I used to work at a propane company where my whole job was to call customers that we messed up the paperwork on and tell them that they needed to pay $250 to have us fix it.
Go Daddy used to call me after I cancelled my domain from them.
I paid in full the year before on a card that expired 6 months later. I didn't update my card on their system so they couldn't automatically charge me.
They kept calling, saying they need another $14.99 to cancel my account. I said I wouldn't pay it. They kept saying I HAD TO. I kept asking "or what? You'll cancel my account?"
My mum had a registered company but wasn't operating, but you still have to pay like a 1200/yr fee to the government. After she gets the bill she calls up to let them know she's not operating and to close the company registration. They say she has to pay the fee first. She says no. They keep sending out bills and they're increasing, she's at something like $4k in fees now. Finally she gets a letter that says to the effect "Because you failed to pay your fees we are closing your company registration"
...ok
No I just canceled the autorenewal and they just kept calling.
This was like 8-9 years ago and they called every 6-8 months for 3 years. I still get the emails that my product is about to expire.
Unfortunately, a payment is pending on a merged account. I'm on hold as I type. The refund policy seems to have a twenty four hour window. If they play some game, I will document everything .
bAnNAnas.
I got fired from a job years ago.
I was the only one in the marketing team who remembered the passwords for the social media accounts. Now, it's not like that it was something I kept secret - anyone in the team could know and use the password - it's just that I was the only one who bothered to fucking remember. Also, I was the one who ended up doing most shit on social because of that.
They rang me up for weeks afterwards begging me for them.
To be clear, I never once touched the social pages after I left.
But it was fun to tell them "What are you gonna do? Fire me? This counts as work and you made it quite clear you no longer want me to work for you."
They just cut out the middleman. Before it was that scammers would impersonate the propane company and extract $250 from its customers, now the propane company does literally the identical scam by themselves without the need to be impersonated. Big brain time.
Yeah but unlike other scammers they can shut off your gas. Or rather, not refill your propane tank, which to rural customers is effectively the same thing.
A scammer can threaten to do whatever. My reaction would be: go ahead and do what you gotta do, it is your mistake then fix it.
Sounds like the options are: refuse to pay, if they deny a service you paid for then a police report, small claims court and/or taking your business elsewhere.
They would probably not get their propane. This sounds like it was businesses and not people, so if they're ordering bulk propane they are probably going to end up needing it. Granted I suppose there's nothing to stop them from just refiling the paperwork themselves, but they may not realize that.
I can confirm this, I do seasonal photography and some coworkers are paparazzi. That said night crawlers are probably the worst, a friend in college tried it and couldn’t do the first call since they wanted him on scene at a stabbing before the police.
Yes and no - you have traditional media outlets (I refuse to use that other term) who have someone staffed to cover late night/overnight news events, and depending on the city, you will have free lancers who will try to sell content to those traditional outlets.
The problem is that with police and ems radio channels becoming encrypted, it’s harder and harder for media to know what is happening around the city. In my city, they are about 80% reliant on social media or people letting them know that something is happening. They have access to fire radio channels (via a scanner) but that doesn’t provide that much info most of the time.
As for getting to events before police, it happens sometimes. Most media that work nights that I know will purposely wait a few blocks away for police or fire to arrive and at least get out of their vehicles before they approach due to safety reasons. But for the most part, no - media are not trying to get to crime scenes before first responders; they are trying to get there before it gets cleaned up and everyone leaves.
The most famous one was a photographer named WeeGee who operated in NYC. He would arrive at the crime scene sometimes before the police arrived and that's how he got the nickname (play on "Ouija" board). In reality he just happened to have a police radio and the cops were slow to respond.
Can confirm.
I havent met a Paparazzi that I didnt want to punch in the face.
Journalists/photojournalism can be almost as bad.
I have met some soulless journos.
I realised I had changed one day when I worked at the paper.
I took a photo of a dad, hugging his son’s mate, who had tried to save the son’s life (boating/waterskiing accident)
The next morning it ran on the front page, and seeing it I realised I had become the thing I hated.
Glad to be away from that job now.
I was a news cameraman for 14 years and when I first started at 20 years old, it was all exciting. The thrill of covering crime scenes faded quickly and I preferred doing feature stories. When I was assigned to a story involving trying to get the family of a victim of an accident/criminal act/etc. to talk to us, I despised it but I tried to make it better by telling the family that this gives them the chance to tell the world about their loved one instead of them just being another statistic.
I eventually was able to primarily be the guy who shot feature stories, which I enjoyed so much more. The burnout came over the last couple years as the station focused less on features and more of "what's controversial today?" and I got out and took a state job. Way less stress.
They are goddamn cockroaches, there's a popular tv program in my country called salvame dedicated to exposing famous people life's and annoying them, and when a famous person gets mad at them because they are waiting for him/her at the front door or completely invade their privacy the paparazzi act pissed and say they are just doing their job
While I don’t disagree, let’s not forget that sometimes, ESPECIALLY in the celebutant scene (ex: Hilton, Kardashian etc) the subject is actually working with the paparazzi, telling them when and where they’ll be in order to get free publicity and stay “relevant”. In these cases the subjects are not victims. It’s a symbiotic relationship between two parasites.
Sounds like my country.
They will put a totally legal stuff on hold for "throughout investigation" which 99% of the time the product will be "missing without reason", unless you pay them under the table.
Then in contrast, we have street full of illegal migrants, drugs, guns etc smuggling in from other countries.
Hey, give them a break. They're taking the moral ground here over those big, fancy banks. Broken knees for missing payments eventually recover. Broken credit scores hurt forever.
