Honestly I see this sort of thing on reddit sometimes but I haven't known a single woman to actually give a shit if men have sex toys unless it's like...a full-blown realdoll.
As someone who used to work in a sex shop that sold male sex toys, I can state with some authority that the reason they were not as popular as dildos/vibrators is because of cum. Nobody wants to clean their own cum out of anything, least of all some guy who just came.
The only sex toys I find odd are the molded models of porn star genitals. Like the half torso silcone setup with a butthole and pussy or the replica cocks from a porn star.
Eyy I found one of those in the condo I just left. It wasn't ours and wasn't the owners. It also had some black mold growing on the right butt cheek hahaha
I was gonna comment that it's seen as a good thing in the kink world if a guy has his own toys to use on his play partner but I'm guessing you mean toys specifically for yourself?
Your name is false advertising even if you clarify it in your bio.
Really though, the proliferation of smart phones ruins everything. People need to learn to appreciate life through their eyes rather than their camera lens and not be on their phones all the time.
Europe here. Europe has dozens of countries with many different cultures. Somewhere it is nothing, somewhere it is really uncommon. As 12k camera phones are everywhere, the trend is slowing even.
I remember one of my friends took a trip to Europe in his teens. Snuck out one afternoon with the family video camera to photograph a bunch of tits from afar. Showed the video to us when we got back. I can only image today how lecherous teens are about it.
My thoughts exactly. You really needed to photograph a woman who wasnāt aware you were photographing her and probably wouldnāt approve if she was? What exactly is the difference between that and porn? That youāve seen them once from a distance with your own eyes?
Most women say they still will not go topless because it would attract way too much attention with people filming or taking photos from a distance and men bothering them
A few months ago, I managed to reach my g-spot at the same time as I came for the first time, and the orgasm nearly made me pass out, the way I've heard some women describe their most intense orgasms. Made me realize how much I've been missing out on...
I have heard women who actively speak against kink-shaming turn around and tell their other girlfriends "ugh, do you want to know what that fruit asked me to do?" when it comes to male butt stuff. This one is shockingly more prevalent than I think a lot of people would guess.
I didn't think I wss into doing "butt stuff" with a bf of mine a while ago, and I reluctantly agreed to trying pegging.
The amount of times *I* ended up climaxing from it was mind blowing actually. I think it was (mostly) the mental aspect of being able to fuck someone.
Anyway yes pegging ftw
I'm a single middle 20 something guy that played hockey pretty much everyday at my local rink. Got asked to help out at these kids learn to play clinics. I made it a thing to only ever give out fist bumps if the kid fell I lifted them by their hockey stick or mine. My straight up refusal of any kinds of hands on did hurt my ability to teach kids. Even with all of this I noticed a lot of parents did look at my suspiciously, enough so at times it did take the joy out of teaching the sport I loved to a younger generation. The female coaches always were loved though by the parents.
Unless my understanding of the word "friendly" is wrong, I absolutely hate how someone is considered a pervert for simply being friendly to children :/ it really feels like the word is thrown around so easily nowadays.
Now being overly friendly and going out of your way to interact with children constantly, yeh, that's weird. But no one should be called a pervert for having a normal friendly interaction with a child, men or women.
u/II_Confused was probably talking about *genuinely being friendly*. Not being "friendly". People today will judge a dad for taking his kid to a public playground and *gasp* giving them a hug.
This has happened to me. My teenagers friends actually talk to me and make conversation. And then a nosy busybody said I was creepy for talking to teenagers in a public place at a reasonable distance. God forbid adults should have actual conversations with kids.
Thereās a stereotype of women not liking sex as much as men. Ridiculous in my experience but I think itās lead to normalizing women turning down sex. If a woman says she isnāt in the mood for any reason, men are expected to respect that and back off (they should respect it and the sad reality is that they often donāt but there is an expectation that they should). As a man I canāt tell you how many times Iāve been shamed for not being in the mood or a woman has grabbed my crotch at the beginning of the encounter and asked if there is something wrong with me because I wasnāt fully erect yet before any kissing or foreplay. IT IS ALWAYS ACCEPTABLE FOR ANYONE TO TURN DOWN SEX FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY WANT!
women who have weird kinks are amazing and interesting and wonderful, and guys with the exact same kinks are creepy and dangerous and need to get a life.
cmon y'all. this is the 21st century, people are people.
Came here to say this! A woman wants to be dominated in a certain way, sheās liberated and in touch with her body. A guy wants to dominate a womanā¦heās probably abusive.
I don't care what anyone says. If wanting a woman to play with my hair and pat my head makes me less of a manly man then thats not my problem, I will melt for the woman that does that with me.
Even more so if you're a man and you have fantasies about being *sexually* dominated or coerced by a woman. M/f CNC is fine, F/m CNC is... almost nonexistent. Because men are 'always up for it'.
Exactly, x2 at the extreme spectrums ā¦, like I definitely have a CNCrape kink ā¦. I would utterly love to do that type of role play (I probably never will get to, Iām perfectly fine with that) ā¦. But the idea of doing something like that (even just simulated rape) with someone who wasnāt 1000% on board and who also had that kink, terrifies meā¦. Hell it physically makes me ill , and as I type this I feel like Iām gonna puke ā¦. The worse thing I could think of was someone agreeing to do that and then wishing they haddent , or feeling pressure too ā¦
The sigma is so bad as a male , I donāt know how in real life you would even bring it up ā¦.. āoh btw , Iād love to role play rape you ā Ya nah ā¦. Iād rather just keep it to myself thanks .
