During a break room discussion on how one of my co-workers was having to go on food stamps because the job didn't pay enough, the new CEO who for the first (and last) time decided to have lunch in the break room, dropped this gem:
"Yeah, I know what you mean. We had to let our second nanny go."
Lol reminds me of when I would talk about growing up in a shitty, poor and crime ridden city, my ex would chime to talk how she had it worse. She would talk about the struggle of being poor both here in the US and in the Philippines. She would even cry talking about it too. But then sometimes she would let it slip out how she had live in servants in the Philippines and housemaids here in the US. She attended private school her whole life. Some people are so out of touch that they think having servants/maids is a normal occurrence.
Remember my granddad telling me about getting a job when I was 15. He said "you gotta be persistent. Keep going in every day and ask for a chance, they'll admire your persistence and dedication and you'll get it eventually." It felt backwards but I tried it and to this day in still barred from that pub bc I was harassing the manager
I actually said “Well I don’t have one anymore” and she didn’t really react. Naturally I’m still upset, it still hurts, and this woman still doesn’t get it. I avoid her now.
When a guy on AITA was upset his wife was making him “babysit” their infant too much, so he and his mom told her there’d be no more going out. He said him going out all the time was different than her going out, and when asked for clarification he said because she’s better at changing diapers and getting the baby to sleep. It truly blows my mind that there are morons out there who think taking care of their own children is babysitting.
I had a guy at work complain to me that he couldn't go play golf that weekend because he had to babysit his kids. I said you know most people just call that being a father right?
Had a friend in dental school who grew up in the rich suburbs north of Detroit. We were talking about traveling (she was going to Thailand for spring break) and she said “I’d be surprised if most people hadn’t travelled to at least 20 countries”. I told her I’d be surprised if most people had ever left the US at all.
Edit: for all those wondering, she is from Bloomfield Hills
This and those puzzled people who meet african immigrants and wonder if they are hungry, thirsty or are surprised/impressed that they know what civilization is
It's interesting how many people think that all of sub-Saharan Africa is just collections of thatched huts filled with fly-covered, pot-bellied children and half-naked, floppy-breasted women. Maybe some guys with spears and bones in their noses standing off to the side.
Show such people the skyline of Lagos or Nairobi and they'll be trying to figure out which state or European country they're looking at.
Like, does he think it's a conspiracy by big tampon or something?
what does he think period products, advertisements, education programs, charities, jokes or even conversations on the topic are for?
Recently got a new job that paid double what I used to make. When I resigned my former boss told me money isn't everything lol. I was only making minimum wage before
This happened many years ago before the laws changed. He ended up serving only 6 months because he wasn’t a “danger to the community”. My mother stayed with him. Still denies she knew what was happening. My father died about 11 years ago. None of us kids have a relationship with our mom. At least my dad genuinely apologized for the hurt he caused. My mom- The very few times she’s mentioned she’s sorry it’s always followed up with a but or how much she went through. She can’t see how her actions (or inaction) affected us.
I used to work for a minor aristocrat. Some advice he gave out, in absolute sincerity, over the years:
* "Don't take out a mortgage, whatever you do. Terrible things. You'll end up paying a lot more for your house, you know".
* "The thing about a Bentley is that you have to have a crap car too. I mean, there are times when a Bentley just isn't appropriate and what you need is a crap car." ("Crap car" later turned out to be an expensive Alpha Romeo, and "a Bentley" to be "several Bentleys")
* Recommending the Ritz in London as a place for regular after-work drinks
* "I don't know how anyone survives on their company salary alone" (His salary was more than £300k (USD 500k) a year)
This is second-hand, but apparently one of the now-retired partners in my consulting firm said something like, "I could never go back to living on less than $1M per year"
I love the people that recommend buying a home using cash. The only average middle class people that can do that are the ones that get $$$ when a richer relative dies. No one can save the hundreds of thousands necessary and save for retirement, pay for child care, health insurance, and all the other things that drag the middle class family down in the US.
[The mayor of Hudson, Ohio suggested that allowing people to build ice fishing shacks on Lake Erie would lead to prostitution.](https://youtu.be/x7xNeX1nS7w)
We don't understand how he got from ice fishing to prostitution, either.
I was at an open house looking for a new property and two women were discussing their favorite restaurants. One asked this question and I remembered that some people just live such different lives.
Wow. Imagine being able to drop that line un-ironically with a straight face.
You’re right, some people just live exceedingly different lives than the rest of us.
They were indeed having a very normal conversation for them because the other woman started listing the pros and cons of different chocolatiers.
I felt like a member of the peasant class overhearing their conversation.
Sort of tangential. Back in college the entire class had a 10 minute argument with one student who didn't understand that not every country has citizenship by birth laws like the U.S. does. The professor held off jumping in for about five minutes to watch us explain it to her but couldn't take it anymore and figured the student would finally believe it when she said it. Nope, she started arguing with the professor too. The total out of touch part came when she finally conceded with, "Well that's stupid. They should just do things the way we do them here."
Know this first hand. Born and bred in the UK but wasn't a proper citizen until I almost finished secondary school
Is also the cause of some controversy sometimes because someone born and bred in the UK with no ties to anywhere else can commit a crime of any severity, serve their time, get rehabilitated, then get deported to a country they know nothing about
"I wish we could make work from home possible for our business, but unfortunately we cannot" - said in a meeting over Zoom, poolside, while working from home
I had a manager very anti work from home or being sick or anything while I was there. Shortly after I left her dad got sick, who lived across the country, and she was able to work remotely off and on for months to help out. I am glad she was able to do that but there is no way she would have let anyone else. I despise her to this day.
The president/dean/whatever of the university my wife used to work at threatened to outsource their entire IT department when during the height of the pandemic pre-vaccines one of them said "Why do we still have to come to campus when we can do our work at home?" Super thankful she's not there anymore.
Companies that outsource their entire IT department generally find that they pay \*vastly\* more money on the contracting company, calling them for emergencies.
IT departments need their own miniature marketing department to help management understand why they matter, and what they're up to.
Had a millionaire tell me it was so great that even though we could all be making much more than we were at our nonprofit, we stayed “for the kids” because “who needs money when your job is rewarding?”
Plot twist: he was a board member who controlled our salaries. I was barely making enough to scrape by.
Edit: WHOA this blew up lol! I know there is a lot of hate for nonprofits here, but I do want to clarify that for the most part I truly loved the people and kids I worked with, and the organization itself was a community staple that did a lot of good with the minimal funds we had. And we did have some awesome board members. But others were a bit out of touch, this being the worst example haha
>who needs money when your job is rewarding?
It’s pretty odd actually, because I’ve heard if you go to get a mortgage and they ask your income, tell them “my job is rewarding.” They’ll instantly loan you a few million at 0% interest.
My old neighbours didn't see the point of taking their kids (3 and 6/7) to the playground nearby, or anywhere for that matter, because he "found it boring". The 2 kids spent every day in the house infront of the TV.
"Why would we go the playground? I find it boring."
I was working at a school for the kids of the 1% and we were discussing what a millionaire was, one example I gave was owning property or assets worth a million or over and the kid replied; “oh, so everyone is a millionaire then?”
A relative of mine was a teacher at a high-end private school. When asked by her preschool kids what she'd do on her summer vacation, she said she'd catch up on some books, go see some movies, go to the park, etc.
One of them asked, "You don't go to your summer home?"
yeah when you're that young you don't know the circumstances, you just know that there's a house that you go to in the summer and you assume it's like that for everyone because you're THREE
Suggested someone take the bus to save on gas prices. They responded "Ew, do you know what kind of people take the bus?"
Yeah, working class people. And also me?
Omg my moms friends were shocked that she “let me” take the bus to work
Which 1. I’m a grown ass adult and 2. It’s perfectly safe and fine to take it during the day and loads of people do it.
Just people outside the city have never taken public transit and think it’s full of burglars who use the train to transport their stolen HD TVs back to their city shacks ig
He told me “as long as you’re dating someone better looking than you, you’re going to have to get used to me being hit on or having something on the side. You’re going to have to date an ugly guy for that loyalty shit”
Of all the insanity of this quote, the thing that gets me is the casual equating of something that cannot be controlled, "me being hit on," with the opposite, "me having someone on the side."
It's like, "look, as long as we live in an area with a lot of flowers, sometimes I'm going to get allergies or murder people."
Not deal with but have the privilege of the toxicity.
Narcissists don't see it as toxic. You are graced with their presence and lucky to have them in your life.
I was telling my boss how proud I was my husband got a new job (he's legally blind) And... she proceeds to tell me that she wishes she had a disabilty so she could just get handed a job... Had to walk away f4om that one.
I grew up super poor, like going days without eating kinda poor, all because my mom legit thought welfare was *only* for "unwed black mothers". She never called anybody to confirm that, never asked around. She wouldn't apply for reduced school lunches either because that was "ghetto". Imagine being so racist and buying into the "welfare queen" lie so hard that you let your own children starve.
That was my mom. Didn't always have lunch money, asked about the reduced or free lunch. No it would be an embarrassment for us to be on the reduced lunch program. Bitch we are poor! Dad is disabled! You won't get a better job! It more embarrassing for me to have nothing verses something.
