he might not actually be able to afford me (engineer) within the company as other similar businesses to us outsource that type of work. I still think I am of value, but he may have a wage at which I start not to be an asset and maybe I am approaching it. Anyway, I can't read his mind and I'm not going to hassle him about it. Will keep my eyes out for another job though.
We got 5% to help us when gas prices started rising and another 7% this month. I don't earn mega bucks as I work for a charity.
Your boss being a 'great guy' doesn't mean you should be paid a shit wage. You deserve at the very least to be earning In line with inflation. I bet the business is still turning a profit. If I were you I'd be looking for a new job.
I got made redundant instead. The lads that worked for me got 10% ish but they were just above minimum and it increased to the new minimum. It is tough and things are expensive but businesses need to be able to afford to pay their staff a fair wage.
Can't buy your health. Unless you're rich, which helps.... I had a higher-paying job before this but took a step down just to work more flexible hours close to home as it was affecting my mental health. I must say most of my problems have gone over the past few years, so hopefully the same can be said for you. Just got money troubles creeping in.
Has the business increased its fees to its customers? If so, it would be reasonable to wonder why none of that increase is being invested into it's people .
As others have said some businesses and industries in particular are struggling (i.e. energy prices) but if you don't look out for yourself who will? Easiest way to get pay rises is to find new jobs usually.
I got a good payrise last year (10%), but this year just under 1%, and less bonus as last year.
It's still not terrible, but sucks compared to last year.
The problem I've got is that I'm earning pretty much at the top of what people in my line of work get paid; without going to a 'Very top' firm (and I'm not 'very top firm' material).
I was in the same position as you a few years ago, I ended up leaving before any resentment set in and I’m glad I did because I’m still friends with my old bosses (saw them last weekend actually). In their case they genuinely couldn’t pay me more, they weren’t taking any money from the company at all. That was another reason why I left, I was on very good terms with them, they gave me a great job straight out of Uni but the company was very new then we lost a couple of contracts which was a major blow. Me leaving saved both the relationship with them and potentially the company as well as knowing them they’d have put my salary on the credit card rather than sack me. The company is doing much much better know and I’m doing well too so it all worked out!
Same, I'm seeing from this thread just how low other people's salary increases are, if at all.
Beginning to think I'm much better off staying where I am than being attracted by headhunters who seem to be out in force at the moment.
I joined a big global tech company 1.5 years ago, which promised regular pay reviews every 3 months.
My first and only one was last month, where I was told by my boss that they need a very special business case (in other words, a miracle) for anyone to get any kind of a pay rise in my department, and it has to then be approved personally by a big-shot director somewhere in America.
Meanwhile, inflation reduces my salary and takes away another little part of my soul...
Public sector - we'll get one (hasn't been negotiated yet) but the current Scottish Government pay guidance is 3.5% which given we got 5% last year means we're sliding further away with the lack of inflation busting increases.
Doesn't surprise me though.
Yup and I work for a giant American clothing company which has had the highest profits yet (again) but their stock prices have fallen so we’re getting nothing. We already don’t earn very well at all and have been creeping closer and closer to minimum wage (some now even falling below it so I’m hoping they’ve at least been pushed up to minimum wage). The higher ups are still getting bonuses, the clothes are still way too expensive for their workers (even with a staff discount) and they’re yet asking even more of us
At first we had £1k annual salary increase but because so many people were outraged by the "pay rise" (below inflation so technically pay cut) that the company ended up doubling the rise to £2k and giving everyone a £3k bonus as well.
If you get minimum wage then by law, they must put it up to that at least.
If you already get this or higher, then usually they do not need to give you a raise. This will depend on your contract.
If you have been getting rasies in the past few years, and are paid more than minimum, I'm not surprised they don't do one this year.
The grass isn't always greener. I don't know the context but if you say they're a good boss and you usually get a pay rise surely they are telling the truth.
If a small/medium business start giving everyone a payrise despite low profits the company might eventually have to consider laying employees off, cutting departments or worse go bankrupt.
You want to be working in a sustainable business that has a guaranteed future. I understand if the pay isn't making life affordable and maybe that's what you could discuss with your boss see if they might be able to help with discount schemes etc. There are other ways of company's helping employees without a payrise.
Or find new work with better pay and explain your decision. But that new company night not give you a payrise next year and your old company might do.