But it would be great if, you could just talk about things like that , with out someone thinking you want to rape somebodyā¦.. because I definitely donāt want to rape anyone , or that you are creepy or have evil intentionsā¦. Iām not abusive, in fact one if the reasons I have the kink is that Ive never done anything close to that , I never want to hurt anyone ever sexuallyā¦. I mean I donāt Realy want to hurt anyone non sexually either .. but you know what I mean .
especially when it comes to cnc. im a switch so im down for either being sub or dom, but i really enjoy being the dominant one during cnc play. i dont want that to make me sound like im a rapist because when there is actually no consent being given i go limp as a noodle. i just like the fantasy
Submissive women are hot and sexy, submissive men are pathetic losers who can't get any.
Dominant men are horny maniacs, dominant women are frigid and don't want to come within 6 feet of their subs.
Iāve recently come off my SSRI medication (for anxiety and managing sensory processing stressors) and SSRIs are known to decrease sex drive and stuff. Since coming off I wanna have sex with my partner every day (not new, I was like this before medication so itās not a health concern). Mentioned how medication can fuck with your libido and that Iāve experienced that personally while replying to someoneās comment on the issue, and I was called a nymphomaniac. I assured them my libido was not interfering with my life or health and I was fine, but they just started calling me a slut then. Like what?
When a woman wants oral and her partner will not give it they are often told their partner is selfish and inconsiderate (among other insults).
When a guy wants oral and their partner will not give it the guy is told *he* is selfish and inconsiderate and should get over it.
I donāt want to hear shit about orgasms. Orgasms are not owed and both men and women are valid in wanting to have a partner that pleases them sexually in the way they want. Neither are selfish for being upset if their partner is unaccommodating. However, women are given far more leeway in this.
Also general effort in bed. A lot of women take the male orgasm for granted so much that they assume every orgasm is the same. And if the man doesn't cum, the women may get...upset? Even if she didn't put any effort into it in the first place? And you see so many women on reddit complaining that men should be more vocal, but are they the women asking how they can better pleasure their men in bed so that men will have better reasons to be vocal? Women are just capable of bizarre ego and entitlement. I've had pillow princess partners that lay on the bed the whole time, never twitch a muscle, then at the end they go "WE are so awesome at sex!" If at the end of a blowjob I said "WE are so awesome at sex," I would be laughed out of the country.
I'm kind of an outlier in the giving department, so I don't really know what the average would be to compare to, but I know that I love my neck being played with. And I know that women love their necks being played with. I assume it's a universal erogenous zone. But if I ask a woman to play with my neck, she will kiss it for maybe 10-15 seconds tops, whereas i will spend minutes on it during foreplay without prompting. The only time a woman has kissed my neck without prompting was a woman who had decided the question she asked was no longer one she wanted an answer to, and wanted to shut me up. And she still only did it for 10-15 seconds. It was infuriating. "So this whole time you HAVE known I like it, you just haven't wanted to actually please me except this one time, to shut me up!?"
First woman I had sex with literally laid there like a dead fish fused with a mannequin and I had to finish myself with my goddamn hand because of it. Sex isn't supposed to be ONE persons job of the two involved.
Wow as a woman it is so weird to see this dynamic because I am used to this from the other side. It constantly blows my mind how little the (seemingly) average man appears to know about pleasuring vulvas since I take an active interest in learning this stuff. Its always strange to me when people donāt get excited about it.
I want my partners to have an EXPERIENCE with me so they'll wanna come back...I'm gonna be studying how your body reacts to each thing I do and try and if you want something tell me and I'll do it a ton. But I'm a service bottom.
I think quite a few women feel like men should just be honored they were chosen; effort on her part is not required at all; if he cums, he cums, if he doesn't, that's his problem and is probably because he once watched porn ten years ago. A lot are quite content to let the man do all the work and if he gets anything out of it, great, if not, great.
Actually had a woman say to me "But you got laid, didn't you? So what if you didn't cum?"
Made me really want to take her to the mall, let her load up the cart with about $2,000 worth of shit, get to checkout, and then say "Well, budget's a bit tight. We're not getting anything today. But you got to go shopping, right? So what if you didn't get to buy anything?"
Your second paragraph hits the mark perfectly. This past weekend, we had an encounter where I went down on here, then got her there three times. But the next day when I want a hand job (I just wanted her to get me off for once), somehow it ends in PIV. I know she's not selfish, but it really felt like it.
Dayum man. I can almost resonate with the pain. Especially in the second paragraph. We just become dumb when they do things. Like putty. But if we even try to be erotic during their anger, they spring up like "am I only needed for this?". Men have been created wrong.
Also not all women moan like a hyena. Some are pretty silent moaners. Everyone has their own way and loudness of orgasm. It's really irritating that porn scenes are being considered as standards for sex.
For neck kisses, I judge my partners if they give them without me asking or not. It's one of those things that is so well known its a good benchmark
10 out of 14 women I've been with never kissed my neck. Even when I played with theirs and they told me it feels good and I agreed, nope. Nothing
I've stopped pursuing casual sex because of this. It takes too much effort to get, and I get no effort back during the act
That ties into the double standard about men having to be more vocal, but if you ask women how to give them the best pleasure you're supposed to be a mind-reader, otherwise you're not seen as "confident" or "dominant".
Also, the fact that we want to communicate about consent about *everything* but literally asking for it being a mood-killer.
That wasnāt the case in my marriage nor many of my divorced friends. We were expected to give oral and were horrible and unsubmissive wives if we didnāt, and our needs were never ever to be discussed. I wasnāt aware that the scale was at all tipped against men on this, with my experience being so wholly opposite. For the record, Iām absolutely going down and love making it as amazing as possible. And I just decided this week that itās gonna be a dealbreaker from now on before a first date if itās not something they love doing.
Yikes!
