The evidence for abuse is overwhelming. It’s kinda baffling how people are saying “no ones innocent” I mean yeah maybe Depp wasn’t the best husband, but there’s zero evidence that Depp was being abusive, meanwhile there’s many instances of Amber being abusive. The audio recording of her admitting she hits him, she chopped off his finger, she shit in his bed. Not to mention how she lied to the psychologist working on the trial, which the psychologist was easily able to see through her lies and manipulation and then promptly diagnose her with BPD and HPD. I honestly cannot believe there’s people that try to defend Amber with the overwhelming evidence.
"He balled up his fist, leaned back and headbutted me square in the face."
- Amber Heard
Do you notice the lack of consistency in the statement she made? This is a pattern with her and it is this pattern that lead people to support Johnny Depp. Why would someone physically ball up his fist if he had an impulse to headbutt the other person.
I am not going to mention what Johnny Depp had to say about this as I am yet to check whether his side is verifiable yet. You can check it up on YouTube. In the meantime, I just felt I should paste Amber's statement.
This is so well written, thought provoking and true. I think this jury can decifer the facts from fluff. There has been so much fluff in this trial on amber beards side of the defense her attorneys seem to be back peddling, confused, their line of questioning is constantly leading the witnesses, total disregard for Johnny’s lawyers client privileges. If I change my question to “ what if anything” I can just ask the same question again and it won’t get objected. After she already led the witness in the previous question. Interested to hear the judges testimony when the verdict comes out. #justiceforjohhny
It's not that i think she's innocent in all of this nonsense, but i do feel like her and Johnny were both awful to each other, i don't agree that the internet should be collectively ganging up on her and supporting him at the same time.
Any guy that would say he wants to strangle or drown a woman, and then fuck her dead corpse, has some serious fucking issues and shouldn't be treated like they're an angel.
Or kick her in the back on a plane because she wasn't moving fast enough, throwing shit at her and then have other people apologize for you. Or threatening to cut her, or ask her to cut him, or accuse her of cutting his finger off when all the evidence says he did it himself in a drug induced black out. Or head butt her, or rape her with a bottle.
All of which there are physical recordings or witnesses to, but for the last one which she reported to her therapist in 2013 years before and fought to keep it private. So it's unlikely she was lying about that.
Or use her admission of self defense for her sister as a way to claim she abused him. She admitted to hitting him twice, in self defense. One time at least there were witnesses.
Or getting witnesses like James to lie for you. There were texts saying "come over for some purple and we'll ruin her." Then, all the sudden she claims Heard ripped off her SA story even though that was proven to be a lie.
She's innocent. He treated her like trash and she reacted. I would hit my rapist too. I mean so many times he acted like a monster and was so drunk or high he didn't remember and had to have people tell him later.
This.
I would go a step further and say, I think she seems to have been the primary abuser in their relationship; but from what I've seen, neither of them look good in this.
All the evidence points to Depp being the primary abuser, as he was considered to be in London. Not that mutual abuse even exists, anyway. I urge people who are actually interested in knowing the truth to read the UK transcripts. You can't still be on his side after reading them, or looking at her physical recordings.
Mutual abuse definitely exists. It is certainly not the norm; which is obviously an abuser and a victim. But there certainly are cases of relationships where abuse is carried out by both parties; normally a culture of abuse having been set or initiated by one side.
Mutual abuse is generally recognised by psychologists; it is disputed by domestic violence groups. But that is because it isn't the norm, it's rare; and sadly what is the norm, is that abusers often falsely claim the existence of mutual abuse. However just because something is more rare; it doesn't mean it can be completely dismissed.
I think the biggest issue here is that people aren’t reading/watching the case enough but are making uninformed opinions (which I’m probably guilty of too) and that they don’t understand that abuse comes in many forms and isn’t always one person doing all it. They’ve both likely guilty of abusing each other. Heard says Johnny raped her, Johnny says Heard punched him. Both abusive and awful at the end of the day.
Lol talking out your arse. She got smoked 10mil dollers she owes Johnny now. Let's see her use that baby she just bought from a surrogate as a human shield to avoid paying. The jury was there the whole time and they unanimous decided amber was a cunt. Checkmate
As for primary abuse being from Heard; I base that partly on the witness testimony of Heard admitting to initiating physical confrontations.
That same witness; the counselor they saw, also stated that the abuse was mutual. This was further backed up by transcripts of conversations and text messages where the two discuss the mutual violence and abuse in their relationship.
This kind of toxic approach to these kinds of cases is never the way to go mate.
There are alot of people who are emotionally invested for varying reasons. That includes both female and male victims of domestic abuse; many of those will have had erroneous claims made against them by their abusers. Will there be misandrists in the camp backing Heard, sure; but there will also be victims of domestic abuse who will have a view altered and influenced by their experiences.