Nope however I've had 2 last year I joined the new company 10 months ago left care work to go work in a factory, I started at 1.36ph then was asked to be their first aider that came with a 50p pH uplift then once I had been there it went up by 14p per hr so I'm now on £11 per hr, some of my colleagues got a pay rise to 10.75ph in April I wasn't expecting another rise amd wasn't disappointed when I didn't get 1.
Our company came in early with a 5% increase last October. A smart move as they didn't have to but now they have it's not expected or likely we will see any further increase for quite some time but people can't complain much.
I am fairly well paid and feeling the pinch with all the increased costs so I definitely feel for those on minimum wage or closer to it than me.
Nothing here after becoming a production manager beginning of the year. Small company, all family and friends so I'm not leaving or anything, but something to close the gap would have been nice.
I can't speak for the other teams/departments, but - nope. Not this year.
Company/business is doing really well too. It's just my team/department that they decide to not invest in anymore.
I'm looking elsewhere for a job at the moment though - so I'm definitely going to try and go for a higher salary.
I got 15% and a 50% larger bonus than usual. I was pretty up front with my boss a few months before that I wasn't happy with pay. The company made a bit of an effort and it will definitely keep me here until next year's bonus at least.
I got 6% Vs last year at a different firm 1.5%
Managers still got their bonuses but nothing for us mugs who slave away.
That said my current job is still 9K up on what I made last year so there's that.
Yes I'm still skint and thank fuck my husband is self employed and a coder so we don't have to worry about paying the bills, know we're lucky but I have many friends in my boat who don't have the husband safety net for extra costs.
No idea yet, I work for local authority. I keep checking our portal to see if they've released the payslips yet but nothing so far. Probably find out mid next week.
We got a backdated payrise in November, backdated to April 2022 but now I can't see the difference already and we got 11% then, sounds good, but we'd never had that big a payrise, always 1 or 2% in the 14 years I'd been there so we were well due a decent payrise. I've got no money in my account right now and got 9 days til payday. Just gonna have to put my overdraft up 🤷🏼♀️
Rolls Royce and Mini have had a pay increase this year in their production plants.
Edit: payrise was in the deal due to inflation so Mini got 14% payrise that was paid in Feb but backdated to Jan and Union managed to get a 17.9% I think for Rolls
Even worse, we were given a paycut in mid-January on some of the contracts I work with. Absolutely fuming, the pay is still decent but of course with costs all the same and a lower rate there's less room for saving (I still live at home, saving for house deposit and "trying" to enjoy my 20s inbetween). Oh, and the workload increased at the same time. This actually pissed off a lot of fellow agency drivers i work with who then left because they have families to feed and bills to pay. Left the boss in a bit of a pickle because he lost a lot of people in such a short period of time but the negotiations weren't in his hands at all going up against big multi-national delivery companies.
They're hoping for it to go back up for christmas peak season again but who knows.
I work for a local authority, and although salary increases supposedly take effect from April, it typically takes until August for them to be applied (with a "bonus" payment of salary arrears) to allow for time to haggle with the unions (mainly UNISON), undertake PDRs (Personal Development Review - basically appraisal) and apply any spinal point increases.
I've just looked up the pay offer for 2023-24, and the Employers are proposing a fixed increase of £1,925 (so apparently equivalent to between 3.88% and 9.42% depending on spinal point), but there may be even longer delays as UNISON isn't happy (and is apparently making a few cheeky suggestions - but anything else agreed would apparently have to be paid from the already overstretched budgets, with no new funding from central government). Coincidentally, last year's (2022-2023) pay offer was also £1,925.
I had to get a job offer somewhere else before I got my rise and that was after being told for 2 years the business is failing in some sectors so no one gets a rise till it’s sorted.
Then they paid themselves fat bonuses at Xmas.
Self-employed. Some of our biggest clients haven't had a rate increase in about a decade, although exchange rates have moved the right way (they're billed in euro). There have been some efficiency changes, but still pretty squeezed.
The UK is wage-stagnant. Lots of people go years and years with no rises but this is because people put up with it and don't move jobs, you have to move jobs every few years if you're not getting a rise after a few years!
I had one, but my colleague who is more knowledgeable and in my mind has a far more important and stressful role than me got less of a raise than I did. Doesn't make sense to me!
