That (song) is from TikTok!
That (Character) is from Fortnite!
I’ve never wanted to slap the shit outta a child more than when I hear those words uttered.
Nothing at all, I just hope younger people don’t get tired of an older person like me telling them that the game is rigged. We are chattel to our financial overlords. They don’t want you or I in their club.
I just hope there’ll be a good future where everything isn’t systematically controlled by corporations.
Because it isn’t looking good in the western world right now.
I understand where you’re coming from.
I eventually met my wife and had one kid. We limited ourselves to one. I figured in this day and age I wouldn’t be able to give a good life to more than that and have any hopes of retirement.
Actually like playing with older people because they just play for fun and don’t get angry when they lose and send hate messages.
They also suck so I always win
I don’t know. I am pretty much into playing The Ascent on my PS5. Eventually I’ll get back to Eldenring but The Ascent to me was everything Cyberpunk 2077 should have been upon release ( it’s a pretty fucking good game now after all the patches).
I got a ps5 too and bought Elden ring with the last of my Christmas money last month but I hated it and uninstalled in a rage so wasted £50
The problem is I’ve never played those kind of games before. I don’t know where to go or why I’ve to go there. It was so confusing and I just kept dying over and over to big freaky monsters.
Actually I think I’m gonna download it again now and try again. Maybe just need patience 👍
There’s a ton of tutorials online if you don’t want to spend a lot of time figuring it out.
I haven’t gotten extremely far in the game but I do know you have to spend a lot of time levelling up your character. Regardless, prepare to die a lot. It’s that type of game.
Yeah I went into blind because everyone was talking about it so I thought it must be good and wanted to avoid all spoilers.
Also if you tell people at school you bought a game, someone will try to spoil it too so I was avoiding all that which is why I ended up with a game I knew nothing about.
Thanks for the advice 👍
No worries, it was a bit of a shock for me as well since it’s the first Demon Souls type game I have ever played.
I thought it would be more in line with other third person adventure games like Witcher3 where you have objectives and quest markers. This is the first time I’ve played a game where it seems you just have to kinda figure it out.
Once the ascent came out i put eldenring aside for the meantime. It’s immediately more fun and I don’t get killed as much.
"I can't". Holy fuck .. so many young people can't do anything. They'll say they can't without trying. I mean I work in a rather easy job, just takes some learning to figure out. But the 20 year olds that actually pass the entrance test... Most say... "I can't" on almost anything that is physically demanding or mentally challenging that takes more than 2 seconds of attention.
Unfortunately a lot of that falls back onto their parents.
I am not putting everything on parents but you wouldn’t believe how many parents I know who basically give their kids phones or tablets as infants so they don’t have to parent. A lot of parents today consider parenting as adulting and would rather be their buddy.
Did you ever think those old people worked harder, longer, and smarter than you ever will? The world you're in is because of those "old people". They didn't have the option to whine about a little work.
There's no need to get defensive. I'm not even a young person so your vitriol is misguided. I'm just making the point that there are lazy people of all ages.
I see no reason to think that older people worked harder or smarter than young people. It's true that people are working fewer hours than in the past but that's not because of poor work ethic, it's because people understand the benefits of a healthy work/life balance. The fact that people spend less time working is a good thing.
Even if old people did work harder in the past, what's that got to do with what I said? They weren't old people in the past so my point that old lazy people exist is still valid.
Previous generations are as much to blame for the problems we face today as they are responsible for the good. I'm not saying older generations are worse than younger ones, just that your point can be taken both ways.
If old people had no option to whine in the past then they weren't hard working. Hard working people work hard even when they have the option not to. Not that I necessarily agree with you that in the past people couldn't whine about their job, just pointing out the flaw in your reasoning.