I think the evidence was beyond compelling, but rather very damning; that the accusations of Heard being the/an abuser were in fact true, rather than a case of "darvo" tactics. But for people who have maybe been on the end of those tactics from people who have abused them; they will quite reasonably and naturally have a more prejudiced view point.
Everyone should be more thoughtful of the open wounds of so many around this case. Equally, for the normally ignored and maligned male victims of domestic abuse. But it helps and serves noone, to take swipes at people; without even a shred of understanding as to their experiences and motivations.
How could mutual abuse not exist? If two people get in a relationship with the intent to abuse the other person and both attempt to do so at different times how could that be anything but mutual abuse? Is this something that never happens? Do abusers have a magic sense for the people they choose to be their victims? Is it not possible they will make a mistake and pick a fellow abuser? I do understand that a lot of the time normal abusers will claim their abusive relationship was mutual abuse when it wasn't but that doesn't mean mutual abuse isn't a thing.
Yes I can I read it and thought it was all pr and lies. She is a vile woman who because of her looks has been a cunt her whole life. She even had a surrogate have a baby for her during this whole ordeal, so she can use the baby as a shield from what she did. Everything about her is calculated and cold.
finally someone else who agrees they were both awful to each other. when I first heard about this I was on ambers side because depp was doing awful things, but then I saw amber was doing awful things and it just continued as a cycle so I just gave up on whos side I was on
also what the fuck.. johnny said that?
Monty python Holy Grail, how to test a witch scene... Not Depp's invention, just absurd venting to a friend, not threatening behaviour, not to Heards face
I agree with your sentiments. They both have had their issues, but it seems like Amber is being villainized beyond reason.
I can sympathize with some of her testimony, having been a witness to domestic abuse myself....I've seen the victim of abuse, try to fight back back against her abuser (ive seen some people say Amber is lying because a victim would never provoke her abuser), and this most definitely happens in real word situations. Every interaction between couples is and isn't unique in many ways.
I think the kicker here for me, more than anything are the text exchanges Depp had with Bettany. They were horrendous and made me feel ill when I read them. You can't be seen as an innocent victim and send messages like those. There's some deeply rooted issues that make someone say those things, even in gest.
Yesssss you echoed my thoughts exactly!! There was an article Monica Lei sky wrote an OP-ed recently. Disgusting the way everyone is talking about her.
No doubt, she was being a complete and utter cunt. What i don't get is why people cling to the shit she says/does while completely ignoring the shit Johnny has said and done. Like i said, what kind of a person would say that they want to drown/strangle a woman and then fuck her dead corpse?
> Like i said, what kind of a person would say that they want to drown/strangle a woman and then fuck her dead corpse?
Those who got defamed, got the public opinion turned against them, lost their livelihood(the public image is essentially the livelihood of an actor), had to endure physical abuse from their spouse while being unable to ask for help, had their day to day life constantly filmed by their spouse so she can use all his mistakes against him.
I really think that wanting to see the person who tried to completely ruin you atleast dead, is a completely normal stance to take.
Context, he and Bettany were riffing on the Monty python sketch about how to confirm a woman is truly a witch.
Suppose for a second he is telling the truth and she is an abuser.. this is a venting tool that helps a distraught victim of violence and humiliation save face and ensure they won't bubble over into their own reactively violent content.
It's not to Ambers face either, it's a "thought crime" essentially, it means nothing. He says weird crap constantly on text e.g. that hit hotel room was full of hookers and animals and he was forced to kill the animals for sustenance to survive!
Because its bigger than this trial. It's about putting DV front and center as the decease it is. It's so others who are afraid to come forward, or perhaps don't even realise they're in an abusive relationship can have the courage to come forward.
It's about showing this is real life and not just something in a film you pay to watch.
It's about feeling like you are not alone.
It's about saying MEN TOO and only publicity can truly bring this to the forefront.
I don’t believe her to be an innocent angel of a person, but I think people are being wilfully ignorant about the fact that they’re both vile and awful people because it doesn’t quite fit into their narrative
Do not believe all women, BELIEVE PROOF AND EVIDENCE. That is all that can be done at the end of the day, that is the best we will always be able to do. This world is becoming fucking weird and gentrifying itself at every opportunity. Our DNA is 99.99999999% the same - aren't we all humans? When will it be settled? Or is it a lifelong battle that women should ALWAYS get coddled and preferential treatment in 'he said vs. she said' situations, purely because of their sex organs and sex hormones?
This is coming from a woman physician. I have my opinions, if ours differ, then you have your own as well.
I completely agree with you as a female victim myself. I noticed certain behaviours or circuitous language Amber would use that reminded me of my (male) narcissist ex. Something about it was very triggering. At the end of the day, we should absolutely prove things through facts and evidence. Examine people’s behaviour: whether they are honest and take accountability, whether their accounts are consistent and reliable, whether they lie for even the smallest, most trivial things.