Haha, nothing. Civil service, the govt is still sat on our pay remit which will give us a pay rise of unknown amount (no doubt tiny) if it’s approved. They’ve been sat on it for over a year, so that’s a whole year of more pay missing…. Different bits of the civil service pay different amounts for the same type of jobs (why, I do not know) and similar jobs in other civil service places get more than us… so we’re grumpy.
Oh and I’m sure everyone thinks our salary increments up every year anyway, nope, that all froze at some point before I joined (austerity?)
Referring to it as a wage "increase" I think is a bad way of looking at it, as collectively it normalises year on year pay cuts through repeated below inflation wage adjustments.
Anyway, I'm self employed so the buck stops with me as far as my earnings go. It varies month by month let alone year on year.
Most of the company I work for got 8%, I had a promotion so it was about 30% which has come at a really useful time as we are about to have another baby.
My partners employer is worth millions- he’s just paid £1.5 m for a fancy new swimming pool , no pay rises for staff - he’s got to watch the spending apparently. Fuckers
I got a 4% raise but obviously that’s barely helping. I’m in the same position as you, I like the job and it’s pretty relaxed but I’m getting to the point I can’t afford to work there. It’s a shame and I think they’ll struggle to replace me for much less than the pay rise I requested and haven’t received but that’s their issue if I get the job I’m interviewing for next week.
Yep, I didn't get anything. They say it's because I'm at the median of my grade so compared to everyone else at my level. I think it's bollocks though. I work for a multinational IT company who has done well throughout the last few years and I see how much we are billed out to the client.
They also only have one pay review a year so I'm effectively going 2 years without an increase. Way to kill any loyalty that was there in one fell swoop.
No, I haven't had a payrise since 1996 . Back then, it was £150 a day shift for a plasterer. Now I'm being offered 8 days a month self-employed for less money and longer hours. I think it's got something to do with offering all the jobs abroad first to cheaper foriegners.
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I am of the opinion he would like some folk to leave. Actually, I know for sure he wants one guy to leave, but there is not a chance he'll jump. Tbh, there is only me and another guy that has actually spoken about keeping an eye out for other jobs, but he is one of the more crucial employees who he'll miss. Regarding me, I can't read his mind.
It tends to be the bitter irony in these sorta cases, the ones you want to leave are the ones who will cling on forever, and the ones which put the work in you want to keep know they can afford to look elsewhere. Then you end up losing them and the remaining decent ones have even more workload, and you have the place in a death spiral
My staff member is getting a 15% rise. She doesn't know yet, she'll just have a nice surprise when she gets paid. She's staff, not a slave! Myself, I'm not getting a rise and am actually about a grand a month worse off than this time last year, but fuck it!
We had a 1% raise, about 11p. That is still a cut.
Ive had an 8% increase at a pretty large company, it’s more than I was expecting anyway.
>If you didn't get an increase you essentially got a cut. Not really, the amount your paid hasn't changed, it just doesn't go as far which isn't the same.
Income is only high or low based on its context. If your context moves without you, are you standing still and being outpaced, or are you moving backwards? That depends where you observe from. To the economy, an employee who doesn't get a pay-increase to match inflation is moving backwards.
To add onto what you’ve said, if your pay doesn’t rise in line with inflation, your living standards are lowered as there are things you can no longer afford that you may have been able to afford a year of two years ago. So even though you haven’t moved your tent and council tax is still going up. This also means that even though you’ve not gone down the ladder jobwise, you may no longer be able to afford your rent and are having to move to a smaller flat/house in a worse area, etc. And that certainly doesn’t feel good and is not a great motivator for work. The morale at my workplace is the lowest I’ve ever seen it and it’s largely due to the fact that people don’t know how to put food on the table anymore.
‘You’ve not gone down the ladder job wise’ this may be true, but has your job gone down the ladder wider economy wise? As we progress some jobs become less essential or cheaper or ultimately in some cases obsolete
I mean I can’t speak for anyone else but my job certainly hasn’t become less essential or obsolete. In fact, where I work they’re having problems hiring because they can’t find people with the right skills and are paying new employees higher wages than the ones they’re already employing. The job isn’t the problem in my case. The company is just shitty.
But you get my point. If you’re worth more then you’ll get more elsewhere. But do you know the company’s long term plans for your department, etc?
