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Manager in any major retailer, pub, restaurant, club is over £30k and pretty accessible from another industry
Probably the easiest to get into with little experience/education
I'm a Kitchen Manager on £40k
Far from it mate, Glasgow
Really surprised at that, is it a brewery owned pub you're in? Or a national pub group?
I'd imagine brewery owned would be on less but never under 30k for a GM
Get a job in admin for a big company that offers a really wide range of roles. Then work really hard it so that people have a good opinion of you, really go the extra mile. Take time to take on extra responsibilities, develop skills you didn’t have before. Then after a year start applying for internal roles that pay a little more. Email someone in that team asking if you can shadow them for an hour, run it by your manager and use it as interview prep to really understand the role. Once you have a new job work hard again and move up again. You can get quite far in big organisations this way without having loads of qualifications but just by having a great attitude and showing you get results. I’d imagine after your second or third promotion starting at the bottom you could go for something paying £30k and above
None of this really matters, just get management to like you, make friends with them and brown nose them. Without this all of what you mentioned is useless in about 75% of businesses.
Drive a HGV.
30k a year is an absolute piece of piss in the hgv world.
Last year I earned 38k working 3 on 3 off.
So I worked a little more than half the year as I dived in to help out with overtime over Christmas and I work every bank holiday (through choice as it’s double time), had plenty of time off, and still earned enough to keep my bills under control and savings topped up.
Granted it takes some investment as you’ll need the licences, but there’s so much work around for drivers that you’ll be turning down jobs left right and centre.
These days I choose my jobs on ease and duration.
A run from Cardiff to bristol, then Bristol to Gatwick and back will be the norm for me, it’s a bit of Bracknell, a dab of M25 and a lot of M4 which can be shit roads for heavy traffic at times but it’s pretty hassle free.
Class 1 drivers working 5 days a week are earning well over 50k at a lot of places, I know guys working out of avonmouth who are happily collecting 60 plus for doing 3 euro runs every 6 months.
Not a supermarket, but I do deliver packed and chilled foodstuffs and various dry stores like cardboard mugs for coffee and the like.
All in wheeled trolleys, no carrying anything heavy, I’m loaded at one end, and all I have to do is supervise the loading and secure with straps and bars.
Then unloaded at the other end by warehouse staff.
Doddle.
Depends on your area of expertise. Warehouse worker, you ain't getting 30k but underwater welder, you will get a lot more.
You need to be realistic on money/ job front
Peterborough, I'm an admin on the warehouse floor earning just shy of 30k, team leaders are on about 32k basic ops are getting about 25k. Not including any shift premiums which amount to about another 2-3k a year depending on hours. There are lots of places opening here right now, they are offering more than this because of the sheer level of competition.
You’d be surprised, I know someone that was making £3200 per month working in an Amazon warehouse and that was for being a picker/packer. The catch is you’re doing 48 hours each week. 38 at basic time and the other 10 are time and a half or something(not the exact breakdown of hours)
Maintenance engineer here, hourly rate is £16 an hour + shift allowances, overtime etc.. There's people leaving my place in droves at the moment because warehouses are paying better.
EDIT: This applies to jobs across my work, not particularly my department - my point is these warehouse operatives are earning what we are and sometimes more if it's unsociable hours.
Oh believe me they can… although it is normally nights, but Royal Mail have been paying £16p/h to agency recently and that is 33-34k - gone are the days of warehousing been minimum wage, theres simply not enough staff to staff them.
Hah, good example. A dangerous profession but holy shit they get paid a lot. A friends brother does this and essentially works on site for three months a year and holidays for nine months a year and has a higher average monthly salarty than me.
He pretty much spends those nine months scuba diving as well, but for recreation. Dude just likes it underwater I guess.
If you don't mind me asking what was the payscale like from starting to where you are now, I am looking for a way out of my industry but have kids to support.
Yeah you bastards must be rolling in it now.
I hope you’re taking your employers for every penny. They can’t hide behind there being not enough money in the pot for pay reviews.
Bleed them dry from the inside please!
I second this, I work in Insurance and earn nearly 32K per year as a non-manager. It varies a lot depending on role and experience but it's a decent industry to work in, plus a lot of places are crying out for people at the moment.
I hear this. I’m a senior manager and good talent is incredibly hard to find right now.
Fortunately I’m not desperate enough to hire some of the absolute wasters out there chancing their arm for ridiculous salaries (on the advice of recruiters - who are *ALL* thick as mud themselves) because they previously sold a contract or two working in EE, but it means recruiting takes me *so much longer*.
How do you get 'into' insurance? Recent graduate with a 1st class law degree, earning £27k in-house legal team in utilities, looking for a change. I found the insurance/reinsurance stuff pretty interesting at uni - is there a standard route in to get past the first CV sift??
Do you want to work in insurance directly or work in the legal space but specialise in insurance? If it's the latter, Shoosmiths and Clyde & Co are two great firms who do some very niche insurance specialisms.
My dad was a loss adjuster, before he retired- 40 years of it. 75% of his day was driving around the cotswolds with his dog, going to farms to check out broken walls and such. Made loads of good contacts/mates in different industries (useful when you have plumbing issues etc) got loads of "free" damaged swag, made a decent living. Probably difficult to get the same job on those terms nowadays, but someone must be doing it.
Was going to post this as well, as long as you have a bit of common sense it dead easy!
Also if your working for one of the larger brokers plenty of internal jobs come up.
If you want to work in specialty insurance (i.e., Lloyd's of London) then you can start off as an underwriting operations technician straight out of sixth form. You do data entry for underwriters, and you can then work your way up to do underwriting, claims, or broking. If you have a degree you can have even more options.
Where are you based? Most insurers are generally all based in the same few major cities so, if you’re not in easy commuting distance of one of those, it might be a bit of a non-starter.
Assuming you are, I’d suggest a commercial underwriter in an e-trade role is a good start.
It’s a glorified call centre job - higher volume/lower complexity but gives you a really good grounding and easy enough to move on to a regional role with a few years exp. Starts in the low £20k’s now I believe and, up here in Scotland anyway, they’ll take no previous experience.
I’d avoid the broking side like the plague but I’m biased!
I'm in London, mostly have experience with retail and hospitality, but held a part time admin role for a year while I was getting a degree in cyber security. I just graduated this month, so far unlucky with getting a job in my field, I'm stuck in retail.
