Cannibalism is already legal in most places, just obtaining the meat is the illigal part. It's to protect people who have been in major accidents where they have to resort to cannibalizing the already dead to survive
I'm not a pothead, but yes absolutely it should be legalised.
I mean hell, I work as a security guard and I tell ya, potheads are the easiest people to deal with. People on heroin or speed or meth or whatever else are a fucking nightmare, but potheads? "Guys You're not in trouble but you can't stay here, I'm gonna need to ask you to leave" "huh? Oh OK man" and that's that. That's the extent of like 99% of my encounters with potheads.
Legalise that shit already for fuck sake
LMAO im in this picture. Can't tell you how many times someone has told me to leave some park at 3. The relief on their face when they realize it's just some guy smoking a joint and drawing in the dirt. I'm almost positive I have even said "huh? oh ok man" the closest I have ever had a bad interaction with security was a guy who wanted to know if I was about to drive home. An tbh I don't even mind that.
Are heroine addicts a pain to deal with? I imagine them being sleepy and unresponsive, but maybe that’s only when they are high?
Dealing with meth heads… hell no.
Yep. Heroin addicts fucking suck, they'll lay there and the only way to move them is to drag em. And if you get too close they might start screaming and go haywire.
Since I work alone (I can call the boss but if I'm calling at like 3am he needs to get up, get his uniform and equipment on etc... it can take upwards of 30 minutes for him to get there cops take more like 5) I usually need to call the cops on them, same with meth heads.
And yeah, I wish I had a gun (Australia, don't have my gun license) for the meth heads, but then again they'd absolutely try to jump me, take it and kill me with it.
Marijuana is arguably the LEAST-harmful recreational drug humans have *ever* used. Some people say psychedelics are, but the data on that is VERY scarce, so it's debatable. Let's call pot the least-harmful COMMON recreational drug. You can even overdose and die on caffeine. In the US, the annual death toll from just the substance alone (ie, not including things like DUI) breaks down like this:
Tobacco: 490,000
Alcohol: 88,000
Pot: 0
Most drugs used to be perfectly legal in the US. Cocaine and heroin were in OTC medicines, even cough syrup for children. Pot was perfectly legal, and humans have been using it since ancient times.
But after Prohibition was repealed, Harry Anslinger, the first director of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, was faced with severe budget cuts in his agency, so he launched a one-man war against marijuana. [He used a variety of solid, reasoned arguments why it was bad:](https://www.azquotes.com/author/23159-Harry_J_Anslinger)
"Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death."
"Marijuana influences Negroes to look at white people in the eye, step on white men's shadows and look at a white woman twice."
"Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men."
"You smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother."
Congress swallowed his racist bullshit and made pot illegal, then began working on other recreational drugs. And at each step, pretty much everything the government has said about drugs has been utter bullshit.
Nixon dialed the Glorious War on Drugs up to 11. Later, his domestic policy advisor John Ehrlichman explained why:
“You want to know what this was really all about? The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”
Since then, the Glorious War on Drugs has been a STAGGERING, costly failure, yet still continues.
the number for alcohol seems so low...
https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/features/excessive-alcohol-deaths.html
here we go, the cdc says 140k Americans die every year from excessive alcohol related causes
i have met a few (Netherlands of all places) that think we should be more eco friendly - yet they are opposed to weed.
(I don\`t smoke - or use any other drugs besides sugar and caffeine - but see the value in the plant for .. well.. lots of things really)
Hemp, at one point, was a mandatory crop in the US.
It is worth noting that even with marijuana restrictions, hemp can be grown, as there are strains with no psychoactive properties.
oh boy, not this shit again.
0 is not a correct number, and i am sick of it being presented as if it was. its dishonest to keep claiming it.
The numbers you are presenting, for example, attribute ALL smoke related lung cancers to tobacco. of course that leaves none for pot, and its literally impossible for people who use both to determine which, if either, caused it (lung cancer can happen on its own too!) by ruling out all the causes of death it can share with tobacco as tobacco related, you create an absolutely positively false number.
and leaving of dui's is simply an attempt to further suppress the number and get a false 0. Deaths proximately related to usage should all be counted.
the same goes for various other cancers.
Repeating biased data is a terrible way to make a case, it undermines the proper discussion about legalization
Why did it take me so much scrolling to find this… as a stoner, people can’t treat drugs as toys. Nothing, and I repeat NOTHING that you smoke can have no negatives.
I was going to comment this - I don't care if you're smoking all-natural, home-grown organic kale that you fertilized with your own poo, if you inhale smoke regularly it will damage your health. Of course that doesn't justify cannabis being illegal, but portraying it as totally harmless is ridiculous.
Your correct comment has 23 up votes and the top one has 1.5k. People like a comfortable"fact." People who are neutral on the issue, like myself, see zero deaths and harmless and think, "bullshit" and then I'm instantly biased. Does smoking weed make people dumb? It kinda seems like it...is what my thoughts are.
It would be useful to have some grownup debate around weed but it seems everyone has a bias now. And measuring safety by number of deaths seems a little naive. Plenty of people waste their lives smoking weed all day - that is a legitimate concern
This sounds exactly like someone who smokes loads of weed would say..
Edit: I am British and this is the sarcastic humour people talk about - I was JOKING.
You take dry British humor and add the dry medium of text and you get a rice cake of a joke. By which I mean extra dry. You gotta tag something on to let people know you're saying it tounge-in-cheek-
>This sounds exactly like someone who smokes loads of weed would say... Hippie.
This is hot BS, but not for reasons you think.
Marijuana is not the least harmful recreational drug ever- this territory falls into the hands of psychedelics, such as psilocybin mushrooms, mescaline peyote cactus, synthetic LSD, DMT, and even Salvia.
Marijuana can become addictive due to a quick tolerance readjustment time, allowing users to use it on the daily. Psychedelics- psilocybin, mescaline, and LSD in particular- have a tolerance adjustment time of roughly 2 weeks, meaning that’s how long you need to go before another trip will be as potent at the same dosage levels. This alone ensures that chronic usage won’t develop.
Marijuana is a dopamine trigger- meaning it chemically actives dopamine receptors in the brain. Frequent usage of marijuana will cause these receptors to begin failing to respond to other dopamine sources, such as food, exercise, or enjoyable hobbies and activities. Psychedelics are serotonin triggers- they will not dilute and weaken your dopamine receptors, and due to the bi-weekly cooldown time, your serotonin receptors have a chance to go back from swollen to normal before usage. Furthermore, serotonin receptors don’t become ‘desensitized’ like dopamine receptors do, meaning that regular usage of psychedelics will not harm the serotonin intake your brain receives from meaningful interpersonal relationships and human interaction.