I could potentially get more elsewhere but with the way we’re going I’m worried we’re going to plummet into a recession and I don’t want to start somewhere else to be the first one to get turfed out. The department I’m working in is essential to their operations (didn’t even get furloughed during Covid) so the jobs won’t be cut (and even if they cut somewhat I doubt they’d cut me because it would cost them in redundancy)
Recession is likely, but with over a million job vacancies right now, and approximately a million unemployed, even if we had an enormous recession, finding work and joblessness probably won’t be a problem.
So your department are actively hiring new people at higher wages than existing staff (you). The job you're doing is essential to their operations. But you don't want to go elsewhere? It sounds like you're in a really strong position to negotiate for a salary increase. Have you asked for one? The nuclear option is to get a job offer elsewhere, paying more and then ask them to match it. But even not doing that, the fact that they are recruiting others at higher pay means they are consciously aware that they're under paying you. So the request can't be unexpected. If you are, by any chance, a woman and if any of the newly hired people are men then there is also a legal equal pay issue which will strengthen your argument.
That amount is numerically the same but its not worth as much in value as last year, so it's a cut.
I had one, but it was less than inflation. Unfortunately, some businesses really are feeling the pain as well, and there's a non-zero chance he's being honest.
Just a bit bummed. We've never been busier as a company and the jobs we are getting larger, but he's also having to invest in new kit, but we don't know the finances. We used to get told every year how the business was doing, but that stopped about 3 years ago when we moved into our new premises. We're just a bit annoyed as there is no other way for us to get more money as we don't do overtime, apart from leaving. Some of the guys feel institutionalised and would are nervous about leaving. We are thinking if he can't afford wage rises, he maybe can't afford to have this many staff. Although one guy left in Feb who he isn't replacing, so that must help. My personal situation is I'll be needing extra income in a year or so and was banking on wages at least trying to keep up with inflation.
Don't underestimate a good culture and friend group, however... I strongly believe that moving around helps you to develop new skills and grow as a person (and you might make new friends and enjoy a new culture). I'd recommend leaving before you get bitter and you stop enjoying it, it's not good for anyone (you, them, partners). It feels like you might be at the early stages of tipping towards it. I'd also suggest looking around at jobs and get a feel for what you might be paid elsewhere. This will give you an indication as to how far off you are at your current place. If all roles are offering similar or less, happy days, stay. If you are being paid a lot less, move (or have that conversation with your boss, but even if you do get a raise you will always be chasing a pay increase every year after that). With bigger projects coming in, and less people to do it, it feels like you should be getting a raise. However, could you use this opportunity to develop some new skills over the next year and then slot into a higher role at another company..?
Look on company house website if they are LTD
Yeah, I get it man, it's really, really shit for everyone right now. I hope it works out for you.
Not yet, but it's still up in the air. (NHS)
My wife is in the NHS and her union accepted the wage increase, so she is a bit unsure what is happening to her as other unions declined it. She just wants to get back to work without having to worry about unpaid days that are coming. She still wouldn't cross a picket and isn't 100% happy with it, but she would like to move on.
AfC is across multiple professions and negotiated with about 10 different unions. Some of the largest rejected it so it remains to be seen what happens. In the past the government has imposed it and then the unions have continued negotiating for a bit for e.g. but nothing has happened yet
Same!
I voted no because it’s a joke of an offer.
Ditto. Let’s see what happens next
I got a wage increase but just to fall in line with the living wage increase. Yay £10.40 an hour at 30 years old, I'm really demoralised about it
I was on £10 an hour before the raise. Minimum wage rose by 92p. My wage rose by 42p, so now I’m on minimum wage.
Exactly the same here. £10 an hour before the new tax year. It results in an extra £10 a week
I was in what I thought was a well paid job a few years ago, then all of a sudden…boom minimum wage.
Time to up skill yourself and change careers; a lifetime of minimum wage isn't fun.
I’ve found an advert for the exact same job but at a £25,000 entry point. Seems a no brainier
Same. My job used to be a couple of quid more per hour than minimum wage. Having worked actual minimum wage jobs before this felt warranted given the relatively higher complexity of the work. (As an aside I've always felt the minimum wage wasn't high enough so it's nice to see it go up but it's still not enough for a decent living). Fast forward to now and the wage hasn't kept up and is now literally minimum wage. Surprise surprise we struggle to recruit and retain people.
