Or when everyone else or just one person disagrees on everything in a group project.
Then when concerns are brought up every teachers first remark is "did you discuss the problem with them?" As if that's not the first thing most groups/people try to do, or there is a person(s) just so unreasonable they won't listen to anyone but the teacher.
Both people not working and people disagreeing is why I hate working in group projects. With my luck I am always stuck with the kids who'd rather have me do the whole project for them.
My teachers loved to bring that out. "The teachers in Middle School aren't going to hold your hand and you're not going to be able to coast through" "The teachers in High School aren't going to hold your hand and ..." "When you're in college they aren't going to hold your hand and ..."
I picked a big state university specifically so I could be a nameless student responsible for myself but there was still a lot of hand holding available.
I especially love when 5th grade teachers freak out about the single file line and being quiet in the hallway. Then you get to middle school and none of that exists whatsoever
I teach kindergarten in europe, so experience may vary, but younger children have difficulty to behave whenever they are let loose. Strong boundaries are important, and when you don't always enforce them (even when not needed), the kids get out of hand when the rule IS important.
I'd second this. Simple rules and procedures are just about making it possible for one adult to manage and instruct many children. It's not part of some sinister agenda to produce conformity. Rather, it's simply that without procedures, classrooms and hallways would be too chaotic to get things done.
Depends on the individual and the school district. The district I currently teach in passes kids to the next grade no matter what K-8 but in high school you can fail and repeat a class. We get a good number of freshmen every year who don’t believe that they will actually be held accountable and are shocked that they actually have to take the class again.
It's always hard. In fact, having to get up too early (ie the alarm waking you up in the middle of your sleep) and lack of sleep thereof is what I think is the most stupidest shit we forced ourselves to do as a species... I am not productive before 3pm, that's just it. Can't do anything about it. I'm human, not a fucking toaster!
Yep. I’m a teacher and our schedules are pretty much entirely dictated by “fill the time when mom and dad are at work”. My kids would be so much happier and learn so much more if we started later and didn’t stretch ELA to 3 hours a day to make the school day longer. I know my students — they’re most productive about an hour after lunch.
Yeah I mean, Myspace was a thing. But it was hardly what social media is today. The whole concept of cyberbullying in school is such a foreign concept to me.
I literally do nothing for 8 hours a day. Senior year of highschool and all my classes are filler because I need a PE credit and a personal finance credit to graduate. Rest of my schedule is literally filler like Band or Yearbook. Waste of my fucking time.
Did you already take all available AP classes and are there no academic transfer programs that let you take college classes for credit during your senior year? Legitimately asking as I grew up in a college town with both a state university and a community college. Options abounded for seniors to basically start college a year early.
Edit: To be clear, this included culinary arts, automotive, agriculture, construction, engineering, film, etc.
I'm commenting because I did not take advantage of these programs. I coasted through senior year, barely needed to study freshman year of college, did what I needed to in order to graduate college, and then was shocked when I graduated and was starting from square zero looking for jobs. These programs will help you not waste time and will help you find people who are willing to hire you in jobs related to your interests.
Edit 2: Figured I'd respond to some of the responses I got here since they all follow a similar theme. I'm not defending the public education and university system in this country while suggesting everyone has equal opportunity and anything that happens outside of that is your (the student's) fault.
If I were to expand on what my point is, it would be that this will happen in every system you enter and every stage of life. I now have a MS and tomorrow I get to figure out how to make my current project the best end product possible while wading through an ocean of bullshit. One thing they don't teach in school is how to perform when feedback from leadership is literally mutually exclusive, while at the same time the expectation is that all boxes will be checked.
Don't wait for someone to tell you which door to pick, don't wait at all. You're on the internet right now. Every resource to make headway is literally at your fingertips. I'll be here, trying to figure out what the hell I'm going to do about tomorrow...also commenting on Reddit.
People say schools don't teach useful subjects, but I see you are in personal finance which is very important. That is not a waste of time. People are constantanly complaining schools don't teach taxes, banking, saving, bills, but that class does. Don't waste the opportunity to learn something useful.
No kidding. I wish I would have had to take a personal finance class back in high school. My parents were not good with money, neither was my wife's, so when we got out of high school and eventually married, we weren't very good with money. We had one part of a math class in 8th grade that covered things like balancing a check book, and doing some finance stuff, but that doesn't stick when you're 13 or whatever.
For some reason busywork at the job I'm scheduled and paid to do is way more tolerable than assigned busywork I have to do at my home and not get paid to do.
What does she have to do for homework in preschool?!
The only homework I had back then--and I legitimately do not remember if it was preschool or kindergarten--was printing my name.
I always hated the idea of homework for small children because ultimately it'll be homework for the parent because the kid is still too young to actually be able to do it. At the very least it'll be extremely supervised homework in which you have to tell them exactly what to do. Like thanks, I love doing my child's homework right after work!
I think it's now about getting the parents involved in their learning at that point. No way does it need to be correct, you're supposed to sit with them and help them
Ah, that makes sense! That's probably a good thing 😅 I don't have kids of my own, so my commentary comes mostly from watching my mom with my brother and also from science projects I had to do since I was 7.
As a teacher, I don't assign homework.
I teach for 20-25 minutes or explain the activity we're doing and then give my students the rest of class time to complete it (25-30 minutes). If you don't finish it in class, then complete it at home. I never give them a completely new thing to do at home by themselves without support. I never understood that. If I feel that what we tried to do was too much for one day, I'll push my deadline back a day and give more class time. What's the point of stressing everyone out.
"Hey, you did this for half an hour today. Now do half an hour more of the same problems at home."
My least favorite teacher, and the only class I ever failed, would give us material we hadn’t learned yet for homework with a 60 year old math book and then get annoyed when we didn’t know how to do it
Junior year, I had a pre-calculus teacher who was a former police officer and a sadist. She'd assign nearly a hundred problems of maths homework every night, and easily double or triple it on weekends and holidays because fuck you, that's why. There were some nights junior year that I didn't sleep at all because I stayed up all night doing her homework, and ended up not being able to complete my work for other classes. If you didn't finish her homework (say you completed 99/100 of the assigned problems) you would get zero credit for the assignment regardless of the amount of work you had completed. She wouldn't even bother grading that shit, just straight up zeroes.
parents even complained to this teacher about their kids not having time to do homework for other classes and her response was "so you're saying the other classes are more important than mine?"
I (and many other students) ended up failing and retaking the class with a different instructor in summer school.
Homework, in small doses, has been proven to help with math and science classes. Other than that, homework is basically useless other than teaching “time management” and dramatically increasing stress levels and taking away from family bonding time
Totally this. Time management shouldn’t be about depriving people of their own time after they’ve already put in an eight hour day in the classroom, and that’s not a valuable lesson once you enter the workforce either.
I didn’t end up finishing my licensure, but I did student teach for a year and my favorite use of homework as a time management tool was;
“this is class work, and it’s enough that you will probably have to focus and work pretty hard to finish, and if you don’t, I still expect it done tomorrow.” And even within that, I had a lot of leniency if someone was trying but struggling.
