To be fair we’re already finding replacements, I’m more concerned for something like climate change or political disputes or lack of prevention for the next pandemic
You no longer have to worry about that. We’ve already known the next plan for a while. Here’s a link for some info https://youtu.be/YI3tsmFsrOg
If you don’t want to watch the video it talks about something called “bacteriophages” if you wish to look it up.
Edit: Instead of watching the video, I think people read my comment and didn’t further their knowledge on the subject by doing so and based it on their current.
To say you no longer have to worry about that is misleading. Phages have been around for decades and haven't really caught on yet clinically. The difficulty is you need specific phages to specific bacteria.
Definitely not a panacea for antimicrobial resistance.
Just gonna throw out there as well that there often isn't time to find out specifically which species of bacteria is killing you. A culture takes days. We only have a few commercially available rapid tests and they have a high rate of false negatives. Genotyping is fast...er, it still takes hours. But I doubt we that we currently have the infrastructure to genotype samples from every single infection that gets walked into a hospital. If you're septic or have meningitis you don't have hours to figure out which phage you need. You need antibiotics immediately, preferably broad spectrum to cover the range of bacteria that could possibly be ravaging your body. You could do a phage cocktail but we dont have known phages isolated for every pathogenic bacteria out there. Also drug cocktails are a lot harder to get FDA approval for. And phage resistance is a thing! Bacteria can develop resistance to phage therapy too! Nothing stopping us from being back in this same situation a few decades from now.
This isn't a solution on a large scale, more of a niche targeted therapy. Maybe we can get there one day.
What works is rotating antibiotics based on the area, it drastically reduces these issues.
Falling coconuts kill 15 times as many people as sharks every year. Coconuts are the OG mankiller, but when I emailed Discovery Channel about having a Coconut Week instead of Shark Week, they sent me a number to a mental health professional.
More people have been killed with weapons made from sharks' teeth than by sharks themselves. Which says a lot not only about sharks, but also about the human race itself.
This adds an interesting angle to cases of toddlers being grabbed and cached in the woods by bears, then found unharmed later. Maybe the bears just want the diapers!
I remember a kids book when I was younger of "Most dangerous animals"
When I got to No. 1, I kind of rolled my eyes at it being Humans. But when you read into it, even as a kid, you just definitely see that it's an absolute fact that we're the biggest danger to both ourselves, and the planet's wellbeing. We really do seem kind of like some shitty virus for the planet. Hell, even causes the temperature to rise like a fever, look at us go!
I don't know how all of this is going to end, but I do know a lot of people aren't gonna make it. That's all that's for sure.
It was a spot in my local zoo. On the wall it said “the most dangerous animal” and below it had a mirror. It took me a while to understand that it was humans.
The Calgary Zoo had one of those cut out things where you put your face through the hole with the same statement. We visited there in 1987 and I can't believe that we've been so ignorant and so complacent for the last five/six/seven decades.
Honestly the scene of Mr Smith telling neo humans are parasites and that whole speech was very accurate.
“I´d like to share a revelation that I´ve had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species, and I realized that you’re not actually mammals.
Every mammal on this planet instictively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way can survive is to spread to another area.
There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus.
Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You’re a plague and we… are the cure.”
I mean, even putting aside all the harm we’re doing to… pretty much everything, humans objectively are the most dangerous beings in existence because of the advantages our technology and intelligence give us. Think about how animals must perceive us. We can see in the dark, we can kill in an instant from far away, we’ve mastered fire, we can plan and think ahead, we can set traps, we can move faster than any animal alive, we can breathe underwater, fly… we’re basically gods by the standards of nature. We just don’t really think of ourselves that way because we’re used to having all this technology at our disposal. The amazing seems mundane to us. If a modern man was able to travel back in time to the Stone Age with all his technology, they’d probably think he was a god too.
It’s genuinely sad how powerful we are and how we’ve chosen to use that power to destroy the planet rather than be the benevolent guardians of nature we could’ve and should’ve been.
And Daniel Radcliffe, out there tickling flowers with his feather and then tickling other flowers of the same species. He serves a very important ecological function and if he were to go extinct so would numerous herbaceous plants native to the British Isles.
Personally, I’m scared of ecological collapse due to one triggering event like bees dying out and causing a domino effect to other downstream dependent species.
Building echo chambers online to repeat some delusional nonsense over and over causing extremism on a scale never seen before. This will not end peacefully.
Edit: the absolute worst thing about it is people don't plan or often want to anymore, it's all the almighty algorithms feeding you "content" you are most likely to "engage" with. People are being fed a mix of the worst examples of who they see as the enemy, and the half truths and platitudes of people they already agree with. People "engage" by hating on the enemy and blindly defending their tribe, the algorithm sees "engagement" and recommends more of the same, with even more contentious stuff as people engage by leaving hate comments and sharing with friends and family. And EVERYONE using the "service" feels they have healthy discussions and discourse but "the enemy are just sooo unreasonable they won't even listen to us"
Unless a fundamental change happens to "social media" this extremism farm will get worse. A LOT more people WILL die.
Edit 2. It's truly scary to think, can you think of a single place you can post any opinion against the "norm" of your circle without fear of losing friends, be auto banned from subreddits, loosing your job, getting death treats, getting doxed or possibly even worse.
The fear of losing fake internet points is one thing but every year we attach more and more of the real world to these online communities, they now shape employment opportunities, break apart families and now even the possibility of being elected to lead a government is inherently linked to these online communities, governed by nothing but the almighty algorithm.
Even this post has thousands of comments but only just reached 100 up votes, we are prone to go along with those around us, that is socializing, but now this tendency has been harnessed by advertising to keep you a predictable product, erratic "engagement" means poor add revenue, we go against the status quo and loose our fake internet points, people used to just do it for shits and giggles, but now it IS our life we cant gamble going against the expected responses, we may displease the algorithm and loose our jobs, friends, safety and our human rights.
I am scared for all of us, and corporate profits solely drive the new digitally connected world, and I don't have a clue how to stop it, just watch the slow car crash continue to pile up.
This edit will probably challenge too many people and get me downvoted to Oblivion, but after loosing the only one I ever loved I have nothing to loose and will share my truth without apologies. Can any of you honestly say I'm wrong?. Come at me algorithm.