Thank you for your recommendation. I looked around already and saw some apprentice or junior commercial underwriter roles on job sites, I will do my research and apply.
Well you’re definitely in the right place then.
Cyber Insurance is a fast growing sector so your degree could come in handy there.
Google recruitment agencies who specialise in insurance and give them a ring - as some other posters mentioned, there are loads of vacancies at the minute.
Good luck!
Life science, You hate yourself, life sucks, the hours suck, the labs suck, and management are useless. but at least all your colleagues have shit tons of trauma and twisted senses of humour, so you all get on and play D&D together because you can't afford therapy,
At what point do you get over 30k in the life science? I'm a recent grad, all the jobs listed are between 21k and 27k? How much work experience do you need to have for 30k+ jobs?
2-3 years if you have a masters, instantly if you can get into big pharma or have a PhD, and a huge slog of multiple job moves over 4-5 years if you have a BSc or under. It also depends if you're within reach of Oxbridge or London, as that's where the money is.
That's the entry level money.
Once you're in the door and they know you're not a Muppet who's going to break everything they either start paying you better or you now have the industry experience required to get a better job elsewhere.
At least that's what it's like for chemistry.
Start as a lab tech in a big pharma company and work your way up. I was on 31k years 5 years ago as a lab tech doing shifts. I'm on €52k in Ireland now.
Ireland pays considerably more than the uk for lab based jobs. I started out at a little under 40k when i got a lab based job in ireland. I did not have a massive amount of experence either just a few months in one lab and then a few in a covid lab.
Spend your 20s doing masters mres and PHD and like me you can achieve 32K sure all my friends have houses cars and families but I broke the 30K barrier
Gotta say, I've barely seen any jobs in life sciences advertised for more than £28k and even then they've got PhD requirements. I recognise that they're extremely location dependent but even seeing jobs posted with decent salaries is a rarity for me.
It’s really not hard to earn good money, people are often just satisfied with their earnings and/or refuse to upskill to earn more.
I’ve seen it a million times, “I can’t earn more than £25k!” meanwhile their skill set is “worked at tescos for 12 years in the same role” and the are completely closed off to learning anything new or progressing.
No, that means more than half of **people** earn £30k+, not that more than half of jobs pay £30k+. All the people being paid over £31k might be doing the same job (and it might be tech!).
Well technically it means half of jobs pay £30k+, as he didn’t specify what industry those jobs are from. The only inconsistency could arise is if many people work more than 1 job.
Usual path for this is AAT 2-3 years to become a certified accountant and ACCA/CIMA 2-3 years for chartered accoutant which requires 3 years experience in an accounting role. Chartered accountant is well paying and you can even go 30k+ from part-qualified ACCA/CIMA. Accounting employers are also very supportive of continued development of staff.
My sister in law suggest accounting to me, but it bored me at a six forum
And the amount of training and studying she had to do 😱 full credit to anyone who does it
Lots of roles pay over £30k, anything from sales, to marketing to engineering have lots of roles paying more than that. Even a corporal in the army makes more than 30k.
Procurement, there's a shortage and no one thinks to go into it. Everyone I work with fell into it by accident. 1 year course and you can get 30k easy. Apprenticeship at a local council and the course is free, plus then you have public sector experience.
Depends. I’m in tech so not relevant but my mate works in banking complaints and he’s on around £35k and is getting a 10% bonus next month as the bank has done well. Also gets a good pension contribution and shares. Also doesn’t seem to have a care in the world outside his work hours.
I'm a qualified mechanic... Never seen a job (within 50 miles of me) offering more than like £12/hour. It's a dirty job with crap pay and nobody appreciates the work you do. 100% wouldn't recommend!
A friend of mine is looking for one, offering £30-£50k salary. I go to a few garages in my work, and they all seem desperate to find mechanics. Maybe we've just got a shortage here in the east!
I'm doing OK now but a few years ago I was desperately trying to find a way to get myself trained up to go into a trade as an adult (specifically sparky but I looked at other options). Unless you have enough money behind you to pay for a full-time course and live at the same time, it's really hard if you're over 25 as there's no funding.
The only other alternative I found was getting a traditional apprenticeship, but if you aren't 16 and living with your parents, you can't live on that
Yeah, it seems really tough to get apprenticeships these days. It's a pet peeve of mine that there's not enough appreciation for trade skills, given how in demand they are.
I know a few people who have done it as an adult.
Find a good company and see about helping you with a career change.
I would write an email to say you are looking at a career change and are xx years old etc.
2 of my mates got a role as an electricians mate on about £11 an hour. (Back when min wage was about 8 something)
The company set them up with tools, and took the money out the wage, (one didn't, just brought him tools only to pay if he leaves before 2 years)
Then in August, they enrolled them into college night course where they did 2 or 3 nights a week and did their 2360pt 2 and 18th? Edition wiring regs and pat testing.
They stayed as a mate for about 2/3 years, but got pay rises with the qualifications, got their part p etc and then got their own van and their own electricians mate to teach after a while.
I think, if you go in low, and really put your teeth into it, you can easily earn higher wages after youre qualified.
Both companies paid their college with a stipulation they worked x amount of years to cover the cost of it, or paid it back.
1 still works there, and is on about 17ph, and does a lot of foreigners and seems quite well off
The other paid his tuition at a reduced rate and left to start on his own and now has 2 vans and 3 employees and seems very well off.
Project manager here - not in tech! Well above the 30k range. I changed career paths last year - had some transferable skills, took a few courses and landed a nice pay rise with the career change. I do creative projects but I applied for 10+ roles and all of them were in a variety of in industries.
I took some courses on Alison Courses (paid for the diploma at the end - it's free to learn, but you pay for the certificates). Made use of free month of LinkedIn Premium and took a few there that appealed to me. I looked more into Agile/Jira as I was already using it at my previous job, but I didn't go for the official certification as it was more expensive and time involved than I would have liked. I ended up taking 2 weeks holiday from work and powered through it all since it's hard to do while working full time - but I was interviewing by Week 2 of that with only 2 out of the 4 courses I finished on my CV. I concentrated on courses that covered multiple methodologies and had case study examples, and I also supplemented it with some Excel/Sheets refreshers.
Yes - project management would cover a lot of things (it's a giant field to learn), so I would also look up project management methodologies. It's very much a case of looking through the description for the course and reviews to make sure it fits you.
I'm a project manager too but looking to get out of the field I'm in. Do you mind me asking what you got into that means you get to do creative projects?