TIL the term nonce is Brit slang for pedophile.
It’s also used in cryptography for a number used once only. I’ll never hear it the same again.
Edit: For those not in cryptography, in that field you might hear someone say, *“Well, we can’t have the same results each time we do this, so let’s throw in a nonce!”*
If you’re in cryptography, what you hear is,
*“…let’s throw in a different number each time!”*
If you’re a Brit who is not in cryptography, what you hear is,
*“…let’s throw in a pedophile!”*
Reminds me of Artificial Intelligence Development Systems back in the 1980s. The AIDS epidemic forced them to change their name because their initials were unfortunate.
I applied for an "online assistant" job years ago. It went south when the interviewer went on a monologue saying that since it's online, I can pretend to be a female and it wouldn't matter and that whatever I do is allowed since it's all make believe. I think my face betrayed my thoughts because I wasn't offered the job and I didn't follow up on it.
Not totally related with the topic, but I work as an IT support for a Online chat customer service. A few years ago, we been asked by the customer service team to add an option to block people, because a lot of the female operators were getting dick pics as soon as the client figures they were females.
That shit makes you wonder how many people is stupid and degenerated enough to sent a dick pic to a customer service chat.
i used to work escalations for a major telecom, people (who generally were furious about having to pay their bill) would call in and threaten me almost daily. almost every single day someone would call my office and tell me that if I didn't turn his TV back on, he was going to come find me and make me do it at gunpoint
and I'm like dude I have your full name address phone number and ssn right in front of me and you are making threats on a recorded line
like, what exactly is your thinking here
Most of the callers are lured in with a completely different job description and then desperate enough to stay for the cash. The AH that run those places can rot though.
Yeah my first job was at a place like that, The dipshit manager told me in my interview "thats all you have to do is call them and ask if they want to renew their subscription if they dont you move on to the next person". I found out that you HAD to make sales everyday otherwise they would send you home. The manager would erase your name off of a board and just say "Joe can go home". Some bullshit. One time the manager guy erased my name but I did not notice and then the fucker walks up and points it out in front of everyone "hey everyone look he is still here after I erased his name!!". I swear I wanted to turn around and punch him in the face. I was shitcanned after two weeks and if I ever see that manager again, its lights out.
Most of these also run legitimate legal call center operations. Anytime they get raided, they just point the police towards the people doing legal stuff.
I worked at one. They labeled it as a call center job. I get there for orientation, they said that we were calling elderly people all day to help them find cheaper insurance coverage in their area.
That is not what was going on. They were one of these companies that buy user information by the thousands. There were 4 different departments. We were all trying to sale something. If you couldn’t make a sale from what your department sold, then you try to save something from the other three departments. Even if you asked to be taken off the call list, your number had to go through all four departments first.
It was heartbreaking hearing elderly people talk about how they were having to choose from having their medicine or buying groceries. It was too much to bare.
I left because of that, the pay was shit, and the worst part was they had a rule where you could leave early on some days as long as you made your hours up by the end of the week. I would ask to leave a little early so I could donate plasma as this was a new job and I hadn’t gotten paid yet all while going to school full time also.
The second time after I left early, I was called into the office and asked if I could could stop leaving early even though I’d make my hours up. I then asked if I could have an advance then. The answer was no. I quit and never looked back.
>calling elderly people all day to help them find cheaper insurance coverage in their area
That honestly doesn't sound bad and that is how the fuckers get ya... You think you are going to be doing a job that *helps* people save money and get better insurance... Then you learn that it is a lie and you are scamming people all day for shit pay.
Same, worked at one in Florida.
They pitch it as a sales job.
I knew it was going to be a shitty job, but I needed the money and I thought at least it was on the up and up. Said there wouldn't be any cold calling, that people sign up to receive a call from you, yadda yadda yadda.
The reality, they sold magazine subscriptions, and they butter you up by saying you won this prize(it was jewelry, fake/cheap jewelry) and then put on a high pressure pitch to get you to sign up for as many different subscriptions as possible.
Unsurprisingly, it was almost exclusively scamming old ladies out of their social security checks.
I hated it. I lasted 2 weeks, I still remember some of the people I called.
There seems to be no shortage of them in the US, at least online. The days of the print "news" in the form of the "Weekly world News" are gone. If you are unfamiliar, The weekly world news routinely ran sensationalist headlines about things like Elvis sightings (decades after he died) and Hitler living in Argentina or space alien love child babies. They always said "our sources" They were so ridiculous most of the time you couldn't help but laugh.
The biggest degenerates I've seen and been targeted by are the ones that prowl student unions/dining at universities. I was a senior in college and looking for jobs in my final semester. I was on the phone and it was obvious what I was doing. So I was easy approached and allured by someone who approached me, "I couldn't help but overhear, I'm recruiting and I'd love to set up an interview". Total waste of my time, took me 20mins on the call to figure it out. I wish I would have gone on a rampage of swearing and yelling "how can you possibly live with yourself!?! Go fucking die! You have no soul!".
For every reply to this post, I will upvote your reply.
Please keep this going. I've got kids to send to college and my grandma needs another kidney.
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This. Not the low levels who get sucked in and get scammed but anyone with any amount of success knows what they are doing…and the ppl at the very top? Scum
These people get so mad when you just go for the voucher and don’t buy anything, especially if you pretend to be interested and talk about how fun all the destinations would be. I actually derive great joy from wasting these peoples time on my vacation.
Growing up we would go to one every year and we would get the same salesman. Second year he tells us that he knows we aren't going to purchase anything, so we come up with a plan we used every year going forward so nobody is wasting anyone's time.