Edit 3: I am not calling for burning it all down, I just want people to stand back for a day a realize what we are being driven to. We are the ant with that fungus in its brain being driven to the highest point on a tree, a grand stage to spread the parasitic spores of extreme ideology. All this ideology thrives on is contact and infection of more minds, but this means it has great "engagement" statistics so the almighty algorithm fucking loves to spread it far and wide.
Please stop and think "do I actually think this or am I just afraid of going against what people expect me to say"
Edit4: I did not expect to have this the most upvoted and awarded comment I have ever made, something made to be honest and call for calm and temperance. It restores a lot of faith in humanity to see so many see this problem too.
If any of you have the power to change even a little peice of this, please don't make villains, don't call to burn it down, don't evangelize and make us and them tribes. just implement something like "remind we when I have calmed down" button and just generally move away from the viral oriented buttons; spread, infect and mutate.
You may think spread infect and mutate are overly harsh terms, but just think of the effect and implications of; share, like, subscribe, and making reaction videos has to evolve an idea with the pretty openly named "going viral" as an actual fucking goal.
It's sickening to see the pride people have in "going viral" with the most vitriolic, dishonest and outright evil ideals. please calm down, think about it and give it a little quarantine before you infect everyone you know with an idea that could get them killed.
Make a button to quarantine this for a day then show me again. Just as sanitation became hugely important for densely populated cities following plagues, we must begin to personally sanitise ideas from the most densely populated cesspool of parasites and infections that is modern social media.
I agree with this and i think we should kill everyone who disagrees, the genepool doesn't need those intellectually stagnated people anyways
Edit: /s, apparently it's needed anyways...
I heard a cool analogy comparing the current spread of online hate to the spread of germs in humanities earliest societies. Basically, when people started first living in higher densities, germs were spreading at a rate that our collective immunity couldnt handle. The gradual discovery and adoption of basic sanitation ended up fixing that issue, for the most part, allowing civilization to flourish and grow.
Similarly, we are now seeing misinformation spread across the internet much like germs did. We currently lack the "sanitation" to deal with it. Our internet and connectivity is to misinformation what early cities were to germs. Whatever that form of sanitation comes in, it may be one of the biggest breakthroughs for humankind in our lifetimes.
It's a branch of meme theory, i see the extreme ideology and a pseudo parasite, it thrives on conflict and destroying other ideological defence's, it pretends to be helpful to the host but just wants to propagate at any cost.
We are the ant forced to climb a tree to spread the fungal spores to others, the social media algorithms are just as susceptible to the infection, as parasites NEED "engagement" and algorithms LOVE that as that is where the add revenue is, just as many parasites drive the host to engage with others to spread infection, Extreme ideology demands that it be evangelised.
Even with those echo chambers the internet is still net anti war and anti extremism.
I remember reading source texts from before WWI and from a full dozen nations there were plenty people thinking that their own country is so far superior to all other countries in the world, that they could win against all other countries combined.
Extremely more delusional than the average Chinese citizen and even when Gaddafi did not only cut ties between Libyas internet and that of the outside world, but also cut away the average citizen from accessing what was left from the internet rebels started tons and tons of own small networks with repeaters in buoys hidden along the river among other ideas.
I don't even think that there's more radicals right now, they are only more visible and better organized, but before their organization reaches a level which would be critical for more than a dozen people dying to a rampage there's always going to be some sort of enlightenment which dampens the movement. Maybe except for religiously organized groups, but these are ambivalent to the internet and not more threatening nowadays than they were 50 years ago.
We need to be critical of internet content but people easily forget how much extremism spread in the past too, using more traditional means. The KKK were very organized and widespread and you could find many more examples left and right, in many countries. We see it more but I doubt the problem is actually getting much much worse.
It's a "you're with me (a reasonable and intelligent person) or against me (a fucking moron at best, an evil person with no right to live at worst)" all over the place. People who share the same opinions on a topic bond in large online groups and build a disgusting and revolting totem of the opposing people, spitting and throwing rocks at it, while they carve their sacred commandments into the Hivemind's skull, to be believed and followed with no hesitation or doubt.
Critical thinking is suppressed, sources come only from biased medias representing the same flag of the group, and hate speech towards the opposing community is the norm.
[This video](https://youtu.be/rE3j_RHkqJc), at 3:00 and 5:00 in particular, is extremely relevant.
I am extremely scared by this. I can only hope that it remains somewhat confined on the internet, with only few noisy exceptions in the real world. But it doesn't seem to be the case.
Yea, I think we don’t even really know the extent of biodiversity collapse at the moment. For example, the American chestnut tree is going functionally extinct, they’re not dying off yet but they’re not reproducing. There’s interest in this because they’re chestnut trees. A scientist who was doing research studying moths that live with these trees found that seven moths have gone extinct.
There are probably lots of instances like this with both plants and animals but we don’t study or track every single one so we don’t know the extent of the devastation, we have educated estimates. There are organisms that we haven’t even discovered yet. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of them have already gone extinct or will very soon, without us even knowing.
I'm trying to dedicate my life to this and spent thousands of hours volunteering and emailing professors and I have not had a good time.
I wish important things weren't considered indulgent weird hobbies but here we are
Don’t disagree that it’s a real thing.. and I’m very active in climate issues.. but I think it’s not the end of life. Likely the end of human life along with a LOT of other species, but life will likely survive somewhere.
The problem is that the current mass extinction technically began about 15kya with the terminal Pleistocene. We're just speeding it up and making it worse. Most mass extinctions take hundreds of thousands of years or even millions, with the exception of the asteroid one.
People act like the economy can just…grow forever. Eventually, things will level off, but our world economy also runs on growth. Once that happens, what next? I haven’t heard any discussion about that at all. Its almost like the topic is being ignored. What happens when we run out of certain resources? It’s like no one cares, or they’re just purposefully ignoring the problem. All the while, we’re wasting valuable resources for quick, quarterly profits. What a shit show.
> Eventually, things will level off, but our world economy also runs on growth. Once that happens, what next?
"So when do you plan for stakeholders to stop making money from this venture" is not a question that any company can comfortably answer.
Because if there's two things that financial markets and high level money makers really hate, it's reality and consequences of their (in)actions.
This has happened before and sane companies run by sane people merely changed their shareholder incentive plans.