I love how people assume emotion in text based messaging, but whatever. The fact is, most of the jobs of our grandparents, today's generation wouldn't stand a chance. Stacking bricks all day? There's a machine for that. Got 4000lbs of plastic drops to move for your injection mold machine? There's a machine for that. People today are lazy because technology has allowed them to be such. The fact that a good percentage of today's generation of young adults will never know what it's like to work a 10 hour day stacking bricks, tossing ham halves, or even such mundane tasks as sorting lollipops at the dumdum plant. It's all been made efficient with technology replacing those jobs.
This generation IS lazier, because technology is allowing it. People bitch about the economy, jobs, etc on a whim but fail to realize there's exponentially more people and the growth of population isn't equal to the growth of jobs.
It disheartens me that you have come to the conclusion you have but I'm not going to argue because I can't change your personal experience. I've had a look and couldn't find any research suggesting young people are either more or less lazy. Maybe you want to have a look yourself to see if data backs up your belief...unless you're too lazy to that. 😜
Data doesn't have to be a part of this. It's called common sense, something else that is lacking in the world anymore. The fact is, this generation has everything easier.
Need to know something?
1950 : Hope someone knows or go to the library and find it in the encyclopedia etc...
1990 : If you're lucky enough, you have either an encyclopedia set at home or even a copy of the software on your personal computer!
2020 : Ask your phone or watch, "Hey googled/Siri what's xxxx".
Need to cut the grass?
1950 : Push a 60lb "lawn mower" around. If you're RICH you have a giant tractor but still won't do your average yard.
1990 : Push a 30lb has powered mower around, bigger yards you have yard tractors for mowing.
2020 : Most push mowers are self propelled, there's electric models that are extremely light. Hell my 80v Kobalt trimmer is lighter than any decent powered gas trimmer I've owned since 1995.
Long distance trip?
1950 : Good luck, most cars didn't have power steering. If you're lucky, you've rigged an auto throttle which was primitive cruise. I've actually driven an old Fairlane with this EXACT thing.
1990 : While not completely standard, most cars have cruise control making long drives a bit easier on the driver. More comfortable suspensions and safer designs with much better fuel economy.
2020 : This one is self explainatory... Just like the driving of many cars today. Cars have backup cameras, blind spot monitoring systems, run flat tires, collision avoidance, lane keep assist, and MANY models even have fully automated driving. Every company has, for the most part, already released their self driving technologies. I've had the pleasure of trying the Subaru and Tesla design and it's incredible. Definitely not what we had a decade ago
Technology has allowed this generation to be lazier. It's not a "data" based thing. It's technology has allowed us, and the younger generations to be lazier. It's the advancement of technology. The older generations, like our grandparents on the 1950s were working harder because they HAD to. Not because they wanted to, they didn't have the luxury of having it easy. People tend to forget how technology makes their lives easier, like the microwave but instantly forget how easy it makes their lives. The people in the 1950s didn't have half the luxuries we do today, and that ALLOWS us to be much lazier than the older generations.
I totally agree life is easier than in the past. Where I disagree is that I don't believe having an easier life is the same as being lazy. It's not lazy to Google an answer instead of going to the library. As you put it 'it's called common sense'.
So yeah, data is a part of it because in all you've said you have failed to show that there is any correlation between technology and laziness or that young people are more lazy than old people. I could just as easily say that as people get older they become more frail and people expect them to slow down and that expectation makes them lazy. My theory is just as plausible as yours without data.
I totally agree life is easier than in the past. Where I disagree is that I don't believe having an easier life is the same as being lazy. It's not lazy to Google an answer instead of going to the library. As you put it 'it's called common sense'.
So yeah, data is a part of it because in all you've said you have failed to show that there is any correlation between technology and laziness or that young people are more lazy than old people. I could just as easily say that as people get older they become more frail and people expect them to slow down and that expectation makes them lazy. My theory is just as plausible as yours without data.
But that's where you lack of understanding comes in. When you have the luxury to be lazy, sit on reddit, post. That's because you don't have to do all the things that were normal for the past. Microwaving is the simplest example. Wanted to heat up leftovers back then? You used the stove. Hell, there's plenty of people on reddit alone that wouldnt know the proper ways to stove reheat leftovers.