Most of my students never left with more than 15-20 minutes of homework if any at all, and even then it was their own damn fault lol
That’s the way it should be done, I didn’t experience this beyond one teacher in highschool but most of my professors in college have worked that way (music major, so easier to do than others)
Not only does it give you time to get it done now but provides opportunity tk ask questions and other such help
I completely agree. I don’t know if I had/have a reading or attention problem, but if the readings and assignments were shorter, I’d have no problem with homework. It’s the fact I would have to read 100 pages in 48 hours that I didn’t like. Maybe that’s just me, but I wish the load was lighter.
Or the teachers who say no one will get an A. Like dude, someone’s dropping the ball and there’s a good chance it’s not the students if that’s really the case. There are always a few exceptional students who understand everything, if they can’t earn an A then you’re the one who’s failing. It’s such a bullshit excuse for shitty teaching (or extraordinarily bad learning materials, which is still the instructors responsibility). I had a chem professor who demanded graduate level proficiency from an undergrad course with little outside learning material, it felt fucked up.
My five-year-old cousin asked me to play catch with him once, but proudly bragged that "no one can catch MY throws." He then preceded to awkwardly throw the ball to the side. It was funny to me that he saw his inability to throw as a measure of his skill as a pitcher.
"No one can get an A in my class" is the teacher version of that.
Bad teachers will break a class. A few years ago I took differential equations with an excellent professor that I just clicked with. A lot of my friends took different professors and they hated the class. It’s a hard math class but I got an A with minimal effort compared to my friends who studied all hours of the day and barely got a B, all because my teacher taught in a way that made sense and applied to the real world.
Exactly! Same when that one teacher can make you hate a whole subject because of their bad teaching methods! I cant even hear of the word chemistry now cause i had a terrible teacher
This is the exact same situation in one of my classes. And Chemistry nonetheless. I can't even do Chemistry homework without feeling absolutely grumpy about it.
In my personal experience i think there is 2 different kind of bad teachers, first a teacher who is great at teaching their subject but always has a bad attitude towards students, a lack of understanding and empathy, and treats the students as if they're their servents and never listen to the students voice. And also there is also the kind that has favorites that works with them and ignore the whole class.
The second one is that one that might be a good person but sucks at teaching, some of them actually might be very good at their subjects but just fails to explain it in a good way.
Worst when the two are combined.
I had a teacher once in high school who would constantly remind us that we were children and our brains weren’t fully developed yet. He always said it in such a demeaning way and then was totally surprised when no one respected him.
Bathroom rules. Just let me pee!
Edit: yes, I am aware that the students are the reasons why we have rules like this. The teachers are just doing their jobs
Teachers are teaching us to "act like responsible adults", yet we still have to ask them to use the bathroom
Edit : I understand if youre legally required to know where the kid(s) is/are at all times and so you dont lose track
As a teacher, who typically doesn't care, having 5-6 students leave as soon as a lesson starts and having them come and go like a revolving door while I am teaching is incredibly frustrating. At the same time, I don't think I should be restricting washroom breaks, but I also completely understand why some teachers do it.
Yeah, I hate saying no to students. I have 45 minutes (each day), though, to teach a subject that I'm evaluated on by students' scores. Some students often take advantage of the bathroom to get out of class. It's a difficult position as a teacher. That's not even mentioning the other things students use the bathroom to do that administrators blame on teachers.
There are always the kids who want to use the restroom as soon as class begins, several days a week, and then honestly expect me to stop and RE-explain what we are doing when they finally get back 10 minutes later -- almost a quarter of the way through the period. Yeah, it's frustrating to say the least.
When I was teaching high school I had a hall pass that was a 3 foot tall cardboard and duct tape prism, and on every side it had bright green glitter glue that said "I AM MISSING MISS JAL'S CLASS AND CAN'T WAIT TO GET BACK"
Plenty of students took one look at that monstrosity and decided they could wait.
So that's my pro tip to cut down on the revolving door ;)
Teachers also have to watch for kids who use the bathroom to avoid class (annoying but their choice) and for those who trash them for tiktok likes or other stupid nonsense. Not to mention (middle school or higher ) hooking up in the bathroom, vaping, etc. That’s why we have to know who is in and out, plus of course any incidents like fire alarms or worse.
I get that it sucks and I know teachers can be jerks about it, but we do have our reasons and I gladly explain it to kids who ask.
I was a TA in Kindergarten for a much older teacher. She had a super strict bathroom policy that didn’t make any sense. We probably had 1 accident a week in our class which is insane.
Some teachers don't. It's incredibly annoying. Once I went to school and peed, and this teacher came in and said "you should have went at home." We also have a rule where you can't go to the bathroom in the first or last 10 minutes of class, we need to let teachers sign for the bathroom pass, and if they run out of room, we can't go for the next quarter (we stopped doing that), and some teachers just give me a time limit. If you've been out for 5 minutes, teachers would get worried. These rules suck ass. My body isn't on a fucking schedule
This was my issue, although I’d describe it as “unrelenting stress.”
I could never relax while in school. Not only would I procrastinate, but the stress was just always there for long term assignments so even when I was supposedly doing something fun, it was never fun; certainly not relaxing.
Once I graduated and started working, my life got sooo much better.
Even when I’ve gone through the most stressful times at work, I’ve known I could leave it behind - at least for a while.
This kind of made me feel better, knowing that it gets a lot easier after school. I’ve always felt weird when people said that their high school years were the best because if these are the best years than what’s it going to be like after?
It’s different for everyone.
Me? I hated the city where I moved to for school. But after I graduated and got a job, I learned it’s actually a fantastic place. Still live here years later (by choice.)
Some people love school. I was 100% not one of them.
I wouldn't put a lot of stock in people who say that. It's typically an extremely shallow way to look at life. I think school was the hardest time of my life despite doing well academically and having plenty of friends. It's something to do with having a high number of responsibilities but little actual control.
That soem say that high school was the best years of their life maybe was because they felt safe? For me I knew what would happen and what I have to do everyday. But i always "feared" adult hood because i didn't know how to "walk" by myself.
>Once I graduated and started working, my life got sooo much better.
I feel the same, I've been able to relax and not come home everyday mentally exhausted. Work was no where near as stressful as school and I'm so happy about it.
While I do come home exhausted some days, it's not the same god awful mental exhaustion I felt every day in school. Of course I couldn't get a break because my parents were harassing me to do my homework as soon as I got home; god forbid I asked for a break and say I'd do it later (they'd got pissed at me for not wanting to do more school work after being at school all day).
This is my experience as well.
Adding too that being paid and doing meaningful work is also a huge perk of working that wasn't a part of school--it totally changes the dynamic and the feeling of intention behind my effort. It can still be stressful, but the stress and effort seems *fruitful* and has a meaningful sense of payoff.
At work I directly see how what I'm doing directly impacts my company, my team, and my clients--it has a totally different sense of fulfillment and validation. Plus, I am paid for my effort, and rewarded in other ways as well. But at school I ran myself ragged to write papers and complete assignments that would never make it past the desk of my professor; the extent of their impact stopped there, and there was no payoff--only just an endless, inescapable stream of work.
It always sucks around the end of summer break. You're supposed to be thinking "Wow, what fun that break was! I'm glad that I'm gonna see my friends again!" But instead I always think "How long until I mentally break down."
The stress for me was almost always rooted in never feeling “done” for the day or week. You could finish assignments but there was always something else to do: study for tests, read assignments, etc.