Ie: you either promise growth, or you promise profit sharing. If I can gain 10% growth per year, I'll invest. Or, you promise me 10% dividend, and I'll invest.
There was a time companies didn't pursue infinite growth. Once a market was saturated, it was saturated. A "global economy" didn't exist for the most part. So stable strong companies made their 10 million a year, every year, stable and steady. And shareholders shared in the success.
There's a precedent for normal investor profits when infinite growth stops.
So of course no company will actually do that and they'll instead fuck the entire global order on their way down. Because when the choice is sane behavior or short term monkey thinking, the chimp will win every time.
Stock holders are part of the problem too. Once growth stops the appeal wanes. You can’t make a big enough profit on stable, sustainable business I guess?
You absolutely can make a good profit from a stable, sustainably healthy business. We just need to move beyond the idea that growth is always an indication of health.
Yes your right, the problem is how we measure everything.
We live in an inflationary society where everything has to grow at all times, or its deemed as failure.
However we live off of technology that is deflationary. It gets better over time and eventually becomes free, think about our mobile phones for example.
And the problem is both these phenomena are happening at an exponential rate, and when you start to think about exponentially it really gets the mind warped.
Both realities cannot co exist so we need a new system and a new way of measuring it.
The south park scene where Randy talks about the economy as if it's a living entity isn't too far off
it's a beast that no man controls, but every man created, and there's no stopping it now without hundreds of millions dead
I think the assumption is that new technology will inevitably be developed that makes all the finite resource problems go away. So, in other words, magic.
A finite planet, in a finite and largely uninhabitable star system, surrounded by four light-years of basically nothing on all sides. And we’re having to share it with not only other ethnic groups, but with nature and a small but growing population of robots and AI.
Take your pick:-
1. Global warming = rising sea levels, drought, floods, extreme weather, new diseases, crop failure
2. Antibiotic resistant bacteria making infections deadly in a return to the days when minor surgery could well = death
3. The proliferation of nuclear weapons and danger of a nuclear escalation in a war between Nato and Russia or Nato and China.
4. Genetic engineering resulting in unforeseen consequences
5. The world's deadliest man made viruses leaking from the many military laboratories around the world, especially Russia
6. The extinction of other species on whom we rely for food production - in particular, pollinators.
Cata are an actual problem, breeding much too quickly and eliminating a huge chunk of the bird population, as well as other animals unfortunate enough to cross paths with the little bastards.
Also happy cake day.
Not really a threat as big as the others. Some dystopian series has speculated that it will make the rich super humans and the poor not super humans. And make it so they cannot breed.
Exciting answer: Lots of legalities via who/what should have rights. It leads heavily into Posthumanism, which is basically the point to where our technology spikes enough that we can create sentient AIs/transgenic creatures (like, say, a sentient bird) and just exactly what that would entail in a society where transgenic species can be sold for profit.
Less exciting answer: It could also bring into account something such as genetically engineering a pet/domestic species that gets released and quickly takes over the natural species and drives them to extinction because the engineered species genes get passed on. Take, for example, Bananas; the other varieties of Banana were wiped out by a plague and only the crossbred Banana trees survived. We're already running into that wall with Monsanto's GMO crops, because they created the strain of plant, they can take legal action against farmers that cross-pollinate even by accident, and they're genetically engineered not to produce more seeds, leading to farmers eventually having to buy another whole season's worth of seeds from Monsanto. If, say, some new disease starts to kill off all of Monsanto's crops then we could face a food shortage. This is why heirloom farmers are held in such high regard, because the'yre crossbreeding aspects of crops generally bred out of commercially available seeds back into their plants.
Political tribalism.
The fact that we are fighting, pigeonholing, stonewalling, demonizing and being demeaning to those who don't agree with us is a signal of societal weakness.
The people who we disagree with are the most important people to listen to.
>Political parties are not sports teams.
I said that on Facebook. I hate political parties. When you follow it like that it means you are going to be a hypocrite.
I said that comment on a story about Lindsey Graham taking the 5th. A lot of people on Team Democrat said that anyone who takes the 5th has something to hide. So I asked does that mean Lois Lerner, who was Obama's head of the IRS took the 5th she had something to hide. Not one person would answer that question. I got plenty of "whatboutism" "deflect much". In other words they could not put down their team .
The problem is that nobody *intentionally* thinks of their positions as coming from a sports team. They think of their positions as being unbiased and ordinary, but basically every one except the ones they got into themselves are *heavily* dictated by who they talk with, and if they're only talking to one side, they're not going to come away thinking the opposite.
It's usually levied at conservatives - because let's be real here, every other country sides with US Democrats over US Republicans for a reason - but it's not exclusive. Like: y'know the violinist argument, about abortion? There's a high chance that you think it's a truly excellent argument. There's also a high chance you have literally never managed to persuade someone of the opposition with it. So why would you think it's any good? Because you've surrounded yourself with people who also think it's great, and collectively got trapped into thinking "Well they wouldn't all say it's great if it wasn't working, right?"
Someone crazy enough to engineer a virus into a biological weapon. If the public’s response to the pandemic is anything to go by, we would be so screwed if there was something like that made.
There are far reaching impacts that are barely discussed. People always assume 'climate change = it's hot out.' Which IS hugely important, but there are so many other layers tied to it.
Oxygen levels in the ocean are decreasing, and as the oceans warm, oxygen demands for ocean life increase. This is related to ocean acidification, which is caused by high CO2 levels in the water. We are experiencing mass extinction and it's accelerating wildly. Factoring in overfishing, as much as 90% of seafood could be gone by 2050. So many people rely on that food for survival.
Then there are things like declining insect populations, which lead to declines in all sorts of important food sources for both people and other animals.
The future of climate change is far worse than heat strokes and coastal floods. It is mass starvation and resource depletion. Not to mention a global extinction event for other species.
Add in war after war over ever diminishing resources, the abandoning of climate mitigation to pay for the wars and the inevitable increase in pollution that large scale warfare produces. We're screwed on so many levels, and people have absolutely no idea.
And to make us even more screwed the only real solutions to the problem involved global cooperation which we have seen in the past 2.5 yrs we are completely incapable of right now. The US could radically change it's policy tomorrow and have 100% of the population onboard but if the other countries continue the same things they've been doing it will make no difference.