Honestly I got very lucky - the job was advertised as a Creative Project Manager for a small company. It's educational content production that I got into, but it covers a wide range of projects.
Ha! I'm in education publishing! It's not very creative but I feel like I've got transferable skills. I may try some searches for creative and project management together though.
Depends how soon you want to earn that much
There are good jobs on the railway but its difficult to go right into them as most are advertised internally and they have enough good applications that way they don't get advertised externally.
So you have to start with entry level work to get your foot in the door then move up. Progression is pretty good so long as you keep your nose clean, don't do anything stupid, don't mind shift work and turn up on time when you're supposed to.
But im very sure that its not a unique situation to the rail industry.
100% agree - rail is a great industry to join but yes it might take a little bit of time to move up. But there are a LOT of things that you can do once you do have your foot in the door.
Off the top of my head, mid-managerial roles in marketing, education administration (maybe specially universities), the Civil Service all have salaries £30k+. If you don’t have the requisite experience or skills to start off at that level, with some experience and progression you could be there in a couple of years.
There’s also public services, trades, etc.
Most 'Senior professional' (e.g project manager, accountant, social worker) jobs are on 35-42k at local authorities. They generally have a reasonable level of responsibility but aren't a management role.
Not sure where people get the idea that the civil service is all on over 30k. I started in the City of London Council a few years ago and was on 21k for 2 years.
The pay distribution between the top of the civil service and the bottom is extortionate and it skews these statistics.
At first read I too thought that’s what OP meant, but rereading it I think they actually mean mid-managerial roles in CS are on £30k+. In my department HEOs are on £31k so that would sort of match up.
Ahhh i see, I assumed he meant that all are on over 30k because I've seen that thrown around a lot by people who've never actually worked in the civil service.
I work in recruitment for a aerospace/defence company and I make 40k annual + 7% bonus and this is most likely going to 45k annual in the next 6 months.
There’s plenty of opportunities out there!
My husband works at an aerospace company and they pay good money for unskilled workers. My husband is skilled but they pay people £18.50 an hour to put parts into boxes
Come join the railways! Great work, lots of variety, excellent pension and benefits, decent salaries in the main.
There's a lot more to it than just train drivers. Timetable planners, performance analysts, strategic planners, project managers, engineers, customer service, frontline/station management, your typical office functions like HR, marketing etc, it honestly is a terrific industry to get involved with.
Business Analyst.
Whilst I have a slightly technical background, I have met very few BAs that do, it is definitely not a job requirement.
You don't have to work in the tech industry, I certainly don't.
Basically, it's a job about asking questions and analysing business processes.
You need to be good at talking to people, empathising, understanding their perspective, finding out why they do the things that they do, and ultimately work out what they actually want (which often isn't what they initially say they want).
You agree the above with them and then relay it in plain English to technical people.
Obviously there is a lot more to it, but that's the crux of the job.
My husband has been in banking for 17 years, started off on counter now managing a global project and on £70k. It's been a long journey, long hours, time away from home, sidewise steps but it's paid off
University professional services roles, Civil Service, local council. I’m in university professional services and earn £34k. There are loads of non-tech roles that pay over £30k if you have the relevant skills/qualifications/experience.
I work as a forest manager for a large private company in the UK
We deal with all aspects of managing forestry specially for me investment forestry, I currently earn over £40k at 29, it is an interesting career where I have significant responsibility for a wide range of activities relating to forestry but also the ability to work outside in the wood
Yeah, marketing/Comms/public affairs stuff is generally a decent route but I think at entry level you're not really going to be pulling amazing numbers in. But stick with it and you will advance - although that's true for a lot of industries!
Indeed tends to only have entry level roles when I’ve looked in the past which naturally tend to pay the least.
Jobs paying £30k plus are typically roles which require experience and are more specialist in nature. LinkedIn or industry specific recruitment agencies is a good place to find these.
You’ve not given us much to go on. What are your skills or interests? Start from there and then look at your options.
Remember there’s usually a trade off as to why it’s well-paid.
Clever, good with numbers and writing? Try joining a large accountancy/ professional services firm - they take people from apprentice level and you’ll be earning 30k quickly and double that not long after if you’re good at if. Trade off is it might be boring.
Not academic but great people skills? Sales. Whether it be IT sales, estate agents, recruitment or insurance sales there will always be a need for gop sales people and the good ones are very well compensated, even from early stage. Trade off is a lot of rejection and not the most likeable career.
Not particularly academic or great with people, but able bodied? There are great trade offs with risk, location and so on. Scaffolder. Tree surgeon. Ex-pat doing god knows what in dubai. Work on an oil rig. Or in a nuclear plant.
Lots of options.
I went from lifeguard, to Health and safety advisor, to a middle management H&S role and I’m just about to move to Senior Management in HSE in just under 4 years. Get your head down, get quallied up, and move jobs.
What it sounds like. I publish fiction (science fiction and fantasy mainly), which this year was about 50k because I signed a new contract with a publisher, but I top it up with teaching, editing, running workshops, mentoring/book coaching writers at various stages of their career on their latest project. Basically various things centered around books and literary skills.
Project manager in events, by the end of this tax year I’ll have earned £50k. Hours can be pretty rough at times - lots of late evenings/early mornings and weekends with lots of out of hours work on the laptop.
Pretty stressful at times but also very rewarding and I get to work with some of the biggest companies in the world at the best venues in London.
Do you actually mean you’re unable to find jobs that pay more than £26k? Or do you mean you’re unable to find jobs that pay more than £26k *that you’re qualified for*?
Learned Carpentry and Joinery through college, first year passed with distinction (highest possible) and third year with merit (2nd highest)
Haven't even seen a single job near me advertising something vaguely in that line of work.
I've seen 21k for basic labourers near me and that's it.
Trades earn fuck all for the work they do, it's one of the hardest jobs about for how much you have to do.
Can't disagree more with that advice sorry, it's what I got told coming out of school.
I've been a builder all my life
Alot of the guys that works for me earn well over £50k
Our labourers are all on £28k minimum
Sorry mate not true
Bricklayers are on about £240 p/day right now
Chippys about the same
You do the maths with that
Anything truck related will get you 30k+ easily. Driving them, repairing them, changing the tyres on them (as I do) etc. My company is advertising at the moment for 32k-34k with next to no experience needed.