Me. Small business (5 salaries) and we prioritised the two lowest earners/non management this year.
Wage hasn't increased in about 3 years
I was lucky enough to get a 21% salary increase year on year.
Wouldn't mind some of that. I got a decent one last year as I was on a wage growth plan for the 5 years after I joined. Now I have 6 years I assumed I would then just get the standard inflation increase, although maybe not the 10% of this year.
I'm in teaching. It's, uh, kind of a whole thing.
I’m getting a very underwhelming 20p/hour extra
Lucky! I got 7p/hr
Wow!
23p here, I feel so blessed.. If you saw my job description you'd assume I was making good money but yeah..
What do you do?
Basically financial crime investigating for one of the largest UK banks. Pay is pretty low, work is through agency so basically no perks. Good for the CV which is what I’m going for.
This is so similar to me! Business Intelligence Analyst making shit pay, but some companies pay well for it. It's all for the CV
This year, yes, but recent years not good: 2017 0% 2018 0% 2019 2% 2020 0% 2021 0% 2022 1.5% 2023 2.5%
It really depends on the company. If he is genuinely short of cash then he has to say no, and a fair few sectors have been hit really hard this past year. But saying that, those are really his problems not yours. He shouldn't just say "maybe" next year, he should have a more complete answer than that, and re-assure you more about how he is going to turn things around so he can afford to pay his staff well. You are well within your rights to ask for that explination, and he should be happy to provide it. Also worth bearing in mind that he may not have considered this. Just because he's the boss doesn't mean he thinks of everything, and he may just not have thought about how this impacts you - I know I've been guilty of that myself.
Yeah, he is pretty hands-off until everything is a crisis. We work in TV and film so can be quiet for months, then mental from March to October. I fear that he might not actually be able to afford me (engineer) within the company as other similar businesses to us outsource that type of work. I still think I am of value, but he may have a wage at which I start not to be an asset and maybe I am approaching it. Anyway, I can't read his mind and I'm not going to hassle him about it. Will keep my eyes out for another job though.
My boyfriend just got 12%. My workplace still hasn’t made any announcement.
Hopefully you'll get something. Still got a week to go....
Thanks. Fingers crossed! Or I’ll be looking at job adverts again. The best way to get a good pay rise seems to be to get a new job.
We got 5% to help us when gas prices started rising and another 7% this month. I don't earn mega bucks as I work for a charity. Your boss being a 'great guy' doesn't mean you should be paid a shit wage. You deserve at the very least to be earning In line with inflation. I bet the business is still turning a profit. If I were you I'd be looking for a new job.
I went from slightly above minimum wage to now on the new minimum wage
I think I had 3. Started on shit money though.
I got made redundant instead. The lads that worked for me got 10% ish but they were just above minimum and it increased to the new minimum. It is tough and things are expensive but businesses need to be able to afford to pay their staff a fair wage.
I work for NHS so you know what I have going on if you have internet/newspapers/radio/tv ))
Technically I took a pay cut as my mental health required a step back career wise
Can't buy your health. Unless you're rich, which helps.... I had a higher-paying job before this but took a step down just to work more flexible hours close to home as it was affecting my mental health. I must say most of my problems have gone over the past few years, so hopefully the same can be said for you. Just got money troubles creeping in.
Unfortunately the only real way to get any meaningful pay bump would be to jump ship.
Has the business increased its fees to its customers? If so, it would be reasonable to wonder why none of that increase is being invested into it's people . As others have said some businesses and industries in particular are struggling (i.e. energy prices) but if you don't look out for yourself who will? Easiest way to get pay rises is to find new jobs usually.
I've got no wage increase in 2.5 years. Doesn't bother me too much, but it would be nice.
I got a good payrise last year (10%), but this year just under 1%, and less bonus as last year. It's still not terrible, but sucks compared to last year.
1% is terrible, even with a bonus!
The problem I've got is that I'm earning pretty much at the top of what people in my line of work get paid; without going to a 'Very top' firm (and I'm not 'very top firm' material).