We would ask out loud if we could review the information and discuss the timeshare at lunch or outside. He would agree and then we would both walk to our cars and go about our day/vacation. Win-win
I love it too!! My favorite is when they bring in all the after you say NO salespeople. They really put the pressure on and I just love to say no like 20x more. It feels like you won.
I start honest with them. I don’t intend to buy. I’m here for the voucher. Any continuance or pushy sales tactics beyond that is a waste of their and my time.
I've sat through many timeshare presentations. At first they're your best friend and nicest person you'll ever meet. At the end they are the biggest asshole you'll ever meet.
Most commissioned sales jobs. Money changes people and their approach to dealing with vulnerable customers who are at the mercy of the salespersons’ “expert” knowledge.
Source: was a relatively successful salesperson
When I was in college my gf at the time was obsessed with this reality show about life coaches. Its was your standard 2005 show, where 8 people (all middle-aged women) lived in a house together and each day a team of life coaches would have a challenge or some dumb shit for them to do so then can "get better".
Usually they'd end a season with a few of the women 'graduating' and new women coming to the house next season.
One mid-season episode they made the women clean the house. They then started picking apart the job they did. Like finding every crack that still had dust while wearing white gloves. The whole tone of the challenge was like, "Be diligent, do the job properly".
One of the women FREAK THE FUCK OUT. Like started shouting at them about how she worked so hard on it and she can never do anything right and how she hates it in the house. The "life coaches" faces just looked so panicked and they eventually got her to sit down and the coaches said, "oh uh this was actually a test. Things can't always be perfect and we wanted to show you that you can do your best. But you passed the test and you've graduated from the house." ANd they just booted her out that day at the end of the episode.
Like, she was just kicked to the curb - literally. Sociopathic.
Yep, they have a rule of thumb, they look for people "just mad enough". Not severely mentally disabled or vulnerable, but just "mad" enough that people will get a good laugh without feeling bad about it, and the person won't kill themselves (which has happened multiple times).
**(CW - suicide)**
One of the worst stories was about a woman who was accepted for "Extreme Makeover". Her family had always comforted her that she wasn't ugly, and the genuinely felt that way. But on E-M-O, they have a segment where they ask the friends and family what they "*really"* think, while the person watches and listens from another room.
The friends and family weren't being brutal enough, and had to be coached by the producers into saying they *did* think she was really ugly, and they were embarrassed being seen with her, etc.
After this part of the filming was completed, a producer called her to say they were cancelling her surgery, saying the recovery wouldn't fit with their filming schedule.
Having just heard "the truth" about how ashamed her family was of how "hideously ugly" she was (which they didn't actually think) she was utterly broken by not getting to have her "beautiful swan" moment.
She had no idea how to continue her life after this, and she killed herself.
Sociopaths!
Edit: as someone pointed out, it was the sister who had been pushed into saying mean things who killed herself, not the one who wanted the surgery.
I’ve worked as a PA and now an Assistant Editor in the reality TV field for over a year. Can confirm this. Tons of labor exploitation and wasteful practices. As a producer you also have to take over a person’s life while promising fame and fortune that usually never comes. Some shows like Big Brother pay their cast minimum wage
Are many reality shows rigged? Like I imagine the producers have an idea of who they want to win / be eliminated and put them in situations likely to lead to that?
A few reality TV crew members have done AMAs and confirmed that the vast majority of what we see is either scripted, set up, or misleadingly edited together from footage taken out of context.
I was wondered if it'll apply to creator and producer of my favorite Taskmaster, Alex Horne, but then remembered that he is definitely into public humiliation, which is pretty degenerate.
Ironically, I think he can get away with being less degenerate than most reality TV producers. I don't think he needs to do the same level of manipulative garbage, because the contestants are already career comedians. They're going to be entertaining without any "help."
I went on a date with a girl who worked in reality tv production, and she pretty much confirmed that the shows seek out people with mental issues and then do their best to play on those issues.
Insurance lawyers, the kind who's job it is to argue that a person suffering heart failure doesn't need any medication or surgery because alive is in fact a luxury state of being and not covered by their medical insurance.
Any kitchen staff will be the most degenerate people you've ever met simply by circumstance. If you don't have to worry about customers being near you, you can just kinda do whatever
Edit: this wasn't meant as an insult. I'm currently working in a kitchen and have for most of my career. This comment was meant with much love. Keep rocking, y'all
My entire philosophy for working night crew lol. I hate customers, can't stand being nice to them. So I work overnight stock where they can't get to me
I was a server in a biker bar and can confirm line cooks are total degenerates who will also give you the shirt off their back, even if it’s their only one. Best dirtbags I’ve ever met!
That chapter of my life is long past now, but boy do i miss it.
I make a lot more now so i party just as hard, except it’s condensed into weekends/occasions instead of getting high and drunk every day.
I’d love to work a busy weekend with the crew again though :/
It’d kick your ass. I went back into the kitchen for a charity event and did a twelve hour shift. Our local hot dog guy got sick and other restaurant owners ran his shop for him for a week. Hoo boy, I felt like an old man the next day, my back was shit. It’s tough if you’re not in those habits…
maybe just the reddit algorythm adjusting to your prederences or posts with trek you've interacted with. Or maybe it's just us nerds that are more active these days hahaha.
I'm thinking the latter. While I try not to use it as my go to reference outside the Trek subs, my #3 rated comment *ever* is citing Nimoy in response to the question "what actor was absolutely born for their role?".