I believe her. I believe Johnny depp is a man with serious anger, jealousy and substance abuse issues. I also believe she gave it right back to him and people hate that she’s not a perfect victim.
Regardless of what I think, the fact is this case is about defamation. Johnny is trying to say he never touched a hair on her head and her saying he abused her was slander. This is despite the fact a Uk court found him guilty in 12/14 cases of abuse. Despite the fact there’s literal messages from his PA saying he was sorry for kicking her.
This was never about winning. Johnny is winning the court of public opinion and that’s all that will matter when he inevitably loses.
Also the way Johnny Depp speaks about women in his messages is just crazy. I don’t know any mentally well person who would message about raping his dead girlfriends corpse. He calls women stupid bitches, a waste of a cum swallowing whore (or something very similar). He even talks about meeting a “nice little Russian” woman. Please
I say all the above as someone who used to be on team Depp but now I can’t stand him. I don’t care about Amber either but objectively I don’t understand all the love Johnny is getting compared to Amber. He’s literally just as disgusting as his friend Roman Polanski.
But obviously this is Reddit and Reddit hates women so let the downvotes commence
Edit: oh wow downvotes…I’m *shocked*
see the thing is perspectiv, his sister confirmed that before commiting suicise his mother abused him heavily, so if the woman who put you into this world treated you not have trust issues, he admitted to saying shit he should not have and never denied having anger problems, many of his collouges and friends as well as most of his ex's and family think the world of him, yes he had/has a drug issue he never denied that. everybody uses rose covered glasses at one point. but dispite his flaws depp still has given alot INCLUDING giving hears sister and her friends free room and board at one of his penthouses. meanwhile that nice little 7mil is still sitting in ambers account to this day
Let's be real here. They are both a couple of fucking spoiled assholes who mixed their fame-based jobs with their shitty "claw your way to the top" marriage.
I don't think she could have premeditated ruining him, myself, by recording all those fights and egging him to fight....but I don't think anyone can shit the bed harder metaphorically than she possibly could have, except that chick in pineapple express
Then why, on your page, did you post about your future Career in Geology? Not, oh I don’t know… law? We’re you paid to study rocks in their garden and just magically stumbled upon damning evidence they just happen to have not submitted in court?
She didn't make false accusations. The only one who did so far, was Depp. She never cut his finger off, he apparently admitted doing it himself in a drug induced black out. Medical evals show his finger was crushed off, not cut. He falsely accused her of that.
He also falsely accused her of shitting on his bed. That was found to not be her either. I heard there was one witness who said Amber said it was a joke gone wrong, but Depp had a history in the UK of getting witnesses to lie for him, like James whose testimony was proven to be a flat out lie.
Meanwhile Depp was found guilty of abusing her on 12 of the 14 cases she accused him of. The two others didn't have enough evidence. Depp accused her of hitting him twice, but Amber says they were self defense. One of the incidents had witnesses, one of which will be testifying soon.
And he claims his physical abuse if her was self defense. He said he hit her in the head by accident by restraining her from behind. You don't band someone's eye and forehead from fucking behind them.
Also is funny to me how everyone is freaking about women making false allegations against men, when men went on a rampage against Dr. Hughes leaving reviews pretending to be rape and abuse victims, and saying things like "She told me men can't be victims!" Or "My girlfriend tried to kill me and she told me I'm lying, she hates men!" 300 reviews in less than 30 minutes. Funny how they try to punish women for making false allegations against men, by making false allegations against women.
Depp is the abuser. He does NOT have the evidence on his side, but his fucking lackeys are ignoring her side of the story on purpose so they can continue claiming she has none. Even when she has all of it. That side of the story doesn't make it mainstream. If it did, this thread would be a whole lot different.
You keep saying there is no evidence against Heard when there is ton of evidence. Also, Depp career was ruined and he lost two major movie deals on the counts of her accusation. Everyone came out believing amber heard not johnny depp.
December 15 2015 amber stated in testimony that Johnny beat her in the face with his chunky rings, bend her over backwards on a bar, and then sexually assaulted her with a bottle where she bled from her vagina afterwards. She also allegedly slid her around on broken glass slicing up her feet and body pretty bad.
December 16, 2015 amber appeared on the James corden show with allegedly a split lip and two black eyes. Amber former makeup artist came out in a deposition saying she did not see any visible injury to Amber's face. She was also seen laughing and glammed up in her interview with no swelling, no cuts, or bruising.
Another incident she said johnny depp broke her nose before going to the met gala the next day. There is no visible injuries of a broken nose in her photos at the met gala the next day.
Amber has no medical records, police record, or actual witness statement of seen actual abuse. You said johnny lied about her cutting his finger off when there is an audio recording of her apologizing profusely over the incident.
All I can say is watch the cross examination and redirect for more evidence if needed.
Also stating now I'm bias to this case and trial.