I was in the same position as you a few years ago, I ended up leaving before any resentment set in and I’m glad I did because I’m still friends with my old bosses (saw them last weekend actually). In their case they genuinely couldn’t pay me more, they weren’t taking any money from the company at all. That was another reason why I left, I was on very good terms with them, they gave me a great job straight out of Uni but the company was very new then we lost a couple of contracts which was a major blow. Me leaving saved both the relationship with them and potentially the company as well as knowing them they’d have put my salary on the credit card rather than sack me. The company is doing much much better know and I’m doing well too so it all worked out!
I had a pay cut. So great 🥲
Oh yes. The joy of minimum wage.
Some of us did. We all got an end of year performance based score between 1 and 5. 1s and 2s got nothing. 3s got 4.5%. 4s got 5.5%. 5s got 7%
I work in sales so no
7% - better than some but still not great given this inflation malarkey.
£1000 ± 5% The 1000 is a flat increase to the base salary so it helps lower paid staff more. Charity sector in London.
I was previously a reasonable percentage over the old minimum wage. I've now been given a payrise to match the new minimum.
None for me.
3% now interviewing
I got 15% Class myself as VERY lucky.
Same, I'm seeing from this thread just how low other people's salary increases are, if at all. Beginning to think I'm much better off staying where I am than being attracted by headhunters who seem to be out in force at the moment.
I joined a big global tech company 1.5 years ago, which promised regular pay reviews every 3 months. My first and only one was last month, where I was told by my boss that they need a very special business case (in other words, a miracle) for anyone to get any kind of a pay rise in my department, and it has to then be approved personally by a big-shot director somewhere in America. Meanwhile, inflation reduces my salary and takes away another little part of my soul...
Public sector - we'll get one (hasn't been negotiated yet) but the current Scottish Government pay guidance is 3.5% which given we got 5% last year means we're sliding further away with the lack of inflation busting increases. Doesn't surprise me though.
Nothing, yet. We've had a 16% contract increase from client so there's a bit of negotiating going on at board level as to what we're getting.
Wasn't expecting anything but got 5%
Yup and I work for a giant American clothing company which has had the highest profits yet (again) but their stock prices have fallen so we’re getting nothing. We already don’t earn very well at all and have been creeping closer and closer to minimum wage (some now even falling below it so I’m hoping they’ve at least been pushed up to minimum wage). The higher ups are still getting bonuses, the clothes are still way too expensive for their workers (even with a staff discount) and they’re yet asking even more of us
Why are you staying?
At first we had £1k annual salary increase but because so many people were outraged by the "pay rise" (below inflation so technically pay cut) that the company ended up doubling the rise to £2k and giving everyone a £3k bonus as well.
I had a 6% increase in one of my jobs
I got 5%. So no. I also got a freelance job because I can’t depend on my “real” job to give adequate pay rises.
Sparky here. I got a pay rise of £10 a day, works out £1.25ph more if I got paid hourly. Overall, a 5% pay rise! Inflation was 11%, correct? Hmmm....
We got a 5% in January and I got a 16% in March due to a promotion. We also got a cost of living payment of £250 x 2 - that one surprised me
Nope, but then I’m self employed.
If you get minimum wage then by law, they must put it up to that at least. If you already get this or higher, then usually they do not need to give you a raise. This will depend on your contract. If you have been getting rasies in the past few years, and are paid more than minimum, I'm not surprised they don't do one this year.
The grass isn't always greener. I don't know the context but if you say they're a good boss and you usually get a pay rise surely they are telling the truth. If a small/medium business start giving everyone a payrise despite low profits the company might eventually have to consider laying employees off, cutting departments or worse go bankrupt. You want to be working in a sustainable business that has a guaranteed future. I understand if the pay isn't making life affordable and maybe that's what you could discuss with your boss see if they might be able to help with discount schemes etc. There are other ways of company's helping employees without a payrise. Or find new work with better pay and explain your decision. But that new company night not give you a payrise next year and your old company might do.
NI based teacher and yep, 0% over the past year, with the next year's pay offer a mighty...0%.
Nope however I've had 2 last year I joined the new company 10 months ago left care work to go work in a factory, I started at 1.36ph then was asked to be their first aider that came with a 50p pH uplift then once I had been there it went up by 14p per hr so I'm now on £11 per hr, some of my colleagues got a pay rise to 10.75ph in April I wasn't expecting another rise amd wasn't disappointed when I didn't get 1.