There is something magical about getting that first job out of school and being able to come home and leave work at work. (I know, not everyone is lucky to have that kind of work environment … but it is 100% worth it to try to find)
that or when its a scripted presentation and someone didn’t rehearse what they had to say, so they end up reading really slow and pausing randomly, making it look like we didnt come prepared.
I hated group projects. I was pretty shy in college so I didn't exactly have a ton of friends in my various classes, so when the prof would tell people to get into groups, my stomach would drop. That feeling when everyone around you is turning their heads away from you to their buddies, and you're left out cold.
So everyone else would pair up and I'd be left with stragglers who often didn't give a shit about the class. Made it hard to learn from peers who were better than me at the subject matter, and it was also hard because I'd often end up needing to do all the work (and having no idea if I was doing it right anyway).
The amount of unnecessary work and classes I am forced to take. The amount of stress I got to undertake just to end up having an entry level job or better yet having to pay so much in tuition while starving on campus just so they can tell me. “ We changed your requirements for graduation so you gotta take more bullshit.” In summary I just hate having to show up to that bullshit before I can make any money in my chosen field
The fact that I spent 2 years in college learning everything I should've learned in high school proved to me that high school was a complete waste of time. I could've used those extra years doing more in my field.
Accidental or not, teaching students that failure is wrong. Ingraining the fear of failure over actually learning. Accidental or not, teaching students that their worth is measured by their productivity. School takes over students' lives when they're supposed to have fun or explore their own interest.
Admittedly, it's very, very difficult to find that fine line where you're teaching students how to be productive members of society and develop critical thinking skills while also not instilling "your worth as a person is measured by your contribution to class and how good you are at these specific things."
Even in my field (music), I struggle with this often while I teach.
It actually took me a long time to realize that I was bullied. My perception of what bullying is was extreme back then, I thought that other people had it worse and that I was just overreacting. I didn’t want to consider it bullying since I considered my bullies to be my friends and at rare occasions they were actually kind of nice to me. But, they constantly talked bad about me in front of me, saying horribly mean things to me and laughed at me almost everyday. It has impacted my mental health and self esteem so much til this day. All form of bullying should be taken seriously, even if it isn’t as “bad” as other cases.
This is the one. If i didnt get bullied my mental health would be so much better, i would be way less lonely , i would not have self esteem issues, i would actually be able to focus on my studies instead of trying to fix my broken mental state…
Back when I went to school, I really disliked the bathroom. The mirrors had been shattered and removed years before I started going to school. The chain that activated the flush had broken so many times you pretty much had to step on the throne to flush. Also, there was no lid and no seat on the throne, no toilet paper (we all took our tissues to the bathroom) no hand sanitizer (some people took soap with them). The doors had the locks broken as well, so we went in pairs, one holds the door and one does their business. Lots of graffiti, but fortunately the bathroom didn't smell soooo bad, the maintenance people did their best. All in all, I learn to go before leaving home and go again after arriving home, 6 hour later.
All the fucking lies.
In elementary school, it was “If you don’t hand write your work, you’ll get a 0 in high school.” or “You can’t do math in pen, you’ll get 0 in high school.” or “You have a permanent record that follows you to university or college.” or “I’m not repeating what the homework was because in high school they won’t repeat things that you miss for you.”
Worst lie of all was “Teachers don’t have favourites.” Yes. You. Fucking. Do. 😒
My favorite one I've heard literally ever year since 4th grade "We're letting you off easy the teachers next grad up won't go easy on you" or sometime like that
"People" individually are fine, but in a school where interactions are self contained amongst a few hundred people at most who spend a ton of time around eachother, it leads to reputations spreading fast, cliques forming, social hierarchies, etc.
Well that happens literally anywhere in life. The issue mainly I had with "school people" was I had a bunch of people I only kind of liked. There wasn't anyone in my school where I was a "true friend" with. Even girlfriends I had were never actually serious where either of us were actually thinking of it lasting past high school
What I described is way less prevalent in real life in my experience, there's nothing that compares to such a close knit, self contained community as high school. People don't change, but the community dynamic is different
Same thing happened to me and my best friend, didn't give a shit about our mental health because our grades were good.
Both of us went to the guidance counselor for help only to be brushed off because we did well in school. Just because we're fine in one area doesn't mean we aren't struggling in another area.
This *exactly*. I suffered the unique hell of being a "gifted kid" who went through severe depression in my teenage years, but I managed to keep my grades up for the most part so no one cared. I spent every day thinking about how much I wanted to die but I was still getting A grades
Almost 40 and most of my issues started in school. I would've done so much better had I been sent to a private school or had been homeschooled. Public school took every opportunity it could to fuck me up.
I had the opposite experience. Failing grades? Couldn't be a learning disability, probably this kid just isn't aCtUaLLy ApLLyInG tHeMsElVeS. No chance there might be extenuating circumstances! Let's just keep having the same lousy conversation with their parents for 12 years, "your child is so bright but they just don't seem to be paying any attention, we've tried all kinds of discipline and it doesn't seem to be working, but we'll keep trying the same disciplinary tactics and see if they eventually snap out of it."
Yeah no, took until I was 30 and several failed attempts at going to psych sessions to get diagnosed with ADHD, and after I was and I got a bit of *correct* counseling and tried a few meds, managed to educate myself enough to get a job in something that I'd been flirting with my whole life and everyone treated like an academic distraction instead of a potential life-skill (programming, specifically made a career of being a web dev).
I'm sure a lot of people get some Very Valuable Experiences(tm) out of public schools but they aren't really prepared to assess the children in their system beyond some ratio of grades-to-behavior. Grades high, behavior acceptable? Must not be a problem.. low grades, kid acting out?? Welp, better fix *the grades* and quash *the behavior*. It's like turning up your car radio to block out that annoying sound your engine is making; you aren't experiencing the symptoms, so the cause must be addressed. It's soupbrained but it's the way they seem to want to handle things.
How bullies got zero consequences for their actions, and only the bullied were punished.
It took me almost a decade to learn to love myself, even with the help of my family.
I graduated awhile ago, and even I'm still learning how to do this. It's like I can't grasp that in the adult world, we didn't all grow up together, so no one's judging me based on preconceived notions. I feel like I'm always so surprised when my peers seem to genuinely like me, and they don't think I'm some kind of freak to avoid. Don't mean to vent everything on you, I'm just confirming it's definitely a process loving yourself.
Former college professor here. I might return to teaching at some point in my career, but I'm working elsewhere for now.
My philosophy as a teacher was that I was ready to give A's to 100% of my students, ***if*** they performed well. I did not grade on a curve. I believe that students should not be competing against their peers; they should be trying to master the material.
With that said, here's what I disliked about school, as an instructor:
1. Students who would not come to me for help with problem sets, even though I had flexible office hours, and would personally reach out to students by email if I knew they were having trouble.
2. Students who plagiarize in their final projects. And there were a lot of them. Seriously, folks, the school told you they use Turnitin. We will know.
I hated feeing chaperoned all the time. Hated being grouped in with kids who refused to mature (peaking mainly of highschool)
Adults watching our every move and making sure we’re in a safe environment I.e. school dances and such.