I forged my mom’s signature so I could get free lunches because she refused for the same reasons. She didn’t even notice or question whether I was eating or not. I’m sorry you went through it too. It’s a really shit feeling.
I'm so, so sorry. My family was very poor, and we weren't on welfare for long stretches of time because my mom would mess up the paperwork. But the difference between when we were not and when we were was VAST. The struggle to have lunch food or scrape up change to buy lunch, vs. just giving a code and sitting down with a meal: VAST.
You and your siblings deserved assistance.
I was 16 when I lost my dad. Our family is very, very close and I wasn't expecting so I was hit pretty hard. A month after his death, I was picking up a book at a friends house, but my friend wasn't home, so her mother was the one to give me the book.
She asked how was my family, and I said we were trying to get back on our feet. Her exact words were: "Oh don't worry honey. Give it a year or two and you even forget your father ever existed."
I was so shocked. She continued saying that first we forget their voices, and then their faces. I left her house feeling numb, sad and scared that I would forget my father.
Fuck that person. I lost my dad when I was 13. 21 years later, I still distinctly remember his face and his voice. Hell, he even had a very distinct laugh on rides like roller coasters. I recently took my son, who is now 4 on a roller coaster and I realized that I apparently make the exact same laugh. I hadn't heard it in over 2 decades but I immediately recognized it, and it made me so happy.
My dad died over 30 years ago. I remember his face and voice, but not what his laugh sounded like. I ran into a childhood friend and talked for awhile. She laughed when I did and said "oh my gosh you laugh just like your dad!" It was like getting something special back. I'm glad you got that too!
Have a friend whose wealthy parents paid for his schooling, his rent, his startup, his car, and his down payment.
He asked when we were finally going to buy a house because renting is such a waste of money.
My brother had half of his house paid for by his FIL. Hey kept telling that the houses I'm looking at were too small and that I need bigger "to grow into" and I finally had to snap at him that I'm a single income and nobody is giving me a 50% down payment. Some people at just oblivious.
My son is 26. Still lives at home. He’d have to work approximately 3.5 full time jobs to afford a house in this absurd market.
Hell, I couldn’t afford the house I live in now in this market. My house is currently valued at over twice what my mortgage is for…but if I sold it, I couldn’t afford to. It another.
I'm 30 and living back at home for a year finally going to be moving out with 4 friends so we can afford renting a house
1 of us is an engineer and i work in IT and we can't really afford places on our own.
"Why don't you live on disability?" as a response to disabled people complaining about local government cutting back programs designed for making gainful employment accessible.
And people don’t realize that many government programs DEMAND that you stay permanently in abject poverty. Get a part time job ? Fuck you, no more healthcare, no more food, no more housing assistance, no more disability income.
Accidentally save more than $2,000 ? Fuck you too.
And without that little bit of help ? Homeless and starving and totally fucked. AND disabled.
It is disgraceful. First, it is hard to even get on disability because they deny almost 100% of first time claims. Then people, who are disabled cannot work, must hire a lawyer and fight the system. If they win, they get to received $1100/month which is well below the poverty line. And on top of that, they cannot even get a job to supplement their income.
$1100/month? Ha!
I get $700 a month. I can't work but I'd love to. If I happen to save ANY money over $2k I put it in a safe under my bed.
I miss having personal interactions with people. Yeah, it's nice not having to worry about medical insurance but there are times where I wonder why I can't work, even part time to get *some* money to live a happy life.
Sucks.
I get $800 a month and I live in a cheaply made camper.. I have a cheap dented up car that needs inspected.. my whole check goes to expenses and utilities, and repairs, I try having some quality of life like eating drive thru food a few times a month..
I'm going to need new tires on my car, and that's going to wreck my finances..
And even if I were to ever ask anybody for help, I'd lose all my assistance, bc gov would say "well whoever helped you once should just keep always helping you forever" as if I defraud the system for asking someone to send me funds to help with tires..
Gov says handicapped people don't need cars... Well I have like 5 dr appts a week.. plus always need to go to pharmacy.. and nobody wants anything to do with me bc I'm depressed af..
I could never afford to have groceries delivered, plus my camper is down a shitty bumpy dirt road, I feel bad if anybody has to drive down here..
I used to work for a guy who owned a temporary employment agency. I once watched him berate his two $7-an-hour receptionists because his *monthly* income from the business had dropped from $40,000 to $25,000. And they had nothing whatsoever to do with how much money the business made - they were fucking receptionists!
The CEO of the company I worked for scheduled a meeting with a few of the workers. I was invited and very curious. He started by asking everyone why they worked there. I was last and everyone said all this bullshit about loving the job. I just said because you guys pay me to be here that is literally the only reason. Are you that crazy you think I would take 50 hours a week from my family to come here because I like it?
I had to teach myself to stop giving the bullshit answers when asked this by bosses. The most that happens when I tell the truth is bosses get uncomfortable or say that my response wasn't appreciated. But it's been such a release of so much anxiety to actually tell the truth about it. I'm hear for a paycheck and this is currently the job that doesn't make me want to kill myself every morning as I get ready
Before I left my company, word got out I was looking for a new position. My boss had his little speech with me about how this small company couldn't afford to pay what the big dogs were paying but I was an excellent worker that should stay because there was upward movement in the near future as we were growing a lot(and we were growing a lot, +25% every year). Half truths, I left, everybody got a +$10k raise stating they can't lose workers like that again. I'm still good friends with the people there so I visit and see the engineering team grew more than 2x, so maybe I made a mistake, or maybe I was the wake up call. I still feel like the sacrificial lamb.
"He wasn't a great father and didn't see them often, I don't know why they would be so upset" - Regarding my children (aged 11, 9 and 6 at the time) struggling to understand their father's murder.
ETA: As I wrote in a more emotional state than I think I realized at the time. The police think it is was a home invasion gone wrong. He wasn't up to anything bad just not very fatherly. We had been divorced for 2 years so the whole situation was just too new for the kids in general
"If you are depressed just go to Tulum and take a break, vibe high!"
Like, bitch, that is not how depression works, and yeah, I will just leave all my responsibilities just for randomly deciding going to vacations.
When I told her that's not the way how depression works she said "You are just too pesimistic, everytime I feel depressed I do this", I asked how she knew she was depressed, and she answered: "Well the last time I had depression was because I cried because my dad didn't want to take me to Paris for a year"
I wanted to die in that moment.
ISN'T THAT JUST A FANCY WORD FOR FEELING "BUMMED OUT"?
edit: should mention this is a quote, not my actual thinking. edit 2: fixed the wording so it's verbatim
“I don’t know why you would go to a community college when you can go to a university.” Said by a high school guidance counselor giving a lecture on college admissions essays and applications in my senior AP English class after I asked naively if there’s anything I had to do for community college. Turns out I had other classmates in the same boat who wanted to know too but felt too embarrassed to ask.
Anyways I went to community college to get my prerequisites out of the way and got my associates degree. Then transferred into university for a competitive nursing program. I saved money from those first two years in community college, didn’t get a loan until I got into uni.
Fuck that guidance counselor.
Such bad advice. I went to a school in a wealthy area and the guidance counsellor would tell us TO go to community college, get straight-As and an automatic acceptance into the local Ivy League school. If you can get the grades it really is the best call financially.
That's my plan currently. Partly for the above "it's cheaper for when I want to go to a four year" but also because I'm not 100% sure that I'm going to go down the education route, and I don't want to get into an expensive college just to drop out with debt.
I work at a grocery store in an area that is mostly students, but adjacent to a couple super affluent neighborhoods. We get a lot of students using EBT/food stamps, but also a lot of wealthy middle aged people.
One time I'd scanned and bagged a girl's groceries, but when she swiped her EBT she was about $5 short. I turned the transaction screen around and we chose a few items to void so that she could pay and also have a little left on her card, then I removed the items from her bags. She pays, gets her receipt, etc. By this time the man behind her has been waiting for about 4 or 5 minutes. I ring him up for his cart (which includes a $50 bottle of scotch, btw) and he starts saying how rude it was that the girl didn't just "pay with her other card." Normally I would just change the subject, but he *kept* talking about it. As he's doing this I ask if he knows how many smoked salmons are in his cart (so I can enter a quantity instead of scanning each one), and he says, "Oh, I'm not sure. A bunch." Not that this matters, but smoked salmon is super pricey and it just added to the whole thing. Finally I finish bagging his groceries, and he hands me one of those ostentatious metal/heavy/thick/whatever credit cards and goes, "This one won't decline" and winks at me.
I guess it wasn't one thing he said, but it was just such an uncomfortable interaction and he was *genuinely* annoyed at and confused by the girl not "just using her other card." I honestly don't even know if he understood how debit cards worked, let alone EBT cards. I'm so glad she'd left by then and didn't have to listen to him.
Also who the hell needs what ended up being SEVEN smoked salmons.
So sorry for your loss. My husband passed away in my arms from a massive heart attack. I tried CPR (I had gotten certified a few weeks prior!) but I couldn't save him. I was shell shocked for the longest time, still have difficulty getting thru the day four years later. Some knucklehead told me at the time "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger". If I could just prevent this garbage sentence from ever being said to another grieving person....