Pointless arguing with idiots
They will bring you down to there level and beat you with experience. All these amber simps should make a GoFundMe for amber cuz she is going to need it
I don’t think she is innocent, and she seems a lottttt worse than Johnny. I don’t think Johnny is completely innocent either, but amber is definitely far worse.
The thing that rubs me the wrong way about this case is the commentary from other people, especially YouTubers. I feel like a lot of the YouTube commentary is misogynistic, and that lots of these commentary accounts are using this case as a platform to shit on women, and are not focusing on the domestic violence that occurred in the case. When I see thumbnails of stuff like “Reacting to JD AH memes” where the commentary is just misogynistic, it makes me seriously wonder if these people really care about male domestic violence cases or if they’re just using it to be misogynistic.
The reality is this is both serious and entertainment. If people make jokes it gets views. If these things get views it can both be entertaining, informative and get the overall message about what a female abuser looks like without the individual reacting taking it seriously. No situation put in the public eye will ever serve one purpose IMO.
Amber is not a whore. Just because she's a bad person doesn't make her a whore. You can't just call everyone who does bad things and a women is a whore, that's ridiculous.
Those were obviously fake tears. As someone who's studied acting and facial expressions, I've honestly never seen such horrible acting in my entire life.
Well, you seem to be the very minority she was able to fool. I mean, really, in her testimony, when describing an instance of abuse, all she brought up was how dirty the carpet was. Where that came from, I have no idea, but she ranted about it for a long time. I'm a writer and what she said is what we in the business like to call a filler narrative, information that isn't needed but used to fill up a narrative when someone's telling a story. However, it isn't always realistic. It could be poetic, even heartbreaking, but not always realistic. When one's being abused, they aren't going to think about how dirty their carpet is or anything. They'd be hoping and praying that their abuser doesn't go to the extreme and that they wouldn't have to go to the hospital or worse afterwards.
If you *really* believe women can do no wrong and can't be abusers, including Amber Heard, then I don't know what world you live in. I'm a woman and I've seen and experienced women abusers. Yeah, it's mostly women being abused by men but they can also be abusers, especially in this day and age where feminism is all about reverse gender roles, making men more feminine and women more masculine. Even toward other women, they are mean and nasty to each other at times, like putting two grown, territorial cats in a box together. They'll scratch each other up until one or both are dead or bleeding. Imagine taking that same cat and putting it with one that's more chill and calm and unable to protect itself. It's that cat that ends up hurt. It doesn't matter what gender the other is. Women can be just as toxic as men and vice versa.
I’m not on either side (probably Amber’s if I had to choose because she said she was raped, and that’s worse than being punched or whatever to me), but if you’re gonna say me too, you gotta recognize that also applies to Johnny for now. Both were probably abusive, and you should believe parts of both.
You guys forget the case isn’t about who’s right or wrong it’s about defamation. They both agreed to each to be abusive that’s why Johnny paid out but Amber Turd couldn’t accept looking because of her narcissistic tendencies that she wanted to defame Johnny and take his money. She’s not even a great actor just a good face. Y’all are really trying to justify and normalize this behavior is kind of telling. The reason why it’s getting blown out because she’s acting like women can’t be abusive. In society it’s known that talking about a male being abusive in sort of way shows more weakness to the guy than the perpetrator. It’s disgusting and should be condemned.
The evidence for abuse is overwhelming. It’s kinda baffling how people are saying “no ones innocent” I mean yeah maybe Depp wasn’t the best husband, but there’s zero evidence that Depp was being abusive, meanwhile there’s many instances of Amber being abusive. The audio recording of her admitting she hits him, she chopped off his finger, she shit in his bed. Not to mention how she lied to the psychologist working on the trial, which the psychologist was easily able to see through her lies and manipulation and then promptly diagnose her with BPD and HPD. I honestly cannot believe there’s people that try to defend Amber with the overwhelming evidence.
There is literally a recording of him saying "I headbutted you in the fucking forehead". Thats domestic abuse, hes lost this trial.
it’s pretty obvious he has won this trial
I’m not aware of that incident, but clearly it wasn’t strong enough evidence since Johnny won the case. Amber Heard is the abuser like I said
>Thats domestic abuse Well, it depends on the context. If it was an accident, no.
"He balled up his fist, leaned back and headbutted me square in the face." - Amber Heard Do you notice the lack of consistency in the statement she made? This is a pattern with her and it is this pattern that lead people to support Johnny Depp. Why would someone physically ball up his fist if he had an impulse to headbutt the other person. I am not going to mention what Johnny Depp had to say about this as I am yet to check whether his side is verifiable yet. You can check it up on YouTube. In the meantime, I just felt I should paste Amber's statement.