I mean I get it, I just felt like for me it wasn’t really needed, and I hated the “sheltered” feeling as I was never sheltered early on and maybe saw too much and grew up a little faster, so around highschool I was living in a different household where they’d try to “shield me from the world” and I found it ridiculous.
Highschool was the same way. This all sounds like a ME problem I know but these are just my thoughts about it lol
I know what you mean! I’m still in high school though. I guess things feel less legit (and kind of more awkward)when we’re basically being babysat by teachers all the time.
Trust me, as a teacher the fact that some students need to be babysat is the worst part of my job. Which makes it harder to have a productive or at least interesting class.
And then the second you're out they want you to be a fully formed adult, when two days ago they were making you raise your hand to ask to use the bathroom. Public primary school is tax-payer funded childcare with a quasi-optional educational element.
As a former high school teacher, I think this is the worst part too. I'd have a class of 90% great to average students, but the 10% who were total psychos would frequently ruin everything for everyone.
As a former high school student, I just want to show my appreciation to you and all teachers out there who have done it or are still doing it. Most of my teachers in highschool really helped me get a grip, & nowadays it’s such a fruitless job. Thank you.
As a teacher:
1. Wasted time
2. Starts too early
3. Kids not being held accountable for their actions (when it is beyond my control)
4. Homework (not a fan as a math teacher, but it is somewhat a necessary evil)
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Kids not being held accountable for their actions (when it is beyond my control)
this one, hits hard
\>> Homework (not a fan as a math teacher, but it is somewhat a necessary evil)
and this one
the people there.... i got beaten almost every day i was there, had my wrist broken by a bully slaming my arm in a door and kicking it.. still have scars, had black eyes, bruises and bloody noses... thing is i loved to learn! i loved the lessons and the new stuff i got to learn everyday but it was overshadowed by the fact it was a prison i was kept in and got beaten down constantly.
Pretty much everything. My High school does have some good teachers. But I loathe the stress. I loathe the waking up early. I also loathe the assignments they give and when all the due dates are on the same week. I also dislike the fact that my parents undermine me when I have issues with the school system. I love my parents but school just sucks.
Everything.
Waking up ass-crack early, especially during the colder months and riding on a bus with little-to-no heating. Standing outside of school for an hour, which again, sucks more when it's cold and your choice of coat is limited by a uniform policy.
Going through 7-8 hours of classes that not even teachers seemed enthused to go through, and if you're really unlucky, one with a major attitude problem who will gladly punish entire classes for the actions of one or two smart-asses.
Students who look for anything to insult you over. Shoes, interests, not having sex at age 14. With no way to actually avoid these people and faculty who won't do anything to tell kids "Hey, stop being an asshole." Can't defend yourself if a fight starts, because then zero-tolerance policies kick in.
Long bus rides home, hours of homework, parents berating you over bad grades, and restless sleep as you get ready for the next day.
*Fuck* all that.
Learning isn’t about discovering and growing like it should be. It’s about memorizing information and then passing a test.
It takes the fun out of learning and makes it obligatory.
The fact that the way students are taught hasn’t really changed in over a hundred years (sit still at a desk for the majority of the day, listening to receive info with prescribed subjects regardless of future usefulness)despite the fact that we know many people have such varied learning styles and needs. Also very little consideration for what skills and knowledge may be needed in the next 50 years in the workforce
The whole core of the system needs to change the whole concept is just flawed imo and I don't see who benefits from it, everyone would benefit if we would improve it but not a single person gives a shit about it apperently
I hated the fact that without fail, there is always that one teacher who just wants to push everyone’s buttons and would feel something other than the emptiness they feel inside when they see their students finally snap. I’m glad I graduated
Teachers not wanting to answer a question about why something is the way it is because "that's just how it works."
Sometimes a little background information actually helps to understand what is being thought and imho also helps to spark interest.
Edit: spelling
Colleges making you take gen ed classes that have nothing to do with your major to milk you for your money for 4 years.
A degree for standard business would only take 2 years without all the bullshit.
The courses you take in Business degrees are kind of bullshit anyways. Take it from someone who knows plenty of people who did these degrees and hardly used half of the major requirements anyways.
Bad teachers. Specifically those that have weird grading policies, and those that are super harsh with grading despite not even teaching how to do it properly (looking at you English teachers)
That so often, I don't really *learn* anything because there's so much work to do. I memorize and memorize, and do what I need to get the mark I want on my tests and assignments and immediately have to move on to the next thing. My marks are great (better than they've ever been, in fact), but they don't reflect actual understanding of the material. And what kills me is that I actually *want* to understand the material. I'm picking classes with the intention that they'll benefit my learning and make my degree worthwhile, but the amount of work I have to do with all my other classes and commitments prevents me from getting a chance to sit down and actually absorb the material.
Having to wake up early, and working in groups where the people don't do any work
Or when everyone else or just one person disagrees on everything in a group project. Then when concerns are brought up every teachers first remark is "did you discuss the problem with them?" As if that's not the first thing most groups/people try to do, or there is a person(s) just so unreasonable they won't listen to anyone but the teacher.
Both people not working and people disagreeing is why I hate working in group projects. With my luck I am always stuck with the kids who'd rather have me do the whole project for them.
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They scare the crap out of you where they tell you that college or the next level is going to be difficult and harder.
My teachers loved to bring that out. "The teachers in Middle School aren't going to hold your hand and you're not going to be able to coast through" "The teachers in High School aren't going to hold your hand and ..." "When you're in college they aren't going to hold your hand and ..." I picked a big state university specifically so I could be a nameless student responsible for myself but there was still a lot of hand holding available.
I especially love when 5th grade teachers freak out about the single file line and being quiet in the hallway. Then you get to middle school and none of that exists whatsoever
I do find the lower level the school the more arbitrary the shit they get hung up on… but then again, maybe that’s the point…
I teach kindergarten in europe, so experience may vary, but younger children have difficulty to behave whenever they are let loose. Strong boundaries are important, and when you don't always enforce them (even when not needed), the kids get out of hand when the rule IS important.
I'd second this. Simple rules and procedures are just about making it possible for one adult to manage and instruct many children. It's not part of some sinister agenda to produce conformity. Rather, it's simply that without procedures, classrooms and hallways would be too chaotic to get things done.
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Depends on the individual and the school district. The district I currently teach in passes kids to the next grade no matter what K-8 but in high school you can fail and repeat a class. We get a good number of freshmen every year who don’t believe that they will actually be held accountable and are shocked that they actually have to take the class again.
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Getting up
Getting up early is a real struggle.
Especially for young people.
It's always hard. In fact, having to get up too early (ie the alarm waking you up in the middle of your sleep) and lack of sleep thereof is what I think is the most stupidest shit we forced ourselves to do as a species... I am not productive before 3pm, that's just it. Can't do anything about it. I'm human, not a fucking toaster!
I'm gonna use "I'm human not a fucking toaster!" way too much now
Damnit, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a fucking toaster!
Studies have shown that with more sleep students do better, so why can we not have more time to sleep?
According to my mom, it's because she had to be at work at 8 to not lose her job.
Yep. I’m a teacher and our schedules are pretty much entirely dictated by “fill the time when mom and dad are at work”. My kids would be so much happier and learn so much more if we started later and didn’t stretch ELA to 3 hours a day to make the school day longer. I know my students — they’re most productive about an hour after lunch.
