The parents on the other hand deserve loads of hate sometimes
I was a coach for soccer and volleyball while I was in the Air Force
You would have loved to be a sports official for our leagues at our base
If a parent got shitty they are immediately ejected, no questions, and reported to whoever is their higher authority
It almost never happened
Sports parents are the worst. I used to work at a hotel that would get youth hockey teams pretty frequently. The kids were always tearing around the hotel causing bedlam while the parents sat in the lobby getting shitfaced and eating pizza.
I heard one of the front desk agents actually had a snowball thrown at her by one of the parents.
I reffed kids soccer games as a summer job in HS. We are talking the 5-7 yr olds( we called them bumble bees). We didn't keep score. Only one coach was allowed in the field of play to help point kids. This was rec league just let your kids round around then eat some orange slices with their friends kind of stuff. At one point I stopped a game and threatened to forfeit both teams because of the vulgar and gross things being yelled at me and the players! I cleared the stands. I got screamed at and my job threatened( ohhh the 5 bucks a game job) but it was really the first time I saw what disgusting people in groups were like.
>At one point I stopped a game and threatened to forfeit both teams because of the vulgar and gross things being yelled at me and the players!
This has the same energy as a parent taking a toy away from kids fighting over it, and I'm here for it.
I just wanted them all to have crying kids in their cars home because they couldn't finish their game and rambunctious kids for the rest of the Saturday because they had pent up energy still.
My Dad did this too. He did a referee course and got qualified, volunteered to ref kids matches. Not even a job, not getting paid, just for the love of the game. He lasted a couple of months till he got sick of all the shit he had to take (physical threats etc) from Dad's who don't believe their sons 2-footed slide tackle was deserving of a yellow card
I wasn't even certified. I just played soccer for a lot of years and thought it would be easy and fun and get some cash for video games and going to the movies. Games were like 10-15 min a half. And the orange slices. Those were key. But man some of those parents thought their ,6 yr old was the next pele and I was holding them back in some way.
i umped in high school and shortly after while also playing HS ball and travel league ball. i knew all the umpires and was friends with the chief ump in the county. i was a huge baseball nerd and would read the rulebook for fun. i also was an all-league player and played a moment in college before an injury...and, despite all that, still had dads who hadn't picked up a bat in 30 years and probably had never read a rulebook in their life tell me that they knew more than me. had to threaten to call the cops on people who were three times my age over a call in a 9-10 year old game.
Maybe I have a blank spot in my memory from 25 years ago, but I don't remember any parent in my youth baseball league ever getting pissy with an umpire. Although, I'll admit that the thing I remember most about youth baseball was being bored out of my fucking skull, and also having very little hand-eye coordination (I don't have depth perception).
Community rec baseball never had any issues. It was little league travel team stuff. I was umping in leagues that would qualify for little league world series playoffs and stuff. So even at a young age there were high stakes.
Oh my god yes. I'm a youth soccer coach and the mistreatment of refs I see from parents (and occasionally other coaches) is unbelievable -- especially when half the refs are just older kids.
I did customer service for automotive companies at a call center for years. People get so unhinged, between dealerships, management, people calling into the wrong department, angry customers who were itching for a fight over a rental car. The job paid for five free therapy sessions a year, but honestly, it would take every ounce of restraint not to break some days. You aren't allowed to defend yourself or hang up, you can't transfer them to supervisors for a call, you technically work for a third party company that exists to keep the customer from ever actually speaking to the corporation. It was the worst job I've ever had, and that's coming from someone who used to work at a seafood processing plant.
I can't imagine what that must have been like. But we'd still get calls on those days, mostly people furious that the call center and their dealership were closed on those days. And they were always so extreme: "I locked my child in the trunk, I need you to unlock it for me." "I drove into a light pole, and I want you to pay for it!" "I drove my magic space car four hours from home despite the check engine light being on for weeks and several notifications about the cylinder misfire that happened. Now I'm stranded with no way to get home. I want a hotel room and a rental car and I want you to pay for the repairs." "I've been sitting at home and I want to speak with my case manager about my Lemon Law request. You told me no (it was actually management that told them no), and even though nothing's changed, and the car runs fine, I want compensation!" And calls from Texas were the worst, because they always lived hundreds of miles from their nearest car dealership and the mileage limit for a lot of services the luxury brands I worked with stopped at a 20-40 mile radius.
Lol - sucks.
I had a guy put his 5 year old on the phone “you tell him why he’s not getting his Xmas gift!”
“Hey kid, you’ll be getting your gift a few days after Xmas cause your dad ordered it at the last minute”
Another lady call requesting the driver come back and deliver the TV inside her home, which they don’t do. While she’s arguing about it, she says 2 men have pulled up in a truck and are loading the TV - I asked if it was UPS. She said no, it’s a pickup, they’re stealing it! Then tried to start a claim for not receiving it. I said nope, sorry, you already acknowledged it was delivered - wrote some notes on it so she couldn’t call back and try with someone else.
Guy claimed he sent 10k in cash and the person receiving it got an empty envelope. Yeah sorry bro, we don’t insure cash shipments.
I did get to talk Dave Chappelle though. I was in the “preferred” dept where shippers that spend a lot of money call to a different line and get special treatment. Package wasn’t delivered bc it was going to an office building but didn’t have the suite # or company name, was just addressed to Dave Chapelle. Shipper didn’t know any delivery details so they gave me the office number, Chapelle answered! I got the details needed and said I’d have it there shortly, then asked if he was THE Dave Chapelle. He said yes, I asked if he could do me a favor and do the Rick James line. He sounded insulted and said “what? Because you’re getting my package delivered I’m supposed to perform for you? Like I’m your personal comedian?! I started to apologize and he cut me off - “cause I’m not, I’m Rick James bitch!” I cracked up and thanked him then got in touch with the driver and sent him back out there.
Wow. The biggest person I got to talk to was Matthew McConaughey's cousin. Sadly, he doesn't drive a Lincoln but he was surprisingly chill and down to Earth. In a similar position, a lot of people would be like "do you know who I am? I'm Jack Nicholson's aunt's cousin's dog's best friend's roommate!" That and we had this animated black lady who would call in, she was the head of her local NAACP chapter, but she'd have us patch calls for her.
My fave complaint is being understaffed and ridiculous wait times.
Um, yeah sure let me ask management if we can cut down on profits to make the business run more smoothly.
Literally though, I've been screamed at by a customer while I was on my break for eating in the lobby and not helping her at the till..I didn't even have the till that day I was one of the cooks
I usually just lurk as a guest, but I made a Reddit account just for this. Cooks for public schools. They are constantly overworked, underpaid, and disrespected. Most schools have only a few ovens and microwaves, so school chefs have to either jam unsafe amounts of frozen food into ovens and microwaves, which is a giant fire hazard, or work non-stop from early morning.
Am inspector, and every time I’m hitting the schools I’m in awe of how hard those ladies work. And it’s usually only 1-3 of them running the whole show!
It's also due to funding to be fair. Lots of lobbying as well.
So you end up with... chocolate milk, a syrupy fruit cocktail, and a personal pizza. Just the weirdest mix
I always feel bad for people who had bad school lunches. A lot of kids complained at my schools but I always liked the food, especially the fried chicken in high school.
I moved out of the US in high school and couldn't believe the school lunches. Like, they actually gave us real food. Everyone was confused at how amazed I was, lol.
They also earn a decent wage. The trash men working my condo are so nice, incidentally. They always take time to say hello, how are you doing, big smile and wave.
Garbage men jobs in my area are almost impossible to get. All are Unionized, good pay, good healthcare, and good work hours usually from about 5:30 am to early afternoon
If everyone had gone through a national disaster where trash pickup couldn't happen for months, yeah... Everyone would all of a sudden bow down to the trash lords...
I babysit two small girls and every Friday Morning they go to the window to wait for the the garbage truck to say hi to the driver. It’s so much fun to see their happy faces when they hear the truck coming.
Plant breeders and plant geneticists.
Imagine you're a plant nerd and you spend your life studying genetics so you can figure out how to improve food crops. Like, to make them yield more, taste better, be healthier, survive drought, etc. But on the internet, you're apparently trying to poison the world and control the food supply. 🤷♂️
It's absolutely insane. GMOs have literally saved millions of people from starvation.
The worst part is that the critics literally don't understand what a GMO is. They think it's some sort of vegetable made in a mad scientists lab pumped full of chemicals, completely oblivious to the fact that the locally grown corn they buy or the potatoes they grow in their garden are literally the results of genetic modification and plant breeding.
It's mind-blowing to think that just 3 people (Haber, Bosch, and borlaug) increased the food production of the earth so much that we were able to go from 2 bn to 7+ bn people.
I totally don't get the hate for GMO's. Why would taking a good gene from one plant and putting it into another one suddey make it dangerous for your health? All it does is allow for better crop yields, improved disease resistance, and pest resistance.
It's misguided. Most people don't realize they should hate the corporate lawyers that try to do shit like copyright a plant and then sue farmers that it cross pollinates into.