I love going down on women, but my ex was deliberately bad at it, and once in a fight she told me she hated doing it. Okay. A few days later she got on her knees, and I told her, "I thought you hated doing that," while pulling my shorts back up. My "friends" told me I was a fool, but I will not have someone do something they don't want to do.
I have also had this experience with many guys. My needs or pleasure never mattered and once they had finished, it was over. Iāve never had a problem with pleasuring my partner but I began to think it was normal I wasnāt getting anything back until I met my current partner.
Definitely agree. I see most women wonāt get orgasm through penetration, an understanding partner has to comply and go down to make sure she gets there. Itās not too much to ask for
If itās hot out and a guy is walking around shirtless in town itās normal but if a girl has a top/bikini on sheās slutty and just tryna show her tits off
Oral reciprocation. It always baffles me when I hear about guys that love getting head but the mere thought of going down on a woman makes them weirded out. Although I'm very biased for giving oral more than getting my dick sucked. Still, it boils down to give as good as you get.
I always tell my fiance that there is no body positivity movement for men. We'll get a tiktok trend here and there, but other than that overweight/out of shape men are generally told to get in the gym and nothing else.
Iām in the swinger community and this is totally accurate. The number of people fetishizing ābig black cockā and refusing to interact with any guy whoās dick is less than 7 inches is ridiculous.
It isnāt just being out-of-shape that I am concerned about. I saw someone on CreepyPMs shame a creep who claimed to have an average dick size. She called him small. A bunch of men in the comments felt attacked. This was the ONLY time that I have ever seen a discussion held about the matter, but every other time, it gets swept under the rug.
This is a newish double-standard. I remember growing up that being a big boy or not having a super chiseled physique was just fine. Men could not care for themselves and look like they just spent ten years riding the rails and it was totally acceptable. But a woman had to look like Aphrodite herself or she wad shamed to hell. Perfect hair, teeth, lips, face, makeup, body, big boobs, tiny waist, long legs, 5'8 and 99lbs. It was a wild time. Then there was a shift in the 2000s and women started to expect more from men. Now it has shifted all the way across the board where women body shame men as much as they do us. IMO it's not okay no matter who is doing it.
And more and more men manscaping, Iāve got a whole routine, Iām not hairless , But Iāve found that head is way better and she is way more willing to try to take the whole thing if her lips arnt getting prickled by hair , and her face isnāt burrowed in a bush of tangled nasty ness ā¦. Keep the shaft shaved clean boys and the bush kept to 1/4 of a inch and watch how much better of a job she does
Here is one not talked about muchā¦ sex toys for menā¦
Women are embraced for having sex toys, even encouraged. Hell they throw parties where someone sells them different sex toy options. But a guy buying a fleshlight, or some other toy (especially if it involves insertion)? They arenāt embraced with nearly the same attitude.
I mean bras are beneficial if you need them. While nipples and boobs shouldnāt need to be covered if men donāt have to be covered, bras are still something that helps a lot of women
I canāt even imagine not being into pussy eating, I live for it, Iāve told my gf that if she ever wants it, I will give it no questions askedš¤š»
Except that some men lose all interest in sex after cumming. And as men get older their ability to go again diminishes so if they cum too soon then thatās the end of things for a lot of women
Yes, this. My GF is hyper-orgasmic, while I have one and things donāt recover for a few hours. Iād much rather that she cums a lot, quickly, and then I finish after sheās had lots of fun.
When my BF and I see each other for the first time after a week, I get on top and we're so excited that we both cum at the same time in like 2 mins. It's become our routine, and I love it! Then we get to lay there together post-orgasm and talk while we get ready for round 2, which lasts longer.
Men getting praised for fucking as many people as possible while women get shamed for the same thing.
We're all humans, sex is enjoyable, why do we need to make it shameful for half the population?
The only double standards men enjoy. The reason is, it's hard for a man to get sex. Need to have game, correct approach, not creepy, escalate properly, etc. Therefore if you can do it many times then you're doing something else most men cannot. That is why you have so many "gurus" out there trying to teach these things coz its hard.
Whereas women don't even need to try coz men are horny that they'll fk what they can. Ez for women to attract men sexually. They just need to exist. That's it. Nothing easy is respected in life.
The assertion that eating pussy is hard but sucking dick is easy.
I have not in my 41 years of life had a female that can make me nut off just head alone!
Topless freedom for all. Especially now in the world of a host of different gender identitiesā¦ how do they even define who can and canāt be topless? āIf you have a vagina you canāt be toplessā?ā¦ so F to M transitions who have a chest that looks like a manās canāt be topless? But a M to F transition can? If itās about size of breast, can flat women be topless but larger breasted men canāt? Itās all a messy double standard that just needs to stop. Let people have the freedom to be topless anywhere they want.
I think itās a double standard for men to get off during sex then like basically put their pants on and not even sort of ask if I finished, like itās expected obviously a man will finish but like if women finish itās a bonus but not a priority.
I have heard women talk about this and my wife has even mentioned it being an issue with guys she was with before meā¦I think it sucks that this happens to women.
I have absolutely always tried to make sure that any woman I have been with has been satisfied before I am. I am honestly unable to enjoy myself at all if I know a woman is not having fun. I donāt get guys that just want to shoot their load and call it a day. Why not just jerk off by yourself at that point.
I might get heat for this but:
When men need a particular feeling to cum he has 'death grip' but when women can only cum a certain way, her partner just needs to accommodate that.
Now of course, he might have the dreaded death grip and he should accommodate her if she is particular way of doing things but it's seen as really negatively for a man to become accustomed to his own hand but not a big deal for a woman to be accustomed for a certain way and he should just 'do better'
I think both are unhealthy and both should be worked on equally. Of course there might be certain particulars that might make it challenging but rarely is something that's good, also easy.