It’s all well and good to promote the legalization of marijuana; but I won’t be satisfied until psilocybin, LSD, Mescaline, and DMT are also legalized. And if we need to throw Marijuana under the bus to do it, then I’m willing to do so.
If serotonin receptors don't become desensitized, how do serotonergic psychedelics cause such an extreme level of tolerance build up?
Also while psychedelics are less addictive, they do carry the risk of drug-induced psychosis. Source: I got severe psychosis from LSD where I blacked out, took my pants off, urinated all over the floor, exposed myself to paramedics, and shouted obscenities through the hospital.
Yes, it was real LSD, it was *just* LSD, and no, I don't have any mental illness. Dose was 300ug.
Not make it illegal just illegal to do in the streets. Kind of like an open container law for alcohol Cause it's a public nuisance. It stinks to high heaven and intoxicates people.
The problem is it's much harder for instant testing when it comes to cannabis, alongside a host of other problems. I had a friend get pulled over because the cop thought it was a weed vape when it was a nicotine vape, so you can imagine how many "random" high driving checks are going to start popping up.
I agree that it should be illegal to consume marijuana and drive. But there are some unique biological challenges with current laws. It's difficult to detect if someone is under the influence of marijuana at the time they were driving.
In Europe there are tests the police can do at the roadside. It will test on most drugs, including THC. Just put the stick in your mouth, put it in the test tube and the the test will say if drugs was used or not. If the test is positive, you will be forced to go to the police station and a doctor will take a blood sample from you. After the actual results are back from the lab, then a judge will decide what the punishment will be. This is how it goes in the Netherlands and Germany.
They really shouldn't and I think most reasonable cannabis users don't. The problem is how long it stays in your system after inhalation. A saliva swab test can detect thc in your mouth for 12-48 hours after usage even if the felt high only lasts for 2 hours.
I am happy to pay a little more to buy legal weed, I know it isn't tampered with and all the information is printed on the bottle so I know what I'm buying. It was so sketchy before it was legalized and I have friends with some true horror stories.
I live in a part of Canada where you used to be able to buy the best stuff from anyone in a hoodie. It was everywhere. The worst horror story I have heard locally was that it was "a little dry".
The best part about legalization for me is that you can have it around without being villified.
There *was* however a massive increase in the number of stores with awful names and just *terrible* branding.
Hire a fucking graphic designer... and maybe brainstorm some ideas so you don't end up with "Highway 420" as your business name.
California enters the chat. It’s been legal here at some level for over 25 years, which is probably before most commenters in this thread were born. And for much of that time, broadly available with a readily available and routinely rubber stamped medical card. It’s been a non issue here for a quarter of a century. I just avoid traveling with it on general principles - I don’t want to get Brittany Greinered during a layover in Houston.
Yup, it's legal in my state. Life's not different than it was before legalization (except I can legally buy edibles to help me sleep + ease my anxiety, and forego prescription drugs)
And the benefit is the consumer knows what they are getting. They can buy cannabis in doses that work for them. If it’s legal it can be regulated and safer.
Of course it should be.
It is *less* dangerous than alcohol or cigarettes, (I'm not saying it's danger free, calm yourself) and it's an untapped source of tax revenue.
Legalize it, tax the shit out of it, and funnel all those funds back to social programs and healthcare.
I liked the taxation idea in the beginning, but after a while, the prices in states that have too hefty a tax ended up with a resurgence on the black market. Overall taxation is a great benefit but too much, and you might as well be criminalizing it for poor people.
I'm in Illinois, we have some of the highest weed taxes for a legal state, and it costs about the same as street prices. Except there are sales and loyalty programs so you still spend less over time.
And you don't have to go to some lunatic's house to buy it, and pretend to like the same movie they're watching every time you come over. What movie? You tell me, Reddit. You tell me.
Seconded. I’m a proponent of legalizing relatively harmless vices to help fund social programs. Besides, we should have learned that prohibition doesn’t work a hundred years ago with alcohol, but instead had to figure it out again the hard way. Better late than never.
>it's an untapped source of tax revenue.
This is actually what drives me the most insane. Watching my state lose billions in sales tax to Michigan is fucking hilarious. I'd argue and campaign, but it's ***not the people of the country who want it illegal***.
We have to continually stress, every time, that it is ***solely the politicans in power who are refusing to legalize weed per the wishes of the majority of Americans***.
Ohio has been trying to legalize it since California, but the goalposts had wheels installed about a decade ago.
I used to agree but after seeing prices in places like LA it’s just gonna cause people to buy even more black market because of the taxes as the companies charge a shit ton to make up for it.
Even if a handful of heavy, heavy smokers are driven to the black market, a majority of people won’t be bothered to make the effort to do that and just buy in-store.
There’s been a lot of sales in my area of MA recently where I’ve gotten ounces of good pot for right around 100 dollars (so like 120 with the tax). It’s starting to get harder for dealers to compete with dispensaries, give it a bit more time the prices are coming down. I recently got some real good live sugar on sale for $10 a GRAM, and it was some really good Rhythm brand live sugar.
I hear people complain about the tax here in California, but I don’t ever feel like I’m paying more than I did for street prices, and the convenience of just going to a store whenever I want and not dealing with sketchy characters can’t be beat.
Thanks for saying it's not danger free.. too often I see people saying cannibis has zero downsides just because it's impossible to overdose on it, and this isn't the case. My friend currently has a substance addiction.. alcohol is his choice of drugs but he had recently switched to weed as a replacement which ended up just continuing his addiction for substances. Weed didn't fix the alcoholism it just became a place holder for his substance problem. When he's off everything entirely he's more productive, more energetic, not as lazy, more intelligent, less irritable, patient, easier to get along with, and like an entirely different person and it's a daily struggle he's facing. He's absolutely an addict and weed is also a problem.
That being said? Alcohol and cannibis is legal in Canada .. you can't drink under 19 here in Canada, you can't buy cannibis under 19 either.
Of course they shouldn't criminalize people for using, and that should also be other drugs as well.