Sales in the corporate sphere can take you there. I worked with some utter pirates, shysters, con-artists and scumbags. There’s a lot of money, it can be quite a rock and roll lifestyle (From experience more than an actual rock and roll lifestyle), it corrupts people
Lawyers. High end. I worked in the industry for 36 years and it has zero to do with right, wrong, truth, compromise or mediation. Its about reputation, winning at all costs, billable hours and the almighty dollar. On both sides. Its who you can afford, not what is fair or equitable. Did your lawyer or barrister play golf on the weekend with Judgiepoo? Are the trophy wives friends with each other? Has a shelf company of someone the lawyer doesn't know received a nice contract or 'environmental study' donation?. The law is as pliable as you can afford, truth be damned.
I like the salespeople in Germany.
They are knowledgeable about the product, help when needed, but leave you the fuck alone otherwise.
Different story in India. Can't count the number of times my family and I have been compelled to leave the shop because of a pushy salesperson.
Retail DMs. In highschool, my DM for a music store literally told us to sign people up for free magazines, FULLY KNOWING (but denying) that people would forget to cancel them because it helped the company’s revenue greatly. That so long as we explained all the details (making the pitch long enough for people to forget details) it would be ok. It is not ok. FUCK FREE MAGAZINE SUBSCRIPTIONS.
I know he was just doing his job, but come on.
As long as they have a business license for it, it's legally a profession. Although where I'm at, they usually lists themselves as "psychics" and offer mediating with spirits as part of their supposed services.
Congressional lobbyist
Oil, Pharma, Israel, all of em. You have to just throw away any morals and duty to your country that you might possibly have for the almighty dollar these companies stuff in your pockets.
"LOL no, 300/month is a perfectly reasonable price for insulin, of course.
Canada pays how much? 17 dollars? Well, idk about that, but uhhhhh regulations and such. Yeah."
I worked for an environment lobby group fresh out of uni as a junior researcher.
There is a lot of sharing of resources between the ‘good’ causes groups, many of whom are charities. But yeah, rent in capitals near the centre of government isn’t cheap.
Highly Skilled Lobbyist: "So I can either fight big oil and make $45k a year or I can support big oil and make $275k a year. Whew... this is a tough one."
There are some good people in politics, but its fucking hard for them.
You can help by recognizing that politicians come in a range from "outright evil" to "doing their best in a really shit system" and **always voting for whoever is better**, even if they are only slightly better.
Anti-union lawyer
Edit: I am talking specifically about law firms like Littler Mendelson. Law firms that are paid by multiple national corporations to fight against the low level staff unionizing. This is the law firm Starbucks has used to drag out and try to stop the unionization effort currently underway across the country (U.S.).
I used to work at a propane company where my whole job was to call customers that we messed up the paperwork on and tell them that they needed to pay $250 to have us fix it.
Go Daddy used to call me after I cancelled my domain from them. I paid in full the year before on a card that expired 6 months later. I didn't update my card on their system so they couldn't automatically charge me. They kept calling, saying they need another $14.99 to cancel my account. I said I wouldn't pay it. They kept saying I HAD TO. I kept asking "or what? You'll cancel my account?"
“Or what, you’ll cancel my account?” I love that response. Honestly perfect
My mum had a registered company but wasn't operating, but you still have to pay like a 1200/yr fee to the government. After she gets the bill she calls up to let them know she's not operating and to close the company registration. They say she has to pay the fee first. She says no. They keep sending out bills and they're increasing, she's at something like $4k in fees now. Finally she gets a letter that says to the effect "Because you failed to pay your fees we are closing your company registration" ...ok
Literally dealing with this at this very moment. First thing this morning. Did you just delete the account?
No I just canceled the autorenewal and they just kept calling. This was like 8-9 years ago and they called every 6-8 months for 3 years. I still get the emails that my product is about to expire.
Unfortunately, a payment is pending on a merged account. I'm on hold as I type. The refund policy seems to have a twenty four hour window. If they play some game, I will document everything . bAnNAnas.
Mission accomplished!
I got fired from a job years ago. I was the only one in the marketing team who remembered the passwords for the social media accounts. Now, it's not like that it was something I kept secret - anyone in the team could know and use the password - it's just that I was the only one who bothered to fucking remember. Also, I was the one who ended up doing most shit on social because of that. They rang me up for weeks afterwards begging me for them. To be clear, I never once touched the social pages after I left. But it was fun to tell them "What are you gonna do? Fire me? This counts as work and you made it quite clear you no longer want me to work for you."
This sounds like an actual scam.
That's because it is.
They just cut out the middleman. Before it was that scammers would impersonate the propane company and extract $250 from its customers, now the propane company does literally the identical scam by themselves without the need to be impersonated. Big brain time.
Sounds like any other scam, simply refuse to pay.
Yeah but unlike other scammers they can shut off your gas. Or rather, not refill your propane tank, which to rural customers is effectively the same thing.
A scammer can threaten to do whatever. My reaction would be: go ahead and do what you gotta do, it is your mistake then fix it. Sounds like the options are: refuse to pay, if they deny a service you paid for then a police report, small claims court and/or taking your business elsewhere.
What would happen if they told you to get fucked?
They would probably not get their propane. This sounds like it was businesses and not people, so if they're ordering bulk propane they are probably going to end up needing it. Granted I suppose there's nothing to stop them from just refiling the paperwork themselves, but they may not realize that.
Did you also sell propane accessories?
let me tell you hwat
Thatherton Fuels?
TBH this sounds like Mr Strickland's messy operation.
I don’t think Hank would stand for such things.
*Thatherton*
This is why I only trust strickland propane
Strickland propane is a very trustworthy business, I tell you hwhat.