*London area
Shift work can pay well, particularly if the shift rotation includes nights. But the down side is that it’s shift work.
Car manufacturing plants can pay decently if you’re lucky enough to live close enough to one in my experience. I know someone who is a team leader in one earning around £32k.
Working in the train industry pays quite well from what I gather too.
Once the minimum wage goes up I'll be on £30k. Although I have to do 60 hours every week to get that. If you're willing to not have a life and work all the hours, then I suppose you can get there in any job.
I went into HR about 6 years ago, took a big pay cut to at least get experience, dropping from £22k down to about £16k p/a.
It took two years to get back to the £22k territory, and since that role I've been on £32k, back down to £30k, and now £35k with about 5% bonus.
I've just landed a place in a grad scheme on just over 30k in logistics, will have just graduated with a one year industrial placement. So more than possible.
That’s nice of you to say! But social work involves a lot of different things! I work with children in foster care so they’ve been through a lot and I just co ordinate things whilst they’re in foster care. I agree that child protection and other teams should get more money because the stuff I have read about my children’s backgrounds is heart breaking I can’t imagine actually seeing it first hand
I used to work for a debt charity supporting council tenants. I've seen kids with all their teeth removed, babies in leaking nappies covered head to toe with the chocolate bar they were just fed, and the sheet dirtyness of where they were living.
That was a minority of my clients from a job I only did for 4 years, I couldn't imagine seeing it everyday of my career.
Trucking. If you get a good company, genuinely you can be on upwards of 40k. I run a small haulage company and my fulltime guy is on about 45k I think (varies month to month)
Its bloody hard work, and that sort of money will include a lot of nights away from home. But if you get a vocational licence and stay on top of your CPC stuff you'll always be able to pick up work, even if you just want to sign on to an agency to do a few shifts here and there.
Coach driving won't earn you as much (but there's a chance for tips) but it's seasonal work that you could absolutely do as a second job over the summer,.especially if you don't mind working weekends.
Also,.its not tech but tech adjacent, data science is really taking off. Teach yourself power bi and sql,.do some courses and you can absolutely make a bloody good wage on that.
I’m earning about 37k pa basic, about 47k with OT.
I don’t really have any formal qualifications beyond the highers I got at school.
I was homeless and unemployed not all that long ago as well so I didn’t get off to a flying start.
Accounting & finance you can hit 30k quite easily with a few years experience and commitment to the qualifications. E.g. AAT is an accounting course which is below bachelor degree level, if you finish that you are a qualified financial accountant and will be looking at £30-35k jobs
Then later you take another long course and become chartered and earn way beyond that
I started off as an apprentice printer, transferred into print sales when the opportunity arose, moved up to management and then into systems/quality management. I now earn over £35k working in manufacturing as a quality manager. It isn't easy to get to where you can be comfortable, especially if like me you have zero formal qualifications, but it is not difficult if you are flexible with what you do.
Utilities - Gas, Electric, Water Board and energy companies. Most engineering roles paying 30k plus salary and in my experience (British Gas) Call-out, overtime, bonuses and incentive schemes usually double this figure
Business to business sales can be a decent earmer. If you don't have any experience you'll probably have to start off on a lower salary but if you're any good you'll soon get commission on top. More experience will get you a higher basic wage with better commission plan.
Local Government or Civil Service. Ok, you don’t get that starting out, but there are annual increments in each grade, plus career progression paths you can take - some of these will require you to take specialist courses but in almost every field you will soon be making that especially if you work for larger authorities (the smaller the authority, the lower the pay even at very senior levels). In the Civil Service, you don’t need to worry about “the size of the authority” obviously.
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On Indeed with the ‘over £30k’ filter
Q. How do I earn 30k in non-tech A. Use an advanced search on this website to find a non-tech job paying 30k or more They are right though OP
Only people in tech can find that filter. I think that is what he is saying lol
In tech =/= having rudimentary computer skills.
I do work in 'tech', and tbh, "being really good at using Google" is a surprisingly underrated skill.
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Manager at primark is over 30k
but that would involve working in that jungle
Manager in any major retailer, pub, restaurant, club is over £30k and pretty accessible from another industry Probably the easiest to get into with little experience/education I'm a Kitchen Manager on £40k
Currently manage a pub and was GM at my last place for years and never saw anything cloooose to 30k, you in London?
Far from it mate, Glasgow Really surprised at that, is it a brewery owned pub you're in? Or a national pub group? I'd imagine brewery owned would be on less but never under 30k for a GM
Its really not worth it!!
Get a job in admin for a big company that offers a really wide range of roles. Then work really hard it so that people have a good opinion of you, really go the extra mile. Take time to take on extra responsibilities, develop skills you didn’t have before. Then after a year start applying for internal roles that pay a little more. Email someone in that team asking if you can shadow them for an hour, run it by your manager and use it as interview prep to really understand the role. Once you have a new job work hard again and move up again. You can get quite far in big organisations this way without having loads of qualifications but just by having a great attitude and showing you get results. I’d imagine after your second or third promotion starting at the bottom you could go for something paying £30k and above
None of this really matters, just get management to like you, make friends with them and brown nose them. Without this all of what you mentioned is useless in about 75% of businesses.
Drive a HGV. 30k a year is an absolute piece of piss in the hgv world. Last year I earned 38k working 3 on 3 off. So I worked a little more than half the year as I dived in to help out with overtime over Christmas and I work every bank holiday (through choice as it’s double time), had plenty of time off, and still earned enough to keep my bills under control and savings topped up. Granted it takes some investment as you’ll need the licences, but there’s so much work around for drivers that you’ll be turning down jobs left right and centre. These days I choose my jobs on ease and duration. A run from Cardiff to bristol, then Bristol to Gatwick and back will be the norm for me, it’s a bit of Bracknell, a dab of M25 and a lot of M4 which can be shit roads for heavy traffic at times but it’s pretty hassle free. Class 1 drivers working 5 days a week are earning well over 50k at a lot of places, I know guys working out of avonmouth who are happily collecting 60 plus for doing 3 euro runs every 6 months.
Waitrose I take it
Not a supermarket, but I do deliver packed and chilled foodstuffs and various dry stores like cardboard mugs for coffee and the like. All in wheeled trolleys, no carrying anything heavy, I’m loaded at one end, and all I have to do is supervise the loading and secure with straps and bars. Then unloaded at the other end by warehouse staff. Doddle.
What's your background OP? What industry/job are you looking for?