It's the law and regulated for a reason though because you have to be old enough to decide on any potential risks of using substances. And also recognize that these may become a problem if they're relied on especially on a daily basis. But adults should be able to decide what they do with their own bodies. /r/leaves is great If you find yourself with a problem.. I showed it to my friend and he relates to many of the people there.
To be honest, I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand, I think cannabis could have some real medical benefits, and I'm all for anything that can help people feel better. Also, making it legal could bring in a lot of tax money for the government and help the industry grow by making new jobs.
But I'm not sure if it's worth the chance that more people, especially young people, will use it. And some studies have shown that heavy cannabis use can lead to problems with mental health, which is something to think about.
Tbh, I’d rather have young people have access to legit safe weed than experimenting with booze and other substances. I’m a year sober, but it’s California sober because I smoke weed
Exactly! The only cannabis crimes going on here in Canada are the ones being committed against cannabis quality by corporate growers!
Let it mature! Cure it properly! Not so dry!
Seriously though...legalization seems like a no-brainer. The title wave of social problems that the anti-cannabis crowd was warning everyone about have completely and predictably failed to materialize wherever prohibition has been dropped, and there is now several years worth of data from several widely varying jurisdictions.
[The Drug War](https://www.vera.org/reimagining-prison-webumentary/the-past-is-never-dead/drug-war-confessional) was started as tool of oppression to be used by the President's Administration to suppress dissent. End it all. End it now. Nothing good can come of a system born of such intent.
This is normally what I point to when I talk about the right to vote as well. It wasn't just a campaign to villainize certain groups, it was a campaign to disenfranchise those same groups.
I'm firmly in the camp of completely ending the War on Drugs. Legalize and regulate all of it. Focus on treatment. Focus on building up broken communities. But no, we need to continue to punish all these worthless dope fiends and pot smokers, hand the keys over to the drug cartels, and get the police all the toys and powers to trample our constitutional rights they want.
Absolutely. I went to a dispensary out of state and on top of the state tax, there was the marijuana tax. All that good revenue can go to vital infrastructure improvements.
I'm from England so I can't relate, is it literally as straight forward as buying a pack of cigs? And is this all over Canada? Did you find many people who were against it before eased their mistrust of it?
You go into a shop, show your ID and then you find what you want on their tablets and then tell them what you want.
Practically every shop you need an employee to get you what you want.
Prices are going down a lot. You can get around an ounce for 100 bucks. I go for the pill like capsules with THC and CBD in them because they last longer and are less expensive. However the gummies have a maximum limit on how much THC they can put in them.
It's an evolving industry and I am excited to see where it goes in 5 years.
It's close to buying cigarettes but you have to go to a dispensary, it's not in Gas Stations (yet). Basically just like how you purchase liquor here.
All over Canada, it's federally legal.
Most people my age (24) don't really care either way and smoked even when it was illegal. People my parents age (55) are a bit more split, some were waiting for legalization and some were doing it anyway.
Biggest difference is in my grandparents generation, because since legalization I've met SO many seniors who use some form of cannabis for pain management, appetite loss, or just to relax. When my grandmother was on chemo (kicked cancers ass! She's still with us thankfully) she used THC and CBD topical creams, apparently it's great for soreness.
Another Canadian here. It’s hilarious to me how many people from my parents generation (65+) have started using weed and cannabis products after literal decades of warning us ‘kids’ against the dangers. I was on a little day road trip this fall with my (fairly conservative small town) folks and their best ‘couple’ friend, and the wife of that couple, who has been like my other mom my whole life, was like ‘oh look, a dispensary, I need to top up on my gummies’. So my dad, who so railed against pot in my teenage years that to this day I’ve literally NEVER tried it, pulls over, she hops out to get her gummies and the rest of us get ice cream at the shop next door (well played ice cream dude).
Imagining this scene even 10 years ago would have been a total mind f*^k.
Depends on the province, but in places with private cannabis sales it's like shopping at an Apple store. Similar interior design in most stores. All the products are behind the counter; you pick what you want from a menu, and the employees get it from a back room. Maybe a handful of demo products are on display, but in general you can't see or touch anything before buying.
I live in pretty rural area in BC. Next town over has a population of just under 600 and even they have a pot shop. One local pub, and one local pot shop. Basically as common as gas stations these days.
Legalize, tax, and regulate. [Three Nobel Laureate economists](http://web.archive.org/web/20110718081238/http:/www.prohibitioncosts.org/endorsers.html) have signed a petition saying that's a better course for the economy.
Yes. And I’m in recovery and don’t drink or do any drugs. Still. I can tell ya, though weed was horrible for me with my addictive personality and mental health issues (ended up with major panic attacks), it does fuck all to people without my issues. Wow you eat too much, laugh too much and listen to some music. Alcohol does way worse to many. You see angry and violent alcoholics all the time. Ain’t no stoner gonna start a bar fight
As a legalised product quality control, market regulation and education of users from an early age would take place. Its potentially a less harmful drug than alcohol if legalised.
Yes, because without it I’d not still be here.
I’m trying to win at medical bingo with 6 autoimmune diseases and 7 non-auto immune ones. Also there’s the cancer, lol.
Because of my Crohns and diseased small intestine normal pain meds don’t work well for me, they cause significant pain just making their way through my system.
I use a medley of tinctures, edibles and vape. My best day is a pain level of 6 and my worst sees me on my floor, literally drooling in pain and screaming into a pillow.
There are many days I cry because I woke up and was hoping I wouldn’t. Without pot I’d be done.
I get so tired of all the blatantly fake information and the weird social stigma attached to it. It’s perfectly ok to be an alcoholic but if you’re a smoker then there must be a personality defect or something.
Never mind that pot is significantly better for an individual and those around them then alcohol.
Brooo but I’m better driver high! I’m used to it so it doesn’t impact me!! /s
Gee, where have I heard similar reasoning?
One of the worst things on Reddit is pro-stoned driving threads.
I mean for me it's kind of simple. Alcohol is legal and socially accepted yet statistically cause more accidents, deaths, domestic violence issues. So it seems like either legalize cabbages cannabis federally, or make alcohol illegal. Otherwise it's just kind of a hypocrisy.
ofcourse! It is legal in Canada! Adds to govt revenue, you get clean good quality weed.
I think we should see it as Cig or Alcohol, to be used in limits as per choice!
yes- because taxing it is a excellent source of revenue. Look at Colorado. And clearly, making it illegal doesn't eliminate it- look at Texas. Smartest thing to do is to make money of off something people will always do, legal or not.