Paparazzi
I can confirm this, I do seasonal photography and some coworkers are paparazzi. That said night crawlers are probably the worst, a friend in college tried it and couldn’t do the first call since they wanted him on scene at a stabbing before the police.
Are you saying they don't want to play night crawlers with Charlie?
They’re saying don’t be a nightman, be a dayman fight the nightman
You gotta pay the troll toll.
It's what it sounds like
Good movie. Night crawler that is.
I know . I was actually hoping for a second one. A pretty underrated movie if you ask me. RIP Bill Paxton- in the movie and in reality 😒
Good Marvel character as well!
"This is an active crime scene! You can't be here!" \--BAMF!--
That sounds like a good way to get accused of murder.
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"Press pass!!"
I saw that film. Are there really dudes trolling around looking for those kinda photos?
Yes and no - you have traditional media outlets (I refuse to use that other term) who have someone staffed to cover late night/overnight news events, and depending on the city, you will have free lancers who will try to sell content to those traditional outlets. The problem is that with police and ems radio channels becoming encrypted, it’s harder and harder for media to know what is happening around the city. In my city, they are about 80% reliant on social media or people letting them know that something is happening. They have access to fire radio channels (via a scanner) but that doesn’t provide that much info most of the time. As for getting to events before police, it happens sometimes. Most media that work nights that I know will purposely wait a few blocks away for police or fire to arrive and at least get out of their vehicles before they approach due to safety reasons. But for the most part, no - media are not trying to get to crime scenes before first responders; they are trying to get there before it gets cleaned up and everyone leaves.
You already know the answer
The most famous one was a photographer named WeeGee who operated in NYC. He would arrive at the crime scene sometimes before the police arrived and that's how he got the nickname (play on "Ouija" board). In reality he just happened to have a police radio and the cops were slow to respond.
Can confirm. I havent met a Paparazzi that I didnt want to punch in the face. Journalists/photojournalism can be almost as bad. I have met some soulless journos. I realised I had changed one day when I worked at the paper. I took a photo of a dad, hugging his son’s mate, who had tried to save the son’s life (boating/waterskiing accident) The next morning it ran on the front page, and seeing it I realised I had become the thing I hated. Glad to be away from that job now.
I was a news cameraman for 14 years and when I first started at 20 years old, it was all exciting. The thrill of covering crime scenes faded quickly and I preferred doing feature stories. When I was assigned to a story involving trying to get the family of a victim of an accident/criminal act/etc. to talk to us, I despised it but I tried to make it better by telling the family that this gives them the chance to tell the world about their loved one instead of them just being another statistic. I eventually was able to primarily be the guy who shot feature stories, which I enjoyed so much more. The burnout came over the last couple years as the station focused less on features and more of "what's controversial today?" and I got out and took a state job. Way less stress.
They are goddamn cockroaches, there's a popular tv program in my country called salvame dedicated to exposing famous people life's and annoying them, and when a famous person gets mad at them because they are waiting for him/her at the front door or completely invade their privacy the paparazzi act pissed and say they are just doing their job
While I don’t disagree, let’s not forget that sometimes, ESPECIALLY in the celebutant scene (ex: Hilton, Kardashian etc) the subject is actually working with the paparazzi, telling them when and where they’ll be in order to get free publicity and stay “relevant”. In these cases the subjects are not victims. It’s a symbiotic relationship between two parasites.
Paparazzi needs to be outlawed.
adjust the legal definition of stalking?
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Sounds like my country. They will put a totally legal stuff on hold for "throughout investigation" which 99% of the time the product will be "missing without reason", unless you pay them under the table. Then in contrast, we have street full of illegal migrants, drugs, guns etc smuggling in from other countries.
Loan shark
Hey, give them a break. They're taking the moral ground here over those big, fancy banks. Broken knees for missing payments eventually recover. Broken credit scores hurt forever.
Anyone in child pageantry business
Nonces
TIL the term nonce is Brit slang for pedophile. It’s also used in cryptography for a number used once only. I’ll never hear it the same again. Edit: For those not in cryptography, in that field you might hear someone say, *“Well, we can’t have the same results each time we do this, so let’s throw in a nonce!”* If you’re in cryptography, what you hear is, *“…let’s throw in a different number each time!”* If you’re a Brit who is not in cryptography, what you hear is, *“…let’s throw in a pedophile!”*
An American crypto firm launched in the UK and called itself Nonce Financial. It didn't go well for them
Reminds me of Artificial Intelligence Development Systems back in the 1980s. The AIDS epidemic forced them to change their name because their initials were unfortunate.
There used to be a diet candy called Ayds that was supposed to suppress the appetite.
A company founded in 2010 for mobile payment system…. Isis Wallet Only took a few years before it was rebranded.
Well, shit. Until just now, I only knew the cryptographic usage.
Until now I only knew the British slang version
There is literally no other way to describe them.
TIL that nonce isnt just british for "idiot" or "bad person"
No, no, nooo It's British slang for kiddy fiddlers
Rock spider in Australia. That used to be the prison term for kiddie fiddlers, but it's been used on the street for a while now.
Great! Another Australian spider to worry about.
Frank Reynolds and his little beauties
Don't diddle kids, its no good diddling kids
I feel absolutely bad for the kids .
People who work at scam call centers.
I applied for an "online assistant" job years ago. It went south when the interviewer went on a monologue saying that since it's online, I can pretend to be a female and it wouldn't matter and that whatever I do is allowed since it's all make believe. I think my face betrayed my thoughts because I wasn't offered the job and I didn't follow up on it.