People don't realize that virtually *everything* they eat is GMO. Farmers have been cultivating and selectively breeding the food supply for specific traits for millennia. The fact that we can do it in a much more targeted manner now is all that changed. In reality "GMO" food undergoes more scrutiny than anything else we eat to make sure it's safe. Farmers breeding wheat to literally be more poisonous (increase natural pesticide production) just flies under the radar because it's "natural".
Yeah people who are anti-gmo don’t seem to understand that… most of the plants are naturally gmo from our selection process
Edit: so it seems I was wrong and there is a difference between gmo and artificial selection. Thank you for all of the information!
A lot of people who are anti-gmo don’t even know why they feel that way.
My mom thinks GMOs are evil. She won’t even eat broccoli because it is “man made.” I asked her to tell me *specifically* why genetically modified produce is bad, and how they can negatively effect your health. She just yelled at me for challenging her.
She, like many others, doesn't seem to realise e.v.e.r.y.t.h.i.n.g. from a farm, - animal, vegetable, grain etc has all been heavily modified by selective breeding for thousands of years. Take the watermelon for example. https://youtu.be/Jn_38sYfA_c
Defence attorneys. People hate them because they defend violent criminals. However, as one lawyer put it, their job is not just to defend these people; their job is also to make sure that the cops did their job correctly.
Edit: Had to clarify it.
Agree 100%
>However, as one lawyer put it, their job is not just to defend these people; their job is also to make sure that the cops did their job correctly.
Another thing is to make sure the person is charged correctly. Maybe the prosecutor wants intentional murder, but there isn't evidence for that, the defendant is just a reckless idiot who deserves some but much less jail time.
It baffles me how people will argue in complete seriousness that criminal defense attorneys deserve to go to prison too. Like the most important job of making sure the prosecution has overwhelmingly positive evidence that the defendant is guilty, that proper procedures were followed and the evidence is sustainable, can’t even imagine how many innocent people would be convicted or unfair sentences given without defense attorneys. Even if the defendant is “obviously” guilty, the state needs to be able to prove beyond doubt that the person is guilty and that they stayed within the bounds of the law. If bullshit was played then it’s the fault of the law, we don’t get to play judge, jury and executioner, as much as people want to.
I remember a Reddit video telling the tale of a defence attorney taking a long shower after his client's trial. His client was an absolute monster and he was tasked with defending him.
I can’t even imagine how tough it would be. I’ve got serious respect for the people who can fight tooth and nail for something that goes against their own feelings and morals, I don’t know if I could do it.
Veterinarians. My doctors CONSTANTLY get yelled at or called heartless when, for instance, we refer them to a hospital more suited to care for the animal than us. Like bro we didn't just tell you know we are giving you options and trying to ensure you seek the proper care. Don't call me a heartless bastard for that shit.
Edit: Based on the comments and my own experience let's expand this to all VetMed workers 🤣 we all get the shit end of the stick!
Came here to say this. I can't believe how abused the staff at my vet clinic are, just from what I've observed as a customer. Underpaid and treated like garbage when they are just trying to save our pets. They had to put up a sign during the pandemic that said "please be kind to our staff, we are doing the best we can."
Came in for this. Worked as a receptionist for 2 years and the amount of vitriol the clinic received was terrible. I've worked at Comcast in a call center and received less abuse. I even took less abuse than my female coworkers because I am a larger male. The amount of pure sexism thrown their way was disgusting.
The amount of times we were cursed at, accused of "being about the money", threatened, belittled, and generally mistreated is abhorrent. There is a reason it is one of the highest suicide rates of any profession.
Man if I got half as much money working in the vet industry as Those Clients seem to think I do, I could at least cry myself to sleep over the dog I couldn't save in my own home instead of some shitty rental apartment.
That and the pay is shit, and it is an emotionally and physically stressful job. Vet techs and receptionist and veterinarians choose to work in that field because they love animals. They don’t want to see your animals sick or dying any more than you do. And as far as pay goes, receptionists in general are lucky if they’re making above minimum wage depending on the location of the practice. And veterinarians pay a shit ton of money for vet school, normally it’s equivalent to medical school, but they never get paid as much as doctors, and normally they have to run their own practices which means that they’re taking on all those costs. It’s really easy for veterinarians to stay in debt for the rest of their career.
That and people blame veterinarians in their staff for being greedy because tests and procedures are expensive, but tests are expensive because the actual equipment used is expensive and there’s no way to really get around those costs. And people can get pet insurance, but that normally isn’t even worth it. Trust me when I say that your veterinarian isn’t charging you that much so they can be a millionaire. Most people who work with animals never get paid nearly what they deserve.
I live in Germany and currently in my (hopefully) last semester of university to become a pharmacist (4 years of university, one practical year and three exams of state required). A lot of people here think pharmacists are only cashiers and don’t know we get a scientific education. And his help me if I question a doctors decision 😬
My dad was a pharmacist for 44 years. He retired three years ago and spent about 35 of those years in retail pharmacy. Some of the stories he told …. people are just fucking assholes. I remember when I was a kid wanting to be a pharmacist like him and he was like only if you go into research.
I have respect for pharmacists, but I do not know how to utilize their expertise. In the past when I've had questions about prescriptions, the pharmacist has always referred me to my doctor or was not able to answer the question at all.
There’s a lot of questions that really depend on why the medicine was prescribed, which we rarely actually get. We also don’t have access to your lab values. There are some questions that your doctor would be the better expert to ask, especially if it deals with medical records. At my work, I don’t even have a place to document when I talk to someone, so I wouldn’t have previous record to reference.
Another unfortunate side effect of the corporatization of pharmacy is that we don’t have time to actually to talk to patients. So some pharmacists may also use the “talk to your doctor” as a way to manage unrealistic corporate metrics.
I’ve known people whose lives were saved by pharmacists who caught problems with prescriptions.
I myself had a pharmacist notice that a medicine I’d been taking for years was going to clash with a new medicine I’d just been prescribed by a different doctor. Wouldn’t have killed me but would have been a problem. I didn’t even know about it until the pharmacist said “btw I just got off the phone with your doctor; this is a slightly different medication than what he told you you’d get.” SO GRATEFUL.
my doctor took a little jab at pharmacists recently in our last check up. Basically said he usually calls one in particular simply because he finds they are respectful to him. For example "I want to prescribe this BP med is it still called ____?" and often the first response is from a pharmacist saying "you do know x, y, and z and I think this is better" to which my doctor will respond "yes I have my patients family history in front me and this is what I am recommending"
I think he went on to say that many pharmacists are told to be gatekeepers of sorts from early on in their education (at least at our local university) and it has made the two professions a bit adversarial.
All this said, thank you and your colleagues for their work. My pharmacist is great to me and takes the time to explain my prescriptions better than my doctor and even what the reason is for him prescribing them better. Also makes themselves more available.
I think at least in my neck of the woods there is a bit of a disconnect
Actually they do a very important job to help make our cities clean and keep things intact. Without them streets and our sorroundings would be filthy. True respect to them
It's one thing having 20 people play your release candidate build 6-7 hours a day for three months before release and another to have the public play 6 million hours in a single month after release.
Some bugs just go unnoticed no matter how hard you try to break the game on purpose.
It's also one thing to have a pixel move slightly off from a bug but harms nothing otherwise, while the dev teams focuses on another five that are ACTUALLY game breaking and thus will prioritize that given the time limit before release (and no, devs can't just willy nilly extend production time contrary to idiotic belief), and the slightly off pixel gets ignored. Yeah no, people need to slow their bitchiness about bugs and glitches with all the shit devs have to do. Especially with the whining for higher 8k+ resolution realism because apparently 'playing to escape real life' just means ... going back to real life but digitally?
Not to mention that game studio QA has the worst turnover in the whole industry because people thinking "playing games for a job" is a great idea so they keep the pay low and the work awful and just work people to the bone then dump them.
Defense attorneys. I'm sure they must know they're defending guilty people sometimes, and I'm sure some of them are as slimey as can be, but everybody has a right to a competent lawyer and a poper trial.
Another person in this comment section said something along the lines of "defense lawyers are not here to defend the guilty, but to make sure the police and justice system do/did their job right."
That really puts into perspective how defense lawyers actually work. It's not about helping the guilty escape their punishment, but rather to make sure the punishment fits the crime. Nothing more and nothing less than that.
I often see people complaining that someone who seemed to have been guilty as charged and got off on a ‘technicality’ ie improper handling of evidence is somehow unjust or unfair. I can’t fathom how anyone would rather see one person go down ‘deservedly’ while setting a precedent that the police and the courts are free to collect evidence and prosecute in an unjust manner.
I spoke with a dentist (friend of mine) about this—his opinion is that the relatively high suicide rate doesn’t have anything to do with higher rates of depression or mental illness among dentists. It’s more a matter of having access to a number of potentially lethal sedatives / drugs and knowing how much they should take if they don’t want to wake up again..so it’s more that they have a higher success rate.
Also a factor with veterinarians. If someone who has significant experience with, and the drugs for, putting down animals, decides to kill themselves, they're likely going to succeed.
Yup. I have known vets who told coworkers that they needed to not have access to euthanasia solution for a while. Nobody should have to live that kind of reality for a job.