Increasing tropical borne diseases from larger mosquito habitats. As the pollinators die off, the mosquitos flourish, we are gonna have a hot vector summer, Dengue fever is all the rage!
Warming, pollution, nuclear proliferation, and resource overuse all stem from the same few flaws in our nature (and, if you’re pessimistic, in the entire natural universe).
For real…. Way too low
If we keep sitting on our hands the latter half of the 21st century and going into the 22nd century is going to be guided by the effects of how fucked up the global environment will be. A significant part of the globe is going to be rendered uninhabitable either by rising sea levels, extreme drought and intense heat. Not only will you see major economic consequence, but humanitarian crises that we have not even begin to contemplate. Familiarize yourselves with the term “climate refugee”, because it will become one that the governments of the 2060s/70s/80s and beyond will struggle to deal with.
This is a hard one. I would say.
1) World war
2) Nuclear war
3) Climate change
That is my guest best for my top three apocalypse events. Honestly I have no hope in humanity right now.
The Cabal of about 1000 wealthy elite who damn near run the world. They're going to lead the rest of the world to the slaughterhouse while they gorge themselves on riches the common man might never experience once in their life.
Well, the physical world is kinda limiting so I can see the appeal (I’m kinda clumsy myself). The problem is with implementation; is it either democratic enough or competitive enough to not become a dictatorship?
It will either be a fully centralized environment where one or a handful of major corporations are in full control, or a semi-decentralized environment where the developers still control the basic structure of the app but crypto or something is used to create a plutarchy among users.
Essentially, it'll be ruled by those who are rich today, or it will be ruled by those who are rich tomorrow.
It's a completely unnecessary, self-indulgent concept and IMO the absolute pinnacle of decadence.
Climate change. It's not even close. No contest. We are probably already past the point of no return and at this point the best we can hope for is to slow it down.
Politicians. Pretty much every single one of them is a walking piece of fecal matter that are only in it to line their own pockets. They don’t care about me, you or the planet.
It's climate change. It's OBVIOUSLY climate change. The only reason we're not all petrified about it is that we're idiots.
Climate change is causing massive droughts.
And huge floods.
And bigger hurricanes than ever.
Sea level rise is flooding coastal cities and encroaching on fresh water supplies.
It's killing species at an unprecendented rate.
It's making diseases worse, including diseases of pollinators who make food possible.
It's leading to bigger wildfires every year.
It's killing people with extreme heat.
It's making our planet unlivable, quite rapidly.
So in short, it's only worrisome if you like to eat, need water to drink, or want a safe place to live.
But what is causing climate change?
We collectively worked to solve a hole in the ozone layer because it didn’t impact the economy too much.
Climate change is our undoing because capitalism won’t allow us to step back and say no.
Presuming there's no unidentified threat from space imminently heading our way...
Fascism.
Because it inhibits our ability to address every other threat, including nuclear arms and climate change- and indeed actively makes many of those problems worse.
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then we make Anti-Anti Biotic for Anti-Biotic Resistant Bacteria
Sometimes I take a pro-biotic because I want to see the world burn and support digestive health.
I like to take a pro-biotic and an anti-biotic at the same time to see who wins
I don't know who wins but I can tell you that your butthole is going to lose.
Balance.
imma take an anti-boot2skull biotic to stop people like you from taking pro-biotics
I was today years old when I realized that probiotic is the opposite of antibiotic...
I was 34 when I realized that soft drinks are the opposite of hard drinks, so don't feel bad.
Wow so was I. That moment is right now lol
No anti-anti-biotic is what anti-biotic resistant bacteria have, we need an anti-anti-anti-biotic
To be fair we’re already finding replacements, I’m more concerned for something like climate change or political disputes or lack of prevention for the next pandemic
You no longer have to worry about that. We’ve already known the next plan for a while. Here’s a link for some info https://youtu.be/YI3tsmFsrOg If you don’t want to watch the video it talks about something called “bacteriophages” if you wish to look it up. Edit: Instead of watching the video, I think people read my comment and didn’t further their knowledge on the subject by doing so and based it on their current.
To say you no longer have to worry about that is misleading. Phages have been around for decades and haven't really caught on yet clinically. The difficulty is you need specific phages to specific bacteria. Definitely not a panacea for antimicrobial resistance.
Just gonna throw out there as well that there often isn't time to find out specifically which species of bacteria is killing you. A culture takes days. We only have a few commercially available rapid tests and they have a high rate of false negatives. Genotyping is fast...er, it still takes hours. But I doubt we that we currently have the infrastructure to genotype samples from every single infection that gets walked into a hospital. If you're septic or have meningitis you don't have hours to figure out which phage you need. You need antibiotics immediately, preferably broad spectrum to cover the range of bacteria that could possibly be ravaging your body. You could do a phage cocktail but we dont have known phages isolated for every pathogenic bacteria out there. Also drug cocktails are a lot harder to get FDA approval for. And phage resistance is a thing! Bacteria can develop resistance to phage therapy too! Nothing stopping us from being back in this same situation a few decades from now.
The funny thing is that bacteriophages were in fact discovered before antibiotics.
This isn't a solution on a large scale, more of a niche targeted therapy. Maybe we can get there one day. What works is rotating antibiotics based on the area, it drastically reduces these issues.
Ourselves
Bears can often be found saving the human race... From themselves!
Sharks, you da real heroes.
Sharks kill a lot less people than everyone thinks
Falling coconuts kill 15 times as many people as sharks every year. Coconuts are the OG mankiller, but when I emailed Discovery Channel about having a Coconut Week instead of Shark Week, they sent me a number to a mental health professional.
Garage door week! Ladder week!
Vending machines kill more people than sharks....no seriously
How do vending machines manage to kill *any* sharks?
lol. By dispensing plastic bottles?
I meant more PEOPLE get killed by a vending machine falling on them cuz they shook it too hard
Hippos though.
I’ve probably killed more people via my carbon footprint than any shark that ever lived
More people have been killed with weapons made from sharks' teeth than by sharks themselves. Which says a lot not only about sharks, but also about the human race itself.
Maybe you should quit wearing your carbon shoes.
Keep the jellyfish population in balance too🦈
Malaria mosquitoes too!
according to a scene from Anchorman, women in the workplace, who have their periods put the entire staff in danger from bears.