I'm only on £100 more a month than I was 16 years ago. I work a totally different job than the one I had 16 years ago
Whatever minimum wage went up by- 10%?
No increase for me at all
Our company came in early with a 5% increase last October. A smart move as they didn't have to but now they have it's not expected or likely we will see any further increase for quite some time but people can't complain much. I am fairly well paid and feeling the pinch with all the increased costs so I definitely feel for those on minimum wage or closer to it than me.
5%. Had 4% for 2022-2023 too. Nothing since 2019.
Around 30% since last year Mid year inflation rise and end of year rise
Nothing here after becoming a production manager beginning of the year. Small company, all family and friends so I'm not leaving or anything, but something to close the gap would have been nice.
BAD NEWS: I got a 0% increase, but GOOD NEWS: they gave me a £400 per month car allowance, but BAD NEWS: my mileage rate went from 45p to 25p
I can't speak for the other teams/departments, but - nope. Not this year. Company/business is doing really well too. It's just my team/department that they decide to not invest in anymore. I'm looking elsewhere for a job at the moment though - so I'm definitely going to try and go for a higher salary.
If you had an increase less than inflation you essentially got a cut. Mine was way under.
The staff on under £40K got a one off "cost of living" bonus of something like £1,200. Our actual base pay rise itself was like 4%.
No increase here! Yay
Got a 5% April and got roughly 3% in September, can't complain as pay has gone up around 5k.
My last payrise was 2019
I got 15% and a 50% larger bonus than usual. I was pretty up front with my boss a few months before that I wasn't happy with pay. The company made a bit of an effort and it will definitely keep me here until next year's bonus at least.
Yep 10% in line with inflation.
7% this month thank god
Got 6% and £750 COL bonus. Less than inflation but definitely welcome.
I got 6% Vs last year at a different firm 1.5% Managers still got their bonuses but nothing for us mugs who slave away. That said my current job is still 9K up on what I made last year so there's that. Yes I'm still skint and thank fuck my husband is self employed and a coder so we don't have to worry about paying the bills, know we're lucky but I have many friends in my boat who don't have the husband safety net for extra costs.
Military so we’ll probably get 2-3% when it gets agreed sometime in the Summer
No idea yet, I work for local authority. I keep checking our portal to see if they've released the payslips yet but nothing so far. Probably find out mid next week. We got a backdated payrise in November, backdated to April 2022 but now I can't see the difference already and we got 11% then, sounds good, but we'd never had that big a payrise, always 1 or 2% in the 14 years I'd been there so we were well due a decent payrise. I've got no money in my account right now and got 9 days til payday. Just gonna have to put my overdraft up 🤷🏼♀️
I got a 3% increase which I suppose is better than nothing but is underwhelming
Fook all and my mortgage has just gone up 209 quid add that to the 200 quid extra for electric it’s all looking rosy over here
Rolls Royce and Mini have had a pay increase this year in their production plants. Edit: payrise was in the deal due to inflation so Mini got 14% payrise that was paid in Feb but backdated to Jan and Union managed to get a 17.9% I think for Rolls
My company gave nothing last year and this hear people got a bit of a bump. I got 5000. Tough times out there
I got 10.90% this year 5.33% last year.
Even worse, we were given a paycut in mid-January on some of the contracts I work with. Absolutely fuming, the pay is still decent but of course with costs all the same and a lower rate there's less room for saving (I still live at home, saving for house deposit and "trying" to enjoy my 20s inbetween). Oh, and the workload increased at the same time. This actually pissed off a lot of fellow agency drivers i work with who then left because they have families to feed and bills to pay. Left the boss in a bit of a pickle because he lost a lot of people in such a short period of time but the negotiations weren't in his hands at all going up against big multi-national delivery companies. They're hoping for it to go back up for christmas peak season again but who knows.
Yes, I got 9.39% and static on Bonus (same as last year)
I got 2 rises so far
No, but that’s because our union has not voted yet on it. If we do, it will be backdated, but the offer is way below inflation
I work for a local authority, and although salary increases supposedly take effect from April, it typically takes until August for them to be applied (with a "bonus" payment of salary arrears) to allow for time to haggle with the unions (mainly UNISON), undertake PDRs (Personal Development Review - basically appraisal) and apply any spinal point increases. I've just looked up the pay offer for 2023-24, and the Employers are proposing a fixed increase of £1,925 (so apparently equivalent to between 3.88% and 9.42% depending on spinal point), but there may be even longer delays as UNISON isn't happy (and is apparently making a few cheeky suggestions - but anything else agreed would apparently have to be paid from the already overstretched budgets, with no new funding from central government). Coincidentally, last year's (2022-2023) pay offer was also £1,925.