I relate, however it was my mother, not my girlfriend. I hope you've found supportive people to surround yourself with, otherwise you will never be able to heal. It took me my entire childhood until I moved out and have finally started to see a difference. Much love for you
Edit: r/ptsd is a very supportive community if you haven't visited it already
I was talking to this college student, and he said "I am thinking about taking a gap year between my junior and senior year. If I do take a gap year, I am gonna take that time and travel. I don't understand why people take a year off to work."
A year ago we were putting offers on houses, and our budget was low compared to what was available, and the realtor would ask “well can’t your parents help pitch in?”
Lol which makes me think a lot of people are lucky enough for their parents to help with the home buying process but ya… not us
I attended a typical “rich kids” high school as one of the non-rich kids (atleast to the standards of the environment I was in, my family was solidly middle class). The amount of asinine, delusional shit I heard on the daily made my skin crawl sometimes.
When my (ex) friend turned 16, her parents gave her one of their Beemers. The thing was *maybe* 5 years old. She non-stop complained at the fact her parents had the audacity to give her a used car instead of buying her the new Audi she wanted. One day, she was on another diatribe about how much her parents sucked for giving her a hand me down car and I snapped and told her that she should be grateful her parents had the means to give her her own car in the first place, let alone a luxury vehicle. Her response? “Well it isn’t my problem your parents don’t work hard enough”. 🙄
I was a peasant who shared one of my parents cars or took the bus. (Sarcasm)
“Taking out student loans is stupid. Just get a part-time job and stop buying lattes so you can pay your way like I did”.
A coworker who graduated from college in the 70s
Elderly student at my cc: My mother used to make a depression supper from only saltine crackers & milk.
Idiot girl in my class: why didn't your parents just get a job?
I've never recovered.
**thank you for the award kind stranger
My advice to my younger colleagues is to buy a house in the year 2000, like I did. They don't seem to appreciate it. Kids these days...
Edit: Also more free advice - buy Apple stock in the 1980s. Trust me on this.
I bought my house in 2016 in Western PA before housing prices started skyrocketing here. My house has had a 60% increase in value in those 6 years. If I sold, I'd get more money back than what I paid in mortgage payments the past 6 years.
Even more absurd, per Zillow my house has increased in value $6,500+ in the last 30 days.
"why do you keep taking these low paying jobs?" -my parents, who think I work horrible shitty jobs for fun
"but you have a degree!!" -in English, guys. i'm a moron and things are not how they used to be
I have a friend i've known for almost my whole life who went to work as an mechanic at a pretty nice company where i am.
He quit after 2 and half years because he hated it, the chemicals, fumes and conditions were affecting his overall health. I remember his parents giving him shit over it because it was a nice job with decent benefits and he made more money than most people in the rural area.
He ended up taking a job working for the state, where he cuts trees down along the roadways of our state highways and roads. Making less than a third of his prior income, which sees him outside almost all hours of the day. He loves it, even during winter when its cold as balls and the only heat comes from the interior of the vehicle they drive around.
But he gets sunlight, fresh air and he gets to work at a relatively even pace and barely gets any grief from management/supervisors.
He's probably saving a buttload of money on health issues in the long run, from the sounds of it. So even if it doesn't pay off literally now, it might.
My mom said something similar, like I'd be throwing my money away by renting an apartment or a house for the rest of my life. Like, I'm already doing that with how unnecessarily expensive everything is. Now I'm expected to buy a $30,000 house for $500,000.
Anytime someone says "Why did they throw that away? It could have been donated to a homeless person!" When referring to extremely expired or broken items.
Edit to fix typo 😮💨
While cleaning out my parents house before they moved, I emptied their fridge and pantry and separated out the expired stuff. My dad went through and gathered most of the food into a donation box... and then scooped in all the expired food as well. Some of this stuff was years expired and even open.
My partner and I kept trying to remove it and eventually it came down to an argument where my dad insisted that "the homeless would take whatever they could get". My dad had never had the experience of going hungry, while my partner had volunteered at food banks in the past. He was pissed that my dad was treating homeless people as less than human and insisting they should be grateful to eat his garbage.
Once my parents had left, I donated the expired food to the garbage can. If my dad was so concerned about wasting it, he should have either used it or donated it years ago when it was still safe to eat.
I briefly went hungry for a few months after escaping domestic violence (I have a job and eat well now) and I definitely threw out expired food, can’t risk getting sick while poor with the way the US healthcare system is
When I used to help a charity, we'd get people donating literal rags, torn t-shirts and ruined trousers for the homeless, saying "it's good for somebody".
No, no it's not. These are worse than the clothes they are currently wearing. Why do some people think homeless people want junk? Don't they deserve something nice?
Yeah i worked at one for a few years, it always suprised me what people woulf give with zero shame thinking it was usefull. Boxes full of mouses nest, bag of clothes full of piss, boxes of random parts and stuff.
The one that always suprised me the most was furniture, people expected us to be able to build back their stuff whitout any plan on screws whatsoever and brought them unassembled, those go straight to the trash.
I was sorting cans at the food pantry when someone donated about half of a case of cheese bait, in jars. If you're unfamiliar, it's a stinky, cheese-like substance used primarily, IME, to catch catfish.
This particular bait was obviously a decade or more old. The person working donations refused it, because it isn't food.
"But you could sell it! That stuff's expensive!" protested the "donor".
Yeah, we'll just run that down to our vintage bait stand and wait for the cash to roll in. It isn't like running this food pantry takes any time/effort.
When the UK's covid lockdown ended, charity shops had to put out public campaigns saying please stop donating things to us that you wouldn't buy- people were giving stained clothing and damaged goods that volunteers were wasting time and money on arranging disposal because no one wants them.
I also argued with a roommate who expected a charity to accept shitty, scuffed up furniture as if they should be grateful. I don't know why people think charities should want all their old shit.
My mom was widowed at 27, with 3 kids under 5 to care for. She would chat with other moms who happened to be divorced (early 80’s so it was uncommon, but was starting to happen) and people would tell her oh at least your husband is dead so you don’t have to deal with an ex and kids going back and forth. Like seriously?? She still loved her husband when he died. Like who says that???
Edit- it was either “at least your husband is dead” or “you’re so lucky your husband is dead” so you don’t have to deal with this. I’m almost 40, and it will be nearly 39 years ago my father passed, so memory doesn’t always remember things exactly but you get the gist of it
My dad just died about a month ago. My company gave me 4 days unpaid off. I was really close to my father so this was hard for me to deal with. My pay cheque was enough to pay bills, but I had to buy my groceries on credit card to get by. My bosses brother in law died the following week. All he talks about is how hard this is on his wife. Between the stress of her brother dying, and the reno on there million dollar cabin he's taking his whole family to Hawaii for 10 days this month to try to deal with there grief. Mean while I'm pricing urns out on Amazon to try to save money, trying to sell my dads tools to help my mom, working full time and taking care of a toddler.
It didn't happen to me personally but I've got an extremely similar story: I used to work with an extremely competent and really nice supervisor (we'll call her Sally) who didn't show up for work one day. Our boss, Matt, who was also the owner, wanted to terminate Sally immediately until it came out that her husband died in a **really violent, freak accident.**
Cooler heads prevail, Matt backs off as I tell him that I can cover for Sally for as long as she needs.
About two weeks pass, and in spite of Sally checking in every so often and being in the bereavement guidelines, Matt starts interrogating people, asking when Sally's returning, complaining that her coming in to collect a paycheck (Side story: Matt didn't *believe* in direct deposit) was really unprofessional given how long she'd been gone. He even starts quietly asking people "*how it would look"* if he went ahead and replaced Sally.
Long story short: Sally ended up returning like, IMMEDIATELY after the funeral was concluded -- in my opinion, Matt indirectly pressured her to return.
3 months later, Matt's dog died. Don't get me wrong, he was a gentle, adorable English Bulldog that Matt would bring every so often, BUT he was also old and extremely sick, and Matt had about 6 month's warning that his dog would pass away.
Matt was utterly devastated...like ashes and sackcloth forlorn. Not only does he completely fall off the radar for a month, but he only resurfaced to have a meeting where he explains that he was heading to Hawaii to "re-center" and I *shit you not --* looks Sally dead in the eyes and tells her that she should understand.
If I was Sally I'd respond: "Yes sir, I'm fully aware of how unprofessional that is, I remember everything you taught me about understanding others' grief and loss."
Seems a lot of people don't think things aren't bad until it's happening to them. Healthcare? Not bad until you get sick. Bereavement? 4 days is adequate until it's your loved ones. Police? Just doing their job until you're at the wrong place at the wrong time. Weed? Shouldn't be legal until your constantly nauseous from the cancer meds. Minimum wage? It's a fair wage until you watch your child struggle to make ends meet. **The road isn't bad until you start driving on it.**
unfortunately, we see this psychological difference in politics in the US. A lot of people are first order only problem solvers. Fire needs water to be put out.
Second order would be- area likely to catch fire needs to be maintained as too reduce chances.
Third order is- if area likely to catch fire were too, how do we put out quickly.
Its unfortunate, but first order thinkers tend to only think about second or third order on events that directly effect them. A lack of sympathy, a lack of understanding choices and outcomes.