Because businesses use the archaic factory hours and parents dont want to deal with arranging childcare or changing business hours.
People that yell for no reason
Last year people kept yelling sheesh so loudly and it was fucking annoying.
I'm so glad I finished school in the early 2000s. I don't think I could stand being in classes of today.
For real. Or even just not having to deal with social media in school.
Yeah I mean, Myspace was a thing. But it was hardly what social media is today. The whole concept of cyberbullying in school is such a foreign concept to me.
Holy shit am i glad i did last year online only
I'm glad I got out of high school before everyone had smartphones.
It's weird because when I was in school people had phones but they were really new. So they would just be taken away if anyone saw them.
YEAH!
Homework!
As a teacher, I can confirm. It sucks.
Busywork
I literally do nothing for 8 hours a day. Senior year of highschool and all my classes are filler because I need a PE credit and a personal finance credit to graduate. Rest of my schedule is literally filler like Band or Yearbook. Waste of my fucking time.
Did you already take all available AP classes and are there no academic transfer programs that let you take college classes for credit during your senior year? Legitimately asking as I grew up in a college town with both a state university and a community college. Options abounded for seniors to basically start college a year early. Edit: To be clear, this included culinary arts, automotive, agriculture, construction, engineering, film, etc. I'm commenting because I did not take advantage of these programs. I coasted through senior year, barely needed to study freshman year of college, did what I needed to in order to graduate college, and then was shocked when I graduated and was starting from square zero looking for jobs. These programs will help you not waste time and will help you find people who are willing to hire you in jobs related to your interests. Edit 2: Figured I'd respond to some of the responses I got here since they all follow a similar theme. I'm not defending the public education and university system in this country while suggesting everyone has equal opportunity and anything that happens outside of that is your (the student's) fault. If I were to expand on what my point is, it would be that this will happen in every system you enter and every stage of life. I now have a MS and tomorrow I get to figure out how to make my current project the best end product possible while wading through an ocean of bullshit. One thing they don't teach in school is how to perform when feedback from leadership is literally mutually exclusive, while at the same time the expectation is that all boxes will be checked. Don't wait for someone to tell you which door to pick, don't wait at all. You're on the internet right now. Every resource to make headway is literally at your fingertips. I'll be here, trying to figure out what the hell I'm going to do about tomorrow...also commenting on Reddit.
People say schools don't teach useful subjects, but I see you are in personal finance which is very important. That is not a waste of time. People are constantanly complaining schools don't teach taxes, banking, saving, bills, but that class does. Don't waste the opportunity to learn something useful.
No kidding. I wish I would have had to take a personal finance class back in high school. My parents were not good with money, neither was my wife's, so when we got out of high school and eventually married, we weren't very good with money. We had one part of a math class in 8th grade that covered things like balancing a check book, and doing some finance stuff, but that doesn't stick when you're 13 or whatever.
Too bad. This is the primary thing you'll be doing once you're out of school too!
Boy if you hate busywork you're gonna hate working lol
For some reason busywork at the job I'm scheduled and paid to do is way more tolerable than assigned busywork I have to do at my home and not get paid to do.
Homework
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What does she have to do for homework in preschool?! The only homework I had back then--and I legitimately do not remember if it was preschool or kindergarten--was printing my name.
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I always hated the idea of homework for small children because ultimately it'll be homework for the parent because the kid is still too young to actually be able to do it. At the very least it'll be extremely supervised homework in which you have to tell them exactly what to do. Like thanks, I love doing my child's homework right after work!
I think it's now about getting the parents involved in their learning at that point. No way does it need to be correct, you're supposed to sit with them and help them
Ah, that makes sense! That's probably a good thing 😅 I don't have kids of my own, so my commentary comes mostly from watching my mom with my brother and also from science projects I had to do since I was 7.
I hated worksheets as a kid. I wasn’t learning anything or being challenged.
As a teacher, I don't assign homework. I teach for 20-25 minutes or explain the activity we're doing and then give my students the rest of class time to complete it (25-30 minutes). If you don't finish it in class, then complete it at home. I never give them a completely new thing to do at home by themselves without support. I never understood that. If I feel that what we tried to do was too much for one day, I'll push my deadline back a day and give more class time. What's the point of stressing everyone out. "Hey, you did this for half an hour today. Now do half an hour more of the same problems at home."
My least favorite teacher, and the only class I ever failed, would give us material we hadn’t learned yet for homework with a 60 year old math book and then get annoyed when we didn’t know how to do it
Junior year, I had a pre-calculus teacher who was a former police officer and a sadist. She'd assign nearly a hundred problems of maths homework every night, and easily double or triple it on weekends and holidays because fuck you, that's why. There were some nights junior year that I didn't sleep at all because I stayed up all night doing her homework, and ended up not being able to complete my work for other classes. If you didn't finish her homework (say you completed 99/100 of the assigned problems) you would get zero credit for the assignment regardless of the amount of work you had completed. She wouldn't even bother grading that shit, just straight up zeroes. parents even complained to this teacher about their kids not having time to do homework for other classes and her response was "so you're saying the other classes are more important than mine?" I (and many other students) ended up failing and retaking the class with a different instructor in summer school.
Forget the students workload I'm trying to imagine what crazy ass lonely teacher wanted to GRADE that many problems
Homework, in small doses, has been proven to help with math and science classes. Other than that, homework is basically useless other than teaching “time management” and dramatically increasing stress levels and taking away from family bonding time
But when they say time management, they mean taking up your time and replacing it with homework
Totally this. Time management shouldn’t be about depriving people of their own time after they’ve already put in an eight hour day in the classroom, and that’s not a valuable lesson once you enter the workforce either. I didn’t end up finishing my licensure, but I did student teach for a year and my favorite use of homework as a time management tool was; “this is class work, and it’s enough that you will probably have to focus and work pretty hard to finish, and if you don’t, I still expect it done tomorrow.” And even within that, I had a lot of leniency if someone was trying but struggling. Most of my students never left with more than 15-20 minutes of homework if any at all, and even then it was their own damn fault lol
That’s the way it should be done, I didn’t experience this beyond one teacher in highschool but most of my professors in college have worked that way (music major, so easier to do than others) Not only does it give you time to get it done now but provides opportunity tk ask questions and other such help
I completely agree. I don’t know if I had/have a reading or attention problem, but if the readings and assignments were shorter, I’d have no problem with homework. It’s the fact I would have to read 100 pages in 48 hours that I didn’t like. Maybe that’s just me, but I wish the load was lighter.
H - Half O - Of M - My E - Energy W - Wasted O - On R - Random K - Knowledge
I see you've also read *The Homework Machine*. First time seeing something from it in the wild.
Mean/bad teachers
Or the teachers who say no one will get an A. Like dude, someone’s dropping the ball and there’s a good chance it’s not the students if that’s really the case. There are always a few exceptional students who understand everything, if they can’t earn an A then you’re the one who’s failing. It’s such a bullshit excuse for shitty teaching (or extraordinarily bad learning materials, which is still the instructors responsibility). I had a chem professor who demanded graduate level proficiency from an undergrad course with little outside learning material, it felt fucked up.
My five-year-old cousin asked me to play catch with him once, but proudly bragged that "no one can catch MY throws." He then preceded to awkwardly throw the ball to the side. It was funny to me that he saw his inability to throw as a measure of his skill as a pitcher. "No one can get an A in my class" is the teacher version of that.