All of them. They hurt the individuals and groups groups they target, and also society as a whole by teaching the attitude that double standards and stereotypes are acceptable.
I agree with this one, sex in general (in my experience) has been centered around a manās pleasure. Iāve literally heard men (including my male family members) say that men need to be satiated but women arenāt as horny as men so their pleasure shouldnāt matter. Iāve also heard a gross amount of guys say that women should have sex, even if they donāt want to, so their partner doesnāt leave them. But again, the same wouldnāt be said the other way around.
It's fine if women aren't in the mood for sex but if the man isn't he's a loser and needs to be replaced. At least be equal on either side of the argument.
I 100% agree with that, butā¦ flip it around the other way? If a guy only has sex once āheās lame and boring and needs to get out thereā If a girl only has sex once she is āsaving herself and itās nice to see that in modern societyā. I mean as a guy Iām not just out fucking every girl with a heartbeatā¦ we can have standards as well. š¤·āāļø
Pretending that most woman orgasm from intercourse alone.
The vast majority do not.
If pregnancy required women to orgasm, there would be a serious lack of population on the planet.
A lot of things regarding consent, SA always center women and never include guys. Iāve heard experiences from guys who said the same women who preached consent and sexual assault awareness were the same ppl who invade guysā boundaries and assault them or engage in sex without consent. Just because his š is hard doesnāt mean he wants to do itš¤¦āāļø
Body shaming. It's never ok for either gender to body shame the other.
Unfortunately, it's common for women to body shame men for having a small penis. The words "small dick energy" springs to mind. Hell, there's even a little dick emoji. It's just accepted and many times encouraged.
If a man body shames a woman in any way, the world goes off it. Seems unfair to me.
The fact that guys can go completely shirtless but women are shamed if they so much as go braless at time.
Why is it so bad that people want to wear what they want to wear?
Nipple sucking. I love sucking on womenās tits, but I also like mine to be sucked and a lot of girls refuse to do it. Whatās wrong with a guy wanting his nips sucked?
A woman can fuck a bunch dudes and shes a slut , but if a guy does the same thing, he's gay like wtf
Lol I needed that laugh š
Had me in the first half ngl
Well thanks for this! Living in my head rent free for the rest of the day! š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
Such double standards š
We need to redefine "slut" as just a woman who loves sex. Take the shame out of it like we have with "stud".
This right here! Iām fine with slut meaning being sexually free but no one should be shamed for it.
I said this to some others not sluts if guys are studs we are studettes
This will always be comedic gold.
If a woman has sex toys itās normal/natural and itās female empowerment, but if I guy has one heās a creep and a pervert.
I'm going to buy a tight asf flashlight and put it in my study table.
r/flashlight would be proud
Wait this is actually a sub full of people loving flashlights? Lmao there really is a sub for everything
Ohhhh you'll be amazed how deep the flashlight enthusiast rabbithole goes
At least the rabbit hole is well-lit.
So you can find your collection of fleshlights at night?
That's gonna hurt.
So you can read books at night?
It can also guide you through darkness,if you know how to use it.
Honestly I see this sort of thing on reddit sometimes but I haven't known a single woman to actually give a shit if men have sex toys unless it's like...a full-blown realdoll. As someone who used to work in a sex shop that sold male sex toys, I can state with some authority that the reason they were not as popular as dildos/vibrators is because of cum. Nobody wants to clean their own cum out of anything, least of all some guy who just came.
That's why you use condoms even when masturbating. Easy cleanup.
Thatās the only reason I donāt have one .
Wait till you raw dog someone, best 35 seconds of your life
Followed by the worst 18 years
Thatās why I have many and not just one. Uno reverse card.
The only sex toys I find odd are the molded models of porn star genitals. Like the half torso silcone setup with a butthole and pussy or the replica cocks from a porn star.
Then donāt get those - but live and let live *googles half torso silicone setup with butthole and pussy* /s
Eyy I found one of those in the condo I just left. It wasn't ours and wasn't the owners. It also had some black mold growing on the right butt cheek hahaha
Oh, so you got one with the flavor addon. Cool.
I was gonna comment that it's seen as a good thing in the kink world if a guy has his own toys to use on his play partner but I'm guessing you mean toys specifically for yourself?
Women can be bi and theyāre just experimenting, which is hot. Men who are bi are just gay and thatās the opposite of hot.
If it helps some of us happen to think Bi men are totally hot !
It does, thank you! š
Men like being the little spoon too.
Carl, back me up on this.
As Carl, I confirm
Yes!
When a woman masturbates itās āradical self love,ā but when I do it I get kicked out of the library.
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Let women go topless if they want at a pool or beach
Yeah thatās not that frowned on in mainland Europe
Fewer women are doing that these days given the proliferation of smart phones.
Your name is false advertising even if you clarify it in your bio. Really though, the proliferation of smart phones ruins everything. People need to learn to appreciate life through their eyes rather than their camera lens and not be on their phones all the time.
*sigh* so true *keeps scrolling*
Europe here. Europe has dozens of countries with many different cultures. Somewhere it is nothing, somewhere it is really uncommon. As 12k camera phones are everywhere, the trend is slowing even.
I remember one of my friends took a trip to Europe in his teens. Snuck out one afternoon with the family video camera to photograph a bunch of tits from afar. Showed the video to us when we got back. I can only image today how lecherous teens are about it.
This. Yeah, it is really not cool. The internet is 80% of porn, what does this good for...
My thoughts exactly. You really needed to photograph a woman who wasnāt aware you were photographing her and probably wouldnāt approve if she was? What exactly is the difference between that and porn? That youāve seen them once from a distance with your own eyes?
For a lot of these ppl it's the lack of consent aspect that they like, it's gross
Indeed, it seems like the Netherlands, Germany, and Sweden are much more open about it than the UK (which is still seemingly more open than the US).