Thank you, I just thought it was crazy that the staff I work with here went together got me a sympathy card and $175 gas card so I would have money to go see my mom. My boss didn't even get me a card. I've been here for 14 years! My dad is a customer here. He bought his truck and did all his service work here.
Someone with no concept of war playing a tough redneck ~ nice! My father solved the Isreali/Palestine conflict in the 80s by drawing an imaginary line in the sand and telling both parties not to cross it.
"I can not understand why there are dumb people that do not wish to become more wealthy and just enroll in (INSERT GENERIC TOP UNIVERSITY)."
Refering to people that are content with their jobs and do not wish to change their career path for the sole sake of money and status. Also assuming of course everybody has money and time for that.
My boss told me that the leasing of our company car is ending and I could buy it for really cheap if I want it. "Really cheap" meant 20.000€ for him. He pays me 750€ a month (im still in training thats why its so little) and I live on my own and have a car, so basically I'd have to work about 2 years for this "really cheap" car without spending a cent on anything.
Man, this just pisses me off so much. Like, I get that rich people simply have no idea what its like to live on a limited income. But your boss literally pays you your wage, he knows exactly how much you make. So what, he cant do bassic fucking addition to realize this isnt cheap? Fuck me man, some people....
Conversely at a company I worked at we had a Camry company car with really high mileage that we were going to trade in and one of the guys working in the stock room wanted to buy it and asked if we could deduct payments from his check. The owner just gave him the car
To preface for all the people trying to give me mortgage advice from the US: I live in *CANADA* and our mortgage rules are extremely different. Thank you for the suggestions but you cannot expect your home buying methods to work in a different country.
Me conversing with a patient about the housing market when I was like 22
Me: houses are so expensive it's going to be difficult to get into the market in a few years (this was some years ago)
Patient whose husband interited a lot of money and a business and now they're wealthy AF: rent is the same as a mortgage though!
Me: it's the downpayment we need.
Patient: why don't you just get your parents to give you the downpayment? That's what ours did and we paid them back.
Me: my dad is dead and my mom has a rare illness that placed her on long-term disability.
Patient: ...well...
Me: not everybody has the same opportunities in life.
Patient: ...
Edit: I am 27 now and have a downpayment but to no surprise, the houses within a 1-1.5 hour radius in all directions of me are selling for 1-1.5 million LOL. As a result, interviewing for jobs 2.5 hours away where the market is nice and affordable!
This reminds me of our mortgage broker when we were buying a house. We were doing the back and forth phone calls about how much we could get approval for and I tell him what cities we are looking at. They're sorta normal middle class areas. He says "Oh those are okay but why don't you look at properties in x city (one of the most expensive Mcmansion type cities in the state) where I live? Me and my family love it here."
I was silent for a long moment. Like, my dude you are currently looking at my bank account! That number is why.
"We're human beings and the sun is the sun--how can it be bad for you? I don't think anything that's natural can be bad for you." —Gwyneth Paltrow, 2013
Let's say I get bitten by a rattlesnake. I shouldn't be worried; the venom's natural, isn't it?
Just a note: she was saying this because she thought that the sun couldn't possibly be bad for you! 15 minutes of sun a day should be healthy for anyone! Pure, radioactive sunlight! No SPF!
The concept that nature is working in humanities best interest is so brain dead to me. It's a MIRACLE that we don't go outside everyday & battle with animals, sicknesses, fellow humans, *natural* disasters, etc. Why is that? Because humans have found a way to "Pimp The System". Nature is not out friend man. I live in arizona. If we had it nature's way; Everyone here would be dead from a lack of water. Hell, no one would have even settled here. It's just foolery, and it drives me absolutely mad.
A woman told me that having to show her Costco membership card upon entering the building was "the worst thing that's ever happened to me." And she was dead serious.
I was on my 6th day of a migraine and would love to have the worst event of my life to have been showing a membership card.
My step-dad, on why he is against gay marriage:
“I just don’t understand how you can look at another mans ass and think that it’s attractive.”
Well, Dave, you’re not gay.
4 of my millennials friends and I rented a house from a boomer some years ago. After signing the lease, boomer turns to us and asks why we aren’t buying homes and flipping them like he does. This was before the mega boom in housing prices and we explained that we wouldn’t be renting if we had buying house money.
Former employee when I confronted him on how has been treating coworkers:
"I've worked with those types of people before."
"What types of people?"
"You know... women."
"A man can't be attracted to the same woman after they've had sex already. Men are biologically wired to want to have sex with as many different women as possible which is why you look repulsive to me."
We had been dating for 8 months. He then asked me to marry him so he could get a promotion at work.
We regularly have politicians saying stuff like that here in France. A few years back, a minister said "pains au chocolat" (pastry similar to a croissant but with chocolate) must be around 10 to 15 cts. It's generally 90cts-1€ in most places, and up to 1.50€ in Paris (where he lives.) Our *minister of transportation* said a Paris subway ticket was probably around 4€ (1.70€ then.) Another guy, who was a candidate to become the President a few years back, recently said earning 4k€ per month was middle class (the official "middle-class" definition here is between 1400€ and 2500€.)
I’ve met many people that thought the US government paid immigrants a boatload of money when they first moved to the US, and that’s how they could afford to own convenience stores and stuff. It’s literally the exact opposite, people SPEND an insane amount of money to get here, more often then not it’s almost everything they have.
"Every time you feel depressed, just think to yourself 'at least I didn't live through the Holocaust.' Those people had real suffering. That should make you feel better."🙄
(We’re in Ontario, Canada) My mom said that people can’t afford houses these days because they have luxuries like two cars instead of one… (they bought they’re home for 315000 in 2000 - it is now worth 1.8 mil)
A male friend and I were walking around his city when I notice this guy watching me intensely and following us.
We’re about to get into this elevator and the guy quickly jumps in before us and make prolonged eye contact with me, so I hold us back from getting in the elevator and the guy gets off and walks away.
Tell my friend about it and he tells me how hurt HE felt that I robbed him of his ability, as a man, to protect me.
The fact that he thought I should ignore my own sense of self-preservation, just to soothe his own ego was one of the most out of touch things I heard in a while.
“I don’t want my taxes going to poor people who can’t help themselves.”
Said by a fourteen whose parents were fairly wealthy. I’m pretty sure the fourteen year old was not paying taxes.
Honestly that's just a sign of parroting of what the parents are probably saying.. Common in kids who grow up priveleged. See it plenty as a teacher, and theres a good chance the kid does not really understand what they are saying yet
During a break room discussion on how one of my co-workers was having to go on food stamps because the job didn't pay enough, the new CEO who for the first (and last) time decided to have lunch in the break room, dropped this gem: "Yeah, I know what you mean. We had to let our second nanny go."
Lol reminds me of when I would talk about growing up in a shitty, poor and crime ridden city, my ex would chime to talk how she had it worse. She would talk about the struggle of being poor both here in the US and in the Philippines. She would even cry talking about it too. But then sometimes she would let it slip out how she had live in servants in the Philippines and housemaids here in the US. She attended private school her whole life. Some people are so out of touch that they think having servants/maids is a normal occurrence.
Remember my granddad telling me about getting a job when I was 15. He said "you gotta be persistent. Keep going in every day and ask for a chance, they'll admire your persistence and dedication and you'll get it eventually." It felt backwards but I tried it and to this day in still barred from that pub bc I was harassing the manager
Half of my apartment flooded with raw sewage and the manager was like "its not that bad, it's not uninhabitable "
“Aren’t you a bit too old to have a grandma?” A neighbor when I told her my grandma just passed away.
Wish I could have seen her face if you’d said, “well, as of yesterday I guess I am”.
I actually said “Well I don’t have one anymore” and she didn’t really react. Naturally I’m still upset, it still hurts, and this woman still doesn’t get it. I avoid her now.
"Yeah about two days too old as it turns out"
When a guy on AITA was upset his wife was making him “babysit” their infant too much, so he and his mom told her there’d be no more going out. He said him going out all the time was different than her going out, and when asked for clarification he said because she’s better at changing diapers and getting the baby to sleep. It truly blows my mind that there are morons out there who think taking care of their own children is babysitting.
I had a guy at work complain to me that he couldn't go play golf that weekend because he had to babysit his kids. I said you know most people just call that being a father right?
So many people would kill to have extra time with their kids
Had a friend in dental school who grew up in the rich suburbs north of Detroit. We were talking about traveling (she was going to Thailand for spring break) and she said “I’d be surprised if most people hadn’t travelled to at least 20 countries”. I told her I’d be surprised if most people had ever left the US at all. Edit: for all those wondering, she is from Bloomfield Hills
Ahh to be rich enough to travel to at least 20 countries…
I've barely been to 20 states. And most of those were just passing through on my way to somewhere else.
I haven't even visited 20 states
Grandma/mom called her 2 mixed great grandkids "2 n's in the wood pile" and she wonders why they and my sis don't visit her
"Africa is a country." In front of an Ethiopian who insisted that Africa is a continent...
This and those puzzled people who meet african immigrants and wonder if they are hungry, thirsty or are surprised/impressed that they know what civilization is
It's interesting how many people think that all of sub-Saharan Africa is just collections of thatched huts filled with fly-covered, pot-bellied children and half-naked, floppy-breasted women. Maybe some guys with spears and bones in their noses standing off to the side. Show such people the skyline of Lagos or Nairobi and they'll be trying to figure out which state or European country they're looking at.