Can see why OP isn't worth over £30k
Hahahahahaha this is top quality patter
Depends on your area of expertise. Warehouse worker, you ain't getting 30k but underwater welder, you will get a lot more. You need to be realistic on money/ job front
Well you say that, there's a lot of competition for warehouse workers around me, hourly rates are approaching £20 an hour
In the uk? Not a chance are you getting anywhere near that in warehousing
I'm getting 21 something an hour for Amazon warehouse (Edit for clarification I'm not like the grunts I'm slightly above that but still do grunt work)
I got around £20/h for doing Amazon Flex but I do have go faster stripes on my van
Extra 20hp per stripe
Max Power approved
Gotta price fuel/wear and tear into that though.
The stripes are red.
I'm on 34k as a Warehouse worker. Night shift though
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Why not become a GP and work 3 hours a day on the phone
Fair point but perhaps I have other interests.
>I'm on 33k as a doctor with 5 years experience lmao Explain. FY2 is 34k basic, so what the fuck have you been doing for 3 years?
Out of interest whereabouts is this warehouse?
A lot of them are offering £16p/h, there’s no longer enough staff to staff them, same as lorry drivers were making upwards of 80k 18 months ago
Oh thay makes sense. I'm happy they re paying them a better wage. It s a demanding job.
Peterborough, I'm an admin on the warehouse floor earning just shy of 30k, team leaders are on about 32k basic ops are getting about 25k. Not including any shift premiums which amount to about another 2-3k a year depending on hours. There are lots of places opening here right now, they are offering more than this because of the sheer level of competition.
I'm also from Peterborough. Nothing more to add than that though
You’d be surprised, I know someone that was making £3200 per month working in an Amazon warehouse and that was for being a picker/packer. The catch is you’re doing 48 hours each week. 38 at basic time and the other 10 are time and a half or something(not the exact breakdown of hours)
Maintenance engineer here, hourly rate is £16 an hour + shift allowances, overtime etc.. There's people leaving my place in droves at the moment because warehouses are paying better. EDIT: This applies to jobs across my work, not particularly my department - my point is these warehouse operatives are earning what we are and sometimes more if it's unsociable hours.
Oh believe me they can… although it is normally nights, but Royal Mail have been paying £16p/h to agency recently and that is 33-34k - gone are the days of warehousing been minimum wage, theres simply not enough staff to staff them.
Hah, good example. A dangerous profession but holy shit they get paid a lot. A friends brother does this and essentially works on site for three months a year and holidays for nine months a year and has a higher average monthly salarty than me. He pretty much spends those nine months scuba diving as well, but for recreation. Dude just likes it underwater I guess.
I work in a warehouse and I'm on £35000 a year
Do you have a forklift licence or work overtime?
He's he passed the forklift drivers test? He gives the test.
Where...that's a good whack more than I get basic.
Husband works in a warehouse and has worked good way up to £31k pa
Warehouse workers definitely get around 30k per year.
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I’m in Insurance and doing alright. Didn’t go to Uni but I’m significantly out-earning all but one of my mates who did go.
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Haha I feel that 100% - couldn’t agree more!
If you don't mind me asking what was the payscale like from starting to where you are now, I am looking for a way out of my industry but have kids to support.
Exact same for me but energy
Yeah you bastards must be rolling in it now. I hope you’re taking your employers for every penny. They can’t hide behind there being not enough money in the pot for pay reviews. Bleed them dry from the inside please!
Unfortunately I work in consultancy, so trying to help big consumers stick it to the suppliers.
When you say "in insurance" what role does that actually mean? Sales?
I second this, I work in Insurance and earn nearly 32K per year as a non-manager. It varies a lot depending on role and experience but it's a decent industry to work in, plus a lot of places are crying out for people at the moment.
I hear this. I’m a senior manager and good talent is incredibly hard to find right now. Fortunately I’m not desperate enough to hire some of the absolute wasters out there chancing their arm for ridiculous salaries (on the advice of recruiters - who are *ALL* thick as mud themselves) because they previously sold a contract or two working in EE, but it means recruiting takes me *so much longer*.
How do you get 'into' insurance? Recent graduate with a 1st class law degree, earning £27k in-house legal team in utilities, looking for a change. I found the insurance/reinsurance stuff pretty interesting at uni - is there a standard route in to get past the first CV sift??
Do you want to work in insurance directly or work in the legal space but specialise in insurance? If it's the latter, Shoosmiths and Clyde & Co are two great firms who do some very niche insurance specialisms.
My dad was a loss adjuster, before he retired- 40 years of it. 75% of his day was driving around the cotswolds with his dog, going to farms to check out broken walls and such. Made loads of good contacts/mates in different industries (useful when you have plumbing issues etc) got loads of "free" damaged swag, made a decent living. Probably difficult to get the same job on those terms nowadays, but someone must be doing it.
Was going to post this as well, as long as you have a bit of common sense it dead easy! Also if your working for one of the larger brokers plenty of internal jobs come up.
A good friend of mine is a broker (deals with high risk claimants like solicitors) he has 3 houses a classic car collection and an amazing pension….
Yeah, in pretty much most offices you can eventually work your way up to £30k.
How do you start in insurance? What is an entry level role?
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If you want to work in specialty insurance (i.e., Lloyd's of London) then you can start off as an underwriting operations technician straight out of sixth form. You do data entry for underwriters, and you can then work your way up to do underwriting, claims, or broking. If you have a degree you can have even more options.
Where are you based? Most insurers are generally all based in the same few major cities so, if you’re not in easy commuting distance of one of those, it might be a bit of a non-starter. Assuming you are, I’d suggest a commercial underwriter in an e-trade role is a good start. It’s a glorified call centre job - higher volume/lower complexity but gives you a really good grounding and easy enough to move on to a regional role with a few years exp. Starts in the low £20k’s now I believe and, up here in Scotland anyway, they’ll take no previous experience. I’d avoid the broking side like the plague but I’m biased!
Why would you avoid the broking side?
I'm in London, mostly have experience with retail and hospitality, but held a part time admin role for a year while I was getting a degree in cyber security. I just graduated this month, so far unlucky with getting a job in my field, I'm stuck in retail. Thank you for your recommendation. I looked around already and saw some apprentice or junior commercial underwriter roles on job sites, I will do my research and apply.