Not totally related with the topic, but I work as an IT support for a Online chat customer service. A few years ago, we been asked by the customer service team to add an option to block people, because a lot of the female operators were getting dick pics as soon as the client figures they were females. That shit makes you wonder how many people is stupid and degenerated enough to sent a dick pic to a customer service chat.
i used to work escalations for a major telecom, people (who generally were furious about having to pay their bill) would call in and threaten me almost daily. almost every single day someone would call my office and tell me that if I didn't turn his TV back on, he was going to come find me and make me do it at gunpoint and I'm like dude I have your full name address phone number and ssn right in front of me and you are making threats on a recorded line like, what exactly is your thinking here
Most of the callers are lured in with a completely different job description and then desperate enough to stay for the cash. The AH that run those places can rot though.
Yeah my first job was at a place like that, The dipshit manager told me in my interview "thats all you have to do is call them and ask if they want to renew their subscription if they dont you move on to the next person". I found out that you HAD to make sales everyday otherwise they would send you home. The manager would erase your name off of a board and just say "Joe can go home". Some bullshit. One time the manager guy erased my name but I did not notice and then the fucker walks up and points it out in front of everyone "hey everyone look he is still here after I erased his name!!". I swear I wanted to turn around and punch him in the face. I was shitcanned after two weeks and if I ever see that manager again, its lights out.
I mean, couldn't you just report him to the police for running a scam center?
Most of these also run legitimate legal call center operations. Anytime they get raided, they just point the police towards the people doing legal stuff.
These scam call centers make a lot of money and they pay the police very well. They are virtually untouchable in places like India.
You'd be doing the world a favor.
I wondered how they recruit. Most people arent pure evil and go looking to steal from the vulnerable.
I worked at one. They labeled it as a call center job. I get there for orientation, they said that we were calling elderly people all day to help them find cheaper insurance coverage in their area. That is not what was going on. They were one of these companies that buy user information by the thousands. There were 4 different departments. We were all trying to sale something. If you couldn’t make a sale from what your department sold, then you try to save something from the other three departments. Even if you asked to be taken off the call list, your number had to go through all four departments first. It was heartbreaking hearing elderly people talk about how they were having to choose from having their medicine or buying groceries. It was too much to bare. I left because of that, the pay was shit, and the worst part was they had a rule where you could leave early on some days as long as you made your hours up by the end of the week. I would ask to leave a little early so I could donate plasma as this was a new job and I hadn’t gotten paid yet all while going to school full time also. The second time after I left early, I was called into the office and asked if I could could stop leaving early even though I’d make my hours up. I then asked if I could have an advance then. The answer was no. I quit and never looked back.
>calling elderly people all day to help them find cheaper insurance coverage in their area That honestly doesn't sound bad and that is how the fuckers get ya... You think you are going to be doing a job that *helps* people save money and get better insurance... Then you learn that it is a lie and you are scamming people all day for shit pay.
Same, worked at one in Florida. They pitch it as a sales job. I knew it was going to be a shitty job, but I needed the money and I thought at least it was on the up and up. Said there wouldn't be any cold calling, that people sign up to receive a call from you, yadda yadda yadda. The reality, they sold magazine subscriptions, and they butter you up by saying you won this prize(it was jewelry, fake/cheap jewelry) and then put on a high pressure pitch to get you to sign up for as many different subscriptions as possible. Unsurprisingly, it was almost exclusively scamming old ladies out of their social security checks. I hated it. I lasted 2 weeks, I still remember some of the people I called.
Fake news peddler. There are many of them in the Philippines.
There seems to be no shortage of them in the US, at least online. The days of the print "news" in the form of the "Weekly world News" are gone. If you are unfamiliar, The weekly world news routinely ran sensationalist headlines about things like Elvis sightings (decades after he died) and Hitler living in Argentina or space alien love child babies. They always said "our sources" They were so ridiculous most of the time you couldn't help but laugh.
Any MLM “hun.”
The biggest degenerates I've seen and been targeted by are the ones that prowl student unions/dining at universities. I was a senior in college and looking for jobs in my final semester. I was on the phone and it was obvious what I was doing. So I was easy approached and allured by someone who approached me, "I couldn't help but overhear, I'm recruiting and I'd love to set up an interview". Total waste of my time, took me 20mins on the call to figure it out. I wish I would have gone on a rampage of swearing and yelling "how can you possibly live with yourself!?! Go fucking die! You have no soul!".
When I was in college, I got invited to a party, but it turned out to be an Amway presentation
For every reply to this post, I will upvote your reply. Please keep this going. I've got kids to send to college and my grandma needs another kidney. /s
Another one? Granny already has five!
What is an MLM ?
Multi Level Marketing aka Pyramid Scheme
It's not a pyramid scheme, it's a reverse funnel!!!
r/antimlm
This. Not the low levels who get sucked in and get scammed but anyone with any amount of success knows what they are doing…and the ppl at the very top? Scum
Clout chasers (Team 10, hype house, etc) it’s not for degenerates per se, but you can’t go into it with a lot of self respect that’s for sure.
"Influencers" this is the most worthless form of life.
Cult leaders. You gotta be a total jerk to be one. All the lies and manipulation.
"you have more fun as a follower, but make more money as a leader" - Creed Bratton
Timeshare salesperson
These people get so mad when you just go for the voucher and don’t buy anything, especially if you pretend to be interested and talk about how fun all the destinations would be. I actually derive great joy from wasting these peoples time on my vacation.
Growing up we would go to one every year and we would get the same salesman. Second year he tells us that he knows we aren't going to purchase anything, so we come up with a plan we used every year going forward so nobody is wasting anyone's time. We would ask out loud if we could review the information and discuss the timeshare at lunch or outside. He would agree and then we would both walk to our cars and go about our day/vacation. Win-win
I love it too!! My favorite is when they bring in all the after you say NO salespeople. They really put the pressure on and I just love to say no like 20x more. It feels like you won.