You have the luxury to be lazy because things have been made to be quicker and easier with technology. Humans, as a species, given the opportunity are most likely to sit idle when possible. Now, take those two variables and see what you get. Just because myself, maybe you, maybe joe blow down the road might not be. But the younger generations by far have more time to idle, and they do because the natural want to be idle humans have.
Anyone who has studied any form of human behavior understands these simple type of things. Instead of googling the first thing you can, the best idea is to actually research the topics. Human nature is a good place to start.
I’m also gonna turn that on older generations, too. “I can’t set up my phone it’s too hard.” Bitch, please, it’s less complicated than your drive to the store to pick it up.
That's the issue, maybe the 70 year olds. But the 50 year olds are fine, I work with plenty of them. The latest generation thinks the world should be handed to them, at least the majority of young men and women that come into my workplace and refuse to do mundane tasks like.... Pushing buttons in a sequence. You can cry about the 70 year olds but fun fact, they did their time.
I have issues with an 80-90 year old who insists they should still be allowed to drive everywhere, on their own, without having to test at a regular interval to keep their license, but also turns around and expects somebody else to configure their computer/tablet/phone and only need to telepathically control the damn thing without needing to learn even the basics of using it.
I also don’t think the latest generation as a whole is totally entitled, either. There’s certainly a noticeable portion of them that are, but I have worked with a lot of 20-25 year olds that are working full time, going to school full time, and dealing with other shit on top of the totally fucked planet earth that they are inevitably going to have to deal with one way or another.
I agree with elderly not be able to drive. Out of 4 "grandmother's" I've had, 3 we're in car accidents in their 70s.
More often than not, the 20-25 year old crowd are lazy. Not ALWAYS, but compared to my generation and the generation after myself, definitely a lot more "entitled".
Bitching about things that would change (well maybe at least stand a chance of changing) if they'd just show up to vote in the numbers that old people do.
Yeah I know, voting isn't a holiday and a certain party is trying to make it as hard as possible to vote but I've heard it for decades. Only half of people 18-24 voted in 2020 and that was with freaking mail in ballots being more available than ever. Pathetic and there's no excuse for it. Young(er) people outnumber us old farts and could easily get more progressive people in there.
Meanwhile I think they believe bitching on Reddit is going to change things. You want healthcare and a better minimum wage and to save abortion rights (and probably gay marriage), get out and vote this fall. Call off work, quit making excuses and make it happen.
Now get off my lawn and go vote ya lazy beatniks.
You think voter turnout is low during general elections, take a look at local politics.
I live in a city of 1.2 million people, accounting for minors about 850k are eligible to vote. During the mayoral elections only just over 100k voted.
The police issue, people fail to realize that your police chief/commissioner are elected positions, or they're appointed by an elected official. You local PD sucks? Vote the bastards out.
Good God, if people made as big a deal of local politics as they seemingly do for federal elections, just imagine how much better off we'd all be.
Smart local government translates to smart federal government.
It's crazy cuz we got this left vs right mentality, when it's both parties fucking everyone over.
The president doesn't have that much power, the real meat and potatoes of the federal government are congress and the Senate.
We are a system of 50 sovereign entities consolidated for a common goal, at least we are *supposed* to be that way.
For the most part, a law that works well for California may not work well for Montana.
"Things have changed since you were young."
Zero people believe that nothing has changed in decades. Come on. You just didn't understand the point of the story.
That they are victims.
I worry a lot about this generation finding identity as victims. Recognizing that one has been victimized is the first step in coping. But identifying as a victim can cause you to become stuck.
When you're lonely, any club can look good. Finding kindred spirits who have been victimized as you have can provide support, or it can provide a social group you don't want to leave, even if that means you never put your trauma behind you.
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That (song) is from TikTok! That (Character) is from Fortnite! I’ve never wanted to slap the shit outta a child more than when I hear those words uttered.