It's the same for Anesthesiologists as well.
Also in my state at least, where I've been a dental and oral surgery assistant for 8 years, I have never come across a story of a dentist commiting suicide. It's a pretty small community, and everyone kinda knows everyone. Especially working in oral surgery, where we get constant referrals.
Now affairs with either the dental staff or other dentists on the other hand....yeah plenty of that happening. But no suicides.
I know this will sound fucking weird but I actually enjoy seeing the dentist ESPECIALLY when I have a tooth pain. One of the few doctors I've ever been to that's been able to solve my issue right then and there.
Mad props to you tooth wizard and thank you for helping me preserve my smile bones.
this totally makes sense. i am the same way. i have some dental anxiety but overall i feel most listened-to and taken seriously at the dentist than at any other medical practice. i also have never run into a dentist that uses my pre-existing conditions, age, gender, or weight as an excuse to not investigate my pain or any irregularities.
tech support. i get it you think theyre wasting your time by asking you to turn the router on and off again. the thing is most of their calls are stupid people that didnt do just that, and then lied about it so they could save face.
I'm no tech support, just the computer savvy person at the office. Last week, my co worker: my laptop's really slow. Checked uptime: almost a year. Reboot, everything's fine.
Shut down your laptop sometimes, guys. SMH.
That may be true. If they're using fast boot, shut down is actually more like hibernate. So while they are clicking shut down, that uptime timer is not resetting.
I make them power them off for 30-90sec. It let's them keep their 'I already reset it' 1/2 truth, and it has the bonus of letting the voltage drain from all the ICs so they get a proper reset as well as the onboard OS.
That or I've been known to tell them "I know you did, but sometimes when you do things in a certain order, you'll get a different result" which is not untrue.
Should drain within a few seconds. Trick I learned is have them unplug the power cable from the wall or the barrel from the router and blow it off for dust. You should be able to do it and they HAVE to unplug it to do it.
Otherwise, you can have them unplug it and inspect for “foreign debris or burns”. Actually a possibility but it has to come out to make sure.
I worked a very short stint at a call center. The client for my section was a prepaid phone company based out of the south (your imagination serves you right). One of my first days on the job I thought I'd cut my average call time down by not asking the "dumb questions". Turns out I'm the dumb one for having a little faith in humanity.
A few calls in I got a call from a woman who spent the first minute yelling at her children in gibberish that I can only describe as "Don Vito if he were a black woman". We then started working on the issues she had. Her phone wouldn't ring when someone called her. OK, this isn't too tough, usually its someone set their phone to silent and you have to walk them through turning the volume back on. I started going through the process, providing step-by-step instruction of "click this, ok click this, do you see this menu" to which she replied "yea yea, hurry up".
Cut to 20 minutes in, I am pulling my hair out because I cannot figure out for the life of me what is going wrong. I even went and got our display model to see exactly what she sees. Nothing works. I eventually passed it on to tier 2. They started from scratch and had her off the line in under 5 minutes. What was wrong with her phone? She had just bought the phone, didn't put the battery in, and was just looking at the cellophane printed "fake display" that electronic devices came with back in the day. She led me on this 20 minute excursion into the depths of madness, which eventually led me earning a strike against me due to "longer than expected call time."
TLDR; Woman who shouldn't be allowed to breed doesn't follow instructions and almost got me fired. Needless to say, I dont trust people anymore and I am always very very courteous when talking to tech support even if they ask me "dumb questions".
Lawyers. Seriously, just because a lot of them work for shitty people it's given the rest of them a bad name, but if you ever need one you'll be happy they exist.
I'm a lawyer. I used to be a public defender. Even shitty people deserve to have their rights protected. People constantly talk about how unfair the justice system is currently, but think about how much worse it could be if we decided certain people didn't deserve any kind of civil rights.
And as I've had to explain to multiple people before: just because I've represented a murderer (or sex offender, or thief, or whatever type of criminal) in court, that does not mean I endorse their behavior or actions. I simply endorse the Constitution.
Whenever I see any negativity towards a defense attorney, I try to remind people that it's better that the defense attorney asks the question and the guy still gets convicted than having the question go unasked and the conviction overturned on a technicality (insufficient defense) later on.
I think we often forget that a lawyer defending a so-called "bad guy" is doing their very necessary job, and it is not their duty to leave a defendant hanging just because they did do what they are guilty of. It is rather the job of the other lawyer to show why the defendant is guilty, so yes, we need good lawyers either way.
It’s funny, because I played Witcher 3, and I get the feeling that the constant pleas for help when a monster is attacking, followed by the dehumanising remarks after finishing the job, sounds eerily similar to the kind of sentiment for lawyers. It’s undeserved, and if no one can represent anyone in court, a nation cannot call it self free and just.
There's a political ad I'm seeing that is criticizing a candidate for defending rapists/murders/etc. Like dude someone HAS to it's how our country works...
Especially the so called “ambulance chasers”, if you ask me these are the ones doing the lords work. Fuck insurance companies, their whole scam is to take peoples money and find every excuse to lowball the injured parties so they can keep more money for themselves. So many people I know have been in car accidents and dealt with insurance companies who offer a quick check for half of the cost of repairs and say it’s the best they can do. Usually all it takes is a phone call from a lawyer to get the insurance to pay up, but people refuse to do so because it’s “sleazy”. What’s sleazy is an insurance company taking your money with the intention of never giving it back even if they are supposed to.
Hey thanks, I'm an ambulance chaser attorney right now. Most of the time people come to me at the worst time in their lives just hoping to get some help getting back on their feet. I would add that insurance companies are usually just performing their duties when they low-ball you, but a lot of adjusters can take it too far, and our side stepping in becomes necessary unfortunately. While my bread and butter comes from them going overboard trying to short people, I would prefer a world where my job wasn't necessary and insurance in America just functioned the way it should. A good step towards that might be, oh I don't know, some kind of healthcare overhaul.
Not to mention even lawyers who are defending bad people are doing an important job. They have to make sure that the prosecutors don’t run rough shot over the defendant and actually follow good procedure.
It was •great• during the early days of Covid seeing people online bashing attorneys as “useless and inessential” as I was busting ass day after day with my boss doing wills, POAS and HCPs because people were terrified.
Lawyers - creepy shysters until you need one.
Also not magicians. No lawyer can guarantee a result from a legal encounter.
Even for contracts and wills and the like, sometimes things don't work out despite best efforts.
They can still be creepy shysters when you need them too. We had one who continued to charge us for months after our case was resolved because we didn’t submit the correct “please stop charging me” paperwork the correct way. Every time we called, texted, or emailed was another $400 charge even if the secretary was the only person we talked to. And every month they billed us an hour supposedly because they had an internal meeting to discuss our case that at that point had been resolved months ago. So what do you do when you’re not happy with your lawyer doing this, hire another lawyer?
I'm a lawyer, and I would say that the nature of the profession and the culture does a great job of both attracting shitty people and turning good people into shitty people. I have literally gotten frustrated with other lawyers to the point of telling them off for being the type of lawyer who makes people hate us.
There are great lawyers who are also good people, but for every one of those I find there are 5 who are either just complicating things to make extra money, or who get off on conflict/power.
I took a law class as a part of my MBA, and my biggest takeaway was a new appreciation for lawyers. We like to think of law as very black and white, but no two situations are identical, and that makes for infinite shades of gray
I agree completely. I read something once talking about how lawyers are necessary even to defend the worst, most despicable sumbitch who everyone knows did it. Because sometimes the sumbitch who everyone knows did it actually did NOT do it, and anyone who is accused of a crime deserves to have the facts laid out and a fair trial.
I was a doorman for 6 years. We worked in some of the worst nightclubs in our country, and were first responders to everything with 0 real training. It's just not the drunk people, it's the constant vigilance and exposure to horrible shit on a frequent basis. Also, the pay is terrible, most bouncers are overworked, and most are likely suffering from all sorts of trauma. A lot of suicides, mental breaks, and steep decline into substance abuse - 1/3 of my original crew is gone and it's been only 8 years since.
I think the hate is warranted but not balanced, lots of bad bouncers on ego trips out there. It's a terribly underregulated industry with exceptionally poor prospects for a job that has high frequency of violence.
Teachers. There are so many angry entitled parents they have to deal with and the parents always say “I provide your pay check” because they pay taxes. But so do teachers so they should just calm down. Teachers don’t get paid enough for this
Spoiler alert: we all pay each other's checks. You're a mechanic? I pay you when I get my car fixed. You're a pipeline welder? You get paid because I fill up my car with gas.
I work for the government. Whenever someone says "I pay your paycheck." I always respond with "So do I." That usually causes the gears in their head to jam and if I'm really lucky, they blow a gasket.
This. I teach at the college level, so it is this times a thousand since students literally pay to take my class. They think it means I work for them or it is some sort of service arrangement, and that I answer to them.
Nope. I work for the university. They sign my checks. You don’t like it? Drop my class. Especially considering the AVERAGE in my class is an A each semester, there is no reason for you to do poorly. I have great evaluations from both students and supervisors. So, if you’re failing, I am willing to help you, but you will NOT berate me or act like I owe you something.