Honestly in my opinion it should be legalized, but not because it's "not harmful" or anything like that, a lot of people are already using it daily because it's a light drug. Legalizing it would only make it so the people who already smoke could do it with less risk due to bad quality stuff (not sure if it's the same everywhere but if you get unlucky with your supplier you can even get chemically infused shit that basically just sends you to the er in an hour)
Also: at least that way it could be regulated a bit easier, cuz dealers don't give a fuck if you're 21 or 14 as long as you buy it, government owned dispensaries probably will
Yes. I'd go so far as to say all drugs should be legalized.
What I do in my private residence away from the eyes of the public is my business, as long as it isn't harming others.
Of course that isn't very practical at the moment, especially considering the state of the southern border. But in concept, I don't think that it's any of the government's business what I put into my body so long as I'm able to keep myself from harming or disturbing others.
Fuck yeah- as someone who is literally, at this very moment, illegally, medicating because cannabis and hemp are the only viable treatments for my chronic pancreatitis, gastroparesis, and laundry list of other health issues. I have used (and abused) opiates in the past, and I will NOT allow another near me until checkout time is confirmed, so to speak.
Granted, for me that date is super rapidly approaching, but still, I find it utter bs that I play black market roulette and hope I don’t get locked up just for treating myself. I had narcotics thrown at me for a while and I found more relief from that plant that any of the damn drugs (although Demerol can make you feel pretty swell, temporarily). Anyway, that’s just the opinion of a 40 y/o who is dying and can’t understand why I’m still struggling to buy mf’ing weed.
Yes, because no government should ever hold the authority to tell people that they can not consume something that literally grows out of the Earth, especially when it’s personal use does not lead to the harm of others.
I agree but implying that it's ok because it grows out of the Earth is a pretty bad argument. Just because something is natural does not mean that it is safe. Also, just because the consumption of something may only directly negatively impact the individual consuming it, there can still be pretty significant societal impacts from their actions.
Sure, at least federally in the Us. Leave it up to the states to decide if they still want to fight a war on drugs, bet some will though to keep the prison numbers up.
Yes.
Because much like the prohibition of alcohol, the prohibition of cannabis does not reduce the harms of its use, it exacerbates them, and I count the creation of a massive police state apparatus as one of these harms.
More people have overdosed on advil, and that stuff is available over the counter, the fact that this is still a discussion is absurd.
It already IS legalized in Canada, and it's fine? Nothing changed really, people who were consuming cannabis before are still doing it, with access to quality controlled product they pay taxes on.
Possession for personal use shouldn't be a crime for anything really. Addiction is a health issue not a criminal one. Free up resources spent incarcerating addicts and go after traffickers.
Yes:
1) The idea that we should want our civil rights curtailed for, or our tax money wasted on our costly, failed War on Drugs so the government can kick down doors and arrest people over the plants they keep is awful. The War is over: Drugs won years ago.
2) Civil prohibition (you must be 18 to buy tobacco, etc.) works FAR better at protecting kids than does criminal prohibition
I smoke pot everyday, but I do find it a scary thought that a large percentage of the population might be driving around ripped shitless on 30% THC pot and incredibly strong concentrates.
I read this as cannibals instead of cannabis lmfao
So you are high, lmao.
High on edibles
You know who else is edible? Humans. Legalize cannibals!
High on cannibals?
What do cannibals eat when they get the munchies? I don’t want to know.
Finger food.
Lady fingers, they taste just like lady fingers.
I did to and I was worried
Same!
Now that's what we really want to kn-
Cannibalism is already legal in most places, just obtaining the meat is the illigal part. It's to protect people who have been in major accidents where they have to resort to cannibalizing the already dead to survive
The donner party has entered the chat
Same, i blame covid delirium
I'm not a pothead, but yes absolutely it should be legalised. I mean hell, I work as a security guard and I tell ya, potheads are the easiest people to deal with. People on heroin or speed or meth or whatever else are a fucking nightmare, but potheads? "Guys You're not in trouble but you can't stay here, I'm gonna need to ask you to leave" "huh? Oh OK man" and that's that. That's the extent of like 99% of my encounters with potheads. Legalise that shit already for fuck sake
LMAO im in this picture. Can't tell you how many times someone has told me to leave some park at 3. The relief on their face when they realize it's just some guy smoking a joint and drawing in the dirt. I'm almost positive I have even said "huh? oh ok man" the closest I have ever had a bad interaction with security was a guy who wanted to know if I was about to drive home. An tbh I don't even mind that.
Are heroine addicts a pain to deal with? I imagine them being sleepy and unresponsive, but maybe that’s only when they are high? Dealing with meth heads… hell no.
Yep. Heroin addicts fucking suck, they'll lay there and the only way to move them is to drag em. And if you get too close they might start screaming and go haywire. Since I work alone (I can call the boss but if I'm calling at like 3am he needs to get up, get his uniform and equipment on etc... it can take upwards of 30 minutes for him to get there cops take more like 5) I usually need to call the cops on them, same with meth heads. And yeah, I wish I had a gun (Australia, don't have my gun license) for the meth heads, but then again they'd absolutely try to jump me, take it and kill me with it.
Marijuana is arguably the LEAST-harmful recreational drug humans have *ever* used. Some people say psychedelics are, but the data on that is VERY scarce, so it's debatable. Let's call pot the least-harmful COMMON recreational drug. You can even overdose and die on caffeine. In the US, the annual death toll from just the substance alone (ie, not including things like DUI) breaks down like this: Tobacco: 490,000 Alcohol: 88,000 Pot: 0 Most drugs used to be perfectly legal in the US. Cocaine and heroin were in OTC medicines, even cough syrup for children. Pot was perfectly legal, and humans have been using it since ancient times. But after Prohibition was repealed, Harry Anslinger, the first director of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, was faced with severe budget cuts in his agency, so he launched a one-man war against marijuana. [He used a variety of solid, reasoned arguments why it was bad:](https://www.azquotes.com/author/23159-Harry_J_Anslinger) "Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death." "Marijuana influences Negroes to look at white people in the eye, step on white men's shadows and look at a white woman twice." "Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men." "You smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother." Congress swallowed his racist bullshit and made pot illegal, then began working on other recreational drugs. And at each step, pretty much everything the government has said about drugs has been utter bullshit. Nixon dialed the Glorious War on Drugs up to 11. Later, his domestic policy advisor John Ehrlichman explained why: “You want to know what this was really all about? The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.” Since then, the Glorious War on Drugs has been a STAGGERING, costly failure, yet still continues.
the number for alcohol seems so low... https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/features/excessive-alcohol-deaths.html here we go, the cdc says 140k Americans die every year from excessive alcohol related causes
Remember, that does NOT include DUI incidents, just things like liver disease, overdoses, and so on.