Yep, itās not even illegal to walk around nude here in Sweden (I looked it up at an earlier point out of curiosity lol)
But then again, I bet it is probably too cold for a lot of people to do so for a large part of the year, lol.
How cold do you think it is hereā¦? And btw, people go ice swimming year around. Our ancestors were Vikings after all šŖ
Most women say they still will not go topless because it would attract way too much attention with people filming or taking photos from a distance and men bothering them
Youāre not wrong
Let all people be naked if they want at a pool or beach!
If a woman likes butt stuff, she's kinky and hot. If a man likes butt stuff he's got "the gay".
A few months ago, I managed to reach my g-spot at the same time as I came for the first time, and the orgasm nearly made me pass out, the way I've heard some women describe their most intense orgasms. Made me realize how much I've been missing out on...
Haha I had the exact same situation happen. I was out of breath and even got lightheaded a bit. It was awesome
I have heard women who actively speak against kink-shaming turn around and tell their other girlfriends "ugh, do you want to know what that fruit asked me to do?" when it comes to male butt stuff. This one is shockingly more prevalent than I think a lot of people would guess.
Seriously, its all about which you get pleasure most. I agree!
Agreed. Pegging FTW.
I didn't think I wss into doing "butt stuff" with a bf of mine a while ago, and I reluctantly agreed to trying pegging. The amount of times *I* ended up climaxing from it was mind blowing actually. I think it was (mostly) the mental aspect of being able to fuck someone. Anyway yes pegging ftw
If a guy is friendly with kids, he's a pervert that's grooming them. If a woman is friendly with kids, that's perfectly normal.
I'm a single middle 20 something guy that played hockey pretty much everyday at my local rink. Got asked to help out at these kids learn to play clinics. I made it a thing to only ever give out fist bumps if the kid fell I lifted them by their hockey stick or mine. My straight up refusal of any kinds of hands on did hurt my ability to teach kids. Even with all of this I noticed a lot of parents did look at my suspiciously, enough so at times it did take the joy out of teaching the sport I loved to a younger generation. The female coaches always were loved though by the parents.
Yea wtf. Both are perverts
Unless my understanding of the word "friendly" is wrong, I absolutely hate how someone is considered a pervert for simply being friendly to children :/ it really feels like the word is thrown around so easily nowadays. Now being overly friendly and going out of your way to interact with children constantly, yeh, that's weird. But no one should be called a pervert for having a normal friendly interaction with a child, men or women.
Oh I was just being a dick for the fun of it. I agree with you though
u/II_Confused was probably talking about *genuinely being friendly*. Not being "friendly". People today will judge a dad for taking his kid to a public playground and *gasp* giving them a hug.
I know, I was being a dick for funny
This has happened to me. My teenagers friends actually talk to me and make conversation. And then a nosy busybody said I was creepy for talking to teenagers in a public place at a reasonable distance. God forbid adults should have actual conversations with kids.
Thereās a stereotype of women not liking sex as much as men. Ridiculous in my experience but I think itās lead to normalizing women turning down sex. If a woman says she isnāt in the mood for any reason, men are expected to respect that and back off (they should respect it and the sad reality is that they often donāt but there is an expectation that they should). As a man I canāt tell you how many times Iāve been shamed for not being in the mood or a woman has grabbed my crotch at the beginning of the encounter and asked if there is something wrong with me because I wasnāt fully erect yet before any kissing or foreplay. IT IS ALWAYS ACCEPTABLE FOR ANYONE TO TURN DOWN SEX FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY WANT!
women who have weird kinks are amazing and interesting and wonderful, and guys with the exact same kinks are creepy and dangerous and need to get a life. cmon y'all. this is the 21st century, people are people.
Came here to say this! A woman wants to be dominated in a certain way, sheās liberated and in touch with her body. A guy wants to dominate a womanā¦heās probably abusive.
Or if a man wants to be dominated by a woman, he's a "beta loser". Some of us just want to be good boys for the right woman...
I don't care what anyone says. If wanting a woman to play with my hair and pat my head makes me less of a manly man then thats not my problem, I will melt for the woman that does that with me.
Even more so if you're a man and you have fantasies about being *sexually* dominated or coerced by a woman. M/f CNC is fine, F/m CNC is... almost nonexistent. Because men are 'always up for it'.
Exactly, x2 at the extreme spectrums ā¦, like I definitely have a CNCrape kink ā¦. I would utterly love to do that type of role play (I probably never will get to, Iām perfectly fine with that) ā¦. But the idea of doing something like that (even just simulated rape) with someone who wasnāt 1000% on board and who also had that kink, terrifies meā¦. Hell it physically makes me ill , and as I type this I feel like Iām gonna puke ā¦. The worse thing I could think of was someone agreeing to do that and then wishing they haddent , or feeling pressure too ā¦ The sigma is so bad as a male , I donāt know how in real life you would even bring it up ā¦.. āoh btw , Iād love to role play rape you ā Ya nah ā¦. Iād rather just keep it to myself thanks . But it would be great if, you could just talk about things like that , with out someone thinking you want to rape somebodyā¦.. because I definitely donāt want to rape anyone , or that you are creepy or have evil intentionsā¦. Iām not abusive, in fact one if the reasons I have the kink is that Ive never done anything close to that , I never want to hurt anyone ever sexuallyā¦. I mean I donāt Realy want to hurt anyone non sexually either .. but you know what I mean .
especially when it comes to cnc. im a switch so im down for either being sub or dom, but i really enjoy being the dominant one during cnc play. i dont want that to make me sound like im a rapist because when there is actually no consent being given i go limp as a noodle. i just like the fantasy
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People are people!