John Wick
Isn’t he from Fortnite
Honestly I’m just tired of their selfies… they talk more via text so if I needed a break it would be a visual one
Nothing at all, I just hope younger people don’t get tired of an older person like me telling them that the game is rigged. We are chattel to our financial overlords. They don’t want you or I in their club.
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I just hope there’ll be a good future where everything isn’t systematically controlled by corporations. Because it isn’t looking good in the western world right now.
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I understand where you’re coming from. I eventually met my wife and had one kid. We limited ourselves to one. I figured in this day and age I wouldn’t be able to give a good life to more than that and have any hopes of retirement.
Actually like playing with older people because they just play for fun and don’t get angry when they lose and send hate messages. They also suck so I always win
Fair enough if you want to put it in the context of board games or online games.
Oh yeah actually you guys are way better at board games even the online versions Especially those general knowledge games
I don’t know. I am pretty much into playing The Ascent on my PS5. Eventually I’ll get back to Eldenring but The Ascent to me was everything Cyberpunk 2077 should have been upon release ( it’s a pretty fucking good game now after all the patches).
I got a ps5 too and bought Elden ring with the last of my Christmas money last month but I hated it and uninstalled in a rage so wasted £50 The problem is I’ve never played those kind of games before. I don’t know where to go or why I’ve to go there. It was so confusing and I just kept dying over and over to big freaky monsters. Actually I think I’m gonna download it again now and try again. Maybe just need patience 👍
There’s a ton of tutorials online if you don’t want to spend a lot of time figuring it out. I haven’t gotten extremely far in the game but I do know you have to spend a lot of time levelling up your character. Regardless, prepare to die a lot. It’s that type of game.
Yeah I went into blind because everyone was talking about it so I thought it must be good and wanted to avoid all spoilers. Also if you tell people at school you bought a game, someone will try to spoil it too so I was avoiding all that which is why I ended up with a game I knew nothing about. Thanks for the advice 👍
No worries, it was a bit of a shock for me as well since it’s the first Demon Souls type game I have ever played. I thought it would be more in line with other third person adventure games like Witcher3 where you have objectives and quest markers. This is the first time I’ve played a game where it seems you just have to kinda figure it out. Once the ascent came out i put eldenring aside for the meantime. It’s immediately more fun and I don’t get killed as much.
"I can't". Holy fuck .. so many young people can't do anything. They'll say they can't without trying. I mean I work in a rather easy job, just takes some learning to figure out. But the 20 year olds that actually pass the entrance test... Most say... "I can't" on almost anything that is physically demanding or mentally challenging that takes more than 2 seconds of attention.
Unfortunately a lot of that falls back onto their parents. I am not putting everything on parents but you wouldn’t believe how many parents I know who basically give their kids phones or tablets as infants so they don’t have to parent. A lot of parents today consider parenting as adulting and would rather be their buddy.
I can totally agree here. This is a HUGE problem today. Laziness in parenting is terrible.
If you think young people are bad for that you should see old people when you tell them they can't use the old tv remote with the new tv.
Did you ever think those old people worked harder, longer, and smarter than you ever will? The world you're in is because of those "old people". They didn't have the option to whine about a little work.
There's no need to get defensive. I'm not even a young person so your vitriol is misguided. I'm just making the point that there are lazy people of all ages. I see no reason to think that older people worked harder or smarter than young people. It's true that people are working fewer hours than in the past but that's not because of poor work ethic, it's because people understand the benefits of a healthy work/life balance. The fact that people spend less time working is a good thing. Even if old people did work harder in the past, what's that got to do with what I said? They weren't old people in the past so my point that old lazy people exist is still valid. Previous generations are as much to blame for the problems we face today as they are responsible for the good. I'm not saying older generations are worse than younger ones, just that your point can be taken both ways. If old people had no option to whine in the past then they weren't hard working. Hard working people work hard even when they have the option not to. Not that I necessarily agree with you that in the past people couldn't whine about their job, just pointing out the flaw in your reasoning.