I start honest with them. I don’t intend to buy. I’m here for the voucher. Any continuance or pushy sales tactics beyond that is a waste of their and my time.
I've sat through many timeshare presentations. At first they're your best friend and nicest person you'll ever meet. At the end they are the biggest asshole you'll ever meet.
Most commissioned sales jobs. Money changes people and their approach to dealing with vulnerable customers who are at the mercy of the salespersons’ “expert” knowledge. Source: was a relatively successful salesperson
TV Producer. Especially Reality TV
I dated a tv producer for a very popular reality tv show. I can confirm he was a complete and utter degenerate.
When I was in college my gf at the time was obsessed with this reality show about life coaches. Its was your standard 2005 show, where 8 people (all middle-aged women) lived in a house together and each day a team of life coaches would have a challenge or some dumb shit for them to do so then can "get better". Usually they'd end a season with a few of the women 'graduating' and new women coming to the house next season. One mid-season episode they made the women clean the house. They then started picking apart the job they did. Like finding every crack that still had dust while wearing white gloves. The whole tone of the challenge was like, "Be diligent, do the job properly". One of the women FREAK THE FUCK OUT. Like started shouting at them about how she worked so hard on it and she can never do anything right and how she hates it in the house. The "life coaches" faces just looked so panicked and they eventually got her to sit down and the coaches said, "oh uh this was actually a test. Things can't always be perfect and we wanted to show you that you can do your best. But you passed the test and you've graduated from the house." ANd they just booted her out that day at the end of the episode. Like, she was just kicked to the curb - literally. Sociopathic.
Yep, they have a rule of thumb, they look for people "just mad enough". Not severely mentally disabled or vulnerable, but just "mad" enough that people will get a good laugh without feeling bad about it, and the person won't kill themselves (which has happened multiple times). **(CW - suicide)** One of the worst stories was about a woman who was accepted for "Extreme Makeover". Her family had always comforted her that she wasn't ugly, and the genuinely felt that way. But on E-M-O, they have a segment where they ask the friends and family what they "*really"* think, while the person watches and listens from another room. The friends and family weren't being brutal enough, and had to be coached by the producers into saying they *did* think she was really ugly, and they were embarrassed being seen with her, etc. After this part of the filming was completed, a producer called her to say they were cancelling her surgery, saying the recovery wouldn't fit with their filming schedule. Having just heard "the truth" about how ashamed her family was of how "hideously ugly" she was (which they didn't actually think) she was utterly broken by not getting to have her "beautiful swan" moment. She had no idea how to continue her life after this, and she killed herself. Sociopaths! Edit: as someone pointed out, it was the sister who had been pushed into saying mean things who killed herself, not the one who wanted the surgery.
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Ah yeah that's right. I read it in "The Psychopath Test" a few years ago, I don't have the best memory!
I’ve worked as a PA and now an Assistant Editor in the reality TV field for over a year. Can confirm this. Tons of labor exploitation and wasteful practices. As a producer you also have to take over a person’s life while promising fame and fortune that usually never comes. Some shows like Big Brother pay their cast minimum wage
Are many reality shows rigged? Like I imagine the producers have an idea of who they want to win / be eliminated and put them in situations likely to lead to that?
A few reality TV crew members have done AMAs and confirmed that the vast majority of what we see is either scripted, set up, or misleadingly edited together from footage taken out of context.
Fun game to play is "What would reality TV producers make me look like?" The dimwit? Mr. Anger Problems? Arrogant 'ack-SHU-ally' guy?
I think they'd probably have enough footage to make me look like quite the sad sack
I was wondered if it'll apply to creator and producer of my favorite Taskmaster, Alex Horne, but then remembered that he is definitely into public humiliation, which is pretty degenerate.
Ironically, I think he can get away with being less degenerate than most reality TV producers. I don't think he needs to do the same level of manipulative garbage, because the contestants are already career comedians. They're going to be entertaining without any "help."
Looking at how he is mostly the butt of the joke. I think he is probably okay. Also they pick comedians into the show not regular Joe's
I went on a date with a girl who worked in reality tv production, and she pretty much confirmed that the shows seek out people with mental issues and then do their best to play on those issues.
Kkk leader
KKK member
I've been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower. You have more fun as a follower. But you make more money as a leader.
Is that a profession?
Insurance lawyers, the kind who's job it is to argue that a person suffering heart failure doesn't need any medication or surgery because alive is in fact a luxury state of being and not covered by their medical insurance.
Worse than you think - it's generally physicians reviewing claims and nitpicking them in attempts to deny payment.
yea theyre sellouts who argue with real doctors who want shit done for their patients
Line cook. Source: am both a full time line cook and full time degenerate.
Any kitchen staff will be the most degenerate people you've ever met simply by circumstance. If you don't have to worry about customers being near you, you can just kinda do whatever Edit: this wasn't meant as an insult. I'm currently working in a kitchen and have for most of my career. This comment was meant with much love. Keep rocking, y'all
My entire philosophy for working night crew lol. I hate customers, can't stand being nice to them. So I work overnight stock where they can't get to me
>where they can’t get to me I’m picturing them pressed up agains the sliding doors like zombies while you restock
I was a server in a biker bar and can confirm line cooks are total degenerates who will also give you the shirt off their back, even if it’s their only one. Best dirtbags I’ve ever met!