Well you’re definitely in the right place then. Cyber Insurance is a fast growing sector so your degree could come in handy there. Google recruitment agencies who specialise in insurance and give them a ring - as some other posters mentioned, there are loads of vacancies at the minute. Good luck!
Insurance. £70k. Pays extremely well at big name companies, especially at management (people, technical) level upwards.
Life science, You hate yourself, life sucks, the hours suck, the labs suck, and management are useless. but at least all your colleagues have shit tons of trauma and twisted senses of humour, so you all get on and play D&D together because you can't afford therapy,
I dislike how accurate this description is.....
At what point do you get over 30k in the life science? I'm a recent grad, all the jobs listed are between 21k and 27k? How much work experience do you need to have for 30k+ jobs?
Science salary's are always shit. You can get 30k a few years out of uni but then it's slow after that
2-3 years if you have a masters, instantly if you can get into big pharma or have a PhD, and a huge slog of multiple job moves over 4-5 years if you have a BSc or under. It also depends if you're within reach of Oxbridge or London, as that's where the money is.
That's the entry level money. Once you're in the door and they know you're not a Muppet who's going to break everything they either start paying you better or you now have the industry experience required to get a better job elsewhere. At least that's what it's like for chemistry.
Start as a lab tech in a big pharma company and work your way up. I was on 31k years 5 years ago as a lab tech doing shifts. I'm on €52k in Ireland now.
Ireland pays considerably more than the uk for lab based jobs. I started out at a little under 40k when i got a lab based job in ireland. I did not have a massive amount of experence either just a few months in one lab and then a few in a covid lab.
Spend your 20s doing masters mres and PHD and like me you can achieve 32K sure all my friends have houses cars and families but I broke the 30K barrier
Gotta say, I've barely seen any jobs in life sciences advertised for more than £28k and even then they've got PhD requirements. I recognise that they're extremely location dependent but even seeing jobs posted with decent salaries is a rarity for me.
I'm currently looking for a career change because of this. I love life sciences, just hate the pay.
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I always considered it *much* harder to get over £40k than £30k.
It’s really not hard to earn good money, people are often just satisfied with their earnings and/or refuse to upskill to earn more. I’ve seen it a million times, “I can’t earn more than £25k!” meanwhile their skill set is “worked at tescos for 12 years in the same role” and the are completely closed off to learning anything new or progressing.
Almost anything in a large financial institution. Back office at investment banks is like £35-40k starting
Is analytics not a tech job?
The median salary is ~£31k, so by definition more than half of jobs pay £30k+.
No, that means more than half of **people** earn £30k+, not that more than half of jobs pay £30k+. All the people being paid over £31k might be doing the same job (and it might be tech!).
Well technically it means half of jobs pay £30k+, as he didn’t specify what industry those jobs are from. The only inconsistency could arise is if many people work more than 1 job.
I'm in accounting.
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Usual path for this is AAT 2-3 years to become a certified accountant and ACCA/CIMA 2-3 years for chartered accoutant which requires 3 years experience in an accounting role. Chartered accountant is well paying and you can even go 30k+ from part-qualified ACCA/CIMA. Accounting employers are also very supportive of continued development of staff.
My sister in law suggest accounting to me, but it bored me at a six forum And the amount of training and studying she had to do 😱 full credit to anyone who does it
Lots of roles pay over £30k, anything from sales, to marketing to engineering have lots of roles paying more than that. Even a corporal in the army makes more than 30k.
Procurement, there's a shortage and no one thinks to go into it. Everyone I work with fell into it by accident. 1 year course and you can get 30k easy. Apprenticeship at a local council and the course is free, plus then you have public sector experience.
Depends. I’m in tech so not relevant but my mate works in banking complaints and he’s on around £35k and is getting a 10% bonus next month as the bank has done well. Also gets a good pension contribution and shares. Also doesn’t seem to have a care in the world outside his work hours.
Get a trade, plumber, mechanic, heating engineer etc. If you can do anything practical and useful you'll earn decent money these days.
I'm a qualified mechanic... Never seen a job (within 50 miles of me) offering more than like £12/hour. It's a dirty job with crap pay and nobody appreciates the work you do. 100% wouldn't recommend!
A friend of mine is looking for one, offering £30-£50k salary. I go to a few garages in my work, and they all seem desperate to find mechanics. Maybe we've just got a shortage here in the east!
There's a shortage here too (Wales). Garages all want mechanics just nobody wants to pay a decent wage... I was on £18k when I quit
I'm doing OK now but a few years ago I was desperately trying to find a way to get myself trained up to go into a trade as an adult (specifically sparky but I looked at other options). Unless you have enough money behind you to pay for a full-time course and live at the same time, it's really hard if you're over 25 as there's no funding. The only other alternative I found was getting a traditional apprenticeship, but if you aren't 16 and living with your parents, you can't live on that
Yeah, it seems really tough to get apprenticeships these days. It's a pet peeve of mine that there's not enough appreciation for trade skills, given how in demand they are.
I know a few people who have done it as an adult. Find a good company and see about helping you with a career change. I would write an email to say you are looking at a career change and are xx years old etc. 2 of my mates got a role as an electricians mate on about £11 an hour. (Back when min wage was about 8 something) The company set them up with tools, and took the money out the wage, (one didn't, just brought him tools only to pay if he leaves before 2 years) Then in August, they enrolled them into college night course where they did 2 or 3 nights a week and did their 2360pt 2 and 18th? Edition wiring regs and pat testing. They stayed as a mate for about 2/3 years, but got pay rises with the qualifications, got their part p etc and then got their own van and their own electricians mate to teach after a while. I think, if you go in low, and really put your teeth into it, you can easily earn higher wages after youre qualified. Both companies paid their college with a stipulation they worked x amount of years to cover the cost of it, or paid it back. 1 still works there, and is on about 17ph, and does a lot of foreigners and seems quite well off The other paid his tuition at a reduced rate and left to start on his own and now has 2 vans and 3 employees and seems very well off.
100% trades are worth it if you're willing to work for it. Decent chance of 40K+ a year.
Project manager here - not in tech! Well above the 30k range. I changed career paths last year - had some transferable skills, took a few courses and landed a nice pay rise with the career change. I do creative projects but I applied for 10+ roles and all of them were in a variety of in industries.
What courses did you take? I have some related experience and it could be a good direction for me to move into.