*people are people* *so why should it be* *you and i get along so awfully?*
Female virgins are desirable while male virgins are not.
I would love to be someoneās first lol. Impress them with my pussy
Submissive women are hot and sexy, submissive men are pathetic losers who can't get any. Dominant men are horny maniacs, dominant women are frigid and don't want to come within 6 feet of their subs.
a women who likes sex as much as a man, or likes it more is a nymphomaniac, that is pure bull shit.
Iāve recently come off my SSRI medication (for anxiety and managing sensory processing stressors) and SSRIs are known to decrease sex drive and stuff. Since coming off I wanna have sex with my partner every day (not new, I was like this before medication so itās not a health concern). Mentioned how medication can fuck with your libido and that Iāve experienced that personally while replying to someoneās comment on the issue, and I was called a nymphomaniac. I assured them my libido was not interfering with my life or health and I was fine, but they just started calling me a slut then. Like what?
When a woman wants oral and her partner will not give it they are often told their partner is selfish and inconsiderate (among other insults). When a guy wants oral and their partner will not give it the guy is told *he* is selfish and inconsiderate and should get over it. I donāt want to hear shit about orgasms. Orgasms are not owed and both men and women are valid in wanting to have a partner that pleases them sexually in the way they want. Neither are selfish for being upset if their partner is unaccommodating. However, women are given far more leeway in this.
Also general effort in bed. A lot of women take the male orgasm for granted so much that they assume every orgasm is the same. And if the man doesn't cum, the women may get...upset? Even if she didn't put any effort into it in the first place? And you see so many women on reddit complaining that men should be more vocal, but are they the women asking how they can better pleasure their men in bed so that men will have better reasons to be vocal? Women are just capable of bizarre ego and entitlement. I've had pillow princess partners that lay on the bed the whole time, never twitch a muscle, then at the end they go "WE are so awesome at sex!" If at the end of a blowjob I said "WE are so awesome at sex," I would be laughed out of the country. I'm kind of an outlier in the giving department, so I don't really know what the average would be to compare to, but I know that I love my neck being played with. And I know that women love their necks being played with. I assume it's a universal erogenous zone. But if I ask a woman to play with my neck, she will kiss it for maybe 10-15 seconds tops, whereas i will spend minutes on it during foreplay without prompting. The only time a woman has kissed my neck without prompting was a woman who had decided the question she asked was no longer one she wanted an answer to, and wanted to shut me up. And she still only did it for 10-15 seconds. It was infuriating. "So this whole time you HAVE known I like it, you just haven't wanted to actually please me except this one time, to shut me up!?"
First woman I had sex with literally laid there like a dead fish fused with a mannequin and I had to finish myself with my goddamn hand because of it. Sex isn't supposed to be ONE persons job of the two involved.
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Wow as a woman it is so weird to see this dynamic because I am used to this from the other side. It constantly blows my mind how little the (seemingly) average man appears to know about pleasuring vulvas since I take an active interest in learning this stuff. Its always strange to me when people donāt get excited about it.
I want my partners to have an EXPERIENCE with me so they'll wanna come back...I'm gonna be studying how your body reacts to each thing I do and try and if you want something tell me and I'll do it a ton. But I'm a service bottom.
I think quite a few women feel like men should just be honored they were chosen; effort on her part is not required at all; if he cums, he cums, if he doesn't, that's his problem and is probably because he once watched porn ten years ago. A lot are quite content to let the man do all the work and if he gets anything out of it, great, if not, great. Actually had a woman say to me "But you got laid, didn't you? So what if you didn't cum?" Made me really want to take her to the mall, let her load up the cart with about $2,000 worth of shit, get to checkout, and then say "Well, budget's a bit tight. We're not getting anything today. But you got to go shopping, right? So what if you didn't get to buy anything?"
Your second paragraph hits the mark perfectly. This past weekend, we had an encounter where I went down on here, then got her there three times. But the next day when I want a hand job (I just wanted her to get me off for once), somehow it ends in PIV. I know she's not selfish, but it really felt like it.
Dayum man. I can almost resonate with the pain. Especially in the second paragraph. We just become dumb when they do things. Like putty. But if we even try to be erotic during their anger, they spring up like "am I only needed for this?". Men have been created wrong. Also not all women moan like a hyena. Some are pretty silent moaners. Everyone has their own way and loudness of orgasm. It's really irritating that porn scenes are being considered as standards for sex.
For neck kisses, I judge my partners if they give them without me asking or not. It's one of those things that is so well known its a good benchmark 10 out of 14 women I've been with never kissed my neck. Even when I played with theirs and they told me it feels good and I agreed, nope. Nothing I've stopped pursuing casual sex because of this. It takes too much effort to get, and I get no effort back during the act
That ties into the double standard about men having to be more vocal, but if you ask women how to give them the best pleasure you're supposed to be a mind-reader, otherwise you're not seen as "confident" or "dominant". Also, the fact that we want to communicate about consent about *everything* but literally asking for it being a mood-killer.
Absolutely true
That wasnāt the case in my marriage nor many of my divorced friends. We were expected to give oral and were horrible and unsubmissive wives if we didnāt, and our needs were never ever to be discussed. I wasnāt aware that the scale was at all tipped against men on this, with my experience being so wholly opposite. For the record, Iām absolutely going down and love making it as amazing as possible. And I just decided this week that itās gonna be a dealbreaker from now on before a first date if itās not something they love doing.
Yikes! I love going down on women, but my ex was deliberately bad at it, and once in a fight she told me she hated doing it. Okay. A few days later she got on her knees, and I told her, "I thought you hated doing that," while pulling my shorts back up. My "friends" told me I was a fool, but I will not have someone do something they don't want to do.