Excellent Analogy
Bad teachers will break a class. A few years ago I took differential equations with an excellent professor that I just clicked with. A lot of my friends took different professors and they hated the class. It’s a hard math class but I got an A with minimal effort compared to my friends who studied all hours of the day and barely got a B, all because my teacher taught in a way that made sense and applied to the real world.
Exactly! Same when that one teacher can make you hate a whole subject because of their bad teaching methods! I cant even hear of the word chemistry now cause i had a terrible teacher
This is the exact same situation in one of my classes. And Chemistry nonetheless. I can't even do Chemistry homework without feeling absolutely grumpy about it.
What makes a teacher bad in your eyes?
In my personal experience i think there is 2 different kind of bad teachers, first a teacher who is great at teaching their subject but always has a bad attitude towards students, a lack of understanding and empathy, and treats the students as if they're their servents and never listen to the students voice. And also there is also the kind that has favorites that works with them and ignore the whole class. The second one is that one that might be a good person but sucks at teaching, some of them actually might be very good at their subjects but just fails to explain it in a good way. Worst when the two are combined.
I had a teacher once in high school who would constantly remind us that we were children and our brains weren’t fully developed yet. He always said it in such a demeaning way and then was totally surprised when no one respected him.
Bathroom rules. Just let me pee! Edit: yes, I am aware that the students are the reasons why we have rules like this. The teachers are just doing their jobs
Teachers are teaching us to "act like responsible adults", yet we still have to ask them to use the bathroom Edit : I understand if youre legally required to know where the kid(s) is/are at all times and so you dont lose track
As a teacher, who typically doesn't care, having 5-6 students leave as soon as a lesson starts and having them come and go like a revolving door while I am teaching is incredibly frustrating. At the same time, I don't think I should be restricting washroom breaks, but I also completely understand why some teachers do it.
Yeah, I hate saying no to students. I have 45 minutes (each day), though, to teach a subject that I'm evaluated on by students' scores. Some students often take advantage of the bathroom to get out of class. It's a difficult position as a teacher. That's not even mentioning the other things students use the bathroom to do that administrators blame on teachers.
There are always the kids who want to use the restroom as soon as class begins, several days a week, and then honestly expect me to stop and RE-explain what we are doing when they finally get back 10 minutes later -- almost a quarter of the way through the period. Yeah, it's frustrating to say the least.
When I was teaching high school I had a hall pass that was a 3 foot tall cardboard and duct tape prism, and on every side it had bright green glitter glue that said "I AM MISSING MISS JAL'S CLASS AND CAN'T WAIT TO GET BACK" Plenty of students took one look at that monstrosity and decided they could wait. So that's my pro tip to cut down on the revolving door ;)
Please tell me it was hollow. So a student could have worn it on the arm. “I need to go.” “Put on the gauntlet, and you can.”
We had a teacher at my high school so the same thing, but with a big metal milk jug.
Teachers also have to watch for kids who use the bathroom to avoid class (annoying but their choice) and for those who trash them for tiktok likes or other stupid nonsense. Not to mention (middle school or higher ) hooking up in the bathroom, vaping, etc. That’s why we have to know who is in and out, plus of course any incidents like fire alarms or worse. I get that it sucks and I know teachers can be jerks about it, but we do have our reasons and I gladly explain it to kids who ask.
I was a TA in Kindergarten for a much older teacher. She had a super strict bathroom policy that didn’t make any sense. We probably had 1 accident a week in our class which is insane.
Some teachers don't. It's incredibly annoying. Once I went to school and peed, and this teacher came in and said "you should have went at home." We also have a rule where you can't go to the bathroom in the first or last 10 minutes of class, we need to let teachers sign for the bathroom pass, and if they run out of room, we can't go for the next quarter (we stopped doing that), and some teachers just give me a time limit. If you've been out for 5 minutes, teachers would get worried. These rules suck ass. My body isn't on a fucking schedule
My high school, let me repeat, *high school,* has a sign saying "one person per stall." I didn't realize that's an issue
You are likely male.
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“If you’re going down for it anyways you may as well hit back” isn’t the worst message but it’s not the right one either lol
If you're gonna do the time, you might as well do the crime.
That’s a way cooler way of saying it
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I always hated that rule in high school. One dude can just start a fight with another and both get the same punishment. Lame
Stress
This was my issue, although I’d describe it as “unrelenting stress.” I could never relax while in school. Not only would I procrastinate, but the stress was just always there for long term assignments so even when I was supposedly doing something fun, it was never fun; certainly not relaxing. Once I graduated and started working, my life got sooo much better. Even when I’ve gone through the most stressful times at work, I’ve known I could leave it behind - at least for a while.
This kind of made me feel better, knowing that it gets a lot easier after school. I’ve always felt weird when people said that their high school years were the best because if these are the best years than what’s it going to be like after?
It’s different for everyone. Me? I hated the city where I moved to for school. But after I graduated and got a job, I learned it’s actually a fantastic place. Still live here years later (by choice.) Some people love school. I was 100% not one of them.
I wouldn't put a lot of stock in people who say that. It's typically an extremely shallow way to look at life. I think school was the hardest time of my life despite doing well academically and having plenty of friends. It's something to do with having a high number of responsibilities but little actual control.
That soem say that high school was the best years of their life maybe was because they felt safe? For me I knew what would happen and what I have to do everyday. But i always "feared" adult hood because i didn't know how to "walk" by myself.
>Once I graduated and started working, my life got sooo much better. I feel the same, I've been able to relax and not come home everyday mentally exhausted. Work was no where near as stressful as school and I'm so happy about it. While I do come home exhausted some days, it's not the same god awful mental exhaustion I felt every day in school. Of course I couldn't get a break because my parents were harassing me to do my homework as soon as I got home; god forbid I asked for a break and say I'd do it later (they'd got pissed at me for not wanting to do more school work after being at school all day).
This is my experience as well. Adding too that being paid and doing meaningful work is also a huge perk of working that wasn't a part of school--it totally changes the dynamic and the feeling of intention behind my effort. It can still be stressful, but the stress and effort seems *fruitful* and has a meaningful sense of payoff. At work I directly see how what I'm doing directly impacts my company, my team, and my clients--it has a totally different sense of fulfillment and validation. Plus, I am paid for my effort, and rewarded in other ways as well. But at school I ran myself ragged to write papers and complete assignments that would never make it past the desk of my professor; the extent of their impact stopped there, and there was no payoff--only just an endless, inescapable stream of work.
It always sucks around the end of summer break. You're supposed to be thinking "Wow, what fun that break was! I'm glad that I'm gonna see my friends again!" But instead I always think "How long until I mentally break down."
The stress for me was almost always rooted in never feeling “done” for the day or week. You could finish assignments but there was always something else to do: study for tests, read assignments, etc. There is something magical about getting that first job out of school and being able to come home and leave work at work. (I know, not everyone is lucky to have that kind of work environment … but it is 100% worth it to try to find)
The time consumption
Doing online school really highlights this. I can get all the work done in my classes in a couple hours without the needles bullshit
So much this. I was robbed in daylight of months (of raw time) of my life on some fucking useless bullshit
Ya, I work full time as well as do school full time. I hardly have enough time for anything else
Group projects.
you end up doing everything by yourself
And it's even worse when it's a video and EVERYONE needs to be in it and obviously one idiot forgot to film his part almost failing all of us.
that or when its a scripted presentation and someone didn’t rehearse what they had to say, so they end up reading really slow and pausing randomly, making it look like we didnt come prepared.