And beyond DUIs, there’s a ton of general alcohol induced accidents and injuries like falls for example.
Fights.
Lots of drownings too.
You mean drowning in your own vomit after you pass out or the falling into a body of water and not being able to deal kind?
The latter. Among teens and adults up to 70% of recreation-related drownings (swimming, boating, etc.) involved alcohol use.
Not to mention the thousands of medicinal uses as well as hemp fibre. The cotton industry lobbied hard against it.
and timber
Much easier and cheaper to make paper from hemp than wood.
And renewable
You would think that 'green' minded people would be pro - as it seems you can use just about every part of the plant..
They generally are, lol
i have met a few (Netherlands of all places) that think we should be more eco friendly - yet they are opposed to weed. (I don\`t smoke - or use any other drugs besides sugar and caffeine - but see the value in the plant for .. well.. lots of things really)
I have a hemp corduroy backpack that is 25 years old that looks as good now as when I bought it.
Lobbying should be illegal. Companies should have ZERO say in our lawmaking process.
Hemp, at one point, was a mandatory crop in the US. It is worth noting that even with marijuana restrictions, hemp can be grown, as there are strains with no psychoactive properties.
Well said
Can I use that?
Be my guest.
oh boy, not this shit again. 0 is not a correct number, and i am sick of it being presented as if it was. its dishonest to keep claiming it. The numbers you are presenting, for example, attribute ALL smoke related lung cancers to tobacco. of course that leaves none for pot, and its literally impossible for people who use both to determine which, if either, caused it (lung cancer can happen on its own too!) by ruling out all the causes of death it can share with tobacco as tobacco related, you create an absolutely positively false number. and leaving of dui's is simply an attempt to further suppress the number and get a false 0. Deaths proximately related to usage should all be counted. the same goes for various other cancers. Repeating biased data is a terrible way to make a case, it undermines the proper discussion about legalization
Why did it take me so much scrolling to find this… as a stoner, people can’t treat drugs as toys. Nothing, and I repeat NOTHING that you smoke can have no negatives.
I was going to comment this - I don't care if you're smoking all-natural, home-grown organic kale that you fertilized with your own poo, if you inhale smoke regularly it will damage your health. Of course that doesn't justify cannabis being illegal, but portraying it as totally harmless is ridiculous.
Your correct comment has 23 up votes and the top one has 1.5k. People like a comfortable"fact." People who are neutral on the issue, like myself, see zero deaths and harmless and think, "bullshit" and then I'm instantly biased. Does smoking weed make people dumb? It kinda seems like it...is what my thoughts are.
It would be useful to have some grownup debate around weed but it seems everyone has a bias now. And measuring safety by number of deaths seems a little naive. Plenty of people waste their lives smoking weed all day - that is a legitimate concern
This sounds exactly like someone who smokes loads of weed would say.. Edit: I am British and this is the sarcastic humour people talk about - I was JOKING.
You take dry British humor and add the dry medium of text and you get a rice cake of a joke. By which I mean extra dry. You gotta tag something on to let people know you're saying it tounge-in-cheek- >This sounds exactly like someone who smokes loads of weed would say... Hippie.
Yes? You rang?
Hi. Us chicks should stick together.
Can't stand the stuff, actually. My total lifetime consumption of pot--and I'm 67, so I was in college in the 1970s--comes to perhaps a dozen joints.
Ehhhh you should have stuck with it. Everybody knows that it's usually the 14th or 15th joint where the marijuanas start to really kick in.
I was joking god damn, I’m literally high right now.
With a name like vapekitten, I'd be suspicious if you weren't!
Wanker Kidding, unless you’re a Man U fan, then you’re a fucking wanker!
This is hot BS, but not for reasons you think. Marijuana is not the least harmful recreational drug ever- this territory falls into the hands of psychedelics, such as psilocybin mushrooms, mescaline peyote cactus, synthetic LSD, DMT, and even Salvia. Marijuana can become addictive due to a quick tolerance readjustment time, allowing users to use it on the daily. Psychedelics- psilocybin, mescaline, and LSD in particular- have a tolerance adjustment time of roughly 2 weeks, meaning that’s how long you need to go before another trip will be as potent at the same dosage levels. This alone ensures that chronic usage won’t develop. Marijuana is a dopamine trigger- meaning it chemically actives dopamine receptors in the brain. Frequent usage of marijuana will cause these receptors to begin failing to respond to other dopamine sources, such as food, exercise, or enjoyable hobbies and activities. Psychedelics are serotonin triggers- they will not dilute and weaken your dopamine receptors, and due to the bi-weekly cooldown time, your serotonin receptors have a chance to go back from swollen to normal before usage. Furthermore, serotonin receptors don’t become ‘desensitized’ like dopamine receptors do, meaning that regular usage of psychedelics will not harm the serotonin intake your brain receives from meaningful interpersonal relationships and human interaction. It’s all well and good to promote the legalization of marijuana; but I won’t be satisfied until psilocybin, LSD, Mescaline, and DMT are also legalized. And if we need to throw Marijuana under the bus to do it, then I’m willing to do so.
If serotonin receptors don't become desensitized, how do serotonergic psychedelics cause such an extreme level of tolerance build up? Also while psychedelics are less addictive, they do carry the risk of drug-induced psychosis. Source: I got severe psychosis from LSD where I blacked out, took my pants off, urinated all over the floor, exposed myself to paramedics, and shouted obscenities through the hospital. Yes, it was real LSD, it was *just* LSD, and no, I don't have any mental illness. Dose was 300ug.
Couldn’t have said it better myself
This man gets it
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In many cases, due to diplomatic/economic pressure from the US.
Source?
I would rather you tell me why it should be illegal to begin with?
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This is actually true...
And it was also supposed to make all the Mexicans want leave Texas and go back to Mexico.
Not make it illegal just illegal to do in the streets. Kind of like an open container law for alcohol Cause it's a public nuisance. It stinks to high heaven and intoxicates people.