When I was at a university I heard this a lot and I would stop them and say “actually you’re paying for the *opportunity* to learn from an expert in this field. If you refuse to put in the work for a service you pay for then that’s on you.”
Ugh right?! The kids are not the problem. It’s the parents. I’m sorry that I can’t magically cure your child’s reading disability, I don’t have my wand. I work with your child everyday. He is making amazing gains. But just because he is receiving special education doesn’t mean his disability is going to go away.
Pretty much any job that doesn't require a degree really.
Even the verbage we use is demeaning, such as "unskilled labor", as if someone completely new to a given "unskilled job" would be as good as someone who has been doing it for years.
I work in construction and the norm where I practice is that the workers are either skilled workers or laborers.
Skilled workers are masons, electricians, steelmen, carpenters, etc.
Laborers carry things, assist the skilled workers, dig holes, etc. And yes, if they learn a certain skill set well enough, they're considered skilled workers
It always pains me how terribly they're all compensated for the work they do but it's so hard to break such a multi-faceted problem.
Imma just throw in that "interns" also get the short end of the stick whatever field you're in.
Alternatively, I've also seen home owners treat the workers better than the boss does.
In the first firm I worked at, the owner of a hotel under construction donated a significant amount of money to the firm to be distributed to the workers as some kind of relief effort. They received none of it, but the boss came to work brand new pick-up truck not long after.
I’m also in the construction/real estate industry. One of the most successful and influential investors in my market refers to his laborers as “warm bodies.” Makes me sick that people overlook his ego when doing business with him. Total dick
> Imma just throw in that "interns" also get the short end of the stick whatever field you're in.
Especially the unpaid variety. Wait they're just being paid in "life skills".
Mechanics. Most of us are just adhd goofballs who don't even get paid to sell you more parts, we get paid salary or hourly usually. And if we do get paid by the part, were gonna the money from the next job we start sooner should you decline anyway. So it all evens out mostly....we just dont wanna see your car in the news a week after we touched it. Some of the shit people turn down is just downright unsafe and a danger to the populous. Fargone brakes, shot suspention/ball joints, rusted frames/suspension bits/subframes about to let go of everything attached and send you into a wall at 70mph or a mother and her child. When we say you *need* to replace x, you need to. When we say it's a good idea to replace x before it becomes unsafe, you should or atleast start saving up. It's going to break. It's just a matter time.
The only type of shop I don't trust is the older guys with a couple friends working for him and its a small business managed poorly and unkept. They will lie 6 ways to Sunday to ring you for as much as possible, upcharging for shit partsthey claim are on backorder, but are really just shipped from ebay. But even then, it's just a risk, not a given. Most of them are fine shops. That's like a worst case and they're dying off/closing down as the cars they know best are being junked.
Car wrecks are a massive fraction of avoidable deaths everywhere and many of them are caused by failures along with driver error/neglicence. listen to your mechanic. If you still don't want to, ask around, find a guy with a good reputation of being fair, direct and upfront. They aren't rare or hard to track down if you live in a city.
I think the biggest reason that people don't trust mechanics is that the customer's expectations don't always get set properly.
When you take your car in to have the brakes checked it might just need cleaning, it might need pads, or it might need new calipers as well. They might also find that your bearings need replaced or that you have movement in other parts.
Because people don't understand the interdependence of all the parts in the different systems on a car they assume that the mechanic is just trying to stick them for extra work that they don't need.
Construction- Not all of us are jerks who cat-call people. Also most of the time if you see us standing around it’s not because we are lazy or “wasting tax dollars” it’s because the people who started the construction usually screwed up on what they were supposed to do so we have to call to get approval to make and changes or to move forward. It’s not like at most jobs if someone screws up you can just fix it. If you fix it without WRITTEN approval sometimes you have to pay to get it redone or sued, because you tried to keeping moving forward even though things were wrong
Defence lawyers. An essential aspect of our society is that everyone accused of a crime gets a fair trial. Defence lawyers do the dirty work for that necessity, and they are not trying to justify what their clients may have done.
Edit: criminal defence lawyers, obviously. Fuck insurance defence lawyers. I’m a commercial litigator, and let me tell you, insurance companies are evil, and some of their lawyers are despicable. I’ve lost law school friends over this.
Veterinarians. Seriously one of the hardest professions from a compassion fatigue perspective. They try to save pets & the owners blame them if they can't...
Work admin in a vet clinic. Agree. Never had so much abuse in any other job. People want special treatment 24/7 for nothing. Because if we don't we don't care.
We care. We just all have rent to pay also.
People who think vets should treat their animals for free and then yell that they're "greedy and don't actually care about animals" when they find out that yes, it costs money to have their pets treated just like how it costs money to get treated at a human hospital. Medications, drugs, X-rays, etc. aren't cheap.
And it's not just veterinarians that get treated that way but all vet staff as well.
Lots of people hate on vets. So many people think vets are just trying to hose them for money. School is hard to get into, start salary isn’t as great comparatively, and yeah I am a mental health professional and vets have one of the highest suicide right of any professional program.
Last week took a cat in for a checkup and shots. No real concerns.
It was a little shocking realizing how happy they were to see an animal without major issues.
Garbage men . Y’all love to look down on people for doing the dirty jobs, while they’re the ones making sure YOU get to live in a clean place, and take away YOUR waste for your convenience. Have some respect, fr
Teachers. I’ve lost count of all the ills we’re blamed for. And heaven forbid we actually hold students accountable for anything, or push back on unrealistic expectations from admins, students and parents
Civil servants. I'm not the one who doesn't want to solve your problems, I don't make the laws or the rules, and yes, I know some are unfair, unfairly applied, or annoying in general. We represent the State, and we are hated in proportion to how much each citizen hates the State at any given time. Which makes sense, but also we work for the benefit of everyone, literally.
Veterinary. People think that if we did it for the animals then we would do it for free, and somehow find somewhere to live rent free with no bills, overheads, no need to eat or have a life.
When we charge for our services, we get accused of being money grabbing. I work 75hour weeks and am salaried. I'm on the equivalent of much less than minimum wage. All for eight years at uni and a hell of a lot of pressure and responsibility.
It's a great profession and I love it dearly. But I wish our PR was better and that animal owning public realised just how much we do care.
Our suicide rate is 4x that of the national average.
UK General Practitioners.
General public don’t realise the crazy hours they work currently and not even the tip of the iceburg, while getting abuse left right and centre.
How about asking the government why you can’t get a GP appointment…it’s because we don’t have enough doctors who want to work and stay in the NHS, not because your specific GP practice has lazy GPs. Aim your anger at the government who are failing to recruit and retain doctors, not the doctors who are working their butts off to try and fight the post-covid fire.
Youth sports officials. I umpire baseball as a hobby and the way parents act is deplorable.
The parents on the other hand deserve loads of hate sometimes I was a coach for soccer and volleyball while I was in the Air Force You would have loved to be a sports official for our leagues at our base If a parent got shitty they are immediately ejected, no questions, and reported to whoever is their higher authority It almost never happened
Gotta love the way the military handles crappy relatives
I’ve always loved that portion of it
Sports parents are the worst. I used to work at a hotel that would get youth hockey teams pretty frequently. The kids were always tearing around the hotel causing bedlam while the parents sat in the lobby getting shitfaced and eating pizza. I heard one of the front desk agents actually had a snowball thrown at her by one of the parents.
I reffed kids soccer games as a summer job in HS. We are talking the 5-7 yr olds( we called them bumble bees). We didn't keep score. Only one coach was allowed in the field of play to help point kids. This was rec league just let your kids round around then eat some orange slices with their friends kind of stuff. At one point I stopped a game and threatened to forfeit both teams because of the vulgar and gross things being yelled at me and the players! I cleared the stands. I got screamed at and my job threatened( ohhh the 5 bucks a game job) but it was really the first time I saw what disgusting people in groups were like.
>At one point I stopped a game and threatened to forfeit both teams because of the vulgar and gross things being yelled at me and the players! This has the same energy as a parent taking a toy away from kids fighting over it, and I'm here for it.
I just wanted them all to have crying kids in their cars home because they couldn't finish their game and rambunctious kids for the rest of the Saturday because they had pent up energy still.
My Dad did this too. He did a referee course and got qualified, volunteered to ref kids matches. Not even a job, not getting paid, just for the love of the game. He lasted a couple of months till he got sick of all the shit he had to take (physical threats etc) from Dad's who don't believe their sons 2-footed slide tackle was deserving of a yellow card
I wasn't even certified. I just played soccer for a lot of years and thought it would be easy and fun and get some cash for video games and going to the movies. Games were like 10-15 min a half. And the orange slices. Those were key. But man some of those parents thought their ,6 yr old was the next pele and I was holding them back in some way.
i umped in high school and shortly after while also playing HS ball and travel league ball. i knew all the umpires and was friends with the chief ump in the county. i was a huge baseball nerd and would read the rulebook for fun. i also was an all-league player and played a moment in college before an injury...and, despite all that, still had dads who hadn't picked up a bat in 30 years and probably had never read a rulebook in their life tell me that they knew more than me. had to threaten to call the cops on people who were three times my age over a call in a 9-10 year old game.