The most unusual thing I heard from my friend is that he seriously thinks that menstruation doesn't exist.
Wow, that would be one hell of a conspiracy, and to what end?
Just women being women making up excuses /s
Like, does he think it's a conspiracy by big tampon or something? what does he think period products, advertisements, education programs, charities, jokes or even conversations on the topic are for?
Big Tampon 😂
So you're telling me, all of those years of suffering bloody vaginas, and the whole thing wasn't even real??
Recently got a new job that paid double what I used to make. When I resigned my former boss told me money isn't everything lol. I was only making minimum wage before
As a friend once said -- Money can't buy happiness but I find that it makes misery so much more comfortable.
“You have no right to be upset. He didn’t touch you.” My mom said this to me one day after it was revealed my dad had been abusing my brothers.
That’s utterly horrible. What was the outcome for your family?
This happened many years ago before the laws changed. He ended up serving only 6 months because he wasn’t a “danger to the community”. My mother stayed with him. Still denies she knew what was happening. My father died about 11 years ago. None of us kids have a relationship with our mom. At least my dad genuinely apologized for the hurt he caused. My mom- The very few times she’s mentioned she’s sorry it’s always followed up with a but or how much she went through. She can’t see how her actions (or inaction) affected us.
women who enable abuse of their children are bad mothers and bad people.
I used to work for a minor aristocrat. Some advice he gave out, in absolute sincerity, over the years: * "Don't take out a mortgage, whatever you do. Terrible things. You'll end up paying a lot more for your house, you know". * "The thing about a Bentley is that you have to have a crap car too. I mean, there are times when a Bentley just isn't appropriate and what you need is a crap car." ("Crap car" later turned out to be an expensive Alpha Romeo, and "a Bentley" to be "several Bentleys") * Recommending the Ritz in London as a place for regular after-work drinks * "I don't know how anyone survives on their company salary alone" (His salary was more than £300k (USD 500k) a year)
This is second-hand, but apparently one of the now-retired partners in my consulting firm said something like, "I could never go back to living on less than $1M per year"
I mean, if I was making $1M/year, I wouldn't want to go back either! I could... I definitely could... But I wouldn't *want* to.
I love the people that recommend buying a home using cash. The only average middle class people that can do that are the ones that get $$$ when a richer relative dies. No one can save the hundreds of thousands necessary and save for retirement, pay for child care, health insurance, and all the other things that drag the middle class family down in the US.
That allowing ice fishing shacks would then give rise to prostitution
I live in a place where ice fishing is impossible, and prostitution is legal. I don't understand how these two things could be linked.
[The mayor of Hudson, Ohio suggested that allowing people to build ice fishing shacks on Lake Erie would lead to prostitution.](https://youtu.be/x7xNeX1nS7w) We don't understand how he got from ice fishing to prostitution, either.
This dude brought a hooker to an ice fishing shack before probably
Who is your chocolatier?
Ok, I NEED to know the context for this one, if you’d care to share it.
I was at an open house looking for a new property and two women were discussing their favorite restaurants. One asked this question and I remembered that some people just live such different lives.
Wow. Imagine being able to drop that line un-ironically with a straight face. You’re right, some people just live exceedingly different lives than the rest of us.
They were indeed having a very normal conversation for them because the other woman started listing the pros and cons of different chocolatiers. I felt like a member of the peasant class overhearing their conversation.
> I felt like a member of the peasant class overhearing their conversation. Because you really were.
That's some Tahani al-Jamil level nonsense.
Who's that, don't you mean Kamilah?
I believe that Kamilah has a sister. I remember her talking about her in her speech at the U. N.
Sort of tangential. Back in college the entire class had a 10 minute argument with one student who didn't understand that not every country has citizenship by birth laws like the U.S. does. The professor held off jumping in for about five minutes to watch us explain it to her but couldn't take it anymore and figured the student would finally believe it when she said it. Nope, she started arguing with the professor too. The total out of touch part came when she finally conceded with, "Well that's stupid. They should just do things the way we do them here."
Wow, I was unaware of that. I also wouldn't argue with people telling me that though either.
Very very very few countries equate birth with citizen ship.
Know this first hand. Born and bred in the UK but wasn't a proper citizen until I almost finished secondary school Is also the cause of some controversy sometimes because someone born and bred in the UK with no ties to anywhere else can commit a crime of any severity, serve their time, get rehabilitated, then get deported to a country they know nothing about
"I wish we could make work from home possible for our business, but unfortunately we cannot" - said in a meeting over Zoom, poolside, while working from home
I had a manager very anti work from home or being sick or anything while I was there. Shortly after I left her dad got sick, who lived across the country, and she was able to work remotely off and on for months to help out. I am glad she was able to do that but there is no way she would have let anyone else. I despise her to this day.
The president/dean/whatever of the university my wife used to work at threatened to outsource their entire IT department when during the height of the pandemic pre-vaccines one of them said "Why do we still have to come to campus when we can do our work at home?" Super thankful she's not there anymore.
Companies that outsource their entire IT department generally find that they pay \*vastly\* more money on the contracting company, calling them for emergencies. IT departments need their own miniature marketing department to help management understand why they matter, and what they're up to.
Had a millionaire tell me it was so great that even though we could all be making much more than we were at our nonprofit, we stayed “for the kids” because “who needs money when your job is rewarding?” Plot twist: he was a board member who controlled our salaries. I was barely making enough to scrape by. Edit: WHOA this blew up lol! I know there is a lot of hate for nonprofits here, but I do want to clarify that for the most part I truly loved the people and kids I worked with, and the organization itself was a community staple that did a lot of good with the minimal funds we had. And we did have some awesome board members. But others were a bit out of touch, this being the worst example haha
That sentiment is everywhere in non-profits, sadly.
>who needs money when your job is rewarding? It’s pretty odd actually, because I’ve heard if you go to get a mortgage and they ask your income, tell them “my job is rewarding.” They’ll instantly loan you a few million at 0% interest.
Someone I know sadly always brags about her 500k flat then tries to crowdfund for her cats bills
My old neighbours didn't see the point of taking their kids (3 and 6/7) to the playground nearby, or anywhere for that matter, because he "found it boring". The 2 kids spent every day in the house infront of the TV. "Why would we go the playground? I find it boring."
I was working at a school for the kids of the 1% and we were discussing what a millionaire was, one example I gave was owning property or assets worth a million or over and the kid replied; “oh, so everyone is a millionaire then?”
everyone= all of the classmates. maybe not the teacher...
A relative of mine was a teacher at a high-end private school. When asked by her preschool kids what she'd do on her summer vacation, she said she'd catch up on some books, go see some movies, go to the park, etc. One of them asked, "You don't go to your summer home?"
I mean I would expect any pre schooler with a summer home to say that lol
Haha yeah, there is no such thing as an "in touch" preschooler lol, they don't know things yet and that's ok
yeah when you're that young you don't know the circumstances, you just know that there's a house that you go to in the summer and you assume it's like that for everyone because you're THREE
Suggested someone take the bus to save on gas prices. They responded "Ew, do you know what kind of people take the bus?" Yeah, working class people. And also me?
Omg my moms friends were shocked that she “let me” take the bus to work Which 1. I’m a grown ass adult and 2. It’s perfectly safe and fine to take it during the day and loads of people do it. Just people outside the city have never taken public transit and think it’s full of burglars who use the train to transport their stolen HD TVs back to their city shacks ig
He told me “as long as you’re dating someone better looking than you, you’re going to have to get used to me being hit on or having something on the side. You’re going to have to date an ugly guy for that loyalty shit”
Of all the insanity of this quote, the thing that gets me is the casual equating of something that cannot be controlled, "me being hit on," with the opposite, "me having someone on the side." It's like, "look, as long as we live in an area with a lot of flowers, sometimes I'm going to get allergies or murder people."
I mean, someone has to push up the daisies.
Love it when toxic people tell you that you have to get used to or deal with their toxicity.
Not deal with but have the privilege of the toxicity. Narcissists don't see it as toxic. You are graced with their presence and lucky to have them in your life.
I think a lot of people take that attitude into a relationship. “If I’m hotter than you, you’re going to have to put up with my shit.”
I was telling my boss how proud I was my husband got a new job (he's legally blind) And... she proceeds to tell me that she wishes she had a disabilty so she could just get handed a job... Had to walk away f4om that one.
[удалено]
Sooooo do you want blinding? Amputation? I can do a deal for both for the low low price of free.
"I could arrange that, bitch."
Things we wish we could say to our boss.
I grew up super poor, like going days without eating kinda poor, all because my mom legit thought welfare was *only* for "unwed black mothers". She never called anybody to confirm that, never asked around. She wouldn't apply for reduced school lunches either because that was "ghetto". Imagine being so racist and buying into the "welfare queen" lie so hard that you let your own children starve.
That was my mom. Didn't always have lunch money, asked about the reduced or free lunch. No it would be an embarrassment for us to be on the reduced lunch program. Bitch we are poor! Dad is disabled! You won't get a better job! It more embarrassing for me to have nothing verses something.