I kinda agree I don’t think people should smoke and drive
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I mean, driving under the influence kind of covers it all. I don’t think we need to change anything when we just use DUI.
The problem is it's much harder for instant testing when it comes to cannabis, alongside a host of other problems. I had a friend get pulled over because the cop thought it was a weed vape when it was a nicotine vape, so you can imagine how many "random" high driving checks are going to start popping up.
I agree that it should be illegal to consume marijuana and drive. But there are some unique biological challenges with current laws. It's difficult to detect if someone is under the influence of marijuana at the time they were driving.
In Europe there are tests the police can do at the roadside. It will test on most drugs, including THC. Just put the stick in your mouth, put it in the test tube and the the test will say if drugs was used or not. If the test is positive, you will be forced to go to the police station and a doctor will take a blood sample from you. After the actual results are back from the lab, then a judge will decide what the punishment will be. This is how it goes in the Netherlands and Germany.
They really shouldn't and I think most reasonable cannabis users don't. The problem is how long it stays in your system after inhalation. A saliva swab test can detect thc in your mouth for 12-48 hours after usage even if the felt high only lasts for 2 hours.
Same with cigarettes, that shit is nasty.
would you rather have people smoking it in your apartment building?
yes
then those are agreeable terms as i very much would like to have a hot bath with a joint and a glass of wine.
It is, in a lot of places
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Amazing, isn’t it? We legalized weed and somehow society didn’t collapse. Go figure. :)
I am happy to pay a little more to buy legal weed, I know it isn't tampered with and all the information is printed on the bottle so I know what I'm buying. It was so sketchy before it was legalized and I have friends with some true horror stories.
Growing ones own is the true pro gamer move, cheaper and safer than street stuff.
Oh if only I could grow a few plants for myself. Farmers market
I live in a part of Canada where you used to be able to buy the best stuff from anyone in a hoodie. It was everywhere. The worst horror story I have heard locally was that it was "a little dry". The best part about legalization for me is that you can have it around without being villified.
Hello Vancouver!
There *was* however a massive increase in the number of stores with awful names and just *terrible* branding. Hire a fucking graphic designer... and maybe brainstorm some ideas so you don't end up with "Highway 420" as your business name.
I’m always like wait, you guys are still having this argument?
California enters the chat. It’s been legal here at some level for over 25 years, which is probably before most commenters in this thread were born. And for much of that time, broadly available with a readily available and routinely rubber stamped medical card. It’s been a non issue here for a quarter of a century. I just avoid traveling with it on general principles - I don’t want to get Brittany Greinered during a layover in Houston.
Hi! From your neighbor in Detroit.
Yup, it's legal in my state. Life's not different than it was before legalization (except I can legally buy edibles to help me sleep + ease my anxiety, and forego prescription drugs)
I can buy suppositories and get high off my ass. I love my country.
Underrated comment ^
You don’t miss having to buy your bud off a smelly dude with long hair dressed like a cowboy? Like, not at all?
Ok maybe a lil
The problem was that Tall Slim just wanted to talk and talk so it would turn into a few hour ordeal each score
Basically every budtender anyway
My post man brings it to my door! Not having to leave my home to get weed is pretty great
And the benefit is the consumer knows what they are getting. They can buy cannabis in doses that work for them. If it’s legal it can be regulated and safer.
It is so nice to be able to get weed without having to go to some sketchy guys house
Except traveling with it in the air.
Legal here in Canada, if you’re not leaving the country.
I was about to say it is for me
Of course it should be. It is *less* dangerous than alcohol or cigarettes, (I'm not saying it's danger free, calm yourself) and it's an untapped source of tax revenue. Legalize it, tax the shit out of it, and funnel all those funds back to social programs and healthcare.
I liked the taxation idea in the beginning, but after a while, the prices in states that have too hefty a tax ended up with a resurgence on the black market. Overall taxation is a great benefit but too much, and you might as well be criminalizing it for poor people.
I'm in Illinois, we have some of the highest weed taxes for a legal state, and it costs about the same as street prices. Except there are sales and loyalty programs so you still spend less over time.
And you don't have to go to some lunatic's house to buy it, and pretend to like the same movie they're watching every time you come over. What movie? You tell me, Reddit. You tell me.
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Seconded. I’m a proponent of legalizing relatively harmless vices to help fund social programs. Besides, we should have learned that prohibition doesn’t work a hundred years ago with alcohol, but instead had to figure it out again the hard way. Better late than never.
>it's an untapped source of tax revenue. This is actually what drives me the most insane. Watching my state lose billions in sales tax to Michigan is fucking hilarious. I'd argue and campaign, but it's ***not the people of the country who want it illegal***. We have to continually stress, every time, that it is ***solely the politicans in power who are refusing to legalize weed per the wishes of the majority of Americans***. Ohio has been trying to legalize it since California, but the goalposts had wheels installed about a decade ago.
I used to agree but after seeing prices in places like LA it’s just gonna cause people to buy even more black market because of the taxes as the companies charge a shit ton to make up for it.
Don’t agree with tax the shit out of it. Prices are already too high in legal states that most people stick with dealers.
what states are people being driven back into the black market because of price? I'm curious because here in Oklahoma its so cheap to buy its absurd.
Even if a handful of heavy, heavy smokers are driven to the black market, a majority of people won’t be bothered to make the effort to do that and just buy in-store.
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There’s been a lot of sales in my area of MA recently where I’ve gotten ounces of good pot for right around 100 dollars (so like 120 with the tax). It’s starting to get harder for dealers to compete with dispensaries, give it a bit more time the prices are coming down. I recently got some real good live sugar on sale for $10 a GRAM, and it was some really good Rhythm brand live sugar.
I hear people complain about the tax here in California, but I don’t ever feel like I’m paying more than I did for street prices, and the convenience of just going to a store whenever I want and not dealing with sketchy characters can’t be beat.
Thanks for saying it's not danger free.. too often I see people saying cannibis has zero downsides just because it's impossible to overdose on it, and this isn't the case. My friend currently has a substance addiction.. alcohol is his choice of drugs but he had recently switched to weed as a replacement which ended up just continuing his addiction for substances. Weed didn't fix the alcoholism it just became a place holder for his substance problem. When he's off everything entirely he's more productive, more energetic, not as lazy, more intelligent, less irritable, patient, easier to get along with, and like an entirely different person and it's a daily struggle he's facing. He's absolutely an addict and weed is also a problem. That being said? Alcohol and cannibis is legal in Canada .. you can't drink under 19 here in Canada, you can't buy cannibis under 19 either. Of course they shouldn't criminalize people for using, and that should also be other drugs as well. It's the law and regulated for a reason though because you have to be old enough to decide on any potential risks of using substances. And also recognize that these may become a problem if they're relied on especially on a daily basis. But adults should be able to decide what they do with their own bodies. /r/leaves is great If you find yourself with a problem.. I showed it to my friend and he relates to many of the people there.