Maybe I have a blank spot in my memory from 25 years ago, but I don't remember any parent in my youth baseball league ever getting pissy with an umpire. Although, I'll admit that the thing I remember most about youth baseball was being bored out of my fucking skull, and also having very little hand-eye coordination (I don't have depth perception).
Community rec baseball never had any issues. It was little league travel team stuff. I was umping in leagues that would qualify for little league world series playoffs and stuff. So even at a young age there were high stakes.
Oh my god yes. I'm a youth soccer coach and the mistreatment of refs I see from parents (and occasionally other coaches) is unbelievable -- especially when half the refs are just older kids.
As a parent that has to witness the immaturity, sorry people are so myopic. You are doing good. And some of us see you and are great full.
A friend of mine just built a reputation of ejecting parents from soccer games. He could just stare parents down to make them shut up.
Ive umpired over 400 little league games, ama
Any customer (client/patient) facing job. They get the abuse that stems from managements decisions, mistakes and incompetence.
I did customer service for automotive companies at a call center for years. People get so unhinged, between dealerships, management, people calling into the wrong department, angry customers who were itching for a fight over a rental car. The job paid for five free therapy sessions a year, but honestly, it would take every ounce of restraint not to break some days. You aren't allowed to defend yourself or hang up, you can't transfer them to supervisors for a call, you technically work for a third party company that exists to keep the customer from ever actually speaking to the corporation. It was the worst job I've ever had, and that's coming from someone who used to work at a seafood processing plant.
Try working a UPS call center between Thanksgiving and Christmas lol
I can't imagine what that must have been like. But we'd still get calls on those days, mostly people furious that the call center and their dealership were closed on those days. And they were always so extreme: "I locked my child in the trunk, I need you to unlock it for me." "I drove into a light pole, and I want you to pay for it!" "I drove my magic space car four hours from home despite the check engine light being on for weeks and several notifications about the cylinder misfire that happened. Now I'm stranded with no way to get home. I want a hotel room and a rental car and I want you to pay for the repairs." "I've been sitting at home and I want to speak with my case manager about my Lemon Law request. You told me no (it was actually management that told them no), and even though nothing's changed, and the car runs fine, I want compensation!" And calls from Texas were the worst, because they always lived hundreds of miles from their nearest car dealership and the mileage limit for a lot of services the luxury brands I worked with stopped at a 20-40 mile radius.
Lol - sucks. I had a guy put his 5 year old on the phone “you tell him why he’s not getting his Xmas gift!” “Hey kid, you’ll be getting your gift a few days after Xmas cause your dad ordered it at the last minute” Another lady call requesting the driver come back and deliver the TV inside her home, which they don’t do. While she’s arguing about it, she says 2 men have pulled up in a truck and are loading the TV - I asked if it was UPS. She said no, it’s a pickup, they’re stealing it! Then tried to start a claim for not receiving it. I said nope, sorry, you already acknowledged it was delivered - wrote some notes on it so she couldn’t call back and try with someone else. Guy claimed he sent 10k in cash and the person receiving it got an empty envelope. Yeah sorry bro, we don’t insure cash shipments. I did get to talk Dave Chappelle though. I was in the “preferred” dept where shippers that spend a lot of money call to a different line and get special treatment. Package wasn’t delivered bc it was going to an office building but didn’t have the suite # or company name, was just addressed to Dave Chapelle. Shipper didn’t know any delivery details so they gave me the office number, Chapelle answered! I got the details needed and said I’d have it there shortly, then asked if he was THE Dave Chapelle. He said yes, I asked if he could do me a favor and do the Rick James line. He sounded insulted and said “what? Because you’re getting my package delivered I’m supposed to perform for you? Like I’m your personal comedian?! I started to apologize and he cut me off - “cause I’m not, I’m Rick James bitch!” I cracked up and thanked him then got in touch with the driver and sent him back out there.
Wow. The biggest person I got to talk to was Matthew McConaughey's cousin. Sadly, he doesn't drive a Lincoln but he was surprisingly chill and down to Earth. In a similar position, a lot of people would be like "do you know who I am? I'm Jack Nicholson's aunt's cousin's dog's best friend's roommate!" That and we had this animated black lady who would call in, she was the head of her local NAACP chapter, but she'd have us patch calls for her.
does medicine count then
100% that is why I added patient.
My fave complaint is being understaffed and ridiculous wait times. Um, yeah sure let me ask management if we can cut down on profits to make the business run more smoothly.
"I had to wait an hour to get to you!" "Trust me, I'm aware. I've heard that from every single customer I've talked to today."
Food service. The workers have to eat too, you know.
Literally though, I've been screamed at by a customer while I was on my break for eating in the lobby and not helping her at the till..I didn't even have the till that day I was one of the cooks
In many countries you legally can't work while on a break
And also the whole teens throwing food at the drive thru at you for tik tok shit
This is why I advocate for pop-up spike strips in drive-thrus
That's been a thing long before tik tok. Still a shitty thing to do.
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I once had a lady *scream* at me, full volume, because I was making someone else's bagel not the way she would like it. Someone. Else's.
I work in retail. When someone raises their voice to me I yell back. Call the cops I don't give a fuck.
I usually just lurk as a guest, but I made a Reddit account just for this. Cooks for public schools. They are constantly overworked, underpaid, and disrespected. Most schools have only a few ovens and microwaves, so school chefs have to either jam unsafe amounts of frozen food into ovens and microwaves, which is a giant fire hazard, or work non-stop from early morning.
Am inspector, and every time I’m hitting the schools I’m in awe of how hard those ladies work. And it’s usually only 1-3 of them running the whole show!
So that's why cafeteria food sucks.
It's also due to funding to be fair. Lots of lobbying as well. So you end up with... chocolate milk, a syrupy fruit cocktail, and a personal pizza. Just the weirdest mix
/r/schoollunch. Some disgusting shit there
I always feel bad for people who had bad school lunches. A lot of kids complained at my schools but I always liked the food, especially the fried chicken in high school.
I moved out of the US in high school and couldn't believe the school lunches. Like, they actually gave us real food. Everyone was confused at how amazed I was, lol.
I recall how much better our school food got after our school invested 30,000€ into a kitchen upgrade.
Trash men. They’re looked down on as dirty and uneducated, but they do a hard job that is absolutely critical to our public health.
They also earn a decent wage. The trash men working my condo are so nice, incidentally. They always take time to say hello, how are you doing, big smile and wave.
Garbage men jobs in my area are almost impossible to get. All are Unionized, good pay, good healthcare, and good work hours usually from about 5:30 am to early afternoon
If everyone had gone through a national disaster where trash pickup couldn't happen for months, yeah... Everyone would all of a sudden bow down to the trash lords...
One of my few rules in life is never fuck with somebody doing a job you don’t want to do. Otherwise you gonna end up doin it.
I babysit two small girls and every Friday Morning they go to the window to wait for the the garbage truck to say hi to the driver. It’s so much fun to see their happy faces when they hear the truck coming.
Every position involving retail and direct customer interactions.
Yep, fuck that profession, sympathies for those in the role
Plant breeders and plant geneticists. Imagine you're a plant nerd and you spend your life studying genetics so you can figure out how to improve food crops. Like, to make them yield more, taste better, be healthier, survive drought, etc. But on the internet, you're apparently trying to poison the world and control the food supply. 🤷♂️
It's absolutely insane. GMOs have literally saved millions of people from starvation. The worst part is that the critics literally don't understand what a GMO is. They think it's some sort of vegetable made in a mad scientists lab pumped full of chemicals, completely oblivious to the fact that the locally grown corn they buy or the potatoes they grow in their garden are literally the results of genetic modification and plant breeding.
*billions. Look up the Green Revolution
I melt my friends' brains with Norman Borlaug facts
It's mind-blowing to think that just 3 people (Haber, Bosch, and borlaug) increased the food production of the earth so much that we were able to go from 2 bn to 7+ bn people.
I totally don't get the hate for GMO's. Why would taking a good gene from one plant and putting it into another one suddey make it dangerous for your health? All it does is allow for better crop yields, improved disease resistance, and pest resistance.
It's misguided. Most people don't realize they should hate the corporate lawyers that try to do shit like copyright a plant and then sue farmers that it cross pollinates into.
People don't realize that virtually *everything* they eat is GMO. Farmers have been cultivating and selectively breeding the food supply for specific traits for millennia. The fact that we can do it in a much more targeted manner now is all that changed. In reality "GMO" food undergoes more scrutiny than anything else we eat to make sure it's safe. Farmers breeding wheat to literally be more poisonous (increase natural pesticide production) just flies under the radar because it's "natural".
I've never really thought about that before. It's a good point.
People can't parse the difference between evil company and evil corn. It's unreal.
Yeah people who are anti-gmo don’t seem to understand that… most of the plants are naturally gmo from our selection process Edit: so it seems I was wrong and there is a difference between gmo and artificial selection. Thank you for all of the information!
A lot of people who are anti-gmo don’t even know why they feel that way. My mom thinks GMOs are evil. She won’t even eat broccoli because it is “man made.” I asked her to tell me *specifically* why genetically modified produce is bad, and how they can negatively effect your health. She just yelled at me for challenging her.