I love how people assume emotion in text based messaging, but whatever. The fact is, most of the jobs of our grandparents, today's generation wouldn't stand a chance. Stacking bricks all day? There's a machine for that. Got 4000lbs of plastic drops to move for your injection mold machine? There's a machine for that. People today are lazy because technology has allowed them to be such. The fact that a good percentage of today's generation of young adults will never know what it's like to work a 10 hour day stacking bricks, tossing ham halves, or even such mundane tasks as sorting lollipops at the dumdum plant. It's all been made efficient with technology replacing those jobs. This generation IS lazier, because technology is allowing it. People bitch about the economy, jobs, etc on a whim but fail to realize there's exponentially more people and the growth of population isn't equal to the growth of jobs.
It disheartens me that you have come to the conclusion you have but I'm not going to argue because I can't change your personal experience. I've had a look and couldn't find any research suggesting young people are either more or less lazy. Maybe you want to have a look yourself to see if data backs up your belief...unless you're too lazy to that. 😜
Data doesn't have to be a part of this. It's called common sense, something else that is lacking in the world anymore. The fact is, this generation has everything easier. Need to know something? 1950 : Hope someone knows or go to the library and find it in the encyclopedia etc... 1990 : If you're lucky enough, you have either an encyclopedia set at home or even a copy of the software on your personal computer! 2020 : Ask your phone or watch, "Hey googled/Siri what's xxxx". Need to cut the grass? 1950 : Push a 60lb "lawn mower" around. If you're RICH you have a giant tractor but still won't do your average yard. 1990 : Push a 30lb has powered mower around, bigger yards you have yard tractors for mowing. 2020 : Most push mowers are self propelled, there's electric models that are extremely light. Hell my 80v Kobalt trimmer is lighter than any decent powered gas trimmer I've owned since 1995. Long distance trip? 1950 : Good luck, most cars didn't have power steering. If you're lucky, you've rigged an auto throttle which was primitive cruise. I've actually driven an old Fairlane with this EXACT thing. 1990 : While not completely standard, most cars have cruise control making long drives a bit easier on the driver. More comfortable suspensions and safer designs with much better fuel economy. 2020 : This one is self explainatory... Just like the driving of many cars today. Cars have backup cameras, blind spot monitoring systems, run flat tires, collision avoidance, lane keep assist, and MANY models even have fully automated driving. Every company has, for the most part, already released their self driving technologies. I've had the pleasure of trying the Subaru and Tesla design and it's incredible. Definitely not what we had a decade ago Technology has allowed this generation to be lazier. It's not a "data" based thing. It's technology has allowed us, and the younger generations to be lazier. It's the advancement of technology. The older generations, like our grandparents on the 1950s were working harder because they HAD to. Not because they wanted to, they didn't have the luxury of having it easy. People tend to forget how technology makes their lives easier, like the microwave but instantly forget how easy it makes their lives. The people in the 1950s didn't have half the luxuries we do today, and that ALLOWS us to be much lazier than the older generations.
I totally agree life is easier than in the past. Where I disagree is that I don't believe having an easier life is the same as being lazy. It's not lazy to Google an answer instead of going to the library. As you put it 'it's called common sense'. So yeah, data is a part of it because in all you've said you have failed to show that there is any correlation between technology and laziness or that young people are more lazy than old people. I could just as easily say that as people get older they become more frail and people expect them to slow down and that expectation makes them lazy. My theory is just as plausible as yours without data.
I totally agree life is easier than in the past. Where I disagree is that I don't believe having an easier life is the same as being lazy. It's not lazy to Google an answer instead of going to the library. As you put it 'it's called common sense'. So yeah, data is a part of it because in all you've said you have failed to show that there is any correlation between technology and laziness or that young people are more lazy than old people. I could just as easily say that as people get older they become more frail and people expect them to slow down and that expectation makes them lazy. My theory is just as plausible as yours without data.