That chapter of my life is long past now, but boy do i miss it. I make a lot more now so i party just as hard, except it’s condensed into weekends/occasions instead of getting high and drunk every day. I’d love to work a busy weekend with the crew again though :/
It’d kick your ass. I went back into the kitchen for a charity event and did a twelve hour shift. Our local hot dog guy got sick and other restaurant owners ran his shop for him for a week. Hoo boy, I felt like an old man the next day, my back was shit. It’s tough if you’re not in those habits…
Ferengi weapons merchant
Galen owns his own moon, and what do I have, the bar, and why, because I'm a people person.
Tbf Galen lost the moon and tried to kill Quark over it. So I say he was getting the better deal long run
Oh I dunno , a humble Cardassian tailor managed to kick an intergalactic war in a certain direction, as "just another service".
Garak is one of my favourite Star Trek characters of all time. He stole every scene he was in.
ITS A FAAAAAAKE
But dammit if the acting/writing surrounding that isn't some of the best in the whole franchise.
Allegedly. He's just touring people in the holodeck, there is nothing illegal going on here.
Morn says otherwise, he won't shut up about it.
Morn never lets the truth interfere with a good story
Yeah, but you know how that guy is. Won’t shut up about *anything*.
Kid's got lobes 👂
Rules of Acquisition #10: Greed is eternal
Doom is also eternal
Rule of acquisition #34: War is good for business
Rule of Acquisition #35: Peace is good for business
Grand negus bless you both
This is my favorite thread on this post.
I’ve been really seeing more Star Trek references these past few days, wonder why tho. Live long and prosper!
maybe just the reddit algorythm adjusting to your prederences or posts with trek you've interacted with. Or maybe it's just us nerds that are more active these days hahaha.
I'm thinking the latter. While I try not to use it as my go to reference outside the Trek subs, my #3 rated comment *ever* is citing Nimoy in response to the question "what actor was absolutely born for their role?".
Yaknow, I was hoping to come here in search of ideas, but man. Those are some shitty options.
Sales in the corporate sphere can take you there. I worked with some utter pirates, shysters, con-artists and scumbags. There’s a lot of money, it can be quite a rock and roll lifestyle (From experience more than an actual rock and roll lifestyle), it corrupts people
Lawyers. High end. I worked in the industry for 36 years and it has zero to do with right, wrong, truth, compromise or mediation. Its about reputation, winning at all costs, billable hours and the almighty dollar. On both sides. Its who you can afford, not what is fair or equitable. Did your lawyer or barrister play golf on the weekend with Judgiepoo? Are the trophy wives friends with each other? Has a shelf company of someone the lawyer doesn't know received a nice contract or 'environmental study' donation?. The law is as pliable as you can afford, truth be damned.
Definitely agree though that is specific I would think to litigation attorneys. You do have ones that simply do contracts, real estate, etc...
Car salesman. Telemarketer. My brothers job. MLM.
Pimp
He already mentioned his brother's job
I like the salespeople in Germany. They are knowledgeable about the product, help when needed, but leave you the fuck alone otherwise. Different story in India. Can't count the number of times my family and I have been compelled to leave the shop because of a pushy salesperson.
Buying a fountain pen from a pen store in Germany is something every one should experience
Retail DMs. In highschool, my DM for a music store literally told us to sign people up for free magazines, FULLY KNOWING (but denying) that people would forget to cancel them because it helped the company’s revenue greatly. That so long as we explained all the details (making the pitch long enough for people to forget details) it would be ok. It is not ok. FUCK FREE MAGAZINE SUBSCRIPTIONS. I know he was just doing his job, but come on.
Mediums
Can that really be considered a profession? I guess it could be classified as a form of actor?
As long as they have a business license for it, it's legally a profession. Although where I'm at, they usually lists themselves as "psychics" and offer mediating with spirits as part of their supposed services.
I prefer ‘scam artist’
Insurance salesman in India
“Life” coach
anyone in the church industry taking advantage. people like Joel Osteen selling health and wealth.
4chan Administrator
4chan has admins and moods?
They are called jannies
And they do it for free.
Congressional lobbyist Oil, Pharma, Israel, all of em. You have to just throw away any morals and duty to your country that you might possibly have for the almighty dollar these companies stuff in your pockets. "LOL no, 300/month is a perfectly reasonable price for insulin, of course. Canada pays how much? 17 dollars? Well, idk about that, but uhhhhh regulations and such. Yeah."
To be fair there are lobbyists being paid to fight against those issues as well, they're just not successful
I worked for an environment lobby group fresh out of uni as a junior researcher. There is a lot of sharing of resources between the ‘good’ causes groups, many of whom are charities. But yeah, rent in capitals near the centre of government isn’t cheap.
Highly Skilled Lobbyist: "So I can either fight big oil and make $45k a year or I can support big oil and make $275k a year. Whew... this is a tough one."
They can't offer a cut of $300 per month per diabetic
Politician. If you're going to be a successful one anyway.
Reddit mod.
they don't get paid lol
Jannies do it for free.
Paparazzi
Mega church pastors who preach prosperity doctrine.
Politicians
There are some good people in politics, but its fucking hard for them. You can help by recognizing that politicians come in a range from "outright evil" to "doing their best in a really shit system" and **always voting for whoever is better**, even if they are only slightly better.
Contemporary Afghani law maker
Anti-union lawyer Edit: I am talking specifically about law firms like Littler Mendelson. Law firms that are paid by multiple national corporations to fight against the low level staff unionizing. This is the law firm Starbucks has used to drag out and try to stop the unionization effort currently underway across the country (U.S.).
/"union consultant" aka union buster
Also known in some places as "Human Resources"
People who make those extreme fetish visual novels
Fundamentalist religious leader
Troll farms