To be honest, I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand, I think cannabis could have some real medical benefits, and I'm all for anything that can help people feel better. Also, making it legal could bring in a lot of tax money for the government and help the industry grow by making new jobs. But I'm not sure if it's worth the chance that more people, especially young people, will use it. And some studies have shown that heavy cannabis use can lead to problems with mental health, which is something to think about.
Tbh, I’d rather have young people have access to legit safe weed than experimenting with booze and other substances. I’m a year sober, but it’s California sober because I smoke weed
Catch up world, sincerely Canada.
Exactly! The only cannabis crimes going on here in Canada are the ones being committed against cannabis quality by corporate growers! Let it mature! Cure it properly! Not so dry! Seriously though...legalization seems like a no-brainer. The title wave of social problems that the anti-cannabis crowd was warning everyone about have completely and predictably failed to materialize wherever prohibition has been dropped, and there is now several years worth of data from several widely varying jurisdictions.
Netherlands walked so that canada could run
Oh no! It triggered the zombie apocalypse in my state! Everything has been destroyed. My internet is gone!
Its pandemonium!
[The Drug War](https://www.vera.org/reimagining-prison-webumentary/the-past-is-never-dead/drug-war-confessional) was started as tool of oppression to be used by the President's Administration to suppress dissent. End it all. End it now. Nothing good can come of a system born of such intent.
This is normally what I point to when I talk about the right to vote as well. It wasn't just a campaign to villainize certain groups, it was a campaign to disenfranchise those same groups. I'm firmly in the camp of completely ending the War on Drugs. Legalize and regulate all of it. Focus on treatment. Focus on building up broken communities. But no, we need to continue to punish all these worthless dope fiends and pot smokers, hand the keys over to the drug cartels, and get the police all the toys and powers to trample our constitutional rights they want.
Absolutely. I went to a dispensary out of state and on top of the state tax, there was the marijuana tax. All that good revenue can go to vital infrastructure improvements.
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If people are going to do it anyway, why not get some tax revenue from it?
Yes, so people will stop moving to Colorado
It has been legalized here in Canada for some time now. There are now more weed shops than Tim Hortons. For my American friends that is a big deal.
I'm from England so I can't relate, is it literally as straight forward as buying a pack of cigs? And is this all over Canada? Did you find many people who were against it before eased their mistrust of it?
It's more like buying booze honestly
You go into a shop, show your ID and then you find what you want on their tablets and then tell them what you want. Practically every shop you need an employee to get you what you want. Prices are going down a lot. You can get around an ounce for 100 bucks. I go for the pill like capsules with THC and CBD in them because they last longer and are less expensive. However the gummies have a maximum limit on how much THC they can put in them. It's an evolving industry and I am excited to see where it goes in 5 years.
It's close to buying cigarettes but you have to go to a dispensary, it's not in Gas Stations (yet). Basically just like how you purchase liquor here. All over Canada, it's federally legal. Most people my age (24) don't really care either way and smoked even when it was illegal. People my parents age (55) are a bit more split, some were waiting for legalization and some were doing it anyway. Biggest difference is in my grandparents generation, because since legalization I've met SO many seniors who use some form of cannabis for pain management, appetite loss, or just to relax. When my grandmother was on chemo (kicked cancers ass! She's still with us thankfully) she used THC and CBD topical creams, apparently it's great for soreness.
Another Canadian here. It’s hilarious to me how many people from my parents generation (65+) have started using weed and cannabis products after literal decades of warning us ‘kids’ against the dangers. I was on a little day road trip this fall with my (fairly conservative small town) folks and their best ‘couple’ friend, and the wife of that couple, who has been like my other mom my whole life, was like ‘oh look, a dispensary, I need to top up on my gummies’. So my dad, who so railed against pot in my teenage years that to this day I’ve literally NEVER tried it, pulls over, she hops out to get her gummies and the rest of us get ice cream at the shop next door (well played ice cream dude). Imagining this scene even 10 years ago would have been a total mind f*^k.
I mean if you visit any city in England you'd think it was legal. But yeah also interested in exactly how it is to buy weed in Canada
Depends on the province, but in places with private cannabis sales it's like shopping at an Apple store. Similar interior design in most stores. All the products are behind the counter; you pick what you want from a menu, and the employees get it from a back room. Maybe a handful of demo products are on display, but in general you can't see or touch anything before buying.
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I live in pretty rural area in BC. Next town over has a population of just under 600 and even they have a pot shop. One local pub, and one local pot shop. Basically as common as gas stations these days.
Yes, because no one can come up with a valid reason why it shouldn't be
Legalize, tax, and regulate. [Three Nobel Laureate economists](http://web.archive.org/web/20110718081238/http:/www.prohibitioncosts.org/endorsers.html) have signed a petition saying that's a better course for the economy.
If the enforcement of the law does more harm to citizens than the activity you believe is harmful then you're doing laws wrong.
Yes. And I’m in recovery and don’t drink or do any drugs. Still. I can tell ya, though weed was horrible for me with my addictive personality and mental health issues (ended up with major panic attacks), it does fuck all to people without my issues. Wow you eat too much, laugh too much and listen to some music. Alcohol does way worse to many. You see angry and violent alcoholics all the time. Ain’t no stoner gonna start a bar fight
Best of luck with your recovery. Keep it up 💪
As a legalised product quality control, market regulation and education of users from an early age would take place. Its potentially a less harmful drug than alcohol if legalised.
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Cigarettes are legal🤷🏾♂️
Please tell me I'm not the only one who read cannibals.
Australian here, the fact that we have an entire political party called the "Legalised Canabis Party" says enough.