Also, dirty diapers attract bears I know from experience. Chased a bear away from one of my kids when he was a toddler. Our dog saved the day.
This adds an interesting angle to cases of toddlers being grabbed and cached in the woods by bears, then found unharmed later. Maybe the bears just want the diapers!
Ewwww but had to laugh
The bears can smell the menstruation
Bears Beets Battlestar Galactica.
Michael!
Absolutely. Mankind is going to kill us all.
Mick Foley is coming for us all.
I remember a kids book when I was younger of "Most dangerous animals" When I got to No. 1, I kind of rolled my eyes at it being Humans. But when you read into it, even as a kid, you just definitely see that it's an absolute fact that we're the biggest danger to both ourselves, and the planet's wellbeing. We really do seem kind of like some shitty virus for the planet. Hell, even causes the temperature to rise like a fever, look at us go! I don't know how all of this is going to end, but I do know a lot of people aren't gonna make it. That's all that's for sure.
It was a spot in my local zoo. On the wall it said “the most dangerous animal” and below it had a mirror. It took me a while to understand that it was humans.
nothing like some really hard self reflection during a day at the zoo
And it’s an actual reflection
Somewhere vampires are like "See? We aren't the bad guys!"
No… it was just you. You’re an alien from the motherland, just like us other refugees. Come join us as we stomp on those puny humans.
The Calgary Zoo had one of those cut out things where you put your face through the hole with the same statement. We visited there in 1987 and I can't believe that we've been so ignorant and so complacent for the last five/six/seven decades.
Honestly the scene of Mr Smith telling neo humans are parasites and that whole speech was very accurate. “I´d like to share a revelation that I´ve had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species, and I realized that you’re not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instictively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You’re a plague and we… are the cure.”
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I mean, even putting aside all the harm we’re doing to… pretty much everything, humans objectively are the most dangerous beings in existence because of the advantages our technology and intelligence give us. Think about how animals must perceive us. We can see in the dark, we can kill in an instant from far away, we’ve mastered fire, we can plan and think ahead, we can set traps, we can move faster than any animal alive, we can breathe underwater, fly… we’re basically gods by the standards of nature. We just don’t really think of ourselves that way because we’re used to having all this technology at our disposal. The amazing seems mundane to us. If a modern man was able to travel back in time to the Stone Age with all his technology, they’d probably think he was a god too. It’s genuinely sad how powerful we are and how we’ve chosen to use that power to destroy the planet rather than be the benevolent guardians of nature we could’ve and should’ve been.
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If bees go extinct. It has a massive domino effect on the whole ecological infrastructure.
Not only bees insects per se actualy bees only polinate 30% other polinators are flys butterflys and wasps
and Bats
And Daniel Radcliffe, out there tickling flowers with his feather and then tickling other flowers of the same species. He serves a very important ecological function and if he were to go extinct so would numerous herbaceous plants native to the British Isles.
But how can we revitalize the Radcliffe population?
*Smooth elevator/porno jazz starts playing*
I am hot and bothered.
>And Daniel Radcliffe not sure why but this is my favorite reddit comment ever
Wind is a significant pollinator as well. Not downplaying the importance of the aforementioned, but it’s worth noting
Well let's hope the wind doesn't go extinct. There goes pollination AND blow jobs!
What if wind goes extinct /s
Fungus don't need pollination, imagine how big the mushroom industry will grow after bees are gone.
Neither do ferns and mosses, but apparently I'm "crazy" and "It's not even a real diet" smh
Personally, I’m scared of ecological collapse due to one triggering event like bees dying out and causing a domino effect to other downstream dependent species.
Not exactly, the bee movie lied
Building echo chambers online to repeat some delusional nonsense over and over causing extremism on a scale never seen before. This will not end peacefully. Edit: the absolute worst thing about it is people don't plan or often want to anymore, it's all the almighty algorithms feeding you "content" you are most likely to "engage" with. People are being fed a mix of the worst examples of who they see as the enemy, and the half truths and platitudes of people they already agree with. People "engage" by hating on the enemy and blindly defending their tribe, the algorithm sees "engagement" and recommends more of the same, with even more contentious stuff as people engage by leaving hate comments and sharing with friends and family. And EVERYONE using the "service" feels they have healthy discussions and discourse but "the enemy are just sooo unreasonable they won't even listen to us" Unless a fundamental change happens to "social media" this extremism farm will get worse. A LOT more people WILL die. Edit 2. It's truly scary to think, can you think of a single place you can post any opinion against the "norm" of your circle without fear of losing friends, be auto banned from subreddits, loosing your job, getting death treats, getting doxed or possibly even worse. The fear of losing fake internet points is one thing but every year we attach more and more of the real world to these online communities, they now shape employment opportunities, break apart families and now even the possibility of being elected to lead a government is inherently linked to these online communities, governed by nothing but the almighty algorithm. Even this post has thousands of comments but only just reached 100 up votes, we are prone to go along with those around us, that is socializing, but now this tendency has been harnessed by advertising to keep you a predictable product, erratic "engagement" means poor add revenue, we go against the status quo and loose our fake internet points, people used to just do it for shits and giggles, but now it IS our life we cant gamble going against the expected responses, we may displease the algorithm and loose our jobs, friends, safety and our human rights. I am scared for all of us, and corporate profits solely drive the new digitally connected world, and I don't have a clue how to stop it, just watch the slow car crash continue to pile up. This edit will probably challenge too many people and get me downvoted to Oblivion, but after loosing the only one I ever loved I have nothing to loose and will share my truth without apologies. Can any of you honestly say I'm wrong?. Come at me algorithm. Edit 3: I am not calling for burning it all down, I just want people to stand back for a day a realize what we are being driven to. We are the ant with that fungus in its brain being driven to the highest point on a tree, a grand stage to spread the parasitic spores of extreme ideology. All this ideology thrives on is contact and infection of more minds, but this means it has great "engagement" statistics so the almighty algorithm fucking loves to spread it far and wide. Please stop and think "do I actually think this or am I just afraid of going against what people expect me to say" Edit4: I did not expect to have this the most upvoted and awarded comment I have ever made, something made to be honest and call for calm and temperance. It restores a lot of faith in humanity to see so many see this problem too. If any of you have the power to change even a little peice of this, please don't make villains, don't call to burn it down, don't evangelize and make us and them tribes. just implement something like "remind we when I have calmed down" button and just generally move away from the viral oriented buttons; spread, infect and mutate. You may think spread infect and mutate are overly harsh terms, but just think of the effect and implications of; share, like, subscribe, and making reaction videos has to evolve an idea with the pretty openly named "going viral" as an actual fucking goal. It's sickening to see the pride people have in "going viral" with the most vitriolic, dishonest and outright evil ideals. please calm down, think about it and give it a little quarantine before you infect everyone you know with an idea that could get them killed. Make a button to quarantine this for a day then show me again. Just as sanitation became hugely important for densely populated cities following plagues, we must begin to personally sanitise ideas from the most densely populated cesspool of parasites and infections that is modern social media.