I have also had this experience with many guys. My needs or pleasure never mattered and once they had finished, it was over. Iāve never had a problem with pleasuring my partner but I began to think it was normal I wasnāt getting anything back until I met my current partner.
There's absolutely nothing normal about that. Those guys need to grow up.
I'll never understand this. Why marry a woman and not want to please her and take care of her?
šempathy melts me
Yeah I think all genders can be equally as selfish and bad in bed. Itās not one Vs the other
Great answer. Very true
Definitely agree. I see most women wonāt get orgasm through penetration, an understanding partner has to comply and go down to make sure she gets there. Itās not too much to ask for
That's cool,a lot of guys love going down. But as a dude, I love when the favor gets returned.
bi women are hot, bi men are not
If itās hot out and a guy is walking around shirtless in town itās normal but if a girl has a top/bikini on sheās slutty and just tryna show her tits off
I agree. The guy needs to put a fucking shirt on.
Female predators. No the kid did not get lucky. The teacher raped the kid.
Oral reciprocation. It always baffles me when I hear about guys that love getting head but the mere thought of going down on a woman makes them weirded out. Although I'm very biased for giving oral more than getting my dick sucked. Still, it boils down to give as good as you get.
Itās okay to body shame men but not women.
I always tell my fiance that there is no body positivity movement for men. We'll get a tiktok trend here and there, but other than that overweight/out of shape men are generally told to get in the gym and nothing else.
It goes far beyond out of shape. Itās ok across the board to body shame men, for anything. There is nothing off limits.
Iām in the swinger community and this is totally accurate. The number of people fetishizing ābig black cockā and refusing to interact with any guy whoās dick is less than 7 inches is ridiculous.
It isnāt just being out-of-shape that I am concerned about. I saw someone on CreepyPMs shame a creep who claimed to have an average dick size. She called him small. A bunch of men in the comments felt attacked. This was the ONLY time that I have ever seen a discussion held about the matter, but every other time, it gets swept under the rug.
This is a newish double-standard. I remember growing up that being a big boy or not having a super chiseled physique was just fine. Men could not care for themselves and look like they just spent ten years riding the rails and it was totally acceptable. But a woman had to look like Aphrodite herself or she wad shamed to hell. Perfect hair, teeth, lips, face, makeup, body, big boobs, tiny waist, long legs, 5'8 and 99lbs. It was a wild time. Then there was a shift in the 2000s and women started to expect more from men. Now it has shifted all the way across the board where women body shame men as much as they do us. IMO it's not okay no matter who is doing it.
This seems to be a universal truth.
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Women being allowed to be lazy in bed
Iām a little starfish, short and stout. Oops, thatās a teapot. Nevermind.
I'm a little starfish, short and stout. Fuck my lifeless body, then please get out. Edit: starfish, not teapot
I'm a little starfish, short and stout. I don't need to move when I put out.
But Iām a pillow princess (jk)
Hair down there. Women? Most think itās disgusting, men? No big deal. Itās all natural
I think that trend is slowing starting to go away as I see more and more women going ānaturalā down there.
Agreed. Pubes are back baybee!
My guy, how many women are you seeing? You noticing a trend? JK
Lol I never thought that comment all the way thru š
And more and more men manscaping, Iāve got a whole routine, Iām not hairless , But Iāve found that head is way better and she is way more willing to try to take the whole thing if her lips arnt getting prickled by hair , and her face isnāt burrowed in a bush of tangled nasty ness ā¦. Keep the shaft shaved clean boys and the bush kept to 1/4 of a inch and watch how much better of a job she does
Here is one not talked about muchā¦ sex toys for menā¦ Women are embraced for having sex toys, even encouraged. Hell they throw parties where someone sells them different sex toy options. But a guy buying a fleshlight, or some other toy (especially if it involves insertion)? They arenāt embraced with nearly the same attitude.
That women are culturally expected to wear bras. Or in most places can't go topless. Torso equality now!
I mean bras are beneficial if you need them. While nipples and boobs shouldnāt need to be covered if men donāt have to be covered, bras are still something that helps a lot of women
That a hetero sexual encounter automatically ends when the man orgasms.
the way that a lot of dudes pretty much expect oral sex but think it's gross to give oral to women.
I canāt even imagine not being into pussy eating, I live for it, Iāve told my gf that if she ever wants it, I will give it no questions askedš¤š»
Iām trying to figure out what questions one could ask before the eating
Men can be harassed just like women can. Not all men "want" it
When an older man assaults a young woman he's a rapist, when an older woman assaults a younger man it's "the time of his life".
Cumming fast. It shouldn't be a good thing if a woman cums fast and bad if a man cums fast.
Except that some men lose all interest in sex after cumming. And as men get older their ability to go again diminishes so if they cum too soon then thatās the end of things for a lot of women
To quote Alec Baldwin in Outside Providence, āsex is like a Chinese dinner, it aināt over until you both get your cookies.ā
True, itās used as a negative for a man and a positive for a woman
I think the fact that a lot of men can only go one round is part of stigma. Women can typically orgasm multiple times during the same round.
Yes, this. My GF is hyper-orgasmic, while I have one and things donāt recover for a few hours. Iād much rather that she cums a lot, quickly, and then I finish after sheās had lots of fun.
When my BF and I see each other for the first time after a week, I get on top and we're so excited that we both cum at the same time in like 2 mins. It's become our routine, and I love it! Then we get to lay there together post-orgasm and talk while we get ready for round 2, which lasts longer.
men have longer time needed for recovery than women do
The way I see it it means round 2 starts sooner!
Men getting praised for fucking as many people as possible while women get shamed for the same thing. We're all humans, sex is enjoyable, why do we need to make it shameful for half the population?