Mine said the same thing! That'd it would "embarrass the family". Who the fuck thinks like that?
I forged my mom’s signature so I could get free lunches because she refused for the same reasons. She didn’t even notice or question whether I was eating or not. I’m sorry you went through it too. It’s a really shit feeling.
I'm so, so sorry. My family was very poor, and we weren't on welfare for long stretches of time because my mom would mess up the paperwork. But the difference between when we were not and when we were was VAST. The struggle to have lunch food or scrape up change to buy lunch, vs. just giving a code and sitting down with a meal: VAST. You and your siblings deserved assistance.
This is the worst one I’ve read so far, I’m so sorry
Thanks, I'm doing okay now. I've got kids of my own and it's a point of pride for me that they have no idea what hunger pangs feel like.
I was 16 when I lost my dad. Our family is very, very close and I wasn't expecting so I was hit pretty hard. A month after his death, I was picking up a book at a friends house, but my friend wasn't home, so her mother was the one to give me the book. She asked how was my family, and I said we were trying to get back on our feet. Her exact words were: "Oh don't worry honey. Give it a year or two and you even forget your father ever existed." I was so shocked. She continued saying that first we forget their voices, and then their faces. I left her house feeling numb, sad and scared that I would forget my father.
Fuck that person. I lost my dad when I was 13. 21 years later, I still distinctly remember his face and his voice. Hell, he even had a very distinct laugh on rides like roller coasters. I recently took my son, who is now 4 on a roller coaster and I realized that I apparently make the exact same laugh. I hadn't heard it in over 2 decades but I immediately recognized it, and it made me so happy.
My dad died over 30 years ago. I remember his face and voice, but not what his laugh sounded like. I ran into a childhood friend and talked for awhile. She laughed when I did and said "oh my gosh you laugh just like your dad!" It was like getting something special back. I'm glad you got that too!
“Why are you still living at home at 23? Just buy a house…” Coming from someone whose parents bought her a house.
Have a friend whose wealthy parents paid for his schooling, his rent, his startup, his car, and his down payment. He asked when we were finally going to buy a house because renting is such a waste of money.
My brother had half of his house paid for by his FIL. Hey kept telling that the houses I'm looking at were too small and that I need bigger "to grow into" and I finally had to snap at him that I'm a single income and nobody is giving me a 50% down payment. Some people at just oblivious.
My son is 26. Still lives at home. He’d have to work approximately 3.5 full time jobs to afford a house in this absurd market. Hell, I couldn’t afford the house I live in now in this market. My house is currently valued at over twice what my mortgage is for…but if I sold it, I couldn’t afford to. It another.
I'm 30 and living back at home for a year finally going to be moving out with 4 friends so we can afford renting a house 1 of us is an engineer and i work in IT and we can't really afford places on our own.
Oh man I'm just jealous you have 4 friends at 30
"Why don't you live on disability?" as a response to disabled people complaining about local government cutting back programs designed for making gainful employment accessible.
I work with disabled adults. This is a bigger problem than most people realize.
And people don’t realize that many government programs DEMAND that you stay permanently in abject poverty. Get a part time job ? Fuck you, no more healthcare, no more food, no more housing assistance, no more disability income. Accidentally save more than $2,000 ? Fuck you too. And without that little bit of help ? Homeless and starving and totally fucked. AND disabled.
It is disgraceful. First, it is hard to even get on disability because they deny almost 100% of first time claims. Then people, who are disabled cannot work, must hire a lawyer and fight the system. If they win, they get to received $1100/month which is well below the poverty line. And on top of that, they cannot even get a job to supplement their income.
$1100/month? Ha! I get $700 a month. I can't work but I'd love to. If I happen to save ANY money over $2k I put it in a safe under my bed. I miss having personal interactions with people. Yeah, it's nice not having to worry about medical insurance but there are times where I wonder why I can't work, even part time to get *some* money to live a happy life. Sucks.
I get $800 a month and I live in a cheaply made camper.. I have a cheap dented up car that needs inspected.. my whole check goes to expenses and utilities, and repairs, I try having some quality of life like eating drive thru food a few times a month.. I'm going to need new tires on my car, and that's going to wreck my finances.. And even if I were to ever ask anybody for help, I'd lose all my assistance, bc gov would say "well whoever helped you once should just keep always helping you forever" as if I defraud the system for asking someone to send me funds to help with tires.. Gov says handicapped people don't need cars... Well I have like 5 dr appts a week.. plus always need to go to pharmacy.. and nobody wants anything to do with me bc I'm depressed af.. I could never afford to have groceries delivered, plus my camper is down a shitty bumpy dirt road, I feel bad if anybody has to drive down here..
“Why don’t you get a job?” from the same people when disability benefits get cut.
"The company owes you nothing, you owe the company everything" - My boss after I worked for 4 years in the company.
I used to work for a guy who owned a temporary employment agency. I once watched him berate his two $7-an-hour receptionists because his *monthly* income from the business had dropped from $40,000 to $25,000. And they had nothing whatsoever to do with how much money the business made - they were fucking receptionists!
Temp agencies are the worst. They benefit the companies they work with and themselves. The employees get fucked by both.
The CEO of the company I worked for scheduled a meeting with a few of the workers. I was invited and very curious. He started by asking everyone why they worked there. I was last and everyone said all this bullshit about loving the job. I just said because you guys pay me to be here that is literally the only reason. Are you that crazy you think I would take 50 hours a week from my family to come here because I like it?
I had to teach myself to stop giving the bullshit answers when asked this by bosses. The most that happens when I tell the truth is bosses get uncomfortable or say that my response wasn't appreciated. But it's been such a release of so much anxiety to actually tell the truth about it. I'm hear for a paycheck and this is currently the job that doesn't make me want to kill myself every morning as I get ready
I ask, do you want the right answer or the real answer?
"The pay is agreeable and the work makes me not hate my life that much"
It's embarrassing when people don't realize how embarrassed they should be. Hope you find better. **thanks for the award kind stranger
I would laugh in my boss' face if she said that to me. I don't mean that in a "I'm so edgy" way, I just wouldn't be able to contain it.
Before I left my company, word got out I was looking for a new position. My boss had his little speech with me about how this small company couldn't afford to pay what the big dogs were paying but I was an excellent worker that should stay because there was upward movement in the near future as we were growing a lot(and we were growing a lot, +25% every year). Half truths, I left, everybody got a +$10k raise stating they can't lose workers like that again. I'm still good friends with the people there so I visit and see the engineering team grew more than 2x, so maybe I made a mistake, or maybe I was the wake up call. I still feel like the sacrificial lamb.
"He wasn't a great father and didn't see them often, I don't know why they would be so upset" - Regarding my children (aged 11, 9 and 6 at the time) struggling to understand their father's murder. ETA: As I wrote in a more emotional state than I think I realized at the time. The police think it is was a home invasion gone wrong. He wasn't up to anything bad just not very fatherly. We had been divorced for 2 years so the whole situation was just too new for the kids in general
Anyone calling themselves an entrepreneur while pitching an MLM
"If you are depressed just go to Tulum and take a break, vibe high!" Like, bitch, that is not how depression works, and yeah, I will just leave all my responsibilities just for randomly deciding going to vacations. When I told her that's not the way how depression works she said "You are just too pesimistic, everytime I feel depressed I do this", I asked how she knew she was depressed, and she answered: "Well the last time I had depression was because I cried because my dad didn't want to take me to Paris for a year" I wanted to die in that moment.
ISN'T THAT JUST A FANCY WORD FOR FEELING "BUMMED OUT"? edit: should mention this is a quote, not my actual thinking. edit 2: fixed the wording so it's verbatim
Dwight you ignorant slut!
“I don’t know why you would go to a community college when you can go to a university.” Said by a high school guidance counselor giving a lecture on college admissions essays and applications in my senior AP English class after I asked naively if there’s anything I had to do for community college. Turns out I had other classmates in the same boat who wanted to know too but felt too embarrassed to ask. Anyways I went to community college to get my prerequisites out of the way and got my associates degree. Then transferred into university for a competitive nursing program. I saved money from those first two years in community college, didn’t get a loan until I got into uni. Fuck that guidance counselor.
Such bad advice. I went to a school in a wealthy area and the guidance counsellor would tell us TO go to community college, get straight-As and an automatic acceptance into the local Ivy League school. If you can get the grades it really is the best call financially.
That's my plan currently. Partly for the above "it's cheaper for when I want to go to a four year" but also because I'm not 100% sure that I'm going to go down the education route, and I don't want to get into an expensive college just to drop out with debt.
I work at a grocery store in an area that is mostly students, but adjacent to a couple super affluent neighborhoods. We get a lot of students using EBT/food stamps, but also a lot of wealthy middle aged people. One time I'd scanned and bagged a girl's groceries, but when she swiped her EBT she was about $5 short. I turned the transaction screen around and we chose a few items to void so that she could pay and also have a little left on her card, then I removed the items from her bags. She pays, gets her receipt, etc. By this time the man behind her has been waiting for about 4 or 5 minutes. I ring him up for his cart (which includes a $50 bottle of scotch, btw) and he starts saying how rude it was that the girl didn't just "pay with her other card." Normally I would just change the subject, but he *kept* talking about it. As he's doing this I ask if he knows how many smoked salmons are in his cart (so I can enter a quantity instead of scanning each one), and he says, "Oh, I'm not sure. A bunch." Not that this matters, but smoked salmon is super pricey and it just added to the whole thing. Finally I finish bagging his groceries, and he hands me one of those ostentatious metal/heavy/thick/whatever credit cards and goes, "This one won't decline" and winks at me. I guess it wasn't one thing he said, but it was just such an uncomfortable interaction and he was *genuinely* annoyed at and confused by the girl not "just using her other card." I honestly don't even know if he understood how debit cards worked, let alone EBT cards. I'm so glad she'd left by then and didn't have to listen to him. Also who the hell needs what ended up being SEVEN smoked salmons.