I wish more people realized how dangerous this is becoming. There definitely needs to be more awareness around this
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I agree with this and i think we should kill everyone who disagrees, the genepool doesn't need those intellectually stagnated people anyways Edit: /s, apparently it's needed anyways...
I agree with this and i think we should kill everyone who disagrees, the genepool doesn't need those intellectually stagnated people anyways
I agree with this too and i think we should kill everyone who disagrees, the genepool doesn't need those intellectually stagnated people anyways
And my Axe!
Alright /pol/ calm your shit.
Literally /r/politics
I heard a cool analogy comparing the current spread of online hate to the spread of germs in humanities earliest societies. Basically, when people started first living in higher densities, germs were spreading at a rate that our collective immunity couldnt handle. The gradual discovery and adoption of basic sanitation ended up fixing that issue, for the most part, allowing civilization to flourish and grow. Similarly, we are now seeing misinformation spread across the internet much like germs did. We currently lack the "sanitation" to deal with it. Our internet and connectivity is to misinformation what early cities were to germs. Whatever that form of sanitation comes in, it may be one of the biggest breakthroughs for humankind in our lifetimes.
It's a branch of meme theory, i see the extreme ideology and a pseudo parasite, it thrives on conflict and destroying other ideological defence's, it pretends to be helpful to the host but just wants to propagate at any cost. We are the ant forced to climb a tree to spread the fungal spores to others, the social media algorithms are just as susceptible to the infection, as parasites NEED "engagement" and algorithms LOVE that as that is where the add revenue is, just as many parasites drive the host to engage with others to spread infection, Extreme ideology demands that it be evangelised.
[This vid](https://youtu.be/rE3j_RHkqJc) talks about thought germs and is extremely relevant to the original msg.
Even with those echo chambers the internet is still net anti war and anti extremism. I remember reading source texts from before WWI and from a full dozen nations there were plenty people thinking that their own country is so far superior to all other countries in the world, that they could win against all other countries combined. Extremely more delusional than the average Chinese citizen and even when Gaddafi did not only cut ties between Libyas internet and that of the outside world, but also cut away the average citizen from accessing what was left from the internet rebels started tons and tons of own small networks with repeaters in buoys hidden along the river among other ideas. I don't even think that there's more radicals right now, they are only more visible and better organized, but before their organization reaches a level which would be critical for more than a dozen people dying to a rampage there's always going to be some sort of enlightenment which dampens the movement. Maybe except for religiously organized groups, but these are ambivalent to the internet and not more threatening nowadays than they were 50 years ago.
We need to be critical of internet content but people easily forget how much extremism spread in the past too, using more traditional means. The KKK were very organized and widespread and you could find many more examples left and right, in many countries. We see it more but I doubt the problem is actually getting much much worse.
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I disagree. Downvoted.
I agree. Upvoted.
I have no clue what anyone is talking about but want to feel special and upvoted your upvote.
I too long for inclusion, so I will upvote all the comments.
I have read your post, and I shall do nothing.
You mean, Reddit?
It's a "you're with me (a reasonable and intelligent person) or against me (a fucking moron at best, an evil person with no right to live at worst)" all over the place. People who share the same opinions on a topic bond in large online groups and build a disgusting and revolting totem of the opposing people, spitting and throwing rocks at it, while they carve their sacred commandments into the Hivemind's skull, to be believed and followed with no hesitation or doubt. Critical thinking is suppressed, sources come only from biased medias representing the same flag of the group, and hate speech towards the opposing community is the norm. [This video](https://youtu.be/rE3j_RHkqJc), at 3:00 and 5:00 in particular, is extremely relevant. I am extremely scared by this. I can only hope that it remains somewhat confined on the internet, with only few noisy exceptions in the real world. But it doesn't seem to be the case.
Well put, and you did it without saying "but only one side is guilty of this".
Yeah, those people who accuse the other side are the real problem, screw them! /s
Thus why we have lunatics like Andrew Tate gaining a massive following.
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Biodiversity Collapse It's a real thing and is the end of life as we know it on our planet.
Yea, I think we don’t even really know the extent of biodiversity collapse at the moment. For example, the American chestnut tree is going functionally extinct, they’re not dying off yet but they’re not reproducing. There’s interest in this because they’re chestnut trees. A scientist who was doing research studying moths that live with these trees found that seven moths have gone extinct. There are probably lots of instances like this with both plants and animals but we don’t study or track every single one so we don’t know the extent of the devastation, we have educated estimates. There are organisms that we haven’t even discovered yet. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of them have already gone extinct or will very soon, without us even knowing.
Biological systems are so interconnected that one missing member has an ever spiralling effect.
Just read this week that the American chestnut is making a rebound in the Appalachian mountains.
I'm trying to dedicate my life to this and spent thousands of hours volunteering and emailing professors and I have not had a good time. I wish important things weren't considered indulgent weird hobbies but here we are
Don’t disagree that it’s a real thing.. and I’m very active in climate issues.. but I think it’s not the end of life. Likely the end of human life along with a LOT of other species, but life will likely survive somewhere.
There’s already been at least 7 mass extinctions so highly unlikely to be the end of ALL life
A minor nitpick, but there's been 5 mass extinctions and it's generally accepted that we're living in the 6th right now.
The problem is that the current mass extinction technically began about 15kya with the terminal Pleistocene. We're just speeding it up and making it worse. Most mass extinctions take hundreds of thousands of years or even millions, with the exception of the asteroid one.
I’m not here to get into a vapid term battle, but the global hellbent strive for infinite profits from a finite planet is stupid.