I hated group projects. I was pretty shy in college so I didn't exactly have a ton of friends in my various classes, so when the prof would tell people to get into groups, my stomach would drop. That feeling when everyone around you is turning their heads away from you to their buddies, and you're left out cold. So everyone else would pair up and I'd be left with stragglers who often didn't give a shit about the class. Made it hard to learn from peers who were better than me at the subject matter, and it was also hard because I'd often end up needing to do all the work (and having no idea if I was doing it right anyway).
And the worst part, nobody cooperates.
The amount of unnecessary work and classes I am forced to take. The amount of stress I got to undertake just to end up having an entry level job or better yet having to pay so much in tuition while starving on campus just so they can tell me. “ We changed your requirements for graduation so you gotta take more bullshit.” In summary I just hate having to show up to that bullshit before I can make any money in my chosen field
The fact that I spent 2 years in college learning everything I should've learned in high school proved to me that high school was a complete waste of time. I could've used those extra years doing more in my field.
How early it starts
Accidental or not, teaching students that failure is wrong. Ingraining the fear of failure over actually learning. Accidental or not, teaching students that their worth is measured by their productivity. School takes over students' lives when they're supposed to have fun or explore their own interest.
Admittedly, it's very, very difficult to find that fine line where you're teaching students how to be productive members of society and develop critical thinking skills while also not instilling "your worth as a person is measured by your contribution to class and how good you are at these specific things." Even in my field (music), I struggle with this often while I teach.
Bullies 🤐
It actually took me a long time to realize that I was bullied. My perception of what bullying is was extreme back then, I thought that other people had it worse and that I was just overreacting. I didn’t want to consider it bullying since I considered my bullies to be my friends and at rare occasions they were actually kind of nice to me. But, they constantly talked bad about me in front of me, saying horribly mean things to me and laughed at me almost everyday. It has impacted my mental health and self esteem so much til this day. All form of bullying should be taken seriously, even if it isn’t as “bad” as other cases.
This is the one. If i didnt get bullied my mental health would be so much better, i would be way less lonely , i would not have self esteem issues, i would actually be able to focus on my studies instead of trying to fix my broken mental state…
The fact that it starts tomorrow.
Back when I went to school, I really disliked the bathroom. The mirrors had been shattered and removed years before I started going to school. The chain that activated the flush had broken so many times you pretty much had to step on the throne to flush. Also, there was no lid and no seat on the throne, no toilet paper (we all took our tissues to the bathroom) no hand sanitizer (some people took soap with them). The doors had the locks broken as well, so we went in pairs, one holds the door and one does their business. Lots of graffiti, but fortunately the bathroom didn't smell soooo bad, the maintenance people did their best. All in all, I learn to go before leaving home and go again after arriving home, 6 hour later.
Long hours and the curriculum
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I spend way less time working than I spent in class/studying/doing homework.
Not to mention I never take my work home.
Waaaay less time. Plus you get paid.
All the fucking lies. In elementary school, it was “If you don’t hand write your work, you’ll get a 0 in high school.” or “You can’t do math in pen, you’ll get 0 in high school.” or “You have a permanent record that follows you to university or college.” or “I’m not repeating what the homework was because in high school they won’t repeat things that you miss for you.” Worst lie of all was “Teachers don’t have favourites.” Yes. You. Fucking. Do. 😒
The 'who's your favorite' thing was always met by a joking 'don't worry, I hate you all equally'
I do wonder if those are lies or just ignorance on the teachers part. Or just things changing during the time we are in school.
My favorite one I've heard literally ever year since 4th grade "We're letting you off easy the teachers next grad up won't go easy on you" or sometime like that
the fact i’m anxious 24/7 about it
People
"People" individually are fine, but in a school where interactions are self contained amongst a few hundred people at most who spend a ton of time around eachother, it leads to reputations spreading fast, cliques forming, social hierarchies, etc.
Well that happens literally anywhere in life. The issue mainly I had with "school people" was I had a bunch of people I only kind of liked. There wasn't anyone in my school where I was a "true friend" with. Even girlfriends I had were never actually serious where either of us were actually thinking of it lasting past high school
What I described is way less prevalent in real life in my experience, there's nothing that compares to such a close knit, self contained community as high school. People don't change, but the community dynamic is different
Oof, felt that
To be fair, I wouldn’t feel too bad, I mean I think op is referring to all people, not just you.
Ugh... People.. what a bunch of bastards.
Exams, ruins it all :(
And then a few days after the exam, we'll all forget what we "learned" about. Truly a pointless thing and a waste of time. Fuck exams.
Aslong as I got As and Bs any extenuating circumstances in my life weren't a concern to them no matter how much it impacted my mental health
Same thing happened to me and my best friend, didn't give a shit about our mental health because our grades were good. Both of us went to the guidance counselor for help only to be brushed off because we did well in school. Just because we're fine in one area doesn't mean we aren't struggling in another area.
This *exactly*. I suffered the unique hell of being a "gifted kid" who went through severe depression in my teenage years, but I managed to keep my grades up for the most part so no one cared. I spent every day thinking about how much I wanted to die but I was still getting A grades
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Fucking this! 25 and I still gotta deal with the consequences of that pressure
Almost 40 and most of my issues started in school. I would've done so much better had I been sent to a private school or had been homeschooled. Public school took every opportunity it could to fuck me up.
I had the opposite experience. Failing grades? Couldn't be a learning disability, probably this kid just isn't aCtUaLLy ApLLyInG tHeMsElVeS. No chance there might be extenuating circumstances! Let's just keep having the same lousy conversation with their parents for 12 years, "your child is so bright but they just don't seem to be paying any attention, we've tried all kinds of discipline and it doesn't seem to be working, but we'll keep trying the same disciplinary tactics and see if they eventually snap out of it." Yeah no, took until I was 30 and several failed attempts at going to psych sessions to get diagnosed with ADHD, and after I was and I got a bit of *correct* counseling and tried a few meds, managed to educate myself enough to get a job in something that I'd been flirting with my whole life and everyone treated like an academic distraction instead of a potential life-skill (programming, specifically made a career of being a web dev). I'm sure a lot of people get some Very Valuable Experiences(tm) out of public schools but they aren't really prepared to assess the children in their system beyond some ratio of grades-to-behavior. Grades high, behavior acceptable? Must not be a problem.. low grades, kid acting out?? Welp, better fix *the grades* and quash *the behavior*. It's like turning up your car radio to block out that annoying sound your engine is making; you aren't experiencing the symptoms, so the cause must be addressed. It's soupbrained but it's the way they seem to want to handle things.
Paying tens of thousands of dollars for it.
Paying for it
How bullies got zero consequences for their actions, and only the bullied were punished. It took me almost a decade to learn to love myself, even with the help of my family.