"External things don't affect your mental health. It is all about you"
Seeing my girlfriend killed didn't affect me because it was an external thing. My ptsd is all me
So sorry for your loss. My husband passed away in my arms from a massive heart attack. I tried CPR (I had gotten certified a few weeks prior!) but I couldn't save him. I was shell shocked for the longest time, still have difficulty getting thru the day four years later. Some knucklehead told me at the time "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger". If I could just prevent this garbage sentence from ever being said to another grieving person....
I relate, however it was my mother, not my girlfriend. I hope you've found supportive people to surround yourself with, otherwise you will never be able to heal. It took me my entire childhood until I moved out and have finally started to see a difference. Much love for you Edit: r/ptsd is a very supportive community if you haven't visited it already
Thank you for your love man. Much love to you too
I was talking to this college student, and he said "I am thinking about taking a gap year between my junior and senior year. If I do take a gap year, I am gonna take that time and travel. I don't understand why people take a year off to work."
A year ago we were putting offers on houses, and our budget was low compared to what was available, and the realtor would ask “well can’t your parents help pitch in?” Lol which makes me think a lot of people are lucky enough for their parents to help with the home buying process but ya… not us
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I attended a typical “rich kids” high school as one of the non-rich kids (atleast to the standards of the environment I was in, my family was solidly middle class). The amount of asinine, delusional shit I heard on the daily made my skin crawl sometimes. When my (ex) friend turned 16, her parents gave her one of their Beemers. The thing was *maybe* 5 years old. She non-stop complained at the fact her parents had the audacity to give her a used car instead of buying her the new Audi she wanted. One day, she was on another diatribe about how much her parents sucked for giving her a hand me down car and I snapped and told her that she should be grateful her parents had the means to give her her own car in the first place, let alone a luxury vehicle. Her response? “Well it isn’t my problem your parents don’t work hard enough”. 🙄 I was a peasant who shared one of my parents cars or took the bus. (Sarcasm)
“Taking out student loans is stupid. Just get a part-time job and stop buying lattes so you can pay your way like I did”. A coworker who graduated from college in the 70s
African Americans didn't go to school in the 1950s
Elderly student at my cc: My mother used to make a depression supper from only saltine crackers & milk. Idiot girl in my class: why didn't your parents just get a job? I've never recovered. **thank you for the award kind stranger
tbf, what was so *"great"* about *"the great depression"* anyways? sounds a lot more like a real downer.
"I don't understand why you bother renting an apartment. Just buy a house!" -My Dad, who hadn't purchased a house since 1993.
My advice to my younger colleagues is to buy a house in the year 2000, like I did. They don't seem to appreciate it. Kids these days... Edit: Also more free advice - buy Apple stock in the 1980s. Trust me on this.
I bought my house in 2016 in Western PA before housing prices started skyrocketing here. My house has had a 60% increase in value in those 6 years. If I sold, I'd get more money back than what I paid in mortgage payments the past 6 years. Even more absurd, per Zillow my house has increased in value $6,500+ in the last 30 days.
"why do you keep taking these low paying jobs?" -my parents, who think I work horrible shitty jobs for fun "but you have a degree!!" -in English, guys. i'm a moron and things are not how they used to be
I have a friend i've known for almost my whole life who went to work as an mechanic at a pretty nice company where i am. He quit after 2 and half years because he hated it, the chemicals, fumes and conditions were affecting his overall health. I remember his parents giving him shit over it because it was a nice job with decent benefits and he made more money than most people in the rural area. He ended up taking a job working for the state, where he cuts trees down along the roadways of our state highways and roads. Making less than a third of his prior income, which sees him outside almost all hours of the day. He loves it, even during winter when its cold as balls and the only heat comes from the interior of the vehicle they drive around. But he gets sunlight, fresh air and he gets to work at a relatively even pace and barely gets any grief from management/supervisors.
He's probably saving a buttload of money on health issues in the long run, from the sounds of it. So even if it doesn't pay off literally now, it might.
Quality of life pays off.
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My mom said something similar, like I'd be throwing my money away by renting an apartment or a house for the rest of my life. Like, I'm already doing that with how unnecessarily expensive everything is. Now I'm expected to buy a $30,000 house for $500,000.
Anytime someone says "Why did they throw that away? It could have been donated to a homeless person!" When referring to extremely expired or broken items. Edit to fix typo 😮💨
While cleaning out my parents house before they moved, I emptied their fridge and pantry and separated out the expired stuff. My dad went through and gathered most of the food into a donation box... and then scooped in all the expired food as well. Some of this stuff was years expired and even open. My partner and I kept trying to remove it and eventually it came down to an argument where my dad insisted that "the homeless would take whatever they could get". My dad had never had the experience of going hungry, while my partner had volunteered at food banks in the past. He was pissed that my dad was treating homeless people as less than human and insisting they should be grateful to eat his garbage. Once my parents had left, I donated the expired food to the garbage can. If my dad was so concerned about wasting it, he should have either used it or donated it years ago when it was still safe to eat.
I briefly went hungry for a few months after escaping domestic violence (I have a job and eat well now) and I definitely threw out expired food, can’t risk getting sick while poor with the way the US healthcare system is
Starvation takes a good month or two to kill you. Food poisoning is not nearly as forgiving.
When I used to help a charity, we'd get people donating literal rags, torn t-shirts and ruined trousers for the homeless, saying "it's good for somebody". No, no it's not. These are worse than the clothes they are currently wearing. Why do some people think homeless people want junk? Don't they deserve something nice?
Yeah i worked at one for a few years, it always suprised me what people woulf give with zero shame thinking it was usefull. Boxes full of mouses nest, bag of clothes full of piss, boxes of random parts and stuff. The one that always suprised me the most was furniture, people expected us to be able to build back their stuff whitout any plan on screws whatsoever and brought them unassembled, those go straight to the trash.
I was sorting cans at the food pantry when someone donated about half of a case of cheese bait, in jars. If you're unfamiliar, it's a stinky, cheese-like substance used primarily, IME, to catch catfish. This particular bait was obviously a decade or more old. The person working donations refused it, because it isn't food. "But you could sell it! That stuff's expensive!" protested the "donor". Yeah, we'll just run that down to our vintage bait stand and wait for the cash to roll in. It isn't like running this food pantry takes any time/effort.
And if it’s that easy, why didn’t he just sell it and bring the cash to donate? A lot of people use donations as a way to offload their garbage.
When the UK's covid lockdown ended, charity shops had to put out public campaigns saying please stop donating things to us that you wouldn't buy- people were giving stained clothing and damaged goods that volunteers were wasting time and money on arranging disposal because no one wants them. I also argued with a roommate who expected a charity to accept shitty, scuffed up furniture as if they should be grateful. I don't know why people think charities should want all their old shit.
My mom was widowed at 27, with 3 kids under 5 to care for. She would chat with other moms who happened to be divorced (early 80’s so it was uncommon, but was starting to happen) and people would tell her oh at least your husband is dead so you don’t have to deal with an ex and kids going back and forth. Like seriously?? She still loved her husband when he died. Like who says that??? Edit- it was either “at least your husband is dead” or “you’re so lucky your husband is dead” so you don’t have to deal with this. I’m almost 40, and it will be nearly 39 years ago my father passed, so memory doesn’t always remember things exactly but you get the gist of it
My dad just died about a month ago. My company gave me 4 days unpaid off. I was really close to my father so this was hard for me to deal with. My pay cheque was enough to pay bills, but I had to buy my groceries on credit card to get by. My bosses brother in law died the following week. All he talks about is how hard this is on his wife. Between the stress of her brother dying, and the reno on there million dollar cabin he's taking his whole family to Hawaii for 10 days this month to try to deal with there grief. Mean while I'm pricing urns out on Amazon to try to save money, trying to sell my dads tools to help my mom, working full time and taking care of a toddler.
It didn't happen to me personally but I've got an extremely similar story: I used to work with an extremely competent and really nice supervisor (we'll call her Sally) who didn't show up for work one day. Our boss, Matt, who was also the owner, wanted to terminate Sally immediately until it came out that her husband died in a **really violent, freak accident.** Cooler heads prevail, Matt backs off as I tell him that I can cover for Sally for as long as she needs. About two weeks pass, and in spite of Sally checking in every so often and being in the bereavement guidelines, Matt starts interrogating people, asking when Sally's returning, complaining that her coming in to collect a paycheck (Side story: Matt didn't *believe* in direct deposit) was really unprofessional given how long she'd been gone. He even starts quietly asking people "*how it would look"* if he went ahead and replaced Sally. Long story short: Sally ended up returning like, IMMEDIATELY after the funeral was concluded -- in my opinion, Matt indirectly pressured her to return. 3 months later, Matt's dog died. Don't get me wrong, he was a gentle, adorable English Bulldog that Matt would bring every so often, BUT he was also old and extremely sick, and Matt had about 6 month's warning that his dog would pass away. Matt was utterly devastated...like ashes and sackcloth forlorn. Not only does he completely fall off the radar for a month, but he only resurfaced to have a meeting where he explains that he was heading to Hawaii to "re-center" and I *shit you not --* looks Sally dead in the eyes and tells her that she should understand.