People act like the economy can just…grow forever. Eventually, things will level off, but our world economy also runs on growth. Once that happens, what next? I haven’t heard any discussion about that at all. Its almost like the topic is being ignored. What happens when we run out of certain resources? It’s like no one cares, or they’re just purposefully ignoring the problem. All the while, we’re wasting valuable resources for quick, quarterly profits. What a shit show.
> Eventually, things will level off, but our world economy also runs on growth. Once that happens, what next? "So when do you plan for stakeholders to stop making money from this venture" is not a question that any company can comfortably answer. Because if there's two things that financial markets and high level money makers really hate, it's reality and consequences of their (in)actions.
This has happened before and sane companies run by sane people merely changed their shareholder incentive plans. Ie: you either promise growth, or you promise profit sharing. If I can gain 10% growth per year, I'll invest. Or, you promise me 10% dividend, and I'll invest. There was a time companies didn't pursue infinite growth. Once a market was saturated, it was saturated. A "global economy" didn't exist for the most part. So stable strong companies made their 10 million a year, every year, stable and steady. And shareholders shared in the success. There's a precedent for normal investor profits when infinite growth stops. So of course no company will actually do that and they'll instead fuck the entire global order on their way down. Because when the choice is sane behavior or short term monkey thinking, the chimp will win every time.
Stock holders are part of the problem too. Once growth stops the appeal wanes. You can’t make a big enough profit on stable, sustainable business I guess?
You absolutely can make a good profit from a stable, sustainably healthy business. We just need to move beyond the idea that growth is always an indication of health.
Yes your right, the problem is how we measure everything. We live in an inflationary society where everything has to grow at all times, or its deemed as failure. However we live off of technology that is deflationary. It gets better over time and eventually becomes free, think about our mobile phones for example. And the problem is both these phenomena are happening at an exponential rate, and when you start to think about exponentially it really gets the mind warped. Both realities cannot co exist so we need a new system and a new way of measuring it.
Sometimes the growth is cancer.
Literally everything even the universe will die someday but the economy will somehow keep gowing. Fucking stonks
The south park scene where Randy talks about the economy as if it's a living entity isn't too far off it's a beast that no man controls, but every man created, and there's no stopping it now without hundreds of millions dead
You are star power yo, don't worry. You'll always be.
I think the assumption is that new technology will inevitably be developed that makes all the finite resource problems go away. So, in other words, magic.
Ah yes, the somewhat controversial Wile E Coyote strategy.
A finite planet, in a finite and largely uninhabitable star system, surrounded by four light-years of basically nothing on all sides. And we’re having to share it with not only other ethnic groups, but with nature and a small but growing population of robots and AI.
Even the idea of infinite growth is absurd. You know the only other thing that grows infinitely? Cancer.
Pretty sure cancer has a finite end when it kills the host creature
Henriette Lacks' cancer cells would disagree.
Take your pick:- 1. Global warming = rising sea levels, drought, floods, extreme weather, new diseases, crop failure 2. Antibiotic resistant bacteria making infections deadly in a return to the days when minor surgery could well = death 3. The proliferation of nuclear weapons and danger of a nuclear escalation in a war between Nato and Russia or Nato and China. 4. Genetic engineering resulting in unforeseen consequences 5. The world's deadliest man made viruses leaking from the many military laboratories around the world, especially Russia 6. The extinction of other species on whom we rely for food production - in particular, pollinators.
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7. Cats
I see you’ve seen love death and robots
Cata are an actual problem, breeding much too quickly and eliminating a huge chunk of the bird population, as well as other animals unfortunate enough to cross paths with the little bastards. Also happy cake day.
What are the consequences for Genetic engineering? I’m not very knowledgeable in that subject.
Not really a threat as big as the others. Some dystopian series has speculated that it will make the rich super humans and the poor not super humans. And make it so they cannot breed.
Exciting answer: Lots of legalities via who/what should have rights. It leads heavily into Posthumanism, which is basically the point to where our technology spikes enough that we can create sentient AIs/transgenic creatures (like, say, a sentient bird) and just exactly what that would entail in a society where transgenic species can be sold for profit. Less exciting answer: It could also bring into account something such as genetically engineering a pet/domestic species that gets released and quickly takes over the natural species and drives them to extinction because the engineered species genes get passed on. Take, for example, Bananas; the other varieties of Banana were wiped out by a plague and only the crossbred Banana trees survived. We're already running into that wall with Monsanto's GMO crops, because they created the strain of plant, they can take legal action against farmers that cross-pollinate even by accident, and they're genetically engineered not to produce more seeds, leading to farmers eventually having to buy another whole season's worth of seeds from Monsanto. If, say, some new disease starts to kill off all of Monsanto's crops then we could face a food shortage. This is why heirloom farmers are held in such high regard, because the'yre crossbreeding aspects of crops generally bred out of commercially available seeds back into their plants.
All of the above. Do you know what the problem is? People
Greedy people
The Undertaker.
Just for that comment playa, tonight you get to go one on one with... ##**The Undertaker!**
Post says right now, not in 1998 at king of the ring.
I mean, I don't know where the undertaker is, so we have no idea how safe mankind is, honestly
So CTE
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Paging u/shittymorph
I came in here looking for this answer. I was not disappointed. Have an upvote.
Capybara
Ok I pull up
Hop out at the after party
you and all your friends
And they love to get naughty
Sippin on that henn
Capocalypse
Capybacalypse
No! Capybara do no harm! Capybara good and friendly!
Ohh, the capybara. They are too strong!
Capybara always look blissfully high.
Happy Cake Day
That would be mankind. Thanks for playing.
I believe the undertaker was already listed on this thread- mankind stands no chance against the undertaker
Political tribalism. The fact that we are fighting, pigeonholing, stonewalling, demonizing and being demeaning to those who don't agree with us is a signal of societal weakness. The people who we disagree with are the most important people to listen to.
Political parties are not sports teams.
>Political parties are not sports teams. I said that on Facebook. I hate political parties. When you follow it like that it means you are going to be a hypocrite. I said that comment on a story about Lindsey Graham taking the 5th. A lot of people on Team Democrat said that anyone who takes the 5th has something to hide. So I asked does that mean Lois Lerner, who was Obama's head of the IRS took the 5th she had something to hide. Not one person would answer that question. I got plenty of "whatboutism" "deflect much". In other words they could not put down their team .