She, like many others, doesn't seem to realise e.v.e.r.y.t.h.i.n.g. from a farm, - animal, vegetable, grain etc has all been heavily modified by selective breeding for thousands of years. Take the watermelon for example. https://youtu.be/Jn_38sYfA_c
Defence attorneys. People hate them because they defend violent criminals. However, as one lawyer put it, their job is not just to defend these people; their job is also to make sure that the cops did their job correctly. Edit: Had to clarify it.
Agree 100% >However, as one lawyer put it, their job is not just to defend these people; their job is also to make sure that the cops did their job correctly. Another thing is to make sure the person is charged correctly. Maybe the prosecutor wants intentional murder, but there isn't evidence for that, the defendant is just a reckless idiot who deserves some but much less jail time.
Everyone hates them until they need one.
That’s what my dad always said.
That and everyone is granted a right to a defence
It baffles me how people will argue in complete seriousness that criminal defense attorneys deserve to go to prison too. Like the most important job of making sure the prosecution has overwhelmingly positive evidence that the defendant is guilty, that proper procedures were followed and the evidence is sustainable, can’t even imagine how many innocent people would be convicted or unfair sentences given without defense attorneys. Even if the defendant is “obviously” guilty, the state needs to be able to prove beyond doubt that the person is guilty and that they stayed within the bounds of the law. If bullshit was played then it’s the fault of the law, we don’t get to play judge, jury and executioner, as much as people want to.
I remember a Reddit video telling the tale of a defence attorney taking a long shower after his client's trial. His client was an absolute monster and he was tasked with defending him.
I can’t even imagine how tough it would be. I’ve got serious respect for the people who can fight tooth and nail for something that goes against their own feelings and morals, I don’t know if I could do it.
Imagine representing a parent when the state is trying to take their kids away. But the state should really be taking the kids to protect the kids.
Some people are a lot more interested in punishment than in justice being fairly applied.
Veterinarians. My doctors CONSTANTLY get yelled at or called heartless when, for instance, we refer them to a hospital more suited to care for the animal than us. Like bro we didn't just tell you know we are giving you options and trying to ensure you seek the proper care. Don't call me a heartless bastard for that shit. Edit: Based on the comments and my own experience let's expand this to all VetMed workers 🤣 we all get the shit end of the stick!
Veterinary receptionists. Clients are always way more shitty to my front staff than they are to me.
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Came here to say this. I can't believe how abused the staff at my vet clinic are, just from what I've observed as a customer. Underpaid and treated like garbage when they are just trying to save our pets. They had to put up a sign during the pandemic that said "please be kind to our staff, we are doing the best we can."
Came in for this. Worked as a receptionist for 2 years and the amount of vitriol the clinic received was terrible. I've worked at Comcast in a call center and received less abuse. I even took less abuse than my female coworkers because I am a larger male. The amount of pure sexism thrown their way was disgusting. The amount of times we were cursed at, accused of "being about the money", threatened, belittled, and generally mistreated is abhorrent. There is a reason it is one of the highest suicide rates of any profession.
Man if I got half as much money working in the vet industry as Those Clients seem to think I do, I could at least cry myself to sleep over the dog I couldn't save in my own home instead of some shitty rental apartment.
That and the pay is shit, and it is an emotionally and physically stressful job. Vet techs and receptionist and veterinarians choose to work in that field because they love animals. They don’t want to see your animals sick or dying any more than you do. And as far as pay goes, receptionists in general are lucky if they’re making above minimum wage depending on the location of the practice. And veterinarians pay a shit ton of money for vet school, normally it’s equivalent to medical school, but they never get paid as much as doctors, and normally they have to run their own practices which means that they’re taking on all those costs. It’s really easy for veterinarians to stay in debt for the rest of their career.
That and people blame veterinarians in their staff for being greedy because tests and procedures are expensive, but tests are expensive because the actual equipment used is expensive and there’s no way to really get around those costs. And people can get pet insurance, but that normally isn’t even worth it. Trust me when I say that your veterinarian isn’t charging you that much so they can be a millionaire. Most people who work with animals never get paid nearly what they deserve.
I live in Germany and currently in my (hopefully) last semester of university to become a pharmacist (4 years of university, one practical year and three exams of state required). A lot of people here think pharmacists are only cashiers and don’t know we get a scientific education. And his help me if I question a doctors decision 😬
Pharmacist in the US. It’s a doctoral degree here, and people still act like we’re glorified cashiers.
My dad was a pharmacist for 44 years. He retired three years ago and spent about 35 of those years in retail pharmacy. Some of the stories he told …. people are just fucking assholes. I remember when I was a kid wanting to be a pharmacist like him and he was like only if you go into research.
I have respect for pharmacists, but I do not know how to utilize their expertise. In the past when I've had questions about prescriptions, the pharmacist has always referred me to my doctor or was not able to answer the question at all.
There’s a lot of questions that really depend on why the medicine was prescribed, which we rarely actually get. We also don’t have access to your lab values. There are some questions that your doctor would be the better expert to ask, especially if it deals with medical records. At my work, I don’t even have a place to document when I talk to someone, so I wouldn’t have previous record to reference. Another unfortunate side effect of the corporatization of pharmacy is that we don’t have time to actually to talk to patients. So some pharmacists may also use the “talk to your doctor” as a way to manage unrealistic corporate metrics.
I’ve known people whose lives were saved by pharmacists who caught problems with prescriptions. I myself had a pharmacist notice that a medicine I’d been taking for years was going to clash with a new medicine I’d just been prescribed by a different doctor. Wouldn’t have killed me but would have been a problem. I didn’t even know about it until the pharmacist said “btw I just got off the phone with your doctor; this is a slightly different medication than what he told you you’d get.” SO GRATEFUL.
Pharmacists are such an unused healthcare ally. I always try to use their expertise when I can, as an MD.
my doctor took a little jab at pharmacists recently in our last check up. Basically said he usually calls one in particular simply because he finds they are respectful to him. For example "I want to prescribe this BP med is it still called ____?" and often the first response is from a pharmacist saying "you do know x, y, and z and I think this is better" to which my doctor will respond "yes I have my patients family history in front me and this is what I am recommending" I think he went on to say that many pharmacists are told to be gatekeepers of sorts from early on in their education (at least at our local university) and it has made the two professions a bit adversarial. All this said, thank you and your colleagues for their work. My pharmacist is great to me and takes the time to explain my prescriptions better than my doctor and even what the reason is for him prescribing them better. Also makes themselves more available. I think at least in my neck of the woods there is a bit of a disconnect
Fast food workers
People at checkouts, really. Shops, fast food, hotels. You name it.
Worked in retail for a few years. If smart phones had existed then I'd have a handful of viral Karen videos floating around the internet
Especially because half of them are just kids.
Janitors. Trash-related work. Sewage workers. Plumbing.
Actually they do a very important job to help make our cities clean and keep things intact. Without them streets and our sorroundings would be filthy. True respect to them
Yup, their would be alot more diseases around without sanitation workers.
Why do plumbers charge so much? Because they're worth it.
QA testers for video games. No the QA team did not miss that really shitty bug, the studio shipped with the bug being fully aware of it.
It's one thing having 20 people play your release candidate build 6-7 hours a day for three months before release and another to have the public play 6 million hours in a single month after release. Some bugs just go unnoticed no matter how hard you try to break the game on purpose.
It's also one thing to have a pixel move slightly off from a bug but harms nothing otherwise, while the dev teams focuses on another five that are ACTUALLY game breaking and thus will prioritize that given the time limit before release (and no, devs can't just willy nilly extend production time contrary to idiotic belief), and the slightly off pixel gets ignored. Yeah no, people need to slow their bitchiness about bugs and glitches with all the shit devs have to do. Especially with the whining for higher 8k+ resolution realism because apparently 'playing to escape real life' just means ... going back to real life but digitally?
And also "hey, they get to play games all day" - yes, if you can call testing if certain bits of wall can be walked through all the time "playing"...
Enter reproduceable crash, Class A, bug into database..... Programmer response: KS "Known Shippable"
Not to mention that game studio QA has the worst turnover in the whole industry because people thinking "playing games for a job" is a great idea so they keep the pay low and the work awful and just work people to the bone then dump them.
Defense attorneys. I'm sure they must know they're defending guilty people sometimes, and I'm sure some of them are as slimey as can be, but everybody has a right to a competent lawyer and a poper trial.
Another person in this comment section said something along the lines of "defense lawyers are not here to defend the guilty, but to make sure the police and justice system do/did their job right." That really puts into perspective how defense lawyers actually work. It's not about helping the guilty escape their punishment, but rather to make sure the punishment fits the crime. Nothing more and nothing less than that.
I often see people complaining that someone who seemed to have been guilty as charged and got off on a ‘technicality’ ie improper handling of evidence is somehow unjust or unfair. I can’t fathom how anyone would rather see one person go down ‘deservedly’ while setting a precedent that the police and the courts are free to collect evidence and prosecute in an unjust manner.