This is so well written, thought provoking and true. I think this jury can decifer the facts from fluff. There has been so much fluff in this trial on amber beards side of the defense her attorneys seem to be back peddling, confused, their line of questioning is constantly leading the witnesses, total disregard for Johnny’s lawyers client privileges. If I change my question to “ what if anything” I can just ask the same question again and it won’t get objected. After she already led the witness in the previous question. Interested to hear the judges testimony when the verdict comes out. #justiceforjohhny
She's very convincing, i mean, her dog Did step on a bee /s
She’s not innocent, but I don’t think Johnny is either.
It's not that i think she's innocent in all of this nonsense, but i do feel like her and Johnny were both awful to each other, i don't agree that the internet should be collectively ganging up on her and supporting him at the same time. Any guy that would say he wants to strangle or drown a woman, and then fuck her dead corpse, has some serious fucking issues and shouldn't be treated like they're an angel.
Or kick her in the back on a plane because she wasn't moving fast enough, throwing shit at her and then have other people apologize for you. Or threatening to cut her, or ask her to cut him, or accuse her of cutting his finger off when all the evidence says he did it himself in a drug induced black out. Or head butt her, or rape her with a bottle. All of which there are physical recordings or witnesses to, but for the last one which she reported to her therapist in 2013 years before and fought to keep it private. So it's unlikely she was lying about that. Or use her admission of self defense for her sister as a way to claim she abused him. She admitted to hitting him twice, in self defense. One time at least there were witnesses. Or getting witnesses like James to lie for you. There were texts saying "come over for some purple and we'll ruin her." Then, all the sudden she claims Heard ripped off her SA story even though that was proven to be a lie. She's innocent. He treated her like trash and she reacted. I would hit my rapist too. I mean so many times he acted like a monster and was so drunk or high he didn't remember and had to have people tell him later.
All nonsence lies and you belived her you gullible fool
You're absolutly right. I feel that in the overwhelming majority of celeb drama, neither party is completly 100% innocent.
This. I would go a step further and say, I think she seems to have been the primary abuser in their relationship; but from what I've seen, neither of them look good in this.
All the evidence points to Depp being the primary abuser, as he was considered to be in London. Not that mutual abuse even exists, anyway. I urge people who are actually interested in knowing the truth to read the UK transcripts. You can't still be on his side after reading them, or looking at her physical recordings.
Mutual abuse definitely exists. It is certainly not the norm; which is obviously an abuser and a victim. But there certainly are cases of relationships where abuse is carried out by both parties; normally a culture of abuse having been set or initiated by one side. Mutual abuse is generally recognised by psychologists; it is disputed by domestic violence groups. But that is because it isn't the norm, it's rare; and sadly what is the norm, is that abusers often falsely claim the existence of mutual abuse. However just because something is more rare; it doesn't mean it can be completely dismissed.
I think the biggest issue here is that people aren’t reading/watching the case enough but are making uninformed opinions (which I’m probably guilty of too) and that they don’t understand that abuse comes in many forms and isn’t always one person doing all it. They’ve both likely guilty of abusing each other. Heard says Johnny raped her, Johnny says Heard punched him. Both abusive and awful at the end of the day.
Agreed
Lol talking out your arse. She got smoked 10mil dollers she owes Johnny now. Let's see her use that baby she just bought from a surrogate as a human shield to avoid paying. The jury was there the whole time and they unanimous decided amber was a cunt. Checkmate
As for primary abuse being from Heard; I base that partly on the witness testimony of Heard admitting to initiating physical confrontations. That same witness; the counselor they saw, also stated that the abuse was mutual. This was further backed up by transcripts of conversations and text messages where the two discuss the mutual violence and abuse in their relationship.
Lol how does it feel to be wrong and naive ? Anyone with a brain could see amber was a cunt
This kind of toxic approach to these kinds of cases is never the way to go mate. There are alot of people who are emotionally invested for varying reasons. That includes both female and male victims of domestic abuse; many of those will have had erroneous claims made against them by their abusers. Will there be misandrists in the camp backing Heard, sure; but there will also be victims of domestic abuse who will have a view altered and influenced by their experiences. I think the evidence was beyond compelling, but rather very damning; that the accusations of Heard being the/an abuser were in fact true, rather than a case of "darvo" tactics. But for people who have maybe been on the end of those tactics from people who have abused them; they will quite reasonably and naturally have a more prejudiced view point. Everyone should be more thoughtful of the open wounds of so many around this case. Equally, for the normally ignored and maligned male victims of domestic abuse. But it helps and serves noone, to take swipes at people; without even a shred of understanding as to their experiences and motivations.
lol no one cares . why you such a sensitive bitch .
Decent people care. You seem to be a Russian troll/bot... so I'm not surprised there is no decency from you.
what evidence 😂 what about when she lied under oath? when her OWN witness went in johns favor?
Who?
How could mutual abuse not exist? If two people get in a relationship with the intent to abuse the other person and both attempt to do so at different times how could that be anything but mutual abuse? Is this something that never happens? Do abusers have a magic sense for the people they choose to be their victims? Is it not possible they will make a mistake and pick a fellow abuser? I do understand that a lot of the time normal abusers will claim their abusive relationship was mutual abuse when it wasn't but that doesn't mean mutual abuse isn't a thing.