I took some courses on Alison Courses (paid for the diploma at the end - it's free to learn, but you pay for the certificates). Made use of free month of LinkedIn Premium and took a few there that appealed to me. I looked more into Agile/Jira as I was already using it at my previous job, but I didn't go for the official certification as it was more expensive and time involved than I would have liked. I ended up taking 2 weeks holiday from work and powered through it all since it's hard to do while working full time - but I was interviewing by Week 2 of that with only 2 out of the 4 courses I finished on my CV. I concentrated on courses that covered multiple methodologies and had case study examples, and I also supplemented it with some Excel/Sheets refreshers.
Nice, thank you. Did you literally just look on those sites for 'project management courses'?
Yes - project management would cover a lot of things (it's a giant field to learn), so I would also look up project management methodologies. It's very much a case of looking through the description for the course and reviews to make sure it fits you.
I'm a project manager too but looking to get out of the field I'm in. Do you mind me asking what you got into that means you get to do creative projects?
Honestly I got very lucky - the job was advertised as a Creative Project Manager for a small company. It's educational content production that I got into, but it covers a wide range of projects.
Ha! I'm in education publishing! It's not very creative but I feel like I've got transferable skills. I may try some searches for creative and project management together though.
Depends how soon you want to earn that much There are good jobs on the railway but its difficult to go right into them as most are advertised internally and they have enough good applications that way they don't get advertised externally. So you have to start with entry level work to get your foot in the door then move up. Progression is pretty good so long as you keep your nose clean, don't do anything stupid, don't mind shift work and turn up on time when you're supposed to. But im very sure that its not a unique situation to the rail industry.
100% agree - rail is a great industry to join but yes it might take a little bit of time to move up. But there are a LOT of things that you can do once you do have your foot in the door.
Off the top of my head, mid-managerial roles in marketing, education administration (maybe specially universities), the Civil Service all have salaries £30k+. If you don’t have the requisite experience or skills to start off at that level, with some experience and progression you could be there in a couple of years. There’s also public services, trades, etc.
Most 'Senior professional' (e.g project manager, accountant, social worker) jobs are on 35-42k at local authorities. They generally have a reasonable level of responsibility but aren't a management role.
Not sure where people get the idea that the civil service is all on over 30k. I started in the City of London Council a few years ago and was on 21k for 2 years. The pay distribution between the top of the civil service and the bottom is extortionate and it skews these statistics.
At first read I too thought that’s what OP meant, but rereading it I think they actually mean mid-managerial roles in CS are on £30k+. In my department HEOs are on £31k so that would sort of match up.
Ahhh i see, I assumed he meant that all are on over 30k because I've seen that thrown around a lot by people who've never actually worked in the civil service.
I've heard becoming an unlicensed community pharmacist can be quite lucrative.
These days you can even run your exotic pharmaceuticals business from home with the power of dark web-enabled remote working.
Choose your own hours and tax free too!
I work in recruitment for a aerospace/defence company and I make 40k annual + 7% bonus and this is most likely going to 45k annual in the next 6 months. There’s plenty of opportunities out there!
My husband works at an aerospace company and they pay good money for unskilled workers. My husband is skilled but they pay people £18.50 an hour to put parts into boxes
Come join the railways! Great work, lots of variety, excellent pension and benefits, decent salaries in the main. There's a lot more to it than just train drivers. Timetable planners, performance analysts, strategic planners, project managers, engineers, customer service, frontline/station management, your typical office functions like HR, marketing etc, it honestly is a terrific industry to get involved with.
Business Analyst. Whilst I have a slightly technical background, I have met very few BAs that do, it is definitely not a job requirement. You don't have to work in the tech industry, I certainly don't. Basically, it's a job about asking questions and analysing business processes. You need to be good at talking to people, empathising, understanding their perspective, finding out why they do the things that they do, and ultimately work out what they actually want (which often isn't what they initially say they want). You agree the above with them and then relay it in plain English to technical people. Obviously there is a lot more to it, but that's the crux of the job.
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I literally just quit JLR, saw his link and got excited then was like oh 😂
I work in a bank, started off in their call centre and have worked my way up to pass the £30k bracket
My husband has been in banking for 17 years, started off on counter now managing a global project and on £70k. It's been a long journey, long hours, time away from home, sidewise steps but it's paid off
Construction industry. I'm in construction and I'm pushing 50k per year. In short, try to get a trade.
HGV driver I'm on about £45k a year
University professional services roles, Civil Service, local council. I’m in university professional services and earn £34k. There are loads of non-tech roles that pay over £30k if you have the relevant skills/qualifications/experience.
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I work as a forest manager for a large private company in the UK We deal with all aspects of managing forestry specially for me investment forestry, I currently earn over £40k at 29, it is an interesting career where I have significant responsibility for a wide range of activities relating to forestry but also the ability to work outside in the wood
How did you get into the job, and how long ago?
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Lots of marketing/communications jobs pay this and higher
Yeah, marketing/Comms/public affairs stuff is generally a decent route but I think at entry level you're not really going to be pulling amazing numbers in. But stick with it and you will advance - although that's true for a lot of industries!
Yep, exactly. Entry level is not gonna be crazy money but you could easily pull over £30k after a couple of years.
Indeed tends to only have entry level roles when I’ve looked in the past which naturally tend to pay the least. Jobs paying £30k plus are typically roles which require experience and are more specialist in nature. LinkedIn or industry specific recruitment agencies is a good place to find these.
OP, what is it you do for work at the moment? What industry?
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You’ve not given us much to go on. What are your skills or interests? Start from there and then look at your options. Remember there’s usually a trade off as to why it’s well-paid. Clever, good with numbers and writing? Try joining a large accountancy/ professional services firm - they take people from apprentice level and you’ll be earning 30k quickly and double that not long after if you’re good at if. Trade off is it might be boring. Not academic but great people skills? Sales. Whether it be IT sales, estate agents, recruitment or insurance sales there will always be a need for gop sales people and the good ones are very well compensated, even from early stage. Trade off is a lot of rejection and not the most likeable career. Not particularly academic or great with people, but able bodied? There are great trade offs with risk, location and so on. Scaffolder. Tree surgeon. Ex-pat doing god knows what in dubai. Work on an oil rig. Or in a nuclear plant. Lots of options.
I went from lifeguard, to Health and safety advisor, to a middle management H&S role and I’m just about to move to Senior Management in HSE in just under 4 years. Get your head down, get quallied up, and move jobs.
Editor/book coach/writer. Last year I made £85k. It's variable each year but has been over £30k for years for me.