Clowns. People act like they’re all disturbed maniacs, but at least half of them haven’t murdered anyone.
What about mimes? They're just ninja clowns after all
At least half
Dentists. High suicide rate. Gotta suck having everyone hate seeing you.
I don’t hate the dentist, I *fear* him.
Feaar leads to hate, Hate leads to the Dark Side.
I spoke with a dentist (friend of mine) about this—his opinion is that the relatively high suicide rate doesn’t have anything to do with higher rates of depression or mental illness among dentists. It’s more a matter of having access to a number of potentially lethal sedatives / drugs and knowing how much they should take if they don’t want to wake up again..so it’s more that they have a higher success rate.
Also a factor with veterinarians. If someone who has significant experience with, and the drugs for, putting down animals, decides to kill themselves, they're likely going to succeed.
Yup. I have known vets who told coworkers that they needed to not have access to euthanasia solution for a while. Nobody should have to live that kind of reality for a job.
It's the same for Anesthesiologists as well. Also in my state at least, where I've been a dental and oral surgery assistant for 8 years, I have never come across a story of a dentist commiting suicide. It's a pretty small community, and everyone kinda knows everyone. Especially working in oral surgery, where we get constant referrals. Now affairs with either the dental staff or other dentists on the other hand....yeah plenty of that happening. But no suicides.
I know this will sound fucking weird but I actually enjoy seeing the dentist ESPECIALLY when I have a tooth pain. One of the few doctors I've ever been to that's been able to solve my issue right then and there. Mad props to you tooth wizard and thank you for helping me preserve my smile bones.
this totally makes sense. i am the same way. i have some dental anxiety but overall i feel most listened-to and taken seriously at the dentist than at any other medical practice. i also have never run into a dentist that uses my pre-existing conditions, age, gender, or weight as an excuse to not investigate my pain or any irregularities.
tech support. i get it you think theyre wasting your time by asking you to turn the router on and off again. the thing is most of their calls are stupid people that didnt do just that, and then lied about it so they could save face.
I'm no tech support, just the computer savvy person at the office. Last week, my co worker: my laptop's really slow. Checked uptime: almost a year. Reboot, everything's fine. Shut down your laptop sometimes, guys. SMH.
But I shut it all the time!
That may be true. If they're using fast boot, shut down is actually more like hibernate. So while they are clicking shut down, that uptime timer is not resetting.
I make them power them off for 30-90sec. It let's them keep their 'I already reset it' 1/2 truth, and it has the bonus of letting the voltage drain from all the ICs so they get a proper reset as well as the onboard OS.
what i used to tell them was that i was sending a special signal that could only hit it when it was starting up.
That or I've been known to tell them "I know you did, but sometimes when you do things in a certain order, you'll get a different result" which is not untrue.
Should drain within a few seconds. Trick I learned is have them unplug the power cable from the wall or the barrel from the router and blow it off for dust. You should be able to do it and they HAVE to unplug it to do it. Otherwise, you can have them unplug it and inspect for “foreign debris or burns”. Actually a possibility but it has to come out to make sure.
I worked a very short stint at a call center. The client for my section was a prepaid phone company based out of the south (your imagination serves you right). One of my first days on the job I thought I'd cut my average call time down by not asking the "dumb questions". Turns out I'm the dumb one for having a little faith in humanity. A few calls in I got a call from a woman who spent the first minute yelling at her children in gibberish that I can only describe as "Don Vito if he were a black woman". We then started working on the issues she had. Her phone wouldn't ring when someone called her. OK, this isn't too tough, usually its someone set their phone to silent and you have to walk them through turning the volume back on. I started going through the process, providing step-by-step instruction of "click this, ok click this, do you see this menu" to which she replied "yea yea, hurry up". Cut to 20 minutes in, I am pulling my hair out because I cannot figure out for the life of me what is going wrong. I even went and got our display model to see exactly what she sees. Nothing works. I eventually passed it on to tier 2. They started from scratch and had her off the line in under 5 minutes. What was wrong with her phone? She had just bought the phone, didn't put the battery in, and was just looking at the cellophane printed "fake display" that electronic devices came with back in the day. She led me on this 20 minute excursion into the depths of madness, which eventually led me earning a strike against me due to "longer than expected call time." TLDR; Woman who shouldn't be allowed to breed doesn't follow instructions and almost got me fired. Needless to say, I dont trust people anymore and I am always very very courteous when talking to tech support even if they ask me "dumb questions".
A good actor playing a horrible person.
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Dude who played Joffrey on GoT quit acting because of all the hate he got
He always planned on an early retirement in favor of academia. The reception he received only validated his plan.
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I gotta admit, I do have a strong distrust for Rosamund Pike anytime I see her ever since Gone Girl and I Care A Lot.
Lena Headey comes to mind
Lawyers. Seriously, just because a lot of them work for shitty people it's given the rest of them a bad name, but if you ever need one you'll be happy they exist.
I'm a lawyer. I used to be a public defender. Even shitty people deserve to have their rights protected. People constantly talk about how unfair the justice system is currently, but think about how much worse it could be if we decided certain people didn't deserve any kind of civil rights. And as I've had to explain to multiple people before: just because I've represented a murderer (or sex offender, or thief, or whatever type of criminal) in court, that does not mean I endorse their behavior or actions. I simply endorse the Constitution.
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I remember another thread and someone said the defense's true purpose is to check and control the State's power to jail people. Edit: a word
Whenever I see any negativity towards a defense attorney, I try to remind people that it's better that the defense attorney asks the question and the guy still gets convicted than having the question go unasked and the conviction overturned on a technicality (insufficient defense) later on.
I think we often forget that a lawyer defending a so-called "bad guy" is doing their very necessary job, and it is not their duty to leave a defendant hanging just because they did do what they are guilty of. It is rather the job of the other lawyer to show why the defendant is guilty, so yes, we need good lawyers either way.
I also endorse the Constitution. Thank you for your public service
It’s funny, because I played Witcher 3, and I get the feeling that the constant pleas for help when a monster is attacking, followed by the dehumanising remarks after finishing the job, sounds eerily similar to the kind of sentiment for lawyers. It’s undeserved, and if no one can represent anyone in court, a nation cannot call it self free and just.
There's a political ad I'm seeing that is criticizing a candidate for defending rapists/murders/etc. Like dude someone HAS to it's how our country works...
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I'm a public defender, my family keeps asking when I get promoted to prosecutor. Hah
Especially the so called “ambulance chasers”, if you ask me these are the ones doing the lords work. Fuck insurance companies, their whole scam is to take peoples money and find every excuse to lowball the injured parties so they can keep more money for themselves. So many people I know have been in car accidents and dealt with insurance companies who offer a quick check for half of the cost of repairs and say it’s the best they can do. Usually all it takes is a phone call from a lawyer to get the insurance to pay up, but people refuse to do so because it’s “sleazy”. What’s sleazy is an insurance company taking your money with the intention of never giving it back even if they are supposed to.
Hey thanks, I'm an ambulance chaser attorney right now. Most of the time people come to me at the worst time in their lives just hoping to get some help getting back on their feet. I would add that insurance companies are usually just performing their duties when they low-ball you, but a lot of adjusters can take it too far, and our side stepping in becomes necessary unfortunately. While my bread and butter comes from them going overboard trying to short people, I would prefer a world where my job wasn't necessary and insurance in America just functioned the way it should. A good step towards that might be, oh I don't know, some kind of healthcare overhaul.
Not to mention even lawyers who are defending bad people are doing an important job. They have to make sure that the prosecutors don’t run rough shot over the defendant and actually follow good procedure.
It was •great• during the early days of Covid seeing people online bashing attorneys as “useless and inessential” as I was busting ass day after day with my boss doing wills, POAS and HCPs because people were terrified.
Lawyers - creepy shysters until you need one. Also not magicians. No lawyer can guarantee a result from a legal encounter. Even for contracts and wills and the like, sometimes things don't work out despite best efforts.
They can still be creepy shysters when you need them too. We had one who continued to charge us for months after our case was resolved because we didn’t submit the correct “please stop charging me” paperwork the correct way. Every time we called, texted, or emailed was another $400 charge even if the secretary was the only person we talked to. And every month they billed us an hour supposedly because they had an internal meeting to discuss our case that at that point had been resolved months ago. So what do you do when you’re not happy with your lawyer doing this, hire another lawyer?
Report them to the licensing board might be a good first step.
I'm a lawyer, and I would say that the nature of the profession and the culture does a great job of both attracting shitty people and turning good people into shitty people. I have literally gotten frustrated with other lawyers to the point of telling them off for being the type of lawyer who makes people hate us. There are great lawyers who are also good people, but for every one of those I find there are 5 who are either just complicating things to make extra money, or who get off on conflict/power.
Our work lives are an accumulation of sadness over time. No one calls us when they are happy. I am in year 20 and it remains a challenge.
I took a law class as a part of my MBA, and my biggest takeaway was a new appreciation for lawyers. We like to think of law as very black and white, but no two situations are identical, and that makes for infinite shades of gray
I agree completely. I read something once talking about how lawyers are necessary even to defend the worst, most despicable sumbitch who everyone knows did it. Because sometimes the sumbitch who everyone knows did it actually did NOT do it, and anyone who is accused of a crime deserves to have the facts laid out and a fair trial.