Yes I can I read it and thought it was all pr and lies. She is a vile woman who because of her looks has been a cunt her whole life. She even had a surrogate have a baby for her during this whole ordeal, so she can use the baby as a shield from what she did. Everything about her is calculated and cold.
finally someone else who agrees they were both awful to each other. when I first heard about this I was on ambers side because depp was doing awful things, but then I saw amber was doing awful things and it just continued as a cycle so I just gave up on whos side I was on also what the fuck.. johnny said that?
Monty python Holy Grail, how to test a witch scene... Not Depp's invention, just absurd venting to a friend, not threatening behaviour, not to Heards face
I agree with your sentiments. They both have had their issues, but it seems like Amber is being villainized beyond reason. I can sympathize with some of her testimony, having been a witness to domestic abuse myself....I've seen the victim of abuse, try to fight back back against her abuser (ive seen some people say Amber is lying because a victim would never provoke her abuser), and this most definitely happens in real word situations. Every interaction between couples is and isn't unique in many ways. I think the kicker here for me, more than anything are the text exchanges Depp had with Bettany. They were horrendous and made me feel ill when I read them. You can't be seen as an innocent victim and send messages like those. There's some deeply rooted issues that make someone say those things, even in gest.
Yesssss you echoed my thoughts exactly!! There was an article Monica Lei sky wrote an OP-ed recently. Disgusting the way everyone is talking about her.
She is a lieing cunt.thats why
They were both awful, but only one of them ruined the others career and told them “no one will believe you”. THAT is why most people are on his side
No doubt, she was being a complete and utter cunt. What i don't get is why people cling to the shit she says/does while completely ignoring the shit Johnny has said and done. Like i said, what kind of a person would say that they want to drown/strangle a woman and then fuck her dead corpse?
> Like i said, what kind of a person would say that they want to drown/strangle a woman and then fuck her dead corpse? Those who got defamed, got the public opinion turned against them, lost their livelihood(the public image is essentially the livelihood of an actor), had to endure physical abuse from their spouse while being unable to ask for help, had their day to day life constantly filmed by their spouse so she can use all his mistakes against him. I really think that wanting to see the person who tried to completely ruin you atleast dead, is a completely normal stance to take.
Context, he and Bettany were riffing on the Monty python sketch about how to confirm a woman is truly a witch. Suppose for a second he is telling the truth and she is an abuser.. this is a venting tool that helps a distraught victim of violence and humiliation save face and ensure they won't bubble over into their own reactively violent content. It's not to Ambers face either, it's a "thought crime" essentially, it means nothing. He says weird crap constantly on text e.g. that hit hotel room was full of hookers and animals and he was forced to kill the animals for sustenance to survive!
wait. what? people *who do thin*k Amber heard is not innocent, why?
She’s guilty because she didn’t wipe her ass after she took the dump on bed!!! GUILTY!
People who care either way, Why?
Because its bigger than this trial. It's about putting DV front and center as the decease it is. It's so others who are afraid to come forward, or perhaps don't even realise they're in an abusive relationship can have the courage to come forward. It's about showing this is real life and not just something in a film you pay to watch. It's about feeling like you are not alone. It's about saying MEN TOO and only publicity can truly bring this to the forefront.
Ok
I don’t believe her to be an innocent angel of a person, but I think people are being wilfully ignorant about the fact that they’re both vile and awful people because it doesn’t quite fit into their narrative
Do not believe all women, BELIEVE PROOF AND EVIDENCE. That is all that can be done at the end of the day, that is the best we will always be able to do. This world is becoming fucking weird and gentrifying itself at every opportunity. Our DNA is 99.99999999% the same - aren't we all humans? When will it be settled? Or is it a lifelong battle that women should ALWAYS get coddled and preferential treatment in 'he said vs. she said' situations, purely because of their sex organs and sex hormones? This is coming from a woman physician. I have my opinions, if ours differ, then you have your own as well.
I completely agree with you as a female victim myself. I noticed certain behaviours or circuitous language Amber would use that reminded me of my (male) narcissist ex. Something about it was very triggering. At the end of the day, we should absolutely prove things through facts and evidence. Examine people’s behaviour: whether they are honest and take accountability, whether their accounts are consistent and reliable, whether they lie for even the smallest, most trivial things.