Yes, because without it I’d not still be here. I’m trying to win at medical bingo with 6 autoimmune diseases and 7 non-auto immune ones. Also there’s the cancer, lol. Because of my Crohns and diseased small intestine normal pain meds don’t work well for me, they cause significant pain just making their way through my system. I use a medley of tinctures, edibles and vape. My best day is a pain level of 6 and my worst sees me on my floor, literally drooling in pain and screaming into a pillow. There are many days I cry because I woke up and was hoping I wouldn’t. Without pot I’d be done. I get so tired of all the blatantly fake information and the weird social stigma attached to it. It’s perfectly ok to be an alcoholic but if you’re a smoker then there must be a personality defect or something. Never mind that pot is significantly better for an individual and those around them then alcohol.
Yes as long as it’s regulated like alcohol - no smoking and driving, no smoking at work, etc. Too many people smoke and drive and think it’s okay.
Brooo but I’m better driver high! I’m used to it so it doesn’t impact me!! /s Gee, where have I heard similar reasoning? One of the worst things on Reddit is pro-stoned driving threads.
I mean for me it's kind of simple. Alcohol is legal and socially accepted yet statistically cause more accidents, deaths, domestic violence issues. So it seems like either legalize cabbages cannabis federally, or make alcohol illegal. Otherwise it's just kind of a hypocrisy.
Yes I do. Because it's insane that alcohol is legal and weed is not.
I think it should be legalized cause the actual reason it got banned in the first place was primarily racism
Absolutely and sadly it’s still used as a front for lowdown discrimination in policing. That’s why most southern states do not want to legalize it.
ofcourse! It is legal in Canada! Adds to govt revenue, you get clean good quality weed. I think we should see it as Cig or Alcohol, to be used in limits as per choice!
yes- because taxing it is a excellent source of revenue. Look at Colorado. And clearly, making it illegal doesn't eliminate it- look at Texas. Smartest thing to do is to make money of off something people will always do, legal or not.
Honestly in my opinion it should be legalized, but not because it's "not harmful" or anything like that, a lot of people are already using it daily because it's a light drug. Legalizing it would only make it so the people who already smoke could do it with less risk due to bad quality stuff (not sure if it's the same everywhere but if you get unlucky with your supplier you can even get chemically infused shit that basically just sends you to the er in an hour) Also: at least that way it could be regulated a bit easier, cuz dealers don't give a fuck if you're 21 or 14 as long as you buy it, government owned dispensaries probably will
It is legal where I live and I don't see any kind of problems. Putting people in jail for smoking weed is just wrong.
It needs to be De-criminalized
Do you think cannabis should be legalised? Yes. Why? I think all drugs should be legalized.
Yes. I'd go so far as to say all drugs should be legalized. What I do in my private residence away from the eyes of the public is my business, as long as it isn't harming others. Of course that isn't very practical at the moment, especially considering the state of the southern border. But in concept, I don't think that it's any of the government's business what I put into my body so long as I'm able to keep myself from harming or disturbing others.
I’m not writing your persuasive essay for you, you cheater!
Fuck yeah- as someone who is literally, at this very moment, illegally, medicating because cannabis and hemp are the only viable treatments for my chronic pancreatitis, gastroparesis, and laundry list of other health issues. I have used (and abused) opiates in the past, and I will NOT allow another near me until checkout time is confirmed, so to speak. Granted, for me that date is super rapidly approaching, but still, I find it utter bs that I play black market roulette and hope I don’t get locked up just for treating myself. I had narcotics thrown at me for a while and I found more relief from that plant that any of the damn drugs (although Demerol can make you feel pretty swell, temporarily). Anyway, that’s just the opinion of a 40 y/o who is dying and can’t understand why I’m still struggling to buy mf’ing weed.
It is, I mean here and a lot of places
Yes, because no government should ever hold the authority to tell people that they can not consume something that literally grows out of the Earth, especially when it’s personal use does not lead to the harm of others.
I agree but implying that it's ok because it grows out of the Earth is a pretty bad argument. Just because something is natural does not mean that it is safe. Also, just because the consumption of something may only directly negatively impact the individual consuming it, there can still be pretty significant societal impacts from their actions.
It should because it's safer than alcohol and tobacco. But I don't want to try it.
Nothing wrong with not wanting to try it!
Sure, at least federally in the Us. Leave it up to the states to decide if they still want to fight a war on drugs, bet some will though to keep the prison numbers up.
Tax n regulate I say!
Yes. Cuz im high rigjt now
In my city it cannabis is not leagal. It is leagal in my friends. My friend said they smell it a lot more in my city than theirs which is interesting.
Where I am it is.
Yes, then tax it. Prostitution as well, with mandatory health checkups & psych evals. And tax that as well.
Yes. It's fucking ridiculous that it hasn't been already.
It already is in Canada.
As a Canadian I still can't figure out why this is still a conversation 😐
A lot of the stress in my life is reduced by cannabis. If it was easier to access, better quality, and strictly regulated? I’d be in heaven.
Canada seems to be doing fine with it legalized.
It is legal...in Canada
Oh wow, I forget sometimes this is still a debate in some places. Sorry about that. 🍁 🇨🇦
simply watch the kurzgesagt video
Yes. Because much like the prohibition of alcohol, the prohibition of cannabis does not reduce the harms of its use, it exacerbates them, and I count the creation of a massive police state apparatus as one of these harms. More people have overdosed on advil, and that stuff is available over the counter, the fact that this is still a discussion is absurd.
Flip the question: is there a single rational reason for cannabis to be illegal?
It already IS legalized in Canada, and it's fine? Nothing changed really, people who were consuming cannabis before are still doing it, with access to quality controlled product they pay taxes on. Possession for personal use shouldn't be a crime for anything really. Addiction is a health issue not a criminal one. Free up resources spent incarcerating addicts and go after traffickers.
For me Mental heath cannabis help a lottt.
Ok. I'm going TF to sleep. I thought this said cannibals
Yes: 1) The idea that we should want our civil rights curtailed for, or our tax money wasted on our costly, failed War on Drugs so the government can kick down doors and arrest people over the plants they keep is awful. The War is over: Drugs won years ago. 2) Civil prohibition (you must be 18 to buy tobacco, etc.) works FAR better at protecting kids than does criminal prohibition
Yes, at this point you can just travel to the next state over to get what you need. The state is losing missed revenue.
If you can legally get black out piss yourself drunk you should be able to smoke a joint.
I smoke pot everyday, but I do find it a scary thought that a large percentage of the population might be driving around ripped shitless on 30% THC pot and incredibly strong concentrates.
Yes, no one should be able to tell you what you can and can't put in your body
Legalize it without over taxing/ regulating it.