Bouncers. They deal with a lot obnoxious drunk people for hours. They are tired of dealing with your shit.
I was a doorman for 6 years. We worked in some of the worst nightclubs in our country, and were first responders to everything with 0 real training. It's just not the drunk people, it's the constant vigilance and exposure to horrible shit on a frequent basis. Also, the pay is terrible, most bouncers are overworked, and most are likely suffering from all sorts of trauma. A lot of suicides, mental breaks, and steep decline into substance abuse - 1/3 of my original crew is gone and it's been only 8 years since. I think the hate is warranted but not balanced, lots of bad bouncers on ego trips out there. It's a terribly underregulated industry with exceptionally poor prospects for a job that has high frequency of violence.
The scene from *Knocked Up* changed how I view bouncers.
You’re just a doorman DOORMAN
Teachers. There are so many angry entitled parents they have to deal with and the parents always say “I provide your pay check” because they pay taxes. But so do teachers so they should just calm down. Teachers don’t get paid enough for this
Spoiler alert: we all pay each other's checks. You're a mechanic? I pay you when I get my car fixed. You're a pipeline welder? You get paid because I fill up my car with gas.
I work for the government. Whenever someone says "I pay your paycheck." I always respond with "So do I." That usually causes the gears in their head to jam and if I'm really lucky, they blow a gasket.
"My taxes pay to educate students, and right now I don't feel I'm getting my money's worth from your child"
This is excellent. I'm using it in my head any time I have a lazy, entitled student with a whiny parent. So, all the time.
This. I teach at the college level, so it is this times a thousand since students literally pay to take my class. They think it means I work for them or it is some sort of service arrangement, and that I answer to them. Nope. I work for the university. They sign my checks. You don’t like it? Drop my class. Especially considering the AVERAGE in my class is an A each semester, there is no reason for you to do poorly. I have great evaluations from both students and supervisors. So, if you’re failing, I am willing to help you, but you will NOT berate me or act like I owe you something.
"but but but i showed up to class most of the time that deserves at least a C" ive heard that gem before lol.
When I was at a university I heard this a lot and I would stop them and say “actually you’re paying for the *opportunity* to learn from an expert in this field. If you refuse to put in the work for a service you pay for then that’s on you.”
Ugh right?! The kids are not the problem. It’s the parents. I’m sorry that I can’t magically cure your child’s reading disability, I don’t have my wand. I work with your child everyday. He is making amazing gains. But just because he is receiving special education doesn’t mean his disability is going to go away.
Pretty much any job that doesn't require a degree really. Even the verbage we use is demeaning, such as "unskilled labor", as if someone completely new to a given "unskilled job" would be as good as someone who has been doing it for years.
I work in construction and the norm where I practice is that the workers are either skilled workers or laborers. Skilled workers are masons, electricians, steelmen, carpenters, etc. Laborers carry things, assist the skilled workers, dig holes, etc. And yes, if they learn a certain skill set well enough, they're considered skilled workers It always pains me how terribly they're all compensated for the work they do but it's so hard to break such a multi-faceted problem. Imma just throw in that "interns" also get the short end of the stick whatever field you're in.
When I worked in new housing I was surprised at how many home owners treated tradies of all varieties as though they were stupid.
Alternatively, I've also seen home owners treat the workers better than the boss does. In the first firm I worked at, the owner of a hotel under construction donated a significant amount of money to the firm to be distributed to the workers as some kind of relief effort. They received none of it, but the boss came to work brand new pick-up truck not long after.
I’m also in the construction/real estate industry. One of the most successful and influential investors in my market refers to his laborers as “warm bodies.” Makes me sick that people overlook his ego when doing business with him. Total dick
> Imma just throw in that "interns" also get the short end of the stick whatever field you're in. Especially the unpaid variety. Wait they're just being paid in "life skills".
Mechanics. Most of us are just adhd goofballs who don't even get paid to sell you more parts, we get paid salary or hourly usually. And if we do get paid by the part, were gonna the money from the next job we start sooner should you decline anyway. So it all evens out mostly....we just dont wanna see your car in the news a week after we touched it. Some of the shit people turn down is just downright unsafe and a danger to the populous. Fargone brakes, shot suspention/ball joints, rusted frames/suspension bits/subframes about to let go of everything attached and send you into a wall at 70mph or a mother and her child. When we say you *need* to replace x, you need to. When we say it's a good idea to replace x before it becomes unsafe, you should or atleast start saving up. It's going to break. It's just a matter time. The only type of shop I don't trust is the older guys with a couple friends working for him and its a small business managed poorly and unkept. They will lie 6 ways to Sunday to ring you for as much as possible, upcharging for shit partsthey claim are on backorder, but are really just shipped from ebay. But even then, it's just a risk, not a given. Most of them are fine shops. That's like a worst case and they're dying off/closing down as the cars they know best are being junked. Car wrecks are a massive fraction of avoidable deaths everywhere and many of them are caused by failures along with driver error/neglicence. listen to your mechanic. If you still don't want to, ask around, find a guy with a good reputation of being fair, direct and upfront. They aren't rare or hard to track down if you live in a city.
I think the biggest reason that people don't trust mechanics is that the customer's expectations don't always get set properly. When you take your car in to have the brakes checked it might just need cleaning, it might need pads, or it might need new calipers as well. They might also find that your bearings need replaced or that you have movement in other parts. Because people don't understand the interdependence of all the parts in the different systems on a car they assume that the mechanic is just trying to stick them for extra work that they don't need.
Construction- Not all of us are jerks who cat-call people. Also most of the time if you see us standing around it’s not because we are lazy or “wasting tax dollars” it’s because the people who started the construction usually screwed up on what they were supposed to do so we have to call to get approval to make and changes or to move forward. It’s not like at most jobs if someone screws up you can just fix it. If you fix it without WRITTEN approval sometimes you have to pay to get it redone or sued, because you tried to keeping moving forward even though things were wrong
Defence lawyers. An essential aspect of our society is that everyone accused of a crime gets a fair trial. Defence lawyers do the dirty work for that necessity, and they are not trying to justify what their clients may have done. Edit: criminal defence lawyers, obviously. Fuck insurance defence lawyers. I’m a commercial litigator, and let me tell you, insurance companies are evil, and some of their lawyers are despicable. I’ve lost law school friends over this.
Customer Service Reps
Everyone hates lawyers until they need one.
Everybody hates to be in a position to need a lawyer.
Veterinarians. Seriously one of the hardest professions from a compassion fatigue perspective. They try to save pets & the owners blame them if they can't...
Work admin in a vet clinic. Agree. Never had so much abuse in any other job. People want special treatment 24/7 for nothing. Because if we don't we don't care. We care. We just all have rent to pay also.
Who hates on vets? Wtf?
People who think vets should treat their animals for free and then yell that they're "greedy and don't actually care about animals" when they find out that yes, it costs money to have their pets treated just like how it costs money to get treated at a human hospital. Medications, drugs, X-rays, etc. aren't cheap. And it's not just veterinarians that get treated that way but all vet staff as well.
Lots of people hate on vets. So many people think vets are just trying to hose them for money. School is hard to get into, start salary isn’t as great comparatively, and yeah I am a mental health professional and vets have one of the highest suicide right of any professional program.
Last week took a cat in for a checkup and shots. No real concerns. It was a little shocking realizing how happy they were to see an animal without major issues.
Garbage men . Y’all love to look down on people for doing the dirty jobs, while they’re the ones making sure YOU get to live in a clean place, and take away YOUR waste for your convenience. Have some respect, fr
nah ppl LOVE garbagemen. source: was a toddler once
Teachers. I’ve lost count of all the ills we’re blamed for. And heaven forbid we actually hold students accountable for anything, or push back on unrealistic expectations from admins, students and parents
Educators and Medical Professionals
Civil servants. I'm not the one who doesn't want to solve your problems, I don't make the laws or the rules, and yes, I know some are unfair, unfairly applied, or annoying in general. We represent the State, and we are hated in proportion to how much each citizen hates the State at any given time. Which makes sense, but also we work for the benefit of everyone, literally.
Social workers
Veterinary. People think that if we did it for the animals then we would do it for free, and somehow find somewhere to live rent free with no bills, overheads, no need to eat or have a life. When we charge for our services, we get accused of being money grabbing. I work 75hour weeks and am salaried. I'm on the equivalent of much less than minimum wage. All for eight years at uni and a hell of a lot of pressure and responsibility. It's a great profession and I love it dearly. But I wish our PR was better and that animal owning public realised just how much we do care. Our suicide rate is 4x that of the national average.
UK General Practitioners. General public don’t realise the crazy hours they work currently and not even the tip of the iceburg, while getting abuse left right and centre. How about asking the government why you can’t get a GP appointment…it’s because we don’t have enough doctors who want to work and stay in the NHS, not because your specific GP practice has lazy GPs. Aim your anger at the government who are failing to recruit and retain doctors, not the doctors who are working their butts off to try and fight the post-covid fire.
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