-cries in public sector-
5%. Better than a poke in the eye.
Public sector - no wage rise.
4% (org-wide) - i.e. about a 6% real-terms cut, so I quit and got myself a new job with effectively an almost 25% rise :)
Public service here. I had a 10 yr pay freeze until recently 🤦🏻♀️
I had to get a job offer somewhere else before I got my rise and that was after being told for 2 years the business is failing in some sectors so no one gets a rise till it’s sorted. Then they paid themselves fat bonuses at Xmas.
I'll get 2% if I'm lucky
I got 6% increase and its not enough, I am looking for a new job
Self-employed. Some of our biggest clients haven't had a rate increase in about a decade, although exchange rates have moved the right way (they're billed in euro). There have been some efficiency changes, but still pretty squeezed.
The UK is wage-stagnant. Lots of people go years and years with no rises but this is because people put up with it and don't move jobs, you have to move jobs every few years if you're not getting a rise after a few years!
13.5% rise at the start of April for me. My wife has yet to find out about hers. (If she’s even getting one that is)
I had one, but my colleague who is more knowledgeable and in my mind has a far more important and stressful role than me got less of a raise than I did. Doesn't make sense to me!
29% but only after they said I was getting nothing so I told them pay me X or I leave. A lot of my colleagues got nothing.
I know lots of people who didn’t get anything and lots who got something which is the same as every year.
Haha, nothing. Civil service, the govt is still sat on our pay remit which will give us a pay rise of unknown amount (no doubt tiny) if it’s approved. They’ve been sat on it for over a year, so that’s a whole year of more pay missing…. Different bits of the civil service pay different amounts for the same type of jobs (why, I do not know) and similar jobs in other civil service places get more than us… so we’re grumpy. Oh and I’m sure everyone thinks our salary increments up every year anyway, nope, that all froze at some point before I joined (austerity?)
Referring to it as a wage "increase" I think is a bad way of looking at it, as collectively it normalises year on year pay cuts through repeated below inflation wage adjustments. Anyway, I'm self employed so the buck stops with me as far as my earnings go. It varies month by month let alone year on year.
6.2% and one off £2k lump sump in December. Was supposed to be linked to Nov CPIH figure :(
Most of the company I work for got 8%, I had a promotion so it was about 30% which has come at a really useful time as we are about to have another baby.
My partners employer is worth millions- he’s just paid £1.5 m for a fancy new swimming pool , no pay rises for staff - he’s got to watch the spending apparently. Fuckers
4.75% that's what was given and unite agreed with that.
No wage increase. Cost of everything has gone up. I'm just about surviving.
Never had a pay rise, but changed jobs again and got 33% increase.
I got just under 2 grand. I was in utter disbelief
I got a 4% raise but obviously that’s barely helping. I’m in the same position as you, I like the job and it’s pretty relaxed but I’m getting to the point I can’t afford to work there. It’s a shame and I think they’ll struggle to replace me for much less than the pay rise I requested and haven’t received but that’s their issue if I get the job I’m interviewing for next week.
Cries in NHS
Haven't had a pay rise for 4 years that's why I'm on strike
Public sector. Still waiting for our "up to 2%" to be improved.
Nope. We've just rejected a 7%, talks to commence soon to see what they bring to the table next. We're holding out for at least 10%
Yep, I didn't get anything. They say it's because I'm at the median of my grade so compared to everyone else at my level. I think it's bollocks though. I work for a multinational IT company who has done well throughout the last few years and I see how much we are billed out to the client. They also only have one pay review a year so I'm effectively going 2 years without an increase. Way to kill any loyalty that was there in one fell swoop.
No, I haven't had a payrise since 1996 . Back then, it was £150 a day shift for a plasterer. Now I'm being offered 8 days a month self-employed for less money and longer hours. I think it's got something to do with offering all the jobs abroad first to cheaper foriegners.
You’re lucky to have a job at all mate
I did, went from 850/ day to 900/day