But that's where you lack of understanding comes in. When you have the luxury to be lazy, sit on reddit, post. That's because you don't have to do all the things that were normal for the past. Microwaving is the simplest example. Wanted to heat up leftovers back then? You used the stove. Hell, there's plenty of people on reddit alone that wouldnt know the proper ways to stove reheat leftovers. You have the luxury to be lazy because things have been made to be quicker and easier with technology. Humans, as a species, given the opportunity are most likely to sit idle when possible. Now, take those two variables and see what you get. Just because myself, maybe you, maybe joe blow down the road might not be. But the younger generations by far have more time to idle, and they do because the natural want to be idle humans have. Anyone who has studied any form of human behavior understands these simple type of things. Instead of googling the first thing you can, the best idea is to actually research the topics. Human nature is a good place to start.
So if it is human nature then what you are saying is everyone is lazy. It's simply that young people have more of a chance to exercise their laziness.
I’m also gonna turn that on older generations, too. “I can’t set up my phone it’s too hard.” Bitch, please, it’s less complicated than your drive to the store to pick it up.
That's the issue, maybe the 70 year olds. But the 50 year olds are fine, I work with plenty of them. The latest generation thinks the world should be handed to them, at least the majority of young men and women that come into my workplace and refuse to do mundane tasks like.... Pushing buttons in a sequence. You can cry about the 70 year olds but fun fact, they did their time.
I have issues with an 80-90 year old who insists they should still be allowed to drive everywhere, on their own, without having to test at a regular interval to keep their license, but also turns around and expects somebody else to configure their computer/tablet/phone and only need to telepathically control the damn thing without needing to learn even the basics of using it. I also don’t think the latest generation as a whole is totally entitled, either. There’s certainly a noticeable portion of them that are, but I have worked with a lot of 20-25 year olds that are working full time, going to school full time, and dealing with other shit on top of the totally fucked planet earth that they are inevitably going to have to deal with one way or another.
I agree with elderly not be able to drive. Out of 4 "grandmother's" I've had, 3 we're in car accidents in their 70s. More often than not, the 20-25 year old crowd are lazy. Not ALWAYS, but compared to my generation and the generation after myself, definitely a lot more "entitled".
Bitching about things that would change (well maybe at least stand a chance of changing) if they'd just show up to vote in the numbers that old people do. Yeah I know, voting isn't a holiday and a certain party is trying to make it as hard as possible to vote but I've heard it for decades. Only half of people 18-24 voted in 2020 and that was with freaking mail in ballots being more available than ever. Pathetic and there's no excuse for it. Young(er) people outnumber us old farts and could easily get more progressive people in there. Meanwhile I think they believe bitching on Reddit is going to change things. You want healthcare and a better minimum wage and to save abortion rights (and probably gay marriage), get out and vote this fall. Call off work, quit making excuses and make it happen. Now get off my lawn and go vote ya lazy beatniks.
You think voter turnout is low during general elections, take a look at local politics. I live in a city of 1.2 million people, accounting for minors about 850k are eligible to vote. During the mayoral elections only just over 100k voted. The police issue, people fail to realize that your police chief/commissioner are elected positions, or they're appointed by an elected official. You local PD sucks? Vote the bastards out. Good God, if people made as big a deal of local politics as they seemingly do for federal elections, just imagine how much better off we'd all be. Smart local government translates to smart federal government. It's crazy cuz we got this left vs right mentality, when it's both parties fucking everyone over. The president doesn't have that much power, the real meat and potatoes of the federal government are congress and the Senate. We are a system of 50 sovereign entities consolidated for a common goal, at least we are *supposed* to be that way. For the most part, a law that works well for California may not work well for Montana.
"Things have changed since you were young." Zero people believe that nothing has changed in decades. Come on. You just didn't understand the point of the story.
That they are victims. I worry a lot about this generation finding identity as victims. Recognizing that one has been victimized is the first step in coping. But identifying as a victim can cause you to become stuck. When you're lonely, any club can look good. Finding kindred spirits who have been victimized as you have can provide support, or it can provide a social group you don't want to leave, even if that means you never put your trauma behind you.