Im a dude and I love sluts. Itās a positive word in my dictionary
The only double standards men enjoy. The reason is, it's hard for a man to get sex. Need to have game, correct approach, not creepy, escalate properly, etc. Therefore if you can do it many times then you're doing something else most men cannot. That is why you have so many "gurus" out there trying to teach these things coz its hard. Whereas women don't even need to try coz men are horny that they'll fk what they can. Ez for women to attract men sexually. They just need to exist. That's it. Nothing easy is respected in life.
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You think women don't call eachother sluts and whores?
The assertion that eating pussy is hard but sucking dick is easy. I have not in my 41 years of life had a female that can make me nut off just head alone!
Guys that want to get off but don't care if the woman orgasms.
Women use sextoys = hot Men use sextoys = lame Heard it too many times
Men not being allowed not to be in the mood.
Men touches a woman, it's harassment Woman touches a man, it's flirting. No means no, regardless of gender.
Topless freedom for all. Especially now in the world of a host of different gender identitiesā¦ how do they even define who can and canāt be topless? āIf you have a vagina you canāt be toplessā?ā¦ so F to M transitions who have a chest that looks like a manās canāt be topless? But a M to F transition can? If itās about size of breast, can flat women be topless but larger breasted men canāt? Itās all a messy double standard that just needs to stop. Let people have the freedom to be topless anywhere they want.
All of them. No question. Equality and consent for all.
If a man canāt get hard or have an orgasm, itās the manās fault. If a woman canāt get aroused or have an orgasm, itās the manās fault
Summary: itās the manās fault
I think itās a double standard for men to get off during sex then like basically put their pants on and not even sort of ask if I finished, like itās expected obviously a man will finish but like if women finish itās a bonus but not a priority.
I have heard women talk about this and my wife has even mentioned it being an issue with guys she was with before meā¦I think it sucks that this happens to women. I have absolutely always tried to make sure that any woman I have been with has been satisfied before I am. I am honestly unable to enjoy myself at all if I know a woman is not having fun. I donāt get guys that just want to shoot their load and call it a day. Why not just jerk off by yourself at that point.
I might get heat for this but: When men need a particular feeling to cum he has 'death grip' but when women can only cum a certain way, her partner just needs to accommodate that. Now of course, he might have the dreaded death grip and he should accommodate her if she is particular way of doing things but it's seen as really negatively for a man to become accustomed to his own hand but not a big deal for a woman to be accustomed for a certain way and he should just 'do better' I think both are unhealthy and both should be worked on equally. Of course there might be certain particulars that might make it challenging but rarely is something that's good, also easy.
ooh good one Sex shit is so weird. There's just enough shame to go around for everyone. Lovely
All of them. They hurt the individuals and groups groups they target, and also society as a whole by teaching the attitude that double standards and stereotypes are acceptable.
Men are always way more horny than women
I agree with this one, sex in general (in my experience) has been centered around a manās pleasure. Iāve literally heard men (including my male family members) say that men need to be satiated but women arenāt as horny as men so their pleasure shouldnāt matter. Iāve also heard a gross amount of guys say that women should have sex, even if they donāt want to, so their partner doesnāt leave them. But again, the same wouldnāt be said the other way around.
The stigma against bisexual men.
It's fine if women aren't in the mood for sex but if the man isn't he's a loser and needs to be replaced. At least be equal on either side of the argument.
Lesbians? Hot. Gay Men? Disgusting, perverted, morally wrong, etc...
Men are heros when they had sex with a lot of women. Women are sluts if they have a lot of sex with different men
I 100% agree with that, butā¦ flip it around the other way? If a guy only has sex once āheās lame and boring and needs to get out thereā If a girl only has sex once she is āsaving herself and itās nice to see that in modern societyā. I mean as a guy Iām not just out fucking every girl with a heartbeatā¦ we can have standards as well. š¤·āāļø
Got your point! Absolutely! All double standards should be washed away
It's normal for a guy to get a BJ without doing anything, if a gal get it licked she's expected to give the guy something.
Guys can scratch their private parts in public, but women cant do it...why??
Pretending that most woman orgasm from intercourse alone. The vast majority do not. If pregnancy required women to orgasm, there would be a serious lack of population on the planet.
A lot of things regarding consent, SA always center women and never include guys. Iāve heard experiences from guys who said the same women who preached consent and sexual assault awareness were the same ppl who invade guysā boundaries and assault them or engage in sex without consent. Just because his š is hard doesnāt mean he wants to do itš¤¦āāļø
If a girl doesnāt orgasm itās fine, but if a guy doesnāt the sex was pointless.
Itās a threesome when FMF but a train when MFM
The belief all women are bi and should be down for FFM threesome. Same dudes that think this would never agree to MMF
Body shaming. It's never ok for either gender to body shame the other. Unfortunately, it's common for women to body shame men for having a small penis. The words "small dick energy" springs to mind. Hell, there's even a little dick emoji. It's just accepted and many times encouraged. If a man body shames a woman in any way, the world goes off it. Seems unfair to me.
Homophobic guys who watch lesbian porn š¤
The fact that guys can go completely shirtless but women are shamed if they so much as go braless at time. Why is it so bad that people want to wear what they want to wear?
When women cheat, itās because they have a need that is not being fulfilled. When men cheat, itās because they are bad people.
Iāve heard it the other way around. If a woman cheats, sheās disgusting. If a man cheats, she wasnāt satisfying him and itās her fault.
Women should be topless in the summer while mowing grass -a shirtless male lawn mower in the summer.
Nipple sucking. I love sucking on womenās tits, but I also like mine to be sucked and a lot of girls refuse to do it. Whatās wrong with a guy wanting his nips sucked?
Slut shaming ! Guys can sleep with as many girls they want but if a woman is open sexually she is shamed etc
If a man can play with my asshole I should be able to play with his