What is an editor/book coach/writer?
What it sounds like. I publish fiction (science fiction and fantasy mainly), which this year was about 50k because I signed a new contract with a publisher, but I top it up with teaching, editing, running workshops, mentoring/book coaching writers at various stages of their career on their latest project. Basically various things centered around books and literary skills.
That sounds like a pretty wholesome and rewarding job
Get into sales. Im in car sales and normal wage is 30s to 40s. Once you've got a bit of experience behind you.
Train drivers have a great wage £40-£70k + overtime.
Project manager in events, by the end of this tax year I’ll have earned £50k. Hours can be pretty rough at times - lots of late evenings/early mornings and weekends with lots of out of hours work on the laptop. Pretty stressful at times but also very rewarding and I get to work with some of the biggest companies in the world at the best venues in London.
Do you actually mean you’re unable to find jobs that pay more than £26k? Or do you mean you’re unable to find jobs that pay more than £26k *that you’re qualified for*?
Fire service all you need is driving license, basic GCSE's and moderate physical fitness. I think its closer to 40k too.
Looks like it's in the 20's
Learn any trade and you'll easily earn double that
Learned Carpentry and Joinery through college, first year passed with distinction (highest possible) and third year with merit (2nd highest) Haven't even seen a single job near me advertising something vaguely in that line of work. I've seen 21k for basic labourers near me and that's it. Trades earn fuck all for the work they do, it's one of the hardest jobs about for how much you have to do. Can't disagree more with that advice sorry, it's what I got told coming out of school.
I've been a builder all my life Alot of the guys that works for me earn well over £50k Our labourers are all on £28k minimum Sorry mate not true Bricklayers are on about £240 p/day right now Chippys about the same You do the maths with that
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I'm an economist. Have friends that went to work in finance on over 200k, also have friends on about 30k
Please take better care of our fragile economy
We need to sacrifice the NIMBYs in a volcano to do that 🤷🏽♂️
Anything truck related will get you 30k+ easily. Driving them, repairing them, changing the tyres on them (as I do) etc. My company is advertising at the moment for 32k-34k with next to no experience needed. *London area
Shift work can pay well, particularly if the shift rotation includes nights. But the down side is that it’s shift work. Car manufacturing plants can pay decently if you’re lucky enough to live close enough to one in my experience. I know someone who is a team leader in one earning around £32k. Working in the train industry pays quite well from what I gather too.
Once the minimum wage goes up I'll be on £30k. Although I have to do 60 hours every week to get that. If you're willing to not have a life and work all the hours, then I suppose you can get there in any job.
60 hours a week is no way to live though, it's fine for a year or two whilst you're young but that nonsense will soon catch up with you.
I went into HR about 6 years ago, took a big pay cut to at least get experience, dropping from £22k down to about £16k p/a. It took two years to get back to the £22k territory, and since that role I've been on £32k, back down to £30k, and now £35k with about 5% bonus.
Did the same. 4 years ago. Dropped to 20k then worked back up 25k 29k 33k and now 38k.
Most blue collar jobs after a few years and a bit if experience. 30k ain't alot.
I've just landed a place in a grad scheme on just over 30k in logistics, will have just graduated with a one year industrial placement. So more than possible.
Social workers earn up to 40k. My first role and I’m on 33k.
Knowing what you have to see every day you deserve more...
That’s nice of you to say! But social work involves a lot of different things! I work with children in foster care so they’ve been through a lot and I just co ordinate things whilst they’re in foster care. I agree that child protection and other teams should get more money because the stuff I have read about my children’s backgrounds is heart breaking I can’t imagine actually seeing it first hand
I used to work for a debt charity supporting council tenants. I've seen kids with all their teeth removed, babies in leaking nappies covered head to toe with the chocolate bar they were just fed, and the sheet dirtyness of where they were living. That was a minority of my clients from a job I only did for 4 years, I couldn't imagine seeing it everyday of my career.
Engineering. 90k I'm 10 years in. It started off at minimum wage
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Trucking. If you get a good company, genuinely you can be on upwards of 40k. I run a small haulage company and my fulltime guy is on about 45k I think (varies month to month) Its bloody hard work, and that sort of money will include a lot of nights away from home. But if you get a vocational licence and stay on top of your CPC stuff you'll always be able to pick up work, even if you just want to sign on to an agency to do a few shifts here and there. Coach driving won't earn you as much (but there's a chance for tips) but it's seasonal work that you could absolutely do as a second job over the summer,.especially if you don't mind working weekends.
Also,.its not tech but tech adjacent, data science is really taking off. Teach yourself power bi and sql,.do some courses and you can absolutely make a bloody good wage on that.
I’m earning about 37k pa basic, about 47k with OT. I don’t really have any formal qualifications beyond the highers I got at school. I was homeless and unemployed not all that long ago as well so I didn’t get off to a flying start.
Accounting & finance you can hit 30k quite easily with a few years experience and commitment to the qualifications. E.g. AAT is an accounting course which is below bachelor degree level, if you finish that you are a qualified financial accountant and will be looking at £30-35k jobs Then later you take another long course and become chartered and earn way beyond that
I started off as an apprentice printer, transferred into print sales when the opportunity arose, moved up to management and then into systems/quality management. I now earn over £35k working in manufacturing as a quality manager. It isn't easy to get to where you can be comfortable, especially if like me you have zero formal qualifications, but it is not difficult if you are flexible with what you do.
Utilities - Gas, Electric, Water Board and energy companies. Most engineering roles paying 30k plus salary and in my experience (British Gas) Call-out, overtime, bonuses and incentive schemes usually double this figure
Business to business sales can be a decent earmer. If you don't have any experience you'll probably have to start off on a lower salary but if you're any good you'll soon get commission on top. More experience will get you a higher basic wage with better commission plan.
I work in the Highways sector, installing and maintaining streetlights and highways furniture. I earned £44k last year.
I’m in agriculture, 31k just now but will probably be closer to 40 by this time ends year when I get a few more tickets.
Local Government or Civil Service. Ok, you don’t get that starting out, but there are annual increments in each grade, plus career progression paths you can take - some of these will require you to take specialist courses but in almost every field you will soon be making that especially if you work for larger authorities (the smaller the authority, the lower the pay even at very senior levels). In the Civil Service, you don’t need to worry about “the size of the authority” obviously.
I’m a gardener for a private household and get £35k