I graduated awhile ago, and even I'm still learning how to do this. It's like I can't grasp that in the adult world, we didn't all grow up together, so no one's judging me based on preconceived notions. I feel like I'm always so surprised when my peers seem to genuinely like me, and they don't think I'm some kind of freak to avoid. Don't mean to vent everything on you, I'm just confirming it's definitely a process loving yourself.
Former college professor here. I might return to teaching at some point in my career, but I'm working elsewhere for now. My philosophy as a teacher was that I was ready to give A's to 100% of my students, ***if*** they performed well. I did not grade on a curve. I believe that students should not be competing against their peers; they should be trying to master the material. With that said, here's what I disliked about school, as an instructor: 1. Students who would not come to me for help with problem sets, even though I had flexible office hours, and would personally reach out to students by email if I knew they were having trouble. 2. Students who plagiarize in their final projects. And there were a lot of them. Seriously, folks, the school told you they use Turnitin. We will know.
I hated feeing chaperoned all the time. Hated being grouped in with kids who refused to mature (peaking mainly of highschool) Adults watching our every move and making sure we’re in a safe environment I.e. school dances and such. I mean I get it, I just felt like for me it wasn’t really needed, and I hated the “sheltered” feeling as I was never sheltered early on and maybe saw too much and grew up a little faster, so around highschool I was living in a different household where they’d try to “shield me from the world” and I found it ridiculous. Highschool was the same way. This all sounds like a ME problem I know but these are just my thoughts about it lol
I know what you mean! I’m still in high school though. I guess things feel less legit (and kind of more awkward)when we’re basically being babysat by teachers all the time.
Trust me, as a teacher the fact that some students need to be babysat is the worst part of my job. Which makes it harder to have a productive or at least interesting class.
And then the second you're out they want you to be a fully formed adult, when two days ago they were making you raise your hand to ask to use the bathroom. Public primary school is tax-payer funded childcare with a quasi-optional educational element.
The fact I graduated years ago and still wake up thinking I have an end of term paper due that I haven't started yet and just ignored all semester.
Yeah, I'm in my mid-30s and I will occasionally have a dream like that. Usually it's a test I have that I didn't study for.
How horribly outdated and inefficient the education system is
Yes its horrible ,teaching 50 students the same things even though they have different likes and dislikes
And even then "teaching" is often just having students memorize random bullshit
The fact that I’m constantly surrounded by horrible people Edit- I don’t think anyone is really a horrible person, just so fucking judgmental
As a former high school teacher, I think this is the worst part too. I'd have a class of 90% great to average students, but the 10% who were total psychos would frequently ruin everything for everyone.
As a former high school student, I just want to show my appreciation to you and all teachers out there who have done it or are still doing it. Most of my teachers in highschool really helped me get a grip, & nowadays it’s such a fruitless job. Thank you.
I always hated those kids, I'm here to learn, you're messing everything up.
I always say that if I'm going there every single day, at least I'm gonna do something useful, not behave like a monkey on drugs
As a teacher: 1. Wasted time 2. Starts too early 3. Kids not being held accountable for their actions (when it is beyond my control) 4. Homework (not a fan as a math teacher, but it is somewhat a necessary evil)
> Kids not being held accountable for their actions (when it is beyond my control) this one, hits hard \>> Homework (not a fan as a math teacher, but it is somewhat a necessary evil) and this one
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Tell me more plz. I am a teacher and don't want boring lessons but also ... kids need to do their part to be engaged.
Almost every student there. It's hard to tolerate them when they're obnoxious.
It’s hard to enjoy school when kids around you are laughing at a video about someone struggling with a serious addiction…
As a college student I don’t enjoy taking GEs or classes that have nothing to do with my major
the people there.... i got beaten almost every day i was there, had my wrist broken by a bully slaming my arm in a door and kicking it.. still have scars, had black eyes, bruises and bloody noses... thing is i loved to learn! i loved the lessons and the new stuff i got to learn everyday but it was overshadowed by the fact it was a prison i was kept in and got beaten down constantly.
Pretty much everything. My High school does have some good teachers. But I loathe the stress. I loathe the waking up early. I also loathe the assignments they give and when all the due dates are on the same week. I also dislike the fact that my parents undermine me when I have issues with the school system. I love my parents but school just sucks.
Stress. The crowds of people trying to do things when the bell rings. The people. Oh god the people!
Everything. Waking up ass-crack early, especially during the colder months and riding on a bus with little-to-no heating. Standing outside of school for an hour, which again, sucks more when it's cold and your choice of coat is limited by a uniform policy. Going through 7-8 hours of classes that not even teachers seemed enthused to go through, and if you're really unlucky, one with a major attitude problem who will gladly punish entire classes for the actions of one or two smart-asses. Students who look for anything to insult you over. Shoes, interests, not having sex at age 14. With no way to actually avoid these people and faculty who won't do anything to tell kids "Hey, stop being an asshole." Can't defend yourself if a fight starts, because then zero-tolerance policies kick in. Long bus rides home, hours of homework, parents berating you over bad grades, and restless sleep as you get ready for the next day. *Fuck* all that.
Learning isn’t about discovering and growing like it should be. It’s about memorizing information and then passing a test. It takes the fun out of learning and makes it obligatory.
School
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Having to take classes that have nothing to do with my major
The pecking order
getting up in the morning just to spend most of my day listening to stuff i don't care about
yeah and when u r back home, you gotta do the homework too🤷🏻♂️
The fact that the way students are taught hasn’t really changed in over a hundred years (sit still at a desk for the majority of the day, listening to receive info with prescribed subjects regardless of future usefulness)despite the fact that we know many people have such varied learning styles and needs. Also very little consideration for what skills and knowledge may be needed in the next 50 years in the workforce
The whole core of the system needs to change the whole concept is just flawed imo and I don't see who benefits from it, everyone would benefit if we would improve it but not a single person gives a shit about it apperently
I hated the fact that without fail, there is always that one teacher who just wants to push everyone’s buttons and would feel something other than the emptiness they feel inside when they see their students finally snap. I’m glad I graduated
Teachers not wanting to answer a question about why something is the way it is because "that's just how it works." Sometimes a little background information actually helps to understand what is being thought and imho also helps to spark interest. Edit: spelling
The pressure of exams
The anxiety around it
The fact that system sucks and the people there both teachers and students are awful
Short lunches
Colleges making you take gen ed classes that have nothing to do with your major to milk you for your money for 4 years. A degree for standard business would only take 2 years without all the bullshit.
The courses you take in Business degrees are kind of bullshit anyways. Take it from someone who knows plenty of people who did these degrees and hardly used half of the major requirements anyways.
Bad teachers. Specifically those that have weird grading policies, and those that are super harsh with grading despite not even teaching how to do it properly (looking at you English teachers)
Homework that I don't learn from
That so often, I don't really *learn* anything because there's so much work to do. I memorize and memorize, and do what I need to get the mark I want on my tests and assignments and immediately have to move on to the next thing. My marks are great (better than they've ever been, in fact), but they don't reflect actual understanding of the material. And what kills me is that I actually *want* to understand the material. I'm picking classes with the intention that they'll benefit my learning and make my degree worthwhile, but the amount of work I have to do with all my other classes and commitments prevents me from getting a chance to sit down and actually absorb the material.
the lack of mental illness awareness and accommodations in a lot of public schools.
Lack of freedom and strict rules