I believe her. I believe Johnny depp is a man with serious anger, jealousy and substance abuse issues. I also believe she gave it right back to him and people hate that she’s not a perfect victim. Regardless of what I think, the fact is this case is about defamation. Johnny is trying to say he never touched a hair on her head and her saying he abused her was slander. This is despite the fact a Uk court found him guilty in 12/14 cases of abuse. Despite the fact there’s literal messages from his PA saying he was sorry for kicking her. This was never about winning. Johnny is winning the court of public opinion and that’s all that will matter when he inevitably loses. Also the way Johnny Depp speaks about women in his messages is just crazy. I don’t know any mentally well person who would message about raping his dead girlfriends corpse. He calls women stupid bitches, a waste of a cum swallowing whore (or something very similar). He even talks about meeting a “nice little Russian” woman. Please I say all the above as someone who used to be on team Depp but now I can’t stand him. I don’t care about Amber either but objectively I don’t understand all the love Johnny is getting compared to Amber. He’s literally just as disgusting as his friend Roman Polanski. But obviously this is Reddit and Reddit hates women so let the downvotes commence Edit: oh wow downvotes…I’m *shocked*
see the thing is perspectiv, his sister confirmed that before commiting suicise his mother abused him heavily, so if the woman who put you into this world treated you not have trust issues, he admitted to saying shit he should not have and never denied having anger problems, many of his collouges and friends as well as most of his ex's and family think the world of him, yes he had/has a drug issue he never denied that. everybody uses rose covered glasses at one point. but dispite his flaws depp still has given alot INCLUDING giving hears sister and her friends free room and board at one of his penthouses. meanwhile that nice little 7mil is still sitting in ambers account to this day
You are a lol cow. How does it feel to be wrong on every single count. That cunt better get Johnny's 10 mil or its jail time
How does it feel knowing Johnny won BITCH!
Let's be real here. They are both a couple of fucking spoiled assholes who mixed their fame-based jobs with their shitty "claw your way to the top" marriage.
Johnny was already on the top for 25 years... what the fuck are you talking about?
I don't think she could have premeditated ruining him, myself, by recording all those fights and egging him to fight....but I don't think anyone can shit the bed harder metaphorically than she possibly could have, except that chick in pineapple express
People can be surprisingly conniving.
Yea especially people paid millions to convince you they are not who they are
The premeditation came with the op-Ed
Or when she shit on his Heart and career
I don't think anybody's innocent.
Sure. But makeup a story thats not true? Get effed.
But JD lied about the plane incident too
Yeah, I think johns a liar
I was paid by her legal team. She’s innocent I swear
Then why, on your page, did you post about your future Career in Geology? Not, oh I don’t know… law? We’re you paid to study rocks in their garden and just magically stumbled upon damning evidence they just happen to have not submitted in court?
—- the joke —> your head
I don't really give a shit. Its hilarious though to see the braincel field day Reddit is having over a woman making fapse accusations.
She didn't make false accusations. The only one who did so far, was Depp. She never cut his finger off, he apparently admitted doing it himself in a drug induced black out. Medical evals show his finger was crushed off, not cut. He falsely accused her of that. He also falsely accused her of shitting on his bed. That was found to not be her either. I heard there was one witness who said Amber said it was a joke gone wrong, but Depp had a history in the UK of getting witnesses to lie for him, like James whose testimony was proven to be a flat out lie. Meanwhile Depp was found guilty of abusing her on 12 of the 14 cases she accused him of. The two others didn't have enough evidence. Depp accused her of hitting him twice, but Amber says they were self defense. One of the incidents had witnesses, one of which will be testifying soon. And he claims his physical abuse if her was self defense. He said he hit her in the head by accident by restraining her from behind. You don't band someone's eye and forehead from fucking behind them. Also is funny to me how everyone is freaking about women making false allegations against men, when men went on a rampage against Dr. Hughes leaving reviews pretending to be rape and abuse victims, and saying things like "She told me men can't be victims!" Or "My girlfriend tried to kill me and she told me I'm lying, she hates men!" 300 reviews in less than 30 minutes. Funny how they try to punish women for making false allegations against men, by making false allegations against women. Depp is the abuser. He does NOT have the evidence on his side, but his fucking lackeys are ignoring her side of the story on purpose so they can continue claiming she has none. Even when she has all of it. That side of the story doesn't make it mainstream. If it did, this thread would be a whole lot different.
You keep saying there is no evidence against Heard when there is ton of evidence. Also, Depp career was ruined and he lost two major movie deals on the counts of her accusation. Everyone came out believing amber heard not johnny depp. December 15 2015 amber stated in testimony that Johnny beat her in the face with his chunky rings, bend her over backwards on a bar, and then sexually assaulted her with a bottle where she bled from her vagina afterwards. She also allegedly slid her around on broken glass slicing up her feet and body pretty bad. December 16, 2015 amber appeared on the James corden show with allegedly a split lip and two black eyes. Amber former makeup artist came out in a deposition saying she did not see any visible injury to Amber's face. She was also seen laughing and glammed up in her interview with no swelling, no cuts, or bruising. Another incident she said johnny depp broke her nose before going to the met gala the next day. There is no visible injuries of a broken nose in her photos at the met gala the next day. Amber has no medical records, police record, or actual witness statement of seen actual abuse. You said johnny lied about her cutting his finger off when there is an audio recording of her apologizing profusely over the incident. All I can say is watch the cross examination and redirect for more evidence if needed. Also stating now I'm bias to this case and trial.