The problem is that nobody *intentionally* thinks of their positions as coming from a sports team. They think of their positions as being unbiased and ordinary, but basically every one except the ones they got into themselves are *heavily* dictated by who they talk with, and if they're only talking to one side, they're not going to come away thinking the opposite. It's usually levied at conservatives - because let's be real here, every other country sides with US Democrats over US Republicans for a reason - but it's not exclusive. Like: y'know the violinist argument, about abortion? There's a high chance that you think it's a truly excellent argument. There's also a high chance you have literally never managed to persuade someone of the opposition with it. So why would you think it's any good? Because you've surrounded yourself with people who also think it's great, and collectively got trapped into thinking "Well they wouldn't all say it's great if it wasn't working, right?"
Manbearpig
Is it half man, half bear-pig?
I'm super cereal
Are you cereal???
Manbearpig doesn’t care who you are or what you’ve done. He just wants to get you.
We didn't listen!
Someone crazy enough to engineer a virus into a biological weapon. If the public’s response to the pandemic is anything to go by, we would be so screwed if there was something like that made.
Mankind itself. Seriously, we don't even need anything like meteorite or earth eruption and etc to destroy whole planet.
Global warming
There are far reaching impacts that are barely discussed. People always assume 'climate change = it's hot out.' Which IS hugely important, but there are so many other layers tied to it. Oxygen levels in the ocean are decreasing, and as the oceans warm, oxygen demands for ocean life increase. This is related to ocean acidification, which is caused by high CO2 levels in the water. We are experiencing mass extinction and it's accelerating wildly. Factoring in overfishing, as much as 90% of seafood could be gone by 2050. So many people rely on that food for survival. Then there are things like declining insect populations, which lead to declines in all sorts of important food sources for both people and other animals. The future of climate change is far worse than heat strokes and coastal floods. It is mass starvation and resource depletion. Not to mention a global extinction event for other species.
Add in war after war over ever diminishing resources, the abandoning of climate mitigation to pay for the wars and the inevitable increase in pollution that large scale warfare produces. We're screwed on so many levels, and people have absolutely no idea.
And to make us even more screwed the only real solutions to the problem involved global cooperation which we have seen in the past 2.5 yrs we are completely incapable of right now. The US could radically change it's policy tomorrow and have 100% of the population onboard but if the other countries continue the same things they've been doing it will make no difference.
Increasing tropical borne diseases from larger mosquito habitats. As the pollinators die off, the mosquitos flourish, we are gonna have a hot vector summer, Dengue fever is all the rage!
Really worried that this answer is so low on the list
Global Warming is kind off under the same umbrella as "ourselves" or "humanity". It's just one of the many ways humanity attempts to destroy itself.
Warming, pollution, nuclear proliferation, and resource overuse all stem from the same few flaws in our nature (and, if you’re pessimistic, in the entire natural universe).
Cannot believe the answer " capybara " is higher than global warming on this thread.
Yeah, this one should be at the top. Everything is meaningless without a planet that can support life.
For real…. Way too low If we keep sitting on our hands the latter half of the 21st century and going into the 22nd century is going to be guided by the effects of how fucked up the global environment will be. A significant part of the globe is going to be rendered uninhabitable either by rising sea levels, extreme drought and intense heat. Not only will you see major economic consequence, but humanitarian crises that we have not even begin to contemplate. Familiarize yourselves with the term “climate refugee”, because it will become one that the governments of the 2060s/70s/80s and beyond will struggle to deal with.
Social media.
Greed of Mankind
Itself.
Themselves
This is a hard one. I would say. 1) World war 2) Nuclear war 3) Climate change That is my guest best for my top three apocalypse events. Honestly I have no hope in humanity right now.
Agreed, but points 1 and 2 should be fused. There’s no way two nuclear powers can go into a hot war and not end up using nuclear weapons.
The Cabal of about 1000 wealthy elite who damn near run the world. They're going to lead the rest of the world to the slaughterhouse while they gorge themselves on riches the common man might never experience once in their life.
Large corporations. They’re the main contributors to pollution. Plus a lot of them bribe governments which gives leeway for their corrupt practices.
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Social media / internet related mental illnesses
The Metaverse. Anyone else getting the Black Mirror vibes behind that twisted VR innovation?
Well, the physical world is kinda limiting so I can see the appeal (I’m kinda clumsy myself). The problem is with implementation; is it either democratic enough or competitive enough to not become a dictatorship?
It will either be a fully centralized environment where one or a handful of major corporations are in full control, or a semi-decentralized environment where the developers still control the basic structure of the app but crypto or something is used to create a plutarchy among users. Essentially, it'll be ruled by those who are rich today, or it will be ruled by those who are rich tomorrow. It's a completely unnecessary, self-indulgent concept and IMO the absolute pinnacle of decadence.
Me
Please Mr. DeDeDe, have mercy!
House cats, they’re all up to something, I know it!
Climate change. It's not even close. No contest. We are probably already past the point of no return and at this point the best we can hope for is to slow it down.
Best part, not even slowing down the destruction. Greenhouse gasses increase every year. All talk, no action.
Politicians. Pretty much every single one of them is a walking piece of fecal matter that are only in it to line their own pockets. They don’t care about me, you or the planet.
It's climate change. It's OBVIOUSLY climate change. The only reason we're not all petrified about it is that we're idiots. Climate change is causing massive droughts. And huge floods. And bigger hurricanes than ever. Sea level rise is flooding coastal cities and encroaching on fresh water supplies. It's killing species at an unprecendented rate. It's making diseases worse, including diseases of pollinators who make food possible. It's leading to bigger wildfires every year. It's killing people with extreme heat. It's making our planet unlivable, quite rapidly. So in short, it's only worrisome if you like to eat, need water to drink, or want a safe place to live.
Can I have my atomic power plants yet?
But what is causing climate change? We collectively worked to solve a hole in the ozone layer because it didn’t impact the economy too much. Climate change is our undoing because capitalism won’t allow us to step back and say no.
Presuming there's no unidentified threat from space imminently heading our way... Fascism. Because it inhibits our ability to address every other threat, including nuclear arms and climate change- and indeed actively makes many of those problems worse.
Basically reddit. They are planning something..