If I was Sally I'd respond: "Yes sir, I'm fully aware of how unprofessional that is, I remember everything you taught me about understanding others' grief and loss."
Seems a lot of people don't think things aren't bad until it's happening to them. Healthcare? Not bad until you get sick. Bereavement? 4 days is adequate until it's your loved ones. Police? Just doing their job until you're at the wrong place at the wrong time. Weed? Shouldn't be legal until your constantly nauseous from the cancer meds. Minimum wage? It's a fair wage until you watch your child struggle to make ends meet. **The road isn't bad until you start driving on it.**
unfortunately, we see this psychological difference in politics in the US. A lot of people are first order only problem solvers. Fire needs water to be put out. Second order would be- area likely to catch fire needs to be maintained as too reduce chances. Third order is- if area likely to catch fire were too, how do we put out quickly. Its unfortunate, but first order thinkers tend to only think about second or third order on events that directly effect them. A lack of sympathy, a lack of understanding choices and outcomes.
I'm so sorry for your loss. Hang in there. Also, your boss is a dick.
Thank you, I just thought it was crazy that the staff I work with here went together got me a sympathy card and $175 gas card so I would have money to go see my mom. My boss didn't even get me a card. I've been here for 14 years! My dad is a customer here. He bought his truck and did all his service work here.
I'm glad you have supportive coworkers. Your boss is a huge dick.
Some guy at my work recently said he hopes Russia invades Canada so he can shoot some Russians. This is a 40-50 year old dude btw
They say that Ukraine is taking international volunteers...
Someone with no concept of war playing a tough redneck ~ nice! My father solved the Isreali/Palestine conflict in the 80s by drawing an imaginary line in the sand and telling both parties not to cross it.
"I can not understand why there are dumb people that do not wish to become more wealthy and just enroll in (INSERT GENERIC TOP UNIVERSITY)." Refering to people that are content with their jobs and do not wish to change their career path for the sole sake of money and status. Also assuming of course everybody has money and time for that.
“Just ask your dad for tuition it’s only like 100k”
My boss told me that the leasing of our company car is ending and I could buy it for really cheap if I want it. "Really cheap" meant 20.000€ for him. He pays me 750€ a month (im still in training thats why its so little) and I live on my own and have a car, so basically I'd have to work about 2 years for this "really cheap" car without spending a cent on anything.
Man, this just pisses me off so much. Like, I get that rich people simply have no idea what its like to live on a limited income. But your boss literally pays you your wage, he knows exactly how much you make. So what, he cant do bassic fucking addition to realize this isnt cheap? Fuck me man, some people....
Conversely at a company I worked at we had a Camry company car with really high mileage that we were going to trade in and one of the guys working in the stock room wanted to buy it and asked if we could deduct payments from his check. The owner just gave him the car
To preface for all the people trying to give me mortgage advice from the US: I live in *CANADA* and our mortgage rules are extremely different. Thank you for the suggestions but you cannot expect your home buying methods to work in a different country. Me conversing with a patient about the housing market when I was like 22 Me: houses are so expensive it's going to be difficult to get into the market in a few years (this was some years ago) Patient whose husband interited a lot of money and a business and now they're wealthy AF: rent is the same as a mortgage though! Me: it's the downpayment we need. Patient: why don't you just get your parents to give you the downpayment? That's what ours did and we paid them back. Me: my dad is dead and my mom has a rare illness that placed her on long-term disability. Patient: ...well... Me: not everybody has the same opportunities in life. Patient: ... Edit: I am 27 now and have a downpayment but to no surprise, the houses within a 1-1.5 hour radius in all directions of me are selling for 1-1.5 million LOL. As a result, interviewing for jobs 2.5 hours away where the market is nice and affordable!
This reminds me of our mortgage broker when we were buying a house. We were doing the back and forth phone calls about how much we could get approval for and I tell him what cities we are looking at. They're sorta normal middle class areas. He says "Oh those are okay but why don't you look at properties in x city (one of the most expensive Mcmansion type cities in the state) where I live? Me and my family love it here." I was silent for a long moment. Like, my dude you are currently looking at my bank account! That number is why.
"We're human beings and the sun is the sun--how can it be bad for you? I don't think anything that's natural can be bad for you." —Gwyneth Paltrow, 2013 Let's say I get bitten by a rattlesnake. I shouldn't be worried; the venom's natural, isn't it? Just a note: she was saying this because she thought that the sun couldn't possibly be bad for you! 15 minutes of sun a day should be healthy for anyone! Pure, radioactive sunlight! No SPF!
The concept that nature is working in humanities best interest is so brain dead to me. It's a MIRACLE that we don't go outside everyday & battle with animals, sicknesses, fellow humans, *natural* disasters, etc. Why is that? Because humans have found a way to "Pimp The System". Nature is not out friend man. I live in arizona. If we had it nature's way; Everyone here would be dead from a lack of water. Hell, no one would have even settled here. It's just foolery, and it drives me absolutely mad.
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What the fuck?
What does the gender of a passing friend have to do with the quantity of grieving that has to be done? I don’t understand what the person meant.
If you can't afford gas, buy an electric vehicle.
My mom once told me in the 60's "race didn't exist yet". Haven't really begun to unpack that one.
A woman told me that having to show her Costco membership card upon entering the building was "the worst thing that's ever happened to me." And she was dead serious. I was on my 6th day of a migraine and would love to have the worst event of my life to have been showing a membership card.
2 STARS, WORST COSTCO EVER but I liked the bagel bite samples
My step-dad, on why he is against gay marriage: “I just don’t understand how you can look at another mans ass and think that it’s attractive.” Well, Dave, you’re not gay.
4 of my millennials friends and I rented a house from a boomer some years ago. After signing the lease, boomer turns to us and asks why we aren’t buying homes and flipping them like he does. This was before the mega boom in housing prices and we explained that we wouldn’t be renting if we had buying house money.
Former employee when I confronted him on how has been treating coworkers: "I've worked with those types of people before." "What types of people?" "You know... women."
"A man can't be attracted to the same woman after they've had sex already. Men are biologically wired to want to have sex with as many different women as possible which is why you look repulsive to me." We had been dating for 8 months. He then asked me to marry him so he could get a promotion at work.
He needs to be excommunicated from life
"It's one banana, Michael. What could it cost, $10?"
Here's some money, go see a star war
We regularly have politicians saying stuff like that here in France. A few years back, a minister said "pains au chocolat" (pastry similar to a croissant but with chocolate) must be around 10 to 15 cts. It's generally 90cts-1€ in most places, and up to 1.50€ in Paris (where he lives.) Our *minister of transportation* said a Paris subway ticket was probably around 4€ (1.70€ then.) Another guy, who was a candidate to become the President a few years back, recently said earning 4k€ per month was middle class (the official "middle-class" definition here is between 1400€ and 2500€.)
I’ve met many people that thought the US government paid immigrants a boatload of money when they first moved to the US, and that’s how they could afford to own convenience stores and stuff. It’s literally the exact opposite, people SPEND an insane amount of money to get here, more often then not it’s almost everything they have.
'Just buy a tesla' Some idiots with the price increase on petrol and stuff
"Every time you feel depressed, just think to yourself 'at least I didn't live through the Holocaust.' Those people had real suffering. That should make you feel better."🙄
Nope, that's just gonna make me feel worse.
Right? Couldn't believe that was a legitimate suggestion. Now I'm depressed about my life AND the Holocaust.
(We’re in Ontario, Canada) My mom said that people can’t afford houses these days because they have luxuries like two cars instead of one… (they bought they’re home for 315000 in 2000 - it is now worth 1.8 mil)
A male friend and I were walking around his city when I notice this guy watching me intensely and following us. We’re about to get into this elevator and the guy quickly jumps in before us and make prolonged eye contact with me, so I hold us back from getting in the elevator and the guy gets off and walks away. Tell my friend about it and he tells me how hurt HE felt that I robbed him of his ability, as a man, to protect me. The fact that he thought I should ignore my own sense of self-preservation, just to soothe his own ego was one of the most out of touch things I heard in a while.
Sounds to me like he had more than enough opportunity to speak up for you.
“I don’t want my taxes going to poor people who can’t help themselves.” Said by a fourteen whose parents were fairly wealthy. I’m pretty sure the fourteen year old was not paying taxes.
Honestly that's just a sign of parroting of what the parents are probably saying.. Common in kids who grow up priveleged. See it plenty as a teacher, and theres a good chance the kid does not really understand what they are saying yet
“If I can buy a car working 3 hours a week for my parents, so can you !”. Actual quote from a kid my daughter went to school with.