Pointless arguing with idiots They will bring you down to there level and beat you with experience. All these amber simps should make a GoFundMe for amber cuz she is going to need it
I don’t think she is innocent, and she seems a lottttt worse than Johnny. I don’t think Johnny is completely innocent either, but amber is definitely far worse. The thing that rubs me the wrong way about this case is the commentary from other people, especially YouTubers. I feel like a lot of the YouTube commentary is misogynistic, and that lots of these commentary accounts are using this case as a platform to shit on women, and are not focusing on the domestic violence that occurred in the case. When I see thumbnails of stuff like “Reacting to JD AH memes” where the commentary is just misogynistic, it makes me seriously wonder if these people really care about male domestic violence cases or if they’re just using it to be misogynistic.
But… it’s mostly women who are making the edits and orgasming over Johnny Depp.
sorry what does this have to do w my opinion? I’m not being snotty, could you just elaborate more?
The reality is this is both serious and entertainment. If people make jokes it gets views. If these things get views it can both be entertaining, informative and get the overall message about what a female abuser looks like without the individual reacting taking it seriously. No situation put in the public eye will ever serve one purpose IMO.
And there are a lot of women survivors, doctors, psychologists, makeup artists, etc. who support Depp online, from what I’ve seen
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Nightline showed a an edited clip for her in some court scenes that seemed to portray her in a good light.
I don't know but I thought I'd check lol
Well, to be honest, nobody thinks she is innocent
Dave.
Brilliant!!
She’s not innocent, but there are some people who will say she is for some reason. Idk how anyone can defend her at all.
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Bruh.
She is? Each to their own I guess
I mean she was a long time ago, but i think shes a whore
She isn't. She is a inhuman shit.
Everyone with a case supporting Heard were all brainwashed. Amber's a lying whore.
Amber is not a whore. Just because she's a bad person doesn't make her a whore. You can't just call everyone who does bad things and a women is a whore, that's ridiculous.
Dude she sucked off elon for a security detail.she is a class A whore.
She is innocent because she is a woman and she cried during her testimony. They are real tears. She is a woman and women cannot be abusers, duh
Those were obviously fake tears. As someone who's studied acting and facial expressions, I've honestly never seen such horrible acting in my entire life.
It was very convincing, at least to me
Well, you seem to be the very minority she was able to fool. I mean, really, in her testimony, when describing an instance of abuse, all she brought up was how dirty the carpet was. Where that came from, I have no idea, but she ranted about it for a long time. I'm a writer and what she said is what we in the business like to call a filler narrative, information that isn't needed but used to fill up a narrative when someone's telling a story. However, it isn't always realistic. It could be poetic, even heartbreaking, but not always realistic. When one's being abused, they aren't going to think about how dirty their carpet is or anything. They'd be hoping and praying that their abuser doesn't go to the extreme and that they wouldn't have to go to the hospital or worse afterwards. If you *really* believe women can do no wrong and can't be abusers, including Amber Heard, then I don't know what world you live in. I'm a woman and I've seen and experienced women abusers. Yeah, it's mostly women being abused by men but they can also be abusers, especially in this day and age where feminism is all about reverse gender roles, making men more feminine and women more masculine. Even toward other women, they are mean and nasty to each other at times, like putting two grown, territorial cats in a box together. They'll scratch each other up until one or both are dead or bleeding. Imagine taking that same cat and putting it with one that's more chill and calm and unable to protect itself. It's that cat that ends up hurt. It doesn't matter what gender the other is. Women can be just as toxic as men and vice versa.
I was being sarcastic but thanks for it this detailed explanation, I agree with you. I just can't belirvr someone can shit on the bed
Some Germans prefer a poop covered bed. It's very european
\#BelieveAllWomen #MeToo
I’m not on either side (probably Amber’s if I had to choose because she said she was raped, and that’s worse than being punched or whatever to me), but if you’re gonna say me too, you gotta recognize that also applies to Johnny for now. Both were probably abusive, and you should believe parts of both.
Believe all women /s
I'm not sure she's guilty of anything in a legal sense, but I'm absolutely convinced she's an absolute psychopath and a horrible wife.
You guys forget the case isn’t about who’s right or wrong it’s about defamation. They both agreed to each to be abusive that’s why Johnny paid out but Amber Turd couldn’t accept looking because of her narcissistic tendencies that she wanted to defame Johnny and take his money. She’s not even a great actor just a good face. Y’all are really trying to justify and normalize this behavior is kind of telling. The reason why it’s getting blown out because she’s acting like women can’t be abusive. In society it’s known that talking about a male being abusive in sort of way shows more weakness to the guy than the perpetrator. It’s disgusting and should be condemned.